2021 Mazda3 2.5 Turbo vs VW Golf R - Drag Race

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  • 2021 Mazda3 Turbo vs Golf R - Drag Race.
    Golf R specs:
    Engine
    Torque 280 lb-ft @ 1800 rpm
    Base engine size 2.0 l 2.0 l
    Horsepower 292 hp @ 5400 rp
    Turning circle 35.8 ft. 35.8 ft.
    Valves 16
    direct injection yes
    Valve timing Variable Variable
    Cam type Double overhead cam (dohc)
    Cylinders Inline 4
    2021 Mazda3 Turbo 2.5 specs:
    Engine 2.5-liter turbocharged I-4
    Horsepower: 250 horsepower (on 93 octane fuel)
    227 horsepower (on 87 octane fuel)
    Torque: 320 lb-ft (on 93 octane fuel)
    310 lb-ft (on 87 octane fuel)
    Transmission: 6-speed automatic
    Fuel economy
    (EPA/Observed): 23 City / 31 Highway / 26 Combined MPG
    Drivetrain layout: Front-engine, all-wheel drive
    Thanks to Jake and Radi for helping out.

ความคิดเห็น • 962

  • @SamCarLegion
    @SamCarLegion  3 ปีที่แล้ว +132

    We didn’t expect the result to be any different. Just a fun day :)

    • @Cochorgs8524
      @Cochorgs8524 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rediculus

    • @reenachauriya4931
      @reenachauriya4931 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Do a golf r vs civic type r

    • @luthandolumarcho8400
      @luthandolumarcho8400 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I Legit Watched This Already Knowing What Was To Happen.😂😂🤣🤣 I Think They Should’ve Went With A “TSI” Model Maybe.. Lmao.

    • @davesearle2766
      @davesearle2766 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@reenachauriya4931 Civic may come out on top in that test but so many of us over 30 would not fit with the Civic's overdone design, a car a teenager would like to identify with.

    • @reenachauriya4931
      @reenachauriya4931 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@davesearle2766 im pretty sure most older people dont really care so much about the looks of a car or identifies with a car. lexus does well with older people and these are the people coming off from the look of the german brands.

  • @galovillaran6356
    @galovillaran6356 3 ปีที่แล้ว +409

    The same test, but definitely with the Golf GTI ... The Mazda 3 has nothing to do with the R. But I do believe that the fight is with the GTI. Greetings from Peru.

    • @SamCarLegion
      @SamCarLegion  3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Will make that happen.

    • @QuickmixProductions
      @QuickmixProductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly!

    • @Quec860901g41
      @Quec860901g41 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was thinking the same thing

    • @sergiocastro588
      @sergiocastro588 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Always excuses

    • @Rozzjd
      @Rozzjd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      GTI will beat the shit out of the Mazca, I mean, Mazda 😁

  • @Crosshead1
    @Crosshead1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +313

    I think comparing the 3 Turbo to a Golf R is unrealistic. A more comparable car would be the Golf GTI.

    • @XxGrahameCrackerxX
      @XxGrahameCrackerxX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Id even say an Audi A3 Quattro.

    • @arturoescorcia
      @arturoescorcia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Totally agree, a GTI would be more fair plus they are in the same price range

    • @XxGrahameCrackerxX
      @XxGrahameCrackerxX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@arturoescorcia I still think the A3 is spot on for comparison, less power than the R but still has AWD (haldex)

    • @anemite2
      @anemite2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@XxGrahameCrackerxX no It doesnt, the AWD doesnt make It automatically as good as an Audi, the Mazda still has a rígid rear suspensión, a much inferior transsmision and the chasis Is just average

    • @jakeharbinson120
      @jakeharbinson120 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think the GTI is unfair has the Mazda sits between the R and the GTI. The A3 has the same engine as the GTI so also inferior. Hard to compare it to anything really, but give them time they will be giving the R a run

  • @filipnikolic8805
    @filipnikolic8805 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Mazda looks like a car from 22nd century and Golf looks like a car from 20th century.
    Brutal design from Mazda...

    • @joebloggs7177
      @joebloggs7177 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If I had to say honestly Mazda has the looks, but a bit to work on under the hood, whereas the VW looks ordinary bland, but goes like the clappers

    • @vincentv1790
      @vincentv1790 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Skwisgaarz666 you prolly so bias. Imo for its class Mazda nail the design, it grew on to me very quickly with those kodo and sexy lines

    • @vincentv1790
      @vincentv1790 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Skwisgaarz666 the only Subaru sedan that I think the best looking would be the Eagle eye hawk sti made in 2006-2007.

    • @vincentv1790
      @vincentv1790 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Skwisgaarz666 truthfully the only company that still does conventional torque converter transmission out of the bunch is Mazda. They know it works and they stick to it. Meanwhile all the other brands trying to invent a new design with CVT and AMT that obviously once it failed it would be too costly to repair one without a warranty, so for that reason alone, the only trusted Japanese brands with decent craftsmanship and design would be Mazda and Lexus. Mazda has been a clear winner in brand engagement in Canada and now picking up sales in the USA.

