Gundam Theory: Why were many 90's kits so bad?
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R U N N I N G I N T H E 9 0 ' S
Its a new way of life to me
I have a couple of theories as to why the NG 1/144 Gundam 0083 kits were crap:
1. Budget Allocation: Producers have to allocate the budget of a film or series equally. Unfortunately, while Sunrise and Bandai spared no expense on 0083's excellent animation and music (despite plagiarizing a few Hollywood tracks), the Gunpla department got the short end of the stick. In comparison, Victory Gundam had average animation and music, but it was balanced out by an otherwise excellent Gunpla line.
2. Drive B-Club Sales: The poor quality of the 0083 kits was an elaborate ploy to lure modelers into buying the more expensive B-Club resin upgrade kits which include a collapsible shield for the GP01/Fb and functional shoulder binders for the GP02A. People who still think P-Bandai is the devil have absolutely no idea how financially evil B-Club is.
what happened to B-Club anyway?
Not sure if they're still around, especially with the advent of P-Bandai. Still, you can find plenty of older B-Club kits online.
Ahh, B-club.
I agree with that comment of B-club their 1/144 scale Virgo at its cheapest is $106. Also they have a soft vinyl gorrosaurus from Godzilla that costs $200 why B-club why?
but thats just a theory,a gunpla theory
As a kid I had wondered why my GM [G] Sniper vs Zaku II kit was WAY better than all of the Wing kits I had gotten. This makes total sense.
...remember how we only got one pair of hands on the polycap runner for every kit?
Of course the economy played a huge part in the dip in quality of Gunpla. It's actually the real world reason for why F91 and Victory Gundam's MS designs were so compact. Bandai knew they were going to make Gunpla for the movie and series, but by making them small in the story, they could make the kits smaller too. That's also why they started standardizing join systems. the 1/144 Victory Gundam models all share a basic poly-cap like frame system. G Gundam, Wing, X and even some of the 08th MS Team kits share the same poly-caps as well. This continued to affect story lines as well. All the remarks about the Gundams being nearly identical in construction throughout the first half of Gundam Wing was to help easy the pain of those old 1/144 scale kits being the same basic build over and over and over. Less variation in construction made engineering those kits a lot easier, faster, and cheaper.
Indeed there was, not to mention how in G there were many utterly ridiculous suits never meant to be kits. X and Turn A also went with this approach; a limited selection of models compared to what was seen on the show, but the ones they did do were varied.
"We live in the age of P bandai now" i feel really sad when he says that 😔
Years after this comment I'm sad some interesting suits this 2020 that released became pbandai
@@redactedz6146 At least the US now has a PBandai site so you don’t have to deal with scalpers.
I think you hit the nail on the head. Whilst I was studying for my minor in Japanese, I learned about modern Japanese History and Culture. In it, we also talked about the Japanese’s 90’s recession and how A LOT of Japanese citizens would turn away from buying name brand items to buying products that were much cheaper so they could save up.
It’s no wonder Bandai tossed their hat into the shitty river.
*listens to background music.
*proceeds to drift with a family van.
We need a new hg 1/144 Heavyarms!
Agreed! It never even got a 1/100 HG along with the Sandrock. You'd think we'd get all 5 for the full team.
Jackson Powley And HGAW Gundam Leopard, Virsago Chest Break, and Daughtress.
yeah the Heisei series(G, W, X) and Turn A kits need to be renewed
We finally got a new Wing Kit.
I don't know I should be happy with that because it's a Leo. But RG Talgeese looks promising!
What we need is a 1/100 MG Heavyarms and Sandrock. They already have the 1/144 but they don't have the 1/100 for some reason.
Then came the 1/144 NG SEED line. *A HUGE step down from the 1/144 Victory Gundam kits.*
I have a couple of the HG SEED models. Not the worst shit. Not like 90's NG. Detail and utility are still pretty shit. The tightness of the joints is very good though. Many years later and the ones I have are still very stiff, comparable to pretty decent MGs.
