@@dlingfasin6826 trinity doctrines is the fabrications of man not in scriptures and there not way that you can describe it as so only going outside of scriptures hence it is a false narrative and a doctrine easily proven by scriptures and historical evidence of its existence
@@dlingfasin6826 seems TH-cam taking away my response, follow false trinity just makes you another false teacher of councils of men in Rome in counterfeit Christianity
@@Zipfreer The Trinity is not only inside the Bible (the creator of this video and every unitarian video in this site are doing olympic levels of mental gymnastics and taking verses out of context to justify their heresy. Arianism was condemned and debunked in the 4th century by the actual church and all christians. Go do your history. Even just calling the early church (the real one) and its teachings ´councils of men in Rome´ screams a profound level of ignorance in the history of the religion you supposedly follow.
Difficult but not impossible. Take for instance the Jews who were tradition enslaved persons. (John 8:31, 32) Then Jesus went on to say to the Jews who had believed him: “If you remain in my word, you are really my disciples, 32 and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” Most of Jesus' first Century disciples were Jews.
What did Thomas call Jesus ? 27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. 28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. 29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed. "my Lord and my God" Did Jesus rebuke him for it ? No, Thomas finally believed.
@@mkovis8587 : AFTER Thomas realized that Jesus was an ANGEL of God, he said what others before have said. Did everyone who were present fall down and worship Jesus after Thomas said what he did? Afraid to look Jesus in the face lest they should perish? (Exodus 33:20) But he added: “You cannot see my face, for no man can see me and live.”
Anyone that reads the New Testament for themselves can come to no conclusion other than Jesus is not God himself. Read the books of the apostles and it is clear they viewed God and Jesus separately and God greater. Glory to Jesus and I personally know how emotionally we can love Jesus because he joined us in our suffering as humans AND Jesus and I have the same Father God! Glory!
Apparently not anyone... 3 Persons but 1 God= The Father, The Son Jesus Christ and The Holy Spirit is the Triune Godhead. Jesus Christ has always existed with The Father and Holy Spirit... Jesus Christ is The Alpha / Beginning and The Omega / End.
@@samuelcallai4209 NLT Bible Matthew 28:16-20 The Great Commission Then the eleven disciples left for Galilee, going to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. When they saw Jesus, they worshiped him-but some of them doubted. Jesus came and told his disciples, I have been given all authority in heaven and on earth. Therefore, go and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. Teach these new disciples to obey all the commandments I have given you. And be sure of this... I am with you always, even to the end of the age.
You speak so nicely and explain things in a simple and straightforward way that is so easy to understand. Excellent work, and thank you for these pearls of truth.
He doesn't explain well, he actually avoids the many scriptures that speak of Jesus as God that is written. Yes Jesus as the Man Christ DID NOT GRASP AFTER The DIVINE PREROGATIVES. He could not, in his role or mode as Son. But Jesus is God ,the only true God as Father as well as the Comforter, maybe reading slowlllly John 14th chap. You can see that.
@@colingr318 The one God is Jesus as to his nature as Spirit. The human b Nature is the Christ the Son . What you fail to see is that Jesus is more than the Son, he is the Father also. If Jesus is called God, then he is as the only true God the Father.Isa. 9:6,John 1:1,14,Jude 25, Zech 14:9, Rev. 19:11-16 ,Rev 1:8 ,11, 4:8, 22:13,16,20 Jn 20:28 The Lord of Me, The God of me, spoken to Jesus and not denied by him after the death of the Christ upon his resurrection, he was God manifest in the flesh. How do you miss that Jesus is the Father and Comforter in John 14:?! How is it you don't know that God is our Father and there is only one God and if Jesus is called God, he is the FATHER! THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD AND THAT GOD BEGOT A BODY OF FLESH, THE CHRIST, The man Christ is Jesus and the Lord God is Jesus. The Father is not a separate or other being, he is the only God and he has the Logos or plan or idea that was with him and was God as one cannot separate one's idea of expression from himself. The Word in time, became flesh and dwelt among us. Jesus is God from eternity and God in Christ, the same Lord and his name is Jesus as he has the Father's name
@@colingr318you seem to be reading backwards yourself. Jesus was fully God and fully human because He emptied himself of His divinity and took on the nature of man unto himself. Unitarians read the Bible with utter blindness and oblivious of the truth that Jesus Christ who did NOT consider equality with God a robbery but emptied himself of His divine nature and took on the nature of a man and even that unto death, death on the cross. You misinterpreted scripture.
John clearly says "In the beginning was logos and logos was with God and logos was God. . . "All things were made through him." "Logos" is clearly referring to Jesus, if you read the rest of the chapter in context. In the Old Testament, God refers to himself as "I AM". In the New Testament, Jesus says, before Abraham was, I AM". Every Jew of the First Century understood that to mean Jesus is God, which is why the religious leaders picked up stones to stone Jesus. Thus, Jesus did say he is God.
Great content, brother. It seems straight forward to me to just accept one Lord and one God. For me, when you simply turn loose of the idea that Jesus HAS to be God, everything clicks. Really enjoyed your interview with Dr. Dale Tuggy as well. Keep up the good work.
This should help. (1 Corinthians 8:6) there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ Only the one Jesus and his disciples address as Father is God. Jesus is a SON of God whom God SENT on a mission. (John 1:34) And I have seen it, and I have given witness that this one is the Son of God.”
@@ntxn9336 "People just don't know their Bible at all." Could be a contributing factor on either side, but certainly not the main issue of why there are differing opinions on this subject. It's not really a valid argument in this case.
@@ntxn9336 : The whole purpose of Satan making Jesus into God was to destroy the value of Jesus' sacrifice (in the minds of people. Not actually though). Hebrews 9:. 24 For Christ did not enter into a holy place made with hands, which is a copy of the reality, but into heaven itself, so that HE NOW APPEARS BEFORE GOD on our behalf. If God sacrificed HIMSELD to pay it to HIMSELF, then it would be similar to someone paying HIMSELF some money. Nonsensical.
Man this is brilliant . I'm not a fan of any Christian Sect. But i have to give respect to the Unitarian Christians. You are a breath of fresh air. Reasonable. Logical and very admirable . No mental gymnastics just straight discussion using reason and logic. Ya'll are awesome
@@gtxoiltastebad I agree with you that all religious aren't perfect. But the way I see it, the people aren't what matters as much as the belief itself! In fact, the Christian worldview explicitly tells us that we won't be perfect. Christian churches are like hospitals for the sick. If you're perfectly healthy you don't need a hospital. We all need churches, imperfect as they are. Maybe God is calling you to do your part to help make them better? I heard a really cool saying that is one of the reasons I stayed in a church; "Not a perfect church, a perfect Saviour".
@@lizzard13666 I agree a house of worship can be very benificial. But it can also be a great tool for the wicked. I'll give you an example. Trinity exists no where in the bible. and was created by the church 300 years after christ. Now a house of worship has turned into a house of control by demonic forces. Now sending a person to this place isn't going to fix him. Its going to make him worse. The church has no right to disrespect God by making trinity when God forbids it in the most important Commandment. The 1st Commandment. In this sense... You can see why the church isn't the best place for clairty . Do you agree?
@@gtxoiltastebad Yeah, I'm a Biblical Unitarian/Christadelphian, and I've spent years studying the various Trinity models, so I'm aware there are problems! That still falls under my previous comment! God doesn't expect us to be perfect, He expects us to be faithful!