  • @ushermarka1
    @ushermarka1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Still would take Mazda over Volkswagen any day of the week. Mazda looks better, better quality interior, definitely better reliability. Anyone that has ever owned a VW and had to pay for maintenance would agree.

    • @honda116969
      @honda116969 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I don't know why people are so big on VW you're exactly right the price to fix that shit is insane. & on top of that they're not that reliable. IMO. I have the Accord 2.0t... I was thinking about getting the Kia K5 GT but I decided to go with Honda because I know they're reliable, little slower than the K5 factory but I tuned my Accord now I'm just looking for a K5 on the streets & see what happens haha. And I don't want to sound like a total hater I do like the way Volkswagens look and they drive really good but so do Hondas 👍👍🚗💨🔥💯%🇺🇸

    • @RailTime1786
      @RailTime1786 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Skwisgaarz666 that’s true surprisingly I don’t see a lot of MS3 or MS6 RX8 on the road anymore so I wondered what happed to the reliability? I certainly wouldn’t want that over a VW since I see VW on the road more often in South Miami than Mazda unless it’s soccer mom CUV or SUV.

    • @jakubkl7675
      @jakubkl7675 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Skwisgaarz666 your bias is showing. I was a vw and audi guy for the longest time but enough is enough. Take a stroll down memory lane and look at the tdi high pressure fuel pumps. The oil sludge. The W8 engines in passats. The 2.7t in allroads. Oil leaks. Transmission troubles. Early dsg issues. Complicated and expensive front end repairs. Squeaks and rattles. Lol. My head is out of my ass and I'm over the "soul" of the average German car. The only one I'd consider is a 911 since it is actually reliable, save for the ims issues.

    • @jackpowell8155
      @jackpowell8155 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I got a tune on my Mazda 3 turbo hatchback and it now makes 300 whp

  • @ryanh3285
    @ryanh3285 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    That new Mazda is beautiful and i love the interior.

    • @paul8161
      @paul8161 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Completely agree. It looks amazing.

    • @applepoop10
      @applepoop10 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Meh, its okay.

  • @en_noah4615
    @en_noah4615 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Man really thought traction control would help him gain the 8 bus lengths that golf put on him😂

  • @mikeleahy6184
    @mikeleahy6184 3 ปีที่แล้ว +183

    Next we will do a Citroen vs. Mustang!!!

    • @afrank3029
      @afrank3029 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Pfffff , crap overhyped VW fanboy comment....

    • @joelfernando2031
      @joelfernando2031 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@afrank3029 enough to woppd your rice burner!

    • @deonhrupnarain
      @deonhrupnarain 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahaahahah....

  • @Gyllbonus
    @Gyllbonus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    I love the R...but that Mazda looks cool. I wonder how the Mazda would do against a standard GTi.

    • @SamCarLegion
      @SamCarLegion  3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Will do one as well

    • @smoiz88
      @smoiz88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Same here, want to know how it will do against gti

    • @johnmoser2689
      @johnmoser2689 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Doesn't make much sense the golf R is Awd and so was the Mazda however the Mazda claims a much higher horsepower and is half a liter bigger in displacement it would be sad to see it race an even lower horsepower version with 2wd

    • @PapiAndrey
      @PapiAndrey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Gti will definitely win from a roll, and maybe from a dig if it’s on some decent performance tires.

    • @Jaredscott89
      @Jaredscott89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@johnmoser2689 Mazda doesn't claim more hp than the R...

  • @tonyvelasquez863
    @tonyvelasquez863 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Isn't the R like $10k more!? I'll definitely expect a car that is 10k to be faster lol

  • @charleybarley914
    @charleybarley914 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    That interior on the Mazda tho. U can win the drag race and I'll drive home inside that.

    • @allenzoom9444
      @allenzoom9444 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Alright snail

    • @MrBrad0910
      @MrBrad0910 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Skwisgaarz666 The interior is premium and leagues ahead of Volkswagen interior. Next year's VW interior looks promising though. Wouldn't buy a VW though with how expensive they are to fix when they inevitably have problems. Low resale value too.

    • @IReahpZz
      @IReahpZz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Skwisgaarz666 did you just say Subaru over Mazda ? Jesus man. That's a good joke

    • @IReahpZz
      @IReahpZz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Skwisgaarz666 lmao Miata is a blast to drive.vw good r trump's the sti in every meaningful way. Hell kia is building better cars than Subaru now

    • @takuyakimura9
      @takuyakimura9 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@IReahpZz lmao kia builds better car than Subaru, now that's a good joke.

  • @BiscuitsnTea
    @BiscuitsnTea 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    less than 1 min in and the races have already begun ,thats how its done 🔥🔥💪🏾

    • @KonG-rk4od
      @KonG-rk4od 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gotta appreciate the efficiency

  • @geekstar2937
    @geekstar2937 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The car with 320 hp beats a car with 220 hp?
    Wow, imagine my shock. I'm glad you invested the time to finding this out, we would never know otherwise.

