Why Didn't Char Use a High Mobility Type Zaku II? [Question of the Week]
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In this video I’m mostly covering the question from the “mainline UC” perspective, but I also added some notes to cover the “The Origin UC”
Here are a few differences to keep in mind:
In The Origin, the Black Tristars already have their HMT Zakus during Loum, in mainline UC they don’t get their HMT Zakus until much later. They used C-types during Loum, got S-types as a reward for capturing Revil and then at some later time upgraded to their HMT Zakus. Aditionally, in mainline UC, the HMT Zaku is a development from the F-type, which was introduced after Loum.
In The Origin, Char’s mission immediately after Loum is explicitly to look for the Federation’s V-project whereas in mainline UC this is never confirmed (afaik) and he just stumbles upon it during a routine mission. While this doesn’t exclude that the same thing as in The Origin happened, it also opens the door for more speculation (as I did in the video)
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@Kakarot197 Wait wait hold the phone...so the High Mobility Zaku II is a space only mobile suit? Gundam Battle Operation 2 says otherwise cause it's both space and ground....they clearly didn't do their homework -_-
@Neo_Zian8904 the Zaku 2 Hi Mo R1 and R2 are for space only due to the new parts fited for space and while there was also a Zaku 2 ground type Hi Mo, but for GBO2 they probably made them playable for the game
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There is one question that you can clarify ever since the “Jim or GM” video:
Is a Hizack supposed to be called “Hi-Zaku”?
The Chinese name for “Hizack” is “高萨古” with “高” meaning “tall/high”. I thought that this was a mistranslation. but the more I think about it, the more I lean towards calling it “Hi-Zaku”.
The Hizack just have a new backpack and an “upgraded” generator, but the generator is sub-par, as the Hizack can only carry one beam weapon.
So which one is correct:
Hizack? Or Hi-Zaku?
They gave Char one, but accidently mailed it to Johnny Ridden
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My brother accidently bought tge jonny ridden version lol
@@charisma7268 it's the better version
They just stuffed it in a really big envelope and the space mail-person dropped it behind him.
Basically..
Like every War Veteran.
They like the gun that they are used to..
You know what they say: If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Or general tools. Like my babies, my sledge hammer and pick axe.
As like in WWII most tank aces got to be aces in older vehicles, then forced into newer ones for propaganda purposes.
Just like how Soldiers who drives the M2 Bradley, loves make fun of the M2 Bradley, but ends up loving it in the long run, despite all it's flaws..
*"A troop transport that can't carry troops, a reconnaissance vehicle that's too conspicuous to do reconnaissance, and a quasi-tank that has less armor than a snowblower, but has enough ammo to take out half of D.C."*
This is actually a kind of war myth that had some interesting parallels;
In WWII officers were allowed to replace their regular service rifle with a submachine gun, but most newly-minted NCOs, such as sergeants, would prefer their rifles, usually.
Why? Because snipers would pick off the guy who looks like an officer first. If SMGs were handed to officers it would be easier to see than insignia.
Here's a fifth possibility: The standard Zaku 2 was the bread and butter of the Zeon military, and someone high up in Zeon probably wanted to show that their ace used the same machine as the common soldier. It probably made great propoganda, encouraging soldiers to be more like Char, etc. Char might also have valued this connection to the Zeon soldiers, not wanting to seem aloof/distant like the Zabis and some of the aces.
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Yeah that's kind of my thought process as well
Char did have a mind for politics and manipulation even then.
Another one is around the time it was rolling out Char was being punished for the death of Garma.
@@DIEGhostfish Well, his father was Zeon Deikun, AKA founder of Zeon.
I am more leaning towards him being proud that he can outperform all of the zeon aces in a simple zaku II commander type.
And to rub it in Ridden's copycat face.
Exactly what I thought as well. Reminds me of Mr Bushido's (00) insistence to not use any of the cutting edge GNX units and instead use his old machine (just upgraded with new tech of course)--he knew skills-wise he could beat the hell out of Setsuna even in his twin drive Gundam.
@@infernas to be fair, Setsuna relied too much on the gundam performance. it was only later on that he actually became a better pilot. but early on? he got his crap kicked twice, by 2 diferent pilots in completely underpowered units.
