Dreyse 1910: An Attempted WW1 9mm Pistol

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  • @MortusArtis
    @MortusArtis 7 ปีที่แล้ว +217

    A family member of mine, his mother was a nurse in the Canadian army during WWII and had a German officer as a patient who surrendered his pocket pistol to her, it was a Dreyse M1907. I got to hold it when I was a kid and he told me that story, just remembered that story, figured I'd share.

    • @wallaroo1295
      @wallaroo1295 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Cool story! (I don't mean that in the sarcastic manner.) I wonder what happened to that old pistol. You should see if you can find it, what a great followup to your tale! Best of luck!

    • @isaiahjgomez1501
      @isaiahjgomez1501 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s pretty awesome, does it happen to still be in the family? That’s a great momento!

    • @MortusArtis
      @MortusArtis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      WALLAROO Family members that owned it became estranged from the rest of the family and later died from drinking, so I don’t know what happened to it unfortunately.😪

    • @wallaroo1295
      @wallaroo1295 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@MortusArtis I'm sorry to hear that. But, I understand - my family is kind of a wreck too... Sometimes, even though separating from toxic family is very painful, it is for the best.
      Perhaps, you will be able to buy Dryse someday. Since you would not have known the serial number, that means just about any one of them you buy, *could* be that very same pistol.

  • @SlavicCelery
    @SlavicCelery 7 ปีที่แล้ว +447

    Seeing WWI era guns getting disassembled really explains why the Browning style handguns really dominated the market.

    • @Gojiro7
      @Gojiro7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Simplicity is king, there isn't a industry alive where the most simple version isn't the best.

    • @SlavicCelery
      @SlavicCelery 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@Gojiro7 Congrats on replying to my comment from 2017. What a simpler time that was eh?
      I would say that the electronics industry is one where the simple version isn't always the best. The Raspberry Pi is the simplest item. But is it the best?

    • @allangibson8494
      @allangibson8494 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      They didn’t until after WW1. Restrictions on firearms manufactured in Germany and Austria killed off a lot of smaller European brands leaving American and Belgian brands with the market - both making Browning designs.

    • @SlavicCelery
      @SlavicCelery 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@allangibson8494 I really don't think that in the absence of the post war restrictions, the handgun development would look that different from today. Once the various patents ran out, short recoil tilting barrels will dominate the action type as far as pistols are concerned.
      With all the time since then the top two actions are still, Tilting Barrel short recoil, and blowback. Yes there still is the falling block, ala Beretta and rotating barrel designs. Other designs are much more limited use, delayed blowback (gas, lever, roller), pederson, etc. But cost and efficiency has shown that the tilting barrel is the most cost effective/package friendly systems. I don't think that would change.

    • @LUR1FAX
      @LUR1FAX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Gojiro7 Except for software and computer hardware, perhaps. Though that depends on what you mean by simple.

  • @Piotwor
    @Piotwor 7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Man, when compared to other designs from that time, the 1911 really is a timeless gun.

  • @JPisOlaf
    @JPisOlaf 7 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    Will the red table collection ever end? Would definetely love to see an overview of this amazing collection.

  • @thegoldencaulk2742
    @thegoldencaulk2742 7 ปีที่แล้ว +251

    Ah, the ol' red table and fireplace. How I've missed your many oddities and rarities.

    • @maciejpociecha6357
      @maciejpociecha6357 7 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      TheGoldenCaulk 1980s coke dealer's house, I'm telling you...

  • @eVVigilance
    @eVVigilance 7 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Ian, I hope Mr. Red Tablecloth is acquiring new pieces at a rate faster than you can film them. Here's to hoping that source never runs dry, he seems to have excellent taste in fireams.

    • @joevidya
      @joevidya 7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      GrasCollector The tablecloth is magic, when he unfolds it on the table a new gun appears.

    • @algirdassalomskas9050
      @algirdassalomskas9050 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      GrasCollector and when the table cloth is lifted up to be washed in gun polish, as is done with magical firearm tapestries, you can find a gun on the table from under the cloth.

