The Sad & Tragic Case of Ethel Major
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Today we are looking at the 1930's case of the case of Ethel Major. A lady from the English County of Lincolnshire.
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It's very interesting that people look at the past and think it was a simpler time. There's never been a simpler time in human history.
Smoked Yank: True dat, man. 🤜🏿
Well I suppose it depends on what one defines as simple, eye of the beholder and all that
It's easier, I think, for people to romanticise times they didn't live through.
There was a lot that was bad back then. There was the horror of what Arthur must have gone through in World War I and, in peacetime, there were problems of getting by financially, paying for health care, etc.
Unless she had supportive parents, as Ethel did, life was impossible for a woman who had a baby without a man to support her. Who would care for the baby while she was at work? Even after the UK's welfare state was set up to give comprehensive care to all, "unmarried mothers" and their babies were excluded. The stigma was also a problem and pretending the baby son or daughter was a sibling was one subterfuge. It was certainly not a simpler time for these unfortunates.
Add to that the shame and legal problems around divorce. We had a divorce in the family in the late 1940s and my grandmother spoke of the disgrace of it with distress years later. Divorce was such a serious matter that it was dealt with by the most senior civil court in Scotland and I wonder what it cost. No, not a simpler time!
I partly agree. I remember in the '80s when metal detectors began going up in schools. Also, there was a time when premarital sex was frowned upon, so being pregnant and unmarried was a very big deal (although the men who impregnated these women were not held in scorn). Women, and I assume a few men, waited until marriage, unlike now where it's common/normal to live together without marriage and also have many sex partners, beginning at a young age.
Fifty years ago, there weren't almost daily mass shootings in the US, or so many individuals shooting and killing each other daily. Nudity on TV didn't exists. In some areas, people didn't lock their doors. Politicians were afraid of being caught lying.
Crime, lawlessness, immorality are on the rise worldwide.
So in a way we used to live in simpler time, but we also had slavery, and in recent history the world wars, gangland crimes during prohibition and many years of child sexual abuse by priests, even while society had strict moral standards.
"I wouldn't be surprised if she isn't poisoning with these Corned Beef Sandwiches. "
---"But, man I do love Corned Beef Sandwiches. " keeps eating them.
Lol
U corned beef goofball ! 😅
As the husband threw out a sandwich at work and mentioned 'that woman is trying to poison me' to a co-worker, I would suspect Fair Play to be the co-worker. Stay safe.🤗
Great point
@@madmoiselle007 I agree! I still say it was self defense or it could be suicide 🤣
I was thinking that.
@@englishcountrylife3805 if we keep talking about it, we'll figure it out 🤣
I’m thinking it was a neighbor because the writer knew about the dog.
I discovered about Ethel Major while doing my family history. Her son married a female relation on my mums side, so this video is very interesting to me. Thank you for making this video.
Thank you for sharing!!!🙏😷
A colab with The Crime Reel? Perfect, love ya both!
oh same! I don't miss an episode of either channel!
Shut it
Two great channels and narrators who support each other in putting out great videos for us😄❤
Thank you both🤗
Amend the abbreviation to collab, or you'll be getting a visit from Rentokil.
Video should be called "The sad and tragic case of Arthur Major". Ethel was a murderer plain and simple
Well she was certainly plain.
Poor man died of Ethelepsy.
@@wrmacdonald9383 I see what you did there.
If he truly was as abusive as she claimed, then it was a murder, but not a crime.
agreed. Evil little witch.
The stigma of unmarried mothers is still rife in places. My mom had real problems, it was only with the support of our local priest that she got me christened. Men don't get that stigma though...
Stories like this show we've come quite far, but there is still a way to go.
Thanks for another great video!
I got some elders on my Rez listening to both you and the crime reel , they love you both , as do I ... A’HO ❤️
That’s cool
Cool! Both of these are very good and well researched. Nice that you are sharing.Have you checked out Kirsty Skye yet? She does a lot of interesting cases including a series called stolen sisters which specificly highlight missing indigenous women.
