Beretta 1915: the First of the Beretta Pistols
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The Italian military went into WWI having already adopted a semiautomatic sidearm - the Model 1910 Glisenti (and its somewhat simplified Brixia cousin). However, the 1910 Glisenti was a very complex design, and much too expensive to be practical for the needs of the global cataclysm that was the Great War. In response to a need for something cheaper, Tulio Marengoni of the Beretta company designed the Model 1915, a simple blowback handgun chambered for the 9mm Glisenti cartridge.
Only 15,300 of the Model 1915 pistol were made, because even they proved to be a bit more than the military really needed. One of their most interesting mechanical features is a pair of manual safeties - one on the back of the frame to lock the hammer and one on the left side to block the trigger. This proved a bit redundant, and the gun overall was rather large and heavy. In 1917 a scaled-down version in .32 ACP (7.65mm) was introduced which would be produced in much larger numbers. The 1915/17 would also omit the rather unnecessary hammer safety.
It is important to note that while the 9mm Glisenti cartridge is dimensionally interchangeable with 9x19 Parabellum, pistols designed for the Glisenti cartridge should never be used with standard 9x19 ammunition, as it is nearly 50% more powerful than the Glisenti specs, and doing so will quickly cause damage (and potentially catastrophic failure).
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amazing how much you can see the M92 in this.
Idk if that's a good thing
@@some_guy.yes because the Beretta 92 is great
@@Scarp7141 noooo it's not
@@Scarp7141 That's right.. If it ain't broke don't fix it.. In my opinion, they got it right the first time!
@@bobbyhempel1513 you’re probably thinking of the US military variant, which uses outdated parts and aren’t maintained as well as it’s more modern civilian counterpart.
*lifts barrel out of the gun*
Mind-Blown
*Smoothly disassembles gun*
"Uohh!!!!"
My pants were creamed at how smooth that was.
and its a Beretta... i need some paper towels after that
Love Beretta. That disconnect is Italian Engineering personified. Beautiful and elegant. As is the hammer safety for safing the pistol holstered. Bella!!
From what I've seen, the field strip of this pistol is fairly simple.
It consists of only three steps (after the normal precautions have been taken):
1. Engage the safety.
2. Pull the slide back until the safety engages the second notch.
3. Do the hippie-hippie shake.
Legit.
The 7.65 guns are so pleasant to shoot. I keep coming back to this video every year or so because I have been slowly researching and restoring a 1915/17 that my great grandfather got overseas. Main problem I have is the recoil spring is broken which I think I have solved. And it has home made clear plastic grips that are ill fitting. I found a parts kit online that had one grip in it so now that it should be functioning again I will use that grip as a template to make new wood grips or try to find a set of OE grips.
Wish I'd seen this before Piero Begali took me to tour the Beretta factory last year. What a trip! I have never seen such a beautifully open, clean and hospitable factory space. And the entire crew -- some 150 people -- were all so friendly. They seemed to have a serious team spirit about their work and their place of employment.
. . . And the historical collection of firearms, going back to the 1500s if I remember correctly, was absolutely amazing. If I'd seen this video before that tour, I would have been able to relate what I saw at that museum/collection to what has come since from Beretta. Thanks for the tour of this piece. And for reminding me of a great memory.
This is probably one of the most beautiful disassembly ever.
The design of that pistol is awesome, It approaches Zippo lighter simplicity! I don't know if I've ever seen a easier military pistol (esp. of that ear "take down" that fast!
Imagine Beretta produce this again but with modern manufacturing technique, technology and metallurgy.
I would absolutely get one!
The disassembly of this pistol is awesome. That is easier then many modern pistols.
This would be great for my collection. I even still get to shot it. I just have to use downloaded 9mm. Should be easy on the brass too so I can get more reloads in for that batch.
You did a great job breaking down the mechanics of this beretta along with some awesome camera work.
i can see the 92f in it
The simplicity of this pistol is impressive especially considering the complexity of a lot of pistols from around the same time. It would be cool to own one.
hiota45 Want one?
Wow. If Ian is calling this a nice one then the the one i just picked up should be in a museum. Time to load up some low power 9mm and shoot it. Looking forward to shooting the first ever beretta handgun model made. Guess not too many people can say they did that.
Careful with 9mm ammo tho
A very nice pistol. Well engineered and completely serviceable. Great post, Ian!
this was ahead of its time safeties easy take down people talk trash about Beretta but it's been on the line the respect in the workmanship of the gun
Anyone talking smack on Beretta clearly doesn't know their firearms all that well, they're one of (if not THE) oldest gun manufacturers in the business starting in the early 1500s. You don't stay in business that long without knowing how to sell a good product.