It’s so nice to see a new video on this channel. I’m currently in a small bible study group and we are going through the book of John. They are all trinitarians and it’s frustrating sometimes. But I’m there so I can be around others who at least believe in Jesus. The videos on this channel will help me explain to them why I’m a Biblical Unitarian as we continue to study John. Please keep posting new videos. 🙏🏻 🙂
JWs are God's last days' people (Isaiah 43:10). Try studying with them. 'No man has SEEN God AT ANY TIME' (1 John 4:12,20) is very clear. Jesus was never God.
No one has heen his spirit, Tonga.. you have to read in context. Jesus was seen because he became man. You should read these verses: 1 John 5:20, John 1:14, 1:14 (after read 1 John 1:1-2), 1:18, 10:30, Isaiah 44:6, Revelation 22:13, Revelation 1:8, John 12:44-45, Luke 7L16, Exodus 3:14 (after read John 8:58, same words in Hebrew), John 5:23. John 5:31-32 - Philippians 2:3-11 (this literally says Jesus is God). Matthew 7:20-24. The disciples worshiped Jesus: Luke 24:49-53, John 9:38, Matthew 14:33, Matthew 28:9, Matthew 28:17, Matthew 2:11. The Father, Yahweh, says that Jesus is God: Hebrews 1:8-12. Every knee will bow for Jesus: Isaiah 45:23, Romans 14:11, Philippians 2:10-11. Jesus is the Begin and the End, He is God: Revelation 22:12-13 > Revelation 1:8 > Revelation 4:8. @@tongakhan230
@@MelissaK-lh4ig : When John wrote that 'no man has seen God AT ANY TIME' he is obviously talking about a form that humans CAN SEE. Spirits CANNOT BE SEEN ANYWAY. Was Jesus God in a form that humans can see? The answer would probably be YES. Then explain John's statement please? Just citing a load of scriptures???? Unless the Bible has contradictory teachings, we must reconcile all scripture with the above TRUTH. I can help with one scripture at a time if it needs explaining IF it seems to contradict the above truth.
Yes, he was the Christ planned before Abraham. Jesus never claimed to be God. He claimed to be the Son of God. John 10:36 Revelation 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
@@shanederry2691you missed it. "I Am" is the name of the Hebrew God. It's the name God revealed to Moses in Exodus. Translation, Jesus basically called himself God. The Jews understood this and immediately picked up stones to kill him.
@@trich103 No he didn't! The blind man in John 9:9 said "ego eimi" "I Am". Was he claiming to be God? God in Exodus 3:14 said "ego eimi ho on" which is "I am the Being". Jesus didn't say "Before Abraham was, I am the Being. He said "Before Abraham was I am he. Exodus 3:14 Brenton Septuagint Translation And God spoke to Moses, saying, I am THE BEING; and he said, Thus shall ye say to the children of Israel, THE BEING has sent me to you.
@@biblicalunitarian Why is not the simple scriptural picture sufficient? Why is it necessary to go the "Greek metaphysics" to find that the above Scriptures are all very misleading and actually there are three Gods? To make Greek metaphysics and scripture testimony agree, it is said that there are "Three Gods in one." But for those who desire to be guided by the Word of God, the scripture clearly refutes this compromise. It very clearly distinguishes YahushuahaMassiach, the Son of EL ELYON from the One Eternal God of Whom the above quotations speak. This is very important, and is fatal to Greek metaphysics.
@@biblicalunitarianYahushua was tempted; God cannot be tempted: therefore the Trinity theory is false. Let us carefully consider a few of the many statements of Scripture that show the "Trinity" theory to be untrue. John 5:30, "...I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me." This is Jesus speaking. It is perfectly understandable in the light of the scriptural picture that Jesus was a man wholly dependent upon God. But how can it be fitted into the Trinity picture? Let us not run from these clear testimonies, but reverently ponder them, seeking guidance in truth. John 14:28, "...my Father is greater than I." If we believe the scripture, we cannot believe the man-made doctrine that Jesus was co-equal with God. The whole record of the Gospels - the plain, literal record of the life and sayings of Christ is in direct and continuous variance with this doctrine. How could the "co-equal" Trinity theory be more directly denied than it is in these words of Jesus? Can black mean white? Scores of statements could be given showing that Jesus was truly a man, truly fighting against sin, truly overcoming; truly learning, truly praying to the one true God who was greater than he. If Jesus was an all-powerful God just pretending to fight against temptation when really he could not be tempted, just pretending to pray to someone greater than himself for help and strength, then we in effect accuse the whole Gospel record of being a deception and a cruel mockery of man's real weakness, man's real and bitter struggle against sin.
Remeber what jesus said before he bought lazurus back. He said sorry to his father because he spoke of his own initiative, but knew his father would hear him. Jesus basically said his father is the reason he was able to do this, also it shows jesus has his own way of thinking. But back to your question, if jesus said this to the crowd then he basically was showing this was God that did this, not himself, so it makes sense they said God is among us
"God was in Christ reconciling the world to himself" God was in Christ with Christ in his fullness. Just like God is in us now... Doesn't mean us or Jesus was God
@@dbchillin7747 Yes it does. He said, From now on (from this point in his ministry) You do know Him and have seen him. Timothy did not get it. Show us the Father. Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father, how can you say show us the Father. Was Isaiah wrong. His name shall be called the mighty God, the Everlasting Father. Were the angels wrong, Emmanuel God with us. How about John. In the beginning was the Logos, The Logos, was with God, and the Logos was God. The Logos became flesh and made his dwelling among us. and we have seen His Glory.
@@liberatedspirit3554That's an ignorant way of trying to put it. Yes we can be one with God but we can never say when you see me you see the Father. Jesus Christ did. He's the only one who can say that. Jesus is the way to the Father. You and I are not. When you see Jesus you see the Father. To know Jesus is to know the Father. You receive the Father through the man Jesus Christ. He's the only one to see the Father before the world was. So his oneness with God is not like our oneness with God
Trinitarians are taught this doctrine from the start and view scriptures through that lens. But if one simply reads the texts for what they actually say, it’s said over and over that God is the Father, and Jesus is the Lord, his Son. It’s very plainly written. All sorts of mental gymnastics have to done to make Jesus God. And if it’s not answered within the trinity lens, it becomes a mystery. Which means Jesus failed, because he said he came to reveal God.
@@KezzaTianzun Research the grammatical error in that translation. Btw... it wasn't Alpha and Omega... it was Aleph and Tev. Jesus didn't even speak Greek. He spoke Hebrew and Aramaic. Btw... you may also find that that Aleph/Tev is not supposed to be read out loud in the text and not nouns. They're grammatical markers kind of like a comma. Look into it.
Do you read any other passages than a couple per verses when it is speaking of Jesus in his nature as many and actually see the ones that call Jesus God? ...I didn't think so.
@@TheSwordfish009Says the person who pretends they know something about language over people who have done the Greek translations for more days than you have read someone telling you squat. Jesus didn't write this, others who knew Greek dis, so that is shot down. You assume he didn't and where you came up with that is absurd.any He rewa especially in Commerce and Religion knew Greek or enough to speak it. But Jesus wasn't calling himself this, others did . I have come to the conclusion that Unitarians that deny Jesus Deity are a total AntiChrist religion and with out a doubt burn eternally in the lake of fire. They are just as wrong on other doctrines and when you actually see them, they are without any Holiness. You say it wasn't Alpha and Omega, but that simply isn't the facts. You assume none of the Apostles knew Greek and that is a fanciful idea,.
@bobjames3748 every time someone referred to him as God or claiming to be God, Jesus denied it. He said over and over again that he is the SON of God and is subordinate to Him (Yahweh).