@@hondoklaatu1904 thank you for sharing the info. I will check it out
“Wasn’t me, I didn’t poison my husband with strychnine 😇 “
“What? Nobody said anything about strychnine 🧐 “
“Oops 🙊
🤦🏾♀️Of all of the things she could have accidentally said😂Big Oops!
Yep forensically unaware of the mouth there!
I made a mistake ... The quiet part out loud ... Oh dear ... 🤭
🤣🤣🤣
😂🤣😂
Good morning, everyone. I've always thought that murder by poisoning is particularly cruel and callous. Shooting, stabbing, strangling, etc, is hard work but is over fairly quickly. Poison enables the killer to sit back and watch. Evil asf.
Was glad to get the notification and was pleasantly surprised to hear a collab featuring The Crime Reel, one of my very favourite true crime channels. Thanks very much for the upload, BC! Stay safe out there.
But the question is whether the poisoner chooses the method for the reason you describe, or because they think it would be harder for 1. experts to know it was homicide and not natural causes, and 2. knowing if the homicide was suicide or murder, and 3. if murder, who poisoned them. Also, people tend to think murder (of any kind) will be quicker an easier than reality, because of how TV and movies make it look. And fictional portrayals certainly don't give the milligrams-per-pound of body weight formula needed for any given poison to cause a human body to fully die. Almost all poisoning accounts I've heard stories about (dozens if not hundreds) required repeated poisonings. I don't think that was because the killer enjoyed watching the slow process; if anything, it just gave the victim a better chance of survival and the killer being caught, with repeat trips to the hospital, more and more experts considering what's wrong with the patient, etc. In short, there might be SOME poisoners who choose it for the evil enjoyment, but most are just ignorant.
Shooting is not hard work at all! It’s just that poisoning is easier to camouflage. It makes you wonder how many murders may have gone undetected simply because no one suspected an unhappy spouse. 🤔
@@riggs20 There's no way to know the number of undetected homicidal poisonings, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was half (or more) of all poisonings. I just looked this up: Rates of deaths being autopsied has been in free-fall for decades. In 1970 as many as 60% of people who died without an obvious cause like traumatic injury were autopsied. Now it's under 10%!!! And why? Because there are only about 500 full-time forensic pathologists IN. THE. WHOLE. COUNTRY. They are apparently not very well paid, and a lot of people who think they want to do it burn out quickly, with so much exposure to very depressing realities, and finding themselves in the middle of very contentious court cases with news coverage, getting death threats and all.
Call this off-topic, but it's also a very cruel way to rid a place of rodents. And stupid, because when they start feeling sick they tend to crawl into some tight space to be undisturbed by the others, and die where they can't be reached without tearing up the structure, but they certainly can be SMELLED, and then you're attracting insects.
@@audreymuzingo933 I’m reading your responses and am not sure if I should be impressed with or worried by the amount of thought you’ve put into this! 😄
At first, I felt somewhat sorry for Ethel, but when they said that she had poisoned the dog, I lost all sympathy.
Delilah Hart SAME!!
I agree, to purposely kill the innocent dog was disgusting. I’m grateful that animal abuse is now a felony
So... It's ok to bump off the old man but not the dog? In for a penny...
@@suemcgregor9248 It's not okay to bump off anyone. However, animals are the most innocent and vulnerable beings, and it's beyond tragic how they often fall victims to evil people.
Y’all are absurd. The dog ate the leftover sandwich that she poisoned her husband with. She didn’t poison the dog on purpose like she did her husband. Silly people.
Brief Case and Crime Reel are two of my favourite channels 👍💜👏
I know that "outhouse" can mean any building outside of the house, but here in the USA, "outhouse" is usually used for an outdoor privy. I'm sure you can imagine the image that my mind first conjured when Ethel claimed she and her son slept in an outhouse.
@@pinklady3885 Yes my nans outside toilet in the UK was always freezing lol... It was common for most houses to only have an outside toilet years ago until indoor plumbing was available 😀
@@pinklady3885 could even be a coal shed.
@@ann-mariepaliukenas19 My nans was a combined coal shed and toilet. Those were the days 😆
@@witchypoo3535 sounds similar to one on my parents old garden one side of the brick outhouse was the toilet the other side the coal house.
