Muscle vs Turbo: The New Volkswagen Golf R Takes on the New Mustang in a Drag Race!
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.ย. 2024
- ( www.alltfl.com/ ) Check out our new spot to find ALL our content, from news to videos and our podcasts! The Volkswagen Golf R is the hottest and most capable Golf you can buy, but for the same money you can get a 480-horsepower Ford Mustang GT with a rip-snorting V8 engine. But how much quicker is one over the other? Kase takes each car to the track (and a ringer) to find out!
( / tflcar ) Visit our Patreon page to support the TFL team!
Watch more videos from TFL Studios:
The Fast Lane Truck ( / tfltruck )
The Fast Lane Car ( / tflcar )
TFLoffroad ( / tfloffroad )
TFLbike ( / tflbike )
TFLnow ( / tflnow )
TFLclassics ( / tflclassics )
TFLtalk ( / tfltalk )
TFL Podcasts:
TFL Talkin' Cars Podcast ( redcircle.com/... )
TFL Talkin' Trucks Podcast ( redcircle.com/... )
#dragrace #new #car
Manual golf VS automatic mustang isn't exactly a fair fight
V8 vs 4Cyl
High 400hp vs Low 300hp
Yeah fr they need the dsg one
Both manual or both dct would've been fair.
It’s realistic though. Manual take rate for golf R is decently high
As stated in the video, both cars are essentially the same price, so looking at value. As well, both manufacturers claim an equivalent 0 to 60 time, so should be relatively equal in that department. They did point out most of the inequalities, so they’re quite up front about all that.
DSG makes a huge difference compared to the manual gearbox...
The fact a manual was used over a Auto DSG made me sick. This video is a no from me.
Does the dsg variant come with more hp? If not, the result would've been the same.
@@edwpolanco yes it does and it shifts faster then a human Google the golf r manual vs dsg stats
@@tombentley6329 What about 30mph race?
Wrong - just take a look at the diff in performance (as documented by Car&Driver): "2022 Golf R with the seven-speed automatic transmission hit 60 mph in just 4.1 seconds; with the six-speed manual, the Golf R needed 4.9"
The mustang has 100hp more and a 10 spd auto transmission. Would have been better if the VW had a DSG trans.
I agree the dsg would have been better for comparison, but the manual is more fun and has just as good of a time as the dsg, not TOO much of a difference. Sometimes (extremely rare) the manual might actually get a better time. Either way the Volks had it's advantages too.
@@leofhr2966type R DSG O-60 is 4.2 manual is close to 5. No way a manual could ever beat a DSG. Thats why Porsche won’t put a manual is some RS models. The all important lap times were pitiful while testing is manual.
@@leofhr2966 Absolutely not. The DSG does the quarter in 12.4 at 111 mph. The manual is almost a second slower at 104 mph. Not only does the DSG produce more torque, but that transmission never drops boost.
Is actually 141hp more.
@@layne4376 Manuals are fun but they are slow, this is not the 90s.
For the money the Mustang is hard to beat. The V8 sound is unmistakable
its actually insanely easy to beat... like buy a clapped out model 3 for 15k.... leave it in the dust.
@@omardevonlittle3817M3P for 15K? Where?
That model 3 will last a month before you need to put more money in to it
@@omardevonlittle3817 lolololl not all of us are teenagers
Same thing are saying people in Germany about the price of VW.
The DSG in the VW 'R' would have been a better choice.
No one buys a Mustang for interior quality, space, or interior details. It is the engine. Still miss mine.
What happened to it bro
You cant compare a base Mustang interior against the top of the line interior of another manufacturer. If you at least got the premium high option has 5 interior color choices. The base has just 2, all black which you have and black/grey.
Yes you can bro they cost the same😂 once you add options to a GT they can get up to 65k. You can get M2 for that.@decimator5494
@@Mr0sitoyup, hope they have fun in their fast rental car😢
@@HD_KerinoI’d take the mustang any day over any bmw
Next race: Camaro ZL1 10 speed vs Mustang EcoBoost with a manual!
camaro is 💀
Not a fair race 😂 both auto
🤣 the ZL1 auto V8 2001-2012 sucks it does 1/4 mile in 14.7
11.4@124
@@nyelement007 Yea probably the 2024 one but not even 12.5@124 at best. I saw 3 drag race there best was 14.7 but this is the 2001-2008 model.