@@banmadabon after all, it's not like Colt has achieved much. For over 50 years now, all they've really been selling are 1911s, AR-15s and reproductions of older revolvers. They haven't really designed anything that became popular themselves for a while now.
The only people i have seen talking trash of Beretta was in that stupid James Bond movie from 1962
That little catch on the chamber end of the barrel hugely resembles the one used on Beretta’s tip-up barrel guns. It’s amazing how clear the lineage between this and their other pistols is.
"casa fondata nel...eighteen-eighty" hahaha loved that Ian
Here's something you can add to your quite vast knowledge: 1880 in italian is "milleottocentoottanta" where mille=one thousand, ottocento=eight hundred(otto=eight, cento=hundred) and ottanta=eighty
Great video as always
Pretty sure that was 1680 and not 1880.
Andrea Tomassini lcool piece
So, "grazie mille" basically means "thank you thousand"?
@@stevenbobbybills "Grazie mille" is like say "thanks" for one thousand time, it's like thank you a lot.
"Casa Fondata 1680" NOT 1880!!!
That foundation date has now been retro dated to 1586!! Due to discovery of older records in P.Beretta Archives...an order for musket barrels by the Venetian Republic to their Arsenal ( Shipyard) for assembly into Matchlocks.
Doc AV
I can clealy read 1880 at 10:12 No way it could have stamped as 1680. Or was it mis-stamped on this particular gun ?
Redundant and unnecessary. That made my day. Clever wordplay is just a beautiful thing.
Beretta has always known how to make a great looking handgun
Looks like a Beretta 92 had sex with a tt-33 tokarev and it gave birth to that! Lol
It's probably for the best
Funny, i knew chick with Italian father and Russian mom. No big surprise, she was crazy bitch...
I'd say beretta 92 and a browning 1903
This is a very simple and efficient gun for that era. And another one of those old guns I see selling for cheap (dont know why!?)... As far as obsolete ammo goes this has got to be the easiest to deal with since its the most common pistol caliber just downloaded lol. Lots of info and well explained, thanks Ian.
Wow, this is a very simple sidearm. Simple and effective.
That must be the easiest gun to disassemble ever
Nah, hi points disassemble themselves for ya once you put half a box of ammo through it
Soldiers must have loved that simplicity and small number of parts.
Alexander Simcox actually demolition ranch had to shove a bolt down the barrel of a highpoint to get it to blow up.
All Beretta are really easy to disassemble. I would say the PX4 Storm May be the easiest.
@@spankthemonkey3437 hi points are crap
I cannot stop watching all of your videos. It's going on a week now.
Beretta is the oldest firearms manufacter, I think. It actually dates to the 16th century. I find that to be quite amazing. Did they ever make revolvers, before semi automatics?
No, first than the M1915 Beretta was a dedicated producer of shotguns. Being in the business since 16th century is well likely they made many flintlock pistols in the past centuries, but the M1915 was the first modern design.
Man, Berettas are really beautiful guns. Been drooling all over a 92 inox for years now. i need to get a handgun license. :)
Hehe. Yeah, 92's look cool, but if you handle a CZ 75 you will be a convert, trust me XD. It has a better fit imo. I would try to handle as many as you could and see which fits best.
ive got fat american sausage fingers, so i find both rather comfortable to shoot.
zachp97 Same lol
That disassembly makes me happy.
Love those old pistol designs, gorgeous, simple mecanism, an awesome piece of Engineering history
One of the best pistols in BF1
The "unnecessary" in "redundant and unnecessary " is redundant and unnecessary
he works for the office of redundancy office
I did get the point across though, right? :)
Try to tell to an aeronautical engineer that "redundant" means "unnecessary".
I'll let that one slide *waxes mustache*
It isn't, something being redundant doesn't necessarily mean its unnecessary.
Ian, how does this cartridge compare to 9mm Makarov in terms of power, velocity, muzzle energy, etc?
Oops, had the same question :)
When I was 18, I had one of these in 7.65. I wish I had never got rid of it. Now I have a model 34 in .380
shinobi1kenobi75 I have a 9m version just like this one.
Neat gun. Very simple too.
Another excellent and very informative video. Is there a chance for a video of the development of the Beretta pistols?
Looks like it held up nicely over the years - that dent on the hammer from repeatedly smacking the firing pin shows lots of use, but on the overall, the pistol still looks solid after all of this time.
Isn't Beretta also the oldest company, not just the oldest gun maker? I know they're family owned, but that's pretty much all I know about them.
I always have liked the Beretta for a conceal carry gun, the smaller 32 or 380's and perhaps even the .25, I have had several over the years but nothing this oldl
As an IT Admin in my first few years, I am not able to buy any of these things right now. Which sucks. Though, this Beretta is a bit unaesthetic for me. But love your videos man, keep em' coming.
