Can't go wrong with either of these choices, but that said...I traded in my 2016 GTI SE for a 2021 Mazda 3 turbo premium hatch. Other than reduced visibility in the rear, (rearview mirror is near useless) no regrets...Mazda made a great little car.
I love them both too. If Mazda had a DSG is would be ridiculous. Still lean more on the VW side since I have one but Mazda is quality no doubt about it
Really depends what you want. It’s like comparing an Audi A3 to the GTI. The GTI is much more performance oriented. Stiffer suspension, sway bars, bigger brakes, quicker steering rack, LSD, and stickier tires. While the A3 and Mazda are quieter, more comfortable, and more luxurious inside. The Mazda 3 Turbo is not a performance variant.
I'm German and I'll take the Mazda over the GTI anyday. The looks, the quality, the RELIABILITY.. There is no GTI that can match those criteria. I've got an 2014 mazda 3 with over 200000miles and never ever had a single thing failing. It runs like on day one.
@@Kevin-rf9sx I don't know about Europe, but in the past few years Mazda's entire lineup has either been tops or near the top for reliability among all car makers, so I agreed...and actually voted with my money by swapping a GTI for a Mazda 3 turbo hatch. My GTI wasnt exactly a reliability nightmare to own, but it was probably second most troublesome car that I've ever owned. Having said that, it only left me stranded once when the factory battery decided to suddenly discharge overnight when it was fine the day before, and then a laundry list of other minor annoyances either related to poor design or factory quality control.
Ive been loving my polymetal grey turbo hatch. I live in a city so im just zoom zoomin' light to light. The low end torque feels so nice for a 4cyl turbo.
I’m glad you demonstrated the difference between regular and premium in the GTI. My 2019 GLI has the exact same transmission and engine. Whenever people tell me premium doesn’t make a difference in my GLI, I show them this video. Plus I notice a difference in mpg too.
Wooaahh! Absolutely stoaked to see the results but the process was amazing. Thank you for taking my feedback on the last mazda3 video. I will be honest I was upset to see it get dusted as a mazda3 owner. Also just super cool that you guys are active in the comments and take them seriously 😁 so thanks again looking forward to more videos!
@@RhinoDog69 for 50k+ i SHOULD hope they get theirs cars faster since its DOUBLE the price of both cars. oh also for that price point there are cars even faster than the Cupra LOL, why they aren't popular at all
Bought my 2022 Maz 3 Turbo PremPlus in Feb 22. My 6th Maz by the way, and I LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT. Way fast and powerful, beautiful inside and out. Fantastic bang for the buck. And I have not been in for a "Repair" of anything for about 25 years. Fan...you could say so. My father was a master engineer and taught all about what to look for. This is it!
I've had two Volkswagens and one Mazda. I will say as far as reliability and ease of repair and cost of repair, it's Mazda all day long. Every time I turn around one of the Volkswagens needs something done and instead of 500 bucks it's a grand or more.
I found it faster to put the gti in sport with launch control off. Launch control pulls power from the engine to keep traction making the car slower in the 60ft. It is easier to make a few practice passes and perfect launching with traction control off.
@@havoc7154 you can't cancel a car that was never announced to begin with; the current one was just discontinued and there won't be more iterations. And Mazda doesn't have a V6, it's an I6.
Happy owner of a 21' Turbo 3 since new. Beautiful inside and out, classy, fast; the AWD kills in the snow, no issues whatsoever so far and if I keep my foot down, I can average in the low to mid 6s on highway driving. Amazing beautiful car.
@@jaspreetsidhu5708 Fact for most of you don't know anything about the GTI's EA888 engine. This is actually a racing engine built by Audi and used in Audi S4,A3,A4. The engine is rated to handle 500HP but extremely DETUNED. By simply going to stage2 tuned with a downpipe replacement and reprogramming the ECU, my car is dyno'd at 350HP. Basically unlocking what the engine was intended to do. Zero electrical or mechanical problems, 78k miles later. I beat Mazda 3s all day long with ease, but you can pretend you know what you're talking about.
You’re a real fan boy, so you telling me you got a tuned gti that beats mazda3’s all day and you feel special 🤣 and you cant compare that GTI interior or exterior to the mazda 3 its another level unless you’ve been living under a rock
Owning a Mk7 GTI I know the the Golf wouldn’t even have a chance with a Camry from ditch lol. But when comes to a roll even a Stage 1 chip flash will leave bus gaps on many cars.
I did lots of research on gti and decided on a mazdaspeed 3, not only that I paid less, I also got more HP. If I ever get a golf it will definitely be the R. Nice video
Thank you for making this video. Finally. Been waiting to see this. Some TH-camr Sam made a video with the Mz3 Turbo vs the GTI & his results were horrendous imo. Bad reaction time etc. Seriously, great job. Both awesome cars. Love those blues, too.
Fact for most of you don't know anything about the GTI's EA888 engine. This is actually a racing engine built by Audi and used in Audi S4,A3,A4. The engine is rated to handle 500HP but extremely DETUNED. By simply going to stage2 tuned with a downpipe replacement and reprogramming the ECU, my car is dyno'd at 350HP. Basically unlocking what the engine was intended to do. Zero electrical or mechanical problems, 78k miles later.
Garbage VW engines. 15 years and the engines still have carbon issues along with the DSG transmission shitting itself prematurely. And VW knowingly refuses to resolve the issue. The Mazda will go to 200k with little worry.
The 6 speed auto in the Mazda really pulls it back, specially when compared to the GTi's DSG, I'd imagine the Mazda would be much quicker with a more modern transmission... and I have the Mazda3 Turbo, it really doesn't bother for everyday use, it is just the fact of knowing that the engine capable of so much better
Honestly a good ecu tune, like from dr.tuned, or Versa tune. Will change the gearing, unlock power thats hidden, and make this a totally different beast. Mazda gave this a very safe and economic tune out of the factory even though the power train can definitely take more.
