Canon R5 vs 5D Mk IV: DSLR vs Mirrorless!

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  • @mikkirurk1
    @mikkirurk1 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Get yourself 5DM3 and the best lens you can afford. Upgrade the body later. Remember - you're building your system around the lenses, not the body.

  • @ghlocal1
    @ghlocal1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I’ve owned the 5D Mark IV, the D850 and the R5, and honestly, the R5 is the most enjoyable and best camera I’ve ever owned!

    • @email1721
      @email1721 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a wedding a head of me. My bride is in Afghanistan and there is electricity issue as well. Which camera and lens should I buy? Please choose the camera which carries almost the flagship quality with lowest price. It would be a great help.
      Thanks

    • @shafiqshah3
      @shafiqshah3 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      5D mark 3

  • @sturm3n
    @sturm3n 4 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    You blurred your license plates in the garage shot but not the following shots

    • @MustangGT715
      @MustangGT715 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I thought the same thing! 🤣

    • @touringband
      @touringband 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Cool story

    • @RuthiesVlogWorld
      @RuthiesVlogWorld ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol I said the same one gave up

  • @Fr0mDust2Dust
    @Fr0mDust2Dust ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Been using the 5D Mark IV and there is truly something about the raw nature of this camera never failing that has photographed probably close to 200 weddings on it. It's been dropped several times and still works perfectly. I did find some lag when using the R5 during important things. But the MarkIV on Manual Mode is as close to using an old film camera as it gets. I love it and wouldn't trade it for anything. The eye focus is literally the only thing that I want on the Mark Iv. I wish they could add a firmware update or something.

  • @vidsburgh6022
    @vidsburgh6022 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I was excited about the R5 until I saw that the R6 with 24-105 f4 cost the same as the R5 body, so that seemed a better option. I mostly do events, so 20MP is more than enough and the lower resolution is a bit better in low light conditions. What really matters is the stabilization and new autofocus system, and that’s the same for both. Now I just need to get enough gigs to cover a RF 70-200 2.8...

  • @Astrolavista
    @Astrolavista 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    It still blows my mind that the R5 and A7SIII can literally see in the dark!

    • @ccmassis
      @ccmassis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wow!! Shoot in the dark!!! 😳 why would you do this??!!! Are you a private investigator?!

    • @Astrolavista
      @Astrolavista 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@ccmassis lol no, just an astronomer who struggles to film astronomy content in the dark :)

    • @jsavak99
      @jsavak99 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kool for filmmaking. I suppose if you wanna shoot stills in low light but hey it's not gonna set your creativity back.

    • @paulstevens2839
      @paulstevens2839 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ccmassis your a jackass

    • @paulstevens2839
      @paulstevens2839 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ccmassis Im not a PI, but your a jerk.

  • @danielvanhoof4399
    @danielvanhoof4399 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have switched from EOS 7D mark II to EOS R5 and I still use all my EF L lenses without any issue, in fact the seem to perform better on the R5

  • @samuelgilbert9734
    @samuelgilbert9734 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I upgraded from a 7D to a 5D Mk IV since I had autofocus issues. I still find that the focus worse when using the viewfinder than when using the LiveView. I messed around with micro-focus adjustments to get the sharpness as close as possible to the LiveView, but when I change subject distance, I don't get sharp shots with the viewfinder. Did you ever experience something similar with the 5D Mk IV?

  • @krranjit
    @krranjit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I will skip r5 this year will keep my 5d mark iv ,I will wait for next version of r5👍

    • @_docjuli_
      @_docjuli_ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And the next version just came out

    • @endowpictures22
      @endowpictures22 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      R5 II is out... what are you waiting for

  • @bbgrosswesir9766
    @bbgrosswesir9766 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just the body is a big step back. I own the R6 (R5 is still not available in Germany :( ). The 5D IV is so handy, the dial button easy to reach with the thumb. On the R6/R5 you need both hands to work with the dial. Big step back in my opinion. The 5D body was soooo good. Why the changed it? Bigger body would perhaps give more space for the overheating issue, too. And the buttons also feels not so good on my hands. It reminds me more to the G series rather then semi professional 5 line. Interestingly, no youtuber mentions the small body; is was/be a bit unhappy and will miss those ergonomics.

    • @FART-REPELLENT
      @FART-REPELLENT 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Plus the R5 isn’t anywhere near as curvy as the 5D MKIV, I particularly hate the inner side of the grip of the R5, it’s almost at 90 degrees with the front of the body, and so the grip isn’t as curvy as on the 5D MKIV. Cannon should have made the R5 body design like that of the 5D series

  • @WildHorseProductions
    @WildHorseProductions 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Oh wow that's useful to know the file size are about the same! How do they manage a 45MP pic to have the same size as the 30MP on the old Mk4?

    • @airb1976
      @airb1976 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lossless compression my friend...

  • @Khaos768
    @Khaos768 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    6:10 how is it that when the eye-auto-focus is on, Chelsea is blurry and what's in focus are the rocks far behind her?

    • @familyschaeffer8348
      @familyschaeffer8348 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, you're right...why did they choose that clip? The same occurs at 5:38 when it's focused on the tree behind her.