    • @basslover352
      @basslover352 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      250 vs 292 actually but most of us know 292 is underrated

    • @joshuapounds7646
      @joshuapounds7646 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is not 320 hp 🤦🏾‍♂️ is a 2021 golf r not 2022 golf r

  • @OFDCLK
    @OFDCLK 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    “Oh yeah the golf is quicker” wtf were you expecting?

    • @zhetaolu963
      @zhetaolu963 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      exactly, this is a pointless comparison

  • @rootsmanuva82
    @rootsmanuva82 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I’m willing to bet a base GTI w/a DSG is quicker than Mazda 3 Turbo. 3 would probably get a small jump off the line (awd) but a GTI would reel it in after that.

    • @exotoros
      @exotoros 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      GTI has a better low end because of the smaller turbo. R strength is the higher end

  • @SLMZ8
    @SLMZ8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    The gti can do the job

    • @m1i2c3h4a5e6l71
      @m1i2c3h4a5e6l71 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s what I said lol

    • @francisleduc2707
      @francisleduc2707 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Easyy

    • @michaelchamizo8185
      @michaelchamizo8185 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rolling for sure

    • @conchobar
      @conchobar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You should look at the torque numbers of the Mazda before making that claim.

    • @ProWagenMedia
      @ProWagenMedia 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep it would dust that Mazda 3. My stock MK7 manual dusted a modded speed3.

  • @jrrb1974
    @jrrb1974 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    The mazda 3 has nothing to do with the golf r, what were you thinking?

    • @neilmcguinness4422
      @neilmcguinness4422 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      True.. This result was very predictable and makes the Mazda look slow.. Which it most certainly ISN'T...👍

    • @neilmcguinness4422
      @neilmcguinness4422 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@martindonohue900 I own a 2014 Golf R Dsg myself Martin so sorry if I came across as a little patronizing.. lol!.. 🤣🤣

    • @markvanderwardt3345
      @markvanderwardt3345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Both have 4wd, so you'd expect the Mazda to get off the line a bit faster.

    • @M4B21S88
      @M4B21S88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Right. Believe it or not, prior to the Mazda3 being released, there were ppl saying itd match the R...
      I was like... these ppl are crazy!!!

    • @neilmcguinness4422
      @neilmcguinness4422 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@M4B21S88 Yeah. Crazy as f#ck mate. The Mazda genuinely needs another 100 bhp to put it in with even a chance of regularly beating the DSG Golf R over the quarter mile..

  • @M9_Prime
    @M9_Prime 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What did you expect? Here in Canada the price difference is $10k between those 2. The R is in a different class here, this is more like Golf GTi or Civic Si, the Golf R is more in line with a Civic type R

    • @meleana4
      @meleana4 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well said.

  • @anirutvideo
    @anirutvideo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    IMO, the Mazda 3 Turbo seems to target the fun-to-drive segment rather than the racing segment.

  • @dcasandman
    @dcasandman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Having tested both R is definitely faster. Much more refined boy racer feel. The Mazda still is a nice quick car for. If fastest is most important R for sure. If daily driving Mazda just kills current gen R in every way. Ride, sound deadening, interior materials are on point in the Mazda. Easily on task with base model luxury cars. Very much like an S3, A3, CLA, 2 Series. 80-90 on highway completely silent. Plus 10k less. We went with Mazda over VW for our daughter. Plus 5* crash rating all around and highest reliability.

  • @ohcanadaeh
    @ohcanadaeh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Interesting comparison. The difference in performance between the two cars reflects the difference in the type of prospective buyers for the vehicles. The Golf R is for driving enthusiasts and the Mazda3 turbo is for owner looking for a premium interior , comfort, styling and driving experience.

    • @SamCarLegion
      @SamCarLegion  3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      We knew the mazda would loose but it was a fun day. But in some ways this also proved that MAZDA needs a mazda speed or some GT version of the 3

    • @chawpino8320
      @chawpino8320 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@SamCarLegion Why? So you can drag race it against something else out of its class? Lets go after a Veyron next time, those are four wheel drive.
      A new speed 3 would cost the small company a fortune in development costs and few would buy. There will be no speed 3. If it were a profitable idea they would have never discontinued the old speed 3 in the first place.

    • @SamCarLegion
      @SamCarLegion  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Why is it out of it’s class? Both awd, both hatchbacks, both automatic trans, both turbo engines, Mazda makes 30bhp less! That’s it

    • @chawpino8320
      @chawpino8320 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@SamCarLegion Oh for cryin out loud Sam, The Msrp for the base 3 turbo hatch is $30,900, The Golf R is $40395. Along with the huge price gap they each have an entirely different market and functional focus. I doubt many will cross shop these.

    • @SamCarLegion
      @SamCarLegion  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I don’t think this is a comparison? And I don’t think we did this video for people that will cross shop? We were just having this chat about how much faster the new turbo 3 is, so we decided let’s see how fast it is. I don’t think you get this video at all. People are drag racing tesla model x with Lambos ffs. This ticked you off?