Very different results than those from Sam CarLegion. I'm sure there are many variables at play, but to me it really shows the importance of being able to launch a certain car well.
@@ianmcalpine 93 octane vs 91 doesnt make the difference from that video. Running on 91 my mazda beats a new gti (my coworker got one) off the line easily due to AWD. Rolling race is a different story but in Sam CarLegion's video the GTI won off the line which makes 0 sense.
@@nicolaskennedy4285 probably had the insanely overreacting traction control programmed off. My MK7 GLI (same powertrain as the GTI) can barely spin the tires in first gear with 330WHP since traction control interferes so heavily. Even in second gear it can get super invasive.
The ram vs the Mazda though, big flex for Mazda 💪 lol I have a question actually that I hope someone can answer for me :) What determines the top speed of a car?
Top speed can be dictated by a couple different factors. In most cases it is the point where the car's horsepower is fully consumed by drag (air resistance) and other types of friction. The faster you go the more drag. So a car that is more aerodynamic can typically go faster for a given amount of horsepower. In other situations it will be due to electronic speed limiters that manufacturers put in to keep cars from going too fast. It can also be due to gearing. And finally in some cases it will hit redline in top gear and simply can't go any faster without better gearing.
I love that blue on the GTi but everything else the Mazda hands down especially since it will last so many years longer -sooo much more reliable as the VM will fall part years before been there some that with BMW’s and Audi’s and VMW’s I’d never go back to those German cars unless I get a record deal and can throw money away like nothing on their outrageous not worth it repairs then maybe, I just might give those brands a shot again. lol 😂
U know you're doing something wright when the views are higher than the subscribers. I know u can put lower octane in these cars, but u should never do it. Buy the base model if you want good gas mileage on cheap octane. Loved the video.
There's nothing wrong with using 87 (at least in the GTI). The car is tuned to handle both octanes (unlike many years prior), however, if you want advertised mileage and performance, 91 is the way to go. It may also improve longevity. I however, always stick to 91 in my GTI :)
Now owning a Mazda 2 '17 or Demio in some parts in the world. My next car is a Mazda 3 SkyActiv X engine. (Turbo not available in Europe) hatchback, manual in Soul red crystal. What a beauty that is.
It's because you shouldn't drive Auto in a Mazda at all! Jinba Ittai forever. It's a real shame Mazda gives you this Engine only with Auto.. but you Americans generally don't appreciate manuals.. so they have to.
Why was Launch Control not used in the GTI? It shaves about 0.3s-0.4s off the quarter mile. I have ran a flat 14s @ 100+ mph on a GTI on a hot day, stock. The Mazda is not at that mark and it's slower the GTI in virtually every discipline. The roll race GTI should have moved away confidently. th-cam.com/video/e55_fo3MCcs/w-d-xo.html
I made the switch from being a GTI guy to picking up the Mazda and I’ve loved it. Aftermarket support is definitely a massive letdown though coming from the VW world.
Very impressed by that Mazda. Wow. It’s got a better interior and more reliable. While beating the GTI from a dig. Crazy. I love the GTI for the DSG and more boxy shape. But the Mazda just better on everything else.
This guy doesn't know what neck and neck means....but I do appreciate the short and sweet video as opposed to the 20min camera time on the host all other channels have.
I noticed on mine that it needs at least 50 miles when you go from 91 octane to 93 octane for the computer to adjust. Then you really feel the difference.
I had a 1st gen Speed3, and would probably own a current gen, if Mazda sold one. That being said, this 3 is very impressive in AWD guise, without MazdaSpeed go-fast bits glued to the sheet metal screaming "pull me over". It makes me want a Speed variant even more. Instead, Hyundai has taken the torch for wacky, quirky little fast cars that make me smile, and Mazda has all but disappeared.
Hyundai has been making some nice quirky vehicles lately, quick and what not, any of the N cars. But in all reality their junk. The interiors are nothing, but plastic and they ride like garbage. But hey their quick and fun though.
@@ZACH_95_ I guess I can't speak for the most current batch, but my '13 Elantra GT has 240K problem free miles,, with only a battery, tires, and brake pads on the log. The beige and black 'leather' interior is doing great, no cracks or holes, even with the glass pano roof being open while I drive. The clutch is probably due for a change though. My girl bought an Accent at the exact same time, and it's had the same history, but only 150K.
@@ACCELER8TV Fact for most of you don't know anything about the GTI's EA888 engine. This is actually a racing engine built by Audi and used in Audi S4,A3,A4. The engine is rated to handle 500HP but extremely DETUNED. By simply going to stage2 tuned with a downpipe replacement and reprogramming the ECU, my car is dyno'd at 350HP. Basically unlocking what the engine was intended to do. Zero electrical or mechanical problems, 78k miles later.
New gen of GTI would walk the Mazda, for sure. It's not a bad car at all that Mazda3, but still feels like a missed opportunity to me. Boring automatic, boring engine note, so-so driving dynamics-"hot" hatch is a bit aspirational. I'd call it a "pleasantly warm" hatch.
@@thrillhousecycling7260 I've had my eye on it as well. Hoping they fix the Boxer engine issues in the new redesign. Lots of great things coming down the line from lots of manufacturers... Im looking forward to Mazda's inline 6 coming out around the same time. VW just has to many reliability issues.
That’s because it is not a “hot” hatch. Mazda isn’t calling it one. It’s all of the reviewers who are calling it that because they don’t understand this vehicle. It’s just a more powerful 3 to help it compete better with the A3, 230i, and A220. “Hot” variants aren’t just about power they are about driving dynamics and this has the same dynamics as the base 23k car.
So.. does the new Mazda not have a "Sport Mode" anymore? I've got a 2017 version 2.5litre and it has sport Mode. If it does why doesn't the video show a race with Mazda's sport mode on?
Its an unfair race, GtI has at least 1.6 tons and the Mazda has 1.5. also giving the mazda an awd, this is not a contens that's winnable. Get a mazda with fwd and then we'll talk.
