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    The loyalty of the Alpha legion has been hotly debated for a long time, so lets forget about the debate and simply look at all the times the Alpha Legion did something loyal.
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  • @majorkill
    @majorkill  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +135

    Never gonna give up on your Alpha Legion, there's still time to become loyalist.
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    • @withlovefromlightindust591
      @withlovefromlightindust591 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Hello Majorkill,
      Would you please make some lore videos on the Imperial Truth, the Imperial Creed, the Ecclesiarchy, and the High Lords of Terra? Pretty please? Thank you.

    • @shmeeeeeep8797
      @shmeeeeeep8797 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      As Alpharius, I can confirm that my legion is the Alpha Legion… probably.

    • @shmeeeeeep8797
      @shmeeeeeep8797 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also a video about the different Inquisitor sects (Monodominants, Horusians, Thorians, Istvaanians) would be dope as hell.

    • @callumrichards7347
      @callumrichards7347 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My theory is this. Alpharius is dead, omegon leads the legion. Omegon knows the cabals 'prophecy' but chose option 3. He keeps chaos and the imperium at war, with no winner. The imperium lives. It does not die, it does not stay in stagnation exactly. He thinks there's no better way.

    • @Sciontabier
      @Sciontabier 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Please make a Nykona Sharrowkyn/Raven Guard inspired major mini.

  • @wolflordgio6320
    @wolflordgio6320 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +241

    Absolutely love Omegon out of the two twins his agents were the best imo “What does your Primarch expect from you?” “Everything”…

  • @AlphariusDominatus
    @AlphariusDominatus 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +178

    Alpharius was the first primarch either found or was never lost. He was the only Primarch that was pure and raised by The Emperor and Malcador.

    • @Nempo13
      @Nempo13 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      Don't forget, Alpharius and Omegon also swapped names. So Unless GW forgot about that, then it was Omegon that Dorn killed and Alpharius is still out there.

    • @AlphariusDominatus
      @AlphariusDominatus 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      @@Nempo13 yeah I know that. It seems nobody else grasps it. Alpharius was actually pivotal in giving Horus bad information about The Sol System's defensive strategy especially around Saturn which led to a massive delay on assaulting Terra. Bought enough time for The Ultramarines to spook Horus into going for the gambit letting the shields down. Saved The Imperium ultimately

    • @jiekimbuous
      @jiekimbuous 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What if it was all planned by Malcador and the Big E all along. The whole heresy,everything,what if they and Alpharius plotted this whole thing out in secret with Alpharius being the only one of the primarchs to know of the whole ordeal. Considering he was raised by the two it’s not entirely implausible. It explains why the alpha legion did random things to help the loyalists,they were a tool to ensure everything went to plan.

    • @Bobrob1597
      @Bobrob1597 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Nempo13I think it’s a bit more 4D chess than that. The Alpha Legion have been known to swap minds with other astarties to better sell lies. For instance what if one of them ran into Mangus and he did a little bit of mind probing. While Alpharius and Omegon can block their minds from being read, what if Mangus or Big Daddy E were able to get around it? A mind swap would be the secret within the secret further protecting their identity. So I truly believe that while Alpharius fell vs Dawn, it was only the body of Alpharius but the mind of Omegon. That’s why when Alpharius died, Omegon had a massive physic backlash from it. Not because his other half died, but because his original body died. Lastly they had the knowledge of the mind swap psychically removed from their memories. Within their minds is a code word that would unlock their memories, this code hasn’t been uttered in 10,000 years.

  • @camarofan2008
    @camarofan2008 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +205

    What if Alpharius/Omegon was/is an ascended primarch like Corvus Corax? When every Alpha Legion member claims to be Alpharius, what if that was true? He having some sorta of ability to hop from one body to another, so really is every member and not at the same time.

    • @sneakyarcher12
      @sneakyarcher12 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      Thats an interesting idea, its quite similar to a certain Mr The Infinite and i like the idea that the two primarchs are facing each other indirectly through influencing various warbands, but I see the Alpha Legion as being to divided for that to be the case.

    • @zaer-ezart
      @zaer-ezart 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      There's a new book that kinda disprove this theory. In the book it's stated that all of the alpha legion space marines that were present during the horus heresy have died therefore the new generation has no fucking idea what their goal is and the entire chapter is separated into smaller groups each going their own way doing their own thing and only a small fraction of them still does the whole "I'm alpharius" thing. The rest of them doesn't

    • @The_Keeper
      @The_Keeper 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@zaer-ezart
      Remember ALL lore in the 40k universe is told by an unreliable narrator...
      It could all very well just be GW messing with us, and trying to be sneaky about something.

