Destiny Talks About (Trans Emails, Transmedicalism, Manifesto)
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omg that email Destiny read around the 11 minute mark literally sounded like the exact things I say. For so many of us trans ppl we just want a cozy quiet and happy life. Being trans isn't an important part of our identity.. our work, our hobbies, skills, etc is where we find our identity. The split between the activists and trans ppl is something that frustrates so many trans ppl. glad the emailer mentioned shit like us being attacked and called shit like truscum, etc. despite us just wanting trans ppl to do the legwork to understand themselves and to get the best care possible medically while they transition. Especially since dysphoria really sucks.
Yes! Exactly! I literally just want to vibe.
Yeah and I hate when people say shit like #shamecispeople which was really popular on Twitter. Like we want to be cis we want to just live being trans doesn’t make us better, why do they wanna separate us from cis people so bad when the reason we transition is to be seen as cis.
@goddess Bree that makes sense. Do you feel your “groups” (sorry not sure how else to say it) are less accepting of you than the general public? Everything I hear it seems that may be true and if so that is a huge hurdle probably.
the BIGGEST winning point for trans activism is that we can now see these things from a scientific point of view with brain scans and new information in the medical field. To go and now decide anyone can be trans without any rhyme or reason just takes away all of that credibility.
Don't tempt science, you start going down that route and you'll find out 90%+ of "trans" are not actually trans but just losers wanting to feel better about themselves.
Yeah but you can’t just ask a random person on the street for their brain scan papers and medical diagnosis. IRL you’re just taking people at face value.
I'm not sure there is science proving that much. There is gender dysphoria but it's rare. Now, most "trans" ppl are not dysphoric
@@secularjihadi dysphoria isn't science either, it's a personal reporting
@@ShouVertica yes. As is true of most psychiatric conditions. But if there is any stable and defensible idea of being "trans" it's that
I live in mexico which is very conservative and I (as a very liberal guy for the standard of my surrounding) was always very open minded towards trans people because of their medical experience. I had the chance to study abroad in Europe and obviously the culture shock regarding these types of subjects was way too much. I remember i got into almost a fight with some other guy that was calling me transphobic for expressing my transmedicalist views. It just seemed really far fetched to me to accept the fact that someone can transition without a medical experience, i guess i just can’t consede to the fact that someone without disphoria would want to be a part of the most underprivileged groups out there
Gender dysphoria is an incongruence between your assigned gender/sex characteristics and your gender identity (sense of self in relation to gender/sex)
Your identity doesn’t have to match your expression, it just has to be compatible. So social transition does work for some
Dysphoria is more like a feeling such as anxiety and depression, and like those if it is severe enough it can be considered disorder
These people want community and want to feel like they are doing something so speaking out for trans people makes them feel good and pretending they are trans gives them credibility and community.
Since they hijacked what being trans is they don’t have to have any of the real terribleness of being trans like crippling dysphoria. They have to just change their pronouns (don’t even have to that really) and just say “I’m non-binary” then they are suddenly trans with out having to ever transition.
I also noticed that a lot of these people are afab they will take on trans nby but still label themselves as lesbians yet they hate if you call them a women. Which makes me wonder if a large part of this is internalized misogyny. not wanting to be seen as women so you call yourself “trans” but they also hate men so they use “trans masc”
I remember years ago hearing destiny talk about trans people, saying that transmedicalists are exclusionary. I was pretty transphobic for a long while just because my only interactions with any trans people were the most militant and belligerent activists at my school and online. All it took was meeting literally one person, to change my view. I still think trans people without disphoria aren't "real" trans people, it just seems like an attention grab, and an excuse to exert power over people
Huge attention grabs going on especially with young people. Just walk into a high school or middle school. You’d be shocked how a lot of them just follow the flavor of the day. It really ruins it for the true trans people and gay people.
To me it can be more than that. Some people might look at what the society expects from them because of their gender and not like that at all. And then they notice there is this trans movement and so they think this is what it is about. It's not like they have the other experience to compare it with (the one with disphoria).
And then there are definitely people who just want attention, but I think it's more that people took the term and started applying it to something else. But the something else is resonating with more people, as there aren't really that many trans people. Which sucks of course
"A long while".. why parade around using big words when you can't even use small ones coherently.