They are the same price so it is fair--golf rs are almost 45k or about 10k more then a Mazda.Have VW put AWD in a GTI and keep it under 40k--the mazda is a way better value and Audi and VW are the ones having carbon and reliability issues on this particular engine.Also a track is galss flat with rubber on it and even FWD cars have problems with traction.That GTI is great in one condition--sunny days and mild weather--anything else and it loses its performance edge quick over an AWD.
Give me the Mk7.5+. LSD, active dampers make it a no brainer. I drive a lot too so the manual is out of the question and I couldn’t stand the 6-speed in the Mazda.
I don't know. Maybe the ECU in that GTi has learned to take it easy based on the way the your mom drives it. The fact that she's running regular in it leads me to believe she doesn't care about squeezing out every last ounce of performance. This matchup should be much closer than this - both cars test 0-60 in 6 seconds and 14.5 1/4 mile, and we're not talking about trying to launch a Hellcat here, the GTi isn't going to spin it's tires all the way down the track...anfd I'm saying this as someone who would choose the Mazda over this GTi. Not over a Golf R though...but throw another 50hp and a better transmission in and it 'd be a tough choice..
I love the video But to me drag race makes no sense, especially on fwd it is fun to do once or twice, but it is never about the driver. Mostly you can foresee the race results just from the paper (when it's not about tires)
The AWD makes a huge diffrence.I have a 2020 Stinger and out of the box I shame many cars that you would think it could not.If you jump 2 car lengths or so out of the gate--another car would need at least 100 HP or so to catch up.I have my videos on here--I raced 500 plus HP cars last drag and none were able to make up the distance off the line--if you have a RWD car and spin in any way off the line--you will need a ton of HP.I can get hellcats out of the gate and in some cases still ahead at the 1/8--but once it hooks up and 700 HP hits the pavement--all I can do is watch the back end get smaller and smaller.NA american muscle cars like a normal cgallenger 392 just does not have the HP to catch a stinger once it gets 2 or 3 car lengths ahead.Also go look at top speed runs--many german--cars are governed to 155--even many AMG and M cars.Many american muscle cars top out in the 160s also--stingers also have and advantage with a 167 mph top end that is governed--but still faster then many cars.
The Stinger is pretty quick, but pretty much every auto magazine that has tested them found that the RWD model was quicker than the AWD model, both in 0-60 and 1/4 times. Most also said the RWD steering was much better, and that it was more agile and fun to drive. I've considered buying a Stinger GT, but I live in Florida, so have no need for AWD vehicles, and would opt for the less expensive RWD version.
@@chuckd7423 In 2020 KIA did "enhanced shift logic improvements to 2020 AWD models making them just as fast as the fastest RWD models.I ran a 4.2 to 60 and a 12.7 in the 1/4 last time I went to public drag.I have the videos on here that you can check out. I ran those times with no launch control,I live in GA and the AWD helps in thunderstorms we have--like the one I just drove in a few minutes ago.BTW I watched videos and every video I looked at with AWD stingers--2 testers had the car in comfort mode while running laps.I have 100 hours of track time and the stingers AWD--once you go thru the computers becomes a weapon--I can enter turns at several MPH faster then RWD cars and mid turn I can punch it and the computer will bolt the car out of a corner.I also have geomet cross drilled and vented rotors on the car paired with the brembo--and a welded straight pipe exhaust--so i have my car set up for the track without affecting the warranty.My 12.7 was .4 sec faster then a RWD 2019 that was in my stinger club when he ran and my trap speed was 3 mph faster--my 1/8th speed was 2 mph faster.The AWD system is only 140 lbs and they put it in a spot to keep the car balanced.
So if you Google GTI quarter mile and 0-60 it claims to be faster than the Mazda 3 so idk who to believe any more because I’ve seen a lot of races with the Mazda 3 and Mazda 3 does fall far behind from most vehicles in its segment so is the Mazda 3 quick I would say it is especially with the lack of technology it is fairly quick!
It seems like all the excitement over the Mazda 3 Turbo being faster than a GTI off the line is more about power application than anything "magical". It's all about the drivetrain configurations: AWD vs FWD. Most AWD vehicles are going to get off the line better than FWD or some RWD vehicles so prepping the GTI with premium fuel to do another race was kind of futile in my opinion. And at the end, everyone declares the 3 Turbo as this super hot hatch. I'm not taking anything away from the 3 Turbo. It's a great car. But it's the AWD that made it faster, or "better" or however you want to call it. Now if the 3 Turbo had FWD, it would be a different story, and any race between it, and the GTI, would really show who's the hotter hatch. But in this case, it's the AWD of the 3 Turbo that makes it a "faster" performer than the GTI. I'm just saying that maybe more should have been said about Mazda's AWD system and how it puts down the traction better and the benefits of all-wheel traction, etc, and how that was an advantage over the GTI than just thinking, "Oh, I'll put premium gas in the GTI" - like that's going to overcome any drivetrain disadvantage. Just seems a little lame. Sorry, just telling you like it is. Next time, bring a WRX and maybe even a Golf R to run against the 3 Turbo. It'll be more even then and we can see just how "hot" the Mazda is.
Yeah seems like the mazda is more golf R competition with the awd system, and against the golf R it has no chance. Gti did insanely well considering its severly underpowered and fwd.
@@ronaszegi Spanked it? Not hardly. The Mazda 3 Turbo pulled off the line better than the WRX but the WRX kept up with it pretty easily. In fact, at the end of the quarter, the WRX and the Mazda were virtually even. The GTI couldn't make that claim at all for the reasons I gave in my original post. I think you better take off your Mazda 3 Turbo glasses and re-watch that TH video.
Mazda gang!!! Not bad for a car that is not sport oriented and is beating sport oriented cars. Hopefully with the patent of the R logo design, Mazda comes back with a variation of Mazdaspeed on there cars. That would be fun to see destroy the competition.
