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I'm not sure why you'd want a Tristan, but you can get one here - amzn.to/2J50L6P
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I will be at Sakura-Con Saturday for several hours at some point.
If you find me, you'll win a prize.
"Yeah, I'm looking for an Orange. it should have two Hands, and maybe a rabbit"
"Are you high?"
This vid is stupid, ofc they recycle them so the leftover piles will not polute the environement
Wow.
Mikey, you're crazy.
@@GurtMcDirt i am crazy XD
I'm glad you're telling the truth here.
Japanese companies can be just as unimaginative and cash-grabbing as their Western counterparts.
The difference here is that Bandai's practices haven't caught up to them yet BUT that "other HUGE sci-fi franchise" in the West is in decline because of the cash-grab mentality.
IE, Star Wars toys are selling poorly because of lack of thought and quality put into them as much as the fact they're based off films that certainly don't excite the majority of the hardcore fanbase.
no thatś always been the case with star wars
We need more Zeon Types. I cannot say this enough. Especially on the MG/RG line.
That is an understatement. Bandai has this problem not making antagonists in the MG line.
9:47 There are *seventeen* P-Bandai varients of the HGUC Jegan!!?
Blimey...
I think that’s just variants in general, not just P-Bandai ones. So, that includes kits like the Stark Jegan and the Jegan ECOAS type.
I really like these hindsight video man, i like the way you present the information and the facts and that you take in consideration that most builders are only builders and not painters and/or modders, i think this is something a lot of peoples forget. Keep up the great work
"kit can be easily modified and painted" yeah. If you have the skills. But imagine a beginner has a specific mobile suit he wants in kit from. You want him to just buy a kit similar in design and mod it to look like said suit with no prior knowledge
While there are a lot of plotholes in Twilight Axis, the construction of the Tristan is not quite how you describe. The Tristan was not built with parts of the Alex, but rather developed with data from the Alex and the Gundam Mk II, and was not actually built on Axis, but on a private colony owned by the Buch Concern (the ones who organized the Birnam Corp. and would eventually back the Crossbone Vanguard)
All of this aside, I agree with you and thoroughly enjoyed the video, thanks for the great upload!
Thanks for the info! It was pretty hard for me to find much background without reading the books in the first place.
The RGM-89 units they operate also c contain features that would later be refined on the Berga line of MS like the Dual optical sensors, the additional targeting sensor over one "eye" , and the beam Lance / rifle leading to Crossbone vanguard's signature shot lancer.
Bandai to modelers is like what EA is to gamers. Nevertheless, I appreciate the fact that Bandai keeps releasing all these Zaku variants from the MSV and Origin line. As someone once said; "You can never have too much Zakus."
@@pilotamurorei Well, it's almost impossible for Bandai to lose their fanbase since they're the primary Gundam licensee and pretty much the only main Gunpla manufacturer. No matter how much I hate how Bandai handle the PBandai releases, I'm still going to buy Gunpla nevertheless.
As for Hathaway's Flash, I'm kind of happy about it. We're getting the HG Gustav Karl (although it's a Unicorn Ver.) so maybe there's a chance that we'll be seeing a HG Me-02R Messer sometime in the future as well. Though I did hear lots of outcry from Gundam fans demanding for Crossbone to be animated instead of Hathaway's Flash. I never cared much for Crossbone tbh. The whole series just rubbed me the wrong way. Maybe it's the mecha design, idk.
@@faizizz4062 well bandai did release free gifts and prizes for modellers and we always have a choice to NOT buy it
@@faizizz4062 Bandai is not just the main licensee, they also own the IP of Gundam
I really enjoy these kids of rants and I really hope you make more in the future. I like the idea of talking about P Bandai its present state, since recently I got pissed off recently after they made the HG Gouf Flight Type and HG Woundwort P-Bandai kits.
Vladimir Mihnea Exactly, should make a good video. It really seems bandai is trying to make gunpla exclusive to japan, perhaps start the second japanese isolationism by looking at the new usual releases(Nearly all of the announced gunpla in december were P-Bandai.). Only if they had a manner to buy directly from them in the west.... nobody would complain anymore.
Will be talking about exactly this next time!
I am one of those builders who want small and/or possible kits ( HG and SD) Plus, it saves shelf storage. Am I the only one like this?
You and me both.