Not sure why Destiny (a cis guy) would refer to transmedicalists this way, unless maybe I misunderstood your comment? I guess I’d be considered “transmed” by a lot of extreme leftists just because of my opinions about dysphoria/xenogenders etc. I’m a trans man and I honestly think the community can be toxic can harmful. Trans people are shunned and essentially cancelled if they say anything outside of what is “acceptable”.
Transmeds deradicalise more ppl then tucutes who make the trans ppl sound like attention seekers
Dang. And here I thought the whole point of trans issues was dysphoria. Like, that's why we are supposed to use their preferred pronouns etc. To alleviate their suffering.
Not really, gender identity is just something we take for granted a lot amongst people who don’t experience an incongruence.
Being trans means having a gender identity (sense of self in regards to sex/gender) that differs from the one you were assigned, gender dysphoria is having an incongruence with those things.
When I went to the doctors with gender dysphoria I didn’t say I was trans, I said I had been experiencing gender dysphoria
"Radicalized by these emails"
You're not being radicalized towards anything when you consider a condition characterized by dysphoria to require dysphoria in order to have that condition. A = A and B = B, but B != A isn't radical. Maybe someone doesn't want to alleviate the dysphoria, but having it would be a necessary prerequisite for the trans condition. Remove it and you're left entirely with self-ID and you won't be able to meaningfully differentiate being trans from having a different personality or worldview, and that would trivialize the experience of trans people by lumping in dysphoric and non-dysphoric people into the same category. The obvious path to radicalization lies down the road of "there's no prerequisites to being trans".
I didn’t tell the doctor I was trans, I told them I had been experiencing dysphoria. These things are different. You don’t treat being trans, you treat an incongruence with your identity/assigned gender
Being trans is having a gender different from the one you were assigned. These aren’t the same thing
Also I’m both transexual and non binary, I get dysphoria from both aspects of this
I love not understanding any of this, it makes me feel successful
you are so lucky
you are so so lucky
hahaha the pepo and the name. perfect
@@chloegrobler4275 Haha! Ableism is so funny, bro!!
@@chloegrobler4275 retard and gay need to make a comeback. They are such fun words to call friends
@@theobell2002 unironically yes.
Ever since I've made an effort to be part of the LGBTQ community for the last 6 years, these are the most discussed and thought on topics I've had, though not always to the extent I truly wanted to in the past because of respect to trans friends. I'm very excited for this manifesto.
This is pretty fascinating to see where this manifesto goes
Seeing all these Chad trans commentors givs me hope
You can be Trans without Disphoria?! I guess im kinda out of the loop here, but I always just assumed you needed to have dysphoria to be trans to begin with. How can you be Transgender if you don't feel like you are in the wrong body? Like I thought that was like the entire idea of being Trans. Can someone please explain to be how someone without disphoria is different than simply pretending to be the other gender? :Post thought, If not, then how are conservatives not literally correct?
They can’t because it doesn’t make sense.
They can’t be trans and since they’re not trans and do not have dysphoria they just make up their own definition of what being trans is. Who knows why they do this. To be part of a minority? Feel control over their life? Feel special? Conservatives aren’t right since they’re dismissing all trans experience and just lump us together. They don’t have to, the information is out there but they’ve already made up their mind about us so it doesn’t matter.
destiny prior argued that he himself doesnt really identify as male and assumed that people similar to him could exist that dont really feel inner turmoil over their genderidentity while still feeling they are the opposite gender somewhere within.
now it seems like he switched to the more nuanced position that these kind of people are by a huge margin less likely to care enough about a transition to exist in any substantial number, and people falsely identifying as such harm the actual important trans discourse.
@@Observette It does make sense. You can be trans but not care about your gender expression that much that you have disphoria over it. How is this so hard to understand? It can be just an annoyance and not disphoria.
@@RanEncounter but then you wouldn't be trans, you'd simply feel no disphoria over your gender ,but FEEL more feminine or masculine. Feeling extra feminine or masculine doesn't make you trans.
I’ve always felt that non binary and trans shouldn’t be seen as the same thing. Because it’s not the same and shouldn’t be under the same label. It’s confusing for normies and disrespectful towards trans women and men. I’m getting really sick of how everyone is just agreeing because they’re afraid of the backlash.