    • @birbs4life174
      @birbs4life174 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They didn’t engage the autofocus

  • @socandyman
    @socandyman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Nice eye tracking @5:39 maybe next time we can get eye focus

  • @gwal93
    @gwal93 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Any camera in the right hands i.e. a photographer who knows the system they are using and has creative ability will produce amazing images. That is stage one, stage two is post processing to get the maximum out of an image in a style that has impact and reflects something original rather than the everyday snap. Having said that, few of us get there because we fail in one or all of these things. Whatever the camera, it takes time to get familiarity with all the features and settings and this only comes with practice of every feature until you can do it in your sleep. Selecting the appropriate camera settings for the subject is next. Composition is more an art/creative thing but there are basic rules that seem to work. Get the lighting and exposure right. Post processing can take many times longer for each image than it took to take the image in the first place (including the travelling time to the location) and often we fail there, we either don't process enough or we process too much. Only many attempts and tweaks will get you there. If you have a 5D Mk IV and you are producing 1 acceptable image out of a 1000 (like me) then you will provably get 2 out of a 1000 with the D5. Your issue is not with the camera and its technology, it is with you. Practice with the 5D Mk IV until you can honestly say you just can't get a better image of everything you take then you are ready to move on to the R5. If you are where I am right now with my 5D Mk IV .... by that time you will be able to pick up an R5 at KEH for half the price of buying it now.

    • @michellelynn1023
      @michellelynn1023 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I LOVE this honest and true answer. 📸🙌🏼

  • @SteelRiderCarl
    @SteelRiderCarl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So there are some things that the 5D Mark 4 doesn't have that are available in other DSLR's, namely, the 6D Mark 2 has a flippy screen, and the 90D has 4K video, and the 5Ds has a higher resolution than the R5. Also the 1Dx Mark III has freaking backlit buttons! If there's to be an end to DSLR's there needs to be a "be all, end all" model that takes all that and as much of what's in the R5 as possible and crams it into a holy grail model because no matter what you do, you just can't get it all in one body!

  • @AllgoodthingsTv
    @AllgoodthingsTv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It looks like the R5 is going the same way as the EOS R that preceded it - riotous critiquing followed by an almost cult like acceptance and praise for its features. Canon continues to make people walk back their insults with these cameras. On a personal note, I've had the R5 for about a month now and I have yet to feel like it's HUGE step up from the EOS R. I think it's just a matter of shooting with it more.

    • @user-ww2nd4co2p
      @user-ww2nd4co2p 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      as someone who's shot sports on both the R and R5, the R5 is such a huge improvement, not to mention the overall design of the body is so much more natural feeling and has a back dial

  • @Screaming.Monkey
    @Screaming.Monkey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So was the record scratch sound at 2:13 because you blurred your license plates in the first shot, but then forgot to blur it in the next shot? In which case, why not just blur it out instead of the audio edit? 😐

  • @Durang0318
    @Durang0318 4 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Why bother blurring your plate in one shot just to show it .004 seconds later

    • @ffl1409
      @ffl1409 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      A mistake? Maybe? Unlike TH-cam commenters, these poor humans are incapable of avoiding mistakes.

    • @jerrylags
      @jerrylags 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Let it go

    • @teriyaki_9inety9ine27
      @teriyaki_9inety9ine27 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The cold dont bother me anyway.

    • @HokKan
      @HokKan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      To make you comment for more $. Great bait.

    • @cooloox
      @cooloox 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Who cares? That's your comment on this video is it? Forget what the video was about.

  • @NikCan66
    @NikCan66 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    User of Canon 1dx Mark iii and Nikon D5 pro dslr cameras. I cover areas from Action,sports & wildlife environments both in daytime and nighttime with climatic differences come into play.
    I have tried both mirrorless variants from Canon and Nikon in similar environments but wasn't impressed with the mirrorless cameras regards to tracking,focusing in low light and robustness of either Canon or Nikon.
    Mirrorless cameras don't feel as sturdy enough to use on a daily basis for my needs. I will only switch if a Pro Mirrorless Canon 1dx Mark iii and Nikon D6 cameras become available otherwise I will stay with the Dslr cameras for my work.

  • @missgirl8210
    @missgirl8210 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’ve had the R5 for 2 months and I used to use the 5DM4 for 3 years before that. These 2 months have been so much more easy for me than using the 5DM4. The R5 is so much more forgiving! Sometimes indoor I don’t even have to use flash because I can edit the shadows without getting grain. Never looking back. :)

    • @AR-vg7hm
      @AR-vg7hm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      you should try iPhone 13 pro - it's "so much more forgiving" than R5!

    • @TheFirstRealChewy
      @TheFirstRealChewy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My approach is to add light whenever possible. With how good cameras are these days, a little light added makes a world of difference.

  • @youknowwho9247
    @youknowwho9247 4 ปีที่แล้ว +138

    Tony - "The 5D IV is possibly the greatest DSLR ever made"
    D850 - "Am I a joke to you?" :D

    • @OkwyUgonweze
      @OkwyUgonweze 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      You took it off my mouth.