HG seed was alright- got the job done
@@KyoPwnsU i think hg aegis was one of the best in that line
It is a company secret that most of their engineering team was lost at sea for years on a company holiday turned bad. The team was finally rescued off the coast of Mogadishu a year before the MG Zaku 1.0 was released.
Hold up, really?
Gunpla history always interests me, something about the kits that were before the 2000's always had an air of mystery for me, because information for them is sparce, and seeing how engineering of kits before I was even born can get seriously interesting. I think it is plausible, but then we have the outlier of the Victory kits, where the 1/144 and 1/100 line. Still some interesting insight, glad we had this conversation!
ExtremeSManpig that's adorable. You don't remember the 90s LOL do you remember 9/11?
I was born in 2001, so yeah I don't remember anything directly from the 90's. I only heard of 9/11 when I was 8 years old.
Having building kits for over 20 years now, I have to say I agree with you. I remember trying to track down the 4 HG 1990 Kits, the easiest being the MK. II, the hardest being the original RX-78-2. I paid a lot for that kit in 1997, as well as the 1/144 ZetaPlus C1. I always wondered why the 1/144 G Gundam and wing Gundam kits were so meh and sticker needy just to look good. By 1997 I had at one point ditched 1/144 altogether probably not picking them up until 2001. The quality of the 1/144 kits from Char's Counter Attack as well as 0080 were awesome. In fact my GM Command is still on my night stand. I have yet to get the HGUC version. The MS08th team also had some great HG kits. I prefer the original Ez-8 over the HGUC version. I still have a Gouf Flight type in storage as well. I remember the early MG Kits too. The GP-01 kit was one of the better kits from that era, but what the heck happened to the Full-Vernian...I mean it lacked some details the GP-01 kit had. Man there was so much Gunpla I built from '96 to '02 I cant count. I may have to look thru my boxes and pictures to see the development of what Gunpla was during the 90s compared to now. MY nostalgia always harkens to the 4 HG kits but I for got how well the Non-HG kits were from the late 80s.
Reiwa kits:new and improved
80's and 90's kits:oh we die thank you forever
And THIS explains my entire shelf of Gunpla from my childhood with floppy joints and open seams...
Still love them tho
I can agree with this...who else hates shitty polycap hands?
2:55 I have that exact Gerbera Tetra Kit! I picked it up from a guy at a con for like $15.
I was thrown off by the title a bit-it was the early 90's when my local comic shop got the 0080 kits in-the Zaku IIFZ being my introduction to Gunpla and just amazing. I really dug the value of 90's kits to a degree-The V-Gundam 1/144 kits were a great package, though seeing how the smaller kits from G and W were comparatively, I see the title statement being true. Thank goodness for the age of real HG.
I have just a theory, a game theory
i was always surprised when i see a NG 1/144 kampfer turn up in listings now and then, pretty detailed mold for the time and can do a lot more than most wing kits could.
4 years late! Recommendations baby.
need them to make a HG Gundam Epyon & Deathscythe Hell Revive
In the very least we're getting a new HG Leo and MG Tallgeese soon. Could mean more updated Wing kits in the future. Though honestly, the Leo needed it more than the Epyon and Deathscythe did because I don't think the Leo had a 1/144 kit at all.
got your wish with an rg and a p bandai
I was so happy to purchase my first gunpla. It was a 1/144 Wing Zero. My next after that was the 1/100 Deathscythe.
I hadn't bought any for almost 20 years until this last Christmas while out and abouts shopping. Wish me luck.
This explains why so many amazing mobile suits got pretty crappie gunplas in the 90's. Also I agree with your hypothesis about the low economy causing crappie models. To bad this was the case, cause my all time favorite gundam series is mobile fighter g gundam. Unfortunatly they have not made very many modern hg gunpla for mobile foghter g gundam, and even the few master grades out there aren't the greatest.
Not sure if the proposed reason is accurate, but it does make sense.
Just built my first MS model yesterday, a 1/144 HGUC Qubeley. Need to get an action base for it now.
my gundam all from 90s my parents bought it for me when i was a kid :D
I remember building some of these as a kid and I loved them, but mostly just because I didn't know there was anything any better.