Citrus Yeah
Me too
Yeah.. 1/144 for life
Rg kits too, with the exception of the Sazabi maybe
I honestly thought this would be Bandai's way of making a Revive NT-1 Alex, where the Tristan would be an entirely new mold, then they'd release an updated Alex sometime down the line, similar to how they did the Mega-Shiki, then later came out with the new Hyaku Shiki.
The Tristan may have the exact same price as the older HGUC Alex (1500 Yen), but it's far less value for your money, as the Alex came with optional Chobham Armor, and for the love of God, its arm gatlings don't even deploy like the Alex's does. This kit's a downgrade no matter how you look at it :(
Thanks for this video. I agree that the Tristan is a lot more forgivable than the Deep Striker. But I also agree that they took the worst part of a 15 year old kit, and slapped it into a new kit and called it a new release. It was a just plain poor decision for the Tristan. There were plenty of other kits they could have picked from. An example being the Jegan, which is what at first glance I thought the Tristan was based off of. Another easy one would be even the revive Mk II.
I really thank you though, for what you said about casual modelers. I myself am a casual modeler. I fill in panel lines and paint over nip marks, and that's about all the paining I do if it's not a custom project. I have had a fair few conversations with the elitists of the hobby, so hearing that makes me feel better. This video was very enjoyable. I look forward to more of your discussion videos.
Wow this video was pretty insightful! I can’t believe I missed your other similar video. I’ll go back and watch em 😅
love this new vids it was really entertaining and you also opened my eye about some stuff i just hope you will still do reviews. totally agree on you can buy whatever kit you want if you are happy in the end. :)
Great video, well thought out and not as inflammatory as I thought the title's "rant" implied. I enjoyed the look at the financial aspect of gunpla, its something that often comes up for me because my friends are also into other hobbies like resin figure collecting and tabletop war games. Glad to see more looks at hobbies from this perspective
Informative! You hit all the right notes with me. What you said, especially at the end, is basically how I feel about Gunpla in general. I had fun building my Tristan and tried a shot at modding it. As crappy as people says it was, I still enjoyed it. Thanks for bringing all those points up. Kinda brightens up my perspective of the hobby a ton more.
Please do more videos like this. It was fantastic, and incredibly interesting and informative
I like the diction and syntax you use whilst rebutting or explaining your point of view. Your concise thought process and in depth analysis make your videos much more enjoyable to watch for me, than let’s say someone ‘yelling’ at you for 15 minutes in excitement. Thanks for making these!
Hey, I only just discovered this video now, but man this is some good stuff! This deeper analysis of the forces at play that go into gunpla production and design are really cool and something that not many other reviewers are doing. Keep it up, I'd love to see the video on P-Bandai.
great video and valued input. a future video i'd like to see would be the chances of bandai and sunrise ever animating and producing gunpla of currently non animated fan favorites like those mentioned in this video. also the possible reasoning of making the woundwort a p-bandai as everyone i know practically felt insulted when that happened.
That was really informative!
I like these kinds of vids man, it's really insightful especially since you appear to be really informed on the Gundam lore. I appreciate that very much.
Most of the gunpla youtubers I follow don't really know much about the gunpla their reviewing, or worse they don't really watch any gundam anime ever.
keep this kind of videos coming please, really informative
I got that Titans Byarlant and slapped a couple Hazel shield boosters on it where the tanks go on the Custom and it is AWESOME!
DUDE I LOVE THESE TYPES OF VIDEOS! MAKE MORE!
Love these new videos, keep it up!
Even though I don't always agree with some of your opinions, I really like to see you continue making these videos. It's nice to see someone doing a deeper research on model kits.
Btw, I like the Twilight Axis novel. I think it's a good and interesting story. Also, it provides some kind of answers about what the hell happened to Axis (and probably even Amuro & Char's bodies in future chapters) after the events in CCA and it also gives us some kind of origin of the Crossbone Vanguard. Since the novel is still on-going, I'm sure we'll get even more materials regarding those two aspects. The characters are also nice too. I like the MC pair and Mehmed. Tristan's pilot is also interesting.
I managed to get the Deep Striker and am in the process of building it.
I’m in love with it for some reason
Jesus 17 variants
Very nice video. Quite Informative. The bad thing with variations designs in model kits is you get alot of extra runners from the origninal design. That is part of the DS's high price range. There is SO MANY extra runners and you have to pay for them all.
