2022 Acura Integra A Spec Takes on Golf GTI and Mazda3 Turbo GT, lesson learned Drag Race.
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- 2022 Acura Integra A Spec Takes on Golf GTI and Mazda3 Turbo GT, lesson learned Drag Race.
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Quarter mile numbers:
14.8 seconds Mazda3
13.6 Seconds GTI
15.7 Seconds Integra
Integra is slower than Civic Si
@@sertyuhg Because it's heavier.
But there's no way in GTi can do 13.6. Is this a typo?
@@ytsux9259 C&D got 13.6 while Motortrend got a 13.9 so, it's within that realm yeah.
That sounds about right because sometimes I count the times in my head. Do you happen to know the trap speeds?
Don’t think I’ve ever seen an Acura win anything on any of the races here lol
I'm thinking the same
The power it's not same in competitor LoL 🙃
They are too slow 😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂
And that will continue!
I own a 2023 Mazda 3 Turbo, as a daily driver/ my only car, it’s about as perfect as one could ask for
All that low end torque & AWD make the Mazda a classy beast around the city and 'burbs sprinting stoplight to stoplight. GTI comes on stout when you have enough room to wind her out. Bonus points for DSG. ASpec Integra looks good parked in front of the girlfriends nail salon.
Put a Golf R turbo on the GTI and keep up with 5.0 Mustangs in the roll race.
I love the Mazda. The thing that's holding it down is the six speed trans. On the other hand the GTI had 7 speed DCT
Automatic
@@MrSpamfriedrice DCT
The Mazdas “six speed trans” is a DCT? That’s news to me. Thanks
What I meant by automatic is the Mazdas transmission. Calling it a six speed implies it’s a manual transmission. What car enthusiast says “I drive a six speed”… and pulls up with an AT lol
@@MrSpamfriedrice ??? Six speed doesn’t imply manual transmission. It only implies that it has 6 gear ratios. If you choose to infer that that’s you choice but the video makes it very clear that it’s an AT. I think most people know the turbo Mazda doesn’t even come with a manual.
Sam leaning forward added 5 HP, but still dint help 😂
Definitely helped 🤣
🤣😭🤣
Forgot to yell “C’mon Acura!”halfway down the drag strip… voice activated NOS
Thx for always including these roll races! Many channels don't bother with it but to me it's much more important as I'm not particularly keen on launching a car I'm still paying for all the time :) Great channel, keep up the good work!
Glad you like them!
GTI is the best of the 3- for sure
Roll races are also more real world by far.
I feel like the Mazda 3 is slept on in the tuner world. I’ve been daily driving one for almost 2 years and it’s been my favorite car I’ve ever owned! It’s a 2012 2.5 liter 6 speed manual one! Super reliable, good on gas and it’s definitely a driver based car!
I think you’re onto something. Awesome to hear that yours has been so good! It makes sense. Mazda traditionally makes the most driver focused offering in every segment that they participate in….The relatively low sales volume may be to blame for the reason that tuners overlook them 🤷🏻♂️
@@mikeyfourbarrel8473 well the thing is of that year they have the Mazdaspeed3 but I’m looking for long term , cost friendly owner ship so I went with the Mazda 3 hatch instead of the turbo speed3. Everybody is like bro just get a speed3 I’m like I don’t want to deal with turbo issues and poor gas mileage. Even tho it’s not the speed3 it’s very fun and looks amazing too!
@@Chriskary1 I daily a 2008 speed3 hatch. Haven't had any issues besides replacement of clutch master cylinder over 140k miles on the odometer. Been getting 22 mpg average as well. Definitely one of my top fav cars I've owned
@@psychotuned I want one so badly! But the 2nd gen! They just scare me because of the stories I’ve heard.
The problem with the 3 is the transmission. It’s not meant to be sporty in the least. Such a missed opportunity by Mazda.
Being honest here, I didn't even care for driving until I drove a VW GTI mk6 and eventually bought one! The most fun car to drive! Buy one and your driving life is gonna be part of your fun life 🤗🤗
My old 2000 Accord EX V6 did a 15.7 quarter mile (and it’s still running!)