The first time I heard of unitarians I freaked out and wanted to study to correct them. Ended up finding your videos wanting to find out exactly what I needed to refute and ended up believing in unitarianism myself 😂 Thank you for your kind way of speaking truth and helping others see the error in their traditions. This channel has helped my family immensely!
Wow, thank you so much! That is so encouraging. Glad I could help. I'd love to hear more of your story, and where your family is at now. Feel free to friend request me on Facebook!
@@biblicalunitarian Alright, thank you! I sent a friend request this morning. Right now we're trying to find a church fellowship. We got kicked out of our church we had been going to, they are staunch trinitarians... We also sent out a brief email to about 15 churches to state our beliefs but where we overlap and wanted to find common ground with other Christians even if we don't agree on everything. The churches we emailed either didn't respond or we are not welcome. Please pray we can find a fellowship near us!
@@MusingMegan But that is not what the Bible teaches, Unitarianism. You are misinterpreting scripture. Jesus IS God and has claimed in all the Gospels. John 8:58 "Before Abraham was born, I am!" Colossians 1:15-20 Jesus is "the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation" John 5:18 Jesus claims to be equal with God. John 10:30 Jesus says, "The Father and I are one". Jesus also claimed the authority to forgive sins and only God can forgive our sins, not man. John 14:9 Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? What would be the purpose of Jesus' sacrifice if He wasn't the Son of God, the second person as part of the Godhead? Just because it doesn't specifically use those terms in the Bible doesn't make them any less valid. So yes, it is heresy to strip Jesus of His divinity which also devalues His position and purpose as part of God.
"Who, existing in the form of God, did not consider being equal with God a treasure to be grasped, But emptied Himself, taking the form of a slave, becoming in the likeness of men;" (Philippians 2:6-7)
Believe Jesus is Christ, Son of God promises eternal life! Once Saved Always Saved! Salvation can NEVER be lost! Jesus Christ died for your sins, was buried, and rose again the 3rd day!
@@shanederry26912 Peter 1:1 ".....our Savior and God, Jesus Christ" John 14:8 the disciples ask Jesus to show them the father. Jesus responds by saying I been with you for so long and you still don't know who I am? I am in the father and the father is in me.
@@trich103 You people are exhausting. 2 Peter 1:1 is ambiguous in wording. So you can't use it for proof of anything. Catholic Public Domain Version Simon Peter, servant and Apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who have been allotted an equal faith with us in the justice of our God and in our Savior Jesus Christ. Aramaic Bible in Plain English Shimeon Petraus, a Servant and an Apostle of Yeshua The Messiah to those who, equal in honor with us, were worthy for the faith by the righteousness of Our Lord and Our Savior Yeshua The Messiah.
Trinitarians believe in one God, with three Persons. There is God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. Three in One. They are not the same person. They all exist at the same time. God the Father is not God the Son, God the Son is not God the Father, God the Holy Spirit is different from God the Father and God the Son. All are divine. All are eternal. All are equal. All are worthy of and receive worship. Jesus is Immanuel, which translated means "God With Us". Jesus refers to himself as "I AM", the same name that God used with Moses when Moses asked who should he say sent him. The reason why the religious leaders sent Jesus to be crucified is because they knew He was claiming to be the Messiah - the Son of God as referenced in the OT. If Jesus was not God in the flesh, the atonement is not sufficient. The Son of God was the term used in the Old Testament for the Messiah. Yes, there is God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. They are not the same person, but they are all divine, all equal in eternal nature, all equal in essence, and all worthy of worship. The Messiah cannot atone unless He is perfect, and sinless. A created being cannot atone for anyone. The atonement would not work, because a created being is by nature a sinner. Also, Jesus received worship many times. Only God receives glory and worship. God will not share His glory with another. However, when Jesus was still on this earth, He asks God to restore the glory He had with the Father in heaven. Jesus humbled Himself. He came in the form of a man, 100% God, 100% man. He added humanity to His divinity. When He speaks of God the Father, He is speaking as an obedient Son, not as a created Son, but as a unique, one of a kind, sinless, perfect Lamb of God. Again, the atonement would not be sufficient to satisfy God's requirement for payment of our sin debt if Jesus was simply a man. All men are created beings and are born with a sin nature. If you don't believe that Jesus is God in the flesh (not God the Father, but God the Son), who do you think Jesus is, and who do you think the Holy Spirit is?
@joannacarlson9481 Your argument hinges on the assumption that Jesus must be divine to atone for sins, but this is not supported by the Old Testament sacrificial system, where animals, not divine beings, atoned for sins. Jesus being referred to as "Son of God" doesn't necessitate divinity, as Israelites and angels were also called "sons of God" in the Bible. Jesus explicitly identifies the Father as the "only true God" in John 17:3 distinguishing himself from God. The Holy Spirit is God's active force, not a person, as it is not described with personal attributes consistently in the scriptures.
Can I just comment on the atonement aspect, on which you make an interesting point. In the Law of Moses the animal offering was to be an unblemished specimen. That is, outwardly without spot. Jesus satisfied this by being sinless, because sin is the blemish or spot which marks us. He could definitely do that while still being a man, because of the important addition, that he was given the spirit without measure (John 3:34). You suggest that a human being cannot atone because of the sinful nature that we have. Yet, that is exactly what Jesus needed to have in order to atone. Let me explain. In order to overcome sin, he had to have something to overcome. If he was God then he wasn't overcoming anything, because it would be impossible for him to sin. In order for sinless to mean anything, there has to be the possibility of sinning. Hebrews 4:15 says that he was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. What does this mean, but that he must have shared our sinful human nature. Because it is our very nature that brings temptation. As James says, 'every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed' (Jam 1:14). So with Jesus, he had the ability and possibility to sin, but didn't. He arrived at the cross as a sinless man, having overcome human nature. This is why we believe on him, because he's done something that no other man could do. And by putting our faith in him we share in his victory over sin. Another relevant verse is Hebrews 2:14: 'Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil'. This again shows how Jesus possessed our sinful nature. He took part of the same as what we have. And for what reason? That by dying he might destroy that which had the power of death. Did he destroy a supernatural being called the devil? No. Nobody destroys another being by dying. The only thing that gets destroyed by death is the body and whatever is in it. Therefore he destroyed the flesh nature that he bore. Our sinful human nature which has the power of death for each one of us. If you have any questions I'm happy to discuss.
Are you also one human with three persons. It doesn't make sense because it's completely senseless and stupid. You change the very nature of God, this is semantics. God is a being who has a mind. If God has more than one mind or personality then it's more than one God. If you have to think to yourselves about something then it's more than one being. God doesn't mean anything with your views.
They really don't it's a complete nonsense. Three separate people with the same authority and attributes but be a type. Like you could get three identical siblings born at the same time. The type would be *Triplet humans* so they could be one set of triplets but they wouldn't be the same entity.
@@gnocchimitpestoundfeta89 Wow! You have an open mind. My brother in law who is a Christian won't even touch it for fear of betraying Jesus. This is called brain wash. I m a Muslim and l have no problem reading the bible.
The Father can't be the son in nature. There are so many simple logical statements for people who actually read the Bible. Many reject Christianity because they say "You have two gods."
It is written - Matthew 24:10-13 Jesus obeys the 5th commandment It is written - Philippians 2:5-8 It is written - John 1:14 It is written - John 14:6 It is written - John 3:16 Praise God! Thank You LORD Jesus for stepping down from your place in glory to put on flesh so that we all can be reconnected to our creator!
