Same. If there's one thing I've learnt about Chris from his channel, other than that his wife loves him dearly (see the way she looks at him even with a camera in his hand) is that he's a stickler for thoroughness. He'd rather be last but with substance rather than first with nothing to say.
same - and "photographers" that actually use and review the camera for Photography aka Stills Photography and not Videography or Filmmaking, if i want to get top brass in cinecams i'd buy a RED ... but i want a compact STILLS camera and reviews that not only show the addon feature of being able to record video - but use it for its primary function - taking stills.
I wonder why you have avoided Reviewing Cameras till now. Your Lens reviews are the best but this review is up there with the best camera reviews. I think you should start doing this more. AWESOME.
@@christopherfrost I understand. I have to say, your findings and observations are unique and add value even though there are many detailed reviews available, Drop these gems once in a while
@@christopherfrost It is a little obnoxious, but I think it's to give the sensor enough light for the autofocus to work well. Still, it would sure be nice to get away from this soon. Maybe with the R1?
Why don't camera companies send you the review units or you just purposely don't want to? I mean, you're the first guy on TH-cam I would prefer for reviews.
I just bought the R5, it rocks!! What blows my mind is that I spent a month or two watching TH-cam videos and researching the camera and this video is just being recommended to me now! WTF TH-cam?!?!?!? My favorite reviewer doing the best review of the R5 and I'm just seeing it now!!?? I watched it twice! Great job as always Chris! You nailed it exactly (and then some)! Best reviews on YT!!
@@BlaxkNobility Or the person is just being responsible about how he/she uses money. Only quite few people have so much money that they don't need to give any thought about $2,5k ($3,4k in Europe) purchase.
There's a very good way to thank him for doing all this incredible work: by clicking on every single ad that you see on the channel :) He can't say it, but he gets a ton of money if we do so. Thanks mate! Keep up!
@@jan.tichavsky Full disclosure: I have so many reviews on TH-cam now that advertising does make an income for me. But like everyone else - I have bills and a mortgage to pay, and a new family to take care of :-)
@@christopherfrost Just subbed to your Patreon Chris. I'm Unemployed so I'm only on the $2 tier but I just felt the need to support what I consider to be the best reviews not only in photography, but possibly in any genre. I love your standardised testing format, the calm tone and subtle humour, the classic smooth jazz, and the constantly concise, earnest and both technical and artistic advice you add to your work. and then you test them on APSC/full frame/vice versa too?? I don't think I've ever bought a lens that you haven't tested. Also love the addition of suggestions for alternative lenses / items if you see an issue thats resolved by a competitor. You should be immensely proud of your work. If only every product category had a Christopher Frost.
I've seen a lot reviews about this camera but this was one of the better ones. Your mastery of photography and tech details is so good that you don't have to try so hard like a lot of other reviewers. Instead, you just pointed out the key features and issues. Nice work! Can't wait to put this camera to the test. One question: do you notice any appreciable difference in the color of images straight out of this camera compared to the EOS R?
Nice. You managed to talk about two features i didn’t know were in the camera and i have had mine since august 1 and called myself reading the manual. Interesting to know there is yet another IS problem too with a lens i own, as well! Thanks for the review.
Hi Christopher, as usual a great review which I used to help me make a decision back in the day. I have had the R 5 for 2 years, I wonder if you feel an updated review maybe a good idea now, in view of all the firmware updates that have hopefully addressed many of the issues, particularly as this is still very much a current model?
Great review Christopher. You brought some new details to light for me like the softness when using the fully mechanical shutter and the 1/8 stop aperture increments. 👌
Thanks for waiting a month to gather your thoughts for your review. I prefer this over straight-out-of-the-box type reviews, where the reviewers always seem overly excited and sometimes insincere. I think I'll be trading in my EOS R and buying an R5 to replace it, I'm so glad they got rid of the stupid multifunction bar and replaced it with a joystick! That was easily my biggest annoyance with the EOS R (I had a 5D MK2 prior to it). I'm mostly a stills shooter so the R5's shortcomings in video mode don't really affect me.
Thanks for the amazing review, been following you for many years now, very clear and concise, very pleasing review, your review gave me the confidence to finally sell my 5dmk4 and order the R5, really looking forward to using it for many years to come.
Hey, Chris. Have I ever mentioned how I love your calm and well balanced reviews? Thanks for that. I am glad got the R5; not because you will be testing RF lenses, but because you are owning such a great camera. Enjoy!
Yeah , not bad for a now 5 plus year old camera , the thing that comes to mind looking at all these camera reviews to me is that , all cameras have their strong and weak points , while it is easy to get carried away with the latest and greatest wizz bang models(and the grass is always greener .... ) , , if you have an old model that is still competent and with a good lens , you can still get great images and media . I look at some of the good photo`s i have taken with my A73 , and i see no reason too spend 4 or 5 grand , or 6.5 grand in this case on another new camera body , and then a lens or two and in my region that in all honesty is only going to give very fractional improvement in image quality for the most part unless you are a pro or blowing up to poster size to sell or pixel peeping .
Watching this review i guess CF is a photographer that does video as well which is like 90% of us and that's why we relate to his vids ..its seams 90% of youtubers are Videographers
I also already have the R5 for a few weeks and I am loving it. It's just an all around amazing photo camera. Are you planning to retest the sharpness of the RF lenses you have already covered on this higher resolution body?
Question- What is the better option for concert photography ? I shoot small venues such as rap concerts and solo shows. (dark environments) . The A7RV or Canon R5?
same here. I have the RP and 7D and didn't do much videos at all other than use RP as web cam. It's just much lighter to do video on cell phones. I think R5 or R6 will be my next buy...and the RF 70-200. I just love to have IBIS and it will make all my non stabilized canon fix lens much more useful. The 4K work flow is already time consuming. 8K will be a killer for my computer.