Just how efficient is that Accord tho? :p
Excited for this one since its representative of what younger car enthusiasts tend to buy. Cheaper, versatile and fun. My money is on the GTI, its the most balanced car and probably the fastest
And having mechanic as ur best friend.
I’d have a Suby if I was rich or my mechanic friend didn’t already have 3, making him too busy for me.
So I bought Acuras instead. 🤷🏾♂️😆
I’d go for the Mazda, it’s quick but the interior is gorgeous compared to the comp and a 10th of a second isn’t a big deal in that class
I really liked the video, The GTI is simply the best with its combination between engine and transmission, The GTI was surprising even without the extra HP and torque of the Mazda, it showed us how good that car is to win
I have 2023 GTi, my boys each have 2024 M3 turbo. Sedan and hatch. They love my GTI driving dynamic. M3 interior super elegant. M3 suspension feels every imperfection on the road. GTI infotainment not bad as all those reviews. Both cars near perfect.
Can't wait for the Integra Type-S to hit the streets! I guarantee that it will absolutely walk a Prius... I mean a Camry... I mean a Saturn ION...actually I really won't make any guarantees. 😅
Should have the Civic Type R engine.. so ya it should be fun!
3 semi spicy conveyance devices. The Mazda3 a surprise off the line to be totally honest. Integra Type S vs the GTI would be neat to see if ever possible.
Type S would be a Golf R competitor , since it’s basically a Type R in Acura Body.
The Mazdas have a LOT of torque comapratively due to the higher compression ratio from the skyactiv engines. I have a manual (non turbo, non AWD) which is lighter but of course much less HP and torque than the turbo. It seems like the torque is very focused in the 2.5k to 4k range though, under 2.5k it feels a bit sluggish when you're actually driving it but it still takes off real zippy when commuting / doing everyday driving. Mine has been wonderful as a daily driver and is fun with how zippy it is. The OEM tires on them are not great though...
I also personally LOVE the interior. I bought mine for $25k for full premium manual 2021 with the red leather interior and I love having an excuse to go for a drive just to be inside the interior and go zooming around.
Hey Sam I think the Integra and an accord 1.5 would be a pretty good matchup
I bet that would garner quite a few clicks!
Sam you have to move back and forth ,lean hard forwards 😂 to gain impulse 😅… good stuff !! 😂
vw's dct is just so good. the gti is more of a drivers car vs the mazda is just a comfy daily with nice interior and a slow gearbox lol. the reason why I got the mazda3 is because awd and living in a place that snows. if the golf r was cheaper I would've gotten that for sure!
gti + blizzaks = snow crusher
*I'm a new Mazda fan. They're so beautiful even if they're all alike.*
Line the Integra up with the ILX. I'd be interested to see how the old K24 goes against the 1.5T.
This!!!
My money is on the ILX
@@coolblue332 yeah, I'd be willing to bet too.
that k24 in the integra is no joke, so fun to drive
Put a turbo on that K24.
would be awesome to include the mini cooper as well
WAAIT. Help me. 1st of, great video, camera work & post. A+ Question about the Integra. You were in "Sport mode" but your gages were black and not RED. Did you do all of the video in not Sport Shift + Sport select mode? When you do both the gages are surrounded in red. Help?
The way he says Mazda cracks me up!
To be fair that is how they say it in Canada 🇨🇦
Northern thing, he's not alone! Kind of like how a sheep would say it. Maaaahhhhhhzzda.
Just like I said in the other video about the Honda Si, I would have parked that Acura Integra after the first race.
Glad they make videos like this for teens and normal people
Yeah all those teens dropping 35k on a car.
Turned out as expected for the Integra. Acura makes some of the best non-competitive cars on the market. Thankfully, there’s a robust aftermarket for turbo Honda products.
Thankfully dosen't equal reliability.
Why not put the 2.0turbo from the Accord in the Integra? Horribly underpowered!!!!
@@scottlouis1064 they will in the upcoming Type S. I would argue that this base model isn't underpowered though, it's just going up against elevated competitors. The base Integra should be up against the base Mazda3 and the Golf (although, in fairness, you can't buy that in America anymore). He's driving the family car version designed top to bottom for fuel economy versus the performance car versions of the other two. This is particularly an issue because he's using, by far, the slowest transmission on the Integra against the fastest transmissions on the other two, so it's amplifying that gap.