@@infernas That was when Setsuna couldn't use Trans-Am.
Are we sure it wasnt solely to piss off the black tri-stars? Ya know because.........fuck the black tri-stars🤣🤣🤣
Random origin reference
"Everyone wanted a Zaku I because no one wanted Zaku I's."
My favorite quote.
I've always thought that when they rolled out High Mobility Type 2, Char was already fired by Dozle for failing to protect Garma and Kycilia haven't hired him yet. By the time he could've gotten it, they're already testing Gelgoog, and he was one of the first recipient of that.
I was thinking the same thing, but the Black Tri-Stars had their High Mobilities in July of 0079, and used them until October, when Kycilia transferred them to Earth, following Garma's death, and gave them Doms. I think we can chock this one up to a combination of Zabi in-fighting (Kycilia took them all to the point that even Dozle couldn't get one as a personal MS) and Char already had his personal Zaku souped up to the same performance. If it is any consolation, it appears that Char stole one of the Black Tri-Star's High Mobility Zakus after the war and used it during 0083.
imagine char with a dom halfway into the original gundam vs his zaku and pre his gelgoog. he would of made the black tri stars look like total amateurs
Me too
@@Nomadic_Gaming apparently he uses one in the novels at some point I think during the final battle I'm not entirely sure
@@benogle4951 i mean at the end of the day theres plenty of newer suits char could of taken and been an absolute monster or crap given his skill w his zaku were due to familiarity along w his pilot skills and it always looked better that he would be such a menace w a more basic suit and vs the new cutting edge suits of whitebase
still a gouf or dom for char seem cool but idk after thinking on it i realized it may not of been good for him in the long run vs the workhorse that the zaku2 was
still given all the crazy zeon suits we got as side story units like say the efreet that are amazing what if suits char could of had him running that zaku up till near the end is and always will be iconic and be a huge part of what made him the char we know
I'm firmly in the reason 3 camp: Char was mostly on Earth during the R-1's limelight, and by the time he went back to space, the Gelgoog was about to hit the stage. He simply had no opportunity or need to use a R-1 or R-2.
I find this to be the most logical explanation, yes.
Also because the HM Zaku wasn't thought of until long after the show had finished airing, but that's less fun.
Why wasnt Sayla given a Mobile Suit of her own to pilot post-Jaburo. Or why wasnt the White Base loaded with GMs post-Jaburo being that it's an actual MS Carrier under the EFSF.
In the Origins manga, Sayla was given an MS which was a heavily upgraded GM
Sayla herself was already the G-Fighter/Core Booster pilot, and she proved to be a much better fighter pilot than MS pilot (as proven by her experiences during Ramba Ral's attacks). That's why she herself didn't get a Mobile Suit in the main UC.
As for the White Base as a whole... They really didn't have a lot of trained Mobile Suit pilots aboard.
It was flat out stated that the White Base and the Gundam was nothing more than Zeon bait at the later stages of the war in the eyes of the Federation. There was no point in wasting GM's when Amuro did a good enough job of winning the war single handedly for the feddies.
@@aliastheabnormal I mean, they could had given the golden boy a Commander GM, just in case the Gundam goes down and Amuro survives.
@@MidoriNatsume The Federation feared Amuro. The people behind the Titans would have used the destruction of the Gundam as an excuse to get rid of the White Base crew sooner. Also Amuro would wreck any GM that he would pilot he was far too skilled for anything that the Federation had. Don't forget that's the reason why the G3, the ALEX, and the magnetic coating were all made to begin with
I always assumed he was just too preoccupied to get one. When he calls Dozel to request supplies, he mentions that Char was supposed to be a guest of honor for a party celebrating his most recent victory, possibly even rewarding him with one of those machines. However, he accidentally discovers the V Project and chased after the White Base to Earth. By the time of the Jaburo attack, the Z'gok was the top machine at the time and became his next mainstay until the Gelgoog S type
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Char only used a Z’gok for the Invasion of Jaburo, he found out about the underwater entrance and thus grabbed the best submersible mobile suit (that was being mass produced, imagine Char in a Hygogg) some side material has Char use a Rick Dom before getting his Gelgoog, and of course, there was the Zeong. (Which I imagine if Lalah was still alive she would have piloted the Zeong while Char kept his Gelgoog.)