I was thinking the same thing Ewww! I’ve always heard auxiliary buildings that weren’t toilets called “out buildings”. It’s fun learning how terms are different the world over. 🙂
Love the collab, I love that Brief Case is supporting the other creators in the community.
Thankyou
These poisoning cases that did get resolved always makes me wonder how many were passed off as a natural death.
I think are were MANY and it still goes on today
Women got away with A LOT of terrible things back then
Probably quite a lot, and it made it more difficult to catch new cases. Because doctors would start to expect death like that as natural, citing previous cases as evidence (that were really poisoned).
Oh tons… arsenic was the poison to use to kill people back then. People got away with it all the time
Morning Briefcase 💼 and CRIME FAMILY! I love the Crime Reel too !💕
@Beyond The Pale Hey there 🤗
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Hiya, hope you're well and having a good day Xxx
Wow! Such a good case and close to home for me, i was born and live in Lincoln and know Horncastle extremely well. It’s funny how you never imagine cases like this to have happened in such a rural, sleepy location. Excellent collab, thank you to all involved.
I’m near them too just outside Spilsby. Seems strange to talk about places I’ve been 😵💫
@@sandrabourne9785 I know! Right? So weird! But it does bring it a lot closer to home and imagine yourself walking those same streets x
Love Lincolnshire I now live in Leeds but use to live at Toynton St Peters 40yrs ago you never expect things like that to happen there
Wow if the dog had not died she most likely would've got away with murder.. Another good one BC and thank you CR ☺
time to sit back, as Brief Case takes us to 20th Century England
Brief Case are there any cases of
British men married to black
Women in the 1800s who murdered
Their wives? I would love to hear
Cases about that.
Time 7:53AM Mon 6/28/21
Good Morning! Thank you Brief Case and The Crime Reel for today’s episode. Have a wonderful Monday.
What a sad story all round. Thanks to Brief Case and The Crime Reel for another great episode!
☠️😱😱. Poisoning corned beef sandwiches? That is absolute sacrilege!
Lol😁
I think that's why they hung her ?
@@tommymorgan4677 yes certainly 😁
I've always thought corned beef was a little over rated myself. I much prefer mutton or lamb. Strychnine sandwiches are definately off the menu though.
@@perrydowd9285 lol i'm veggie 😄
Hey! A collab by 2 of my favorite channels! Hope you two gentlemen are doing well! 🌞❤
The two top channels together, in one place!
You're the best!
You're the best, too!
Oh that was nice surprise!! Having our Crimey pop up on here, love how supportive you are of each other. :) Oh dear a loveless marriage but maybe not best to tell your GP you want to do your hubby in. Personally being a lifelong vegetarian, Ive never had a corned beef sandwich but have been told they are disgusting. Poor dog, dying in agony - that was so unnecessary Ethel!
😂. If enough of the meat is put on the bread, the fat alone can kill you.
Actually Corned Beef and Beefvare delicious.
Done and done.
Poor little dog!
What about the man?
@@douglasbubbletrousers4763 we don't care about the man!
@@321scully That’s honestly kind of disturbing
@@douglasbubbletrousers4763 Nah, most dogs are nicer than most people.
I love hearing these old cases. It's amazing how some of these were solved. And how different the death penalty is carried out, how quickly it is cared out.
I’m on vacation AND I get a brief case & crime reel collaboration!? I must’ve done something right in this life. Nice video.
My vacation starts next week....I'll be hanging out at White Lake in NC and listening to as many of these as I can find. And drinking.
@@melfreemans
So great! I’m from the mountains of NC on vacation in central Florida.
@@aaronburratwood.6957 I love our mountains! We go to Leatherwood up in Ferguson a lot.
How wonderful!
Her mistake was killing the dog. We never forgive killing the dog! :D
@Flutterby So true! I can't have sympathy for anyone who kills a pet! Horrific!
A dog was killed? I can't watch this one 😢
@@BacktheBlue60 What about ones that have killed children? I can’t watch those ones.
@@kerrynicholls6683 sadly people are living their pets more than their relatives nowadays
She did not kill the dog
You don't kill the dog. You never kill the dog.