I didn't buy a mustang thinking someone was going to sit in the back ! Buy your own!
I’ve had 5 over the years and the back seat generally gets stripped out right before a/c 😂
Wow you have to do a better comparison. First get a better driver for the Golf R if you are going to put a manual against the 10 speed auto Mustang. 16's is atrocious unless you are running in the stratosphere. That is just bad driving. Second comparing a 6 sp manual to 10 speed auto is too huge a difference for any kind of fair comparison. Compare auto to DSG and manual to manual and you will see much closer races.
The driver didn't account for 3 seconds.
@@jasonhabedank7122 Closer to 4 seconds. Golf Rs run mid to high 12s anywhere near sea level. Even at altitude it should run way quicker than 16seconds with even a fair driver who knows how to launch and shift.
According to C&D....
A 486hp auto Mustang
A "properly matched" opponent Golf R DSG
And a C43 AMG as presented...
All 3 ran 3.9s 0-60 times using launch control.
All are fast in their own way and not full EV's so let's rejoice in that.
@5:30 It looks like FORD just glued a couple of tablets onto the Mustang dash😂
The Golf R with the Dsg would take it. 100%
$46k for a golf. Never thought i would see that.
imagine paying $63k for a mid size Toyota pickup truck lol
Right!?! I still remember our family got a Mustang Saleen S281 convertible for less than $30K twenty years ago. But in fairness, with all the safety technologies and driving aids, I think the price increase is justified in the sense that you are safer with more relaxing driving experience.
Imagine that we pay that for a standard golf in Europe. The golf R is about 70 k
Just paid 50k for an Acura Integra lol when i was 17, corvettes were 50k
Yeah, I wouldn't be shelling out for that.
What's really crazy is that $46K is now considered a "lower" cost car. Compare Consumer Price Inflation/Index before Jan 2020 to today. They are two different worlds. Maybe we should send another $100B to Ukraine and I say this as someone who happens to be 50% Ukranian.
Great job guys...!
Not quite. But it is approaching the 50k average car cost.
And people don’t see the inflation or think the economy is doing well
@@edbowejr6130 That's the crazy part. You can't even get a basic Honda Civic for less than 30k these days whereas, only a couple years ago, would have been in the high teens.
@@TheWolfMatt Yes, but that was in the "Old Days"...a whole 36-48+ Months Ago. Within the time of a lease agreement.
You want to really be scared...the US National Debt is increasing now at a rate of $1 TRILLION every 100 days!
Jeez I remember the good old days when you could get a new 5.0 gt for 23k 😂
Auto against 6 speed, where is the DSG not a fair race.
With the DSG it would not be a fair race. :)
boo hoo
The manual mustang is faster than the 10 speed auto
No dsg no launch mode vs auto trans with drag mode? Not sure what what they were going for here?
@@bryanfisher9087 basically performance cars at same price. That mustang actually $41,000 where I’m at. The golf r $46,000 with manual $48,000 dsg. To me that leaves the owner with 5,000-7,000 dollars to make it quicker and your own
My bone stock dsg Golf R ran 12.6 @ 108 down here in Phoenix which never gets good air and is at 1700’. How does it lose 4 freaking seconds going to Colorado?
Pretty sure they ran it with traction control on, it kills the manual Golf R
Most tests show Golf R's DSG's running the 1/4 mile without mods in the 12's and manuals in the 13's even if you take away one second for the altitude a manual should run right around the 14's.
Mine ran 12.5 @ 110.39 here in Vegas... it doesn't lose 4 seconds. It's a combo between manual trans and bad driver.
@@JVette01 Yea, man...tell them, expose this BS video. :)
@@JVette01 when are you taking your car back with the stage 1 tune?
What amazes me is 46000 for a GOLF!!!
Still below the average price for a vehicle in 2024 - I cannot believe what pick-ups sell for - talk about a rip off!
What’s crazy here where I live in East Tennessee. That mustang 41k and the golf r 48k.
I mean its a good car you should always Pick the dsg trans
They'll sell every one! It's a cult following....
46k is nothing, autobahn R sold for $68K in Dubai then went down to $54K
The slow mo launch with the Mustang was just beautiful.
Everyone complaining about the comparison between two very different cars needs to understand a company life TFL does’t have a budget of Top Gear so they need to make content with what they have.