  • @jasondoe2596
    @jasondoe2596 7 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    There's this intangible quality that engineers and designers strive for, whether developing engines, or firearms, or even computer code - it's called _elegance_ . It's pretty fascinating that even the most rigorous creative disciplines use aesthetics as an important measure of success.
    Well, this pistol is what happens when there's none of it :P

  • @pirate5019
    @pirate5019 7 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    If I was living in the German Empire, I would definetly make sure my tax payments are on time.

    • @blackcatgaming8518
      @blackcatgaming8518 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      PIRATE why? With a gun like that you could run away before the guy could even get it cocked

  • @FredDude27
    @FredDude27 7 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    For tax-collectors? Wasnt that the same reason they developed the Doberman Pinscher breed too? :D

  • @b.griffin317
    @b.griffin317 7 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Just two pins to take it apart: "look ma! an AR from 1911!"

  • @joedonnelly387
    @joedonnelly387 7 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    Looks like an FN model 1900 meets a Kolibri. Thanks again Ian!

    • @texasdeeslinglead2401
      @texasdeeslinglead2401 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Joe Donnelly I was thinking glock , browning , and luger got drunk as a skunk and decide to see how messed up they could make one gun.

    • @ironwolfF1
      @ironwolfF1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      The first prototype Ian looked at appears to be heading in the right direction for a fix, but I suspect the detractors (justified in their opinions of this weapon) were just too numerous to overcome.

    • @sesfilmsllc
      @sesfilmsllc 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Joe Donnelly so basically a regular sized kolibiri.

  • @ramenoodle7853
    @ramenoodle7853 7 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    did you lose your universal disassembly tool?

  • @kaymio6547
    @kaymio6547 7 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Rheinische Metallwaren- und Maschinenfabrik AG, nowadays called Rheinmetall. der Rhein = the river Rhine, Metallwaren = metal goods, Maschinenfabrik = machine factory. AG = Aktiengesellschaft = "share corporation"

    • @hummelspatz
      @hummelspatz 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      And if I'm correct, they manufactured the Leopard 1 & 2 battle tanks...somewhere near Paderborn?

    • @annadelsiena
      @annadelsiena 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      They also make the cannons for the Abrams

    • @FreeOfFantasy
      @FreeOfFantasy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Rheinmetall builds the canon, the thank is made by Kraus-Maffei Wegemann

    • @failer_
      @failer_ 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rheinmetall has a subsidiary in Kassel which is ~70km from Paderborn.

    • @reneengelke3218
      @reneengelke3218 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      hummelspatz They manufactured the Leopard 1&2 and today They manufacture the Puma in Unterlüß (my Home Town)

  • @burnininhell
    @burnininhell 7 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Ok, seriously TH-cam, why?!?!
    Why do you think that after watching a Forgotten Weapons video, I'd want to watch a 'learn your colors with a carton panda' video for toddlers?
    I'm 24 years old! I think I've got that figured out by now!

    • @todaywefly4370
      @todaywefly4370 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      burnininhell you are never too old to learn😊. Even at 27.

  • @Ratzfourtyfour
    @Ratzfourtyfour 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    When I read Metallwaaren with a double A I thought for a second it might be a counterfeit gun. Turns out it's just an outdated spelling of Metallwaren.
    I wish they still would manufacture guns in Sömmerda, it would make that place a bit less boring.

  • @dougscott8161
    @dougscott8161 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wow, Ian, I think I like my old 1907 Dreyse better than these 9MM versions, and I thought my 1907 was weird with the break open feature, which I see has been omitted on the 1910 version. Also the field stripping seems to be much more difficult on the newer, larger guns. Thanks for another enlightening video, God Bless and stay safe.

  • @surplussean3364
    @surplussean3364 7 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    Some of these should be titled Ridiculous Weapons

    • @ramjb
      @ramjb 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The prototype seemed much more practical, nothing ridiculous on it.
      The main serial ones however...yeah. Not sure how anyone thought something like that would be viable for a police/military firearm.

    • @surplussean3364
      @surplussean3364 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      DyingIsMyLatestFashion...It's a joke man, not that serious

    • @jameshealy4594
      @jameshealy4594 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      "There is no such thing as ridiculous when it comes to gun development"
      Points at ring gun.

