Ford Mustang Dark Horse is INSANELY GOOD! // Nürburgring
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Disclaimer: the actions performed in this video are executed by professionals or individuals that consider themselves professional on a closed circuit within the local regulations.
00:00 Intro/Specs
03:53 First Lap
12:14 Lap 2
20:58 Thoughts - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Keep in mind this is the least track-capable version of the Dark Horse as well. Unfortunelty the EU cars dont get the handling pack (due to EU pedestrian protection regs) which having driven both, makes a huge difference- The HP cars get better aero, more negative camber, 305/315 width Trofeo RS tires, different chassis tuning for mag ride..etc. The brakes are really amazing. Glad you enjoyed it!
Uff! Sad yeah
luckily, you don't have to buy the EU version. just buy US version and import it to Europe. several people have already done this!
@@justrandomstuff84 But you still have to homologate it? And the cost increase is spectacular... 😭😭
@@justrandomstuff84 Just buy some wider wheels and some Cup 2's.
@@mgcharoudin We will be bringing handling packs in as a retrofit :) soon enough adds around 12-14k we think
That rearview camera view is trippy. Thought that AMG was trying to squeeze around you on the outside.
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I want to see Misha drive the GTD next
Me too! Can't believe Ford made a Diesel Mustang. The "D" in GTD stands for Diesel.
@@electrikoptik lol rage bait
@@electrikoptik 🤣🤣
When I first heard it, I was like 2.0tdi in a mustang? Then I found out they are just ignorant to German nomenclature of cars.
@@electrikoptik I hear they will soon release a racyer version, the Sport Tourismo Diesel (STD).
Everything he says the car needs (wider, stickier tires and more aero) is available with the handling package. This is just a base darkhorse.
We don't get it in Europe :(
Sadly, you can't get those in the eu, you can import them, but the amount of extra costs will outweigh doing it yourself😢
Including the trofeo r tires.
@@k20ee96 Thanks to our idologic politicians :(.
In Europe we can provide the Steeda Q767 Dark Horse for people wanting more than base performance.
Rear facing cam as a "review mirror" like video games is 👌👌👌 great idea
It should be mirrored. As it was, it was just a reverse view.
Mirrored mirror, that's an interesting concept
Except it’s backwards which freaked me out when that Mercedes passed
Rearview you mean? And yeah for game it would make sense to mirror, not sure how well it would work in a video like this
YES
That temp guage didn't even move that's impressive. Love these dark horses. Built very well and extremely capable for a price a lot lower than I expected.
That's because it's a Ford guage. They either show good, or not good. There is no middle ground.
Ford guages have been like that since the 80s
I have owned many Fords. They were all the same.
Nah, it costs too much.. it's over $70k in the US. That doesn't even include the race seats.
The 6th gen SS 1LE Camaro is still better. For the DH price you can get the Camaro ZL1 and blow the doors off the DH
@@johnnyturbo8460 this car isnt over 70k its about 61k this is a base dark horse not a HP car.
Misha solo laps are the best that way the comment section doesn't cry about how they think the passengers should act in their own car during a lap 😂
Agreed 😆
nah man the ghost is way too quiet
Lmao spot on 😆👍
True, it is another point of view and Misha can be a little more focused (apart from the weight).
Some of them are goofy, you can’t disagree 😂
It sucks you’ll can’t receive the dark horse with the handling package…..
I would guess it already comes with it?
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@@kaankuruuzumcu3867
It doesn’t. Less power too
@@kaankuruuzumcu3867not in Europe unfortunately
That’s the EU for you!
I really love the new camera setup, it's like looking in the rearview mirror. Perfect!👌
Unfortunately it isn't like looking in the mirror, because the rear view is not mirrored as it should be. When he passes a car it should be visible on the right, but it's on the left. It should be an easy fix with software, but maybe he doesn't have time to fix it. Or his editor doesn't know how.
@@mediocreman2 I did it in the past and too many comments about not understanding the camera
It’s fine how it is now
@@mgcharoudini miss pedal box, if is a manual car pedalbox is always really good as I can see better all of your inputs at the same time
As a us citizen who has always loved European autos due to handling, and Japanese cars for reliability I gotta say I’ve been impressed with what my countrymen (or at least in badge name) have been producing in the c8 and the dark horse, maybe I need to connect with some relatives who work, or worked at Gm and ford for that discount 😊
And the Cadillac Blackwings and Camaro SS 1LE, etc...so many good options.
american cars can handle good, and be reliable doing so, people just choose to put the economy cars and post 2015 trucks as the face of reliability of american manufacturers. european manufacturers are all up in the track game since its their #1 marketing tool.