Damn right, leave the dog alone
Juries will instantly hate you just that much more.
@@OregonSingles exactly, the dog is the dog. Your neighbours probably won't care about your dead husband, but they will care about the dog.
Indeed. Just ask John Wick.
Smh- lies- this neighbor’s dog was all over- including in the victims property. Still sad about both dogs- her husband and the neighbor’s.
After the first sandwich I’d make my own
Every single time I'm about to sleep you keep me up lol
Awww two of my favorite channels. This is the crossover of the century!
Good on the Home Secretary and the Judge sticking to their decision to get justice for the husband
Why can't I feel sorry for her, because this was premeditated and planned she knew what she was doing.
Love both Brief Case and The Crime Reel.
Love that they cover older stories that i have never heard of.
Love the posts of crimes most of us had never heard of before now.
As usual, a captivating travel back in time, and so well told I don't miss a single word though my langage is not English
No “Psssst”?! 😉 Thank you, both, for this collaboration. 😊
Hey, I almost forgot it's Monday! I mean, Briefcase day.
Brief Case and the Crime Reel are the two channels I listen to every week. I love each of their different approaches to their narrations. Thank you guys!
Ah nothing beats the sound of A Brief Case Narration in the morning~
No, nothing does. But this isn't him
People like to comment before watching the video because they get to feel like they got there first.
@@mikesanders8621 Usually I like the simple things in life, but being early to a YT video--no
What a great presentation! Just A mean woman, a bad marriage and a sad adult victim. No child abused....just a mean unbalanced vengeful woman. Thank you.
Wow! I just got this notification of a brand new Brief Case! Thanks, BC!!
Another well researched case thank you
Thanks for watching :)
"Fair Play" could have been:
1) The coworker who heard Arthur say his wife was probably trying to kill him
2) The dead dog's owner who might have just guessed something was funky/ it wasn't a coincidence that his dog and the husband died
3) Elsie (the witness) probably put 2 and 2 together that Ethel literally killed 2 birds with one stone so to speak- 1st the husband dies under mysterious circumstances and so does the dog that Ethel disliked...Who she just so happened to give her husband's left overs to (a crime which in and of it's self is cruel too)
4) Any one of the many neighbors that she alienated might have just put it out there and poof turns out they were right 🤷🏼♀️
Pssst... Wait no "Pssst"?! That's a Crime (for Reel). 😉
That was very interesting and very well narrated. I’ve never heard of this case before. Thank you.
I think "fair play" was the neighbour accused of writing the letters to Mr.Major
I picture Brief Case and The Crime Reel spending their weekends trying to one up each other on murder stories while sitting in front of a fireplace wearing satin robes and smoking pipes.
have you got a secret cctv camera set up WWH? that is exactly what happens ;-)
Do they wear deer stalker hats as well? 🙄
With a brandy…
Aww was totally expecting a psst at end (followers of TCR know what I'm talking bout)
Good job guys! Love both of your channels so this is one excellent way to start a Monday
Thank you thank you!!
One of my favs..thanks for all the details..you can tell a lot of work went into this and I love the time it was set in.
her ghost is said to haunt hull prison even to this day.
Really? Oooh
😢😢
Her soul probably trapped..Smh Sad … she knew what she did especially the dog!
Yes! Our beloved Crimey and Brief💼 collaborating.. what a treat! 👍 (What a fascinating story.. Ethel was so close to getting away with it!)
Well narrated Crime Reel, will definitely look up your channel!
Hello to Briefcase and Crimey and all the fans. So happy to hear my favorites together ❤ Another excellent story.
Good evening everyone CR and BC 😊🖐🌷 It was raining madly since yesterday evening and it is STILL raining/drizzling now for me here. It's lovely rainy day/evening ❤😊
@Beyond The Pale Hi! Hi! So nice to see you here today 😁🌷
Ok my i must say this was so well written. You really took me there; being a teenager when phones and cars were so new
Hey BC & Crimey...Double treat!!!Ritzi & I send Love 💘 💕❤ & Cheer from Texas
i watch both of your channels every time you make new shows ; you are both truly top notch !