@@krism.6598 Yes thats true. He also went to space shortly after and managed to catch up to the White Base before heading to Side 6
More likely answer: Char already had his Commander suit customized. From the series, it is clear that this takes a lot of flight and combat data. Switching to a new suit means losing all of that and starting over.
One word:
Gelgoog
maybe he was waiting for the Gelgoog, Char always have the latest machine so I don't buy the reason that he got used to Zaku II commander type and don't want the high mobility type.
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That is my problem too, our boy char was getting a new mobile suit every arch.
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Operational time could also be a factor. Yes, the high mobility types' overall performance is better, but it can't operate at that performance for as long.
Whoa first time I’ve ever seen your face! :D and a question that I’d like to ask is why didn’t Athrun “continued” along with Durandels plan and steal the Legend Gundam rather than stealing a Gouf ignited
maybe the legend had some sort of "kill switch" that disable the suit because it was a state of the art machine and in the same year the chaos, abyss and gaia were stolen. so a system like that could have been added as a safety function because athrun was not completely thrusted by durandel.
Tbh i think he just made his decision last second and the gouf was just his fastest option at the moment
dumb writing is the true answer
I had the same question. He was the designated pilot after all.
@@rabbani3094 i find if you rewatch destiny you'll see that it's almost as if he was expecting athrun to do what he did and it also seems like it was never really meant for him. I think we can all agree the legend is just a providence.Jr and ray is a clone that shares the same gene's as the Providence's pilot and all those factors i just listed are related to durandle so the real question is why didnt he just jive ray the legend to begin with using the excuse that rays zaku phantom was pretty much destroyed especially since he knew athrun was more than likely going to leave them
4:18 I've wondered this as well. One of the conclusions I came to is the same But the other one is radically different. Char aznable was a hero to all of the soldiers and people of Zeon. The zaku II Is a very iconic Zeon mobile suit. There's a lot of powerful symbolism 2 regular enlisted men When Char aznable uses the same Mobile Suit they use. If it's good enough for him, then it's good enough for me.
Hey, I know I'm three years late but I wanted to say this about vehicle availability rates in the military, I was in the USAF as a aircraft mechanic. Vehicle Rates are more based on the experience and availability of trained mechanics more then the actual reliability of the machine if its a well built machine. The main reason something like the original Gundam was able to preform at 100% reliability was solely down to having a very experienced mechanics to repair it (RIP Medoz). Its very likely that for Zeon having pilot shortages to the point that teenagers are flying their most advanced machines, the same could be said of the mechanic crews as well suffering from lack of trained mechanics and shortage of spare parts. Doesn't matter how good and reliable the mobile suit is when it comes back with heavily damaged limbs from blocking shots or worn put parts from pilots pushing the machine to far. Plus, I wouldn't be surprised that because Char was rather infamous for his high speed, he probably triggered a bunch of safety features in his mobile suit that required the techs to perform very time consuming inspections to make sure nothing has broken that could later on kill him accidentally. Maybe at first it was easy to do because crews were well staffed and had plenty of time to complete the inspections but as the war dragged on and more ships were destroyed, new ships required new crews and the fastest way to speed up training is to pull those really experienced techs out and either send them to the schools to teach or send them to the new ships as higher ranking members to lead the now really inexperienced crews while being replaced in their old units by new less trained or maybe not even being replaced at all. Let's say a typical Zeon mechanic unit has 60 techs for ten machines, by the end of the way this could have been cut down to just 30 or even less now putting a heavy workload on a much smaller crew. This will lead to mistakes and short cuts/pencil wiping to speed up maintenance which in turn will kill many pilots and just make the situation even worse for everyone. Anyway, sorry for rambling.
Some things I thought of:
1. Char could’ve found it patronising being given a better mobile suit, as if it was saying his performance wasn’t already good enough so he tried to prove them wrong.