One of these is being sold with a Kongsberg Colt in this auction, and looks to be a neat example (if anyone's interested)
Also, I enjoyed your article in the American Rifleman I just got about the Mosin
Absolutely love your channel, very informative.
Never stop lol.
The way that disassembles is so cool!
Very clever system design. modern pistol should adopt this system and modernize it.
Another really well done and through vid. Thanks!
That trigger must be very nice, due to the nature of the mechanism
What a cool, simple gun!
Man this is incredibly advanced for the time
This gun is back then is way ahead of its time
_Finally another italian weapon!_
Hey Ian, did you already had a chance on putting your hands on a Carcano or other italian guns? Do you think we will see them soon?
The Carcano is not a forgotten weapon, an Italian firearm I actually would love to see is a Berretta Model 1918 SMG.
Actually that one would be a really cool one!
_Or peraphs a MAB M-38 could be also nice_
TheOtakuComrade The Villar Perospa (no idea if I spelled it right) would be a great weapon to cover, as not many people really know about it.
Well...those were issued in limited batches to élite units, or mounted on planes as experimental arial guns
_*Those things had a fire rate of about 2.000 rpm*_
-This if you are refering to that derpy two magazines-fed sub machine guns
*Anyway, it is spelled "Villar-Perosa"
I just filmed a Villar Perosa video yesterday, although it may be a little while before it publishes.
That is a really neat piece of history.
"It is important to note that while the 9mm Glisenti cartridge is dimensionally interchangeable with 9x19 Parabellum, pistols designed for the Glisenti cartridge should *never* be used with standard 9x19 ammunition, as it is nearly 50% more powerful than the Glisenti specs, and doing so will quickly cause damage (and potentially catastrophic failure."
says the noted beneath the screen of the video.
My suspicious mind suggests this may be a reason to remove Glisenti pistols and pistols so chambered from active service.
I have (right here on the desk) a Beretta pistol in 7.65mm (aka .32 ACP). The slide is marked "Brev 1915-1919-" I understand the 'brev' (short for 'brevetto' is the Italian word 'patent') and of note, has the same 'slip action' disconnector as the pistol shown. I wonder why the disconnector was changed in later models (like the 1934 and 1935)? I am delighted to see the early disconnecter in another model.
Bravo! Excellent job Ian!
Great explanation as usual!
The flat spring is doubling as the sear besides working as the disconnector spring. Clever.
9mm Glisenti is why "If it seats, it yeets" is bad advice.
Okay Ian, Often 5000 of a particular weapon are made for the civilian market but after 100 years only 12 are still known to exist. What 'kills' civilian pistols? What kills civilian rifles? Of these reasons can you rank them as to which reasons destroy the most weapons. I'm interested in the same subject for firearms issued to the military but as a seperate list since things like combat losses would not apply (as much) to the civilian weapons.
governments destroy most firearms to make sure civilians dont get their hands on them ! funny, why would governments want to destroy all weapons apart from their own weapons ?
Man oh man this is made for the military but this seems like the perfect gun for someone who's just the casual shooter to own
I have one in .32 acp but it's stamped "1915 1919" on the slide. What did they do to the gun design in 1919? Mine was made in 1928 by the way. Edit: by the way, can it withstand modern ammo? I've shot it a few times with no problems.
10:01: 1680 (not "1880"). However, the correct year of foundation of the Beretta company is 1526.
IF Beretta had done this in 9mm Parabellum, it would have been one of the better pistols at least of the first half of the 20th Century. Indeed I have to load mine 33% less, shoots super.
wow thats super simple to dismantle
Cool lookin gun for its day..
dat disassembly doe
that's a slick design
may I ask have any information on the various 'models' of the 81? As you can imagine the flooding of the market for the one magazine beretta 81's that are coming in would probably be a great reason to review the Beretta 81! Thanks
Cool video. I think you may have stumbled on the battery of arms for reloading. When you locked the slide back with the safety for disassembly, that action may also be part of the sequence for reloading. I'm nothing more than an am mature history nut. However, it seems logical that upon last round slide lock, the shooter would engage the safety, remove the magazine, reinsert a full magazine, then disengage the safety. The disengaging of the safety would chamber a round and make the weapon ready to fire. Now, I have zero actual historical evidence of this, only speculation. But I'm curious on your thoughts
Fun tip, that's spelled "Amateur". It comes from the latin word "Amator", which means lover. IE you do it because you love it, not because you get payed.