Non-binary people experience dysphoria too, but the problem is that it's become political, kind of like how "politically lesbian" was a thing for radical feminists. Most people just identify as nonbinary because they want to be different :/
@@sentientskittle8807 citation needed!
all non binary are trans, not all trans are non binary. think of it that way
@@chloegrobler4275 Actually, you can be cis and non-binary, but it's very rare and only really happens if the newborn baby is intersex in some way! Also, what citation do you need?
@@sentientskittle8807 "Most people just identify as nonbinary because they want to be different :/" that is just an opinion. if you had preempted the statement with: "I feel like" or "I think" then fine but I don't think you can make a statement like that soo loosely
How can you be trans without dysphoria? What am I not understanding here?
Being trans is having a gender identity that is different from your assigned gender. Gender dysphoria is an incompatibility with your assigned gender and gender identity.
Basically they don’t have to be compatible/result in dysphoria to be different. This is mainly a thing for non binary people tho
@@ellewilliams5162 Thank You 😊
ty for the voice destiny, hope he continues sharing. THIS is the real shit
sincerely, trans and tired of this shit
Guess I'll make this about me lol. But this is super similar to the African American/black convo back when I was younger.. I hate being called african American.. But white ppl listened to a minority of black ppl and now white ppl get to be the default American lol
I feel like while dysphoria is a huge thing in telling if someone is acctualy trans, but I also think that their is a point where if someone feel so much better identifying and presenting and being seen as a woman that even if they dont transition it wont nessarly make them depressed or worse off, but if they did they would still be a whole lot happier in life on genral nad more productive and I think its a good thing to support these people as well. That doesn't include people who just feel happy from cross dressing and stuff like that.
It depends, you can really tell by the person. Its really not hard to tell if someone has mild dysphoria and is doing things that make them feel better or if they're just doing it because that's where attention and clout is at right now.
Isn't that just mild dysphoria?
@@SubtleHawk no I'm more specificly talking about people who wouldn't feel depressed if they didn't transition but would still live a better and happier life if they did
@@Meishta Yeah I'd call that a very mild form of dysphoria. Like when you have a benign tumor or something.
how do they know they will feel better? (they don't) often it's just a sense it's easier being the opposite sex. The grass appears greener. Just think about how people describe what they think it will be like and you see.
Many people end up disappointed bc they could not possibly have known.
This is something I feel all the time. I just don't know if I agree with the idea that you can be a woman or a man, because you just say you are.
Yeah I think some very basic performance criteria are needed at the very least
You can’t. Those that say you can are just in denial.
i would say nobody can 'be' any gender. its just a fucking social role. wake me up when trans people are talking about their biology in focus instead of doing this dumb roundabout gender shit. I'm trans btw.
Gender identity is something that can be expressed as early as language is developed. This is true in both cis and trans kids.
As someone else pointed out gender expression also exists, but we have moved to a point where identity is also a factor in what gender someone is at least for a lot of people
Watching this on my 20th birthday 🥳
I’ve always used transexual for trans people with dysphoria/who seek medical transition and transgender as a broader “gender doesn’t match sex”
those feel like completely different discussions to me
I agree, but most people don’t like the term transexual so I only apply it to myself, but a distinction is useful. I’m both transexual and non binary though lol
The man who coined the term transexual didn't define transness through medical transition, but the way we talk about gender incongruency today.
A growing term is transsex, which makes it sound less like homosexual and more like intersex, which is really where it should lie, as it’s about your sex characteristics, not your genitals
Maybe Destiny has talked about this in the past and I just missed it. But does he take any steps to "ensure" these people are real and not just making up stories?
There are many verifiable stories. Lookup tavistock clinic or partners for ethical care
As trans person, based on the transmedicine definition, I see no problem calling people who are a cross between a woman and a man as trans.
It is in the definition.
I mean I still call bisexual people lesbian/gay.
It is not a huge deal.
I think we are just bitching about words at this point.
I mean it is not like someone here is claiming that having dysphoria and not having dysphoria is the same.
It is more important to handle the people who are actual transphobes than dealing with this pointless topic.
What about straight people who claim to be bisexual just for attention ? I think that is the best metaphor.
@@TheOsamaBahama Like who cared?