The reader of Revelation should keep in mind that what they are reading is described as: i) the revelation of Jesus Christ; ii) the testimony of Jesus Christ; iii) which God gave to Jesus; iv) which Jesus gave to an Angel; v) which John testified to; (Revelation 1:1-2). *Revelation 1:8; Revelation 22:13* “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the LORD God (kyrios ho theos = YAHWEH), “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.” "kyrios ho theos" always applies to YHWH, not to Jesus. That is why translators used "the LORD God....the Almighty." Jesus is never referred to as the LORD God YHWH or the Almighty. The one “who is and who was and who is to come” is defined by a correct understanding of the context. Revelation 1:4 and 5 which reads: *_“Grace and peace to you from Him who is, and who was, and who is to come, and from the seven spirits before His throne, AND from Jesus the Messiah, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth.”_* In Revelation 1:4-5 there is a separation between “the one who was, is, and is to come” and the Messiah. The one “who is, and who was and who is to come” is God (YHWH). People who study Revelation need to realize from the start the following truths and then read on with understanding: i) it's the revelation of Jesus Christ; ii) it's the testimony of Jesus Christ; iii) WHICH YHWH GAVE TO JESUS; iv) which Jesus gave to an Angel; v) which John testified to; (Revelation 1:1-2). So the voice in Revelation 1:8 and 1:11( a contested verse) is an ANGEL conveying to John the words of YHWH verbatim that the ANGEL would also have received verbatim from Jesus. How will God YHWH come? He comes by revealing himself through the person of Jesus Messiah just as He did the first time. "Alpha and Omega" are Greek letters. Neither God nor Jesus are Greek letters. This title belongs to YHWH, not Jesus. Most titles and names are interpreted in a figurative sense, and the context will determine who the title is applied to. Many titles for YHWH are sometimes conferred upon Jesus in the NT. The context determines whether the title is referring to YHWH or Jesus.....but these shared titles do not mean Jesus is YHWH. The phrase “the Alpha and Omega,” is referred to by Hebrew scholars as a Hebraism. It was in common use among ancient Jewish Commentators to designate the whole of anything, "from the beginning to the end." For example: ‘Adam transgressed the whole law from Aleph to Tau'. YHWH is truly the beginning and the end of all things, while Jesus is the beginning and the end because he is the firstborn from the dead, the Author and Finisher of our faith, the Man by whom YHWH will judge the world, and the man responsible for the age of Grace and the Kingdom age to come (see Heb. 1:10). ---------------------------------- *The First and the Last* can refer to YAHWEH in the OT and Jesus in the NT but that doesn't mean Jesus is YAHWEH being referred to by that title. This should be obvious by a reading of Revelation 1:17-18. 17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as one dead. And he laid his right hand on me, saying, “Do not be afraid! I am the first and the last, 18 and the Living One, and I was dead, and behold, I am alive forever and ever, and I have the keys of death and of the grave. YAHWEH was never dead, therefore Jesus is referred to as the first and the last without actually being YAHWEH. The phrase, “the First and the Last,” is a title that is used five times in the Bible, twice in Isaiah in reference to God (44:6; 48:12) and three times in Revelation in reference to the Son of God (1:17; 2:8; 22:13). In the Old Testament, YHWH is “the First and the Last.” Isaiah 41:4, it speaks of YHWH as *"having called forth the generations of men, and was with the first of them and is with the last of them."* Obviously the phrase *“the First and the Last”* is connected with YHWH calling forth the first and last generations. *_“Who has done this and carried it through, calling forth the generations from the beginning? I, the LORD (YHWH ADONAI)-am with the first of them and with the last-I am He.”_* Isaiah 41:4 Do you see that God called forth the generations in the Old Testament? In the NT times, God has conferred that authority on His Son. Thus, it is easy to see why the Lord Jesus is called “the First and the Last” in the book of Revelation. It will be Jesus the Messiah who will call forth the generations of people from the grave to enter in to everlasting life. God gave Jesus the authority to raise the dead (John 5:25-27). In all the works achieved by Jesus Messiah, surely he is the 'first and the last' appointed human prophet to redeem mankind from the power of sin. Jesus is also the "first from among the dead:" *_And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy._* Colossians 1:18 The conclusion is that the title belongs to God himself and he has given that title to His Son. There is nothing in this title that makes Jesus the one true God YHWH. The Bible teaches God is the Father of Jesus Messiah. There is only one YHWH and only one begotten Son of YHWH.
Yes ..Someone who was dead. Rev 1:17 Fear not; I am the first and the last: 18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, The Lord God raised Jesus from the dead.
1 Timothy 2:5 King James Version 5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 2 Corinthians 5:19 King James Version 19 To wit, that God was IN Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
@@tim-lookingforward-scholte1180 ,God did not die, the Son of God the man Christ, died as a kinsmen redeemer. God is Spirit, God is invisible, God is omnipresent, God had no body, save the tabernacle of flesh he begot. Jesus is both the Deity God and the Son of God his Christ/Messiah.
@@bobjames3748 It is just as you said - "God did not die" God did not die for the sins of mankind, Jesus did. Therefore, Jesus is not God. People use the word "deity" to mean anything they want it to mean. Many call angels deity, or the archangels deities. That means nothing in comparison to calling Jesus as if he is the same being as God. How can he be God, the one God, and do things that God cannot, like die? How does Jesus get rid of being God to do that, but gain being God again afterwards? He either is God and he did not die, or he is not God and he died for our sins. The concept of the Trinity was developed by people trying to make sense of all the verses about the Father, Jesus, and holy spirit. But we know more about those verses now. We don't have to do grammatical gymnastics anymore. Jesus is great as the Son of God at the right hand of God over all. He is unified with God because he keeps himself in unity with God. He is living bodily in heaven today and God is inviting people to believe that He raised Jesus out from the dead and to confess Jesus as their Lord in order to receive salvation to themselves.
@@ajaxzaya0991 For sure it makes him someone other than the one God who the Bible calls "God". The word "god" in the English language might be used to describe Jesus in that he is a powerful being who is living in heaven and has everlasting life. Some might use those kinds of things to define him as "a God." Language is difficult at times. But looking at the whole Bible to help interpret the more difficult passages, we have to conclude that Jesus is someone other than Yahweh, the Father, God. The Bible does not include Jesus into the One God of Israel, nor the one God of Ephesians 4:6 in the New Testament.
The Trinity has pagan roots. Worshiping 3 sepearte entities as God is literally polytheism. God commanded in the OT we shall not worship any Gods other than him. The Trinity doctrine was made by 3rd century Greeks on the order of the ex-pagan emporer Constantine.
Spirit & Truth brother! I prayed that God would remove all lie & preconceptions and give me His spirit and truth and He always showed me Bible scriptures that confirmed that Jesus is the son of God not God the son. He sits at the right hand of the Father. God is spirit, Jesus is a man born of the spirit.
I have a question dear brothers and sisters. In the film The Chosen, there is a part there where Jesus says "I am The Law of Moses." What does that mean?
Jesus never says, "I am the Law of Moses." I assume it is some creative thinking from the Chosen to play on the seven "I am" statements of John. I assume they would be meaning that Jesus fulfills the Law of Moses.
Jesus is also a man on Mary's side and was born of the holy spirit on God's side. This makes him the ONLY begotten son of God. Jesus is also God, for "in him live all of the Godhead, bodily."