    • @yoursafeplace8476
      @yoursafeplace8476 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@The_Keeper Nah bud, if the lion is old as fuck from still being subjected to time, even tho he was literally hidden in the rock and asleep all that time so he rlly shouldn't look as bad as he does, no one else is gonna look any better. Definitely not regular ol marines from the heresy era, without warp spaghetti happening.

    • @kaeamillin8379
      @kaeamillin8379 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@zaer-ezart Whats the book?

  • @ImperialHarbinger
    @ImperialHarbinger 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    After reading Praetorian of Dorn and the Alpharius novel, I feel like there are hints that the Alpharius found on Terra, and the Omegon found during the Rangdan Xenocides, swapped names after meeting each other. Some of the evidence to reach this conclusion involves the fact that in the Alpharius novel, Omegon was found with and used the Pale Spear, despite Alpharius himself usually being depicted as wielding this spear. Also, in the Horus Heresy book The Primarchs, in the novella The Serpent Beneath, "Omegon" inexplicably regards his own oddly private, completely unmarked suit of armor, which to me seems like a telling memento or reminder of the Ghost Legion (the Alpha Legion before they found Omegon).
    The more deceptive or Imperium-friendly acts usually attributed to Omegon seem to be more in line with how Alpharius claims he was taught on Terra in the Alpharius novel (taught how to fool others' senses of their perception of him, supposedly founded the blood games, etc.). In contrast, Alpharius outside of this novel seems more callous of human life, as well as more direct and confrontational, blowing up an actual settlement in the previously mentioned The Serpent Beneath novella, and actually coming to blows with Dorn and seemingly losing his cool; this behavior seems more in line with the Omegon from the Alpharius novel, who would not have received Malcador's training and is most likely the primarch who assaulted Horus' flagship.
    As confusing as this probably is, I think there's quite a bit of evidence to suggest they simply swapped their names after finding each other. This would mean that the "true" Alpharius, the one found on Terra, is the one still alive, under the guise of being Omegon.
    When it comes to the Alpha Legion, at least there's always more fuel to put on the speculation fire.

    • @holywaterbottle3175
      @holywaterbottle3175 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      He is pretending to pretend to be himself.
      What a baller

  • @MrFallenone
    @MrFallenone 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

    The Harrowmaster book was great at exploring the diverse factions inside the Hydra and why serving the Alpha Legion is the best pick for regular humans among all the legions.

    • @zigmus00A
      @zigmus00A 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      There are so many revelations to in that book I'm surprised more people aren't talking about it. Though that could simply be because of how recent it is

    • @joshley1320
      @joshley1320 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It wasn’t the that great the main character was insufferable at time

  • @bludhuuntr4946
    @bludhuuntr4946 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +928

    Alpharius would get his taste smacked out of his mouth if malcador found out through the warp that his son went against his other father. I could never see Alpharius being disloyal after being raised by malcador and big E personally, along with a competitive rivalry with his older brother Valdor. Also remember the great name swap.

    • @monkeykingyo6359
      @monkeykingyo6359 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

      I think it’s proves 2 things, 1.Horus musta been Super convincing with high high charisma, 2. Even primarchs can have brain fart moments, in alpharius’s case millennia long brain farts 😂

    • @bludhuuntr4946
      @bludhuuntr4946 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +89

      ​@@monkeykingyo6359omegon definitely took the traitor role. But I think he knew it would mean he died but allowed for the great game to take shape. Alpharius now is nowhere to be found. Hidden in plain sight possibly. Waiting for his time. The Emperor first son will have his redemption.

    • @AlphariusDominatus
      @AlphariusDominatus 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

      ​@@bludhuuntr4946Alpharius was never a traitor. Omegon was.. Dorn killed Omegon. The End

    • @ohamatchhams
      @ohamatchhams 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      @@bludhuuntr4946 Yeah, I personally would take the Live! from black library guy over Majorkill with this one, there's no way that OG Alpharius would betray The Emperor and Malcador's will like that, as he's supposed to be found before even Horus and Lion, although to simplify it further, only Alfa Legion's executives are loyalists (or at least pro-Emperor but anti-Imperium), meanwhile the legislatives, judicial bodies and the newer recruits are confused bunches that often drawn into the path of Chaos warband within Alfa Legion to the point their confusion breds civil war within their Legionary structures (despite it's being technically among the most intact Legion in 40K for 10.000 years after HH ended)

    • @michaelmastriano7566
      @michaelmastriano7566 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Malcador was the father who stepped up, not the stepfather

  • @rednemo9634
    @rednemo9634 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +89

    Ah yeah, the Schrödinger's Loyalty Legion.