    • @4n6design
      @4n6design 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      I am a Canon guy. The D850 smokes the 5D Mark IV.

    • @kevindiaz3459
      @kevindiaz3459 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I mean, he not only has a video that is literally about the D850 being the best DSLR ever made (and possibly the swan song to DSLRs), but he has been pretty critical of the 5DmkIV. But he is also not wrong that it has been used by pros everywhere for just about everything. And his previous criticisms were not for it being a bad camera but rather for not being much of an upgrade from the mkIII.

    • @PunjabiGymBeats
      @PunjabiGymBeats 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      But it sucks in live view with dual autofocus.

    • @jeni719
      @jeni719 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Best Canon DSLR ever, more appropriate. Nikon bodies give better Image Quality, but Nikon glass is more expensive, and there are a lot of Canon users out there with legacy glass because at the introduction of 5D Mk II, Canon was a lot better choice.

  • @jamesjin8839
    @jamesjin8839 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The new RF lenses might not look apparently much sharper. But what I consistenly observe them comparing to old EF lenses is corner contrast especially when shooting distant subjects.(not compared in this video.) EF lenses tend to give you the traditional SLR hazy/ghosty corner while RF lenses preserve much more contrast and thus appear to be sharper. Couple with extra pixels and a little better resolving capability the images look much better even when you peep. Particularly useful for landscape.
    However the bum of this system currently is exactly what tony mentioned. The increase in price of the bdoy is largely due to all those video features packed in there that many are not really emphasizing. (how many % needs 8k) I'm still waiting for a less video focused, more still mage centric body model to consider any switch.

  • @codythep
    @codythep 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought the background was in focus at 6:09 as well, and it is, but he doesn’t have it on “continuous AF” so he has to press the back button to focus every time he wants it to re-focus. The grey box will turn green when it’s in focus.

  • @joncothranphotography9375
    @joncothranphotography9375 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That's great, but I just love my 5D iv. Maybe I'll upgrade to the R5 or the R6 one day, but probably not soon...

  • @darylcheshire1618
    @darylcheshire1618 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I stepped up to the R5 from the 5DmkIII and I love it. The only thing is that when the R5 falls asleep, the viewfinder is dark and the eye sensor doesn't wake it up so you press the shutter button or the OK button to wake it up. The mk III is optical so doesn't go dark.

  • @LooseEnds
    @LooseEnds 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    You sound more positive about the 5Div in this video than you did when it first came out! I'm looking forward to watching DSLR prices continue to dive with the wake of the mirrorless transition.

    • @77dris
      @77dris 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hahah great point. The 5D IV got lambasted by TH-camrs (including Tony) when it came out . Now people look back on it fondly. I had it and the image quality was the best of any camera I ever used (much better than even the R which exhibited shadow banding - something Tony pointed out in the R review)

  • @JFW5358
    @JFW5358 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Hands on the steering wheel, Tony.

    • @dylancoppo
      @dylancoppo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It Could be that his car has lane keep assist ... or some other level of autonomy that doesn’t require both hands on the wheel under all conditions

    • @fielding68
      @fielding68 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dylancoppo Electric car.

  • @Universal_Craftsman
    @Universal_Craftsman 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    2:16 How is the music called?

  • @jerzys192
    @jerzys192 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Chelsea was recording sound in the toilet at home, she probably forgot to turn on the microphone outdoors

    • @BassPlayerAvailable
      @BassPlayerAvailable 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah that audio was terrible

    • @jerzys192
      @jerzys192 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@BassPlayerAvailable It could have been a deliberate act to advertise wireless headphones and microphones later

    • @nathano9637
      @nathano9637 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They give Sound advice in the video however it does makes you think twice when they can't get sound right and you're trying to teach other and give advise lol

  • @yoramlebovits6361
    @yoramlebovits6361 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You noticed that the camera found the eye
    But really really not in focus
    The background is in focus

  • @Holtenstein
    @Holtenstein 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    That gear closet is pretty impressive! When do we get a walkthrough of that?

  • @susanmeyer8885
    @susanmeyer8885 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Where is your R5 tutorial located? Thanks for the comparison.

  • @linsnowx
    @linsnowx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder why you blurred out the car plate number @2:07 and then the very next few shots you completely revealed it...

  • @reddeadrazor8257
    @reddeadrazor8257 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I started photography as a hobby back in 2010 or so, with a 600D and a 18-55mm kitlens. Within 6 months I got the EF-S 55-250mm.
    I used that camera A LOT, but decided to go full frame in 2018 with the 6Dm2 with a 25-105mm kitlens. By that time, I also forced myself to only shoot in manual, and also got the Sigma 70-200mm. Amazing set up.
    In the recent months, I was very fortunate to order a R5 with the RF85mm as an incentive workbonus, and recieved my new gear (including the ringed adapter) 2 weeks ago.
    Man, that thing is a beast! Once I had all my buttons customised, the speed of my workflow had increased so much. I love this thing, but have a constant feeling that I’m not worthy :)

  • @pixelprovideo3586
    @pixelprovideo3586 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I upgraded from a 5D III to a R5 and I L O V E it!