@@freedomtracksrecords4452 you're appealing to the antecedent to say this is speaking of jesus. That interpretation would imply Christ is actually antichrist according to the same author 2 John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. You cannot change who God is according to what you believe
@@freedomtracksrecords4452 You're appealing to the antecedent to say it's speaking of Jesus. That interpretation implies Christ is actually antichrist according to the same author (2 John 1:7) You cannot change who God is, regardless of what you believe.
Thats right. And he called himself a "son of man" which reflects his origins in Eve, the source of all mankind. Gen3:15. "the SEED of the woman shall bruise the head of the serpent."
John clearly says "In the beginning was logos and logos was with God and logos was God. . . "All things were made through him." "Logos" is clearly referring to Jesus, if you read the rest of the chapter in context. In the Old Testament, God refers to himself as "I AM". In the New Testament, Jesus says, before Abraham was, I AM". Every Jew of the First Century understood that to mean Jesus is God, which is why the religious leaders picked up stones to stone Jesus. Thus, Jesus did say he is God.
@@freedomtracksrecords4452 Well the gnostics claim that the Logos a demigod, made the creation, but another angle is "logos" is simply the greek word for the english "word" and a definition of either is "a spoken or written communication." As i have repeatedly pointed out God spoke the creation into being with a spoken word, and promised a messiah from Israel throughout scripture, and scripture is written in words and preached in words. So why keep using an untranslated greek word amongst translated english words when you make this claim. Its either to sound religious or mysterious, or you are Gnostic. ?????
@@ken440 I don't care at all what Gnostics claim. "In the beginning was logos; and logos was with God and logos was God. John goes on to clearly identify Jesus as logos. The Greeks understood that Logos means God's universal and beyond view; ultimate truth and wisdom. Only God has God's universal and beyond view.
@@freedomtracksrecords4452 I was trying to jolt you into switching your brain on. You are simply using "logos" to sound holy. Its greek, it simply means "word" and so why do you only use greek for that single word, why not put write all of John1:1 in greek? All of Gods intent and wisdom was in His logos spoken in Gen3:15 when He promised one of Eves decendants would destroy the corrupt rebellion of ha satan. (note i am doing what you are doing, i am using hebrew for the satan, which simply means "advesary") God spoke that logos as a promise of redemption of corruption by the satan. God spoke with words, logos, in Deut18:18 in promising a descendant of the people of Israel (so far both humans) will be the great one who God will work THROUGH speak THROUGH. Its all spoken, promised in "words" which in greek is "logos" (because the writer of John1 used greek language) and in the course of time that promise spoken in Gods strong wisdom words, became true, was born, one of the flesh and blood dudes as promised all over Gen, Deut, prophets, all scripture, OT, which is all recorded in words (logos) and Jesus points this out in a few places (e.g. jn8:40) And Peter points it out (Acts2:22). Your use of "Logos" showing you are trying to make it something greater than its language understanding, that of a spoken or written communication. That is known as INFLATION OF PIETY. And that is religion at its worst, twisting meanings, creating heirachies and laity, the work of the nicolatans. be careful brother/sister. This trinity idea might be gnostic influence from the church fathers in the centuries following the hebrew born apostles.
For much of Christianity, it seems like truth is a social convention. What the majority across history have said MUST be true, so they invent a holy spirit (that is not God's Holy Spirit) to justify by a hand-wave the ignorance of the majority, all the while ignoring Jesus's words: "Enter by the narrow gate, for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to Life, and there are few who find it."
I got the first like! Thank you for responding to YHVH's prompting and doing this work. You managed to find a perfect spirit in your delivery; calm, knowledgeable, endearing, yet factual and to the point. My own personality would add 1 more step - instead of just "thinking for a sec" it would be, reorganizing our faith and repenting. on one hand, we can claim ignorance, however innocent, idolatry is why the greatest commandment exists, the sh'ma, and not a small matter.
This video does very well, like many others explaining this issue, it is so clear it makes trinitarians into complete knuckleheads to not see this. To not think through the logic presented. Added to what is said here, all the references made here to "Christ" are saying "anointed" or "anointed one" as "christ" is derived from greek 'christos" which means "anointed." This actually to me points to dishonesty in translation. Everywhere we see Christ we should see Anointed, in context to text. But translation way back in religious church terminology turned the greek word for "anoint" into a religious name, and Luther didnt fix that detail, so its stuck in the craw of churchianity. Those verses read out here, like 2Cor5:18 "but all this is from God who reconciled us to Himself through Christ" and in that its true meaning is ".....reconciled us to Himself through the anointed" and we ask ourselves "anointed what" and it is super obvious, as an offspring Of David as promised, the messiah, that this "christ" means the anointed son of David, the promised Messiah !!" All kings are "anointed." All the explanations here about Jesus representing, imaging, saying and doing what God did through him are meaning just that, Jesus is doing this and saying all this in book of John, through Gods ANOINTING !! Its all so obvious that it staggers me the trinitarian majority is so blind, and it can only be a spiritual blindness brought on by their own stubborn inability to truly seek truth, but they only subscribe to church doctrine without that personal "seek out your (own) salvation with fear and trembling." Something that after nearly 40 years as a trinitarian, just the same in accepting denominational dogma, I began to do 6 years ago, and it all just exploded into plain view. I had complacently let others tell me what verses meant, like that Jesus is God, lies every one. !! Wake up trinitarian who slumbers with only part truth, time grows short. Dont rely on your majority position, it is very unbiblical for a majority to be in the truth!
Good points. I would just add that God demands that we practice and speak the truth whether it be popular or not. If we look at the majority of created beings it may be that most are actually loyal worshipers of God. (Taking into account the numerous spirit beings that exist and outnumber the ones who satan (resist) God.) Even though it is wonderful and joyous to know and worship God in an orderly assembly of others who do so, each one must render an account to God on their own. Great job on allowing understanding to come and studying scripture deeply and honestly.
❤❤Good and yes the ANOINTING is His Holy Spirit. Yahweh is Spirit. So the ONLY HOLY SPIRIT is the Father. Now we are GETTING SOMEWHERE Luke 4:18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised... Isaiah 61 1The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound; I would like a TRANSLATION where Christ is TRANSLATED anointed.
God humbled himself and BECAME man. And he set the example for man by making statements like this. Jews always wanted this boisterous God but in reality God humbles himself by becoming his own creation and truly understanding and guiding them. Do not be deceived. Cheers. Jesus Christ is God incarnate.
We are in the last days so false teaching is ALL over the internet. The attack on the Deity of Christ is on par for the enemy. The false church and counterfeit Christianity is EVERYWHERE. It ALWAYS starts with attacking the incarnation.
Beautiful and simple way to explain the deity of Jesus while He was on this earth. And I do not ever recall Jesus denying that He is God. He diverted the attention away from Himself and to God the Father so that we might know He (Jesus) IS God in the flesh. He states in both Mark 10:18 and Matthew 19:17 that there is none good but God. But, we all agree that Jesus is GOOD.
I have a thought. We know scripture says Jesus is seated at the right hand of the Father but nowhere are we told the Father is seated at the left hand of Christ. 😉 God is much much greater.
Yeah you're right, Father is greater than the Son 1 Corinthians 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
@@mcandler_the_unscottish What ignorance the unitarians will have a ND they cannot understand the dual nature of Jesus as the God and man. You cannot see Rev.22:1,3-4 and grasp what it is saying, or Zech 12:10 or that our saviour is God and Jesus is spoken as our saviour, so then we would have. Isa 62:11. Why you a kid seeing Jesus called both Lord and God in John 20:28! You people cannot understand that Jesus is 100% man and this would not grasp after divine prerogatives and call himself God as such, but would not deny those who understood he was Deity. You tell me what Rev.22:1,3-4 means ? I think because of your sins and not believing the Bible correctly and denying his full deity miss that He is Lord God Almighty in Rev. 4:8.