    • @mkultraification
      @mkultraification 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +James Healy yes, but those were built as novelties. They were never seriously intended to serve a practical purpose.

  • @ddesoer
    @ddesoer 7 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    This video exemplifies the problem with this channel for me. I have relatively little interest in handguns and nearly no interest in handguns of that era. Yet I know that watching the video is going to be interesting and I'm going to learn something that is of genuine interest to me. So I have to watch them all and, at the rate they come out, that is actually a commitment. :-D

  • @vicostea
    @vicostea 7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Just imagine using and cleaning this pistol in WW1 trenches. :D

    • @laviliterthefirst
      @laviliterthefirst 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      The recoil spring goes flying out into No-mans-land...."well Johnny, Gertrude is your girl now...take care of her" lol

  • @laviliterthefirst
    @laviliterthefirst 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Hmm, I wonder how that more traditional slide prototype worked...seems like that one might have actually been alright but with Luger and Browning right around the corner it was kinda doomed from the start.

  • @aldi404
    @aldi404 7 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I always love Ians german pronunciations :)
    Greetings from Germany

    • @GreenDayFanMT
      @GreenDayFanMT 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Er tut sich aber wirklich Mühe geben. Ich finde er wird sogar besser.

    • @calcyss7159
      @calcyss7159 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Umgangssprachlich/Im dialekt ist +GreenDayFanMT's version schon richtig.

    • @GreenDayFanMT
      @GreenDayFanMT 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Das Rheinische ist immer noch ne Hochsprache :D. Mir ging es gut wenn ich zum Arzt gehen könnt, aber das geht momentan nicht :D

    • @calcyss7159
      @calcyss7159 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      GreenDayFanMT Das Rheinische ist ein dialekt des hochdeutschen und dadurch genau so umgansprachlich wie schwäbisch ;) "tun"/"tut" ist noch nichtmal ein richtiges wort afaik :P

    • @GreenDayFanMT
      @GreenDayFanMT 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ich mag Leute die etwas "richtig stellen" obwohl es ironisch gemeint war, aber das tut hier nichts zu Sache. Chill 'lex, take it easy man.

  • @skiingcrocodile2153
    @skiingcrocodile2153 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    "Sommerda" in some Italian dialects means "I am shit" so I'm really not that surprised that these were bad, even the guns themselves knew it

    • @CRO_Bash95
      @CRO_Bash95 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I scrolled way to far to find this! When i first read that Sommerda i thought the very same thing, even guns knew that they were shit

  • @HadToChangeMyName_YoutubeSucks
    @HadToChangeMyName_YoutubeSucks 7 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Dang, learned another lesson. My first was that firearms shouldn't spontaneously disassemble upon firing (Yugoslav M56), the second is that firearms shouldn't require disassembly between shots. Man, I'm learning like crazy!
    Also, never say this one is nice and easy to take apart, because then it won't be.

    • @draconus15
      @draconus15 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Learned that trying to take apart and put together a rugerr mk2 in front of someone. I've done if close to 100 times and it's still a pain sometimes

  • @a_loyal_kiwi88
    @a_loyal_kiwi88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I can't help but feel a strange sense of sadness for Dreyse, after the needle rifle it seems like every other design they came up with just didn't cut it when compared to contemporary designs, atleast when it came to military weapons.

  • @Sinnistering
    @Sinnistering 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The experimental version is actually pretty good. Almost certainly inferior to delayed or locked breech designs, but it's a functional design--compared with the disastrously designed production type.

  • @balazstorok9265
    @balazstorok9265 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "maybe not the best solution"??? omg, this gun is the most f..ed up crap I've ever seen!

  • @ST-zm3lm
    @ST-zm3lm 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Despite the goofy design, these look very well-made. I have a 1907 that is rough on the outside, but still trucks on.

  • @spef7396
    @spef7396 7 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    this is pretty mellow Ian, good job

  • @senfdazu2230
    @senfdazu2230 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Police is "Polizei" in german. Landesgendarmerie is something between state trooper and national guard.

  • @BMW_MAN
    @BMW_MAN 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    it reminds me Chinese Mystery Pistol

    • @CaptainGrief66
      @CaptainGrief66 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      M30B35
      The Chinese copied the previous versions of the Dreyse pistols.