They purposely did this to sell Type-S. That is supposed to have 300HP. Unfortunately will still get smoked by Nissan Z and others in it's price range. Acura for some reason always plays it conservative = BORING
Type S coming soon.
Thx for the videos
Mazda always ♥️
I had one of those Mazdas and i affirm that it doesn’t produce 250hp not even close… not even with airplane gas at sea level and crank HP !! For sure i sold it 3 months after…that VW engine pulls hard!!
I owned an integra for 1 month and sold it. The CVT and big lack of power was why I sold it. Luckily, I only had 400 miles on it and only lost about 600 in trade.
And if you buy a mazda and sell it you loose loke 3,000 dlls
Why would you ever expect a car with a CVT to be fun? All cars with a cvt drive like they are appliances.
Those new VWs are no joke
My son has a 2021 Civic Sport with the exact same engine and cvt as the Acura. They rate the civic at 192 hp.
If your making a left turn across the oncoming traffic, I’d choose that Mazda for less anxiety.
man that 7-speed dct auto really does make a difference over a standard 6-speed auto
Can we get a Integra vs ilx drag race?
Integra is gonna be last Mazda 3 2nd due to the transmission and the gti first because of how good those transmissions are and power only way i think Mazda might win is off the launch
You said the mazda3 was using e85? How? Is that rly safe
You should include the Elantra Nline in some of these segments of cars just like the Elantra N it’s a huge bargain plus with the 7 speed DCT it’s no slouch
With a CVT you need to press a second before others so it can spin out and start moving. You are automatically loosing races if you floor it on the count of 3, since it will take a good second to spin out and start going.
Id buy this if it were on the drag but in the roll this should be a non issue. And ya its still sucks
"with a cvt"... what's the point of saying that... the whole reason to do this test in the first place is to measure how well the gearboxes can kickdown and translate into forward motion... at the end of the day if you need to "press a second before" to get going it's still a transmission issue not a comparison issue.
Tbh kinda figured the mk8 to come out on top 😂
I personnally have the same car (Mazda 3 turbo AWD red)
I love my car .. but the transmission is slow versus competition
With a 8speed trans ... It Will be alot better
This engine have lots of torque
But overall (daily Driver) great
I have the 3 also (sedan). It’s a rocket off the line but runs out of steam. I put CorkSport lowering springs on mine and MZS 12mm wheel spacers. It’s more of a “low and slow” type cruiser with a bit of punch when I need it. But I’m not drag racing anyone lol
@@Soh90 im waiting for the DRtuned tune .. i think this car have alot of potential
But Mazda use conservative tune from factory
Downpipe
Tune
Exhaust
@@francislesperance3958 Yes, it is VERY conservative from the factory. And the 6 speed auto doesn’t do it any favors. However I found that putting it in manual mode does lock the torque converter and allows a more aggressive launch. Personally I don’t think I’ll touch my engine. With the car being automatic only, it’s just not worth it to me. Plus I have 2 other cars so the Mazda can stay stock aside from the aesthetic/handling upgrades that I made.
Where are your shift gears? It would be much better with those
Need the Elantra N line there
Why does the Acura sound like it's shifting?
Good stuff
I wish Mazda would bring back their Speed 3 with this gen. It would look so sick with a factory aero kit and some larger wheels. It's already AWD and Turbo, just beef up the internals and give it a proper transmission.
Wait what makes the Golf catch up to the Mazda like that maybe the Golf transmission has a better ratio set up or is the turbo in the GTI way better and keeps a consistent boost??? The Mazda3 Turbo had more Hp so it should ha e gotten the clear wins but hey what do I know lol
GTI pulls constant until it's near 7k redline while Mazda falls off after 4.5k rpm. GTI is also underrated on horsepower and puts more power down to the wheels than the Mazda.
The DCT transmission in the GTI shifts lightning fast vs the slow shifting torque converter in the Mazda.
I think the Integra did well especially in the roll considering it has a cvt
no it didn't, the manual integra is barely any faster
I agree!
It's because of the HP
I know which one I'd drive for the winter
you guys need to provide the quarter mile times
Seriously! They started doing it a while back, but then stopped all of a sudden.