I’m sure they’d love to have a DSG Golf but they might not have had the option.
Great video as always guys I really enjoy your content.
Cheers Pat🇦🇺
While I agree with your premise, I'm a bit disappointed in the way this comparison is presented. There needs to be some sort of purpose. Something they're trying to prove about the differences between them. All they seem to be doing is say: "The Mustang is a better car for going fast." Which is kind of a no-brainer.
They have no budget?? But yet they use a Mercedes Benz 😂
@@Empok_Nor you might want to go read that comment again bud, I said they don’t have a budget of Top Gear who could just put an order in to any manufacture for what ever car they desire.
Then they won't get as many likes and subscribes. You've got to pay to play!
@@likeatree-ei8it how can pay with money you don’t have? All businesses have a strategy, I’m sure they’d have hypercars every video if they could.
The 5.0 with a six speed manual gear box is the way to go... fun to drive, fun to wake up the neighbors and reliable all day long... hell it even gets decent mileage.
You must like being the slow one! Smh
Why would I want to wake up the neighbors? Because I am a jerk?
The kid who likes to annoy his neighbors.
Oh yeah I have a 6 speed manual and it’s a kick. 1st and 2nd pull like a freight train. Just a few bolt ons and a race tune, and this car is a monster. Auto is nice in traffic and for drag racing but that’s the only advantage IMHO.
Americans don't know how to drive a manual transmission.. every year less and less Americans buy stick .. the wussyfication of the USA is strong. Change the W to a P.
When I was younger, build quality was not a major concern or care of mine. As I get older, a balance of build quality and performance is something I consider more seriously.
The 24 mustang is sharp! Looks great and drives great 💪🏻
Looks too much like a Camaro.
The slow motion of the Mustang off the line was incredible!
Man y'all making me want to buy another mustang 😅
16 SECOND QUARTER MILE IN A GOLF R U MUST BE JOKING, they normally run low 13 😳
They're a mile above sea level.
Air is thinner and It vastly affects performance.
They have said this over and over, try listening sometime.😏
@@thatfordguy2268 3 seconds seems excessive.
@ContentinMesa poor track with barely any grip, poor air (turbo charged barely hets affected), poor overall run, 3 seconds is not shocking chief
Clearly have no idea what you’re watching.
Turbocharged cars are not affected by altitude the way a NA car is. A NA car loses 3% hp per 1000' elevation a turbo is less then 1%
Love the slo-mo at launch!
The backseat is actually fairly usable, my kids when they were young loved them. My opinion, it's clear Ford put an effort into making the rear seat usable. The Mustang is appointed with one of the better 2+2 rear seats that can be found. Say what you want about that VW, at a quick glance it could be one of 20 different cars. At a glance a Mustang is instantly recognized. There comes a time when you no longer want a 4 door car, buying a sports car makes a statement in your life. For those in that market; a Mustang is very hard to dismiss. It's hard to say that the shear competence of the Mustang hasn't forced BMW to significantly increase their game with the BMW M cars. Here's your decision maker when comparing a M2/3/4 vs. a Mustang, sure the BMW is a quicker, it's nicer on the inside, however you know with zero doubt, you're gonna be dumping money into that M car to keep it on the road and out of the shop. A Mustang on the other hand is built to drive to hell and back as if were any other day.
Its the incognito factor about the Golf R that makes it attractive.
@@krane15 For some, I recognize that.
But there's no way an adult is going back there (even a short petite one) for more than a mile or two. The VW, while not a cavernous rear seat, is capable of adult comfort even on a road trip.
5:25 I'd just like to mention, judging a base model 300A package on interior quality isn't too fair. The GT Premiums with the 401A package feel CONSIDERABLY better. Soft touch pho-leather completely covers the drivetrain tunnel, your dash, door cards. There's accented stitching on every surface, the seats are leather, etc. Sitting in the two of them is night and day .
Very true. And I optioned mine Atlas Blue with the Carmine Red interior....fire!
Exactly. The GT Premium vs the DSG R would have been much more even on price/ interior quality/ performance.
Omg give the golf R a dsg and make it fair... The Dsg is amazing!
Omg that guy can't drive a manual!
The guy was awful at manual. Yes, the DSG is a worlds difference.