I do have a 1998 Ez-8 kit that recently came in, only costed me around 24 dollars online on Ebay. The only good feature i like about my Ez-8 is that the cockpit actually slides out and can be opened the rest was fine but only came in with a few weapon accessories.
I would say your theory is most definitely the case, your argument is very well backed up by the recent issues with Hasbro's ''Transformers'' line of products. In recent years they have sacrificed quality over cost in order to maintain their profit margin after many years of losses. Within the last two years the lines, especially the 'TLK' Premier edition line, have seen dramatic rises in price in order to bring any profit whatsoever. It's been bad news for many collectors, but the only option left for a line struggling to regain its popularity. Not that it isn't popular, it's just not been the return the company has expected of its investment.Likewise Bandai seemed to have cut their cost of production in order to still meet product demand, yet turn a profit in a reduced market.
I wasn't aware of the economic crisis in Japan. It sorta makes sense- but it doesn't explain the 1/144 Victory Gundam line, which were/are pretty awesome kits. The 08th MS team 1/144 kits were fairly decent too- still the only way to get a Gouf Flight type H8.
I really want all 4 of the hg revive Gundam Wing
This was really interesting
Also running in the 90s ..... nice
Quick question: does the vigna zirah require glue
I agree. Those HG 1/144 and 1/100 Gundam Wing kit killed me. for me they looked so bad and my building skill was low too. After that i stop buying kits for a awhile and when i started again i would only pick up 1/100 MG kits. I even didnt want to try RG or new 1/144 kits when they came out. But I just came back from japan and at the Gundam Base you can see how each set of get better. and i gave in and pick up a few Gundam base limited 1/144 kits
3:56 HOL'UP THERE'S A GOUF FLIGHT TYPE KIT? GOD DAMN I WANT ONE OF THOSE
Love that Initial D Midi.
also in the 90 bandai has some 1/60 built and posable gundam figure (not kits of course) called HGEX
I just hope to get my hands on for zz revive
They also had SD Gundam franchise on the side, which has two series: the musha and the "original" They may had decided to divert resources to more product by the same team in the same period.
im concerned with all the air pockets in the plastic of my kits latley. for instance my rg exia's ear is not as smooth as it should be as an air pocket formed in between the runner and the part causing cavitation on the piece.
It's a very rare occurrence, but something you'll run into eventually. You're probably just having a bad luck streak if you had multiples in a short timespan.
If you bought it from a Japanese retailer(HLJ, Amiami, 1999,...), try to contact them to get a replacement part.
What I think what happened to the Models of 90s turning potato, is probably due to the plastic they must have used during the Production and Molding process, due to the High Cost and Mold Maintenance which gave some of the Kits a Micro Nuke feel when you finished building them and not only that bandai was Probably doing some Budget cuts along the way and only redeemed themselves for the 1/100s
I used to have an Gundam Mk II back in the 90s. The plastic get so brittle as time marches on. Afterwards I quit buying Gundam kits. Does the kits in this age have better plastic?
Gundam had also become more common in the west in the 90's that coupled with the economy crash might have forced them to make worse kits to keep up with the demand from the West and in japan
Ulrich Rustungjager Gundam wing did premier on the us till 4 years..... theres no way its because of the us
Yeah, Gundam was an unknown quantity for the most part in the West until Gundam Wing premiered on American television in 2000. That was on the Cartoon Network cable channel. Within a year or two of that, Dragonball Z and Sailor Moon showed on the same network. That was the true beginning of the modern anime boom in the West. Sure, for the previous decade unedited anime had been sold on VHS tape and laserdisc but for the most part it was STILL not being shown much on TV beyond edited and dubbed versions of series that HAD to comply with strict broadcast standards and practices. Even in the 1990s, there were major, major edits of Sailor Moon, Tekkaman Blade (Teknoman), and Legendary Armor Samurai Troopers (Ronin Warriors) before they aired on TV in the US let alone any part of the West.