As a german I think that the US cars are actually really great. Just look at the Corvette as well. It's a superb package to be honest. Nowadays there are almost no bad cars left anymore. What's missing is a new Gen Lancer EVO and WRX STI.
Mustangs are just getting better and better. The new brakes on the S650 are the real big step forward with the car.... As Misha just found out!
It's always funny to see the random Mustang hatred from young dudes on the internet, yet when a professional actually drives one they have nothing but praise.
No. This car was perfected in the GT350. I guarantee you 90% of the parts in the dark horse were developed in the GT350. Misinformation like all the comments on this page. Europeans stay home when it comes to American cars lmao
@@Resch72113 The brakes are the big step forward and they are not from the GT350.
Brakes are smaller than gt350 and r and car weighs more. @@SoundBoy808
I can NOT wait to see you behind the wheel of a GTD! 👌🏼🔥
Love it, wish it was the handling pack with the better tires and suspension. I noticed you were shifting around 7000-7200rpm where I believe the redline is 7500. The engine could easily go to 8000rpm mechanically…once tuning is unlocked.
Crazy how much of a difference turning off traction control made. Looked like you were driving much more freely
6:00 the way that AMG just finally disappeared
Imagine Misha tried the Dark Horse with Handling Pack, or the GTD! Because those should be even better!
Or a GT350 with Cup 2's. Much better than the dark horse and 8 years older. This car is old tech. Like the 370z to the 350z nismo. He's only driven the GT350 on shit tires
@@Resch72113 Would be nice to have GT350R, which has even more goodies than GT350, no?
I remember Dark Horse supposed to be a Bullitt successor, and Bullitt itself is a watered down GT350 (have some good bits but not as good).
@@RDSAlphard 350R only advantage is the carbon wheels. I just bought a set for my 350 and saved $20k on an R lol
actually a little bit more carbon panels and front spliter as well for GT350R compared to GT350, keep on building
In the US we can just order the Whipple 3.0 supercharger and have the dealer install with warranty. Then add tires ,brakes and suspension . I think its 804 hp .
P.s. go imsa!
Seems like it's select dealers willing to do that. They need to add a factory order item for the Whipple and let's remove the dealership.
My first car was a 64 1/2 Mustang that my Dad gave me. I've been in love with them ever since. It's amazing to see how far they have come and great seeing them get some love on the Nurburgring.
Nice, always cool to see some Merica! on this channel.
RAAAHHHH 🦅🦃
Unbelievably smooth !!! It's like it's glued to the track !!
where I live (slovakia) they ask appr. €75k for the dark horse. the only upgrade available are recaros. it seems handling pack will not be an option in whole EU
I have a ‘22 Mustang GT and I’m in love with it. I have so much enthusiasm for Mustangs now 😊
Wow he really went for it through the last few corners
he on xgames mode
My buddy fortunately let me drive his through the dragon and man they’ve stepped up the game on suspension. Has great sound and power from factory, not so great gas mileage lol.
The e46 in the back is lovely.
The Mustang is great, but god that green...
I was waiting for this, thank you Misha!
Crazy car. Great driving as always
This is what I call enthusiast car: manual with a handbrake and great driving dynamics :)
BMW should take notes ...
60k would be awesome, but for some of European countires the taxes will lift the price significantly :D
17:12 that's the fist time I've seen a Noble M12 GTO on the Ring
you should drive one Mischa
Sounds amazing for a 2024 car 👌
Inderdaad Robbin ! ❤
Not even close to how good the 5.2 voodo sounds.
@@ocavantThe Voodoo sounds amazing, but it also had serious problems that couldn't really be fixed without building an entirely new engine around a flat-plane crank. Also worth noting is most of its unique sound came from an exhaust manifold design that prioritized sound over outright performance, throwing equal length headers on it makes it sound more like any other flat-plane V8 and frees up a good chunk of power in the high RPM range.
@@griffinfaulkner3514that is pure misinformation you doorknob. You don't own a GT350 keep your mouth shut 😂
I like that you appreciate all brands and give honest reviews, and drive the hell out of them lol.