2. Kycilia Zabi knew Char was Casval, so might’ve interfered with Char getting a Zaku high mobility type.
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@@FLMKane I think you’re mistaking me for that cool chad Char
@@QuattroPogjeena bro... I heard your speech... Casval
@@FLMKanelies and deception!
Sieg Zeon!
And here we are in 2022 where we get a glimpse of Char’s Zaku High Mobility Type, hopefully to show up in the new Gundam movie.
Char: I'm 3x faster already I don't need it noobs.
i like the format, thanks for making this and i would love to have more of these on a regular basis. that's all i have to tell you right now
I don't have a question this week but I wanted to say I love the new video idea. Gundam lore and list videos have always been my favorite videos on your channel. Great work
Love the new video idea, hands down my favorite channel on TH-cam!
Great video! I always enjoy watching your videos and learning lot's of interesting things about the gundam franchise! I especially like that you often go into lots of details about things, keep up the great work!
Zaku 2: Old faithful Camry
High Mobility Type: New BMW Runs nice but spends to much time in the shop.
Think the reason he didnt got one was simply because he was on special asignment to go after the gundam project pretty much in covert ops. The supply lines didnt allow them to ship a high mobility type to them. Sure they got resuplied after their first battle with the white base but they had to do with what was available since the invasion of earth was well underway at that point allready and zeon was strapped for resources, not to mention they where in pursuit of the white base and couldnt wait. Considering that there is no faster then light travel in the UC, Char had been out in space for months by that point. So if the High mobility type wasnt available at the point of his departure from zeon controlled space it makes sense that he didnt got one.
The other aces where all stationed at important military bases, part of the invasion army or part of large fleets. None of them where operating behind enemy lines when they got their high mobility types.
So yeah.. makes perfect sense that he was the only one who didnt got one.
I like this video format a lot, by the way. I've been a subscriber for a long time, and it's great seeing your channel grow more and more. Also, bet you're really looking forward to the 1/144 HG Windam. So overdo, I am really looking forward to it.
You are my favorite gundam account. This was always something I wondered and had come to similar conclusions as you. Keep up the great work!
Thank you for making this video subject!!
I like the new video format idea. It's a good chance to expand on things people wouldn't have thought about, but find interesting.
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And for my opinion is that in Origin Ova char ask one of engineer to remove limiter from his zaku so he can go 3 time faster than normal zaku II. So i think 3 time faster normal zaku II is almost the same with zaku II high mobility type R2
It’s not equal it’s still slower. The Gelgoog and High Mobility are close. One thing is Char was being punished from the death of Garma.
Great video, love this new format. One additional reason I can think of is that Char had the limiters removed on his Zaku, so the performance was much greater than a standard Commander type & possibly even rivaled the R1-A.
Really cool vid !!
I'd love to see more videos like this in the future!
Hey I enjoyed your video it was really informative next time do you think you could edit the mobile suits that drafts we talkin about in the background of your video
This kind of video is a good idea
Also i would love to hear your take on the gm spartan and wether or not it influenced master chief or not
I always wondered this and all the things you mentioned makes sense.
I LOVE the "answer a question a week" idea ^_^ My question:
What happened to Mineva Zabi after the One Year War, and when was she replaced with the double we see in ZZ? I know some theories point to Char helping her escape to protect her (or stick it to Haman). Or the EFF acquired (captured?) her as a bargaining chip (this is hinted at in Unicorn). But also some think the Mineva we see in Unicorn is actually just a clone or another double, mirroring Full Frontal's philosophy of "If the people need me to be the Red Comet, then the Red Comet I shall be."
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I'd like you do do some videos on the starships,
Design
Usability
Weapons
Etc.
Personal thoughts on all subjects as well as fact
Thank you for providing more information about the gundam
I like these kind of videos looking forward to see more.
On a random note here is a question for you. Why is Meyrin Hawke your best girl?
Nice video, Keep going! 👍
Very awesome video and quite informative! I never knew that the R2 was essentially the same as a Gelgoog and considering that Char would come to pilot a Gelgoog unit I suppose one could argue redundancy.
There's also the possibility that Johnny Ridden would get triggered of Char also picked up an R2. Lol
Not gonna lie, at first glance you kind of have a young Tom Cruise look going on right now.