  • @rebel1717
    @rebel1717 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    There was also a moment where a squad of guardsmen were fighting off a swarm of tyranids, but Alpha Legionnaires saved them at the last minute.

  • @zer0teku
    @zer0teku 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I think the Alpha Legion sees themselves as the necessary evil to the imperium to keep them engaged with and aware of the chaos. They seem to act as a "teach em the hard way or they won't learn it" type of training force

  • @daninaval9569
    @daninaval9569 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I believe that the one who killed Dorn was Omegon and Alpharius is following Malcador's orders before dying, acting loyally from the shadows while pretending to be traitors in order to carry out acts in favor of the emperor that the empire itself would classify as treason or heresy. Most alpha legionaries don't know why they fight, but the warband that keeps doing the "I am Alpharius" thing are actually led by Alpharius himself and when necessary the alpha legion will sacrifice its traitor warbands and They will unite under the command of Alpharius in favor of the emperor in the last and great battle against chaos

  • @richardthomas9497
    @richardthomas9497 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    I recommend a video about the Remembrancers during the latter part of the Great Crusade. About their duties and role as the ordinary human POV characters in the Horus Heresy novels. Including a focus on Ignace Karkasy, Mersadie Oliton and Euphrati Keeler with the XVI Legion.

  • @trimeerious4349
    @trimeerious4349 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    Getting a video about how each of the pre heresy primarchs would have reacted to being in Guillimans situation as imperial regent would be pretty cool ngl

    • @CodexQuinn
      @CodexQuinn 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Konrad: "TIME TO START THE SKINNING!"

    • @carnivaleyes1650
      @carnivaleyes1650 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can y’all let this one go lol

  • @bludhuuntr4946
    @bludhuuntr4946 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    A great war rages in the shadows and dark alleys and forgotten sectors of the galaxy. A war of spys.

    • @Nempo13
      @Nempo13 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The very concept of a Space Marine 'spy' amuses me so much. These guys are HUGE, they don't exactly fit in.

  • @williammiller4768
    @williammiller4768 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I’d really like to believe that the Alpha Legion low key aids the Lamenters out of sheer empathy. Not like total victory aid, more like “Almost all of them didn’t die” kinda aid. Even clearing their paths just enough for them to succeed in their missions.

  • @patchesgaming9139
    @patchesgaming9139 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    In the Alpharius book Alpharius took up the role of Omegon, also why would Omegon be the loyal one? He has spent less time with the Emperor and Malcador and would not have a reason to be loyal to them so there's a far larger chance that Omegon was the traitor and Alpharius was the loyalist.

  • @DarkApostleNoek
    @DarkApostleNoek 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I've just started reading Harrowmaster and it has been fun so far. The Alpha Legion I have seen so far have been Chaos aligned at least. My take is they are like the Dark Angel Fallen some are Imperial, some are Independent, some are Chaos. Though Alpha Legion Independent and Chaos are actually more on the same side it is just how their Warbands will operate.

  • @bluhd2265
    @bluhd2265 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Another fun fact as to why they are broken and do not trust each other is that they have no living horus heresy veteran. The alpha legion did not travel to the eye of terror, they stayed in real space. They are very similar to the loyal chapters in that they have lost most of their legion knowledge and the only unifying goal they have is the destruction of the Imperium. They don't really know why their ancestors joined the traitor legions but they are still following their commands

  • @raphaelrodriguez8316
    @raphaelrodriguez8316 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Wait, I thought the twist was that Alpharius was Omegon and a Traitor, and Omegon was really Alpharius who switched places with him and was a Loyalist.

  • @TAIWAN_40000
    @TAIWAN_40000 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Wonder what the loyalist primarchs would do once they found out about Omegon. Would they pummel and execute him or would they give the little brother a hug?

    • @sirhoon87
      @sirhoon87 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      If it was Vulkan doing the hug that's another primarch with a broken back

    • @maltheri9833
      @maltheri9833 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They'd execute him. They wouldn't accept that what he did justified the end. The end being a dead Emperor and a destroyed empire

  • @withlovefromlightindust591
    @withlovefromlightindust591 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Hello Majorkill,
    Would you please make some lore videos on the Imperial Truth, the Imperial Creed, the Ecclesiarchy, and the High Lords of Terra? Pretty please? Thank you.