He's 96 what would you expect lmao
@@saigoneze4465In a manual your trap always same its his 60 foot must be in the 3. My friend first try was also 16@97mph but after 5 tries he did 13.8@97mph but his 60 foot is 2.0. Even your great in a manual your going to loose half a second its not a fair race 😂 .
Can we get a redo with the DSG Golf R? It would be good to see the difference. I know everyone else is complaining but it’s fair to say it’ll be a successful video after all 😂
They probably just run what's available to them. Anyone with a brain would've brought the DSG if they're trying to race a car with 171 more horsepower.
We need the 7-speed DSG dual clutch Golf R.
Of course. The manual is limited by the ability of the driver.
@@krane15The manual is also just slower no matter who is driving the R compared to the DSG. Same deal with the Mustang and the 10 spd auto vs the 6 spd manual. The individual gears are quite tall in both cars for the manual which is part of the reason.
Loved that Slow-mo at the beginning of the drag race😍
Next time, put a better driver in the Golf R. That car is much faster than that…
It wouldn't matter. The manual is only so fast, regardless of how talented the drive is. The many car also has less hp than the automatic. The 2025 are up-to 333hp.
you lost me as soon as you guy showed the vw with the manual transmission (REALLY?) , with a DSG the vw should be able to at least make this video interesting to watch , race the two cars with the same transmission (auto or manual) , is that so difficult???
Yes, actually it is.
@@grantdavis6011yes off course;😮there are just hundreds of mustangs out there with a manual transmission; getting one is such a “difficult task “ to accomplish right? ufff😅 , got it.
Id love to see this vs thw dsg golf r. My golf r (older) dsg ran 12.8 all day bone stock. Hot lapped. No tire pressure adjustment. Jsut ran 12.8s the manual version is more than a second slower in the 1/4
Agree my cousin had a mk 7.5 golf r dsg auto he did 12.8@108. Yes manual a second slower but only if your great at it. Would have smoked mustang by one second.
Yeah why not do both manual or both auto.. makes no sense
agree not a fair race they make it sound like the mustang is fastest. Bro if they bring the auto golf r the mustang would loose by 1 second. Also they brought mercedez auto wich is great but also not a fair race bc its the worst germain car out of audi volkswagen and bmw. I dont know it looks like they purposly did that to make look like mustang is fast 😂
Golfs do not come in auto, so either R DSG vs Auto Mustang or both manuals
@@mkviis DSG is auto its direct shift gearbox. It shows your american 😅
@@totov7673 dsg is dual clutch. Auto is torque converter.
@@totov7673 saying dsg auto is like saying manual auto. Auto has planetary gears, dsg is a manual gearbox in the inside.
So saying dsg auto is like saying manual cvt mustang. It makes no sense so stop saying dsg auto 😂 dsg auto 🤣 you're so funny
Let’s remember commenters, the Mustang is on All Seasons and the Golf is on Pilot Sport tires. Get a driver with a redline clutch drop and it would have done better but would still lose in the end.
Nothing beats a V8 for the fun to drive.
False. The Golfs are tossable and on a winding road will put a grin on your face every time.
As a massive fan of both mustangs and Golf Rs, you have no idea how much I love this video 😊
Doesn't the guy driving the Mercedes know how to brake boost?
He clearly doesn't
Actualy he did great its a mercedes thats how it is, there not great in performance. They did great to bring another auto but still not a fair race. In fact in germany they buy audi volkswagen bmw porsche lambo. Alot of german avoid mercedes bc they know its not great in performance its actualy more for class and daily drive.
