The ALPHA LEGION in the HORUS HERESY | Legion XX: Origins | Warhammer Lore
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- We're finally there - Legion 20 and it's probably the strangest of these videos to date on account of everything being LIES! So let's find out what might or might not be true about the Alpha Legion!
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Alpha Legion are my favorite legion because they take the 40k lore ethos of "everything is canon" to its logical extreme. They're the good/bad/neutral guys who either are the only ones who know what's REALLY going on or are chaos personified and just doing shit for no reason beyond what they want to do in the moment. Or both.
i am alpharius or am i? (vsauce music)
@@SirZeu the vsauce music contains a memetic virus that infects mechanicus systems on one specific agriworld, ruining the harvest and ensuring a specific legion does not receive the food it needs to complete a 15 year siege of a traitor world.
@@ecyor0 hydra dominatus!
You are entirely… correct?
@@TheSebastianSykes that is a lie
As a casual fan of Warhammer lore (both fantasy and 40k) for the past 20 years, this series has been great. You have my most sincere gratitude Ian.
He’s only gone and done it!!! Congratulations on getting all legions covered! The emperor surely rejoices this momentous occasion:)
Every single point about the Alpha Legion can be followed by, "But, did they?"
The Alpha Legion represent the volatile nature of 40k where everyone believes themselves to be the Hero and at the same could be seen as the Villains of the story. They are both the most traitorous and loyal members of the imperium. I love it.
your videos are criminally underrated. Cant believe you dont have more subs. Thanks for all the work you do in getting these out to the masses
I'll never figure out how GW came up with such creative names like Alpharius and Omegon.
Love this series, hoping you do more lore videos.
The beginning and the end?
Thanks for this great series. Not flashy or annoying, just a pleasure to watch and let the narrative drive the interest. :) Next series idea... the initial years after the Siege of Terra. Keep up the great work.
Alpharius gave leadership of the 20th Omegon. Omegon became Alpharius and was killed by Dorn. Alpharius was heavily schooled by Malcador and sacrificed his brother for some grand scheme? I believe Alparius is still loyal to the Emperor.
Thanks a lot!! I watched all 20 videos and now the Heresy story is spoiled for me!! You should put some kind a warning at the start!!!
Congrats on reaching the 20th!!! I've been following along from the beginning. These videos are outstanding, thank you so much!! I keep re-watching them while painting ... learning through osmosis, lol.
Will you be doing a blackshields/shattered legions video? I think it would be a interesting to talk about the non-legion elements of the heresy
We must have read a different book because Omegon is the one that died Alpharius was the one that felt it far off and then goes my "Alpharius Omegon" as tribute. At least how I read it. (over and over) "Alpharius is my fav."
Finally an Alpha Legion video AND Liz kicks the bucket? What an amazing day!
Please Ian ! Do the others chapters of the foundings ! I loved your work on this series !
Wonderful series. Sad to have it end (even though it always had to)
My favorite loyalist/traitor legion.
I clicked on this accidentally, after 5 minutes you got me bud. Now my work listening. Cheers from murica
I've always loved the idea that Alpharius disguised himself as a Custodes alongside the Emperor, that way he wouldn't need to deal with questions of why he was in any given place, and he could operate with Custodes credentials but not dressed as one for more covert operations.
I think the Kabal was trying to eliminate humanity not out of the greater good of the galaxy, but bc they were afraid of the ascendancy of humans. They knew how powerful we could be.
Congrats on getting through all the legions. You've done an absolutely fantastic job on these. That being said, my loyalty to the First Legion has not wavered though these all of these holograms. I'm looking forward to whatever lore series you come up with next.
A project I've always wanted to write is a novel where it's imperial fists fighting alpha legion in the modern timeline. The alphas are using loads of cultists and have clearly lost sight of their purpose - they keep planning out fiendish plans which take them around in circles, their brains addled by Chaos. We see the fists on the other side also through human eyes - the mortal troops are key to the fortress they're building in preparation for the coming alpha attack. The fists aren't like the emperor's angels they've heard of in stories. The fists are tired - needing to take a two hour period of rest each day where they slip into a state which is half meditation and half deep grief.
Anyway it turns out the imperial fists are also alpha legion in disguise, still trying to fulfil the mission they began during the heresy of saving the galaxy from chaos and on this particular day that means ensnaring and culling some of their brethren who had lost their way
this is the one I was looking forward to most, great video
Dude! This series was really cool. I'd absolutely watch more lore videos from you. Cracking job.
Superb. Thank you
I love this condensed yet detailed style of your videos. Would be cool to get a lore breakdown like that for the Mechanicum as well as the Xenos races.
