TIED! 2021 Lexus RCF Track Edition vs BMW M3
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
- 2021 Lexus RCF Track Edition vs 2021 BMW M3 review by The Straight Pipes. The Lexus RC-F Track Edition is pumping out 472hp and 395 lb-ft tq from a 5L V8, while the BMW M3 Manual is putting down 473hp and 406 lb-ft tq from a Twin Turbo 3L Inline 6. Would you pick the Lexus RCF Track Edition over the BMW M3?
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M3 473hp????? It's 510. That's a error.
Why blur the km ? Im assuming that was what was being blurred @13:52
Yes this is good. But what is the Ford recommended vehicle for Jakub in this video? 🤔
“Both special in their own way” is what my mother used to say about my brother and me!
Nice timmy
step up your hat game partner
Yeah and one’s clearly better than the other 😳
But who was the better tho
@@ridgefrost E92 BMW M3
Couldn’t be happier with my RCF. Gonna hold onto it for as long as I can. Plenty fast for the streets and has the looks to match. Sure it might be a tad slower than the competition but it’ll also be on the road twice as long.
You'd be crazy to spend $120k on a Lexus and not get a LC500
Fr, the RCF track edition definitely won’t sell as well when compared to a LC500
I’d easily take the rcf over a lc500. The LC is huge and crazy heavy
Lc500 still isn't worth it 😭😂
I agree. Unless you’re constantly racing your going to the track. The lc500 is far sexier
@@yajae26 totally different car though. It's a GT car. And well it's also one of the best looking cars on sale right now
The engine sound on the RCF kills the M3 in everyday ownership.
Yuri shouting out the Chevy SS bought a tear to my eye. Rip Holden. 🇦🇺🇦🇺
Yesssss
Same here mate, makes me proud to be an Australian petrolhead
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@@QKvox Lumina SS and Ute SS in South Africa...
@@TheStraightPipes yall need to review one, drone angles were dope too
I would (and did) choose the RCF. NA V8 and 3-5 years from now everything will still work. Lexus quality throughout.
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4S, Cup2, Cup2R, Corsa or Trofeo R ... nothing else matters. For BMW 4S * == win.
Honestly love the design and reliability of the Lexus and the character of BMW. They are special in their own ways.
If I had money to buy one of them, I would take RCF. RCF seems to be more luxurious and although RCF might be little slower on tracks, it has V8 and is distinctive
Definitely RCF... well could be a little better if it has a touchscreen, and perhaps an updated design
I don’t know. It’s hard to justify paying that much for such an old dated platform
luxurious? never bro. lexus rarely introduces any sort of that (technology wise). thus they do have a great sound👌🏽
@@BrownNProud781 Lexus ES350 have the best interior
I’m terms of luxury, keep in mind they compared the top of the line RCF vs the bottom of the line M3. You can get an M3/M4 Comp with better seats/leather, lots of carbon fiber, and even more power and performance than the RCF track edition all for about the same price.
My guess is they did the best they could to line up an RCF track Edit ok with an M3, and this was the best they could get instead of getting a top of the line, fully loaded M3/M4 which would be a better comparison.
The Lexus is soooo appealing
Lexus' F Lineup is basically Luxury Drift Car.
Also, Lexus really need to make Next Gen F Cars. The current gen Fs are relatively ancient.
As a lexus fan, I agree.
But the M's are easier to drift and have more luxury-oriented features
The rc is getting a 2nd gen in 2024
@@noahgarcia7599 That would be sweet. Do you have a source?
Yes
I hope they'll use the twin turbo V8 they were developing in the RC-F
2URGSE motor is amazing. Came out on the 08 ISF and still on production.
V8 or Straight 6...Man both are great...but the v8 sound sounds so real and the straight 6 sounds like NFS Underground from the 2000's
I agree with u dude🤘🏾😂💯
Oh hmm I thought the V8 sounded synthetic. Everyone hears things a little differently I suppose! Like you said, both are a great choice.