You really didn't see Gundam anime unless you went to cons in the 1990s. That's where I was introduced to it. They showed the Movie Trilogy, 0080, and 0083 at Anime Expo in 1994 and 1995 when I attended. I was generally aware of Zeta and ZZ but just not into buying expensive boxsets of import laserdiscs or VHS tapes that weren't subtitled! I did collect more of 0080 and 0083 on LD, though.
Bandai launched its Anime Village website (now long defunct) in the second half of the 1990s and sold VHS editions of The Gundam Trilogy films, 0080, and 0083. Those tapes were eventually sold in home video stores, too.They created dubs for all those releases in the US. 0080 and 0083 were later re-released by Bandai on bilingual DVD in the early 2000s. The Movie Trilogy was also re-released but sub-only; the movie trilogy has NEVER been bilingual on any of the 5-inch disc releases, DVD or Blu ray.
Bandai/Sunrise has basically disowned the English dub for the Original Gundam movies. (Right now, you can see the dub for the first Gundam movie online BUT the other two movies were taken down by Bandai's request I believe.) The dub cast for the Movie Trilogy was completely different from the cast for the original MS Gundam TV series which was recorded at Ocean Studios in Vancouver, BC. The Movie Trilogy was recorded by an American company.
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The big Gundam push in the States did NOT come until after 2000 and even then the bubble lasted for maybe 2 years. Gundam Wing was the "official" launch of Gundam in the States despite the earlier VHS tape releases. Most people just never saw the VHS releases and it didn't register because it wasn't on TV which was STILL the main people were exposed to anime back then.
People today can't get their heads around the fact that A) the Internet in 2000 wasn't what it is today; and B) the main mechanism of spreading info about animation was still TV back then. If something didn't show on TV, it had a harder time of becoming popular unless the fanbase was rabid (see Ranma 1/2). It was another 5-10 years before streaming became a thing. Broadband service was still in its infancy then and we had NOTHING like Hulu, TH-cam, or Netflix Online back then, either.
I saw product for Wing, SD Gundam (the CG series), 0083, and the original Gundam in stores during this time (2000-2001). They were selling model kits, toys, and action figures. Gundam Wing was definitely the most popular of the series marketed and it was very difficult to get the model kits for a while.
None of the following/introduced Gundam series were as popular as Wing was. The original Gundam came on the air within a year of Gundam Wing I believe but it had horrible ratings and was removed from Cartoon Network's schedule before the last 4 or 5 episodes aired! G Gundam also aired and had better ratings than the original Gundam but still not as high as Gundam Wing.
They did show other Gundam series afterwards. Most of the franchise to that date (except for the original SD Gundam shorts, NOT that the CG SD Gundam series!!!) did air. The last major Gundam series that showed on CN was Gundam Seed. Gundam 00 aired on Sci-Fi (SyFy?) and was the last Gundam series to air on American TV for a LONG while, at least 5 years... I do believe Gundam Seed Destiny was aired on Teletoon in Canada but they never aired that dub in the US.
I wonder how different gunpla would be today if the 90's kits were up to par.
I wonder if that 90s crash you talked about is why 90s anime seem like a drop in quality in some respects during that decade? It certainly would explain some shit for sure.
I wouldn't be surprised if anime was also affected by that crash.
Kakarot197
Yup, and it's had a lasting effect on the entire industry. Leading to an even greater focus on toy and merchandise sales above all else. And an increase in more Otaku focused shows and themes since that crowd is more willing to spend a lot of money on merchandise and kits.
I built a lot of Gunpla in the late 90's/early 00's, the quality wasn't great, yes, but not terrible. Going from those to the 08th MS Team Master Grade kits was a significant and substantial improvement, though.
The early 80's re-issues were horrific, no amount of skill could save them.
Complacency? Lack of comparable competition? Bad Anime designs? But sure lack of disposable income would surely have an impact on the focus of hobby companies and consumers.
Cool perspective. As far as the "japan bashing" you forgot about all the (mostly) shitty "ninja" movies from the early 80s. Lol.