Having built this kit I can safely say that while some aspects of the retooling do look nice (i.e: the head sculpt), had Bandai dedicated a little more resources into making this retool it could've been a great model kit. I'm still waiting for Zaku Aurelius to complete his trash to treasure project with the Tristan so people can see the potential this kit has to look awesome for any modeler willing to put in the extra effort. It's clear that this kit is made for experienced modelers who are into customization even if it wasn't Bandai's intentions.
I only just got into the gundam plastic model building, but man, there is so much I don't know about this universe that its almost daunting when I see the sheer number of models to build. So far, the only models I have built so far have been the Gundam Wing Endless Waltz Death Scythe and Heavyarms and the original GW series Epyon (With a few Zoids models thrown in since I liked that franchise).. I can say I'm not bad, but I need to probably invest in some stands to hold up the models upon completion. I'm not really a painter, so the only thing I can possibly rely on are any kind of decals kits sometimes offer.
My thoughts exactly about how much people are spending and how little(in this day and age of gun pla) you’re getting back. No LEDs, abysmal color separation on new parts, etc. If I’m paying more than a PG, it better be top notch. This is just a cash grab for the fan boys.
those recycled old kits in the build series are one of the worst offenders. especially the weapons pack that essentially come in single color runners and massive stickers (if they ever come with any at all)
Liking your channel contents, I do wish a little more frequent on gundam plamo, nice work!
I'd really like more of these videos.
I'd really like it even more if the MG Stark Jegan wasn't inevitably going to be P-Bandai.
We don't even know if the normal Jegan will be standard release yet. 🤫
Citrus the normal jegan is obviously gonna be retail though, it's a completely new mg frame. Also there's like 3 variants of the stark jegan alone, so the unicorn version probably will be retail
I'm from the future, PBANDAI Stark Jegan confirmed.
Haha I feel like watching a detective sorting info. Good food for thought. But I would like to see some build or review once in a while also.
Really loving this type of content
you have a point. after i went on a gunpla hiatus for a few years, i just recently came back to this hobby and started to seek out grunt type units like zakus, GMs and tierens simply for their simplicity, and the most "complex" one i've bought recently are just a hg reversible and ninpulse. the last mg i've got, delta plus, was a fun one back then but now i started to feel that that one was a real pain in the ass.
also, EEEEEEEEEEE BUNNIES!!!!!!
Could you do a video on pbandai exclusive such as the woundwort, Gundiver, Pale rider more of the topic of new molds as a Pbandai? Thanks!
Nice video, you're making me want to build more gunpla
Wow awesome job my man i really love the vid it was very educational
Ok, after all of these rants, I need to ask: Do you have a body o you're just a pair of floating hands?
also i tried to put subtitles. nah, maybe another time
Edit: Twilight Axis wasn't after CCA? cause they investigate about some Axis Pieces for what I've red...
Where is the room of model kits footage from? It’s amazing!
It's from two little stores in Shanghai.
hello, new subscriber here. love the video. This been bugging me a lot on bandai decision releasing this kit, the Tristan and Deep Striker.
if you'd make a custom mg or hg kit , could you do a Sniper Jegan ?
Please keep up this thougtful insight format. It´s new and interesting. Plus we´ve already got our fair share of reviewers spinning their Gundam´s heads 360 degrees... (sigh).
As for the "brick kit" critique, it is indefensible. The bare notion to call a model trash because nothing moves or doesn´t stand by is own power is ludicrous. Gunpla are model kits, not toys. Though admittely, Bandai´s amazing engineering does blur that line, on models the emphasis is still on "representation" rather than durabilty and playability. They are supposed to sit on a shelf and look cool for you to admire. As your collection grows, you´ll play less with your models, so in the end, even the most articulate kit ends up as a glorified statue.
That said, I am too of your mindset about the Deep Striker. Although I doubt a beginner would shell out 20000 yen for a try out (hahaha). Deep Striker is a heavily how-much-do-you-like-Gundam Sentinel-taxed cash grab aimed at the hardcore elitist collectors. Bandai expected them to justify the mark up in their own minds, and they did. Bandai didn´t bother to include atractive features for the casual collector. To justify the asking price, aside from the features you mentioned, they could have used slide molding for the long barrel, tool inner frame for the extended parts, and open hatch gimmicks to expose said inner frame. Instead, we got HG armor shells surrounding what little of a MG was left. And with that portion rendered practically inmobile, the benfits of it being the MG drops to zero. This kit would have been better served as a RE/100.