That aside, love your videos Kakarot. From your awesome Lore videos to your Gunpla reviews "next to the standard sized GM Custom and the always bulky Zaku III." and those MS Development History vids are a nice touch, pretty helpful for us average Gundam fans that still don't know much about the series as a whole.
can you do a video on how the federation (especially the titans) adapted and improved zeon tech and why it got phased out so quickly after the gryps war, also why it don't saw any further development after most later models performed quite effective
I always wondered why that is so besides of course zeta being a civil war and the villains always need to have mono-eyes on their suits would be nice if you could dig out any background information on that
You can thank Anaheim Electronics for that. After the OYW, Zeon's MS manufacturers were absorbed by Anaheim and the Earth Federation elected to start outsourcing their MS production to AE.
They also did not to show anything that looked close to Zeon due to how bad the titans were so everything related to Zeon was scrapped no matter how effective.
Not all mobile suits with mono-eyes are bad. The Rick Dias and the dijeh and the Methuss had mono-eyes.
@@blackcomet2nd950 1st time i heard char piloted the dijeh, had me shookt
@@blackcomet2nd950 i would not call the Dias Eye a true Mono Eye cause it doesnt really move unless the whole head moves lol
I was always under the impression that the Zaku Commander type was the overall best all-pupose unit at that time. While a HMT will outperform it in space, it might fall behind inside a colony or on a planet. It is also quite difficult to say how big the performance gap between the two really is because just because it uses Gelgoog tech, it's still not he real thing. On top of that Char has spent quite some time into mastering his Zaku. He knew the machine in and out and could push it to its limits effectively. Since the HMT was kind of a poor man's Gelgoog he wouold have had to learn everything again.
Best answer I can think of is that he simply wasn't able to get one. He was constantly away from Side 3 or the primary space bases of Zeon during the time of the HighMo development cycle, and the primary HighMo units were space exclusive machines. Char was on Earth from the time he chased the White Base down to the time he invaded Jaburo. Upon getting back to space, he was given a new prototype Gelgoog, one of the earliest production models, and likely never got a HighMo version while he was operating with the Newtype Corp (perhaps because of Kycilia's hubris regarding the Newtype Corp). By the time he got back to base, all the machines were out and he got the Zeong, and the war ended.
This was something I thought about before, I always figured it was because the performance was close two his own custom Zaku II with it's over tuned specs. Although Char did show later he could handle even bigger performimg mobile suits, so it made me wonder why he just didn't use a over tuned HM model. Thanks for your answer Kakarot.👍
I really like the idea of the in-house politics of the Zabi family having something to do with it, the way you layer it out seems very plausible.
The idea of Char wanting the accessibility of parts for repairs/modifications that was offered for the basic/earlier Zaku types makes a lot of sense too and seems in-line with the way Char would think.
Love the video but fr there many points where Char used older Machines then his team I always felt it was to show them strength and like your said familiarity
Love the new format man
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Hey Kak remember that video you did about General Revil’s Zeon’s exhausted speech and how you wondered why the zabi’s let him go? We’ll MSG origins gave a pretty good answer and I was wondering if you could do a rundown on that series since not all of us can be bothered to watch it.
I like your reasoning and this is a pretty good idea for a video, but I thought the Hizack was made because the Titan's Test Team said that Zeon technology was ahead of the Earth Federation or that it was to experiment with Zeon tech being combined with EFF tech.
I always wondered what you looked like lol you seem cool, would be cool to speak to more mobile suit enthusiasts in Vegas, I particularly like universal century.
I like to think that Char had made so many little tunes and modifications that he saw getting a new one as a hassle. also he needed beam weapons to compete.
Though i happily agree to all 4 reasons being plausable, there's something about the 4th one that makes me feel like clinging on to due to how real world militaries do this with the use and maintainance of their vehicles and weapons.
Why jump the shark with a totally new or more expensive upgrade to an exhisting model of vehicle/weapon if it's doing just fine? (At least that's what i got from watching all the mobile suit development videos you made, which in retrospect got me into the world of Kidou Senshi Gundam)
Awesome video and i wouldnt mind seeing a lot more ones like this in the future!