Thanks for the vid
Just be who you are.
None of this makes any sense to me.
I feel like the word "trans" is just overly generic and trying to find one label to describe all these different identities is kind of rude.
The biggest mistake you can make is listening to chat telling you where you can attack an enemy.
Is destiny going to accept the agp pill
it's pretty much inevitable...bc it's true. I didn't want to believe it but honestly AGP-denial is actually harmful to people who suffer from it and actually want to understand/get help
Agp?
@@tigerfestivals5137 autogynephilia. Some people self-id as AGP but some activists are ashamed of it and harass them/deny it exists. Including some of the more prominent youtubers like Contra
Ironically these are also the most public activists for "trans rights" harassing other trans people and denying their experiences.
@@tigerfestivals5137 It's nonsense created by a chaser to shame trans women that didn't want to fk him.
@@secularjihadi agp isn’t really accepted in the same way being trans is. People who self id as such tend to have a lot of internalised transphobia, and if you apply the same criteria to cis women there is virtually no difference.
Oh boy! Can’t wait for some takes that definitely aren’t going to be repeated from before
@@Thworped I think changing his opinion on trans medicialism is pretty huge and he definitely going to have a lot of debates about this if it comes to light
I can probably come on but your position _has_ indeed shifted since last time I talked to you. (On trans sports) So idk, it would be interesting ig.
Destiny manifesto when
What a surprise.
What does he hope to achieve with this“manifesto”?
world domination
Rise of the daliban
Chaos
@@nonstickpansexual4540 c o n t r o l
Destiny…pump some damn stats into vigor so you don’t die in 1 shot. Most people go for 40 vigor
First
this feels like such a america centric topic, hope this doesnt swap over to the motherland europe in any meaningful way.
are you familiar with an island to your north
wdym, these alarmist trends were a thing in latinamerica about 5 years after it blew up. it's just a matter of time before the world is consumed by madness and this isn't Sparta!
@@silverhawkroman yeah this is a global phenomenon. If anything Americans are shielded more than the rest of the Anglosphere at least bc of the first amendment. But we are exporting gender confusion aggressively to places where women don't even have easy access to menstrual pads and are already so devalued for their sex they are intentionally aborted on that basis (this is why there's such sex imbalance in India, for example.
But some Daughter-in-law living in literal Cinderella-like slavery somewhere is being told she's privileged bc she's "cis"
@@secularjihadi i feel this way about the whole gender thing in the first place. sex not working for you fine I get that but because the world doesn't see you as one arbitrary social role verses another does seem like American nonsense the more I look at it. it seems like a weird obfuscation of things.
it's a complicated topic
but people wanna oversimplify it while screamin pick a side
all they know and say is "trans women are women" which is better than sayin trans people are groomers but come on
I think the problem with basing trans-ness on dysphoria is that it's defining a condition by symptoms rather root cause, despite the root cause being available. While not perfectly analogous, it seems very similar to claiming Ben Carson isn't black because he hasn't been unfairly arrested enough or because he had too much wealth in his family growing up.
Now admittedly, groups like the APA switching to the term "gender dysphoria" rather than "gender identity disorder" doesn't help, since that blurs the line between a related condition and its main symptom, and worse one most people don't know the meaning of. However, that's not going to be fixed to any benefit without much harder and more tenacious issues being fixed.
So there are two bad things about being trans, which are separate: gender dysphoria, and transphobia. If we said that only trans people who have experienced transphobia are trans, or that rich trans people aren’t trans, or that trans people who had easy access to healthcare aren’t trans, that would be stupid (and sounds similar to the Ben Carson thing). But gender dysphoria, and wanting to medically transition, is a different thing, and is what makes someone actually trans. If you have someone who is fine with their body, doesn’t want to medically transition, but just likes to wear makeup and change their pronouns, that is so fundamentally different from someone who has dysphoria, hates their body, and wants to medically transition, that it isn’t at all the same thing.
@@apollo6326 I agree that those are different situations, but that's still ignoring the root difference compared to the rest of the population. Does it actually make sense to define someone based on a thing they currently want? If so, then that would mean that a trans person starts being a trans person when the feeling starts and stops being a trans person when they get what they want.