Thanks
This is the best collaboration since Tom and Jerry. I'm subscribed to both channels and love the content both channels present. Let the Narration commence 💯😎
I love Tom & Jerry :)
Last time I was this early, nobody had been murdered yet.
That is really funny! I'm usually so late the town where the murder occurred has moved on.
Like Ron Weasley and Ethel Major, I never liked corned beef either. 🤭
Too salty!
Doesn't even look appealing!! I've never even tried it LOL.
I love it mama put it in cabbage
Thank you, Crime Reel, for clearly narrating this fascinating case. I'm looking forward to checking out your channel.
I live for Monday mornings!!! Love this channel!! Very interesting to learn about early history and learn that people early on were just as evil than, maybe even a little more than now, back in the early centuries. Much love to both channels. ❤️
Oh great another channel to follow @ The Crime Reel. Fantastic story telling. Thank you Brief Case 💜 for the collaboration
woohoo its Crimie. Nice to hear you on here
I follow that woohoo.... for crimey.
Psst 😁👍👍👍
Good job Crime Reel!
Thank you.
This was an engrossing story, and I was hanging on every word, imagining each scene, and scrutinizing the pictures.
Great writing and editing BC!
Thank you!
Thankyou
If divorce was so unthinkable, I wonder why she didn't take herself and her children to live in another town. She could have gotten an order of support as well as held a job on her own.
Because back then separation (or whatever the step before divorce’s called), or anything remotely similar, not only didn’t legally exist but it wasn’t even dreamed of let alone considered - how could it have when divorce was already nearly impossible and frowned upon (to put it lightly)? Husbands and wives either stayed together or got divorced with the consequent huge scandal and ruin of reputation or, most extreme solution, the wife (or husband) ran away disappearing and abandoning the family.
@@LucienSabre I'm not sure you're entirely right, Lucien. I think if things became impossible, for example due to violence, some wives took the children and went to a relative. I remember in the 1950s there was a phrase "home to mother" referring to this. Of course, there might be nowhere for a battered wife to go with her children. Maybe she could leave them in an orphanage but I suppose the husband could take them from there.
I don't know what the position would have been about a wife who had left with the children getting a court order from the magistrates for child maintenance. I should think the courts would have been very ready to insist a husband who had deserted his wife and children pay maintenance, but if the wife left ...?
@@judithm375 Wives at that time didn’t even dream of getting a court order….because that kind of laws didn’t exist until the late 1950s or 1960s if not later (before that all divorce laws were made to favor/advantage and prioritize the man’s side) - and even then women who did that got their reputation tarnished if not ruined. And women who ran to their relatives/parents/family had no laws or anything else protecting them when the husband came to take them back. Women have had no law granting them protection and some basic rights in case of divorce (and not only in that case) until after the first half of the 20th century.
@@LucienSabre correct. They had no property rights, nor rights to their own children. Also, let’s not forget the women who were institutionalized in lieu of divorce. To be clear, murder is wrong and should be punished. However, education on circumstances is beneficial.
Not back then divorce was viewed as shameful and the fault of the woman no matter the circumstances she would have been better off killing her children and herself if she had of gotten divorced.
Thanks BC & CR!! Awesome collaboration!! 💙💙
I absolutely love when 2 of my faves get together!
Good thing the owner of the dog was suspicious enough of her/had their doubts about her, rip to the hero pup ;(
Hello CR & BC!! I love both your channels so much, I've been subbed for over two years! TY again, CR, for the excellent narration (and also for featuring our lovely cats on "petty Crime" last year). You are both extremely talented researchers and presenters - and I say that as an academic who has done both research and lectures! You both have that 'it' factor and it's a firm belief that you'll both go on to do great things in the future. God Bless you both and thank you for all your hard work!
Thankyou so much
Thanx, BC! Love your channel - especially when you do the 17 and 1800’s!
18th Century case coming soon :)
@@BriefCaseOfficial Hooray! Thank you for your personal response! 🥰
I'd guess "Fair Play" was the work colleague who was with him the first time he got dodgy sarnies?