Oof with the way inflation be I rather pick mazda3 very highway friendly for places like Texas. But in term of family it'll be gti for the spaces. Can you have the mazda 3 compete with the mini cooper s
@@i0001w Mazda 2.5T is basically untuneable. I was strongly considering one to replace my tuned 2016 GTI, after research it became clear there's not much that can be done on modern Mazdas.
Yup, my stage 2 GTI is making 310 WHP on dynojet, 360 wheel torque. Throw a golf R turbo on and make 350/360 at the wheel. Hybrid turbo and HPFP/LPFP and get near 500 wheel on the stock motor if you keep the torque down. EA888 is an insane motor
@@jasonw8124 my tune for the new mazda3 turbo will be delivered within this month or next though, I can get like 40 more horses and 50 more lbs ft of torque on that tune on 93 octane.
Drop us a comment below for the TH-cam Algorithm! Mazda 3 Turbo or GTI? Which one would you pick?
Mazda 3 Turbo For The WIN.
3 Turbo every day 🤙🏼
Mazda 3! Interiors so nice
If Mazda had the Mazda3 Turbo in 2019, I would’ve gotten that. But they didn’t, so I’m currently watching my GTI get dusted by a Mazda3 Turbo.
I have a Mazda 3 Turbo 😊
With the performance of the Mazda, on top of it being less money, and their focus on luxury feel/interior... I think I'd have to go with the M3
Can't go wrong with either of these choices, but that said...I traded in my 2016 GTI SE for a 2021 Mazda 3 turbo premium hatch. Other than reduced visibility in the rear, (rearview mirror is near useless) no regrets...Mazda made a great little car.
I love them both too. If Mazda had a DSG is would be ridiculous. Still lean more on the VW side since I have one but Mazda is quality no doubt about it
Really depends what you want. It’s like comparing an Audi A3 to the GTI. The GTI is much more performance oriented. Stiffer suspension, sway bars, bigger brakes, quicker steering rack, LSD, and stickier tires. While the A3 and Mazda are quieter, more comfortable, and more luxurious inside. The Mazda 3 Turbo is not a performance variant.
I'm German and I'll take the Mazda over the GTI anyday. The looks, the quality, the RELIABILITY.. There is no GTI that can match those criteria.
I've got an 2014 mazda 3 with over 200000miles and never ever had a single thing failing. It runs like on day one.
@@Kevin-rf9sx I don't know about Europe, but in the past few years Mazda's entire lineup has either been tops or near the top for reliability among all car makers, so I agreed...and actually voted with my money by swapping a GTI for a Mazda 3 turbo hatch. My GTI wasnt exactly a reliability nightmare to own, but it was probably second most troublesome car that I've ever owned. Having said that, it only left me stranded once when the factory battery decided to suddenly discharge overnight when it was fine the day before, and then a laundry list of other minor annoyances either related to poor design or factory quality control.
Bought this exact car (Mazda3 Sport Gt Turbo, all black) a couple weeks ago. I love it.
Enjoy
Ive been loving my polymetal grey turbo hatch. I live in a city so im just zoom zoomin' light to light. The low end torque feels so nice for a 4cyl turbo.
No tune or aftermarket parts are out there for it right?
@@v8_sami corksport has a few parts and jb4 has a few tunes. They are just being released though. I'll keep mine stock for a bit.
Enjoy it bro
A very well done drag race. I appreciate the disclosure of what fuels you ran. I love the attention to detail. Good on Ian’s Mazda😂 it rips
Haha thank you man!
"My mom's GTi"
Pretty cool mom you got
*puts regular gas in
It’s a golf though pretty basic too
I’m glad you demonstrated the difference between regular and premium in the GTI. My 2019 GLI has the exact same transmission and engine. Whenever people tell me premium doesn’t make a difference in my GLI, I show them this video. Plus I notice a difference in mpg too.
Wooaahh! Absolutely stoaked to see the results but the process was amazing. Thank you for taking my feedback on the last mazda3 video. I will be honest I was upset to see it get dusted as a mazda3 owner. Also just super cool that you guys are active in the comments and take them seriously 😁 so thanks again looking forward to more videos!
Of course! We do the best we can!
Atleast uk your mazda will last lol years to go
Love Mazda 🥰🔥
That Mazda 3 is outstanding, also has a very nice clean look to it🙂
I used to love the GTI but that new Mazda 3 is everything.
The Seat Leon Cupra or the Cupra Leon are waaaaaaay faster than both of these mommy cars.
@@RhinoDog69 it’s also uglier
@@Yoomaro its better looking than both
@@RhinoDog69no one wants to own a crappy seat.
@@RhinoDog69 for 50k+ i SHOULD hope they get theirs cars faster since its DOUBLE the price of both cars. oh also for that price point there are cars even faster than the Cupra LOL, why they aren't popular at all
Bought my 2022 Maz 3 Turbo PremPlus in Feb 22. My 6th Maz by the way, and I LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT. Way fast and powerful, beautiful inside and out. Fantastic bang for the buck. And I have not been in for a "Repair" of anything for about 25 years. Fan...you could say so. My father was a master engineer and taught all about what to look for. This is it!
as a Mazda 3 Turbo AWD 2021 driver, it eats pavement. its a beast i love it lol and so classy inside... unique look
We should form a club. Mine’s machine grey with red interior.
@@eriknephrongfr8847 mine is the polymetal/red interior. so sexy
@@davidtremblay7376 True beauty!
@@davidtremblay7376 same here haha love it
@@crazycodkilla99 they are so underrated its insane. peace out brotha!
After owning a mk6 gti, while reliable, I'd take this new mazada.
Such a difference between regular and premium fuel!! Thanks for this vid!
Accidentally put diesel in my 2022 CX-30 ..... It hauls ass!!!!!
@@justdone1251isn’t that really bad or no?
I've had two Volkswagens and one Mazda. I will say as far as reliability and ease of repair and cost of repair, it's Mazda all day long. Every time I turn around one of the Volkswagens needs something done and instead of 500 bucks it's a grand or more.