14.8 seconds Mazda3
13.6 Seconds GTI
15.7 Seconds Integra
@@SamCarLegionwas the Mazda using premium fuel for the full 250hp
The WRX called in sick.
Wrx would finish 3rd
For having a 1.5l engine with only 200hp and a CVT, the Integra did pretty well!
What is it about Ontario and all the great car content it creates?
I am in Ontario but FLA has the best car content in North America
The reason why the Mazda came in 2nd is because it's not a hot hatch/performance car. Yes it's got a Turbo and AWD but Mazda has specifically said that the MazdaSpeed is dead. They are focused on more comfortable and luxury type of vehicles. Mazda's aren't geared for performance hence the transmission and no sporty suspension. It may take most cars off the line, but then the power falls off a cliff. Just happens to be a good daily commuter with some power.
still beating the GTI on the 0-60 tho
I’d like to see the GTI against that tuned 10th Gen Civic CVT you had on the channel before.
the tuned civic will win for sure. make it tuned gti vs that tuned civic.
The GTI needs a downpipe and tune, it will beat that Civic, but it has no chance stock, that CVT civic walk a Type R like it was standing still.
@@DeadTreeDropOff a tuned GTI would smoke it, 300WTQ
@@tune2gr3is82 you on you're period, bruh?
@@mk5rob42GTI, especially the new mk8, doesn’t even need a downpipe to beat that tuned 1.5 cvt civic. Just a tune is all that’s needed
Let’s add the Forte and Elantra 1.6T, the Integra costs as much as some base RWD cars.
I don't understand why Acura put a CVT in a 30k+ Integra when a 27k ILX had a 8spd DCT. The ILX ran better numbers than the Integra too.
Mazda, power and torque advantage and awd its only 100lbs heavier how does the gti catch and pass it?
Mazda is rated at 210hp at the wheels. GTI is rated for 241hp at the wheels. Sources are from dyno graphs around the internet. Both figures should be from 91 octane fuel. If it's 93 octane or higher then Mazda would probably be 220hp at the wheels but I can't find a dyno graph for this.
@zero7523 makes sense yes 👍
@@zero7523 It’s mostly the transmission, if it had a quicker better transmission like the vw it would walk the gti on 91 or 93 octane. That 6 speed holds it back.
@@ZACH_95_ it's how the AWD system sucks power from the crank in the form of losses, as well as what you said regarding the transmission type and the gear ratios. It's disappointing but at least it'll guarantee smoking any GTI from a dig for the first 5 seconds 😂
@@layne4376 do you know how to read? I said what I said and the proof is on the video. GTI gets walked in the beginning
The GLI walked the Integra as well. With it's crap Hankook all-seasons lololol
The trans of mazda is from the cx9, trans of a suv🤷 with better trans the 3 Would fly
SO from a dead stop Mazda 3 Turbo is the fastest?
integra cvt vs elantra n-line dct or forte gt dct
I want to see mini cooper jcw against VW golf and Mazda 3 turbo
The entry level Integra is supposed to be where the WRX/GTI reside as far as power levels go. At least 225 to 240 hp from the detuned 2.0T in the Accord. Way to go Honda for hyping up everyone for nothing. It's going to be the same story with the Type-S whenever it debuts. If they're positioning Acura as the premium brand, then go all in. I'll be surprised if it bests a GTI much less a Golf R.
The Type S will have the Type R engine. Acura however, better add the 10 speed auto and the SH-AWD otherwise what is the point? As of now, the Integra is just a slightly more prestigious car than the Si. And to be fair, the Integra has always been a Civic.
Good
Mazda should add a DCT transmission
Acura/Honda needs to watch these videos and fix there cars. Watch the 2.0 accord and be more like that and how they use to be punching above there weight.
2022 Acura Integra Spectator Edition
mazda3T running premium gas?
E85 actually
Man, that GTI punches above its weight.
It's called sandbagging manufacturers put lower hp figures to trick their competitors into making a slower car .
How far we have come since the 1990's Japanese gentleman's agreement to cap 1400kg cars at 270bhp .🤦♂️
@@davidgriggs3967 No, conspiracy theorist, it's called superior German engineering. Guess what's the fastest production car on the Nurburgring? Hint: it's a German car.