Had to read that several times
@@dilenaking4746 LOL! I’m still not sure what dodgy sarnies are, but they sound British. 😉
@@riggs20 Lol
Dodgey = questionable
Samies = sandwiches
;) totally made my day
Dodgy Sammies is the name of my Acoustic Punk Rock band.
@@dilenaking4746 That makes much more sense! 😄
I love the narrator’s voice in this brief case! It’s very soothing but also expressive.
Oh my, my two favourites together! Cheers BC & CR! Ethel should have just stayed away from her husband if it was truly that bad. She had her father’s home to go to. Very awful way to go.
Good story, love it when you do collabs you always pick great channels to work with.
Have a great week, BC!
Briefcase, this was a great story, Arthur Major's death really sadden me. From his photograph, he seemed like a hard working, good hearted man, who did not deserve this, at all. Justice was served, but a good man and father is gone. What happens to their children, in cases like this? I hope they're not in foster care. I will research and see what I can uncover.. Why can't people just leave, or learn to forgive, and forget, continue for the sake of your two children.. Why always murder?
The Crime Reel, your name sounds a bit familiar, probably heard a couple of stories. I do apologize for not subscribing, for the name itself, is definitely up my alley.. But I can assure you sir, that after supper; about 6pm, I will be there tonight.
Thank you sir for assisting our beloved Briefcase.💼
Brief case and crime reel 2 of my favourite channels on You Tube excellent research and narration BRILLIANT
Dream collab 🤩
Yay! Crimey and Brief Case are my favorites! Cool that you're working together.
Another great episode🙏
Thanks
@@BriefCaseOfficial you're very welcome,keep up the good work and thanks for keeping us entertained in these unusual times.
I love these pictures and these cases. they really remind you of how different this society is.... even if it suffers the same problems.
Have to cover the dogs' ears for this one!
Love a two-piece special! Good to hear from you both!!!
Good Morning Brief Case.
What a very interesting story. Thank you Brief Case and crime reel.
It's always so sad never mind which case😔
Two of the best channels (The Crime Reel & Brief Case) working together to bring us another fascinating yet heartbreaking story. Thank you.
Well done.
O my Crime Reel & Brief Case in one ! My morning coffee never tasted so good! Thank y’all for the story .
Would have been better they'd took the shame of a divorce...
Yay!! Every time one of my fave channel does a collaboration I end up with even more fabulous content to watch!!
Poor dog, why kill that poor dog?! If you are so cold blooded to abuse and animal. You are capable of much worse. Mercy!!! You killed your husband so you should die. Good one. Thanks BC for bringing in CR. Good job CR. Stay up everybody. ✌🏼BC and thanks CR.
Thanks for this story. The woman could not get a reprieve, as the murder was clearly pre-meditated. Such a sorry tale.
Divorce should have been allowed throughout time without repercussions or shame. I believe a lot of murders would have been prevented.
A lot of traumatic childhoods would've been prevented too.
@@dbzgal04 flippant divorce is also the cause of alot of childhood trauma and murder. Like it or not but the step father/boyfriend is the most likely person to kill, abuse or molest a child, followed by step mother/ girlfriend.
Notice I said flippant divorce, no one sane would advocate staying with an abuser, addict or financial derelict.
@@evil1by1 If anything, that should discourage single parents from remarrying, not discourage divorce.
What a tragic story. If we weren't so judgmental...! It seems Ethel Brown's issues stemmed from having to give up her daughter and all the gossip that followed her from pregnancy to the gallows. Nevertheless, her husband did not deserve to be murdered! What a tragic and cautionary tale. I hope the children were able to prevail.
As for Brief Case and Crime Reel... FANTASTIC collaboration! I am a subbie on many channels but only consistently watch a few... Crime Reel and Brief Case are top of that list! Thanks for the surprise! Happy Monday! :) Good-bye! Psst... looking forward to our Crime Reel episode later this week. :) Good-bye!
There's a Canadian story that might be of interest. Jennifer Pan...
Thanks, I know the case and will read up on it again
Or...or... Karla holmolka and Paul Bernardo?...
We love it when our favorites work together!!😀