  • @stephenbrown7550
    @stephenbrown7550 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A lot of people making comments saying this is a poor comparison, I disagree. Those in the market for a Mazda 3 turbo that want more power are looking at the golf r

  • @mjimeneznyc
    @mjimeneznyc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well, the Mazda 3 AWD should out traction the GTI , and has more power, so I think this was a good comparison. Mazda is doing something right with this 3. They are targeting the luxury brands, not the Golf R.

  • @RoelLopez92
    @RoelLopez92 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Mazda didn’t do bad for having a normal auto 6 speed

  • @pedrorivera2308
    @pedrorivera2308 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Mazda 3 is what Mazda said it was,,,a Mazda 3!! Not a Mazdaspeed 3!! It did really good against the Golf R...The regular GTI doesn't stand a chance against the Mazda 3...If this was a Mazdaspeed 3 2021 it would be a whole different story 👍

    • @andrewverrett568
      @andrewverrett568 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know for a fact the gti beats the mazda 3. Me and my buddy have done plenty of pulls stand still and rolling and I always beat him in my gti

    • @pedrorivera2308
      @pedrorivera2308 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andrewverrett568 Not the 2021 Turbo,,maybe you beating a stock mazda 3

    • @pedrorivera2308
      @pedrorivera2308 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andrewverrett568 I tear up GTIs on my 2011 Speed 3 ,,you must be on something

  • @marcorussellOG
    @marcorussellOG 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So you don’t even mention the Gold R has 315 horsepower, that is 65 more horsepower. The Mazda didn’t lose because of the transmission it lost because it only has 250hp vs 310.

  • @neilmcguinness4422
    @neilmcguinness4422 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Golf 7 R with the DSG box has always had a reputation for punching above it's weight.. Seen it defeat many Focus RS's in a drag race at least so potential owners or actual owners of the Mazda should not feel downhearted!.. It is still a fine quick car!..👍

  • @markosijeric4738
    @markosijeric4738 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    All these people bragging golf r this that
    No shitt it cost almost 8-10k more it better win plus DSG is the reason
    Mazda still looks better tho
    Plus that interior 👌 🔥🔥

    • @groupnakub
      @groupnakub 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes 10k$more if this in my contry price differant should 2-3time more than in usa

  • @englokhau272
    @englokhau272 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    VW has a godlike DSG gearbox, only a handful gearbox can match with it. Even with same power car will lose definitely.

    • @steelis9106
      @steelis9106 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      DSG is truly godlike (in terms of reliability). It is better to get rid of such a car as soon as the car warranty ends.

    • @rogerbarrett9920
      @rogerbarrett9920 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@steelis9106 - totally true- Keep it too long and it will cost you $7000 to fix it. I'd rather be a second slower.

    • @aeroline11
      @aeroline11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rogerbarrett9920 are you sure you need to spent 7000 to fix the DSG? This is "wet clutch" and even if you feel the clutch slipping the cost of clutch replacement is less than 1000 USD. Gearbox itself is as robust as manual, way more reliable than automatic except the clutch pack.
      Fyi, the clutch pack is designed to last 240 thousand kilometers. There are people who been travel more than 300 thousand kilometers without the need of clutch pack replacement.
      The one that not long lasting dual clutch is using "dry" clutch which often use for model less than 250nm. Don't buy anyone which using dry clutch, the headache never end.

  • @NJ728
    @NJ728 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Golf R is a hot hatch in every sense of the word and the Mazda 3 Turbo is premium hatch which happens to be quick. I don't think it was ever Mazd's intention to threaten the Golf's performance credentials with this model but rather make a comfortable, luxurious and reliable hatch fit to do the daily commute and if you ever feel racey it'll glady oblige to an extent. The Golf is performance biased and the Mazda luxury biased, different strokes for different folks...interesting video nonetheless

  • @Hercegovac.1
    @Hercegovac.1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    VW Golf driver : what kind of coffee you drink?
    Mazda driver: wait I’m coming 🤣🤣
    Funny video 😀

  • @sergiorivera2007
    @sergiorivera2007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Of course the Golf R is going to give the Mazda a beat down, with 315 Hp , but I still love my 2022 Mazda 3 . Gave the VW R a nice challenge.

  • @danesebruno
    @danesebruno 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    that mazda interior is on another level..... wow

    • @SamCarLegion
      @SamCarLegion  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are the only one that noticed that lol respect for that

    • @Snip3zjumper
      @Snip3zjumper 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SamCarLegion how many miles have u put on the mazda since any issues?

    • @SamCarLegion
      @SamCarLegion  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Snip3zjumper i don’t own the car :)

    • @Snip3zjumper
      @Snip3zjumper 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SamCarLegion i just bought it today the gas pedal is a little too responsive for everyday driving but once I break in the engine ill just use cruise control

  • @kinming1122
    @kinming1122 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mazda will not trade durability for high-horsepower output, and Volkswagen has a very high failure rate

  • @omariharrison2553
    @omariharrison2553 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    VW owner here. Love you brother. "Show em up"

  • @leglace
    @leglace 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Give the Mazda a dual clutch and see how that goes. Maybe next year.