The new camera setup is cool! Its almost video game like the way the rearview camera is placed
Not sure where the guy got the price from but in Germany it starts at 72500 EUR, not 60k...
He probably meant the price without taxes and everything, so in the Netherlands it starts at about 144k😔
71300 in France + 60000 of mothefking emission taxes + 1575€ to do the registration so around 133k€...
@@fireman156insane
@@lordofkiwi5144emission tax aka “for the rich only tax” such Bs
@@lordofkiwi5144 60,000 Euros in France for emissions? How do you guys afford cars there?
Imagine the gtd. Got to be the most important track wepon on the list to drive
Rear-view cam is perfect
Your little hoot in the intro 😂😂👍. Fun.
Hope you get to drive the new GTD Mustang.
Installing a bigger ring and pinion would fix almost all the awkward torque power curve rpm issues with this track's layout. Second lap was so much smoother, can't say enough about how quickly Misha adapts to whatever he is piloting.
@Mg_Charoudin0 It would be an absolute pleasure to stop by for a conversation Misha, regrettably since I live in Alabama the logistics would be problematic, if I ever make it to Germany I'll stop by. Cheers
That 6th gear is useless tho
@@darylwayne5307Sweeeeeeeeeeeeet home Alabama
Been waiting on this video hopefully you will have a chance to drive one with the whipple soon 😊
I have been waiting for this one. 2015 marked the year the mustang lost the solid axle and this year marks the year it got seriously quick
Wait….GT350R wat? 😂
It has been seriously quick since the year 2016 with the GT350R.
You’re about 8 years late, 2007 Shelby Gt500.
@@notaperson5811 quick around corners 2015 ;-)
GT350 is still better
y cuando vas a probar el mustang GTD?
Misha I've seen your channel since years ago, i been wanting a video like this for a new tuned bmw 330i and a jaguar f type R, would be great to see you killing it!!🙌🏽
7:05 Bombastic side eye :D
Maybe it's the camera angle, but Misha looks like he's reaching back for the gear lever. I don't recall that being an issue with my old Steeda modified S550 Mustang. Also interesting to see him discover that you can't rely on low-down torque to pull it out of corners; it's often better to change down more often than you might expect (took Misha some time to realise that!). That motor pulls best at higher revs. Overall, the Dark Horse seems like it's a great car for the money!
I’ve been in a lot of cars and a lot of race cars as well. I have never felt better brakes in a vehicle than I felt in a dark horse. Very impressive
We did some ride alongs in a Dark Horse at Charlotte Motor Speedway. I was impressed!
that traction controlled was really holding your back XD
Hearing misha speaking french is the real golden moment of this video ❤
Nice drive Mustangs have come a long way, keep doing what you like Misha positive vibe to you. The rear view made me think that Porsche was passing you on the rightside grass
It sounds amazing too.
I died when he said he tried to scratch his head through the helmet 😂😂
Lovely mustang! Here in the Netherlands they start at a selling price 145.400euro (€80.084 BPM)(Taxes) To be honest thats just insane compared to pricing in other countries
Good to see you testing out the Dark Horse, I'm dying to see Ford put a GTD in your hands! 😂👍
Would like to see a comparison with the M2 on track. I’m driving a M240i regularly on the Ring and was thinking about the new M2 BUT that seems to be a real thing and way cheaper, not heavier, V8, good performance… why not ? 🤔
Check out Jason Camisa’s video vs the M4. Funny enough, the M4 was faster on the drag strip, the darkhorse was faster on track 😂
I would take M2 overall but I like dark horse also
@@fransarjYeah i kind of realized that about cars recently now its some of the european sports cars (mostly bmw) that are heavier and faster than american sports cars in a straight line and american cars like the mustang darkhorse have better braking and handling lol
Great video Misha, just to make you aware if you are not already. One of the cameras microphones is providing some static feedback, not easy to hear if you don't have volume up loudly, or headphones. Hope this helps!
As you said at 3:00 is what basically S650 Mustang GT4 is. Dark Horse with better brakes, suspension and more aero
I bought my dark horse last month. I love my car!
Misha, go buy one supercharge it, upgrade suspension, handling, tires and weight and you have yourself a homemade lite version of the GTD lol
So sad they don’t get handling back, was with Grassroots Motorsports when they tested a non-HP at the Firm in Florida’s and the tires hold the car back a good amount. The 305/315 as well as all the other changes makes a huge difference and you would’ve loved it! Hopefully they can order all that stuff and install it themselves. Can’t wait to see you try more American cars. Like a ZL1 1LE, Boss 302, GT500 or a Z/28 (would love to see first and last one fs)
Yeah I was able to go for a ride in the GTD version. It's insane. I'd love to see what you can do with it having ridden in it before.