  • @andyv6127
    @andyv6127 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thanks for making the effort to compare these two cameras in a real world situation. Some of us do appreciate your insights and the work involved in doing this. Thanks again.

  • @ANRO7524
    @ANRO7524 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sony kind of pissed me off with this introduction of mirrorless- cameras thing. I didn't like it years ago when Sony introduced themselves into the camera market by declaring that they intended to outdo all other established manufacturers within a think it was a ten year time-period. I respect the fact that they've managed to come close to doing just that. I still think that the Canon 1dx III is the best. Too much hype about mirrorless cameras. What about the fact that Canon decided to make their RF lenses plastic instead of the metallic EF lenses? Also, so what if you can see the histogram and a bunch of data in the electronic viewfinder. People should pay attention to their composition instead of a thousand other distractions. Not a big deal that you need to verify exposure with the histogram through the LCD screen in DSLR's because you're supposed to know what you're doing during exposure as a photographer in the first place. Histograms are for verification purposes, and fine-tuning within a third of a stop purposes- not for real-time as things are happening analysis. Who can do that, anyways? Someone who doesn't know exposure in the first place, I guess. Also, if I want mirrorless, just go in Live View mode and you have most of the same right there. The only real benefits of mirrorless camera are: depth- of- field previews loose no light in mirrorless, possible faster autofocus potential in RF lenses because of the more pins involved in the bayonet connection with the camera, in-camera image stabilization, and the bright viewfinder in even low-light environments. Also, an action camera for wildlife photography, (myself), or sports photography should have the vertical grip included all as one body- less dust and moisture entry issues and the camera would have the shutter button and main dials for vertical-grip compositions. Hopefully, Canon doesn't abandon EF until maybe ten years out, (2030), there's still time for one more DSLR= Canon 1dx IV at hopefully 30MP.

  • @dansomerville
    @dansomerville 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Man, as someone who’s used mirrorless for a long time now it’s hilarious to see all the benefits we talked about for years finally being accepted. I remember so many people arguing when the 5div came out that most of the benefits listed for mirrorless in this video were for amateurs and not “pro”

  • @JetBen555
    @JetBen555 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I dont understand why your audio just get worse year after year 😅

  • @CO8848_2
    @CO8848_2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    What I got out of this video: the old 85mm f1.2 is really soft.

    • @cooloox
      @cooloox 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I wonder if that was a poor shot. Even the cheap 85mm 1.8 is significantly sharper than what was shown there.

    • @forbesjeff
      @forbesjeff 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've rented the 85mm 1.2L and... it's not a soft lens. It's not the sharpest thing in the world wide open, but even at 1.4 it was pretty impressive.

    • @CO8848_2
      @CO8848_2 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jeff Forbes LOL. Sure.

    • @airb1976
      @airb1976 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cooloox the 85 1.8 is usually sharper then the 85 1.2

  • @GoranSlika
    @GoranSlika 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The 80's relic top-display of the 5D really made me notice how 'lo-res' the one in the R5 is. Double-checked the Fuji GFX 100 and same story. I assume the calculator-like displays are much cheaper than the back LCDs, but I still find it rough to have such jagged lettering and numbers in modern cameras, especially top of the line models.

    • @mcunner
      @mcunner 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hate the casio watch look but love the casio calculator look 😂

    • @SteelRiderCarl
      @SteelRiderCarl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I much prefer the old LCD display, but it's just pure preference.

    • @SteelRiderCarl
      @SteelRiderCarl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Pure preference, but I much prefer the old LCD type displays. Everything has a dedicated place and it's right where you want it.

    • @rumporridge1
      @rumporridge1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      5DM4 top screen is fine for me. Never looked at it and said “oh wow what an old looking screen”.

  • @Razor2048
    @Razor2048 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Many years ago, the only thing holding mirrorless cameras back, was the auto focus and bad banding issues. The auto focus issues were effectively completely fixed, and the banding issues are almost completely gone. The Dynamic range of the EVFs have also improved greatly to a point where the they can be effectively used for manual mode. Overall, beyond battery life there is no reason to not go with mirrorless.

  • @rickb6029
    @rickb6029 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The message is to upgrade, and I agree since you get newer and better performance. I bought the Canon 1dsmk2 flagship DSLR back in 2005 for $8000 brand new, it's in perfect shape but now worth only $47 if I sell to KEH. So, it's probably better to upgrade more often if you can afford to.

  • @nick_cooper
    @nick_cooper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As someone who recently got in to photography, I feel like it is important to go through the motion of an older DSLR while learning. I feel like a newbie going straight to a modern and expensive mirrorless would have software doing a lot of the work for them, and they wouldn't learn the core aspects of the tech side of photography. You have to know your depth of field, how your camera and lens handles higher ISO, whereas a mirrorless shows it all realtime so you can see what works and shoot. It is great, which is why they are the best right now, but for learning from scratch I think the older is better.
    Although I'm sure people say the same about going from film to DSLR

    • @TheFirstRealChewy
      @TheFirstRealChewy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Don't artificially limit yourself. If the tech gets the job done, use it. That's why it's there.
      You can still learn all the other things and apply them for more specific situations.