Your point fell apart in the earliest part of your thesis, you absolutely define a condition by it's symptoms and not the root cause. In what world do we define cancer via radiation, pollution and carcinogens. Your neuanced ideationary dogma is piffle you pseudointellectual dunce
At what point do you call someone trans? Is socially transitioning not enough? For example if someone didn't have dysphoria but felt a strong preference to change their gender expression, can they not be considered transgender? Where does it turn from preference to dysphoria?
yea. " if someone didn't have dysphoria but felt a strong preference to change their gender expression," this is exactly me atm. I am not transiting due to reasons but if I had ease of access to it I would do it if I could.(Even though I do not THINK I am the opposite gender) I personally wouldn't see an issue with this but some people do and am trying to understand where that perspective is coming from
If someone would want to medically transition but can’t for whatever reason, that’s not their fault and they are still trans. But if someone just wants to change their gender expression? Yeah that’s not trans. You can be GNC (gender non-conforming), that doesn’t make you trans.
Play FFXIV and talk to any Viera player, theyre literally all trans.
It's concerning af. Americans could face an existential threat to democracy and never see anything past their own bullsh*t.
damn this is sad
i get that enby voices arent seen as trans enough to really have a place at the table but i find the idea that the only trans experience (or the only one that should be centered) is the passing/stealth straight trans person pretty disheartening. there are many ways trans people can exist including being unable to pass or having a gender that isnt capable of passing and that shouldnt be villified because other trans people prefer/are capable of being stealth. i guess i dont see why we cant all discuss our experiences as unique and valid instead of fighting over who should be at the table
why do enby people need to be involved in conversations about people with gender dysphoria
I am a very gender nonconforming woman but that does not make me a non-woman, I have never found an explanation of being NB that wasn't just internalized sexism
@@secularjihadi well considering i am trans, have dysphoria, and am actively working to transition, this conversation affects me directly and harms me as people actively try to erase my experience. i dont think nonbinary people should automatically be dismissed because others assume they arent trans
@@ollie5078 conversations about gender involve claims about everyone, including cis people. such as claims about what makes a "man" and "woman" and what makes someone not a woman. This has real world consequences. For instance, males self-ID into female prisons and rape shelters now in much of the Western world. There is no way to verify whether a self-ID is real or not. There have been sexual assaults by these same males.
@@ollie5078 the problem you are facing is Transgender has encompassed both Dysphoric and non dysphoric individuals. Transsexuals and Transgender people are different, with the latest discourse people have conflated the two. the former deals with dysphoria and the like while the latter is more fitting to those that feel distress based on social input, not internal. These two are fundamentally different, and that's why people are getting angry about nonbinary people joining the conversations. Theres also a level of dysmorphia we ignore pertaining to either of these words, but, to answer your question in full. People who believe in trans medicalism (distinction between sex and gender) view these people as poisoning the well for positive discourse concerning "truetrans", i tend to agree since it basically allows the conservative talking point of "you chose this lifestyle" to actually be valid for a large swath of those claimants.
@@secularjihadi I am both transexual and non binary. What do?
I've never understood the "identifying as a gender". Like I am the collection of my life experiences and memories. Every time someone tells me something like identifying as a gender I feel like they took the equation A(life events)+B(being a gender)=C(identity) and turned it into B=C making it feel like they discount all of their life and memories and relate it all to being their gender. Then you get all the nature vs nurture debaters around the whole thing and it turns into a giant clusterfuck.
I mean seriously though, I can recognize my life would be different if I were a girl, but there is no possible way to identify or understand how it would feel to actually be a girl or how it would have changed my life. This is almost the definition of delusional thinking, and it reminds me of listening my schizophrenic uncle. This isn't to say we should persecute these people, but we shouldn't pretend that it is healthy or desirable for society.
People have a sense of self in terms of gender, and yes it is possible to know you don’t fit into your assigned gender and associate with a different gender more.
You can learn how other people feel speaking to them
@@ellewilliams5162 How would you know? People have vastly different experiences and feelings of self within the same gender. Even my brothers experience of being male is vastly different than mine.
If it comes down to personal feelings, how do you differentiate a real feeling of dysphoria from a delusion? In the US, the rate of transgenderism and the rate of schizophrenia is pretty similar. What methodology would we use to figure out who is delusional, who is real, and who is taking advantage of the system?