@K P Sure ok you can keep believing a 1500kg fwd hatchback can do 13.6 with only 240bhp .
😄
@@davidgriggs3967 It's called German engineering! LOL
@@KP-xi4bj LOL! Superior German engineering my a$$. Just lies, about their engines real HP. Look at BMW, Porsche, Audi, etc. Or VW Golf R that has 340-350hp in reality not 320 as they claimed. Guess who has the fastest FWD production car. NOT german!
Can you add a track race to the comparison too? We know some cars are faster based on the power to weight. But a track can add an extra element.
now the real race is Integra Type S vs. Mazda3 Turbo vs. Golf R.
Bad matchup for the integra, not only is it heavier it was out matched by like 40-50 Hp by the other two. Don’t get started on the torque, yea it had no shot sad that u gotta probably put the Type S against these two which is not a good thing
Replace the Acura for the Kia Forte5 GT! That would be a interesting race of Hatch’s
Wonder why Honda/Acura is so conservative with their powertrains Aren’t they known for their engines
Let’s wait for the type s. Hahaha
I’ve always thought the Integra wasn’t well thought out by Acura. It’s trying to be too many things to everyone and fails at all of it. And that grille that their proud of is just a mess, not doing anything for the styling.
Why do you keep bringing spoons to a knife fight lol. Last week raced the SI against Elantra N or something lol. The Integra, why? 🤷🏻♂️
So for normal driving, the Mazda is going to be way better in regular driving. The gti is better for highway driving, but how bad it is from a stop would be so annoying
That gearbox in mazda killed it
also the factory tune cuts power at Higher rpm. There are a few tunes out now that resolve this issue. I would like to a see a video comparing the factory car to a tuned mazda3.
When a car goes cvt you know its over
it got shit on by the GTI wtf are you talking about? the MANUAl version of the integra is barely faster silly, they're ALL slow, ALL integras are slower then competition , it's a souped up civic si
@roboticvenom1935 over in the sense it sucks. Gti has a DSG.. integra never had a chance
New Integra=boat on wheels.
💀💀💀
They put an engine in it that belongs is a scooter.
Let's see a rematch with the Integra type S once it's available this summer!😎
Yeah but at what cost. The Type S won’t be a fair comparison anymore due to the ridiculous price tag when compared to the GTI
@@Siempredevacaciones were talking about racing & specs here, not the cost of the vehicle...
@@AcuraChannel yeah but the race here is about 3 cars on the same price range. The Type S would be way over and into a different category where it will most likely lose again
@@Siempredevacaciones I don't agree with the losing piece. 😎We'll have to see..I'm quite sure Sam will have it featured on the channel by this summer..
Bring on the Golf R In that case ;)
Man the Mazda shift so slowly it sounds like a manual. They have needed to update that 6 speed for at least 3 years now.
no actually they dont. they are one of the only vehicles in the class not using a cvt and they make the thing in house which is common for a lot of auto makers.. do i really need to mention that is not a performance trans.. i agree it could use a couple more gears but the transmissions they use are proven
Shoulda waited for the acura type-s
Why so it can still be slow, but look fast
@@v60polestar88 The Type-S is gonna have the type r engine.. what im hoping for doe is a 10 speed and SH-AWD
Interesting points:
1. Despite the Specs Mazda has, it got beat by the FWD GTI quite badly on a roll. Even from the Dig, keeping in mind GTI has tougher launch with FWD Set up. Yeah people will say, its AWD, heavier, and other excuses, but it has 2.5L engine and AWD set up to get a head start. So that's not a good set up, lower HP with much higher torque. And bigger engine producing just a bit more HP than the smaller engine...
2. the mighty 1.5L T is not too too bad. But that's too bad Acura did this to the Integra, coz then it can't win any race and just make them look bad.... Even the TLX Type S can't win any race against competitors. why would Acura do that? they claim that Acura is the 'performance' division of Honda? Really? I disagree because the Si will likely beat the Integra, the 10th gen accord has been proven to beat any TLX of its class, and the Type R would even probably catch up to the TLX Type S in half mile with smaller engine, FWD set up and Stick. People will again say oh TLX Type S is so heavy, yes, but it has 1 extra Liter engine to make up for it. So probably it's more like Acura is the 'Luxury' division of Honda, rather than 'Performance'.