Just a great review . THANK YOU Christopher. I was buying the NIKON Z 7 2, but a 6 week wait just didn't cut it for me. My Sony 7 R stopped working and needed a new camera. I went to Adorama and was ready to just buy the NIKON , and was browsing around the Canon counter. Picked up the camera just for fun, as the price tag was prohibitive, and fell for it because of the ergonomics. I was trading in a lot of my equipment so it ended up costing me $1400. I must say the pictures are amazing. NOTHING to correct boost or sharpen. WOW. There are a lot of buttons I need to learn and functions but a little patience anything can be done.
Nice review Christopher. And the background music has me feeling like I'm in an old restaurant waiting for my pot of tea. I need to spend more time taking photos, but the EF 50 f1.2 on this camera is amazing. In video, when recording in temps of 65F or lower, I can filled up 328 GB CF cards and not even get an overheat warning.
Hey Chris - your review is actually the first "full" review ive seen so far - the others i watch (Jared Polin and Tony Northrup) all only focussed on the video features so far and are holding back their full review - yet im only interested in the "stills" part of the camera - while owning my 6Dmkii now for 2.5 years i never took a single video with it :D ... The only downside i see with the r5 is that its so prohibitivly expensive, clocking in a 4580$ here in switzerland (thats with the mandatory EF adapter), technically i could afford it but it feels very "wasty" - yet the R6 with its 20mp feels somehow... held back by the 20mp for a landscape photographer like me. I crop often, as in always, at least 20% and thats just format change... I hope that they will lower the price in a year or so to something reasonable. that said, this comment comes from a hobbyist and not someone that earns money with his photography, so my way of rating things is very different and price has a value of its own. Still greate review as always! I just hope one day youll show us how you do your focus char test on those 600mm lenses, or is your garden just so long? :-D
Lucky to have had it for five weeks already! I placed an order over six weeks ago and it looks like it will be Oct or Nov at the earliest before I receive mine. Great review, as always.
Hello, Christopher. Delighted to have discovered your videos via this outstanding and intelligent review of the R5, which I'm hoping to make my next EOS purchase. So many nuggets you point out which have added more conviction to that purchase. Among them, so happy to learn that Canon has graciously acknowledged the fact that occasionally we EOS shooters have occasionally chosen to purchase aftermarket lenses such as Sigma ART, by including optimization for such lenses. Also delighted to see demonstrated just how effective the IBIS is on the R5. This is such a USEFUL review, I plan to watch it again (as my birthday - READ: Excuse to purchase sooner rather than later - approaches). It is so welcome to view camera reviews that are reasoned and devoid of noisy hype. Also, I appreciated your good taste in your music background. Needless to say, I have subscribed, and will look forward to viewing more of your work.
Its the best camera I have ever used. If you shoot in ambient temps of 65 degrees F or less - you likely will never overheat the camera. Even in 8K. For long form recording I point a small and silent usb powered fan at the ports, and it will record in all modes forever that way. Even in ambient temps up to about 80 degrees F.
Are you absolutely sure about that? If so you should make a video to demonstrate it for everyone. Serious professional technicians have been looking into the issue and not been able to fix it...
Christopher Frost Photography Yes. I have personally tested it myself. Many others as well. Multiple posts with pictures of times on the Canon Rumors Discord. I have filled my 512GB Cf Express Card after shooting over one hour of 8k IPB Video in a 79 degree room, with a silent USB fan pointed at the ports. I have repeated this test many times. It also works with 4kHQ, and 4K 60. I shot 4 sequences of 4K 120 this way and stopped because who needs 30 total minutes or more of continuous 4K 120. Many others have not even needed the fan if they shoot in 70 degree F or cooler. See the Ordinary Filmmaker. This is all with firmware 1.1. Also the TH-cam channel No Life has posted his videos with a small fan essentially recording 8k forever.
Here's a thought about stabilization tests. Rather than just testing the maximum shutter speed of the camera, stabilized, and compare that to the reciprocal rule, also test the camera unstabilized. The reason for this is that you are assuming you will get a sharp image with the reciprocal rule shutter speed, which is often untrue on high megapixel cameras. For instance, say you are shooting on a 50mm lens. You find that, with stabilization, you get sharp images at around 1/25, so you conclude the camera has 1 stop of stabilization. However, if you were to test the camera unstabilized, you may find out that you only get sharp images at around 1/200, so you are actually getting 3 stops of stabilization, not just 1. The reciprocal rule is a thing from the film days, and although helpful on 24-megapixel cameras, they are a bit slow for higher megapixel cameras. Using this method also bypasses the idea of having stable hands or not, as your 'base metric' (unstabilized tests) is based on your own hands as well, not some rule. Edit: also, the way you said "Bokeh" at 14:06 is amazing :P
I just ordered this camera cuz I wanted to get into mirrorless but not pay the super high end price of the R3. After I ordered it I went into watching reviews on it and when I came across your channel I remembered I watched a lot of your videos back when I bought my first camera. Especially the weather sealing was one of my points I wasn‘t too sure about from reading it up on the internet. Thanks for talking about it too! So from all I heard in your video I‘m even more excited to get it into my hands and I‘m sure it will be a major upgrade over my 90D I‘ve used for a couple years now. Can‘t wait! Edit: I read the overheating issue in 8K video shooting has been adressed in firmware. Is it a different story now?
Thanks for your detailed review! I have been waiting for your review to judge if I want to consider this as my new camera. You can clearly notice the ammount of work that has been put into the video! The thing I'm missing (even it's topic is maybe better off in a second video) is how the R5 works with older EF (and maybe even EF-S) lenses. As far as I know, both should work for this camera.
@@christopherfrost can you predict if the lenses will perform better or worse on a 45MP sensor than on a smaller sensor? Or is it not possible to say than in general?
patrick771 I have the R5 and the rf 28-70, 70-200 and the 85 1.2. They look so much better on the R5 then the R which I also still have as my second camera .