For the people complaining - the mustang is rwd and the golf awd. On an unprepped surface thats good enough of a trade off for the manual in the golf vs auto in the mustang
I understand sometimes you have to work with what you have, but as soon as you mentioned that the Golf was a manual, I knew you guys couldn't be serious about this video. Or maybe you were, which is even worse. If the point was to demonstrate the value of the Mustang in terms of performance, unfortunately, you missed the mark. First, the 0-60 time of just over 4 seconds that you mentioned for the Golf R applies when it is equipped with the DSG. The DSG only adds $800 to the MSRP but significantly enhances performance. Second, you quoted the Golf R as having 315 hp and 295 lb-ft of torque. Again, this would be correct if you were discussing the DSG version, which is not featured in this video. The 6-speed manual version has less torque than the DSG, at 280 lb-ft. There’s no reason to expect a 315 hp sport compact to be faster than a 480 hp sports car, but if you're going to base the entire video around a particular car, in this case, the Golf R, at least use the car whose stats you are quoting. To reiterate, the car you are discussing (Golf R DSG) and the car you have (Golf R 6-Speed) differ significantly in performance. Mustangs and pony cars in general have always offered great performance for the dollar. That's not newsworthy. However, trying to make a point and then choosing the worst example of a car that is already at a disadvantage doesn’t help your case. If the goal is to show how fast a car can be compared to similarly priced cars, the Mustang, as optioned in this video, is actually more expensive than the Golf. I'm not criticizing the inclusion of these cars in a video together, but at least make an effort to properly inform viewers about what's happening. Additionally, continuing to discuss how much faster the Mustang is, as if there isn’t a clear reason why the Golf R ran a 16-second quarter mile (maybe 15 in better condition), is hard to understand. Motorweek recorded a 12.5-second quarter mile at 111 mph in the Golf R. Car and Driver reported the same time as Motorweek, and Carwow reported a 12.3 second quarter. The Mustang in this video ran a 13.6-second quarter mile (assume a 12.6 in better conditions). Don’t skirt around the issue; address it directly. Otherwise, thanks for the time and effort put into these videos. I just wish there was a bit more purpose and understanding behind what is going on here.
I don't even think they used launch control on the Mercedes.
You couldn't have said this better. You saved me from writing the paragraph myself 😂
@@evital7527 This is correct. The Mercedes should've beat the Mustang from a dig if they used launch control and actually started at the same time. The guy started late AND didn't use launch control..
This is an apples to oranges comparo with nothing unsuspecting to offer. The point?
Having owned a 2010 V-8 Camaro & Jeep SRT: both absolute beasts - I can say I love my 2024 Golf R manual (soon to be modified to Stage 1) much more. So very immersive an experience and with a short throw shifter & AWE exhaust upgrades- this will be more bang for the book than should be allowed. Oh & it's the best daily driver on the road...
The price? Car for the dollar and that's it.
Worst launch I’ve ever seen on an AWD car
The computer cuts the power when you put it into full throttle and release the clutch. Is not the driver. If it doesn't you break it in 1 week. welcome to the vw world
@@harrymaier5727 lol I literally own this car, it doesn’t bog like that , 100% driver issue
Yea its a pain manual but a great driver knows not to floor it right way my friend did 13.8@97 yes took him 5 tries but 16 is just probably there only try.
Facts the diver cant drive manuel
@@Niedersachse40 Its not easy trust me it took my friend 5 to 6 tries his first try was 16@97mph 60 foot 3.0 All that change was 60 foot went to 2.0 13.8@97mph
Any car buyers looking for a new car probably wont line up a VW Golf, a Benz and a Mustang as a choice. These cars are targeted at different markets. Gotta luv the v8 though. There is no replacement for displacement, no substitute for cubic inches. Sadly, Mustang is the last v8 left in the market now, its all there is, and its days are almost certainly numbered, for now at least. Mustang is a much simpler car technically, service and repair costs will be much higher with the German cars, they are technically more complicated.
Well - if parents stop sending their kids to activism camps - I mean - Public school - then we can go back to an economy that is based on reality - not “muh emotionz dude bruh”
Fathers in homes and home school = will help save the world from the beta males that are working to destroy it
you need to be drunk to understand this comparison
Should have brought the new Model 3 performance.
I’m too drunk to taste this chicken
Mustang for me, but I don't live in the US, here in rural France, the back roads are narrow so it's the VW or a small Ford!
Mustang 💪
I would be okay with comparison of mustang v8 manual vs Accord 2T auto (tunned if you can)
The M240i XDrive would be the perfect competition. It’s a 2 door coupe.
With a tune = deadly launch!!
True...but the price is a difference
C&D did a 3.9s 0-60 and 12.4@112 mph with the MK8 Golf R and about a second slower in the 6 spd manual.
I would be happy having any of these cars cuz they are all a bit of fun and also functional
A DSG would have made a world of difference
Dear TFL ,dont mix appels with bananas, they are not the same Fruit ,Ultra fast Automatic with Launch Control against a manual transmission??
The Mustang doesn't have launch control.
What launch control ?
@@zeke63 Yes it does. You can set the launch at several different RPM points.