Makes Sense. Great Explanation.
Especially the first (and fourth) point is really important.
Real world soldiers when given the option often use outdated equipment long after the replacement has been issued either out of sentimentality/stubbornness to admit that the new stuff will work better for them, or just because in live combat it's better to stick to what you know instead of using flashy new stuff and have it break/not work in the way you expect it to
Do more of these. Low effort, but it helps your algorithm metrics and they’re of course extremely interesting
love the video i cant believe my question turned into a video
Just going back and watching this, I like how he was like "If you've never seen my face before, Hiya!" and then 2 years later he's the number1 go to for weekly gundam news.
Interestingly, my MSIA Char's Zaku II action figure, second version, came with an optional minelayer backpack that could replace the standard backpack on his MS-06S. The minelayer backpack, in addition to holding mines, had 50% greater propellant capacity and additional maneuvering jets, and led to the development of the High Mobility Type's backpack that included the additional jets and propellant but deleted the mines. To my knowledge, Char never used the minelayer backpack on his Zaku. It also came with an MMP-80 90mm machine gun (in addition to the bazooka and 120mm machine gun), which again Char never used and had quit using his Zaku II by the time the MMP-80 came out, so the inclusion of these is confusing.
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In my theory is that the High mobility type was so limited is that not all aces was able to get one and when Char caught wind of this new zaku variant it was already too late as production was (presumably) halted for the new gelgoog already entered production so he chooses the gelgoog over the High mobility type instead
Great job like always. My thoughts on it are the Char was using the Zgok as he was on earth. In the movies they didn't show much till he tested the Gelgoog on Texas colony. So could it just be that he knew of the development of it and was testing it as the high mobility zaku 2's were being released? I couldn't find any devolment data on the zaku as of a release date during the war.
Reason #4 by the time the High mobility types where being passed out, Char was using a Z'Gok on the attack on Jaburro Base, and when he returned to space got an MS-14, which the HMT-R2's were put out to fill the delayed production gap of the MS-14.
Reason #5 though doesn't apply with the Zaku HMT, certain variations were designed and produced at certain locations / sub factions.
Like AXIS was responsible for the MS-06F2, MS-09R and R2, MS-14Jg (like as to why Cima had a marine com, and not a jager) the MS-17's and the entire MS-18 series both type E and Type F (which used the rifle of the ms-14Jg). Generally look at the design difference and you'll see a trend on whether it was an Axis Variant or a Zeon Variant during the war.
In Cucuruz Doan's Island the nightmare of Ray will see Chars High mobility type kicking ass of Gundam.
I always did find it odd in origins that the Black Tri-Stars had high mobility types so I try to ignore that since I thought they didn’t come into production until later on in the war. I think it’s also possible that Char never got a high mobility type because he got the gelgoog early production type instead, or because after “failing to protect Garama.” He never got one because the Zabi’s refused to give him one. However he was relieved of duty if I recall correctly shortly after “failing to protect Garma.” So he just wasn’t in the military to get one and when Kycilia reintegrated him into the military he got the gelgoog.
In fact, the Red Baron himself once opted for a slower plane to have smaller turning radii.
As sounds like good idea for Char pilot a High Mobility type Zaku but he's already used to his Zaku before he got Gelgoog Early Type (given to Ace and Commander only)
The red paint made Char's Zaku S-type three times faster than a regular F-type anyway, so it basically makes using the high mobility type moot anyway.
Personally id see it as one of three reasons
1 werent they being produced during the jaburo attack? If so that would mean he was most likely still assigned to black angler and as a result used the Z'gok amphibious ms
2 if he was in space, for the most part was in side six, so again if they were out, federation was moving in on side six as some colonies secretly aided EFSF
3 by the time he got an upgrade, he got a prototype gelgoog (which was a slight improvement to Zaku ii high mobility since beam weaponry, which he made great use of)
I just always assumed it was just the timing. He kept his custom all the way till the attack on Jaburo where he of course swapped out for the Z'gok, and then went back to space to get the Gelgoog and then the Zeong from there. he didn't really have time or the need to go back to the Zaku II High Mobility type.