Not something I'm familiar with. Any "so bad they're good" ones out there I should check out? =P
Kakarot197
Ninja Strike Force
American Ninja
Revenge of the Ninja
Ninja Empire (90s though)
Stephanie Mckeever Those "ninja" movies should never be considered ninja movies.
MasterofLEGOS 100 some of them were NOT that bad..."sakura killers" and its sequal "the white phantom" were actually quite good for what they were.
@@masterqw1 American Ninja and Revenge of tbe Ninja were legitimate Cannon films, whereas Ninja Strike Force and Ninja Empire were Godfrey Ho movies which were stock footage of random unreleased movies his company acquired with rabe on ninja scenes mixed in and glied together with bad dubbing.
Thinking about the First Grade line that we have no those 1/144 NG kits were pretty good..... Those were the times that painting kits were necessary to achieve better results than straight builds.
RUNNING IN THE 90's
At least we got a few good kits like the HG G-Saviour (great kit despite being from a mediocre movie that I love for its cheesyness.), Some NG 1/144 scale kits, The HG Endless Waltz line (Double jointed knees, and the amount of posing possibilities.), and despite not being models the MSIA line.
i can not help but permanently associating your voice with LinusTechTips.
I'm around 90% you get this comment in every single video.
4:08 kimaris what u doin der?
I would agree that the economic situation probably steered Bandai to doing things more cheaply and quickly. I would also think that Bandai's sales priorities changed after Victory as they started doing shows with Gundam teams to push out more Gunpla and Gundam variations. Combine that with the lower quality kits and the market got flooded with cheap G , Wing and X kits. This was probably the reason as well as why didn't get many non-Gundam kits out of those shows as the mindset of only Gundams sell kits started then too.
You forgot about the only gunpla that require glue and snap fit to assamble. The humble 1/144 Zeta C1 plus.
Quite the contrary, the C1 was an amazing kit at the time because it pioneered the transition between glue and snap-fit.
I wish you had explained _why_ the kits were considered better before 1990. You just asserted that they were and moved on.
Were they more detailed? Did they have more colored parts instead of stickers? Were they better articulated? You just mentioned a couple of things, like the Nu Gundam having die cast parts and a workable hatch. That's hardly indicative of quality across the board, though.
Sitting here in 2020 still waiting on a HG Mercurius/Vayeate...
Better late than never...
www.gundamkitscollection.com/2020/09/p-bandai-hgac-1144-vayeate-and.html?m=1
Well it's about time! Too bad they are p bandai though.
yeah. that sums it up. the reason is pretty clear
Who else is here from the question of the week video in August 2021?
Can you do what if theory? I barely see one on youtube about gundam
Like
-What if athrun stay with zaft in Seed Destiny instead of escaping with meyrin?
-What if Amuro survived CCA and appears in Unicorn?
-What if Neil (lockon) haven't lose his right eye when he fight Ali? Can he win?
That sounds like an amazing idea, dude.
Not just the 90's
Every year. Overpriced junk in a box
TOYS ARE TOYS
PUZZLES ARE PUZZLES
TOYS ARE NOT PUZZLES
TOYS SHOULD NEVER BE PUZZLES
MAKING A TOY INTO A PUZZLE SHOULD BE A CRIME. STICKERS TOO
LEGO PLASTIC BUILDING TOY FTW
Because its older ?
Why were there*
We need a tallgeese 1 with tv color that's not p bandi
my first gunpla was Shinlong Gundam.......it did now turn out that good and it left a horrible taste in my mouth for the longest time.
I am running in the 90's
I have 90's kit
First grade kit RX 78-2
At least they remade most of them into the newer HGUC or HGwhatever system.
WHAT IS THAT GPO2?!?!?
Why hasn't BanDai remade the Virsago in HG yet? Arguably the best late 90's "gimmick kits".