  • @dbnoho
    @dbnoho 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2024 and still using the Canon 5d classic. Eventually I'll upgrade to the 5d IV. Just because, but every time I see new camera's, I think, don't people like using the camera? I can see how a lot of the new features would be nice, but I feel like people spend so much time working on their skills and photographer's eye, just to trade it all in for something that makes anyone almost as good as anyone else.

  • @QUINPANO
    @QUINPANO 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I thought d850 was greatest

    • @davidpavlich8939
      @davidpavlich8939 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I'm a 5DIV shooter and I happen to agree with you. The D850 is the best DSLR on the market.

    • @mcunner
      @mcunner 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This is a Canon ad spot so they have to promote them.

    • @77dris
      @77dris 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No.

    • @SCU3A_S7EVE
      @SCU3A_S7EVE 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What about the D600?

  • @ryanb8736
    @ryanb8736 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’m surprised you don’t recommend the R6 as a cheaper alternative to the R5.

    • @MichaelCTruth
      @MichaelCTruth 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Does it have a joy stick?

    • @ryanb8736
      @ryanb8736 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MichaelCTruth Yes is does.

  • @andreaslacey
    @andreaslacey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The lowlight comparison between the R5 and 5D Mark IV I'm literally laughing. The difference in camera settings 😂😂😂.

    • @MichaelCTruth
      @MichaelCTruth 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which one is better?

    • @andreaslacey
      @andreaslacey 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would definitely bet on the R5 but that comparison didn't really show much at all given the settings difference in that situation.

  • @BorisTheShashlikKing
    @BorisTheShashlikKing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Guys I hope you noticed that you blurred the license plates on your car for only one scene. It’s very visible in other scenes

  • @steveslack4750
    @steveslack4750 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's like the typewriter and the laptop...The typewriter (5Div) is the best of where we've come from. The laptop (R5) is the best of where we're going (if you're a Canon shooter) I sold my 5Div, with heavy heart, because i know i just won't use it when i get my hands on the R5. Thought i may as well cash in while they're still worth something on the used market. Also, as Chelsea points out the RF 70-200 f2.8 is a thing of beauty (like Chelsea).
    I own the RF 70-200, and it's amazing in every way. To be able to fit a mirrorless body, with that lens attached in a small messenger bag is witchcraft!

  • @RockyColaFizz
    @RockyColaFizz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The R5 video handheld footage looks great.

    • @TonyAndChelsea
      @TonyAndChelsea  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah the stabilization is amazing

  • @tikkathreebarrels
    @tikkathreebarrels 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're persuading me. I'm currently still using 5DII with L and legacy glass. The upgrade isn't a "need" so much as an "itch". You are fast forwarding me from 5DII which I'll keep to R5: thanks!!

  • @r1rob504
    @r1rob504 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The EVF lag vs OVF is still an issue for me and why I would choose the 1dx3 over the R5. For now my 5dMk4 works great, but seemed a bit dated after shooting with the 1dx3 for a day. I like the R5’s eye tracking features and IBIS and think they should be standard with the 1dx3. Perhaps the rumored R1will include an EVF/OVF hybrid option combining the best features of both cameras.

  • @Be-Es---___
    @Be-Es---___ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10:40
    What microphone did you use.
    It sounds horrible.

  • @gibbsm
    @gibbsm ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I get the shot, not the camera ;). I have done a wedding with a Mark II, and manual Pentax lenses from the 70's. and It turned out great. I'm half kidding, I'ld love to have all the bells and whistles of the 'new' stuff.

  • @adriankelly_edinburgh
    @adriankelly_edinburgh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this, guys. I'm an amateur and I'm about to upgrade from my ageing Canon EOS 6D which I've owned for 9 years and which I really like (generally attached to my 24-105 F4L lens). I'd been considering buying a 5D mk IV to replace it along with a 70-200 F2.8L, which I'd always coveted but I've just noticed that I can buy an R5 and EF adapter for virtually the same money (in the UK). I think that's what I'm going to do and I'll save for some new 'R' glass later, since the R5 does seem like such an upgrade (especially with the new, major firmware update about to land). The EF L lenses were always so highly regarded that I'd thought that there wasn't much room for improvement but your video has shown me otherwise!