    • @GrizzlyHillsRadio
      @GrizzlyHillsRadio 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      "Please and thank you"
      I think he has to now.

  • @Just_Lars
    @Just_Lars 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I always feel like when people talk about the Alpha Legion, Head of the Hydra is completely ignored. I mean yes, all records lie, but who tells us the same doesn't go for any other books. The main theme I took away from Head of the Hydra however was: Alpharious was always aware that, all things considered, he as a person is not important. That Omegon isn't important. The only thing that matters is which options they set up and ultimately chose to execute.
    Especially Alpharious lived his whole live in the shadows, as a non-existent person. The mathematical unknown nobody could calculate with. Always bordering with his actions near heresy, since the duty that was imposed on him by Malcador was, to protect humanity. Whatever the cost! Ironically, this made him in my opinion the most unlikely to fell to chaos. He had just one obligation, and if this meant to seemingly betray humanity, to be able to protect it more effectly, so be it. Nobody had liked him anyway, really. It was the perfect cover. Because, of course even Alpharius nor Omegon could predict who would come out on top ulitmately. The only thing they knew for certain was, that they had to prevent both prophecies of the cabaal from happening, because both would mean the end for humanity. The problem regarding the death of one of them was, I think, that they realized that fighting a primarch wasn't something they could impose on anyone else. And so, one has to die so the other one can continue the work. Setting cogs in motion, placing small seeds so they may be reaped when time is due. And when the Arch enemy tries it's final blow, they will probably be there.
    Aside from all the Lore-Discussion, we also should not forget that the Alpha Legion is basically a perfect plot device for GW. All the trash talk aside, with them dispersing their forces basically on any possible outcome, they made sure whatever happens, they'll come out on top. And with some people claming that GW has written the universe into a corner, I can see them picking the Alpha Legion as a literal deus ex machina to resolve that. Hell, they could just one day appear with a million trained and fitted space marines they created themselves with the untainted gene seed, crushing the tyranid invasion short of terra or something as far as potential storytelling is concerned. Wether this is disiarable or not is a whole different story.

  • @crimsonconquestcustoms2584
    @crimsonconquestcustoms2584 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Would like to see another day in the life of Majorkill video. Been two years since

  • @terminator9489
    @terminator9489 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Can we get a video about each primarch reaction to the emperor being put on the Golden Throne after the Heresy ?

    • @terminator9489
      @terminator9489 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @MarjorkillYT yes ?

  • @themitchnater7800
    @themitchnater7800 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Majorkill you should do a video on the life of a chaos cultists

  • @majorasmask5523
    @majorasmask5523 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Majorkill, are you familiar with Mass Effect? Because I’m wondering who would in an all out war between the Tyranids and the Reapers.

    • @Damien_N
      @Damien_N 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Reapers may do well in small engagements given that they can quickly convert fallen enemies to their cause. But on a galactic scale I think the tyranids may win out - they have faster ways to reinforce than the reapers. Much easier to cleanse worlds behinds the front lines and take that biomass onboard as direct reinforcement resource.

    • @maddraugr4667
      @maddraugr4667 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The reapers obvs. They are machine-beings ancient and super smart that have wipe out the galaxy clean several times already.

    • @apossiblyhereticalalphaleg3595
      @apossiblyhereticalalphaleg3595 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@maddraugr4667 I think it greatly depends on how much biomass the Tyranids can get from Reaper Husks. However, given that Husks are mostly machinery from what I remember, it'd be a pretty shit deal for the 'Nids and, as you presume, the Reapers would prolly win.

    • @maddraugr4667
      @maddraugr4667 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@apossiblyhereticalalphaleg3595 Another thing will be the indoctrination of species ability, i do not think that the tyranids are susceptible to it, but the most of the rest of the Wh40k should be, making everyone(or most) unite againts the nids and fight to the last will be a huge and catastrophic war, entire worlds will burn the reapers will appear benevolent to much all while life on the galaxy gets reaped. As planned. That i think gives for sure the victory to the reapers.✌️

    • @apossiblyhereticalalphaleg3595
      @apossiblyhereticalalphaleg3595 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@maddraugr4667 I presumed this scenario would be a 1-on-1 between Reapers vs Tyranids, with the Reapers having husks from previous Harvests and making more from fallen Nid bioforms. If we take into an account that they're rushing to see who gets the bigger part of a galactic buffet I actually think it's more debatable, as then we have forces like Chaos and the Necrons who are involved and are very capable of killing both of the original competitors, assuming they can bring their forces to bear properly.