I'm impressed that they're achieving these results with only 275 rear rubber staggered with 255 front. My grocery getter is on 255 rubber!
Handling package makes a huge difference. GT350 still faster around the track but the auto rev matching and reliability of the 5.0 vs the 5.2 voodoo makes up the differnce. I had fun with a dark horse with the 10 speed and unfortunately trans temperatures handicapped the car, but it was also 94 degrees. Rather have the tremec 6 speed personally :)
You need the whipple supercharger kit. from 430 whp to 800whp. Just need high octane fuel and octane booster.
Great car great video. Misha have u Steve and Jimmy any more races this year?
He’s gonna love the 10 speed
You missed to change the color on the dash for the revs and the shift lights, nice lap!
I haven't even got to watching the actual track footage yet as I'm only 3.21 mins into the video but seeing how impressed he already is makes my American ass say God Bless America and Congratulations to Ford!.
feet cam would be so awesome here!!!
Good to listen to a bald eagle flying through the nordschleife 🦅🇺🇸
Damn didn't realize these are up to 4000 lbs now. I guess modern tires are so good weight doesn't really matter any more though. Glad they still offer the 6MT.
The 3.55 rear gear in the auto would be better suited here. The optional 305 and 315 Trofeos would have made a huge difference as well. That's not even getting into all the standard track upgrades that most do. Considering what that car was shows just how much potential a lightly modified car really has.
More Dark Horse content please Misha.
60k Euro? Not a chance? Add all the eco taxes and closer to 80k probably
Unfortunately it costs as much as an m2, doesn't have the track pack and has 50hp less in Europe. I'd buy the us spec version with a track pack any day though.
I love the feet cam you can really see how talented you truly are lol 😂
Hell Yeahhh!!!!
If the darkhorse is already this good imagine when the Gtd hits the market
V-E-R-Y G-O-O-D W-O-R-K, no more words.
God dam, the simplest pony mustang darkhorse takes a dump all over, over hyped and ultra expensive uros on their own turf, amazing.
How does one get to drive incredible cars for a living everyday Misha? Absolute dream.
I wish you tested a F355 or a 512TR one day
dark horse with VA upgrades. nice.
Still haven't driven a gt500 on here
5:26 I just tripped HARD, if you invert the rear camera footage it would look exactly like a virtual rear view mirror.
When a car makes Misha sounds like Mickey Mouse, you know it's a great car! 😅😅
Car & Driver
“If you'd rather abdicate a degree of driving enjoyment, the 10-speed automatic ($1595) will certainly produce quicker acceleration and lap times. During our drive, the shift logic in Track mode was smart enough to keep the car in the correct gear for most corners, and it made satisfyingly quick gear changes at 7500 rpm (the manual has an annoying soft limiter 250 rpm earlier than the indicated redline).”
Nice 👍 next a boosted one with some aero
would be a good watch to see your owner ship experience of a mustang
The way the American muscles cars have transformed from tire burning wet noodles to proper track cars within the last 10 years is amazing.
The MagneRide won't be ready but the suspension upgrades will be a difference... as you know
Would be a great platform for an aero company to develop some components for 😈
Hmmmmmmmm
We still haven’t seen misha drive the gt500 cftp around the ring🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙌🙌🙌🙌
It's light-years ahead of this car, especially on Trofeo R's. So is the GT350. The dark horse is for fanboys who need a name to pay attention to performance
The rear cam is setup like Forza, I like it!
Seemed fantastic for a standard car Misha
They make a "Handling Package" with upgrades to tires, brakes, Magride, aero. The one you drove is basically a GT. Well, the handling package is as well, but a better version of the two.
As always gret lap Misha, I'm very impressed with the Dark Horse. Apparently in testing they found its braking was close to a GT3 Porsche
These brakes are what the GT350/GT500 came with 8 years ago. The dark horse is Ford's hype car for fanboys
This car would be glorious with a Vulcan Alpha aero kit
In the US the dark horse comes with 305 tires in the front and I believe rear. Strange, I think those are standard GT wheels but on a DH !?
Second best sounding 5.0 v8 in production.