  • @4ksydneyeventvideographer806
    @4ksydneyeventvideographer806 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lets stop the pretences everyone. The R5 was supposed to revolutionise the industry, but got shot- down in flames !
    Give me a Nikon D850, or a Sony A9, A74x or a Panasonic S1h or even Fuji Xt4 any day and I will feel much more confident !
    Tony, You put a lot of effort in your productions, great, but here you are pushing Canon unrealistically (@ 4:40). "a wonderful upgrade" ? IT is NOT ! Not if 8k is it's "main claim to fame"
    But By the time I get the actors and set crew into positions, the damn thing shuts off !
    1. The R5 image is softer than the old 1DX, or 5dx.
    2. 8K> 4k conversion is not even as good as any Panasonic 4k, not even the Gh5, or old Nikon. (Nikon has better color than Canon according to a few artists I had questioned), Canon is crunching it's shadows in camera.
    3. Canon has always charged us like a "Wounded Bull", It's expensive with no work during Covid at the moment.
    4. The Sony's AF is more spot-on (Models after A7iii)
    5. R5 = The worst overheating camera in history ! worst still, The cool-down recovery, even after the firmware upgrade, is marginal but still a joke, particularly in the 21st century !
    The R5 is a piece of junk even in cool weather. Why should I put the Camera in the freezer after only a few minutes?
    6. The data is far too big to process anyway, results can NOT justify the time and effort storing/ retrieving / edit.
    7. The stills photos are good but that's due to the RF lense, not the Camera. I can stick The RF lens on any brand and get reliability and better image if need be.
    .
    The RP is a bicycle with training wheels. give me an Olympus anyone ! Yes, the original mirrorless, together with panasonic (Full frame is not a God).
    BTW: I take a 3 year old Pana GH5 with me (in the boot of a car) on important shoots in case the other F.Frames fail as everyone of them seems to have a crippled feature.
    Sometimes I do serious work on the much cheaper Gh5 with minimal attachments, The clients don't care, because they know me as the "Tradesman/ artist" rather than the "trendy show-off" with the big camera.
    1DX is the the other reliable camera one must say.
    Canon made a big mistake here and no one is brave enough to say it.
    If they convert the R5 into a 4k camera that won't overheat I may reconsider. It's not a grudge match, just disappointment.
    May be we should all wait for the C70 !

  • @goed_gamen4883
    @goed_gamen4883 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    love the video. but i don't know what happened to your audio lately it really sucks with headset on almost unwatchable. hope you'll find a fix. a lot of the time double audio as well

  • @ytr8989
    @ytr8989 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Mirrorless have their limitations. The DSLR is just more of a sturdy, relatable work horse. The Canon 5D Mark IV has the better image quality, better dynamic range, better color accuracy, faster start up and mode selection, no shutter lag, faster autofocus, etc. The mirrorless still haven’t caught up to DSLR standards.

    • @TamerZiadyofIntuitiveDesign
      @TamerZiadyofIntuitiveDesign 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      they haven't. But they will quickly overtake them. I don't believe that has happened yet.

  • @singoutloudwithme1897
    @singoutloudwithme1897 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Tony and Chelsea, Thank you for all the effort you put into your videos. They are extremely well done and informative. You are both very generous with your knowledge. I really appreciate it. I have learned a lot from watching your videos and thank you very much. Tony - you have an incisive mind and are kind enough to share your in depth knowledge of the math of photography. Chelsea you are so very charming and get what many women struggle with - thank you:)) You are lovely people - both of you. Thank you so very much.

  • @dionisissyr4171
    @dionisissyr4171 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can an experienced Canon user tell me which camera should i choose for portraits, landscapes and wildlife? Canon 5Ds or Canon 5D IV? Nice review anyway.

    • @dimitristsagdis7340
      @dimitristsagdis7340 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you plan to be pushing the ISOs and take 7fps 5DIV if you have the light and click at a 3fps pace the 5Ds.

  • @wickjohn6149
    @wickjohn6149 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Canon R5 defaults to 1/1 full power flashes consistently when TTL and HSS used at any shutter speed faster than 1/250 sec.
    In addition, Bracketing of any kind is not successful-be it flash bracketing or AEB, as the Z cameras are able to do with flash.
    Gear tested:
    Canon R5
    Flashpoint PRO2 MK2 Trigger
    Flashpoint AD1200 PRO
    Flashpoint AD600 PRO TTL
    Flashpoint AD200.
    All gear on latest firmware.
    Submitted for user testing,consensus,and hopeful reporting to the manufacturers.

  • @pensrud
    @pensrud 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    yeah. articulating screen. "Lay on the ground." Have this issue all the time. And in the snow or surrounded by cacti, not ideal. Snow not so much an issue if in the right gear, but getting low in the desert can be painful, and dangerous. Damn you cholla cactus. Love my 5d markIV. But strongly looking at the r5.

  • @minusinfinity6974
    @minusinfinity6974 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    LOL as the owner of a 5DIV who thought it was very nice, the D850 is a much better camera all round, especially for AF and IQ is noticeably better, also has a ton more features and much better 4K video. Canon did as little as they could to update the 5D3.

  • @shaungibbs7400
    @shaungibbs7400 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I agree with this comparison entirely.
    Got the R5 on release in July and sold the 5D mk IV and 5DSr to fund it.
    Doing my first full mirrorless wedding with the R5 tomorrow and R as a backup.
    Will see how it goes.

    • @ILaxative
      @ILaxative 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Update? Lol would you go back to the mark IV?

    • @shaungibbs7400
      @shaungibbs7400 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ILaxative It works great thanks. It is a dream wedding camera for eye AF. Won't go back to dslrs again.

    • @ILaxative
      @ILaxative 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@shaungibbs7400 that seals the deal for me. I’m buying one tomorrow to pair with my c300 mkiii

    • @shaungibbs7400
      @shaungibbs7400 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ILaxative Excellent. You'll be happy indeed.
      For example when bridesmaids are walking toward you in procession one at time (with 70-200mm), once it is locked on the eye all I have to do is keep good composition and zoom out slowly as they get closer without moving and not worry about focus as it is so good. Extremely high keeper rate, if not all.
      I use servo and Eye AF tracking and slow burst mode for walking speed e.g. 3fps.