  • @robertharper6481
    @robertharper6481 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Omegon meeting the lion or the autist and how that would effect current setting would be awesome.

  • @dudeboydudeboy-zj8kd
    @dudeboydudeboy-zj8kd 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Lore on the Imperial Navy, high lords, mutants, and Ecclesiarchy please

  • @Frescko
    @Frescko 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Video 50 of asking ‘What if Nykona Sharrowkyn killed Fulgrim’

  • @MrDorkbot
    @MrDorkbot 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    There should be a tally of every time the dark angels did something heretical VS every time the alpha legion did something loyal.

    • @Zeppathy
      @Zeppathy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Plot twist. Neither are loyal or traitor. Both went the independent rebel route.

  • @austinhu9388
    @austinhu9388 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Live from the black library does a really good job talking about this too

  • @supsup335
    @supsup335 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would be funny if it turned out in the end that it was basically a mini civil war, with factions of voth brothers split between loyalist and traitor, making every move of alpha and omega forces a coinflip.
    If this turns out to be true, i eat a broom.

  • @DanielWW2
    @DanielWW2 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My personal head cannon these days is that Rogal Dorn fought and killed Omegon, who was pretending to be Alpharius.
    Omegon who was in fact Alpharius, didn't fight and got killed by Guilliman. He is still around and secretly is still a loyalist who occasionally helps the Imperium in the most Alpha Legion way possible. The Alpha Legion meanwhile has largely fractured with some elements being loyalist who still take directions from Alpharius. Meanwhile the traitor elements of the legion, occasionally also take directions from Alpharius who plays the game and sacrifices lesser Imperial holdings to keep up appearances and enable the loyalist Alpha Legion to keep secretly helping the Imperium.
    I feel this way because Alpharius was the only Primarch actually raised by the Emperor and Malcador. And the line of thinking that Alpharius/Omegon displays, is arguably what you would get if you get raised by mainly Malcador. It also fits with all the Primarchs being very heavily influenced by their upbringing. In general they all seem to have been designed by the Emperor to be very impressionable on top of certain traits being designed into their genetics. A bit like taking the nature vs. nurture debate in humans, but taking both elements to the extreme. Then again, Primarchs are extreme "human" beings in all regards. Not just their physique or abilities, but also they way they function. They are humans, but where as most individual humans occupy a small part of the entire spectrum of what defines humanity, the individual Primarchs, tend to cover a very broad spectrum of human emotions, thinking patterns and other elements indeed.
    It quite frankly also clever writing which makes Primarchs, potentially such interesting characters.

  • @hmpang4996
    @hmpang4996 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    @Majorkill I was wondering for the past few days whether Orks being corrupted by chaos is still canon or not?

  • @DarthAzabrush
    @DarthAzabrush 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "I'm a spy, Leela, that means even I don't know what side I'm on.
    That's rather silly
    That's politics"- Co-Ordinator Narvin- Gallifrey

  • @lurkingedge
    @lurkingedge 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Third Path. Alpharius 2nd and Omegon 1st chose a third option to the Cabal's two choices, Alpharius 2nd aiding Horus, and Omegon 1st aiding the Imperium.
    Alpharius 2nd tried to convince Dorn of his cause, something Omegon 1st, formerly Alpharius, would have known better than to try with Dorn.
    Ingo Peck wasn't just operating under loyal orders, he was tasked with waking up a unit of stasised Alpha Legionairs under the Imperial Palace and giving them the loyalty code word, then leading them against the traitors.
    Shout out to Live From The Black Library for putting all this together.

  • @billalumni7760
    @billalumni7760 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Space Marines motto, "Do what's right".
    Alpha Legion motto, "Do what's right for you".

  • @borisvodka3068
    @borisvodka3068 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Agreed, Omegon is blatantly alive, and the legions split between fallen warbands that followed alpharius and ultimately ended up sucking on the chaos tit and those who stood with omegon and are still loyal

  • @khorney202
    @khorney202 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My impression on the alpha legion was some groups were given missions to help the loyalists and that's what they went with and the others who went on traitor missions became CSM's. Could explain why traitor legionnaires don't think there are any loyalists left in the legion?