@@curtr.5083 I agree with you it doesn’t have that roar/rumble that a aggressive V8 sound should have
Lexus reliability tho😍
The lexus is naturally aspirated too, throw on a supercharger. And not only is it wayy faster but cheaper than the m3
M3 obv has crazy numbers but gotta side with the RC here. Looks, NA V8, decent tech, and we would all feel way more comfortable with that car after 40,000 miles. Great vid!
decent tech vs that big ass ultrawide panel on the m3... Also reliability from a s58 vs a v8 is not even comparable
@@blocksource4192 who's tell you the b58!isn't reliable? It's the best straight 6 built today
@@papermaker85 What im saying is that its super reliable. He said hes not comfortable with an m3 after 40,000 miles, but they are super reliable when treated nicely
@@blocksource4192 he owned a s58 or s55?
@@papermaker85 No the commentor is just speaking out of their ass (original commentor)
You guys must really love your job right now🤣
Very much
@@TheStraightPipes if I had job like you guys I’d never not love it.
@@TheStraightPipes I'm glad you're enjoying it, that's a pretty hard job you guys are doing, thank you!
The crazy thing is I searched for the Rcf track edition on this channel just yesterday and I didn’t see it. Now somehow the next day you guys post a Rcf track edition video; just crazy.
Anyone else thought the drone shadow was a bug running across your screen?😂😂
M3
I'm not alone it look like 🤣
Lol yup
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When does it do that?😂
M3 wins but love the uncompromising RCF! Greetings from Germany ✌️
Those drone shots getting real good 😎👌🏻
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"They both have the exact same taillights, oddly enough" mind = blown
I'll take the RCF Track Edition because of the normally aspirated V8. It's a Lexus so it'll hold its value and last forever. This will be a rare collector's car.
11:00 help me out here guys; the manual has Launch Control?!
I guess it just let's you stay in the peak HP range with full throttle. Might save a millisecond as you don't need to adjust your right leg after dropping the clutch.
It builds boost and holds revs
Oh hi! You're here! Probably it is the soft limiter launch though.
Mustang GT350 (manual only) also has this feature, it holds RPM’s for you and you can set it to whatever rpm is allows in settings
Manual scat packs get launch control too
Just had this decision to make myself It was between the M4 comp and RCF . I went for the g82 , it feels nicer inside, easier to live with and better tech. Not an easy decision to make that V8 is awesome
Don't worry you'll have plenty of fun with the G82 M4. I've driven it on track, it's still an incredibly fun sports car.
Better trade it before the warranty expires.
@@ae747sp5 the people who buy those cars don’t care about that especially the enthusiast
U made the right choice bro 💯
@@ae747sp5 People who can afford these G series M cars don't give a shit about that lol
RC F since that V8 will last forever!
No it won’t....it’s a car. All mechanical things break
I'll take that rc f any day of the week 😤
@Jonathan Losito driving feel wise too. N/A over Forced Induction any damn day
@@vedantawasthi5410 Manual vs Shitty Transmission any day
@Joseph C. No it isnt.I have not driven any new manuals of BMW yet but Carfection, Henry ,Chris Harris , Joseph , Yuri and Jacub and many other journalists have said it is a great transmission maybe not as good as Japenese( like Type R ,etc) but anyway it is better than the automatic transmission in Lexus.
@Joseph C. they are ok reliable plenty of them run nurburgring for years, but if you compare it to a honda then there is no saying
nah e92 m3 is the better handling v8 tho
I just realized that both you guys and Speed Academy did a BMW vs Lexus comparison. What a coincidence.
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@@TheStraightPipes I'm just watching the Speed Academy M5 Wagon & Supercharged Lexus LS430 build finale and there you are! Nice.
"Stacked duals? That's definitely a W" is the statement of 2021 so far.
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RC F Hands down, it will live a long beautiful reliable 25 yrs on the road melting tires and tearing up the interstate. The pos m3 will be trash in less than 5 yrs. No contest.
the flying drone shots were sick
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Am I the only one who expected Jakob to be in the Lexus and Yuri to be in the BMW?
I dont think Yuri could handle the manual shift m3 on the track.
Jakob is the car guy of the two. No way would he be in the automatic Lexus when there’s a manual M3 as an option.