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Q&A vids with you in front of the camera is a neat idea. It saves you editing time and it'll give us viewers more of that Always Awesome Gundam Lore.
(A suggestion though if you don't mind, it would be better if you were looking directly at the camera. :) )
A possible 5th reason is the Gelgoog and the Zaku II R-2 were developed around the same time and since the Gelgoog could be used in both space and on earth with realistically no modifications needed that would most likely appeal to Char more just as his Zaku II S type would perform under the same conditions.
To me it was just a simple retcon as some of chars Zaku 2 kits have extra thrusters on them indicating a customised suit which probably matched the performance of the HMT kinda like a well tuned street car compared to a normal race car.
My reasoning is that Char at the time was already considered an ace and had leadership skills, so it made sense for him to have a commander unit that is said to have improved communication hardware (in order to give orders to others more effectively), while the HMT didn't have that. He did however have the limiters removed from the commander type he piloted (at his request), which allowed it to perform greatly. When he got back into space, there was no need for a HMT because the Gelgoog was made by the time he was going to go out into combat (as well as act as a test pilot).
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How about doing some what ifs in this format? Like what if Zeon won ( or at least survived) the One Year War?
Your basically referring to girhen creed
Do a video on The High Mobility Ez8!
I know I'm really late to this but it could have been a morale thing like it inspires his troops more when he's fighting in a machine that's pretty much just like theirs with a few modifications, and so they feel like if he can do so good in that suit maybe we can too, and if he was to use the high mobility type it would have undermined that morale because they'd be like well there's got to be a reason why he switched to that, maybe there's a problem with these things
Parts. All that's removed are the limiters. The only hi mobility units he used are the Gelgoog.
I think its a combination of things. First of all his unit in particular was customized beyond a standard commander type. We see this in figures, games and some models. Beefier reactor, bigger thrusters, added leg thrusters (even adding more on the rg) etc. Although he was a damn good pilot in a zaku 1 (in origins) he didn't seem to have the full recognition or respect of aces like black tri stars. They seemed to think he was cocky if I remember.
We already see his suits from 1 to 2 get overhauled multiple times, which in itself shows he had some sort of prefrence from command yet it wasn't until he crushed multiple federation ships on his own and being coined the red comet that they seemed to see his level. Black tri stars were in the prototypes at this point and he was showing them up.
Either they kept fine tuning his suit and used it because anyone seeing a commander zaku of that color and speed coming knew who it was on both sides. One can assume that he would have gotten one if his mission hadn't taken him to Earth.
Remember he got his own zgok to invade Jaburo, and the ground high mobility type was for Earth forces only as they weren't planning to have to take them back into space.
Once they are back in space however char is given a gelgoog, assigned specific duties such as aiding Lalah. Beam weapons or similar specs but no beam weapons? At this point the other aces were either getting their gelgoogs or in one of the last iterations of the hmt.
By the last battle Char was given the Zeong because he was a newtype, but if that wasn't the case he'd probably have had a high mobility gelgoog or other top variant.
I wouldn't even be shocked if his was given away 🤣
Another reason could be that the high mobility type WAS based on char's hightened performance on his zaku 2 (if memory serves his zaku has 3 times the performance due to his insistence of greater tuneing - origin starts with char outclassing everyone else and still wanted more dispite the mechanics warning about g force with char saying he could handle it, even in the original series char's zaku had better performance than regular models of the same class so therefore the improvements went into the next class " high mobility" again based on char's insistence of greater and greater performance so much the high mobility was equal to and slightly better performance wise thanks to char , and every one knows that after the oyw most pilots wanted the same class as his . plus for every suit char used the performance was greater than the regular issue owing to his insistence on greater tuneing and more power so he sets the standard and others follow
Ty kakarot197, I like this style. On the zaku 2 HM and char I see three reasons rarity, politics, and chars skill set.
Firstly rarity as you said parts weren't common and Chars knew that so he most likely took a pass.
Second politics, Gehrin and kecilia were vieing for absolute dominance over the other, Char didn't want to be beholden to one or the other while Dozle was a good man at heart he was not the brightest bulb nor had the will to step on his family ambition. While Char might have gotten one if a request was made Gehrin and Kecilia would have noticed and cast their eye on him.