    • @SamCarLegion
      @SamCarLegion  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      100%

    • @adam145
      @adam145 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mazda will most likely not do that in any near future. I spoke with a salesman in my region (Europe) and he said that shift to luxury is making them a ton more money.

    • @Dongzzzzzz
      @Dongzzzzzz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They ain't gonna do that to not destroy their reputation in reliability.

    • @brianreardon7700
      @brianreardon7700 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well that’s the problem with Mazda the gearing! That 6 speed auto! Wt$ lol! It’s not the rest of the car! The hp and torque are great! 250 and 320 wow.. and I’m a 2019 golf r owner.. if they could get the transfer Of Power to the ground!

    • @alexandredufour7358
      @alexandredufour7358 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brianreardon7700 exact mazda need dct asap but i dont think it would beat the r tho

  • @stacyholt6529
    @stacyholt6529 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mazda did not tune the 2.5t to be a performance engine. It's a torque monster but it does not like high RPMs. I have to wonder what it would be like with a modern high torque 8 speed auto and a tune which favored horse power a little more than torque. Something like 275-280 hp / 300 ft-lb. Just a thought. 😉 I do want to say I love the 2.5t but it just does not turn in the numbers you'd expect. I think a lot of it is torque management in order to prolong the life of the current 6 speed auto in full throttle launches. Kind of build power like a diesel.

    • @mzr3553
      @mzr3553 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mazda doesnt build competition cars.mazda concentrate on riliability.but ya with 6 speed manaul and 2wd this wudv been way quicker.the 4wd is to heavy and auto slow it down

  • @mytriplef873
    @mytriplef873 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A bigger engine with higher power and torque has lost to smaller Golf GTi and what's more the greater Golf R. About speeding performance, just don't mention Mazda.

  • @MrAve20
    @MrAve20 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Just a small...small...detail tho - Mazda's engine wont need a rebiuld after 150k-200k and wont burn oil with time...Even the latest TSI is nothing compared to Skyactive. And just be be cleared 😳☝🏻 Im a freaking Golf owner 🥳

    • @ProWagenMedia
      @ProWagenMedia 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My GTI was more reliable than my Mazda 3. Both great though

  • @muradsoltanov5837
    @muradsoltanov5837 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    After drag racing, Golf immediately refilled the oil and went to the service

  • @reecetbobby5347
    @reecetbobby5347 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fun idea: to make it a little more competitive, find someone that's added a Corksport Intake and Exhaust (once they're available) to the Mazda3 and then re-do the race. Would still lose to the R but would be a much closer race with the 10-15 hp increase. Hopefully there's some tuning options available for the Mazda in the future as well. I'm sure there's lots of untapped potential in that engine.

    • @nubtubbert
      @nubtubbert 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      15hp ain't gonna save it

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah but not that shit transmission.. better off buying something else

    • @reecetbobby5347
      @reecetbobby5347 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@roboticvenom1935 Depends what you're after. If you want a boy racer hatchback then the Mazda3 isn't the one to get. It's closer in comparison to an Audi A3 now than anything. :)

    • @MotoguyX5
      @MotoguyX5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea for sure. I have a 2015 Mazda 3 with a manual, did intake and exhaust and she is quickkk. I've had loaber Mazda 3s from the dealer and even in 2.5 like mine they are way slower feeling. The few horsepower gained is very noticeable, especially on the top end

  • @dominiquedistefano
    @dominiquedistefano 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Not only the DSG, 60 hp difference !

    • @SamCarLegion
      @SamCarLegion  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      40bhp

    • @fachman
      @fachman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      After 2-3 winters Mazda will be probably much quicker tuned by rust degradation

    • @petheato3291
      @petheato3291 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fachman that hasn't really been a mazda problem for quite some time. Granted the new mazdas could have some weird issues like the hondas that were recalled of course. My 2012 mazda 3 2.5 has been through 8 winters and hasn't rusted at all minus some exhaust piping and bolts underneath the car. My old protege 5 and nb miata were a different story though...protege 5 rusted so horribly.

    • @afrank3029
      @afrank3029 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SamCarLegionThats still a lot and made the comparision usless... but its allways fun to watch some acceleration.. :))

    • @GV-vm7mb
      @GV-vm7mb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fachman 2-3 winters later VW would have an engine replacement for the second time.

  • @lethalz9
    @lethalz9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I must say, I much prefer driving with the standard auto box in my Mazda 3. I've had a DSG and AMT before and I just prefer something else, either manual or auto. Interesting point though, my 3 is actually quicker off the mark if you go straight from brake to gas, instead of binding up the drivetrain like you were. I can't speak for the AWD turbo version, but give it a go and see if you notice any difference. Might be something to do with the Skyactiv gearbox design?

  • @thewirah1
    @thewirah1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a GTI owner, I will say that the problem is that VW is garbage with a nice bow on it. Great if you like spending your time working on your car rather than driving it. Mazdas are a lot more reliable.

  • @LionAndroid
    @LionAndroid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Fun fact. in South Africa the Golf R is used as a getaway car 9/10 times

    • @zee7931
      @zee7931 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lion mbhele, even better if they get their hands on a S3. You seen the drag race between Golf R and S3 by Car wow? S3 beats it.