Yeah Yuri talked mad shit on the GSF and even the ISF. Jakob kept bringing those reviews back to a positive note every time.
@@russsafonin9873 You right, you right. I only thought he would’ve been in the Lexus, cause he had a Lexus.😂
Yeah Jacob said he has/had an ISF.
Looks: RCF
Performance: M3
Interior: RCF
Technology: M3
Value: M3
Cool Factor: RCF
Probably buy the RCF because everybody else has a BM.
Keep those drone shots going, they make your show even more professional.
Automatic: RCF
Manual: M3
RCF Performance package with TVD won for me as a daily driver.
And it will last forever
As BMW fanboys, im jealous of lexus because it's goodlooking, reliable, powerful and can run last forever. That lexus so stunning unlike the BMW 😌 so ugly 🤮. I hope BMW smaller the grill
A v8 as a daily driver? Your fuel costs are probably more than the car note haha
RCF loses out because of the dated tech imo. One thing is does have standard are ventilated seats, which is nice. The transmission is also something that's fairly lack-luster.
@@Anthony_L It's not that bad really. My commute is all local roads, and while my old '04 4cyl Camry got a little over 20mpg my RC F gets about 17. Many people drive large SUVs and trucks as their daily and they get similar gas mileage or worse.
the way the lexus bounces off the rev limiter is so unique , on savage geese they talked about it!
That RC-F wins hands down with the naturally-aspirated free-revving v8...
Sounds sublime.. 😎👍🏼
Got the RC-F in my driveway right now for testing purposes, so I'll get back to you in about a week... 😉👍🏻
Reliability is the winner in the long run.
You guys and Savagegeese, are the best and entertaining car reviewers on TH-cam. 🙏👍
Difference between the two is by the time they're old enough to be afforded by the average person, one will be in a junk yard or falling apart while the other is still going strong ;)
H8r
I can afford one right now. If you’re buying a 66k+ car you can afford the maintenance. And FYI I drive a Toyota
@@VividFizzy maintenance doesn't correct for planned failure
@@Sk3L370R sure man, if that’s how you want to frame the argument. All I’m saying is when you can afford it its not a problem. Buy something at your price point. We are all at different points in their life, some people can afford different things
@@VividFizzy You clearly didn't read my comment about when they're OLD enough for the AVERAGE person to afford. It's not just maintenance though either, its also having a strong resale value which Lexus/Toyota's are known for. Any rich person who wants to remain rich would care about this. People who blow their money on junk never stay wealthy for long.
4:05 Yuri is already sounding like he has more than one kid 😂
I’d choose the Lexus so I could straight pipe it and listen to the exhaust and thunderous downshifts! Plus it’s unique
*you could ask for a downshift from a TCU. In M3 you can downshift.
@@DuBstep115 m3 sounds like a lawn mower, no thunder.
And get gapped.
I’d take the Lexus in a heartbeat. Reliability is important to me.
I love spindle grilles so the RCF absolutely wins looks wise.
Lexus shows BMW how to make big grilles look GOOD.
They're both hideously ugly cars, so you both have shit taste in design. The standard 3 series looks far better, as do the current audi RS models, especially.thr RS6 Avant.
@@TheNondiscriminatory sure bud
That Freudian slip lmao! "They drif-- drive the same."
Glad you guys are having fun, keep it up!
That RCF is unreal!! and I bet in the long run will be more appreciated in the future
Agreed
The V8 plus the look guarantees it alone, not to mention the strong fan base. Forsure worth keeping
Lexus F cars are so nice. Hope to get a GSF soon!