Maybe it was just the 90s
I'd imagine it may also have to do with the target audience, mayhaps there wasn't enough sales for Bandai to push out fairly expensive model kits compared to the crappier no grade ones since adults were likely less inclined to buy colorful robots in favor of model planes and vehicles, also you have to remember that during this time Japan was still adjusting into their new modern society as traditional values of masculinity and gender bias were still more prevalent
so maybe the no grades were a solution to that by marketing them towards kids, teens and busy adults who have no time to build kits properly? I'd take this theory into consideration especially due to the new age of the 21st century and the internet, much more people are attracted towards the idea of detailed model kit construction due to more people sharing the same interests via online means, and hence there is a much bigger market now for Gundam model kits than there were in the past
I don't see why the 90s 08th MS team kits were "Bad" I think they're quite good.
I mean, they still haven't made another Gouf Flight Type since.
Oh i dont know myabe because their like 20 YEARS OLD
While poor state of economy was most likely biggest reason I can't help but to think that maybe Bandai trying to milk Gundam far too much back in 90's had it's part to play. After all they made new kits for new series that were released rapid speed all up to criminally underrated Gundam X that flopped when it comes to both people watching series back then as well as it's model kit sales. In other words already low budget was spend to make more and more model kits. But that's just my 2 cents.
Makes sense and lines up with one of the reasons I've heard why Gundam X failed, Gundam (and in this case I guess also gunpla) fatigue.
Just a damn shame it had to happen to X =/
Mecha82 I agree with that.
Totally agree that market saturation was the second reason. Both of these together explains the issue extremely well. It's possible there's other things that add on, but these would be the main 2.
Jamru Fin best kit
Japan Bashing, the movement that gave us the song Mr. Roboto. Unfortunately the singers failed to realize that they had to say Ro-Bo-Tou to get the message across and instead said Ro-Ba-Tou, which made it sound like they were making fun of some guy named Robert instead of referring to the Japanese as robots. Oh mid 80's-early 90's era, you so silly.
I think the real reason is because they thought that Gundam was going to catch on in the US and it did for a minute but the endless Waltz versions of the wing Gundam kit killed the franchise they were crap we were used to mediocre and we were okay with it I remember owning every one of those Wing Zero kits but we had a hobby store that was close to us that actually sold imported model kits so we knew that the Wing Zero kits we're poorly made but as an action figure and a model kit if it's far superior than anything that was out but the endless Waltz version was just garbage and that's what killed me purchasing American kits but what I find funny about the whole entire thing is that they say that there's not a market for it in the US but yet people who review it have thousands of subscribers not to mention that most kits coming out now are also written in English as well apparently Barnes and Nobles carries kits in America now Hobby town there's a store in our mall called pop culture that Carey's kits but no matter where you find them they are way overpriced so I think that's the real reason that band I did what they did that way retailers couldn't throw us to the ringer I paid $60 for my Master Grade Barbados that is ridiculous
I think the NG 1/100 Seed kits are completely inferior to even the 1/100 HG Endless Waltz kits in terms of proper proportions and detail. Many of the early Master Grades also had far better detail and proportions than the Seed kits. Look at the Dom, GP01/FB, GP02a, GM Quel, RX-79, RX-78 1.5, and ZZ: all classic MG's. I would also add that 1/100 G Gundam and Wing were all pretty shitty kits too. Gundam X was a big step up from Wing, and Wing: EW was a really big step up from GX.
G Gundam's were absolutely atrocious. It's true that the molding and plastic quality for the Wing kits were dubious, but at least they made for functional figures--and some of them had really nice features or glimmers of good design. If nothing else, you generally got everything needed for the kit.
G Gundam kits, on the other hand, often suffered from really bad articulation (shit, how many of them didn't have *waist* articulation), or were incomplete with their features--Gundam Maxter comes to mind for the latter...I mean come on, it came with one pistol instead of two (why?), and the boxer mode didn't have the alternative chest (again, one piece--even in red or gray it would have been nice). Other kits like Rose were an absolute disaster, and even as a kid/preteen, it felt like the G Gundam kits were a huge step down.
It makes it all the more sad that Gundam Wing and G Gundam have gotten very little love in the HGUC All Gundam project, because both lines *badly* need some revamps.
That's why they're called 'No Grades', mate.