I love this series that you’ve made
Omegon is cypher
I have been watching your lore vids and i've notice that you wear the color of the legion you are talking about as a shirt heh
It was Omegon who died. The lore makes no sense if Alpharius turned traitor. Alpharius was privy to the secrets of the Emperor, including the existence of the Webway Project and His plans to save humanity by cutting it off from the Warp. Omegon was bitter and angry. He felt that he had been abandoned by the Emperor on the backwater planet, and that he had never been truly accepted by his brothers as an equal. He did not care about the plans of the Emperor and was said to be becoming ever more aggressive as the Crusade progressed. The lore only makes sense if Alpharius stayed true while Omegon fell, otherwise we have to believe that Alpharius became suddenly bitter towards the Emperor, forgot about all of the secrets he knew, and decided to throw everything away just to seek revenge against someone he had no need of vengeance on, while Omegon decided to stay loyal to someone he never knew, was able to pry some secrets from the mind of his brother Alpharius and was able to keep secret the fact that he was using those same secrets to undermine Alpharius's actions against the Imperium. That's just nonsensical, even for Warhammer 40k.
So you think its more likely that alpharius let omegon essentially take over the legion and lead it into treachery in his name while he faded back into the shadows?
@sturm9087 Yes. Read the Horus Heresy books and you'll see that Alpharius did just that.
@@ExecratedPlaysGaming Ive read legion and from how alpharius acts in that it would be very out of character for him to just sideline himself for no reason
@@sturm9087 But he does just that. He literally agrees to let Omegon take his place and lead the Legion.
An outstanding series! Fantastic research and lore. Congratulations.
Well done, a great video and series!
Finally!!
My favorite
My interpretation was always that Alpha/Omega aren't actually the primarch. The real 20th primarch died as a child and these two were childhood friends or whatnot
Sinners in a shroud of lies
FINALLY!!!!
I am Alpharius.
I am Alpharius
This video being unlisted I see what you did there
Is it?
this video has always been unlisted, this is a lie
You guys are hilarious!
Don’t forget the best line in the setting and the best way to retcon anything comes from the Head of the Hydra. “This is my record and all records lie”
The first 40K novel I ever read was _Legion,_ so I have a certain affection for the sons of Alpharius. Indeed, alongside the Night Lords and Thousand Sons, the Alpha Legion are among my favorite of the traitor legions.
What I like about the Alpha Legion is their narrative flexibility. They can be anywhere, do anything, and fighting anyone. They might be traitors pretending to be loyalists, loyalists pretending to be traitors, or independent agents playing both sides for their own inscrutable goals. They themselves might not even know whose side they're on, only following through ancient and dubious directives.
And on the battlefield, anyone can be the Alpha Legion in disguise. A chapter's colors are just a coat of paint, after all, and their agents and spies are embedded in many organizations. Sleepers waiting, perhaps unknowingly, for the signal to act.
Hydra Dominatus.
What an AMAZING series, I'm so glad to have watched as they came out one by one!
Very cool man.
It seems a little strange to me that the most enigmatic, conniving and impersonating Legion ISN’T the Tzeentch aligned Traitor Legion.
It is the most Tzeentch thing though, them not being aligned with him.
But if there was a clear alignment, they would be less enigmatic, conniving, and impersonating.
In fact, if they were aligned with Tzeench it would make sense for them to cover it up and pretend they were not aligned with any of the chaos gods.
The bit in Dan Abnett's Alpha Legion Horus Heresy book where he reveals that the Emperor is dooming humanity and all of the galaxy to extinction, that the greater good is served by Horus winning and that this is possibly why the Alpha Legion turned traitor is probably the ballsiest / most shocking lore moment in their whole canon, I think. Pretty much turns everything on its head.
I was pretty surprised that they let him do it.
What makes it better is that we don't actually know what Alpharius and Omegon really think about it. They fight for Horus, of course, but to what end? Do they even really buy the Cabal's vision? Are they really playing the long game?
I always assumed that the Alpha Legion always worked towards their own ends. While people claim they are traitors, they're not. They are attempting to use the tactics and methods they've perfected on a galactic scale. It is why there are reports saying they hurt the traitors while at the same time helping the traitors. They have their own goal, and my guess would be to see humanity's survival over all else.
The Serpent Beneath is also pretty mind-bending - one of the few Heresy books I have gone back and re-read a couple of times trying to make sense of it.
@@Bluecho4 the cabal is probably biased though. Yes Chaos is a problem because humanity is a good energy source for them but you have to realize the cabal was made up of xenos who were under threat of extinction by humanity so getting humanity to fight itself/destroy itself no matter the outcome was always in their best interest
I always thought alpharius was traitor and omegon loyalist, or vice versa
Thanks for the video.
Loyalist Legions: "Alpha Legion, I hate those guys."
Traitor Legions: "Alpha Legion, I hate those guys."
Alpha Legion: "Just as planned."