A slightly used RcF non track edition is my choice
Me too, that's the goal
Bought a 15 last year over the M4 and happy I did! Hope you find one too.
update i want a gsF lol
@@Aziz_ao lol wtf hahahah
@@Aziz_ao got a 15 RCF but damn I do want a GSF
The real problem with the Track Edition is the price. It works great as a daily/track car, but for that much money you could easily by an older RCF and upgrade everything.
ngl i love the way the rcf looks
I was so torn. I love these cars and really wanted an m3 or rs5 then I then I stared to learn a bit about the rcf. I’m not rich, live a normal life and know how to turn a wrench. I went with the rcf because I got a used for for the price of a new mustang , 40k. It has cost me tires and brakes, a few mods. I love it. I don’t think I would have been able to easily afford a m3, maintenance, parts, etc. I think a used RCF is the best way to go and am so happy I chose it. If you’re thinking about one, do it! I think most people will love the rcf at the used price. I can’t image spending even 60k on a car who has that kind of money?
You forgot the most important point when talking about the price : Depreciation !
That m3 would be worth 30% of its sticker in 2 years while the rcf would easily maintain 80-90% of its value
Only because there barely any track editions made so its pretty irrelevant to even bring up depreciation.
Agreed RCFs used fall of a cliff just like the M3
When it's next to that RC F that M3 front end doesn't looks so heinous to me.
Heh...I feel just the opposite. I kinda like the Lexus front end, and will never find the BMW to be anything other than hilariously awful.
BMW M3
Lexus is now the pretty one, and BMW not really known for reliability.
"Not known for reliability" 😂 still living in 05? 😂
Chassis, perfect weight distribution, B58 and 6MT are too good to pass. Particularly due to having 4 doors and being almost $30k cheaper.
The LC500 is the Lexus to get if you want a two door. This RCF is the Lexus to get if you can’t afford an LFA but want the second rarest Lexus sports car.
S58, no?
lol how is this even comparable? M3 is just a better car. A four-door manual base model performs better in every way than this "Track Edition".
Only Americans and Canadians who for some reason think Lexus is comparable lol. Everywhere else the germans arent compared to Lexus
I do agree on this case, though I think that sweet V8 and reliability are worth something here. Just think the RCF is ugly and doesn't offer enough for the cost. Can't choose auto when there is a sweet stick available.
Lexus for the win in every aspect.
That bimmer broke down the moment this video was over 😂😂😂
Id take the RCF
“Let’s hear the BMW exhaust”
[broken vacuum cleaner]
“Ahhh yeah sounds good.”
😂
BMW doesn't sounds good???
I'll take the regular RC F! Can't really justify the Track Edition price jump :/
breaks cost 10k
Manual m3 able to beat the automatic RCF, imagine the auto m3
That's what really got me, I was like "there's no way this M3 is barely beating an RCF" and then they pan and show it's a manual. Might as well throw out the whole speed comparison because DCTs are faster than 99.9% of humans can shift. Plus even if you perfectly shift the M3 is just so consistent and quick. I 100% think that the reviewer that was driving it had a lot of driver error because the RCF is like almost half a second slower than the M3. 0-60 M3 is sub 4 at 3.8/3.9. DCT M3 would smoke the RCF.
@@justinnguyen3091 The new M3's don't use DCT anymore. They ditched that from the previous gen, but this new automatic trans in the Competition model is actually faster. The M3 competition (only automatic) will do 0-60 consistently on real road conditions in 3.5-3.6 seconds.
@@MClowe7 it’s a ZF8 speed which I’m surprised they switch to. ZF8 speeds are very fast and smoother than DCTs so I guess I shouldn’t be as surprised. DCTs did not like low speed driving. However the new G80 M3 will blow the doors off the RCF. We basically have to wait for the new IS-F because that’ll have 660HP Twin Turbo V8 which is gonna cost easily +100K facing the M6
RCF ftw more reliable and the v8 sounds soo good but dont get me wrong the m3 is super nice tho
M3 all the way!
I vote for the RCF although I would get a normal one in yellow
"Lexus fan boys with too much money" yep, spot-on. Unless you're a die-hard fan, choosing RCF over M3 has almost nothing to do with performance.
Ahem reliability
Love the RC-F.
RFC is sexy. I wouldnt get the track edition tho I prefer the deployable wing
the m3 looks good from the back... maybe not the front
After owning the RC F and the M5, BMW M5 is the one to drive. However, I kept the RC F for its reliability. When the M5 electronics went bad, it was tough to the wallet.
One depreciates 50% in like a year and the other one is a Lexus.