  • @alexandredufour7358
    @alexandredufour7358 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    60 more hp and a proper launch control what did you expect lol

  • @swright5690
    @swright5690 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Great test. I'd pick the Mazda 3 any day and twice on Sunday over the VW (GTI or R) solely on the interior and especially when the MK8 hits the US market in 2021.

  • @simamnkelemagaba7832
    @simamnkelemagaba7832 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I own a mazda 1.5 2020 its even slow to respond than my previous VW polo 1.2... What were you thinking comparing a Mazda and a Golf R or is it called just an R ... Not even a Golf GTI would be fair or rather feasibility to compare. A normal 2.0 VW Golf engine would be enough!!!... Mazda is just a different car for the looks.

  • @kodakv603
    @kodakv603 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Like the Mazda red interior tho

    • @NeoNoggie
      @NeoNoggie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah no shit man, that thing is gorgeous

    • @mgn567
      @mgn567 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah far better quality than the vw

  • @mahmoudbadran5550
    @mahmoudbadran5550 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Mazda would have done way better if they fitted a double clutch transmission in there... but for a normal gearbox, results are absolutely fine!

  • @smithy3269
    @smithy3269 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Obviously a gold R is quicker. Looks wise the Mazda is in a different class.

  • @tuanxex
    @tuanxex 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The price different is a lot... 45k R vs 32k madza

  • @fokingking
    @fokingking 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Watched this video never expected for the M3TH to win, but as Sam Carlegion said it was so fun.

    • @SamCarLegion
      @SamCarLegion  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just a fun video. The Mazda3 with a good tune could actually catch up to the Golf R

    • @victorb.7579
      @victorb.7579 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SamCarLegion a very VERY GOOD tune. But EA888 has one of the greatest engine for turing its very easy have a Golf R with 450HP and more that 550 of torque. I think that Mazda could be best in other thinks but in raw performance never.

    • @SamCarLegion
      @SamCarLegion  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @ABCD 314 that would be silly

  • @joebloggs7177
    @joebloggs7177 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's not the DSG that makes the VW stand out, it's the HALDEX AWD system, VW picked it for a reason! Also the turbo's that spool early, and hold peak torque from 1400rpm. That's basically from the beginning if you launch with launch control.

  • @matteofitipaldi2245
    @matteofitipaldi2245 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Mazda 3 turbo with good timing on manual trasmission (high rpm shifting), would be fast as f..

    • @lewlei6334
      @lewlei6334 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not really,.just go Google the torque and ho curve of that engine

    • @devn3813
      @devn3813 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It wouldn’t be any faster than this.

    • @francisleduc2707
      @francisleduc2707 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Naaahhh🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @mzr3553
      @mzr3553 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wait till some clever guy do software and exaust and turnbup the boost.then u gona see a whole diffrent devil😀

    • @basslover352
      @basslover352 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The turbo engine in the mazda has zero top end pull. You're better off shifting at 5k than anything higher. You get the most pull in the 3-4k range in the mazda.

  • @joelopez5018
    @joelopez5018 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man, that Mazda interior is top notch. 👍🏼

  • @MrCraigy2705
    @MrCraigy2705 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Mazda will win in the reliability department

  • @keithw4920
    @keithw4920 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wish more of these online drag races included a NO LAUNCH just step from idle comparison. IRL, you dont always use LC or have time to set it up at the correct time. And some of us prefer not to grenade our gearboxes.

  • @mariusduplessis541
    @mariusduplessis541 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The Golf will win while the engine works... don't know for how long...the Mazda will have to be somebody's inheritance...

  • @ProWagenMedia
    @ProWagenMedia 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Note that the Golf R jumped ahead even before it had to shift.
    A manual R would do the same.
    It’s all about power delivery in these cars. German HP >Japanese HP>American HP. Meaning a 2021 911 with 400HP beats a C8 corvette with 495 HP. the DSG is nice but my 2016 GTI Manual was faster than my bro’s 2016 GTI DSG.

  • @danieljakobsen1289
    @danieljakobsen1289 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Damn that golf is all over the place 😂

  • @SilverScarletSpider
    @SilverScarletSpider 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nobody seems to be talking about the Mazda3 Turbo AWD nor Hyundai Veloster N much anymore… are they too expensive for what they are?

  • @jakeharbinson120
    @jakeharbinson120 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This was a lot of fun to film!! I think in a few years the Mazda will give my R a good run. But transmission needs to be tuned and the AWD needs to be a bit more traction. But the golf r was a fun car. That first run was on me 😅

  • @steelis9106
    @steelis9106 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    DSG on Golf shifts faster gears, but if you choose a reliable car for long-term operation for 5-6 years at least and 100 thousand miles, then a Mazda with an automatic transmission is preferable. Golf will smoke nervously on the sidelines).
    The reliability of German cars has long been in the past (for those who do not know about it yet).