With a good LP-E6N battery, you also can achieve the 12 fps! They may not last as long as an NH battery, but in a pinch, they are useful! I hope you find a way to retest those RF lenses you looked at on the R, as there are a few features that are missing in some of them. For example, on the r5, there is that icon for IS that is enhanced on the r5 due to IBIS (I think) and you get the "hand+" icon in the VF rather than just the "hand". I think, IIRC, that this (hand+) means the two are working together. I had assumed this were true for all RF lenses, but apparently not. That feature does not work with the RF 24-105 F/4L or the RF 70-200 F/2.8L but it does work with the new RF 100-500 F/4.5-7.1L lens. So, I guess the combined IS (hand+) only works with RF lenses released recently and after/with the R5/R6.
Yes, in US the price difference is "only" $1400 but at least in my country it's 2000€. And I guess that when A7 IV comes out it will affect more on the R6 price. So I'm very interested in R5 - R6 comparisons.
As I am waiting on my R5 to arrive I have watched a ton of videos on it. In that time I have gone from excited to disappointed to excited. Your review of this camera was what I was hoping for, well done!
Dear Chris, Your reviews are always matter-of-fact and focused. When I want to know more about a particular product I always check your review. Well done!
Brilliant review Chris. So much detail in here. Could never justify buying one but it's certainly am amazing camera that I'm interested in learning more about. And great to see Aberporth getting a look in as well as Llangrennog!
Great review and you covered all the bases as usual. It is funny that whilst some videographers are whining about the overheating (which for most people is really a non-issue), I agree with you that the standard 4K is disappointing in its quality. If Canon can improve that in firmware they really have the complete camera.
Well Christopher I must say, this is some fabulous review work. Really excelled yourself here. Made the R5 look like a better buy than most other big name TH-cam camera reviewers and correctly identified Canon mismarketed this as the 8K video beast when the real draw was actually the quite breathtaking stills performance. Really, you've pointed out some features like the partial F stopping that other reviewers just missed. Seems rather non-biased as well. Bravo. The only problem is I want one now, where I hadn't previously. 🤔🙄😂
@@christopherfrost Gerald Undone is a Sony Schill who makes useless tests in his parents' basement where he lives. If the mis-marketing thing he said was true, the R5 wouldn't be the best selling camera of 2020 as it is.
Hi Chris, a great review of the R5. I had Canon gear, 7D II, 5DIV, 500 f4 II etc and had no problem moving to Panasonic G9 some two years ago. However the G9 is not a good wildlife camera that's why I am looking at the R5. One problem you mentioned, image blackout and a knocking sound, well I had this with the G9. It was the sensor/ibis which on the G9 is a combined unit and it was replaced under warranty. Some of the other problems you incurred will hopefully be improved with updated firmware.
Such a great review. I'm still waiting for my camera. How well do the Sigma lenses do with the camera and adapter for photography? I might have missed it in the video.
Great review as usual Christopher. We really need a Sony a9 (II) vs R5/6 AF sports comparison. I would lend you my a9 II however I live in Australia so a little bit far for a loaner.
Good camera in the winter months, keep your hands warm!! Canon did not market the R5 wrong they created a camera not fit for purpose. If a device has functionality it should work as described, if it doesn't work as described it clearly has design faults.
I so look forward to seeing reviews of the R5 as a stills camera. As always Chris your reviews are thorough and easy to understand. May I also say you remind me of Joaquin Phoenix.... with an English accent
You've got this review all wrong Christopher. You should start with the overheating issue and then never stop talking about it! I 100% agree with your assessment that Canon marketed the 5R in a frankly bizarre way. This is a stills camera with added bonus of high quality video. As a Canon shooter I think the R5 suits me perfectly apart from the cost, but I am working on that... Thank you for the calm, real world review.
Would love to see comparison between sony a7iii vs eos r6. Iam a canon user but might shift to sony because of high dynamic range and good shadow details.
I hoped it was an A7RIV, but I do understand the choice, now you have a pretty much level playing field for the big full frame players resolution wise going forward!
That's my way of thinking in not upgrading to the a7R IV :-) I think the 40mp area is a great resolution to test lenses, you get to challenge their performance, but it's not too far away from 24mp for those who shoot on lower resolution cameras.
Christopher, as always your knowledge of the Canon camera menu systems is second to none.. A brilliant video, indeed...!!! No click bait here. LOL! Hopefully, you will be able to compare the R5 to the R6 in the near future. Thanks again..
Appreciate you compiling this. While i’d welcome trying some of these, i value weight and portability maybe more than others. So, when i owned Canon FF dslrs i really loved their ef 40mm f2.8. And having recently switching to Nikon when switching to mirrorless, i’m really looking forward to seeing some reviews of Nikon’s newly released 40mm f2.
Fantastic review like always. I love this camera and have had no issues with it but I am photographer and not a videographer. My only complaint is that the Exposure Simulation turns off when you have a flash or a flash trigger. You can hit two buttons to get it back or turn of the trigger but that is annoying. However, I am sure they could fix this easily with a firmware update
Christopher, the R5 has the best dynamic range of any current full frame camera, besting the Nikons and Sonys, according to the biggest sensor testing site Photons To Photos. However, Canon sacrificed highlight range for shadow range, so the images work best when underexposed.
worth noting that the a7r2 is best at S35 Also the problem (at weddings for example), isnt recording the ceremony at 4k mush normal quality. its that after you record the ceremony in soft 4k, you dont have any 4k60 option to record the confetti on the way out
@@christopherfrost hmm as I'm following you since a long time, I noticed many Sony stuff and very few Canon these last times until the very last test of the Canon EF 70-200mm f/4 L IS 'II' USM. That's why I'm glad of this R5 review (even if I stay with a 5D mark IV... maybe one day R series ?... I love DSLRs). Keep up the good job ;)
Very impressive camera. I need something better for low-light, so I've looked towards Sony in the future, but even with the tiny pixels in this sensor, it would still be a huge upgrade with that stabilization. Very impressive.