I have a 2023 Mazda 3, glad to see it shine here :D
I found it faster to put the gti in sport with launch control off. Launch control pulls power from the engine to keep traction making the car slower in the 60ft. It is easier to make a few practice passes and perfect launching with traction control off.
As Dom Toretto once said “It don’t matter what’s under the hood, it only matters who is behind the wheel”
;)
There's nothing stronger than family.
@@ACCELER8TV "It don't matter if you win by an inch or a mile, winning is winning ..." - Dom Toretto
@@darekm6859 Try reaction time.
@@darekm6859 Ok, Mr. Roboto. LMFAO
@@ACCELER8TV Smoke em'
I have the mazda 3 awd turbo and love it.
definately the better looking car
We should form a club. Seriously. I take mine on back roads for no reason almost daily.
Finally for once I have a car that's on the winning side!!!
So for almost every day driving the Mazda 3 is better and probably more reliable too.
Imagine if the mazda had 8-speed.
Exactly!!! That’s what I say about my lol but the 6 speed is tuned great for this car.
Mazda's coming out with a DCT on the Cx60. Doubt they'd put it in the three, but it'd be hilarious
@@samuelrodriguez6684 the new Mazda 6 RWD V6 was going to have 8 speed but They canceled Mazda 6. no more new Mazda 6s :(
@@havoc7154 you can't cancel a car that was never announced to begin with; the current one was just discontinued and there won't be more iterations. And Mazda doesn't have a V6, it's an I6.
@@samuelrodriguez6684 they did design V6 engines that fit mazda 6 and the other SUV
I wish we had these Mazda Turbos in the UK:(
Same here, in The Netherlands. And with a manual transmission. What a beautiful car.
Hands up to my fellow Mazda 3 owners out there
Happy owner of a 21' Turbo 3 since new. Beautiful inside and out, classy, fast; the AWD kills in the snow, no issues whatsoever so far and if I keep my foot down, I can average in the low to mid 6s on highway driving. Amazing beautiful car.
Not bad at all for the Mazda 3! Better interior quality and design as well.
@@layne4376 I think so and I looked at both when buying my car.
@@jaspreetsidhu5708 Fact for most of you don't know anything about the GTI's EA888 engine. This is actually a racing engine built by Audi and used in Audi S4,A3,A4. The engine is rated to handle 500HP but extremely DETUNED.
By simply going to stage2 tuned with a downpipe replacement and reprogramming the ECU, my car is dyno'd at 350HP. Basically unlocking what the engine was intended to do. Zero electrical or mechanical problems, 78k miles later.
I beat Mazda 3s all day long with ease, but you can pretend you know what you're talking about.
@@layne4376 yessss way. I agree with you.
@@sporopeza and VW unreliability
You’re a real fan boy, so you telling me you got a tuned gti that beats mazda3’s all day and you feel special 🤣 and you cant compare that GTI interior or exterior to the mazda 3 its another level unless you’ve been living under a rock
Owning a Mk7 GTI I know the the Golf wouldn’t even have a chance with a Camry from ditch lol. But when comes to a roll even a Stage 1 chip flash will leave bus gaps on many cars.
I bought a mazda3 turbo. It is a super vihicle 👍
I did lots of research on gti and decided on a mazdaspeed 3, not only that I paid less, I also got more HP. If I ever get a golf it will definitely be the R. Nice video
I have to agree with other comments here, ur Mom sounds like a very cool Mom ! Driving a VW GTI in the cornflower blue no less !
Maybe I should meet up with her. Probably the same age and I drive a Golf R :) Match made in VW heaven lol
Thank you for making this video. Finally. Been waiting to see this. Some TH-camr Sam made a video with the Mz3 Turbo vs the GTI & his results were horrendous imo. Bad reaction time etc.
Seriously, great job. Both awesome cars. Love those blues, too.
Thanks Tyler!
This really shows the difference between normal and premium fuel in normal cars. Fun to see
America’s premium gas is 95 right?
Your mean in Boosted car's.. NA's not so much!
@@martin4911 91-93 normally depending on where your at. Occasionally in few area, you may approach 94
I just discovered this channel and it has a lot of potential. it is elegant and notices details such as air conditioning and fuels! I'm lovin 'it
Thank you very much!
I know gti has modding potential but what does this 2021 Mazda offer ?
I used to run that strip with my 1981 El Camino with a built 355 and a 4spd Muncie, oh the nights!
You’ve just earned a subscriber! I have the same mazda 3 awd turbo!
We should form a club. Mine’s is machine grey with red interior.
@@eriknephrongfr8847 Those are slick!
Fact for most of you don't know anything about the GTI's EA888 engine. This is actually a racing engine built by Audi and used in Audi S4,A3,A4. The engine is rated to handle 500HP but extremely DETUNED.
By simply going to stage2 tuned with a downpipe replacement and reprogramming the ECU, my car is dyno'd at 350HP. Basically unlocking what the engine was intended to do. Zero electrical or mechanical problems, 78k miles later.
I believe it I have a 7.5 golf R I'm pushing close 430hp 460tq
The S4 uses a 3.0T engine.
@@DMCarReviews lol 🤣🤣,,Dude lied ,he said the audi s4 uses the EA888,,He doesn't know anything about the engine lol.
Maybe he meant S3 or TTS
Garbage VW engines. 15 years and the engines still have carbon issues along with the DSG transmission shitting itself prematurely. And VW knowingly refuses to resolve the issue. The Mazda will go to 200k with little worry.
The 6 speed auto in the Mazda really pulls it back, specially when compared to the GTi's DSG, I'd imagine the Mazda would be much quicker with a more modern transmission... and I have the Mazda3 Turbo, it really doesn't bother for everyday use, it is just the fact of knowing that the engine capable of so much better
Honestly a good ecu tune, like from dr.tuned, or Versa tune. Will change the gearing, unlock power thats hidden, and make this a totally different beast. Mazda gave this a very safe and economic tune out of the factory even though the power train can definitely take more.