It's not supposed to be apples to apples. That's boring. The real world exists for a reason. If you rolled up to a light and wanted to race to the next one what would happen. That's what's cool about these comparisons. They are both 46k and built they way they are built
Same price……different ice cream flavors…..great content!
I currently own a 2014 mustang 5.0, so I'm not being biased when I say this but ford could have done a better job with that interior. Last week I sat in a dark horse and I was disappointed in the interior for a 65k-70k car. Honestly I prefer the interior of the 2018-2023 mustangs with the digital cluster gauge. Might trade mine in for one of those lol
DSG and simply a stage 1 tune on the Golf R and this would have actually been interesting.
I believe unitronic has a stg1 tune for the R brings up the power figures up to 465hp just wth a simple tune
How much would DSG and that tune cost? Silly statement.
@@njo9966 $1000
@@njo9966 APR DSG and engine tune would be about $1000 give or take $100.
🤣 even bone stock auto golf r would smoke the mustang 12.8@108 but this is mk 7.5
That screen and capacitor buttons in the VW may look nice but they’re way more frustrating than the Ford’s. I’ve lived with both and it’s not comparable. The Golf 8.5 reverts to steering wheel buttons and is meant to improve the software.
Bruh yall tripping down here, the comparison is just for fun. Out of curiosity, yall getting ur feelings hurt
I'm surprised the mustang ran that quick at altitude. Your partner needs to go drag racing school. The golf r with 97 mph trap speed and all wheel drive should run low 14's. Thanks for the video.
The manual Golf R sucks but still should run in the 13's even with their elevation.
Try comparing apples to apples guys.
Not exactly a fair fight but this in a way proves that there's no replacement for displacement in a straight line.
I don't care the performance, it can be the last car, but the sound of the Mustang gives goosebumps; that's enough for me to buy that car, although the interior is questionable. I don't like any electric cars, not even hybrid ones. Thanks for the video.
So fake, the Golf can be way waaay faster than this!
The Mustang GT too.
Ford > VW
Less shots of the drivers face driving and more shots of the actual race
Everyone complaining about manual vs automatic. When the turbo and awd also play a hige factor, especially at that elevation.
All meaningless with a poor driver.
This is why manuals are going away. Slowest shifts. Worst performance.
Manuals are going away because most Gen-Z's can't drive them.
Manuals are fun but 90% of people don't know how to race/shift properly in them.
The Coyote engine is legend. Then can get a 50-state legal, 750 hp Roush supercharger kit for only $8.5k...
Agh, no DSG on the Golf. I’d still have the Golf R (with DSG) with the APR stage 1 tune. Better fit and finish on the Golf.
Lol better fit and finish on a VW 😂😂😂all i see is plastic Garbage 🗑️ inside the cabin even a damm honda civic has a better made and better looking interior nowadays then that golf 😂lol vw clowns these days
The background music at 10.37 is the same as IMSTOKZE in the UK uses.
Mustang all day. Especially where I live which is close to sea level and never snows, rarely rains. Anyone who would pass on that Coyote V8 for a nicer interior isn't really a car person in my book.
I did not know that 486 was almost 500. Thanks for the useful information.
Cmon auto vs auto
You can provide the Auto for them???
@@joshc606 If they don't have an Auto then the least they could do is not quote stats from the DSG Golf R to set the entire video up. Also maybe explaining to viewers the Sahara-sized gap in performance you get with the DSG vs. the 6-speed. It's neither informative nor genuine to go about it the way they did.
Such a fair fight… The Americans were too scared to bring a VW Golf R with a DSG….
13.6?!?!? my stock ss camaro with exhaust and tune get 11s is it the altitude?
No launch control on the Mercedes??
no it does not have it its a torque converter but to fair mercedes are not great for drag racing or performance even a germain from germani would tell you to avoid it 😂. another non fair race.
these newer mustangs really do surprise, all and all neat race, Ty for sharing.
BRO its not a fair race if they bring the golf r auto version he would have done 12.5 🤣 one second faster than the mustang but with only 300HP
More random car races like this. Different than other channels. I dig it.
Our next race is going to be a 1997 Toyota corolla with unmatched tires vs. a 2024 Porsche 911. And.............go!
After watching this I guess you guys have never heard the true saying, "There is no replacement for displacement." You can keep up for a little bit, but given time and length the displacement king usually ends up walking away. Cheers.