@@Puzzlesocks I agree, there are trends though, and you can certainly tell if this is something you have lived with.
The only person calling this a delusion is you, this is not the opinion of medical professionals.
Children both trans and cis can express gender identity as early as communication skills develop, why is one of these valid because it matches sex?
Taking advantage of what system? What are you talking about?
As someone who is trans and had experienced gender dysphoria from an early age, transitioning was the only way to treat this.
I spent years in the closet, in the end I had to accept who I was. I know you aren’t going to understand that though
A lot of things are also feelings, how do you know what your sexuality is for example? Are you sure your not just delusional? What makes those feelings valid? See how this works?
Comparing this to things like schizophrenia is incredibly unhelpful and no respected psychiatrist would do such a thing. It’s almost like the underlying psychology, and treatment for these things is entirely different.
@@ellewilliams5162 None of that answers any of my questions. Are you implying that any time someone has these feelings of dysphoria that it is always valid?
As for my sexuality, I thought I was straight until I had my first girlfriend, then I thought I was gay. Turns out I just don't really enjoy sex and my attraction to people was mainly based off feelings of insecurity. Was I straight, then gay, then asexual? Or is it more likely that I was always asexual and I used my experience gained through life and knowledge I gained to properly recognize that I was always asexual? The important part is that I could not only be taught about it. I had to experience life to know for sure, just as much as I had to eat broccoli to know I enjoy the taste. I don't know how to experience being a woman, or even how to experience being a man. The very basis of how those experiences are viewed rely on stereotypical assumptions about what a woman or man (as far as gender) can be, which I don't prescribe to.
The schizophrenia remark is not to correlate the two, but to point out that a similarly sized population to the trans community also exists and is very vulnerable to delusional thinking. This makes separating the two important, otherwise you are risking severe harm to another population to potentially help your own. Are you suggesting that if it helps the trans community that you are willing to intentionally put into place systems that will hurt other communities? Including communities that are arguably in a worse spot than trans people such as schizophrenics?
As for your own questions, I never said nor implied that straight is the only valid gender identity. The systems I am referring to could be using gender identity to get out of the draft, getting sent to a different prison, profiteering off others, or being used as a token for representation as a few examples.
I can tell I am not delusional by confirming my thoughts and ideas against physical reality and using peer review for confirmation. So if I am delusional, it means that the rest of the world is delusional in the same way and therefore no one is. You just need to ask the right questions and do the right tests to verify accurately. If you can not ask questions or verify with tests, then the only option left is faith, which makes trans ideology no more factually sound than the holy spirit or ghosts.
I know this is 2 years old but everything you said is exactly how I see it too. I've never heard good evidence for or "felt" gender identity. I'm a "cis" woman, but can't tell you what being a woman is like, only what being me is like. Every single person is a combination of masculine & feminine physical traits, behaviors, thoughts & feelings. It's up to you how to express yourself, but at the end of the day, you still have to pick one. If you're a grown adult & you still haven't figured out who or what you are that is a mental problem. I find it hilarious that females have a higher tendency to identify as nonbinary. Just goes to show how dimorphic we actually are. Trying to debunk the sex or gender binary is the biggest grasp at straws.
Some trans medicalists would even go so far as to say that you need to change your body to be trans
Well yeah? I mean you at least have to want to, obviously not everyone has access to but I don't see how it's controversial to say if you don't want to change your body at all, you're not trans.
@@savannaha5038 I'm a year late, but isn't that transexualism? Gender is a social construct.
The one thing I'd like to see discussed is the economic impact of gender-ideology(the existence of gender is not falsifiable, due to its unclear definition). I'm pretty sure society isn't willing to bear the costs the 10-fold increase in number of "trans-folks" that is projected for the currently youngest generation.
It's not like I want to determine what individuals do with their life, but the truly absurd number of "trans kids" actually has the potential of ending a country's capacity for societal organization...
Don't worry, once the majority is trans and Nb it won't be cool anymore and the David Bowie's of the world will be clean cut guys in suits and women in dresses.
@@Poorleeno , alternatively we'll get some nasty reactionist governments that ban the whole thing outright. I trust non of us want that...
As much as I agree with Destiny on most topics, he definitely does create an echo chamber, like most people online, he can say "people accuse me of that" all he wants, but it's the truth.