I love your lenses and photo gear reviews Christopher, thanks. If I ever buy something new in the future, I'll fully trust your reviews, for sure. A small question: what does it bring to use native RF lenses with an R5 instead of for example a Sigma lens with the EF adapter? Do you lose something with the EF adapter, such as aperture, light...?
Did the Mechanical Shutter vertical blurring bug ever get addressed in subsequent firmware? If you shoot burst mode does it only affect the first exposure in the burst sequence or do all exposures in the burst suffer from vertical blur? Was it only with the 1/100th of a second shutter speed that you saw this bug?
I’m also seeing the blurring with mechanical shutter, mostly at 1/60, 1/100. Same for ECFS images beyond the first image in a burst series. I did some controlled tests and contacted Canon support about what I presume is shutter shock but didn’t get a satisfactory acknowledgment from them. You mention that they are planning to address this in a future firmware upgrade. Might this be coming in the next upgrade due in February 2021? I wouldn’t mind doing electronic shutter for many situations except that I am drowning in too many images captured due to inability to specify burst speed in electronic shutter. Thanks for your great content and presentation.
Kudos for this very nice review, it went into some details that I found quite interesting. Such as the R5 suppporting corrections in the Sigma ART lens. This actually raised a question with me about what other third party lenses are supported, especially the Samyang 85mm f1.4 RF lens tested earlier on in this channel, which has caught my eye. I ordered an R6 and, assuming support for corrections is the same for both the R5 and R6, I wondered if it might be possible to test this, given that he Samyang RF lens is still around off-course. Thanks very much in any case.
Great honest review from you as always, is there a chance you could do a review with the Ef 100 - 400 f4.5 - 5.6 L mkii usm lens with the 1.4 and 2x mkiii teleconverter to see how it focuses on the r5 and to see if it remains sharp and how fast it is as I can't afford any new rf lenses at the moment, I already own several ef lenses and both of these teleconverters and I have not found any reviews of this Anywhere on TH-cam. Many thanks
i hope to see a good long term review of this camera. in summer. either in the city or the dessert/parks or the usual outdoor wedding locations; and not indoors in air conditioned rooms.
Really nice review. I gotta say this looks much nicer to use (ergonomically and with the menu/button layout) than with my sony a7rii, but way too expensive right now (but will be an interesting option in 3-4 years time when prices go down...)
I should point out 20:54 the 1/8 aperture increments only works on Canon RF lenses, not any Canon lenses. Tried a few EF glasses on my RP and it wouldn't work.
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I appreciate reviewers who actually USE cameras (for more than a few hours) before reviewing them
Same. If there's one thing I've learnt about Chris from his channel, other than that his wife loves him dearly (see the way she looks at him even with a camera in his hand) is that he's a stickler for thoroughness. He'd rather be last but with substance rather than first with nothing to say.
same - and "photographers" that actually use and review the camera for Photography aka Stills Photography and not Videography or Filmmaking, if i want to get top brass in cinecams i'd buy a RED ... but i want a compact STILLS camera and reviews that not only show the addon feature of being able to record video - but use it for its primary function - taking stills.
same here
I tested it at the Best Buy for 10 min before writing my review. 💪🏼
Enough R5 fake-overexcited reviews,its time for real review
Thanks Chris
I wonder why you have avoided Reviewing Cameras till now. Your Lens reviews are the best but this review is up there with the best camera reviews. I think you should start doing this more. AWESOME.
Thanks! The reason I avoid camera reviews is because they take me about four times longer to make than lens reviews, and I'm so pressed for time.
@@christopherfrost I understand. I have to say, your findings and observations are unique and add value even though there are many detailed reviews available, Drop these gems once in a while
@5:18 I thought that mirrorless cameras already had live DoF preview so I'm not sure why that button is needed.
@@Rollergold4 Canon cameras don't
@@christopherfrost It is a little obnoxious, but I think it's to give the sensor enough light for the autofocus to work well. Still, it would sure be nice to get away from this soon. Maybe with the R1?
Why don't camera companies send you the review units or you just purposely don't want to? I mean, you're the first guy on TH-cam I would prefer for reviews.
I just bought the R5, it rocks!! What blows my mind is that I spent a month or two watching TH-cam videos and researching the camera and this video is just being recommended to me now! WTF TH-cam?!?!?!? My favorite reviewer doing the best review of the R5 and I'm just seeing it now!!?? I watched it twice! Great job as always Chris! You nailed it exactly (and then some)! Best reviews on YT!!
The dream camera, i´m saving money for the R6 it will be a real upgrade for me, canon has something really awesome in this cameras.
Most will choose R6, at least in Europe where price difference is 40% more that in US.
@@tkermi Woah.
@@Methodical2 Yeah, in US dollars R6 costs here $3435 and R5 $5750. So the price difference is $2315...
If you have to save to buy the camera that means you can’t really afford it.
@@BlaxkNobility Or the person is just being responsible about how he/she uses money. Only quite few people have so much money that they don't need to give any thought about $2,5k ($3,4k in Europe) purchase.
There's a very good way to thank him for doing all this incredible work: by clicking on every single ad that you see on the channel :)
He can't say it, but he gets a ton of money if we do so.
Thanks mate! Keep up!
He's got a Patreon you can donate too. It's easier and can be a bigger monetary contribution than AdSense.
@@ej_tech I know, but not every one is willing to be a patreon. It costs nothing to add another click to your day :)
Nope, he won't get tons of money through ads. You'll have to have view up in the millions to have any significant income.