Very different results than those from Sam CarLegion. I'm sure there are many variables at play, but to me it really shows the importance of being able to launch a certain car well.
Yes, Sam CarLegion did not have 93 octane in the Mazda tho. Premium fuel makes a big difference on both of the cars.
@@ianmcalpine 93 octane vs 91 doesnt make the difference from that video. Running on 91 my mazda beats a new gti (my coworker got one) off the line easily due to AWD. Rolling race is a different story but in Sam CarLegion's video the GTI won off the line which makes 0 sense.
@@nicolaskennedy4285 probably had the insanely overreacting traction control programmed off. My MK7 GLI (same powertrain as the GTI) can barely spin the tires in first gear with 330WHP since traction control interferes so heavily. Even in second gear it can get super invasive.
Sam has a lot of fishy races! He's very bias as well!
So true those are some fishy a** results
The ram vs the Mazda though, big flex for Mazda 💪 lol
I have a question actually that I hope someone can answer for me :)
What determines the top speed of a car?
Top speed can be dictated by a couple different factors. In most cases it is the point where the car's horsepower is fully consumed by drag (air resistance) and other types of friction. The faster you go the more drag. So a car that is more aerodynamic can typically go faster for a given amount of horsepower.
In other situations it will be due to electronic speed limiters that manufacturers put in to keep cars from going too fast.
It can also be due to gearing.
And finally in some cases it will hit redline in top gear and simply can't go any faster without better gearing.
Bruh Fr when he pulled in front I was like 😬😬🤫🤫
@@ChrisMah I appreciate the explanation. My knowledge on cars is 💩 so I appreciate you telling me that :33
Truck took off almost 1sec early too.
Awesome video! Thanks!
I love that blue on the GTi but everything else the Mazda hands down especially since it will last so many years longer -sooo much more reliable as the VM will fall part years before been there some that with BMW’s and Audi’s and VMW’s I’d never go back to those German cars unless I get a record deal and can throw money away like nothing on their outrageous not worth it repairs then maybe, I just might give those brands a shot again. lol 😂
Mazda3 Turbo vs Hyundai Veloster N!! Please!! Don't know which one to get
Think reliability which equals resale value ....
The 3turbo
U know you're doing something wright when the views are higher than the subscribers. I know u can put lower octane in these cars, but u should never do it. Buy the base model if you want good gas mileage on cheap octane. Loved the video.
There's nothing wrong with using 87 (at least in the GTI). The car is tuned to handle both octanes (unlike many years prior), however, if you want advertised mileage and performance, 91 is the way to go. It may also improve longevity. I however, always stick to 91 in my GTI :)
Mazdaspeed 3 needs to come back!
I honestly think if the mazda3 didn’t have the extra weight of the AWD and was a pure FWD it’d walk that VW all day
Now owning a Mazda 2 '17 or Demio in some parts in the world. My next car is a Mazda 3 SkyActiv X engine. (Turbo not available in Europe) hatchback, manual in Soul red crystal. What a beauty that is.
The Mazda would be a rocket if it didn’t have that two decade yr old 6S Auto.
It's because you shouldn't drive Auto in a Mazda at all!
Jinba Ittai forever.
It's a real shame Mazda gives you this Engine only with Auto.. but you Americans generally don't appreciate manuals.. so they have to.
yeah, Mazda needs a DCT or a faster 8 speed transmission. But at least that Mazda transmission is reliable.
@@silimarina. It needs the manual transmission and nothing else
I currently own a 2016 VW Golf TSI. Running 87 Octane. Should I not be using this fuel?
Definitely not
Why was Launch Control not used in the GTI? It shaves about 0.3s-0.4s off the quarter mile. I have ran a flat 14s @ 100+ mph on a GTI on a hot day, stock. The Mazda is not at that mark and it's slower the GTI in virtually every discipline. The roll race GTI should have moved away confidently.
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There are videos of Mazda 3 Turbo doing 0-60 in 5.8s, so no the GTI is not faster.
Man Mazda design is really nice
Glad to see this happening at St Thomas :) Video editing is off the hook 👌
Thanks so much!
Wait like St.thomas Ontario?
@@im.weasel Correct.
@@Reptil33 I'm from there. That's cool. 👍
Nice Drag Race Guys!! I love Mazda 3
Thanks Oswaldo!
I made the switch from being a GTI guy to picking up the Mazda and I’ve loved it. Aftermarket support is definitely a massive letdown though coming from the VW world.
There is parts you can add now.
Along with a stage 2 tune to get another 90+hrps
142 thumbs down that's 142 persons with gti's
I've said on other channels, Mazda isn't playing!
Very impressed by that Mazda. Wow. It’s got a better interior and more reliable. While beating the GTI from a dig. Crazy.
I love the GTI for the DSG and more boxy shape. But the Mazda just better on everything else.
Most people:”I love the Mazda 3 3rd and 4th gen”
Aftermarket:”….”
TELL ME IM WRONG!!!
The Mazdas are great, but the aftermarket support for the GTI is absolutely insane. They’re stupid fast with mods.
This guy doesn't know what neck and neck means....but I do appreciate the short and sweet video as opposed to the 20min camera time on the host all other channels have.
I meant after the gap of the launch was set, there was no net difference after that. Ya hate those long drawn out drag race vids.
i'm confused on the last race why a Mazda 3 Sport vs a truck?
When would they race against each other?
Did you happen to throw the Mazda 2 Turbo into sport mode with premium gas at any point? This is amazing.
Hey Jose, The Mazda 3 Turbo was in sport mode for every race except the first race and it was running 93 premium octane.
I noticed on mine that it needs at least 50 miles when you go from 91 octane to 93 octane for the computer to adjust. Then you really feel the difference.
I had a 1st gen Speed3, and would probably own a current gen, if Mazda sold one. That being said, this 3 is very impressive in AWD guise, without MazdaSpeed go-fast bits glued to the sheet metal screaming "pull me over". It makes me want a Speed variant even more. Instead, Hyundai has taken the torch for wacky, quirky little fast cars that make me smile, and Mazda has all but disappeared.