  • @Spiz103
    @Spiz103 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Has a blowback firearm with a disengagement system like this to bypass enormously powerful cartridges ever worked properly? I remember wondering if you could build a rifle like that.

  • @fireflyaut4313
    @fireflyaut4313 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    There is a marking ABT. Sömmerda above that Ejector-Retaining-Lever. Itc ould be a marking for a Police Unit: "Abt." is short for Abteilung(Department) and "Sömmerda" is a Village (now Town) in Germany. Also the police in the countryside is called Gandamerie (still the case in Austria) and in Cities its Polizei. So "Land Gandermarie" is country side Gandamerie or in other words country side Police.

    • @hawkmoon3312
      @hawkmoon3312 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope. There was a "Munitions- and Waffenfabrik AG" in Sömmerda, which Rheinmetall bought in 1901. So the gun was most likely produced there.

    • @MrDgwphotos
      @MrDgwphotos 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      So the rough equivalent of a "national" Sheriff's department.

    • @hawkmoon3312
      @hawkmoon3312 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Actually even closer equivalent. The Landgendarmerie was also divided by locality/county, same as Sheriff´s departments.

  • @ausmax1972
    @ausmax1972 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    That final prototype looks so Rube Goldberg...

  • @andywander
    @andywander 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey, that second pistol(the one in nice condition) says M-1912 9x19mm on the butt near the magazine well.

  • @TheEpictrooper
    @TheEpictrooper 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nifty little disassembly tool. Are those something you can buy/make? Picked up a 1907 Dreyse recently and well......I've learned just how strong the recoil springs are the hard way.....

  • @cache2295
    @cache2295 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Now, all I need is money

    • @crashandburnbirner
      @crashandburnbirner 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Shifty Bagel Well go out and get it then

    • @cache2295
      @cache2295 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Money to for things I don't need*

  • @jonasglanshed
    @jonasglanshed 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I just saw a bunch of these in Fritz Langs epic M from 1931

  • @Jennifur68
    @Jennifur68 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I actually had a Dreyse Model 1907 that I bought at a flea market somewhere near Gettysburg in the 1990's for $10. I thought it was mostly a relic, missing parts but I had a gunsmith friend look it over and he replaced the missing magazine and grips, said it was in working condition. It was not in perfect condition and had some pitting so I never fired it because I wasn't 100% convinced it was safe. I do recall it had a very stiff spring and the serrated slots near the muzzle would dig into your fingers painfully while cocking it.

  • @Marcel_Germann
    @Marcel_Germann 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The company which purchased the "Dreyse" company (Munitions- und Waffenfabrik AG in Sömmerda/Thuringia) was the Rheinische Metallwaarenfabrik. And nope, that's not a typo, it was written with two a back then, this was before the reformation of orthography in 1901. Short name is and was "Rheinmetall", and the company is still in existence. Most famous for the MG42.

  • @ainsleywainsley
    @ainsleywainsley 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    its crazy how many variation's of guns are out there and i've never shot one!

  • @Andrewbert109
    @Andrewbert109 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "It's kind of a goofy solution, I'm not sure why they did it" sounds like that could really describe the entire gun

  • @bikkiikun
    @bikkiikun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could you make a video, answering the question on why the world largely settled on 9mm parabellum (as defacto standard for pistols and SMGs)?

  • @uncleants
    @uncleants 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Rheinische Metallwaren & Maschinenfabrik is a mouthful if you aren't familiar with German pronunciation. Fortunately you could refer to it as Rheinmetall as most people do, which may prevent your tongue falling off ;)

  • @sthenzel
    @sthenzel 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think the last one works differently.
    The leaf spring pushes the rear piece down, so this has to ride up the little bump on the frame, thus providing a little bit of delay.
    Anything else would make no sense, no gun designer of clear mind would have designed a contraption you have to disassemble partially to chamber a round.
    In the early days of selfloaders maybe, but not 1910.

  • @besternamedensgibtxd
    @besternamedensgibtxd 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Your german is improving :D

  • @worldtraveler930
    @worldtraveler930 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    And Now we know why it is a Forgotten Weapon.