Jeran Korak he clearly states in the video that the NG 1/100 seed kits superior to early master grades, they may have better articulation in some cases, but MG's from 4 years earlier were better in every other conceivable way.
Newtype 0085 Mostly agree with this, imo about half the older mgs were better than the NG SEED line, with the other half being at same quality or inferior. The one exception I can think of being the Red Frame, that thing was an anomaly though (love that kit)
shadowshinobi06 I agree, the V Gundam kits came out right on the tail of the 3 original 1/144 HG kits, and were of comparible, if not better, quality. The HG 1/100 V Gundam kits were quite nice as well and still have excellent proportions compared to pretty much every other HG 1/100 up until the Wing EW kits released.
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It had nothing to do with the economy whatsoever. Every era of the kits was just a sign of the time that the technology of making these kits was limited to. Right now the tech that's in the new kits are way ahead of it's time. The fact that these are considered model kits with moving parts and armor is a miracle that surpasses any model kit out there. Model cars only have rolling wheels. Look at what gunpla can do now.
you sound like DiamondaHagan
Not going to mention the Gundam anime series at all?! By 0083, UC was very much on it's last legs & V Gundam wasn't much better. G-Gundam was a crazy attempt to do do something different, with many concepts going on to Gundam Wing. Such a lack of focus in these years doesn't instill much confidence in designing Gundam models.
Evolution.
Pwimetime yes, also Bandai didn't have to step up the quality because there were no better alternatives besides ¥15,000+ B-Club kits.
I think the economic crash was the probable reason, though it also didn't help that the series were having difficulties either. As much hate as SEED gets sometimes, it is a difficult truth to deny that SEED did a lot to save Gundam after Gundam X's cancellation and Turn A failed to capture imaginations. I like both series, but yeah, they didn't set the world on fire, and model kits only seemed to make a full comeback in the early 2000s.
Yeah, credit where credit is due. With the arrival of Gundam Seed, we did get the second gunpla boom. I remember reading that this was also Fukuda's main goal (resulting in the Buster switching sides in an attempt to boost gunpla sales of the buster)
And hey, without Gundam Seed Destiny, I'd have no outro.
1:26 is that Nicholas Cage?
No , that's from Netflix adaptation of death note . The movie kinda 50/50 for me .
It sucks because G and Wing are two of my favorites. Wing gets a bit more love, especially lately with the new Leos and RG Tallgeeses but still most of the suits get ignored. G has it the worst though. If it's not Burning, Shining, Master or Noble, it doesn't exist according to bandai. Even if you can find kits from back in the day, they're so bad. Look at the Mercurious, that suit is awesome, but the only kit in existence is a piece of garbage.
i still think the wing series wasn't that bad for their kits
those 0083 kits were ok for their time..you the Modeler..ahem have to improve them or eat yer GM..
In the 90s, I had an Alpha-Azieru kit. And it totally sucked. It was rickety and ugly. The Zaku II from a decade later was infinitely better.
WOW Seed 1/100 2003:
dalong.net/review/seed/s3/p/s3_7.jpg
MG from 1998:
dalong.net/review/mg/m13/p/m13_n20.JPG
Seed kit looks like shit in comparison.
I stand by my statement.
Early Mg articulation:
www.dalong.net/review/mg/m09/p/m09_n19.jpg
www.dalong.net/review/mg/m02/p/m02_n22.jpg
www.dalong.net/review/mg/m17/p/m17_n18.JPG
Seed articulation
www.dalong.net/review/seed/s10/p/s10_5.jpg
00 articulation
www.dalong.net/review/00/0101/p/0101_42.jpg
Kakarot197 I gotta agree with Newtype, outside of better articulation, there are a few exceptions, but overall the MG are way better in every other aspect. That particular gelgoog and the tristars zakus were not all correctly color seperated and were probably the worst MG kits made ever. That MG is 7 years older than the Seed kits, pretty much everything from the GP01 forward (6 years earlier) was better than those no grade seed kits even with articulation. Some of those seed kits look like an early MG with down-syndrome.