  • @IBedtimeCookies
    @IBedtimeCookies 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Please please put out that GTI vs. Mazda 3 Turbo video! Trying to decide between them before EOY

    • @IBedtimeCookies
      @IBedtimeCookies 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Update: I test drove both for about an hour. The Mazda has a nicer interior for sure, and the AWD came in handy on some backroads w/ low wet spots, but it's just relatively boring to drive.
      The GTI is much more raw, the steering is more precise with that LSD (not referring to acid), and coming from a shitty '09 Nissan Altima, I really don't mind that it's a little less luxurious and stiff. It's miles better then my current whip.
      The GTI is more fun, hands down. The Mazda is more luxurious, hands down. That's kinda the decision... Then there's the wild card of whether or not AWD is important to you.
      I'm getting a GTI. #stancenation (or whatever they say)
      Thanks to the 1 person that read this.

    • @IBedtimeCookies
      @IBedtimeCookies 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mezzb Sounds like the right choice for your climate! I moved from Massachusetts to Texas recently. If I was still up there, I think I'd lean towards the Mazda for that exact reason.

  • @AndyC3.0
    @AndyC3.0 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just because it has a turbo doesn't mean it's fast, not all turbos are created equal.

  • @tyler.greene
    @tyler.greene 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i would still have my Mazda 3! its not about speed all the time. its about soul! vw has none!! it lost it back in the 80's!!

    • @joebloggs7177
      @joebloggs7177 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've driven both and gee the Mazda are a bunch of ricketty crap

    • @tyler.greene
      @tyler.greene 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joebloggs7177 I think you’re the first person that has said that! Lol 😂

  • @mzr3553
    @mzr3553 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Remember one thing guys.mazda doesnt build competition cars.mazda concentrate on reliability and family cars.but i still prefer my mps gen 1.my cobb accesport with launch control and flatfoot shift with 20psi boost makes it so alive.the torqsteer and rawness of the lsd.makes it so much more fun then any other hot hatch

  • @yes8032
    @yes8032 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Man the golf is a real winner there

    • @reecetbobby5347
      @reecetbobby5347 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not really considering it's a POS vehicle from a POS company with terrible reliability ratings. It wins the drag race and nothing more.

  • @junkiexl86
    @junkiexl86 ปีที่แล้ว

    The difference is one I would buy with 0 hesitation because its proven reliability, the other would be a fun lease-only car lol

  • @TheLuschko
    @TheLuschko 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Please Mazdaspeed 3 bk vs the New Mazda 3 Turbo

  • @adventurer4188
    @adventurer4188 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about a Jeep Cherokee 2.0T vs 3.2 or Cherokee 2.0T vs Bronco vs Alpha Romero vs Escape vs GMC Terrain , Subaru Forester XT? Compact 4x4 SUV tournament!

  • @MellowDTV
    @MellowDTV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mazda 3 vs Gti with good tyres

    • @meleana4
      @meleana4 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If the Mazda ran regular fuel it would be close, 227 vs 228 hp. Mazda's torque is 62 ft lbs higher though.

  • @danielperezhernandez5670
    @danielperezhernandez5670 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am not sure, but in my opinion this guy does not how to get the better of that machine.

  • @jonathanmartinez4514
    @jonathanmartinez4514 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Golf 1.4 vs mazda 3 turbo is not the same

  • @recepyilmaz8305
    @recepyilmaz8305 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    mazda 250 hp and VW Golf R 320 hp what do you want to do ?

    • @vroomgc
      @vroomgc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Golf R is 292hp and the Mazda has higher tq numbers 320 vs 280 so its not that much of a huge difference. The launch control in the Golf and the DSG are the big differences here

  • @marksuave25
    @marksuave25 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Smokescreen behind the VW.

    • @jrushen4235
      @jrushen4235 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think you will find that was ice vapour...

  • @033Fritz
    @033Fritz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    And the results were? Yep, that’s why imho the GTI is a better test AWD Mazda or not. Stock my 7.5, will pull on any hatch besides the GR, stage one from a 30 roll it doesn’t hang, time & time again.

  • @pedroperez6961
    @pedroperez6961 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There is no comparison!

  • @princeD1100
    @princeD1100 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    These drag races only proves that both cars are completely on two different stratospheres!! Please do a drag race which is more realistic between the Golf GTI and the Mazda 3 turbo

  • @stevemt3422
    @stevemt3422 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The Mazda 3 Turbo has sharper styling. But unfortunately the Golf R destroys it.

    • @tails300
      @tails300 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Golf will be in junk yard long before the Mazda 3 unfortunately.

    • @ivanpang3504
      @ivanpang3504 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tails300 Highly doubt that, golf's are known for being solid cars.

    • @tails300
      @tails300 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ivanpang3504 maybe in Europe but in America their long term reliability isn’t that great.

    • @Alexandru-T.
      @Alexandru-T. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tails300 Do they not take care of the cars in America?

    • @tails300
      @tails300 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Alexandru-T. well for one European spec Golfs get port and GDI injectors added to there engines which eliminates carbon buildup. US Golfs are GDI only and combined with turbos they gunk up pretty fast, the DSGs have been problematic too especially the 7 speed dry DSG.