John 20:28-29 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed. How would you explain this?
““My Lord and my God!” Thomas exclaimed. Then Jesus told him, “You believe because you have seen me. Blessed are those who believe without seeing me.”” John 20:28-29 NLT
Even a fool need not to error therein, when we read what is written, and not come in with our preconceived denominational theories, then we see God’s Word in all its glory and simplicity. Our God and Father rejoices when He is established as the one and only God and Creator and when Jesus Christ the Son is given His place as Redeemer and Lord over the Creation, seated at God’s right hand, who is soon returning as King of Kings and Lord of Lords! Great teaching and sharing. Thank you!
John clearly says "In the beginning was logos and logos was with God and logos was God. . . "All things were made through him." "Logos" is clearly referring to Jesus, if you read the rest of the chapter in context. In the Old Testament, God refers to himself as "I AM". In the New Testament, Jesus says, before Abraham was, I AM". Every Jew of the First Century understood that to mean Jesus is God, which is why the religious leaders picked up stones to stone Jesus. Thus, Jesus did say he is God.
@@freedomtracksrecords4452 Dont know why some people are blind to this. they think too much materialistic or physical world, instead of spiritual I guess. Three in one, Not three different Gods, But all three One God.
@@garywinslow7595 John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. Yes the greek is logos, translated to word in english as we obviously see, but Jesus is the Word of God. Revelation 19:13 says his name is called the Word of God.
@Thrasher796 You grossly misunderstand the intended meaning. The Logos is explained in scripture what it means. That Logos became flesh meaning it was fulfilled in the flesh of Christ because Christ expressed the Father and eternal life with Him. Before Christ was born, the Logos was God's expression or plan for us. It was not a 2nd person. 1John 1.1-3 explains this. You are ASSUMING the meaning based on human reasoning.
@@garywinslow7595 in John chapter 1 the Word is not just merely just a plan expressed through Jesus’ life. Its refered to as a he(a person) that all things were made by him. Colossians 1 attests to this as well that all things were made by him and for him
@@garywinslow7595Well yes the Word was fulfilled in a human bc the Word literally became human. Before Jesus had the title Son of God he was the Word of God. The speech of God the emotions of God. When the Word became flesh the Word was the expressed personality of God. The Word never stopped being God even when he became flesh.
27Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. 28And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. So the question is: When Thomas and the other disciples saw Jesus did they see God? A number of years after John and the other disciples were in the room when the Risen Savior appeared, John wrote his Gospel. (John1:18) No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. And (1John 4:12,13) No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.13Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit. (1Tim.6:16) Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
Thomas said “My Lord and My God”, Yet John who was also in the room with Thomas said ”No man hath seen God at any time”. Is there a contradiction here? The Bible does not contradict itself, scripture explains scripture. (John 14:7-11) If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. 8Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. 9Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? 10Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.11Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake. (John 3:34) For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him. Therefore Jesus had the Spirit of God dwelling within him without measure, Jesus was not by himself, God was dwelling within him, so there is no contradiction, Thomas was correct because he remembered Jesus' teachings, and John is also correct. If we want to see God and to know what He's like, see Jesus because he is the image of the Father, with The Father dwelling within him in full measure, But we should also be able to see God in each other because we are the temple of the Holy Spirit. (Matt.5:14-16) 14Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.15Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.16Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. When the disciples saw Jesus they could see God dwelling within him, That's why Thomas was able to say “My Lord and my God” without contradicting the scriptures.
So therefore when people see us they should also see God within us. Praise God!
Please explain how Jesus was given all authority and judgement when the Bible tells us many times, i.e., 43:11, I am God, only I am God, and there is no savior beside me. God tells us in Isaiah, I will not give my glory to another.
When it says he will not give "His" glory that means the glory of God. Jesus is never given the glory of God, but he is given glory, just as Christians will also get glory at the resurrection (Col. 3:4; Heb. 2:10). Getting Glory does not make you God.
@@sharononeill6477 Think of Joseph betrayed by his brothers, then raised by egypts pharaoh. Its a foreshadow. Joseph brings a message to his brothers. His brothers resent him and figurativly kill him. He ends up a humble slave servant in a prison. Pharaoh raises him. Pharaoh seats him at pharaohs right hand, for rulership in a coming time of trouble. Pharaoh gives him all power and authority in the whole nation from Pharaohs right hand (except over pharaoh himself) And Joseph is NOT Egyptian! Joseph deals wisely with the problem. Joseph blesses Egypt as 2iC. Joseph forgives and saves his brothers. Joseph sets his family up in a place of refuge. Joseph isnt egyptian. Jesus isnt God. Both obedient lowly servants with a heart to bless. All for a period of time. a time of trouble. Read 1Cor15:28. there we have Paul looking forward to the end of the "day of the Lord" the end of the worlds future time of trouble, to a point at end of millenium kingdom, when Jesus GIVES BACK THAT LORDSHIP that he was given in Acts2:36. So that God can AGAIN be all in all. Gods Edenic purpose restored and advanced, spiritual rebellion defeated. By a humble lowly servant that God empowered and trusted to the task. Hope that helps you see the bigger picture.
YAHWEH alone created the Universe. Jesus was given authority to create the spiritual conditions, principalities, and powers to govern his followers. Colossians 1:16 has nothing to do with the Genesis creation. "ALL" is not used in the universal sense in this verse. ALL things are defined in the text itself. Go read it again. Jesus is the Word? PROVE IT from scripture. The KJV translators gave no reason for turning "ho logos" into a proper noun and name.....and Jesus isn't even mentioned in John 1:1. NOWHERE is Jesus ever referred to as the word. An Exegetical Commentary on John's Prologue PART 2 by Don Smith.