@@jan.tichavsky Full disclosure: I have so many reviews on TH-cam now that advertising does make an income for me. But like everyone else - I have bills and a mortgage to pay, and a new family to take care of :-)
@@christopherfrost Just subbed to your Patreon Chris. I'm Unemployed so I'm only on the $2 tier but I just felt the need to support what I consider to be the best reviews not only in photography, but possibly in any genre.
I love your standardised testing format, the calm tone and subtle humour, the classic smooth jazz, and the constantly concise, earnest and both technical and artistic advice you add to your work. and then you test them on APSC/full frame/vice versa too?? I don't think I've ever bought a lens that you haven't tested.
Also love the addition of suggestions for alternative lenses / items if you see an issue thats resolved by a competitor. You should be immensely proud of your work. If only every product category had a Christopher Frost.
Beautiful review! Just thought I should mention that the 4K aps-c crop mode looks really good, and is downsampled from 5,1K. It also never overheats.
I've seen a lot reviews about this camera but this was one of the better ones. Your mastery of photography and tech details is so good that you don't have to try so hard like a lot of other reviewers. Instead, you just pointed out the key features and issues. Nice work! Can't wait to put this camera to the test. One question: do you notice any appreciable difference in the color of images straight out of this camera compared to the EOS R?
AllGoodThingsNetwork it is a little cooler. I have both
@@pianofinger I heard that in a different review on YT as well. I currently have both as well and need to test this out. Thanks.
I noticed my images were slightly more red in some situations
The review we’ve ALLL been waiting for
I hear you. Tough to find a positive review.
Nice. You managed to talk about two features i didn’t know were in the camera and i have had mine since august 1 and called myself reading the manual. Interesting to know there is yet another IS problem too with a lens i own, as well! Thanks for the review.
Thank you Chris for the best R5 Review so far, I have watched almost 100+ reviews but found your review much more helpful then other
I just love my R5 and RF lenses - Congratulations!
Mr. Frost, you are one of my favorite TH-cam reviewers. Great job as always.
I bought mine 3 weeks ago along with the F4.0 70-200mm and I have to say OMG. OMG what an amazing camera :)
Hi Christopher, as usual a great review which I used to help me make a decision back in the day. I have had the R 5 for 2 years, I wonder if you feel an updated review maybe a good idea now, in view of all the firmware updates that have hopefully addressed many of the issues, particularly as this is still very much a current model?
Great review Christopher. You brought some new details to light for me like the softness when using the fully mechanical shutter and the 1/8 stop aperture increments. 👌
Did they fix the problem?
Thanks for waiting a month to gather your thoughts for your review. I prefer this over straight-out-of-the-box type reviews, where the reviewers always seem overly excited and sometimes insincere. I think I'll be trading in my EOS R and buying an R5 to replace it, I'm so glad they got rid of the stupid multifunction bar and replaced it with a joystick! That was easily my biggest annoyance with the EOS R (I had a 5D MK2 prior to it). I'm mostly a stills shooter so the R5's shortcomings in video mode don't really affect me.
Thanks for the amazing review, been following you for many years now, very clear and concise, very pleasing review, your review gave me the confidence to finally sell my 5dmk4 and order the R5, really looking forward to using it for many years to come.
Hey, Chris. Have I ever mentioned how I love your calm and well balanced reviews? Thanks for that. I am glad got the R5; not because you will be testing RF lenses, but because you are owning such a great camera. Enjoy!
The old a7rii hold its own in the video department quite well....very surprising. It would be even better in Super35.
Yeah , not bad for a now 5 plus year old camera , the thing that comes to mind looking at all these camera reviews to me is that , all cameras have their strong and weak points , while it is easy to get carried away with the latest and greatest wizz bang models(and the grass is always greener .... ) , , if you have an old model that is still competent and with a good lens , you can still get great images and media .
I look at some of the good photo`s i have taken with my A73 , and i see no reason too spend 4 or 5 grand , or 6.5 grand in this case on another new camera body , and then a lens or two and in my region that in all honesty is only going to give very fractional improvement in image quality for the most part unless you are a pro or blowing up to poster size to sell or pixel peeping .
I really like this style of reviews where the focus is actually on the product.
Watching this review i guess CF is a photographer that does video as well which is like 90% of us and that's why we relate to his vids ..its seams 90% of youtubers are Videographers
Well they do make videos... but alas a lot of them just ride the overheating wagon for views.
I also already have the R5 for a few weeks and I am loving it. It's just an all around amazing photo camera.
Are you planning to retest the sharpness of the RF lenses you have already covered on this higher resolution body?
Question- What is the better option for concert photography ? I shoot small venues such as rap concerts and solo shows. (dark environments) . The A7RV or Canon R5?
Yes, I am - videos coming soon :-)
Chris, an excellent review as always. You have a beautiful backyard at 20:00. It reminds me of the good memories of my childhood.
same here. I have the RP and 7D and didn't do much videos at all other than use RP as web cam.
It's just much lighter to do video on cell phones. I think R5 or R6 will be my next buy...and the RF 70-200.
I just love to have IBIS and it will make all my non stabilized canon fix lens much more useful.
The 4K work flow is already time consuming. 8K will be a killer for my computer.
Just a great review . THANK YOU Christopher. I was buying the NIKON Z 7 2, but a 6 week wait just didn't cut it for me. My Sony 7 R stopped working and needed a new camera. I went to Adorama and was ready to just buy the NIKON , and was browsing around the Canon counter. Picked up the camera just for fun, as the price tag was prohibitive, and fell for it because of the ergonomics. I was trading in a lot of my equipment so it ended up costing me $1400. I must say the pictures are amazing. NOTHING to correct boost or sharpen. WOW. There are a lot of buttons I need to learn and functions but a little patience anything can be done.
Nice review Christopher. And the background music has me feeling like I'm in an old restaurant waiting for my pot of tea. I need to spend more time taking photos, but the EF 50 f1.2 on this camera is amazing. In video, when recording in temps of 65F or lower, I can filled up 328 GB CF cards and not even get an overheat warning.