  • @janisir4529
    @janisir4529 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Alpharius: Brother, I forgot whose side are we on.

  • @El_Presidente_5337
    @El_Presidente_5337 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Video starts at 1:59

  • @chestnut4860
    @chestnut4860 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Alpharius was arrogant and kind of stupid"
    * *sniff* *
    Finally I found a primarch to empathize with.

  • @EbeeDeeby
    @EbeeDeeby 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Glad we've got to the bottom of this difficult question!

  • @emmanuelijomah8163
    @emmanuelijomah8163 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Yeah they're definitely Loyalist
    Quote :
    We work in the dark to serve the light.
    I don't think Rogal covered alpharius his death to shame him, alpharius and Rogal might have had a conversation upon his death and told him exactly what was going on and how to save the imperium inorder to sell the story to Horus

  • @michaellee1244
    @michaellee1244 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Alpharius turned traitor Omegon stayed loyal. Remember the game of Regicide the Emperor played with Malcador? The Emperor said "Alpharius my son what chance did you give my dream"

  • @ironlegion8214
    @ironlegion8214 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    These videos are making alpha legion my favorite legion as time goes on

  • @Stormyang4358
    @Stormyang4358 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just imagine if GW decides to have Alpha legion play as both traitor and loyal codex or with demi primarch units. The data sheet and objectives are going to be crazy and confusing like drawing a card "defeat enemy characters and next turn save them".
    Disguise your unit as an enemy unit by controlling enemy units for one turn.
    Another crazy one will be like "loyal Alpha legion defeat your own traitor Alpha legion and shout "FOR THE EMPEROR".

  • @1074kilo
    @1074kilo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm starting to see that the Alpha Legion is an entire legion of The Fallen.

  • @slitth
    @slitth 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ‘We have come to appreciate that Utopian goals are ultimately counter-intuitive to species survival,’
    ‘No power can engender, or force to be engendered, a state of perfection,’
    ‘because perfection is an absolute that cannot be attained by an imperfect species.’
    ‘It is better to manage and maintain the flaws of man on an ongoing basis,’
    Excerpt From
    Legion
    Dan Abnett

  • @jakenicol4012
    @jakenicol4012 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How about a video detailing what the galaxy would look like if The Emperor never existed

  • @stripeybag6977
    @stripeybag6977 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I thought the Alpha Legion's war cry was confused screaming. You think we'll hear about that mini Astronomicon person they took every again?
    Day 319 of requesting a Commissar Yarrick Major Mini pls and thank you.

  • @loltwest9423
    @loltwest9423 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The one thing I hate about the Alpha Legion's lore is their explanation for why Alpharius turned traitor and him deciding to duel Rogal Dorn alone. That shit was stupid. I can only hope they give us a really good as fucking explanation for what that was all about.
    Thankfully, everything else is super-based AF.

  • @Supersurfer12
    @Supersurfer12 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If humanity died out, wouldn't Slaanesh still feed on the Eldar? Was the Cabal a tool of Tzeentch?

  • @w4rpf1nnlad
    @w4rpf1nnlad 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    They are my favorite traitor legion, but also my favorite loyalist legion. Also story about covert ALs shooting each other was comedic-gold.

  • @Joni_Tarvainen
    @Joni_Tarvainen 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My read of the whole Heresy time Alpha Legion is this: Alpharius was the first found, the Emperors shadow.
    Alpharius found Omegon whom was from much move hostile environment resulting more brutish version of Alpharius.
    Alpharius was loyal, Omegon traitor. It was Omegon who died at the hands of Dorn (He had Omegon's armor, spear and arrogance). Alpharius was more subtle than Omegon. Guilliman claims he has killed "Omegon" but I don't believe on that one since it's just mentioned in a codex or something very briefly.
    40K Alpha legion is vastly different, they are in my eyes half actual traitors and half loyalists. Ghost legion is traitor for sure and they have disawoved the twins but then for example Hydras are Loyal. They do heretical shit but they do it for the Emperor and are always looking the bigger picture much like back in 30k era under Alpharius.