Was going to post the same thing, this makes a lot of sense and gives a strong reason for the hammer safety existing at all
+YCCCm7 *shrug* grammar nazi's gonna nazi
1)it's TH-cam, not English 301
2)I'm typing from an ipotato
3)I was going to change it, then you goose stepped right on in, so I think it stays
+DamianHobbes the hammer safety almost seems more like a disassembly safety. Remember ian did note that the hammer spring was particularly stout. I can see the hammer safety not be for actual firing, but for prevention of accidental hammer falls causing frame damage while disassembled. That wood *wink* also make since with the hammer safeties removal in later models, presumably because it was discovered to be superfluous.
It makes sense, look at the Steyr Hahn which has a similar system
I don't know how I didn't spot this video earlier. As someone who designs guns he lacks the tools to make for a hobby...
I'll just take that trigger design, and like, walk over here with it...
I have a friend who has a 1935-1934 cal9 corts calaber 380 berettaSS # 3906BB engraved and in a presentation box. was taken off a general officer during ww2 . Beretta has said that the manufacture building was bombed during the war and that they are not able to trace the SS#.3906BB do you are any of your followers have any ideas about this gun. history or calue.
that pistol looks a lot like a Mauser 1914 (and 1934), the way it comes apart is similar too
My 1st thought
I have noticed similarities between the Glisenti pistol and the Type 14 Nambu pistol, particularly in its method of operation. Any chance Nambu copied it and "improved" it?
The Nambu predates the Glisenti; and both takes ideas from the Mauser C96.
Man they really ran with that exposed barrel thing.
Excelente video...Very TKS!
Looks like a Tokarev and a Nambu had a little too much fun together...
1915 for beretta is like 2005 for us, jsut a few years ago
Would sub-sonic 9mm Luger be safe to fire from a 9mm Glisenti handgun?
No.
Forgotten Weapons If you reduce the powder charge of a 9mm parabellum round would that work without damaging the firearm?
Nice gun, great video.
Do i get it right that the disconnector isn operated by slide by any means, and just relies on the timing of the action?
The first gun with open slide was the Walther Model 1 of 1906
And their Shotguns are awesome
Love my 92 fs
i can see a potential flaw with that rear safety, it could lead to an accidental discharge if the hammer doesn't reengage properly on the sear after the gun has been "dry-fired"
What does an AB marking on the 1915 mean? .32 My Grandmother carried one in her hand bag all the time.
Does that PS marking stand for Polizia di Stato?
Pubblica Sicurezza. State Police did not exist at that time with this name.
Very simple hammer mechanism were there field full auto convergences?
Like italian art the best looking guns ever made.
If you apply the hammer safety then pull the trigger, is there enough movement before the safety catches so that the hammer is disengaged from the hammer sear? If so, could it either jam up the hammer safety lever or cause the gun to fire once the hammer safety is removed?
No, the hammer is held right in its cocked position and doesn't have any room for movement when the hammer safety is engaged.
Holy shit I'm early, good work Ian, keep it up.
Ingenious.
They made a .25 auto my father had one stamped 1910 it was in a holster made from a nazi era Large holster possibly a p.38 since it had waffenampt stamp's on it.
TH-cam only suggests fw videos for me now and I love it....this is gun Jesus tube from now on someone make me an icon pack
the first semi-auto pistol, that is, since Beretta is manufacturing pistols since the 16th century
So if 9mm Glisenti is basically a neutered 9mm Para, it shouldn't be too hard to reload for it right? Would it be able to handle subsonic 9mm Para or even standard .380 ACP?
To reload 9mm para to 9mm Glisenti specs is how those rounds are usually made, but the right reloading specs have to be used (do not use the "4 grains bullseye" that's often repeated in the English speaking world. that's a specific load for the "Villar Perosa" SMG. The original load is more 3.3 grains bullseye). Commercial subsonic 9mm Para are not right, since they usually are subsonic tanks to a heavier bullet.
I love this pistol
maybe a newbie's question, but why some guns can be dry fired, and some not? It's easy to see why on percussion cap systems, but what about cartridge guns?
With rim fire you can damage the firing pin on back of the breach think the same with some others with firing pin over travel. but I'm no expert gun jesus
This pistol reminds me of the Ruby.
Bruh i always thought they started their pistols in the 70s
looking for firing pin & spring for this pistol.
il duce may have used one of these during his early days as a army sgt.
Wow. That thing is thicker and much more bulky than a 1911 yet isn't even a full powered 9mm! I would have gone 1911 anyway.
Well, really not. The M1915 is a full size pistol, not a compact, but The 1911 is bigger in every dimension. The 1911 is 32mm tick, 210mm long, and 136mm high, and weights 1105g without cartridges. The Beretta M1915 is 29mm X 171mm X 131mm, and weights 850g. The 1911, thanks to a long refinement process started with the 1900, was ergonomically very comfortable for those days despite the dimensions. It would be interesting to hear a comparison with the Beretta 1915 in this respect.