  • @רפאלעדוי
    @רפאלעדוי 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Because it's only 20 megapixels does that mean less image sharpness?

  • @thejohnnerparty
    @thejohnnerparty 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The only question I have about mirrorless is: "How much delay from the sensor to the EVF?" Is it a problem when shooting action like sports? Is what you see (in the EVF) the same as the shot you record?

  • @downlink_x
    @downlink_x 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have TWO R5 with the 85 f1.2 L RF & 24-70 f2.0 L RF.....and it was the BEST decision! This camera is SO good and a huge upgrade to my old 5D3!

  • @Daxelinho9
    @Daxelinho9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The only thing that bugs me about mirrorless (especially the cheaper ones for around 1000€) is the size. They are way to small for my preference and lack buttons and dials.
    I'm looking to buy a new one right now and there are not very much options for me. I have a few decent APS-C lenses so I'm looking for APS-C and theres the M6 Mk2 and the 90D and I would rather buy the 90D tbh.

    • @stephenwalker7721
      @stephenwalker7721 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I feel you. I have and love my Canon M50 but when I pick up and hold my Canon T6, I wish the grip and body size was as good as the T6.

  • @naverich4603
    @naverich4603 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a huge dilemma. I have Canon 80D and I want to start making music videos and commercials and eventually start making movies so basically I have to move to something with a bigger range than 80D. Of course it is easier to rent an equipment for movies, you just wont spend that much money on Arri Alexa yourself. So I am thinking if I am not going to buy Arri Alexa myself in the future then I only need a camera for commercials and music videos and my question is whether I should go to Canon 5D mark IV or to something even bigger as Canon C series lets say....I am not sure. I want to start with 80D and save to buy a professional camera that I could make professional work on.

  • @TheFirstRealChewy
    @TheFirstRealChewy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The R5 looks great and I'm sure the Mark II will be great. That said, the older cameras are still awesome depending on your needs. I still use two 5D mark IIIs today. I bought the second one as a backup for around $400 sometime ago and now considering buying a 5D mark IV.
    I'll eventually move to the R5 line, but for now the end results are still great with the older hardware.

  • @77dris
    @77dris 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The colours on the 5D IV video were amazing! Were the 5D and R5 both using the same profiles?

  • @gary_black
    @gary_black 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For all the types of shots in this video, the original R would have had the same picture quality as the 5DIV but with the benefit of EVF, eye focus, RF glass, tilt screen, etc. And less than half the price of the R5. The OG R is way more camera than it gets credit for.

  • @yedijaluhur
    @yedijaluhur 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    R5 definitely superior to use.. feature are much better minus OVF only..
    But on your video, you are not using 5D4 liveview at all.. while 5D4 with liveview is basically mirrorless camera, its as fast as R5, minus face tracking 2.0

  • @michaelweldon5471
    @michaelweldon5471 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Tony, Chelsea I personally enjoyed the content that you presented in this video, so Thank You for what you do!!!

  • @MichaelCTruth
    @MichaelCTruth 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    One thing to remember is that camera bodies come and go. Like Tony says dont spend all your money on a fancy expensive camera.
    You can improve your photography greatly by purchasing lenses and lighting. Good lighting can make a $300 camera look excellent. Understanding light is the key to photography.
    There is a Vanessa Joy video out where she is shooting portraits of a girl on this porch. It's pretty recent. At one point she is using a canon cam around $650 and the images are killer.

  • @momchilyordanov8190
    @momchilyordanov8190 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ever since I moved from DSLR to mirrorless, I started to expect some features, that the older cameras were not giving me. Completely silent shooting is one. IBIS is the other. There are more things, like real time exposure and not having to calibrate a given lens to a given body. These come as a bonus. In short - the new tech is better. And I'm not trying to convince you. Just sharing my experience and conclusion.

  • @cayden7725
    @cayden7725 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Haha, my 5D3 is still serving me well, but... Maybe Santa will come in clutch 🤣

  • @purenupe1
    @purenupe1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    5DIV the greatest DSLR? I dont believe that is based in fact.

    • @lilnape2604
      @lilnape2604 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Everybody knows it’s the D850

  • @pedrohernandez-ss9fg
    @pedrohernandez-ss9fg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like landscape and wildlife shooting.I'm not interested in video work at all. Ive been looking to upgrade to a full size censor camera, possibly mirrorless. I absolutely need an articulating rear screen that is why the Canon 5D mark4 is out. I forgot to mention that I'm presently using a Canon 90D and have lenses. I would prefer to stay with Canon. My question is, what Canon full frame camera would you recumbent?

  • @starrshine5976
    @starrshine5976 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Question: What features of these cameras will trickle down to a Rebel?

    • @JohnDrummondPhoto
      @JohnDrummondPhoto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      None. Canon are done with DSLR development. They want you to get an RP or whatever replaces it as its lowest-priced mirrorless FF model.