  • @oldschoolmedia6484
    @oldschoolmedia6484 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The cool thing about Dreyse pistol is the ribs in the slide to allow it to use the 9mm parabellum

  • @Ctulhu911
    @Ctulhu911 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This gun is neat!

  • @Skeptical_Numbat
    @Skeptical_Numbat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another interesting dead end in the evolution of the modern firearm...
    It's intriguing to me seeing how little guns have changed in their fundamental design aspects over an entire century of development.
    I'd have expected high precision/power caseless ammunition, electronic triggers & superlight carbon-ceramic materials, etc. being standard in automatic pistols by now...
    Ian, what advances in gun technology (large & small) are you most looking forward to be perfected, or developed from scratch in the next few years..?

  • @Gojiro7
    @Gojiro7 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    you know the guns crappy when even official manufactures do the Chinese mystery pistol thing of having parts of the gun that do nothing XD

  • @emiliomurillo20
    @emiliomurillo20 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    viva hi point and they even make a 45

  • @OfflineTillee
    @OfflineTillee 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The "Rheinische Metallwaaren- und Maschinenfabrik Aktiengesellschaft" today is called just "Rheinmetall", a name that should ring some bells.

  • @therugburnz
    @therugburnz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm becoming more interested in closed flap holsters lately. Then I find this video with a modified holster not done by a 'kitchen gunsmith'. Instead it was done in a factory setting. Cool !
    Big thanx,

  • @spacewater7
    @spacewater7 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Or the hammer spring. Such as in the mysterious unicorn of the Astra 1921, or etc. und so weiter. Good luck and go for it.

  • @indiequas
    @indiequas 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Those are some nice hammers you got there🤔

  • @Fuddleton
    @Fuddleton 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would've been nicer if it was a two spring setup, one for charging, and then use both for cycling.

  • @chumanzky9862
    @chumanzky9862 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    do a review on the imbel rifles please

  • @koffeekage
    @koffeekage ปีที่แล้ว

    The latest version functionally could have changed the game for gun manufacturing, i wonder if it ran reliably.

  • @drpsionic
    @drpsionic 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Whenever I see a monstrosity like this I have visions of Ian taking a gun apart and not being able to put it back together again.

  • @lysanderxiii2335
    @lysanderxiii2335 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Johann N. Von Dreyse - it's pronounced "DRI'-sə".

  • @prof.m.ottozeeejcdecs9998
    @prof.m.ottozeeejcdecs9998 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    RheinMetall (short) used today!

  • @411.48R
    @411.48R 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really like the "steam punk" look of the Dreyse pistols.
    Wouldn't it have made more sense to produce a M1907 in .380ACP?

    • @quentinhoward99
      @quentinhoward99 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well the people they were selling it to wanted it in 9mm, plus 380 isn't that much better for blowback.

  • @samhardy5351
    @samhardy5351 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    looks way better than the pocket version

  • @CzornyLisek
    @CzornyLisek 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    YT again don't have any idea what to put in recommended next to vid.
    Bus Colors for Kids - Learning Educational Video & Learn Cars Vechicles - Ambulance for Children
    Kids Learn Land TV
    Fun Baby Learn Colors, Shapes, Numbers Educational Games by Sago Mini for Children
    Play & Learn Kids Games
    Scary Fire Truck | Car Wash | Educational Video For Toddler
    Kids ABC TV
    Baby Panda | Kids Play And Learns Pairs Kids Games - Fun Baby Panda Educational Games For Children
    IDK what tags are on this vid. But you could take away "educational" tag if there is.... And categories, there is no way to put it into history or engineering subcategory?

    • @pedroberoes49
      @pedroberoes49 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Czorńy Lisek i cant like this comment enough

    • @GunFunZS
      @GunFunZS 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think this is intentional. TH-cam defunds anything that is not "family safe".So they defund everything and undermine youtube's biased algorithm sorting.

    • @conservativetradesman9833
      @conservativetradesman9833 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Czorńy Lisek --I think the defunding by TH-cam is merely an attempt to cut costs. The content is there, they just don't have to pay creators.