Bravo Christopher! Another excellent review. If you had it to do over again - this of the Sony A7R IV?
Hey Chris - your review is actually the first "full" review ive seen so far - the others i watch (Jared Polin and Tony Northrup) all only focussed on the video features so far and are holding back their full review - yet im only interested in the "stills" part of the camera - while owning my 6Dmkii now for 2.5 years i never took a single video with it :D ...
The only downside i see with the r5 is that its so prohibitivly expensive, clocking in a 4580$ here in switzerland (thats with the mandatory EF adapter), technically i could afford it but it feels very "wasty" - yet the R6 with its 20mp feels somehow... held back by the 20mp for a landscape photographer like me. I crop often, as in always, at least 20% and thats just format change... I hope that they will lower the price in a year or so to something reasonable. that said, this comment comes from a hobbyist and not someone that earns money with his photography, so my way of rating things is very different and price has a value of its own.
Still greate review as always!
I just hope one day youll show us how you do your focus char test on those 600mm lenses, or is your garden just so long? :-D
Gordon Laing from camera labs did a photograpby review.
4580$ is... just... so much money
Lucky to have had it for five weeks already! I placed an order over six weeks ago and it looks like it will be Oct or Nov at the earliest before I receive mine. Great review, as always.
Best reviewer ever in GB
Hello, Christopher. Delighted to have discovered your videos via this outstanding and intelligent review of the R5, which I'm hoping to make my next EOS purchase. So many nuggets you point out which have added more conviction to that purchase. Among them, so happy to learn that Canon has graciously acknowledged the fact that occasionally we EOS shooters have occasionally chosen to purchase aftermarket lenses such as Sigma ART, by including optimization for such lenses. Also delighted to see demonstrated just how effective the IBIS is on the R5. This is such a USEFUL review, I plan to watch it again (as my birthday - READ: Excuse to purchase sooner rather than later - approaches). It is so welcome to view camera reviews that are reasoned and devoid of noisy hype. Also, I appreciated your good taste in your music background. Needless to say, I have subscribed, and will look forward to viewing more of your work.
Its the best camera I have ever used. If you shoot in ambient temps of 65 degrees F or less - you likely will never overheat the camera. Even in 8K. For long form recording I point a small and silent usb powered fan at the ports, and it will record in all modes forever that way. Even in ambient temps up to about 80 degrees F.
Are you absolutely sure about that? If so you should make a video to demonstrate it for everyone. Serious professional technicians have been looking into the issue and not been able to fix it...
Christopher Frost Photography Yes. I have personally tested it myself. Many others as well. Multiple posts with pictures of times on the Canon Rumors Discord. I have filled my 512GB Cf Express Card after shooting over one hour of 8k IPB Video in a 79 degree room, with a silent USB fan pointed at the ports. I have repeated this test many times. It also works with 4kHQ, and 4K 60. I shot 4 sequences of 4K 120 this way and stopped because who needs 30 total minutes or more of continuous 4K 120. Many others have not even needed the fan if they shoot in 70 degree F or cooler. See the Ordinary Filmmaker. This is all with firmware 1.1. Also the TH-cam channel No Life has posted his videos with a small fan essentially recording 8k forever.
Here's a thought about stabilization tests. Rather than just testing the maximum shutter speed of the camera, stabilized, and compare that to the reciprocal rule, also test the camera unstabilized. The reason for this is that you are assuming you will get a sharp image with the reciprocal rule shutter speed, which is often untrue on high megapixel cameras.
For instance, say you are shooting on a 50mm lens. You find that, with stabilization, you get sharp images at around 1/25, so you conclude the camera has 1 stop of stabilization. However, if you were to test the camera unstabilized, you may find out that you only get sharp images at around 1/200, so you are actually getting 3 stops of stabilization, not just 1.
The reciprocal rule is a thing from the film days, and although helpful on 24-megapixel cameras, they are a bit slow for higher megapixel cameras.
Using this method also bypasses the idea of having stable hands or not, as your 'base metric' (unstabilized tests) is based on your own hands as well, not some rule.
Edit: also, the way you said "Bokeh" at 14:06 is amazing :P
I just ordered this camera cuz I wanted to get into mirrorless but not pay the super high end price of the R3. After I ordered it I went into watching reviews on it and when I came across your channel I remembered I watched a lot of your videos back when I bought my first camera. Especially the weather sealing was one of my points I wasn‘t too sure about from reading it up on the internet. Thanks for talking about it too! So from all I heard in your video I‘m even more excited to get it into my hands and I‘m sure it will be a major upgrade over my 90D I‘ve used for a couple years now. Can‘t wait! Edit: I read the overheating issue in 8K video shooting has been adressed in firmware. Is it a different story now?
This channel and camera conspiracies are the only review channels worth watching on TH-cam.
Thanks for your detailed review!
I have been waiting for your review to judge if I want to consider this as my new camera. You can clearly notice the ammount of work that has been put into the video!
The thing I'm missing (even it's topic is maybe better off in a second video) is how the R5 works with older EF (and maybe even EF-S) lenses. As far as I know, both should work for this camera.
love your videos Chris. i have bought my lenses after watching your videos. i was planning on buying the R6. can you do a video on them as well?
So glad you go the R5, happy to see more rf lens reviews :)
I can't wait to test some lenses on that 45mp sensor :-)
@@christopherfrost can you predict if the lenses will perform better or worse on a 45MP sensor than on a smaller sensor? Or is it not possible to say than in general?
@@patrick.771 a bigger MP camera like the R5 will better review how sharp a lens really is, compared to say a smaller 20mp camera like the R6
patrick771 I have the R5 and the rf 28-70, 70-200 and the 85 1.2. They look so much better on the R5 then the R which I also still have as my second camera .