  • @rafaelsoler3600
    @rafaelsoler3600 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Los dos coches tienen buen reprise, sin embargo para mi Mazda 3 en general es superior, en diseño interior exterior y tiene muy buena conducción, WV golf tendrá un repris superior , pero esto hoy en día solo tiene utilidad si corres en un circuito

  • @extraordinarywolf320
    @extraordinarywolf320 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Mazda dropped the ball in the transmission dept... Nothing to see here, the Golf will win every race.

    • @emiramick5305
      @emiramick5305 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That 6 speed is actually great transmission for what it is, very reliable when compared to VW, shifts are on point and it doesn't jerk like usual WV transmissions do.

  • @jinnjinnjinn620
    @jinnjinnjinn620 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mazda is neither luxurious, fast nor safety oriented, what are its selling points?

  • @wernerbloemwagen6878
    @wernerbloemwagen6878 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've never seen such a HUGE mounting bracket for a rear view mirror as in the MAZDA

  • @venzoah
    @venzoah 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well, the Golf R is over $10k more than the 3 Turbo. I better hope it's faster. Pitting it against the Golf GTI makes more sense.

  • @lk22a
    @lk22a 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    may be can add on a test with full load with passengers?

  • @justindtackett
    @justindtackett 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mazda has refined their design in recent years and that interior color choice is awesome.

  • @DWESENTERPRISE
    @DWESENTERPRISE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mazdaspeed or nothin! We used to be the best out there. It ain't the same without mazdaspeed!

  • @matthewgaines10
    @matthewgaines10 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    No surprise here. The Golf R has more horsepower, gear ratios, and faster shifting transmission. Nothing here that is any different than what one would expect.

  • @Koryhun
    @Koryhun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    There is a new Golf R now, its even faster.

    • @driveri1435
      @driveri1435 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Who cares

    • @levi_H_6
      @levi_H_6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And breaks even faster shit brand

    • @abelkahsay5122
      @abelkahsay5122 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@levi_H_6 icii0oiiooooogoohooooogiiogiooioovog

    • @manufacturedfear
      @manufacturedfear 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And uglier haha

  • @BeastboyRichie
    @BeastboyRichie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the Mazda better compares to a GTI or WRX. The R is definitely up there in the STi territory.

    • @Beastnappy
      @Beastnappy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Golf r is quicker than the sti

    • @fale892
      @fale892 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Beastnappy only in a straight line

  • @mattiasgabrieli9229
    @mattiasgabrieli9229 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The GTI is faster than the Mazda 3.
    The Mazdas are too slow....

  • @blower1
    @blower1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And thats with an old R on the 6 speed DSG.....the 7 Speed DSG mk7.5 is noticeably faster in the real world than the specs indicate, on launch mine consistently does 4.2s on the 0-60, measured with a draggy.

    • @victorb.7579
      @victorb.7579 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      7.5 would crush the mazda even more. more power, more torque, and the dsg 7. the author talked about tuning the mazda ... tune the Golf and you will see.

  • @vitreoushumor
    @vitreoushumor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In a 100,000 mile journey I know which one would win 😉

  • @faragogyorgy88
    @faragogyorgy88 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    As many others pointed out(and must be boring to hear/read), the R is in a different leauge. Not only like 20% stronger but AWD vs FWD. Tho with a remap that 3 could be a real sleeper.

    • @SamCarLegion
      @SamCarLegion  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mazda is awd

    • @faragogyorgy88
      @faragogyorgy88 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SamCarLegion My bad, Im sorry didnt do my research properly.

    • @vroomgc
      @vroomgc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@faragogyorgy88 Mazda has more tq also.. more homework needed

    • @faragogyorgy88
      @faragogyorgy88 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vroomgc In which case Mazda has done quite a bad job..

  • @raphaelschoof8710
    @raphaelschoof8710 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The VW is the better car definitely 💪🏽

    • @ma-moodz9217
      @ma-moodz9217 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But it stay a sausage !

    • @jamfd3s788
      @jamfd3s788 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      it cost 10k more lmao they aren't in the same market, fanboys i swear

    • @ogosh100
      @ogosh100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Too expensive.

  • @fredzeppelin3969
    @fredzeppelin3969 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As for reliability ratings, only a fool would buy any modern VW product

    • @Alexandru-T.
      @Alexandru-T. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, considering their reliability has improved in the last 5-8 years.

  • @yunicemathew604
    @yunicemathew604 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    🤣🤣how many more tries you needed to proof that the VW is faster

    • @SamCarLegion
      @SamCarLegion  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Till they both run out of fuel

    • @jakeharbinson120
      @jakeharbinson120 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Which mine almost did...

    • @SamCarLegion
      @SamCarLegion  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      True lol

    • @jrp8430
      @jrp8430 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A GTI will be faster as well 😂

    • @SamCarLegion
      @SamCarLegion  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jrp8430 that’s coming soon

  • @vicozil4695
    @vicozil4695 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You should compare against golf gti. The Golf R is a hot hatch.