Alpha Legion: All according to Keikaku.
(sorry, old anime meme)
“Eternal war demands eternal discipline” is a quote that keeps me going in the gym even after a 12 hour shift
The roman markings of the 20th/XX Legion is definitely a not-so-suble allusion to the Double-Cross system used by the United Kingdom's MI5 during World War 2.
I hope you continue to bring us lore after this, it's been such a good series!
Love the Alpha Legion for their meticulous attention to detail, their use of human agents, their multi layered attacks, and their disregard for strategic and tactical dogma. Hydra Dominatus!
Head of the hydra is Omegon talking about Alpharius experiences
Omegons opinions come out contradicting Alpharius thoughts and history
Nice video
There is unfortunately way to much to talk about with Spoilers
It is unclear who died Alpharius or Omegon to Dorn
John French and Mike Brooks comments are contradicting on the matter
I actually choose to fully believe the story of the Alpharius primarch book, everything about the legion is so shrouded in mystery and deceit that most anything can be true or false, so I choose to believe the story that I like the most.
I personally agree and choose to believe that story as their true backstory.
People that say they don’t trust his version need to keep that energy with the rest of the primarchs. Can you really say you trust anything any of them say?
"This, too, is a lie"
I absolutely choose to believe everything in that book as well. it's so good, it ties everything so well together. especially with how alpharius (who goes by the name omegon in books like Legion) was always the completely anonymous one, and omegon was the one that acted as the primarch outward and had slightly more ornate armor and used the spear.
omegon was the one that came forward as the primarch to horus, and died at the hands of rogal dorn. after which alpharius met horus before the siege began, giving them plans of the solar system, but withdrawing his legion from aiding horus in the siege.
Great capstone to this series.
Any chance you’ll touch on other groups during the Heresy, such as the Custodes, Sisters of Silence, Mechanicum, Officio Assassinorum, et al?
Thank you so much, this has been an awesome series.
We need another one. Maybe address all the crazy theories about 40k. Idk but you are my favorite 40k lore creator so please, keep cranking out those videos!!!
Finally my sons get their day! Thank you so much for such a great series. As someone getting into Heresy and with only a passing knowledge of each of the legions, this series has been really fun and interesting to watch.
I do little wees of joy when I see your Horus heresy legion videos pop up in my feed.
I can only hit the like button once!!!! =(
Can we get a 2nd Founding Series now? ;) Great stuff as always.
Excellent end to an excellent series. I've enjoyed every one of them, and hope that you carry on doing these for other factions.
Finally getting to my Legion because I am Alpharius
I’m Alpharius , and so’s my wife
Good lord how have a binge all 20. At this rate ill be caught up soon.
"I am Alpharius"
- Alpharius, probrably.
Alpharius novel is great. Especially introducing the twins.
I think there might of been some kinda of internal Schism within the Alpha Legion, Similar to what happened with the Dark Angels.
Imo, Alpharius gestation pod landed on terra while Omegon’s gestation pod landed across the galaxy.
So it was Alpharius at the side of Malcador and the Emperor for all those years, remaining undercover as their secret weapon.
Later when the brothers eventually found eachother, they decided to switch identities and it was actually Omegon who came out to Horus as Alpharius and figurehead of the Alpha legion.
I like to believe that one twin stayed loyalist while the other turned traitor, and it was actually Omegon(publicly under the guise of Alpharius) who died on Pluto, after siding with Horus.
While Alpharius(who remained hidden under the guise of Omegon) remained aligned with the Emperor and the Imperial creed.
Stay where you are
Yes, thats what happened in Head of the Hydra, Omegon met Horus and Alpharius stayed hidden.
Amogus
In the Alpharius novel, I view Alpharius is telling the truth but as a jest is saying he’s lying. The fact that he’s lying is the lie itself. A very Alpha Legion thing to do.
Alpha Legion, today of all days? Suspicious... ,😑
Right?? RIGHT?!?!
"Alpharius sends his regards"
I have been such a fan of this video series. Thank you for the service you provide in making Horus Heresy approachable!
Thanks for this series Ian, it's been epic
This was a fabulous series. I thoroughly enjoyed it and learned a ton. Thank you
I'm pretty sure that Dorn killed Omegon who was disguised himself as Alpharius?
YES! I have been waiting so long for these guys! It's a tie between them and the IW's for my favourite.
I really feel like it was Omegon who died and Alpharious who lived but felt guilty for the schism between him and his twin and the this is a lie thing is meant as he is no longer whole and can never be the Alpharious in the good graces of the emperor ever again but I guess all the more learned lore scholars all think otherwise
Her Majesty passes, the world reacts, and in the midst of that chaos Arb-Ian releases his Alpha Legion video in the most Alpha Legion way possible.