With a good LP-E6N battery, you also can achieve the 12 fps! They may not last as long as an NH battery, but in a pinch, they are useful! I hope you find a way to retest those RF lenses you looked at on the R, as there are a few features that are missing in some of them. For example, on the r5, there is that icon for IS that is enhanced on the r5 due to IBIS (I think) and you get the "hand+" icon in the VF rather than just the "hand". I think, IIRC, that this (hand+) means the two are working together. I had assumed this were true for all RF lenses, but apparently not. That feature does not work with the RF 24-105 F/4L or the RF 70-200 F/2.8L but it does work with the new RF 100-500 F/4.5-7.1L lens. So, I guess the combined IS (hand+) only works with RF lenses released recently and after/with the R5/R6.
Are you gonna review the R6? I bet most people here will go for the "budget" version.
Love your reviews, keep it up!
Yes, in US the price difference is "only" $1400 but at least in my country it's 2000€. And I guess that when A7 IV comes out it will affect more on the R6 price. So I'm very interested in R5 - R6 comparisons.
The R6 is for plebs. Just enjoy the review and become a patron.
CBTheMechanic On the planet I’m from a mirroless cam which basically has the 1dxiii internals for less than half the price is pretty awesome.
I dont see the R6 as a "budget R5". I see it as an option for a different market.
I hope Canon lend him the R6 for a while and he make a review for it.
As I am waiting on my R5 to arrive I have watched a ton of videos on it. In that time I have gone from excited to disappointed to excited. Your review of this camera was what I was hoping for, well done!
Dear Chris, Your reviews are always matter-of-fact and focused. When I want to know more about a particular product I always check your review. Well done!
You are one of my most favorite camera tech reviewer. You deserve more subscribers
THE BEST REVIEW FOR THIS CAMERA. PERIOD.
Brilliant review Chris. So much detail in here. Could never justify buying one but it's certainly am amazing camera that I'm interested in learning more about. And great to see Aberporth getting a look in as well as Llangrennog!
Great review and you covered all the bases as usual. It is funny that whilst some videographers are whining about the overheating (which for most people is really a non-issue), I agree with you that the standard 4K is disappointing in its quality. If Canon can improve that in firmware they really have the complete camera.
Well Christopher I must say, this is some fabulous review work. Really excelled yourself here. Made the R5 look like a better buy than most other big name TH-cam camera reviewers and correctly identified Canon mismarketed this as the 8K video beast when the real draw was actually the quite breathtaking stills performance. Really, you've pointed out some features like the partial F stopping that other reviewers just missed. Seems rather non-biased as well.
Bravo. The only problem is I want one now, where I hadn't previously. 🤔🙄😂
Thanks! Full-disclosure - the thing about it being mis-marketed was originally Gerald Undone's thought - his reviews are really excellent
@@christopherfrost I agree. You, him, Potato Jet and Epic Light Media are my go tos for good photography and videography tips and reviews. 👌
@@christopherfrost Gerald Undone is a Sony Schill who makes useless tests in his parents' basement where he lives. If the mis-marketing thing he said was true, the R5 wouldn't be the best selling camera of 2020 as it is.
Best reviewer ever I like native speaker reviews
One of the best reviews of the r5. Well done!
Hi Chris, a great review of the R5. I had Canon gear, 7D II, 5DIV, 500 f4 II etc and had no problem moving to Panasonic G9 some two years ago. However the G9 is not a good wildlife camera that's why I am looking at the R5. One problem you mentioned, image blackout and a knocking sound, well I had this with the G9. It was the sensor/ibis which on the G9 is a combined unit and it was replaced under warranty. Some of the other problems you incurred will hopefully be improved with updated firmware.
Such a great review. I'm still waiting for my camera. How well do the Sigma lenses do with the camera and adapter for photography? I might have missed it in the video.
I've been using a Sigma 50mm f/1.4 ART lens adapted on and for stills and videos it's absolutely fantastic
Chris, really nice review. Thank you for your work!
Great review as usual Christopher. We really need a Sony a9 (II) vs R5/6 AF sports comparison. I would lend you my a9 II however I live in Australia so a little bit far for a loaner.
I've seen a few comparisons and the R5 holds its own with the a9 cameras for sports shooting.
I agree. That would be a great comparison. Those are the cameras I'm interested in.
Finally, the best review of EOS R5.
canon got to keep you you tubers happy !!!!
Always a methodical and comprehensive review from Mr. Frost.
How does he get the menu recorded directly from the camera?
Using an external recorder
Best 👍 Review of this Canon R5 on TH-cam and I've seen them all
I have R5 for almost a month now Love it love it 😍
Excellent review, especially the way you handled the comparison of video modes.
A review of the R5 for stills? FINALLY!
Good camera in the winter months, keep your hands warm!! Canon did not market the R5 wrong they created a camera not fit for purpose. If a device has functionality it should work as described, if it doesn't work as described it clearly has design faults.
I so look forward to seeing reviews of the R5 as a stills camera. As always Chris your reviews are thorough and easy to understand. May I also say you remind me of Joaquin Phoenix.... with an English accent
You've got this review all wrong Christopher. You should start with the overheating issue and then never stop talking about it!
I 100% agree with your assessment that Canon marketed the 5R in a frankly bizarre way. This is a stills camera with added bonus of high quality video.
As a Canon shooter I think the R5 suits me perfectly apart from the cost, but I am working on that...
Thank you for the calm, real world review.
Would love to see comparison between sony a7iii vs eos r6.
Iam a canon user but might shift to sony because of high dynamic range and good shadow details.
I hoped it was an A7RIV, but I do understand the choice, now you have a pretty much level playing field for the big full frame players resolution wise going forward!
That's my way of thinking in not upgrading to the a7R IV :-) I think the 40mp area is a great resolution to test lenses, you get to challenge their performance, but it's not too far away from 24mp for those who shoot on lower resolution cameras.