    • @CzornyLisek
      @CzornyLisek 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Algorithm never work when vid is just posted. As it seem to be based on users. So many users after watching this watch another "forgotten weapon" it will be in recommended eventually.
      What I say is to put it into subcategories history or engineering(if it's possible) so anything at least as interesting will show up instead of child educational vids(child vids are simply "safest" for YT algorithms to show when they still don't have data and only category chosen by uploader is "educational").
      It have nothing with monetisation/costs.

    • @Bezulba2
      @Bezulba2 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      an attempt to cut costs because ads don't bring in any revenue. It's not the golden days of ads where 100 views would get you a 100 dollars.

  • @costantinoandruzzi2219
    @costantinoandruzzi2219 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Definitely an improvement over the M1907 and, design-wise, a weird cross between a Steyr M12 and a Tokarev TT-33!

  • @DerPolygonianer
    @DerPolygonianer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rheinische Metallwaaren und Maschinenfabrik actually still exists today. They're one of the largest suppliers for military hardware and the automotive industry. They're much better known as Rheinmetall today. I'm sure Ian knew that but since he didn't say it in the Video and it might interest somebody: Here you go ;)

  • @michelvan97
    @michelvan97 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The F mark on second gun stand for "Finanzamt" the Tax collector
    The LG mark is Königlich Preußische Land Gendarmerie, a Police force under direct control by Prussia Military, not the Ministry of Justice !

  • @haramanggapuja
    @haramanggapuja 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One helluva bunch of disassembly procedures ;-) Engineer didn't work in the factory or use the piece in the field, I'd guess. Typisch.

  • @Punisher9419
    @Punisher9419 7 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    This looks like one of the worst guns on this channels so far.

    • @witeshade
      @witeshade 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That late model version with the slide lugs in the front actually looked like it could have been a fairly serviceable pistol. The disconnection mechanism probably would have caused reliability issues, but functionally it seems pretty good. All the other versions look ludicrously impractical... impossible to use with gloves for example.

    • @meeeplo
      @meeeplo 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Bo Zo Crossfire mk.1?

    • @Punisher9419
      @Punisher9419 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh god I forgot about that price of junk. I've seen all the video's but you forget about some of the pure junk guns on this channels. The chines guns in terms of design where just fine as far as I remember they where just made with files so they where un-usable at best. Junk guns are my favourite things to read about though because they are just the most interesting.

  • @1SaG
    @1SaG 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:44 Funny... they spelled "Metallwaren" with a double A ("Metallwaaren"). Looks like they refused to accept the spelling reform of 1880 that had eliminated the use of doubling to denote a "long" vowel. :)
    But that kinda fits with such a weird gun. Hard to imagine anyone would accept this into service when there were perfectly good revolvers around ... or P08 Lugers.

  • @draketigerclaw
    @draketigerclaw 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In a way it kind of reminds me of the funny small Beretta pistols with the pop open barrels in solving still recoil spring issues.

  • @TrikeRoadPoet
    @TrikeRoadPoet 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sad the problems limited the potential of this gun.

  • @Lechiffre100
    @Lechiffre100 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    rheinische metallwaaren & maschinenfabrik roughly translates to rheinian (river in west germany) metalware- & machinefactory

  • @therugburnz
    @therugburnz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool weapon. Despite the odd charging action it does allow what seems to be an easily field strippable and cleanable pistol. I guess others found it not that helpful.
    Thanx Ian

  • @satanmitdengeilenbarthaaren
    @satanmitdengeilenbarthaaren 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    :-) It´s always funny when you spell german words. I watched 0:52 3 or 4 times, and smiled big time at 7:31

  • @lenburton868
    @lenburton868 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ian Are your videos monetized now
    As im seeing ads on some of your videos.

  • @JimFortune
    @JimFortune 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The spring bypass seems like a good idea poorly implemented.

  • @HunterShows
    @HunterShows 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This looks like a Chinese mystery pistol without the "BREVETBREVETBREVET" markings everywhere.