I engaged a lot with the youtube community and a good emount of the time I got hundreds of replies/likes, a couple times more than a thousand.
And then after Jan 6th I said that the rioters were lucky to have rioted in the US today, as in most other countries in history they would've been probably tried for treason or put against a wall right there and then.
That was the spiciest thing I've ever said on his channel and ever since I got exactly zero replies or likes for any comment, so he, or August or whoever is in charge of moderating the comment section banned me from participating.
I even went on Discord to reach out to the youtube mods and they just said "youtube is too complicated for us to do something about it".
Lmao, sure buddy. Blame destiny for your low effort engagement, TH-cam doesn’t even have that functionality. Your comments just aren’t that good.
I'm not sure that's even a thing, it's far more likely that : a. Nobody saw your comment by pure chance b. Your comment was too long and therefore ignored or c. Your comment contained an offsite link or set of words that triggered TH-cam's auto moderation to suppress or delete it. This has happened to me several times, it's not the choice of the channel owner but rather of TH-cam itself
@@tigerfestivals5137 nope, nothing like that, I never changed the way I engaged, I never posted any links or novels or whatever.
After around the 12th of January there was all of a sudden zero engagement.
My comments also don't show up in the youtube live chat anymore.
I even created a second test account on youtube to check if I can see my actual account's comments and they are simply not showing since then.
@@un4893 dude, I don't know what I should tell you, I can literally show you my old comments via screenshare and you'll not be able to see them on your side.
I'm more than happy to prove it, just let me know how you want to do it.
@@tigerfestivals5137 is this normal for you people? Jesus
"Your a fox News watcher" doesn't he cite and follow like every leftist mainstream media source?
17:42 well that’s the whole problem isn’t it?
Natural born males wanting to be women and vice versa.
But just because I respect your pronouns doesn’t mean I actually believe it. I’m just trying to not cause a scene.
And IMO the very label “trans” woman, is a tacit admission by even progressives that people don’t really believe it.(that trans woman are women and vice versa)
"And IMO the very label “trans” woman, is a tacit admission by even progressives that people don’t really believe it."
No? It's an admission that the experience and life of a trans woman will be different from that of a cis woman. It's a different _category_ of woman, not that you don't believe it's not real.
No sane medical professional would ever tell an anorexic person that they are fat and should keep dieting. No sane medical professional would ever tell a body dismorphic person that they should go ahead and amputate their limbs. No sane medical professional would ever tell a schizophrenic person that the voices are real and they should do what they say. So why, WHY THE FUCK would any sane medical professional ever tell a teenage girl "yeah go ahead and chop your tits off" or "take experimental drugs and castrate yourself". I've been trying to understand this trans trend for over a year now and I still cannot wrap my head around this. This is a wall I simply cannot climb. This shit is just so obvious and insane to me. It makes me sick that we as a society have fully endorsed mutilating confused, hormonal teenagers and are encouraging people to build their lives around mental dysfunction and false perceptions of themselves. WTF is wrong with us?
I think is because you are seeing transition as the cure, and i understand why you are mislead, most terminally online people make transition look like some happy dappy thingy, but in reality the reason some doctors recommend transition is that, in some cases the gender disphoria is so bad that transition is the most closed treatment, because they could do a 41%, of course there is a debate now if these practices are being pushed by social pressure instead of medical recomendation.
@@spinosaurusstriker cosmetic surgery to solve an underlying mental illness should be a last, last, LAST resort. It should take years at a minimum of therapy and treatment before any surgeon signs on to it. The fact that girls as young as 13 are having their breasts removed is utterly sick. Imagine living in a society where it was normal for 15 year old girls to get breast implants. That is the world we live in now, just in reverse. I'm an atheist but i rather go back to religious dogma controlling culture than go on living in a society that encourages teens to castrate and mutilate themselves. This is circumcision and FGM on steroids and we aren't even allowed to point it out.
@@Alaric11 no sane person agree that Kids should transition, even destiny agrees with that, so there is not really a debate here.
@@spinosaurusstriker That is a straight up lie. Activists all over the country are transitioning kids.
It’s almost like these are different things with different treatment plans.
Also psychiatrists don’t believe it is a false perception