But wait! The shoulder armor slides but a smidgen! It doesn`t reveal any mechanical details, or changes the profile much, but who cares, it moves!!! Forget everything I said, for only 20000 yen, this thing is steal!!! MWAAAHAHAAHAHA!
yeah, the Jegan thing was ridiculous. have always wondered why they haven't done an MG earlier when it's so clear from the HG re-hashes how popular the suit is...
raizen82 bandai doesn't care about mass produce units, look at balls and gm
Continue man,great videos
Good rant I really enjoyed it
Good video. Also, what was that furball at the end there lmao. It's so hairly i couldn't even make out the face
Yes plz!! I think you're the only "reviewer" that has these style of videos
We have the money; we have the technology.
They fucked up.
I like to think that Citrus records dialogue and Hand motion separately, so most of his recording sessions are just moving his hands around
How in the hell did the alex even have enough working parts left to be rebuilt into the tristan(story wise)? And I'm still waiting on a formal reboot of F91 and crossbones gundam
I love this video, please do more like it
Bandai has just been so weird lately I just found your channel and I agree with all your points. Have you talked about the P-Bandai non-sense #JusticeForAOZ
Goes to show just how much people will defend something like the Deep Striker just because it's from a rarely touched upon series' Gunpla wise, like yeah it's special and unexpected but it doesn't save it from being a poor attempt on Bandai's part. Defiantly not worth completely making shit up either.
I was waiting for a new Alex for my Kampfer. But the Tristan is not just lazy, it's not even cheap enough. I only respect the kit moders that improve the overall of the kit, but fuck off to the just paint elites, it's like they want us to treat it like buying a colouring book. LOL!
awesome video!
U should do that pb segment soon, I'm curious about what your opinion versus the almighty elites that praise pb like no tomorrow, can't wait for that
what beginner would go out and buy a PG when they are starting out? thats crazy
I've been at this for years and IMO if bandai can't make a killer HG I'm out. Luckily I've been getting good results lately with the "HGUC/HGCE/HGAC-etc" kits
Me. I set out to buy the PG Astray as my first kit, but there weren't any around at the time, so I settled for the MG instead.
Jiggle my jiggins, I'm buying that MG Jegan.
so jegan is like the toyota camry of gunpla reprints ?
More like the Fiat 500.
11:34 I´m crying
I've seen the Deep Striker for sale in Aus at about $329AUD. Didn't buy it them, until I found one stuck up the back of a store that mainly sells RC stuff. The owner/manager was looking to sell all of his models and get rid of stocking them, so I talked him down to $150 when he had it on sale for $199. Also helped that I purchased another five kits he had there. Paid out $400 for about $750 worth of kits, so I was happy, he was happy that he 'got rid of this dying hobby from his store' (his words), and I finally got the Deep Striker for a decent price.
It's strange that not many MG Jegan variations came out after MG Jegan came out.
Bandai has entered a phase of massive product dilution. Although Gundam is still their cash cow, dedicating production capacity to making low-volume niche products is no longer as profitable as it may have been in the past.
surprised u didnt mention MG The O, which has about the same value as the Deep Striker
MG The-O is 12000 JPY, which is about half the price. Also probably twice the fun, because you can display it in more than one pose.
@@citrusjuicebox u should review it
tottaly an asside but the Bunnies featured in the end of the videos are always adorable
i love the tristan
good vid
Woundwort. . . i want my AoZ
I had more fun setting my Tristan on fire than building it
i like my tristan, it seems like a copy and paste with a little modification, but i like it :)
I found it Informative
0:48 Is that an EX-S GM!?
If so, that's a really cool concept to me. IDKW.
It's a Nero, which is the Sentinel GM. No official kits of it exist, sadly, only action figures.
now I want a tristan
You Will regret it
Needs more Jegan
What about all build fighters kits?
They're a slightly different story, and I'll get to them next time.
Theyre rehash and the market for them is mostly for younger gundam fans. Their prices are fairly reasonable as well.
I just hopping they make all mg 1.0 become 2.0
because the earth already have enough plastic. And dont say me wrong, this reason is the BIGGEST reason.
How bout a discussion with kits that have different names on the box but 100% similar on the parts in the box a good ex would be the 2 wing ew kits , sinanju ova ver and ver ka and some unicorn. Full armor not included.
I think you already named the only examples: Unicorn/Sinanju Ver. KA/OVA, Wing Ver. Ka/EW. I'm not sure if there's much to say there.
well i think it would be a good discussion since recently a friend of mine tag along to buy some kits at our local hobby store and was planning on buying a MG sinanju for his 2nd MG and saw the 2 versions of the kit and ask me which should he get the price on the kits are different with the ova ver a little expensive by 3% compared to the ver ka. and ask me another question why the 2 versions? and i just said printing money which i pulled out of nowhere for a lame reasoning.