  • @donjones4719
    @donjones4719 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    13:20 This video is incredibly frustrating, Ian. You disassemble the 2 poorly designed pistols and clearly show how they function but you pass over the best one, the one that seems to solve the problem of the 9m blowback. The serrated pieces on the slide unlock the slide from the mainspring, that's clear - but the slide is clearly actuated by a spring to return it when you hand-cycle it. Where is that spring? How are the two springs related?
    Many years to late to get a answer but it's damn frustrating to someone who's been fascinated by the idea of making a 9mm pistol nearly as simple as a .32 pure blowback. This has the desirable spring-over-barrel and low bore axis.

  • @pedrotome9119
    @pedrotome9119 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Again, a great video!! The armed forces of Portugal had a machine gun with this name: Dreyse. I can not remember the model etc, now. (The name of the city Sommerda, in portuguese leads to a funny "translation" I will not state here) 😅😅

  • @marzilv2849
    @marzilv2849 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I saw this gun and i thought: "hey it looks like is a decent gun", but when i saw the loading mechanism i realize how bad this gun is.

    • @onpsxmember
      @onpsxmember 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It looks pretty ugly even from afar.
      I've read that the swiss guards of the pope had some in service till 1990. O.o

  • @jusportel
    @jusportel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    OMG why do call it “Drysee”? It’s pronounced “Dry-za”

  • @leemcnutt6165
    @leemcnutt6165 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do appreciate how you admit when you are a little short on information or pronunciation and admit it and move on with the video

  • @tokul76
    @tokul76 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rheinische Metallwaaren- und Maschinenfabrik AG. Commonly known as Rheinmetall after merger in 1936. They are still producing weapons. Slightly bigger :) calibers today.

  • @robertkubrick3738
    @robertkubrick3738 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting workaround and considering the time. I wonder what the weight savings was compared to a Hi-Point which is a modern blowback 9X19?

    • @nichevo1
      @nichevo1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @P-Talks no, wasnt the P08 Luger in 9mm reputed to be a young cannon, a blaster? Wasn't everybody doping up their pistols with red-hot SMG ammo?

  • @boomsticks_and_battlefield
    @boomsticks_and_battlefield 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love seeing how far firearms technology has evolved, especially during the last 100 or so years. Great video Ian!!

    • @PaulVerhoeven2
      @PaulVerhoeven2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not in the last 40 though. Every pistol these days is Glock P80... from 1980. Or another boutique copy of M1911.

  • @AsRedAsBlood7
    @AsRedAsBlood7 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting, either the stamping "Rheinische Metallwaaren. ..." is a misprint or "Waaren" was written like this back then. Today the word still exists (it simply means goods) but is written "Waren". Might be a pretty special gun if this one is misprinted..

  • @Wanton110
    @Wanton110 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Goofy as balls, but damn it do I love how Dreyse's look

  • @miguelfilipevilarmouraribe5756
    @miguelfilipevilarmouraribe5756 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The place where it was manufatured, Sömmerda, in portuguese "só merda" translates in english to "only shit".

  • @jastreb1081
    @jastreb1081 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Isn't the "Metallwaaren"-stamp misspelled, or just an older way to spell it, like "Citrone"?

  • @curtwuollet2912
    @curtwuollet2912 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    All these dubious attempts to use blowback with too powerful cartridges look extra crazy when you consider that there are locked breach pistols that are actually simpler. Must be a patent thing.

  • @funkrod
    @funkrod 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Id love if you could do a video on an eighty eight flak gun

  • @VegasCyclingFreak
    @VegasCyclingFreak 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    These are some odd ducks, but they are interesting nonetheless

  • @eduviera4985
    @eduviera4985 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ian, what gun has the weridest mechanics but you think is a great gun?

  • @mopac88
    @mopac88 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Designed after a trip to the old Opium Den 😳

  • @FieldMarshalFeels
    @FieldMarshalFeels 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's a nice looking gun, but using it sounds like a pain in the ass.

  • @JIMTHACKER
    @JIMTHACKER 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    13:35 Our Eminem makes some crappy guns.

  • @jtmunn4496
    @jtmunn4496 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you related to Cody from Cody's Lab here on Facebook? You look a little bit alike but your mannerisms remind me of him.

  • @janwitts2688
    @janwitts2688 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is not a firearm.. this is a 3D puzzle for retired police officers to take apart and put back together a few times a day

  • @otte940
    @otte940 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it remindes me of a FN model 1900 on crack