Not entirely comparable, it's a lot easier to have a single yellow circle piece then to have a recessed piece with nine orange pegs sticking out.
Also, Seed kits until they started being redone in the MG line suffered from slavish accuracy to the line art. In most cases this is good, however the Seed line art was blocky and kind of ugly, and thus not followed in any action scenes in the Gundam Seed anime. But because the kits were following this line art, nearly all of the old Seed kits look a bit off and ugly proportionally, even though if you compare it side by side with the line art, it's quite a good representation.
The 1/100 aile strike had a particularly bad case of that lol.
But that's also why I was specifically talking about the 90's MGs, which mainly consist of remolds of the RX-78-2, Zaku II and Gelgoog. And why "many" was in my line (excluding the few great ones like the old MK.II, which had moving pistons and the Dom, which I've heard was a great kit for the time)
So if Japan's economy is now stable, why not BANDAI is making re-issue retools of G-Gundam and Gundam Wing series in the HG line? And they keep making old G-Gundam Kits from 1994 and even making old molds from the Wing series including Endless Waltz HG line?
They SHOULD TRASH those old molds. Stickers too from those 90's kits are unstable and easily peel off.
Retooling, specifically making new molds, is the most expensive part of kit production, especially for HGs. Now why they didn't continue the HG lines started with the All Gundam Project is a mystery. If they did only 1 from each AU a year since then, we'd have an almost full set of HGAC Wing TV and HGAW Gundam X Gundams by now. And we'd have almost all the G Gundam ones that matter. I really wish they'd go back and finish those lines.
Yet they have MUCH budget for HG Build Fighters kit?
Every model kit manufacturer reissues older kits from time to time. Bandai just happens to do it more often because they will sell.
@@jeffreymorales5207 few Build Fighters kits are completely new. At least 1 old runner is used in a kit, resulting in different quality
Thing is, Since they're still releasing old kits, why they haven't improve the quality of stickers? I wanna buy HG Endless Waltz but the sticker sheet are still the same like it isn't exactly fits to the intended area.
For example, HG EW Heavyarms Custom. See the light blue chest lines? The stickers isn't as accurate to the width of those groove lines on the chest.
90s kit isnt that bad actualy bandai is still recycling it over and over again then labeling it with p
There was ww2 but gunpla was more important
Interest in gundam went down in the 90.
That was all there was to it.
What an odd question to ask. Why were Transformers in the 80's so simple? Why were original Nintendo games so basic looking? It's all about learning and improving. You go from static glue together models, to articulate snap together ones. There's gonna be some growing pains.
As I said in the video, it's not a linear progression. Gunpla went from basic in the early 80's to great in the late 80's and then went down in quality. If you went from the NES to the SNES, you expect N64 quality next, not NES quality again.
Take a look at the models in the later half of the 80's when they were molding multiple colors on one part (not just on the runners). They had the money and budget to engineer kits much better. The joint systems even as far back as the old MSV line were rapidly improving. When we finally get to Char's Counterattack and 0080, as the video mentions, their build quality and engineering of 1/144 scale kits is on par with HG kits that we wouldn't see until the late 90's with 08th MS Team, Endless Waltz, and very early HGUC kits. Between CCA/0080/Original HG kits and the EW/HGUC kits, we have a slew of 1/144 scale kits made based around basic easy to use frames (Victory) or the same very basic poly-cap set (G, W, and X) all made cheaply and engineered to be the same basic build over and over. We see this also in the writing of the anime series of the 90's, all the MS get smaller which means smaller kits, less plastic used, cheaper to make.
i found gold..
I have that death scythe and it is shit
feel like 2020s are now coming beck to 90s
I wonder if Japan's current economic state is responsible for the P-Bandai apocalypse we seem to be having
I think it's just Bandai's fault. Other companies seem to not be affected by this. Heck, Kotobukiya is already expecting the HMM Storm Sworder.
I didn't know what you based on to come up with the theory. It's just the opinion of your friend and your discussion. I don't considered 90's kits so bad comparing to 80s.