Wow thanks for this! I learned more than a lot of more popular reviews especially about the battery! Thanks Christopher!
This is the best review I saw of this camera.
There's no other camera in the world that i want more.
Wow! The stabilisation for still photos looks amazing! Which is the biggest reason why I have one on order, so this was a very reassuring video :-)
Christopher, as always your knowledge of the Canon camera menu systems is second to none.. A brilliant video, indeed...!!! No click bait here. LOL! Hopefully, you will be able to compare the R5 to the R6 in the near future. Thanks again..
Finaly the best reviewer, reviewing the R5.
Appreciate you compiling this. While i’d welcome trying some of these, i value weight and portability maybe more than others. So, when i owned Canon FF dslrs i really loved their ef 40mm f2.8. And having recently switching to Nikon when switching to mirrorless, i’m really looking forward to seeing some reviews of Nikon’s newly released 40mm f2.
Fantastic review like always. I love this camera and have had no issues with it but I am photographer and not a videographer. My only complaint is that the Exposure Simulation turns off when you have a flash or a flash trigger. You can hit two buttons to get it back or turn of the trigger but that is annoying. However, I am sure they could fix this easily with a firmware update
The future looks bright, I say! Marvelous review, as always. Too bad I've bought in to Nikon. 😋
had an R5 and it overheated in Arizona...... I sold it and still shoot with my Canon 5DSR and my for video I use my 1DX MKiii .......
Christopher, the R5 has the best dynamic range of any current full frame camera, besting the Nikons and Sonys, according to the biggest sensor testing site Photons To Photos. However, Canon sacrificed highlight range for shadow range, so the images work best when underexposed.
Sony is still better
Great review! Would love your review on he R6 as that is more the price point and mp size I was looking for.
Finally a proper review of the R5!
worth noting that the a7r2 is best at S35
Also the problem (at weddings for example), isnt recording the ceremony at 4k mush normal quality. its that after you record the ceremony in soft 4k, you dont have any 4k60 option to record the confetti on the way out
Welcome back to Canon! I was missing your channel :)
I never stopped testing Canon gear :-)
@@christopherfrost hmm as I'm following you since a long time, I noticed many Sony stuff and very few Canon these last times until the very last test of the Canon EF 70-200mm f/4 L IS 'II' USM. That's why I'm glad of this R5 review (even if I stay with a 5D mark IV... maybe one day R series ?... I love DSLRs). Keep up the good job ;)
As always a balanced and fair review Chris - thank you 😎😎😎
Very impressive camera. I need something better for low-light, so I've looked towards Sony in the future, but even with the tiny pixels in this sensor, it would still be a huge upgrade with that stabilization. Very impressive.
When Chris can be bothered to make a camera review, you'd already know it's worth buying.
I love your lenses and photo gear reviews Christopher, thanks. If I ever buy something new in the future, I'll fully trust your reviews, for sure. A small question: what does it bring to use native RF lenses with an R5 instead of for example a Sigma lens with the EF adapter? Do you lose something with the EF adapter, such as aperture, light...?
Did the Mechanical Shutter vertical blurring bug ever get addressed in subsequent firmware? If you shoot burst mode does it only affect the first exposure in the burst sequence or do all exposures in the burst suffer from vertical blur? Was it only with the 1/100th of a second shutter speed that you saw this bug?
Really like the moment when the CFexpress card pop out and you see Sony ! reminding me the a7SIII :)
He he. I love those Tough memory cards, and they're so fast.
I’m a metro Phoenix area native.. loving the ASU shirt... 👍👍👍
The video review is also good.
Great review Chris! I think this will be my next camera when I finally get rid of the A7R2
Excellent review Christopher , many thanks
I’m also seeing the blurring with mechanical shutter, mostly at 1/60, 1/100. Same for ECFS images beyond the first image in a burst series. I did some controlled tests and contacted Canon support about what I presume is shutter shock but didn’t get a satisfactory acknowledgment from them. You mention that they are planning to address this in a future firmware upgrade. Might this be coming in the next upgrade due in February 2021? I wouldn’t mind doing electronic shutter for many situations except that I am drowning in too many images captured due to inability to specify burst speed in electronic shutter. Thanks for your great content and presentation.
Kudos for this very nice review, it went into some details that I found quite interesting. Such as the R5 suppporting corrections in the Sigma ART lens. This actually raised a question with me about what other third party lenses are supported, especially the Samyang 85mm f1.4 RF lens tested earlier on in this channel, which has caught my eye. I ordered an R6 and, assuming support for corrections is the same for both the R5 and R6, I wondered if it might be possible to test this, given that he Samyang RF lens is still around off-course. Thanks very much in any case.
Hey Chris! awsome review! did canon fix the problem you mentioned with the vertical bleur at 100th ss?
Canon showed this in stock on thier website today so I ordered it. We'll see when it shows up.
See if you follow suit, I traded in my Sigma Art 50 and Canon 50 to pay for the RF50. Combined with the R5 it's perfection (IMO).
Great honest review from you as always, is there a chance you could do a review with the Ef 100 - 400 f4.5 - 5.6 L mkii usm lens with the 1.4 and 2x mkiii teleconverter to see how it focuses on the r5 and to see if it remains sharp and how fast it is as I can't afford any new rf lenses at the moment, I already own several ef lenses and both of these teleconverters and I have not found any reviews of this Anywhere on TH-cam. Many thanks
i hope to see a good long term review of this camera. in summer. either in the city or the dessert/parks or the usual outdoor wedding locations; and not indoors in air conditioned rooms.
Really nice review. I gotta say this looks much nicer to use (ergonomically and with the menu/button layout) than with my sony a7rii, but way too expensive right now (but will be an interesting option in 3-4 years time when prices go down...)
I should point out 20:54 the 1/8 aperture increments only works on Canon RF lenses, not any Canon lenses. Tried a few EF glasses on my RP and it wouldn't work.