  • @JohnDrummondPhoto
    @JohnDrummondPhoto 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who says you can't travel? Come to upstate New York! The Adirondack region is getting fall foliage now and you won't have to self-quarantine when you return. I just left Lake George. Drove past Saratoga in the way home. It's beautiful right now!
    P.S. I'm pitting my R6 against my own 5D Mark IV. Yes, fewer MP but almost everything else about the R6 seems better.

  • @Saugerdees
    @Saugerdees 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My main problem with the R5 is the H.265 codec makes the video useless for editing in Premiere... :(

  • @kroomiester
    @kroomiester 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’d like to know if it’s worth it to switch from a D850 (seeing as this is the SLR you guys still use as far as I know) to a mirrorless - either a Canon R5 or Sony A7RIV. I get this video is for canon shooters, but I don’t feel married to any one brand as I can sell my body and most of my lenses in any system pretty easily.

  • @greenepm
    @greenepm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How well does the R5 and adapter work with Tamron lenses? I have a mix of Canon and Tamron, but I use the Tamron lenses most often.

    • @youknowwho9247
      @youknowwho9247 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tried third party glass on nikon mirrorless with their adapter, and that was a disaster. Can't imagine its going to be much better on canon.

  • @hashemhashem1983
    @hashemhashem1983 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am new to photography, at the beginning of this year the company that I work with got us a DSLR camera, and just few weeks ago I got myself a mirrorless camera, the Canon M50, I have noticed the difference in the few finder as if the mirrorless make things looks easier

  • @denzelmahlatse3606
    @denzelmahlatse3606 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just curious, which camera and lenses did you use to shot this video?

  • @Bladers97
    @Bladers97 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could you do the R6 vs 5DMarkIII? Im thinking of upgrading to mirrorless but Im curious if theres a big difference? I usually shoot through liveview because my hobby is automotive photography and the focus on the 5D is pretty slow. Curious if the R6 fixed it? Thank you, keep up the content!

  • @EstoyAburridoJUGUEMOS
    @EstoyAburridoJUGUEMOS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Taking like mirrorless is a revolution, Lumix, Sony and Fuji have had this "features" since 2013 (Lumix more than a decade ago), also 5d4 the best DSLR? Didn't this channel trashed the 5d over the Nikon d850?

  • @AndrewSowerby
    @AndrewSowerby 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's with the weird shuddering of the image in the EVF on the R5 at 7:38 when the shutter is firing?

  • @4evadunkley
    @4evadunkley 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wait, so you blue the license plates in one shot but not the next two?

  • @NickHansonPhotography
    @NickHansonPhotography 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What was with Chelsea's audio, it sounded like she was inside an empty room?
    EDIT: Even some of Tony's was weird.

  • @stelapaya
    @stelapaya 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for another great video. Where would the EOS R sit between these two cameras for a stills photographer (no video)? Would it provide some of the advantages of the the R5 without breaking the bank? Would image quality (especially with RF lenses) be as good (better?) than the Mark IV? Thanks.

  • @Luigi13
    @Luigi13 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Tony, Canon has a better autofocus than Nikon looks like. After using the Nikon Z7 for three weeks I finally returned it. I used the adapter with my other lenses and the performance was not that great, I tried the IBIS and I was not that impressed, I could get similar results with the D-810 and the lenses I use. Battery doesn't last as long too, so even though I purchased it refurbished I decided it doesn't serve me for what I do. The only thing I like is the screen because it tilts, so I am looking forward for the D-850 instead. The D850 is proved and tested to have a good autofocus and since now I have two XQD cards and a reader I will go for the D850. You and your wife used it quite extensively right? Do you still use it? Or you guys change cameras frequently? Good video.

  • @ank28mz
    @ank28mz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    When Chelsea says its Got EVF in the beginning, then that clip looks like it back focussed by a huge margin...
    please correct me..

  • @JonathanBarrow
    @JonathanBarrow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    blurs license plates*
    shows them in the next clip*
    lmao

    • @mathewalex
      @mathewalex 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So true 😂😂

    • @jamesdarnell8568
      @jamesdarnell8568 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm sure Tony was just practicing pixelating in case he needs to do it at some future date.

  • @view23015
    @view23015 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video , but once again the audio is not great in so many areas . I’m sure this is on purpose to show/prove how important audio is to a video shoot . We all like /demand 4K or even 8 k , but on our cell phones or tablets can barely see a difference , but the audio differences punch us in the face and ears right away .
    You’ve made your point - please , go back to your great audio quality ! Please

  • @thehun66
    @thehun66 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would be nice if Canon would make the R5 without the video as an option.The camera would be much less than the current price.Probably half the price!!!

  • @OlegStratienko
    @OlegStratienko 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Colors and highlights are much better on 5d mk iv, you can see it very well on last photo comparison on the stone. The big stone on the right side much more contrast and colorful, and have more details. On the r5 is flat. All new canon cameras have yellow and flat pictures… it’s a pity…

  • @jan-martinulvag1962
    @jan-martinulvag1962 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:39 so that is the way to shoot paintings for printing big