Sinanju OVA costs more because it includes the rocket bazooka, which the Ver. Ka does not. The OVA box advertises it pretty clearly.
A lot of gunpla prices in this day and age is high because nobody sells at Market retail price. My guess is Bandai did not have a lot of faith on the Deep Striker returning money, so they sold it as much as they can maximize profits.
Deep Striker fans: Nooooo, you can't justify our dream kit being lazy modified trash by the price tag !!
Citrus: 20k yen re100 is a scam go brrrrr
Where tf are you shopping😂I need to go there
This was two small shops from 6 years ago. Things have definitely changed a lot.
Wait a sec
The anime came before the novel
Is it not pronounced:
Iso-laid?
This has been going on and on about the MG Unicorn. They haven't made a 2.0 for 9+ years now. And THAT SINGLE PART SUCKS
Single part? Which one?
I actually subbed because of this video
A bit biased for Twilight Axis eh? Those no name in house animators did a great job animating it.
I like the hg tristan I mean it
Where all those good videos did disappear? Why haven't I noticed those before? No matter.
Every time I see a shameful Bandai attempt to milk more money, every time I see how this depravity keeps evolving further and further towards obscurity. Don't get me wrong, I like to see unused designs in new light and have nothing against usage of old molds as long as this works. But not in the way Bandai make you take a bite. When I heard of release of Deep Striker MG, I was shocked, pleasantly and disappointing way both. If first was innovative reason, second one was solely a material one. Which of course isn't a secret. Price, shipping expenses and custom fee will kill all good what left in hard-earning enthusiast's heart.
The problem, as you mentioned, that Bandai asks modern price for used, by all means aged, parts! Most likely new mold, 100%, would work almost flawless, but not in this case. Could've that be a premium Bandai release and also poor excuse like low request capacity by customers? I think that would be more understandable and people would really think twice before buying whole thing as NEW item. What really pisses me, except fact that I can't afford it, that people gladly rushed to buy it without any complaints beforehand. Consider this karma? Perhaps. Does it looks good - yeah, does it justify as product - less likely, not for such price. If that would be me, I would gladly buy a PG.
Considering Tristan case, there is also a machinations by Bandai by making ,,new" series supported by ( not so new) releases. What can be better? Half baked anime with half invested efforts in new HG line? Perfect business model! But here's difference between Deep Striker and Tristan. Price tag. If on one you can turn blind eye, then second one as never should've been close to perfect.
Now then, despite old parts on Tristan, you still can make it shine and look good as RG. But you must invest. And invest as a price of good MG value one. Most builders don't mind this. But it depends solely on personal point of view and Bandai knows this. And as always it's purely up to people what they want to do. Personally I do no consider Twilight Axis as original Gundam lore and I'm totally fine by this, tou my rusty gears screech a bit every time I remember Brigham Jegan type. But this is just blind love towards GM types.
Peace. Great stuff as usual.
Its not bad when it cost cheap in my country it cost 35 bucks
My unprofessional opinion is that Bandai is cheap and MG DS is an anniversary cash-grab aimed at fanboys.
Hey, at least the Tristan is better than the dumpster fire that is the HG SEED Freedom( the original not the revive, the revive is amazing)
... Yes, except the HG Freedom came out in 2003, so that's about as fair of a comparison as paper mail to dial-up internet.
Citrus Well yeah, although I meant it it as a how fun is it to build and how the finished product holds up.
Probably because reusing old stuff instead of disposing of it is the spirit of Japan.
its a business after all for bandai... harsh reality but true nonetheless... well as long as we have money then they will be around hahaha "i hate u Pbandai"
It's a cash grab for bandai and a challenge for expert modelers
My complaint with the HG Tristan is that it just ugly. The HG Alex, while old and limited in movement, gimmicks, and part separation, is such a sharp and beautiful sculpt. The Tristan is anything but, looking flat and cheap. Some of this is just down to the art/design I'm sure, but I can't help but feel like they could have done a much better job bringing it into 3D
I think the HG Tristan would have benefited if it was Pbandai and not a regular release hahahaha
Go you for bashing the s gundam 😂I love the damn thing to death, I have 3! but it is a $200 brick, which i decided to pass on, def isnt a priority for me.