This is an M3 not an 330i. Real M cars don’t depreciation fast..
Show me an real MBmw at 50% price and I will buy and give some commission.
I would love either of these cars but any lexus with that 5.0 V8 is my dream car
rcf
I love that you guys actually take it to the track to test. You’ll never get 8/10 out of these cars on the road, legally
Please review the Lexus ES350🙏🙏🙏
The bmw interior designers really said: "It's nerf or nothing"
Hahaha! I Can't unsee that now!
RC-F
S58 is a dream. B58 with less than 1k in mods would compete with these 2 stock cars. Crazy.
Even with that grille, the M3 wins for me. Better all around package and much cheaper as well.
I don't Like BMW but I kinda like that grille and whole design of that
If u dare to drive that new M3 U will loveeeeeeeeeeee BMW forever
2:51 exact same tail light lol
The Canadian car channel competition is really showing in this video quality 10/10
That carbon fiber spoiler, idk man it just does it for me :D!
I know it’s not a popular consensus, but the new BMW 3 Series looks awesome with that grill.
Man, the cinematography is awesome
Right? It’s gotten so good.
Compared to something like hagerty they're really bad but as long as there's improvement they're doing something right
Thanks gentlemen I am saving for an RCF TE....the reliability is epic and BMW will never compare to the 0-maintenance of a Lexus!!
The drone camera work was awesome
Seriously that drone was hauling haha
If your not into "modifying" your vehicle and wanna good reliable, quick car the Lexus can't be beat (just regular RC-F). However if your like most enthusiasts, stock power is never going to be enough! Thats where the bimmer has the clear advantage with the added twin hair dryers and forged internals! Just a simple tune will easily net ya 650hp +!!! It would cost a fortune to make similar power in the Lexus! With that being said the bimmer has my vote 👍
Yeah...this is what we want...fantastic beasts...
Drag races are needed in the channel
Was watching your video on Electric Mustang when notification for this video pops up. Today is gonna be a good day!
never knew how much i needed this video until i clicked on it
When it comes to tuning the M3 dominates even more.
Lexus RCF RR Supercharged can push for 850bhp when it comes to tuning.
@@GMEv1suals yes but this is beyond just tuning
Drone work was insane. You guys have officially made it. You can go out for drinks now. My vote is for the RCF. The cost doesn't scare me because you're not just buying a monster of a track car that sounds and drives like it does, you're also getting toyota quality. BMW may be cheaper and may win at drags, but that RCF will be around much longer with fewest problems than the Beemer. Sorry, Germany.
The m3/m4 is just so much better in almost every way
Nothing cool about a Lexus.... and the sales show it
If you’re buying performance you’re buying German (European) ....or American
At least buy German, but American will only be able to drive straight (not even that) and overly sound loud
@@mls.design "American will only be able to drive straight" Forgets that C6 Z06 corvette had faster nurburgring time than 911 GT3 RS...
Lexus's spindle grill looking fine on any Lexus though. And I agree with Jakub, the RCF looks so good.
And now lets talk about quality durability and reliability
Yeh because the f82 wasn't reliable..oh wait it was lmao. Stop talking shit
@@blgn3502 according to savagegeese himself who has a renowned reliability kink
@@kristians2704 we have seen what bmw reliability is throughout the years. The car isnt significantly different from its previous generation and that alone proves my point
It is subjective based on what the buyer wants and its MY OPINION that one doesnt want to find something that they bought with high expectations fail and fall right infront of them in no time and at very low mileage...
It can leave you stranded in the middle of nowhere, if the cost of ownership is ofno issue to the buyer
Quality durability and relaibility are always a plus point when a consumer wants to buy any product.
@@blgn3502 not at all when compared to its japanese rivals.
Savageese is one of my favourite car reviewer on youtuber and we both stick with the same opinion.
Lexus with an aftermarket exhaust is amazing
Sadly I was a bmw fan boy but after my first m3 then getting the ISF I would take the F all day few cons but long term fun that V8 is nasty few mods. Not a booster car but then again same mileage isf had less cost to maintain and never left me stranded.