  • @legio-IV-Cataphract
    @legio-IV-Cataphract 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A video of the top ten community made wholesome moments would be great

  • @reecerobinson901
    @reecerobinson901 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm under the belief that the emperor knew what was going happen and needed certain events to play out a particular way and thats what the alpha legion does ensures certain thing happen a certain way or will lead to events in a particular way

  • @IamAlpharius.
    @IamAlpharius. 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Isn't it fun getting confused by our shenanigans

  • @ChrisLove887
    @ChrisLove887 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Alpha legion out there doing just enough to convince whoever the winning side is that they were with them the whole time😂

  • @thearkitect4254
    @thearkitect4254 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    ORKTOBER. WE NEED MORE ORKS
    ORKTOBER. WE NEED MORE ORKS
    ORKTOBER. WE NEED MORE ORKS
    Please make an ork video
    I will not stop until you do unless you ask me to stop since it’s probably annoying getting the same comment over and over again

  • @scribbles1424
    @scribbles1424 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is why the Alpha legion is so interesting, you have zero idea what is going on begind the scenes or why they are really doing things. Everyone is confused so they're living up to their design.

  • @LordGadwin
    @LordGadwin หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bystander - Who do you serve Alpha legion?
    Alpha Legion - It's complicated.

  • @Goyimdemduc
    @Goyimdemduc 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I never played Warhammer never owend any figures never even read a Warhammer book but this Guy makes me a fan of it 😂he talks about Warhammer but he makes it realy fkn funny to watch he puts in a cheeky joke once and a while this channel has realy grown on me thé last couple of weeks

  • @ulrichvonlichtenstain9378
    @ulrichvonlichtenstain9378 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Video idea
    What would’ve Perturabo do with Imperial city defenses, if he had been put to build it over Dorn.

  • @Bobrob1597
    @Bobrob1597 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m still waiting for Omegon to get a model. So many people think Omegon and Alpharius use the same gear and this is simply not true.

  • @Crossbow-xy4xg
    @Crossbow-xy4xg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Alpha Legion: *Does Alpha Legion shit*
    Me: There is good in thier hearts, I can fix them.

  • @ArnoldJudasRimmer..
    @ArnoldJudasRimmer.. 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do we all think that when Alpharius ordered a pizza....he never actually knew which bloody flavor would turn up? Or for that matter, if it would even be a pizza?? I mean who knows....may randomly be a kebab.

  • @thedudeabides5
    @thedudeabides5 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Now that forge world doesn't sell the Asterion Moloc model, will you be doing one of your own?

  • @Cpt.Str4ng3
    @Cpt.Str4ng3 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Alpharius/Omegon; Yes but no but yes but no. Maybe. *flips up both middle fingers in a general direction* *high fives cypher**farts**vanishs*

  • @Mr.Crow1984
    @Mr.Crow1984 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Theory, Alpha Legion Warbands are a result of the use of different codewords on selected groups of Alpha legionaires.
    If i had to speculate a bit more, after the heresy Omegon gets rid of the codes inside his head and desides to wiat out and hide. To do this he fights Guilliman and the ultramarines in a confusing bsttle where absolute chaos rains over the battlefield. Omegon uses the chaos of the battle to say different codewords to specific groups in orther to separate them and spread the legion (making ot hard to tell how many members are still alive). Then he just fakes his dead at the hands of Guilliman and goes into hiding.
    This could explain why some warbands claim to be loyal to the emperor and/or the impirium, and why others are traitors and even use chaos.

  • @mogwiawolf4354
    @mogwiawolf4354 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Probably making a more loyal alpha legion with the gene code

  • @3ggh3ad
    @3ggh3ad หลายเดือนก่อน

    next "Every Time the Dark Angels did something Heretical"

  • @marshallcooper9697
    @marshallcooper9697 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yay you did it thank you. Now I can still confused.

  • @alexderksen1213
    @alexderksen1213 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hey Majorkill. I was curious if in the future there would be a video about the modern Eldar, and the necrons current relationship. It would be interesting to know the modern day Eldar perspective on the returning necrons. And the current necron thoughts on the now dying Eldar. Also it would be cool to hear about some battles between the two races in modern 40 k.

  • @transfan962
    @transfan962 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do a video on the chief librarian from each legion.

  • @kapistar1
    @kapistar1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome video Fulgrim

  • @wessidegaming2023
    @wessidegaming2023 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is gonna give me a headache in the 41st millennium

  • @smokinggnu6584
    @smokinggnu6584 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'll take that as a definite Maybe.

  • @anotter321
    @anotter321 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Forget their loyalty, what if the Alpha legionnaires are like the clones from star wars. Clones showing a likeness to their primark, and the codes shit mentioned in the vid reminds me of the inhibitor chips.