On a Vacuum the integra is fine. But you hit the point not many cover, and that is that Honda said that Acura is the performance division. And in that regard, particularly the TLX Type S, has been a total let down.
@@android175 I think Honda needs to ditch the CVT. CVT’s hog tie any vehicle. ✌️
that's because on a roll power to weight ratio matters more. AWD is good off the line but from a roll it has more transmission losses vs a FWD. Also GTI has a faster transmission. Mazda 6-speed auto is okay but was not designed for fast shifts.
These are different cars with different missions. The gti is meant to be a performance car while the others aren’t. The gti’s DCT is much faster to respond and the engine is tuned for high end power. The Mazda is tuned to drive comfortably and deliver a lot of low end thrust for effortless acceleration.
This drag race is straight bullying 😂 all the engines are turbo charged, 1.5 vs 2.0 vs 2.5 😅 I wonder who’s gonna win
Lol expected nothing less from rebadged 1.5l Civic SI (opps I mean Acura Integra)
Phenomenal performance!!😉
Huge price tag for the same performance we had back in 2012
@@hondass98 they brought same to legendary last gen Integra, my cousin had one 2001 model in white color. We had good times.. riding around.
Man if only #Mazda would offer that AWD Turbo with a manual transmission that Mazda3 would be so much better!
2 more gears and it would really be something special
Nope.
This what I'm saying - Acura building good cars with at least a major flaw. Best example is 2nd gen RDX with no sh-awd, this Integra with 1.5T Instead of amazing 2.0T...
the funny part is, the 2nd gen RDX with the basic AWD was actually quicker than the current RDX with SH-AWD. SH-AWD significantly improves cornering/handling, but adds over 200 lbs of weight.
And the Integra Type S with the 2.0T and 300+ hp is coming this summer.
If u race the Z and the Integra, one of them got to win 😂😂😂
VW DCT delivering as always! If only the Mazda 3 had a better transmission, it would’ve been a different story…
They make it in a manual in the states. :D
Wooow unbelievable but I’m still getting the Acura Integra ❤
Mazda's computer: "Should I upshift or not... hmmm... I am not sure... Ok, let's upshift (finally)." Sorry Acura, that was and is a missed opportunity.
The GR86 would have been a good competitor in this race
Those GR86s are quick.
I have a tuned/modded MK8 GTI and got to “race” against a GR86, it surprised me how quick it was and it actually kept up.
I spoke with the owner later, cool car , quicker than I thought
A rematch between the manual Integra and Mazda would be interesting. According to car&driver the manual is faster.
it got shit on by the GTI wtf are you talking about? the MANUAl version of the integra is barely faster silly, they're ALL slow, ALL integras are slower then competition , it's a souped up civic si. the manual integra is not faster then the Mazda 3 turbo, never has and never will be
@@roboticvenom1935 Are you sick bro?
one more thing u get a acura u need the v6 lol test drove one! really fast but more money
Knew the Acura was gonna lose before the video even started
I mean, everyone can guess it, it’s not that hard, other 2 have way more power than Integra, I don’t even know why Sam has to throw Integra in this race to begin with.
@Black Whirlwind The joke is that the Acura loses every race on this channel lol.
@@mzzs9993 that means you have missed a race (MDX Type S vs GV80), or 2 if you count TLX Type S vs Accord 2.0T, or 3 (RDX vs Q5)
@Black Whirlwind keyword: *joke.
Just saying, it does lose MOST the races. Nothing against the Acura though. 👍
@Black Whirlwind I'm also talking about their cars. Not their SUVs like the RDX etc. Those are decently quick lol.
So many people complaining about the Integra being slow while this is the base engine and it’s faster than the old ITR 💀💀
Damn Acura like limbo Slice they pack a punch but no matter what they alway get knocked out
Acura vs Kia forte gt👀
When reliability ain't good enough lol
Yeah because on a daily basis, the car that is slightly faster is more important. NOT! I will take reliability every day over a car 1s faster to 1/4 mile. Only kids that have no car, care about 0-60 times