Third his skill set, Char knew he could take a ms 06S to its upper limit without injuring or killing himself by removing the limiters on the suit. With the high mobility he most likely couldn't disengage the limiters with killing himself using it! So while the high mobility had better stats his body couldn't handle it and with the limiters off the performance was inferior to an ms 06S.
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Reasons I could think of are "Timing, Availability &, Point in time performance". For timing & Availability: When was the Zaku II High Mobility Type even available for aces? I mean, was it made available long before or not until after he was on Earth chasing The White Base? As for how "Point in time Performance" has anything to do with this: Which is better, the Zaku II High Mobility Type or the Gelgoog? Cause I'm left with the impression that, no matter what type of Zaku II you compare the Gelgoog to, the Gelgoog is just all around better. Better armor, better speed, can use beam weapons, etc. Soooo, if there really weren't any Zaku II High Mobility Types available for Char until he went back into space chasing after The White Base but, the Gelgoog was already available by that time, it could be begged to ask: Why bother with a Zaku II High Mobility Type when, the Gelgoog is already available?
can you do one on like the relation why and how some beam weapons seem to be able MS itself while others require E caps and such?
like the hi-zack only being able to equip 1 beam weapon at a time, so how does the MS generator affect its equipment? Esp since many of these weapons does not have like any cables or physical connection to the MS itself?
It's like upgrading a car to have 500 bhp and the someone telling you that you need to go to a new car and have to go through that whole process again to get the same or higher performance. Char simply upgraded the suit to his desires and didn't need anything else. Him getting a High-Mobility Type would have costed the Zeon Army quite a bit given the upgrades he did to it not to mention the time it would take to apply those upgrades, and, with Zeon fighting an uphill battle, time and money was of the essence for the Zeon army and their aces.
My theory is that the war only lasted a year and was really spread out over several theaters. Per fluff what kicked off the development of the High Mobility Types was the Zakus' subpar performance against the GM's. Meaning it all happened after Jaburo when the GM's debuted. Around the same time his colleagues were playing with the HM Types Char was doing other things, like chasing after the Gundam. I suppose one could have been assigned to him, but he has no appearances during the time he could have been using it(about 3 wks) and it would have been moot when he got his Gelgoog.
I always figured in universe that High Mobility Zakus were still early in development at the start of the series also Char being temporarily discharged after Garmas death and him staying on Earth until the Gelgoog was being developed were the other reasons.
In mainline uc it pretty quickly shows char has pretty poo supply straight off the back he requested a handful of zaku iis to replace those lost going after the Gundam and ended up only receiving like 2 zaku 1s
I think the big one was area of operation. The R1 and R2 could only get spare parts from Zeonic in the homeland. Char was part of an autonomous unit and FAR from supply lines. No way he was going to be able to replace parts on the experimental unit.
I don't recall if in the original 0079 it was ever expanded upon that all MS-06S models were three times faster than a normal Zaku II but if you want to consider The Origin the canon (it does seem better thought out) of the White Base in the One Year War, Char personally oversaw his Zaku II's customization, removing the limiters on its thrusters.
Even if you would prefer to ignore The Origin, the MS-06S Zaku II was a limited production for unit commanders and other high ranking officials, and *did* outperform the standard Zaku II. There's a lot to be said for having a custom designed weapon that suits (pun unintended) your needs.
Also, Char's mission at the beginning of the original anime was to obtain intel on the new federation weapon. He was sent out in command of a relatively small team and with limited supplies - he had to request backup suits on short notice much to Dozle's surprise. It's unlikely Dozle's fleet had much on hand more than Zaku IIs. Not long after this, he got Garma killed and was suspended from duty for incompetence. When he enters combat again, he wouldn't have been issued a Zaku II High Mobility Type because he was in charge of amphibious forces in Zeon's navy - hence why he was given a Z'gok. By the time he made it back to space combat, given Zeon's (ill advised) rapid rollout of experimental mobile suits, they had already outperformed the Zaku II HMT with the Gelgoog.
I think the easiest answer is he was just never in the right place at the right time .