  • @TomFynn
    @TomFynn 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    “There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Alpha Legion is for and why it is here, it will instantly go Ghost and be replaced by something even more covert and inexplicable.
    There is another theory which states that this has already happened.”
    -Douglas Alpharius

  • @51angrybees40
    @51angrybees40 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Boom, the primaris are the super alpha legion marines created from that super seed they found

  • @AppalachianWarhammer
    @AppalachianWarhammer 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    MajorKill: Even tho I talk about the most nerdiest thing on the planet....
    That one Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh Fan: Well actually...
    The rest of the fanbase: Shhhhhh....let him speak

  • @seranonable
    @seranonable 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "HURRRRRR IF CHAOS WINS IT'LL STILL DIE EVENTUALLY AFTER THE HEAT DEATH OF THE UNIVERSE" -alpharius

    • @seranonable
      @seranonable 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @MarjorkillYT i have something for your mom

  • @NotJosh5
    @NotJosh5 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love it baby. another day, another *asmr video

  • @OrdinatorSeldro
    @OrdinatorSeldro 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So FUM is basically non dangerous smoking? Cool.

  • @davidwalker891
    @davidwalker891 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm still convinced, until the canon states otherwise, that Cypher is Omegon.

  • @Pateddyo
    @Pateddyo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do an asmodia lore vid

  • @LordGadwin
    @LordGadwin หลายเดือนก่อน

    You videos always make me want to play Stellaris. I'm not sure why.

  • @Talock2000
    @Talock2000 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would really like to hear his take once he has read the new Alpha Legion book renegade

  • @zackthomas7386
    @zackthomas7386 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What if Omegon is actually Tiberus the red wake after being modified by the raptor project gene seed, and the reason they are always on the outskirts is because he's trying to hide his primarc aura/ defend against random traitor BS.
    After all, weren't alpharius and Omegon often disguised as just standard marines or honor guard with a normal astartes acting as alpharius?

  • @rangerdanger3748
    @rangerdanger3748 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hydra Dominatus

  • @MatZee27
    @MatZee27 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So are the Alpha Legion actually loyalists or traitors?!
    Alpha Legion : **nudge nudge wink wink**

  • @johnaeryns5364
    @johnaeryns5364 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lmfao, I just thought of that meme of ghidora where two of the heads are cool and have their shit together. But the third one is derpy as fuck. That's the alpha legion.

  • @SithAssassin209
    @SithAssassin209 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Covering the best legion.. nioce! #weareallAlpharius

    • @SithAssassin209
      @SithAssassin209 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @-majorkillYT let’s go!

  • @MotelIndigo
    @MotelIndigo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please consider some Alpha Legion inspired merch in the next drop.

    • @MotelIndigo
      @MotelIndigo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      doubt it. @MarjorkillYT

  • @Admiralkirk95
    @Admiralkirk95 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I always held the belief that the alpha legion had kinda 4D chessed itself into confusion. That either through it all some began to believe thewy were actually with chaos, which leads to the actually evil legionaires. And some who still secretly help the imperium however they can. I did not know about the codes making them act differently, for or against the emperor in the heresy. No answer is straight forward with the alpha legion. Were both twins loyal and 4D chessed eachother, did one conspire to kill the other, did they scheme too close to the sun and sort of lose control?
    Andnow the modern alpha legion still can't agree. Multiple warbands, only one apparently does the "I'm Alpharius' thing anymore, and they all have their own agendas. Maybe going all the way back to the heresy days making them affiliate with the codes their originators got. Since the alpha legion seems to be one of the more distant users of the ruinious powers that probably means they operate outside of the permanent warpstorms. Which means they age normally. So the gene seed they stole in the heresy might have been for that. Knowing full well they wouldn't return to the eye of terror and needed ways to replace their men since they are subject to normal time and aging. I hope one day this is more expanded and we get more diffinitive answers. maybe someone in thealpha legion will realize it must be unified and a civil war amongstthemselves will start to determine the course of their legion from that point. Loyal renegades, or aligned with chaos?

  • @papageorgeo6792
    @papageorgeo6792 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Keep the good shit up compadre

  • @Eckskalibur
    @Eckskalibur 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And Alpha Legion response: -Every time we’re mentioned- -Never- WTF are we doing?

  • @jonbaxter2254
    @jonbaxter2254 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd love to think these guys are just fucking with chaos for the lols

  • @AR99.99
    @AR99.99 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do a vid about Iskandar Khayon.