John 1:1 *In the beginning WAS THE WORD (HO LOGOS)* Greek word Logos: a word (as embodying an idea), a statement, a speech. Logos is a common Greek term that is used 330 times in the NT. The popular view in John's day was to define the logos as words and the thoughts behind the words expressed through speech, writing, a message, news, architecture, or works of art. LOGOS was a Greek word used hundreds of years prior to the birth of Jesus. Logos was used by philosophers to mean ‘the active reason of the creator behind the universe’. The writer of the prologue uses the definite article "ho" (THE) meaning God's Logos (word). "By the word of the LORD were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth. He gathereth the waters of the sea together as an heap: he layeth up the depth in storehouses. Let all the earth fear the LORD: let all the inhabitants of the world stand in awe of him. For he spake, and it was done; he commanded, and it stood fast." Psalms 33:6-9 Quote: "The Greek language is a gender based language, therefore a Greek reading verses 2 to 14 will not read these verses and understand houtos and autos as referring to a person. Houtos and autos point back to "the word" which is an object. Since ho logos is a masculine word in Greek, and there is no Greek word for the English preposition "it," when translators come across autos and houtos as pointing to an object and not a person, "it" conveys the correct meaning to an English reader." ~Jean-Philippe Parent It is incorrect to insist that "pros" points to another person (Jesus) as having an eternal preexistent relationship with YHWH. What John is telling us is exactly what the Bible teaches: the Gospel is of the same eternal and divine substance as what YHWH is. There is an eternal relationship between YHWH and His word without the word being the person of Jesus. In John 1:1c there is no definite article before theos. Since there is no definite article used here while there is a definite article in 1:1b (ton theon) which actually points to (ho logos) as being in fact the same as God in Nature. Hence, in 1:1c it is correct to translate to English as follows: "and divine [theos] was the word [ho logos]." Both God and His word are the same in nature: spirit, eternal, divine, light, life. The word of God is God's word. "Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever." Psalms 119:160 Revelation 19:11-13 specifically says that God's name is the word of God. "And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God." Here we see that the rider on the white horse cannot be Jesus because the rider bears a name that no one else knows but Him. That excludes Jesus from being the rider. Only YHWH can know something no one else knows. Jesus cannot know things that YHWH says only He knows. The expression “the word of God” appears 5 times in Revelation and numerous times throughout the Bible. It almost always refers to a message from God with the exception of Revelation 19:13 where it is used as a name for YHWH. Everywhere else "the word of God" is a message from God, His spoken word, or the written word of God. The Bible never refers to Jesus as the word ("HO LOGOS.") The word of God is what God is, and what he speaks. Rather, Jesus claimed to be the messiah through whom YHWH chose to reveal Himself and His logos (the Gospel) to the world. The logos of John 1:1-5 and 1 John 1:1-6 is the Gospel message, not a person. "Beloved, I am not writing a new commandment to you, but an old commandment that you had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word that you heard.: So, 1 John 2:7 has the writer referring to back to 1 John 1:1 "that which we seen, heard, etc. in the beginning" and refers to it as a commandment, not Jesus. Jesus is not a commandment, and not the word. Jesus said: "these words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me." (John 14:24) Also SEE John 7:15-18; John 8:28; John 12:49-50; John 14:10. The belief that "the word" is the person of Jesus comes from pagan mysticism and philosophy. The eternal word of God becoming the begotten mortal Jesus causes numerous conflicts throughout the Bible. God and His word are never referred to as BEGOTTEN or BORN in the Bible. In the Hebrew Bible the word "dabar" is used instead of logos. Dabar in the Old Testament is never a person or spokesman. Dabar is a message, promise, command, word, or the thoughts behind the words. No lexicon of the Hebrew Bible lists dabar as a person, God, angel, or man. The dabar, or word of YAHWEH is his possession, and never a person in the Hebrew Bible. The same can be said for the Greek Bible when referring to the logos or word of God. The logos is the Good News a.k.a. the Gospel of the Kingdom (Luke 3:2 and Luke 4:43) preached by John the Baptist and Jesus from "the beginning" of the NT Age. Biblical Evidence: 1. ACTS 10:36-39 "You know the message (logos) YHWH sent to the people of Israel, announcing the good news of peace THROUGH Christ Jesus, who is Lord of all. Here we see the message described as the good news sent to the people of Israel through Jesus. Peter does not say Jesus is the word. 2. LUKE 3:2 "The word of God came to John the Baptist and he went around Judea preaching a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins.." 3. Romans 10:8-9 "But what does it say? "The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart," that is, the message concerning faith that we proclaim: If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved."
4. Romans 10:17 "Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of GOD." 5. Romans 1:16 "The Gospel message is the power of God that leads men to salvation." 6. 1 Corinthians 1:18 "For the word (logos) of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of GOD." 7. Romans 1:16 "For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile." 8. 1 Corinthians 15:2 "By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain." 9. 1 JOHN 1:1-3 "The gospel declared from the beginning is referred to as "the word of life." 10. Philippians 2:16 ".....as you hold firmly to the word of life." 11. John 6:63 "....the words I speak are spirit and life..." 12. Therefore many of his disciples, when they heard this, said, “This is a hard saying (ho logos); who is able to hear it (autos)?” John 6:60 CONCLUSION: "The word" in John 1:1-5 is the Gospel, the word of life, the light that enlightens those who receive it, the message preached by Jesus from the beginning. Through Jesus God revealed the Gospel message (logos) to humanity. The word enters into, and dwells in, all those who hear it and believe. Question to all believers: What verse in the Bible establishes Jesus as ho logos (the word) in John 1:1?
The word of God is and always will be God's word because it's integral to Him. God's word is His word the same as a person's word is their word.....but even more so when it comes to God and His word. JOHN 1:14 *WHY THE WORD DID NOT BECOME FLESH.* NOTE: Rules of Greek grammar don't apply when the conclusion results in conflict with essential doctrines to our salvation. Knowing who YHWH is, who Jesus is, and who Paul is and what they taught, are all essential to our salvation. I have preserved the Greek text and translated it word for word into English to be compatible with John's Gospel, and the rest of the Bible. The Greek word "egeneto" can be, and sometimes is, translated as "came to" in the Bible. See part 7 for examples. Egeneto has a broad array of uses in the Bible and according to Lexicons it is translated with great latitude. That means the context has to be carefully considered. If an English word is chosen that conflicts with the Bible then it must be discarded. In the context of John's prologue, his Gospel, and the entire N.T., translating "egeneto" as "became" results in conflict with the Bible, whereas "came to" works perfectly with the entire Bible. Greek text: "kai ho logos sarx egeneto kai eskēnōsen en hēmin kai etheasametha ten doxan autou doxan hōs monogenous para Patros plērēs charitos kai alētheias." My compatible English translation: "and the word came to humanity and dwelt in us, and we beheld (perceived it with our minds) it's glory, (a glory like that of the only begotten of the Father), full of grace and truth." THE GLORY was "like that of the only begotten of the Father. This means similar to that which they perceived was at work in Jesus. It does not mean "is Jesus." Consider John 17:22-24; and 2 Corinthians 4:6. No one could truly behold, understand, perceive, contemplate, or know what it is like to be Jesus, or to be the Glory of God, or to be the only begotten sinless Son of God....but we can experience the glory of YHWH's word working in us....the same word and glory that worked in Jesus. John is telling us that the same word of God that was at work in Jesus entered into him and the disciples when they heard and believed the words Jesus taught them. They experienced it's transforming effect on their hearts and minds. They experienced the Grace and Truth working in them. That's the "glory" referred to. The traditional translation of John 1:14 conflicts with: Deuteronomy 18:18; 1 Kings 21:17; Jeremiah 1:4; 1 Chronicles 17:3; Hosea 1:1; 2 Chronicles 12:7; Genesis 15:4; Genesis 15:1; Ezekiel 6:1; Jeremiah 1:2, 11; Jeremiah 13:8; Mark 1:1; Mark 1:11, Luke 3:2; Luke 9:35....and many more scriptures. The Bible does not support the traditional translation of John 1:14. "....I will raise them up a prophet from among their brothers [Israelites], like you [Moses], and I will put my words IN HIS MOUTH [Jesus] and he will speak to them [Israelites] all that I command him. Deuteronomy 18:18; also see Acts 3:22 The word of God was to be placed into Jesus by YHWH Himself. That means the word of God could not have become the flesh of Jesus. No other verse in the Bible conveys the idea: "the word became flesh" (Jesus). "Flesh" in this context is referring to "humanity; (everyone, all people, or mankind) and not just one person. Jesus did not die to save himself. He died to save humanity. Check Acts 2:17 where Peter quotes Joel 2:28 where the Greek word "sarx" in many translations is rendered as human kind, humanity, all the people, etc.. Other translations use "flesh" but the meaning is "all of humanity." Paul also uses flesh as a reference to all of humanity where he states: "no flesh is justified by the works of the law" (Romans 3:20; Galatians 2:16). The writer of the prologue moves the reader to focus on the entrance of God's word into the hearts and minds of people where it transforms them, which effects the complete flow of human activity and affairs (when enough people believe it). John 1:14 is a summary of YHWH's purpose behind the the NT Gospel, which is to fulfill prophecy by having His word and spirit dwell in people to sanctify, justify, enlighten, transform, and give them eternal life.