Most effective legion, by far. can achieve the same level of disruption of a company of Space Wolves with a half-dozen embedded operatives that might not even be Astartes.
I'm honestly so sad that this series has now come to an end. I've never been so engaged with a series of videos on TH-cam before, getting so excited when a new episode dropped. Absolutely hats off to you, the quality of this content has been utterly fantastic.
Perhaps a series discussing the lore of each xenos faction?
Hopefully they are waiting for the right moment to turn on the chaos or revive the emperor with some of that secret technology
I think its also implied that alpharius and omegon maybe were differently convinced as to the cabal's vision or warning, and I think its in the scene when omegon hears of alpharius' death at pluto he seems pretty disinclined to continue supporting horus. There are also plenty of indications (although of course no facts ;) ) that there may have been various alpha legion factions during the heresy who were actively working against each other, or maybe they weren't, who knows?!
The only one who can kill Alpharius is Alpharius and long live Alpharius
Really like that they still keep the legion a full on mystery. Reunification war for any legion is my favourite. Will you cover any of the other factions during this period? Nice video. Keep up the good work..
The II Legion video was the best one! ;-)
Hydra Dominatus!!
Brilliant series. Thank you very much :)
Alpha legion and world eaters my favorite legions
Hope you're going to carry on with the Sisters of Silence, Solar Auxlia, The Custards and so on.
I doubt alpharius is the public head of the alpha legion, and. thus Oregon would have been slain by Dorn. alpharius was raised in complete secrecy and especially in the beginning of alpharius hoth, it is stated numerous times how important that secrecy was. in my headcanon alpharius never became widely know to the galaxy, or at least not under that personality, and Oregon immediately assumed public command of the legion as alpharius. that would also explain why they would retreat after the battle of Pluto, since alpharius was always more conflicted in his loyalty since he was raised on terra by the emperor.
Omegon* I don't think Oregon was around anymore during the heres...
This is why I favor the AL over all the other legions: dedication to the mission, obsessive tactical creativity and innovation, a disregard for "distastefulness" in legitimate strategems, and unwillingness to divulge intelligence, even to allies, where it's unnecessary. Say what you will, but historically, those are hallmarks of success in real-world warfare, and I appreciate that the Alpha Legion is ready to get down throw some sucker punches and pocket sand if it means preserving the lives of their personnel and subordinates in addition to shoring up a mission's chances of success. Others can say they lack honor or that they're less than because of their sideways tactics, but that's what makes the legion special.
One could argue they took it too far though since by the time of 40k there is no real unified alpha legion and the disparate forces at times come into conflict with one another. Their unwillingness to divulge information or have a set command structure meant that when they broke apart they broke apart hard, if there was any kind of plan post heresy its obvious most astartes dont know it and at this point probably never will.
Ideally appreciate how your shirt matches the legion’s coloring through all the videos.
They had knowledge from the Cabal so they knew what would happen. If they stayed loyal they'd lose their greatest strength, secrecy. The imperium was becoming stagnant and rigid while chaos gave room to move freely. To the Alpha legion it wasn't about loyalty or betrayal but survival. They knew that whatever the outcome, it was bad. A slow death of a fast one. They chose to live. They stole the secret on how to create astartes and after ten thousand years their legion appears to be still intact and not raving lunatics like most of the chaos legions or fighting to preserve the imperium where life isn't much better than the warp where they'd be excommunicated eventually anyhow.
He survived by the miraculous healing powers of the balsamic vinaigrette bath
Thanks very much for doing this series, I’ve really enjoyed it
Ah yes the 20th legion, the legión who saw the mission impossible’s magical masks and ridiculously over convoluted plans and thought yeah this is a thing in which 8 foot tall blue clad walking tanks would excel.
I am not alpharius and if you think I am you are an idiot.
Now unto the non astartes human factions! I need this lore series to continue!
Thank you for making this series. Each video has been incredible, from the lore to the production quality. The series is a real resource for anyone wanting to take a deep dive into the history of Warhammer 40,000.
Watching them has reinvigorated my interest in 40k, a game that hasn’t been on my radar in ten years. I’ve picked up a codex and some models to paint, although ironically I haven’t opted for Marines!
I look forward to your next lore videos. Thanks once again.
A lovely ride, thank you Ian.
Thank you for this terrific series Ian!
awe man! ther're all done! great series !
Ran Dan Xenocides is a band name and a half🤣
This series is how I got into Warhammer lore. I used to collect the miniatures when I was younger but never actually looked into the incredible lore much. Thank you Ian for being the perfect introduction to Warhammer 40k
Congrats! Loved the series, and the format -- clearly a lot of work went into these. Would love to see more of this.
What an amazing series Ian, I love your channel and no doubt that I will stay subscribe after this ride had ended.
I, too, am Alpharius.