Hyundai has been making some nice quirky vehicles lately, quick and what not, any of the N cars. But in all reality their junk. The interiors are nothing, but plastic and they ride like garbage. But hey their quick and fun though.
@@ZACH_95_ I guess I can't speak for the most current batch, but my '13 Elantra GT has 240K problem free miles,, with only a battery, tires, and brake pads on the log. The beige and black 'leather' interior is doing great, no cracks or holes, even with the glass pano roof being open while I drive. The clutch is probably due for a change though. My girl bought an Accent at the exact same time, and it's had the same history, but only 150K.
it a shame that we can´t get these Mazda in Germany. We only have the 186PS version with no turbo :(
More videos like this please. Thanks!
More coming for sure! Glad you like them, thanks Luis!
@@ACCELER8TV Fact for most of you don't know anything about the GTI's EA888 engine. This is actually a racing engine built by Audi and used in Audi S4,A3,A4. The engine is rated to handle 500HP but extremely DETUNED.
By simply going to stage2 tuned with a downpipe replacement and reprogramming the ECU, my car is dyno'd at 350HP. Basically unlocking what the engine was intended to do. Zero electrical or mechanical problems, 78k miles later.
@@sporopeza Haha sure.. And still the GTI is very unreliable.
Volks GTI and GLI on the roll are something.
New gen of GTI would walk the Mazda, for sure. It's not a bad car at all that Mazda3, but still feels like a missed opportunity to me. Boring automatic, boring engine note, so-so driving dynamics-"hot" hatch is a bit aspirational. I'd call it a "pleasantly warm" hatch.
GTI will break down long before the Mazda
@@eucmike No question there. I wouldn’t go for either of them, personally. Be interesting to see how the new WRX stacks up.
@@thrillhousecycling7260 I've had my eye on it as well. Hoping they fix the Boxer engine issues in the new redesign. Lots of great things coming down the line from lots of manufacturers... Im looking forward to Mazda's inline 6 coming out around the same time. VW just has to many reliability issues.
No worries, Mazda's R trim is coming to a dealership near you soon.
That’s because it is not a “hot” hatch. Mazda isn’t calling it one. It’s all of the reviewers who are calling it that because they don’t understand this vehicle. It’s just a more powerful 3 to help it compete better with the A3, 230i, and A220. “Hot” variants aren’t just about power they are about driving dynamics and this has the same dynamics as the base 23k car.
Did you tell your mom that you took her car to the track😁
The black Mazda3 is so good looking
So.. does the new Mazda not have a "Sport Mode" anymore? I've got a 2017 version 2.5litre and it has sport Mode. If it does why doesn't the video show a race with Mazda's sport mode on?
Sport mode was turned on for every race except the first one.
What was the 1/4 mile time? Probable like. 14 something?
Id say close to that yes
Me my mazda 100th 5.6 sec
o-60 and 14.02 1/4 mile
Live canada Montréal
Its an unfair race, GtI has at least 1.6 tons and the Mazda has 1.5. also giving the mazda an awd, this is not a contens that's winnable. Get a mazda with fwd and then we'll talk.
They are the same price so it is fair--golf rs are almost 45k or about 10k more then a Mazda.Have VW put AWD in a GTI and keep it under 40k--the mazda is a way better value and Audi and VW are the ones having carbon and reliability issues on this particular engine.Also a track is galss flat with rubber on it and even FWD cars have problems with traction.That GTI is great in one condition--sunny days and mild weather--anything else and it loses its performance edge quick over an AWD.
Give me the Mk7.5+.
LSD, active dampers make it a no brainer.
I drive a lot too so the manual is out of the question and I couldn’t stand the 6-speed in the Mazda.
Turbo model is auto only, and it clapped the gti. Golfs are shit
big channel energy lol
And that Mazda looks so amazing, I'm in love 😍.
The Mazda is so sexy
Mazda3 vs Wrx. 🔥 next challenge
What is the reasoning putting regular fuel in GTI and not Mazda 3.
Well that mazda3 does have an extra 70lbs more of torque and AWD so having more power off the line was kinda expected
I don't know. Maybe the ECU in that GTi has learned to take it easy based on the way the your mom drives it. The fact that she's running regular in it leads me to believe she doesn't care about squeezing out every last ounce of performance. This matchup should be much closer than this - both cars test 0-60 in 6 seconds and 14.5 1/4 mile, and we're not talking about trying to launch a Hellcat here, the GTi isn't going to spin it's tires all the way down the track...anfd I'm saying this as someone who would choose the Mazda over this GTi. Not over a Golf R though...but throw another 50hp and a better transmission in and it 'd be a tough choice..
Agree
what's the song that plays during the roll races?
Gti: dude I almost had you, Mazda 3: Bro you never had me, you never had your car
I love the video
But to me drag race makes no sense, especially on fwd
it is fun to do once or twice, but it is never about the driver.
Mostly you can foresee the race results just from the paper (when it's not about tires)
Lets go man, lets go.
The AWD makes a huge diffrence.I have a 2020 Stinger and out of the box I shame many cars that you would think it could not.If you jump 2 car lengths or so out of the gate--another car would need at least 100 HP or so to catch up.I have my videos on here--I raced 500 plus HP cars last drag and none were able to make up the distance off the line--if you have a RWD car and spin in any way off the line--you will need a ton of HP.I can get hellcats out of the gate and in some cases still ahead at the 1/8--but once it hooks up and 700 HP hits the pavement--all I can do is watch the back end get smaller and smaller.NA american muscle cars like a normal cgallenger 392 just does not have the HP to catch a stinger once it gets 2 or 3 car lengths ahead.Also go look at top speed runs--many german--cars are governed to 155--even many AMG and M cars.Many american muscle cars top out in the 160s also--stingers also have and advantage with a 167 mph top end that is governed--but still faster then many cars.