When it comes to value youre not gonna beat the mustang. You can buy a 5.0 for $49,995 with a supercharger installed developing 810 hp and a full factory warranty! Pretty awesome.
Did you forget fuel economy?
@krane15 I had a 800 hp mach 1 and could still get 28 mpg highway. If you stay out of the boost it drives like an na v8
Golf is what I bought. Manual as well. Love it. Who cares about 1/4 times anyway. These cars are all fun, just get out and drive 'em.
I love the vw check engine light on
This made as much sence as racing a motorcycle and a bicycle
I’m surprised the VW is only 350# lighter than the Mustang.
There's just something about the sound and feel of a good old-fashioned American V8
Slow!! not impressed 13.6 😂 my bros A3 quattro auto stage 1 does 13.0@106 only 280HP 😂 now his stage 2 12.3@111 328HP only.
My take, the Mustang for weekend fun,and the VW for the daily driver family car. The Mercedes while it has a Pretty interior, for some reason doesn't appeal to me enough to spend that much on.
DSG R is almost a full second faster on the quarter mile than the manual.
You guys can do better.
Base GT. Get in a GT Premium if you want the premium comfort features. That’s why different models exist. Don’t think it’s fair to criticize the quality of an interior base model of any car. It’s a base model for a reason lol.
$46,000 for a Golf?
What?
The world has gone insane.
DQ350 Golf R would absolute annihilate that mustang. I'm eating manual GT350R's for breakfast with 800 bucks in it. :/
The DSG Golf R has been timed at 12.5 seconds in the1/4 mile by Motorweek. The tested time here was 16 seconds?
Yes combination of manual and bad driver. BUT trust me the manual, in drag race is a pain not easy at all. I had a mk 3 focus ST 250HP 270tq fwd manual i went drag racing what a pain My first try was exact same 16.0@95mph. Anyways took me 5 to 6 trys my best was 15.5@95mph all I improved was my 60 foot went to 3.0 to 2.4. I bet his 60 foot was realy high in the 3 wich for awd is bad. I also had a friend the same day he had exact same manual golf r mk7.5, samething his first try also in 16 BUT by the end of the day his best was 13.8@97mph his 60 foot also went from 3.0 to 2.0. Even if your great at the manual and get a great launch you going to loose 0.5 second alone just shifting. The auto will always be one second faster but 16 flat bad.
@@totov7673 that manual transmissions are more engaging is my bias, and take away here. 😁😎
@@jonahseabarkrob6237 Yes big bias is they bring mercedes auto thinking its a fair race but lets be real mercedes is the worst germain manufactor there not great for performance or drag race. Even a local germain would telk you this.
Why didn’t you get a DSG? It’s well known it’s faster off the line than the stick. Or the Mustang in a stick.
Automatic Mustangs only get 3:55 gears and only if it has the track pak
Standard equipment is a measley 3:23.
Stick track pak gets the 3:73 gears and allows the 5.0 to rev where it needs to be 💥
Great shot, on launch, in slow motion, showing the rear suspension load up
As someone who owns a 24 Mustang GT premium 6MT IF you can only afford/have 1 vehicle Golf R is easily the better choice. However if you have a daily and a second "fun/weekend" car Mustang with a Manual in my opinion is by far the better option....and yes the 10speed is faster but the 6MT again in my opinion is "funner" to drive.
Conventional auto vs DSG should be the comparison, or both manual. Dual clutch and AWD in Golf is something else off the line. DSG variant also gets more torque stock.
Stop complaining people. It's 46k vs 46k car comparison
Which have nothing to do with their performance capabilities.
I love the mustang gt I really do, I now have a golf R manual and will go back to a mustang at a later time bought it because it was the last of the manuals. The golf R traction control is very restrictive and combine that with slow shift I understand why they did a 16sec 1/4 mile. There is no way with the traction control off and in special mode that you would have done a 16s 1/4 even at that elevation hell a regular civic can do that. You need to launch that thing at 5k and shift it like you mean it. They will do low 13 high 12 the golf R engine is underrated will put about 30x hp at the wheels while the mustang will be around 390 just an fyi. Also the mustang traction control is way way less restrictive will still spin the tires under full acceleration.
Mustangs with the track options are good for drag racing and taking corners.
That golf R runs in the 12's with DSG. But more power is more power
Golf has 320 hp and manual gearbox and mustang has 480 hp and autobox. Golf is fast for what it is.