The Stinger is pretty quick, but pretty much every auto magazine that has tested them found that the RWD model was quicker than the AWD model, both in 0-60 and 1/4 times. Most also said the RWD steering was much better, and that it was more agile and fun to drive. I've considered buying a Stinger GT, but I live in Florida, so have no need for AWD vehicles, and would opt for the less expensive RWD version.
@@chuckd7423 In 2020 KIA did "enhanced shift logic improvements to 2020 AWD models making them just as fast as the fastest RWD models.I ran a 4.2 to 60 and a 12.7 in the 1/4 last time I went to public drag.I have the videos on here that you can check out. I ran those times with no launch control,I live in GA and the AWD helps in thunderstorms we have--like the one I just drove in a few minutes ago.BTW I watched videos and every video I looked at with AWD stingers--2 testers had the car in comfort mode while running laps.I have 100 hours of track time and the stingers AWD--once you go thru the computers becomes a weapon--I can enter turns at several MPH faster then RWD cars and mid turn I can punch it and the computer will bolt the car out of a corner.I also have geomet cross drilled and vented rotors on the car paired with the brembo--and a welded straight pipe exhaust--so i have my car set up for the track without affecting the warranty.My 12.7 was .4 sec faster then a RWD 2019 that was in my stinger club when he ran and my trap speed was 3 mph faster--my 1/8th speed was 2 mph faster.The AWD system is only 140 lbs and they put it in a spot to keep the car balanced.
So if you Google GTI quarter mile and 0-60 it claims to be faster than the Mazda 3 so idk who to believe any more because I’ve seen a lot of races with the Mazda 3 and Mazda 3 does fall far behind from most vehicles in its segment so is the Mazda 3 quick I would say it is especially with the lack of technology it is fairly quick!
Depends, the new GTI would definitely smoke the Mazda3 Turbo now.
Wonder if the front air dam on the premium plus would make a difference
What's the point of a drag race from stand still between an awd and a fwd?
It seems like all the excitement over the Mazda 3 Turbo being faster than a GTI off the line is more about power application than anything "magical". It's all about the drivetrain configurations: AWD vs FWD. Most AWD vehicles are going to get off the line better than FWD or some RWD vehicles so prepping the GTI with premium fuel to do another race was kind of futile in my opinion. And at the end, everyone declares the 3 Turbo as this super hot hatch.
I'm not taking anything away from the 3 Turbo. It's a great car. But it's the AWD that made it faster, or "better" or however you want to call it. Now if the 3 Turbo had FWD, it would be a different story, and any race between it, and the GTI, would really show who's the hotter hatch. But in this case, it's the AWD of the 3 Turbo that makes it a "faster" performer than the GTI.
I'm just saying that maybe more should have been said about Mazda's AWD system and how it puts down the traction better and the benefits of all-wheel traction, etc, and how that was an advantage over the GTI than just thinking, "Oh, I'll put premium gas in the GTI" - like that's going to overcome any drivetrain disadvantage. Just seems a little lame. Sorry, just telling you like it is.
Next time, bring a WRX and maybe even a Golf R to run against the 3 Turbo. It'll be more even then and we can see just how "hot" the Mazda is.
Check out Throttle House, they do such a race between a WRX and Mazda3. Spoiler alert, Mazda spanks it.
Yeah seems like the mazda is more golf R competition with the awd system, and against the golf R it has no chance. Gti did insanely well considering its severly underpowered and fwd.
@@ronaszegi Spanked it? Not hardly. The Mazda 3 Turbo pulled off the line better than the WRX but the WRX kept up with it pretty easily. In fact, at the end of the quarter, the WRX and the Mazda were virtually even. The GTI couldn't make that claim at all for the reasons I gave in my original post.
I think you better take off your Mazda 3 Turbo glasses and re-watch that TH video.
@@jonaskastrickas1218 that i do agree with.
Or just wait for the Mk8 gti to come to north america in a few months
GTI is still way better. Golf R even better
Both cars serve different purposes for sure. Mazda is more luxury, GTI is more playful and sporty.
Looks like the guy in the VWA is just cruising alone with one hand on the wheel.
Gotta love St Thomas Dragway
Mazda gang!!! Not bad for a car that is not sport oriented and is beating sport oriented cars. Hopefully with the patent of the R logo design, Mazda comes back with a variation of Mazdaspeed on there cars. That would be fun to see destroy the competition.
how did the Turbo AWD lost to a non turbo fwd on a rolling race?
They both have turbos, but the Mazda has an old school 6-speed transmission whereas the GTI as a 7 speed DSG (it shifts better).
I just came from another video where the purposely kept making the Golf win and hardly gave the mazda any throttle 😂
Oof with the way inflation be I rather pick mazda3 very highway friendly for places like Texas. But in term of family it'll be gti for the spaces. Can you have the mazda 3 compete with the mini cooper s
That 6spd auto is the weak link in the Mazda. Once they figure that out these will be pretty damn good.
If he thought that 2nd race with premium fuel in both cars was a neck and neck race then he's fucking giraffe
My Stage 2 GTI any day 😁
Hell yeah!
what if you tune the mazda, it will fly
@@i0001w Mazda 2.5T is basically untuneable. I was strongly considering one to replace my tuned 2016 GTI, after research it became clear there's not much that can be done on modern Mazdas.
Yup, my stage 2 GTI is making 310 WHP on dynojet, 360 wheel torque. Throw a golf R turbo on and make 350/360 at the wheel. Hybrid turbo and HPFP/LPFP and get near 500 wheel on the stock motor if you keep the torque down. EA888 is an insane motor
@@jasonw8124 my tune for the new mazda3 turbo will be delivered within this month or next though, I can get like 40 more horses and 50 more lbs ft of torque on that tune on 93 octane.
As far as reliability goes, there is no comparison. Mazda for the win there.
What octane was used for premium?
93 octane
Mazda 2.5 Turbo > GTI > Mazda3 2.5 NA and GTI has manual and Mazda doesn't give you MT Turbo