John 1:14 cannot be translated to conflict with Deuteronomy 18:18, or any other verses in the Bible. YHWH prophesied "My spirit will be in you and My laws will be written in your hearts. (Jeremiah 31:33). Jesus stated the words he spoke are spirit. John 6:63 Words don't become flesh. Words are spirit. Spirit does not become flesh. John 3:6 Spirit enters into the heart and mind and is expressed vocally, in the form of a creative work of art, in a written work, or some form of expression. If the word of God is not in you, then the spirit of God is not in you.
@@johnspartan98 Revelation 19:11-16 "The Rider on a White Horse" 1. Jesus Christ is identified as the faithful witness in Revelation 1:5, He is also the truth according to John 14:6. 2. The Lamb is identified as the Lord of lords and King of kings in Revelation 17:14 Thus, without any doubt, the Word of God in Revelation 19:13 is indeed Jesus Christ. By the way you said Romans 1:16 "For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation.." compare it with 1 Corinthians 1:24 that literally says "Christ is the power of God and the wisdom of God." Is it just a coincidence between Romans 1:16 and 1 Corinthians 1:24?
Jesus would never put himself into his fathers position. But one thing to keep in mind is what Jehovah's Witnesses have been saying for over 100 years, and it is the fact that the Hebrew word for God is Elohim, and we need to understand that in the Bible the word for God is "Elohim" and means "Mighty ones" Now in today's modern language we have restricted the word "God" to mean the "almighty" basically the creator, but that was NOT so in the Bible days ! And I will show you. For example did you know that people, kings and judges in the Bible were CALLED Gods ? To illustrate, Psalms 82 says: (now this is God speaking) 1 God takes his place in the divine assembly; In the middle of the gods* he judges: And Vs 6 “I have said, ‘You are gods, All of you are sons of the Most High. Did you notice how even Jehovah calls them "Gods" and HE says "I have said "You are Gods" ......so the question is HOW were they Gods ? And when we have come up with the answer to that, then we will answered the question "How can Jesus be a God " ! Did you know Moses too was called "God" so was not that polytheism ? So if God can give the title of God to angles and people then WHY can't he give the same title to his son?
Hi! You might want to check in the Original Hebrew text for Psalms 82 whether, the word 'God' is g or G, like-wise Isaiah 9 & Hebrew 1. It's all upper case letter. And in the Bible, the's no where Moses, or the angels are Authorized to be worshipped. Lastly, Isaiah 45:6,18,21-23 God keeps saying;'There's no other god'
Jesus says, "I and the father are one." John clearly says "In the beginning was logos and logos was with God and logos was God. . . "All things were made through him." "Logos" is clearly referring to Jesus, if you read the rest of the chapter in context. In the Old Testament, God refers to himself as "I AM". In the New Testament, Jesus says, before Abraham was, I AM". Every Jew of the First Century understood that to mean Jesus is God, which is why the religious leaders picked up stones to stone Jesus. Thus, Jesus did say he is God.
Wrong, the Jews who knew the language and were not pretending like J.W. to know language and make up their own sayings. Elohim never meant a plural of beings but a plurality of attributes and power. Jeh. WItneases are not saved, cannot be in the error they are in. Charles Taze Russell was shamed in court regarding his ability to read any languages of the Bible. The false dating of events out them in the false prophet category and lands then in hell
The bible clearly describe God as Lord and Jesus claim he is the Lord. So it seems very clear that Jesus is God in human form. And because he is in human form, he is very dependent on God the father. He has to pray to the father just like every human, and be dependent on the father for every instruction day after day. Now why did God decided to do it this way. Maybe it's to set an example on how to truly follow God with all your heart soul and strength.
@@christophercano4809 He gave up his Godly powers but not his character. Hebrews 2:9 But we do see Jesus, who was made lower than the angels for a little while. I use to believe that since Jesus is God himself he can create another universe if he wanted to. But as I kept reading the bible throughout the years. I learned that is he not omnipotent like God. But the bible does say Jesus is the one who did create the universe... Colossians 1 -15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. -16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him.
@@gabbie921Exactly. The greek term kyrios replaced YHWH in both the OT and NT which led people to equate the two. I sympathize with people that have been confused by this
Why would anyone call Jesus God? Jesus was God's Envoy. People who can believe that God was man who could get himself killed needs to come to terms with reality. The Jews knew Exodus 33:20. Setting eyes on God would spell death.
Very clear from Scripture that Jesus is NOT God, but fully MAN. Just as the first Adam was, so also the last/second Adam. MAN. And that man had/has a God. That means that Jesus is NOT God. So simple.
So you even read the Bible or have some Unitarian lying mess of a minister spout that to you? I have posted to several people scriptures that a blind man can see Jesus is God, not from him declaring as the man Christ and grasp after divines as the Son and Christ. But in others in Revelation for 1:8 Rev 4:8 Rev22:13,16, Jude 25, John 14th Chapter exposes your doctrine but Just like Trinies , you people miss what Jesus says about Being the Father in a enigmatic speech and the Comforter. Unitarians were part of the Arian monstrosity that denied Jesus as fully God though plenty is scriptures show it.
Jesus is God, do not be led astray Philippians 2:5-11. ~ Paul explains to the church that Jesus did not find it robbery to be equal with the Father, but chose to come down as a bondservant. Also Luke 4:41 ~ Jesus was healing many from divers diseases and many demons came out of these people, even the demons were afraid of Jesus knowing He was the Son of God. All throughout scripture of the N.T Jesus has done many miracles, a man does not have the ability to do that unless He was Holy and had the authority of God Himself. No man is sinless but Jesus, How would a man be born sinless and remain sinless? Yet even legion which means many demons were casted from a man by Jesus power and yet they begged Jesus to put them in swine because they didn’t want to be destroyed for ETERNITY, if Jesus was just a man the demons would not be so fearful. Only God has the ability. Also through scripture Jesus chose to forgive many who have sinned and also healed them. Luke 7:40-48 ~ Mark 2:7 (Pharisees knew that only God can forgive sin) Revelation 21:3-8 (God says He is the alpha and the omega, the first and the last) -> Revelation 22:12-16 (Jesus says He is the alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last) ~ Why would Jesus claim that? Isaiah 44:6 (God says He is the first and the last and beside Him is no God) -> Revelation 1:17-18 (Jesus makes that same statement, after He was resurrected, aren’t you going to believe the man who resurrected after being clinically dead 3 DAYS) Isaiah 41:4 (not the only scriptures where God says He is the first and the last and yet Jesus said that’s who He is) Revelation 2:8 (says He is the the first and the last again) Isaiah 42:8 (He said He will not give His glory to any other) -> John 16:14-16 ( Jesus claims that God will glorify Him; DEFINITION of Glorify is To give glory, honor, or High praise to. He also said all things the father has are His and even said that the people would not see Him because He was going back to the Father) Isaiah 43:10-13 (God said that before Him was there no other God formed and neither shall there be after Him which states God has just always been. He also said that beside Him is not savior, and before the day was, God was always there) -> John 3:16-17 (God sent His ONLY Begotten; DEFINITION of Begotten is naturally exists, so Jesus wasn’t just created by God so it’s His son, no Jesus already existed before He came to Heaven that’s another reason why it says Jesus was SENT so through HIM we would be SAVED, If God said there is no savior beside Him then what would that make Jesus… GOD) -> 2 Peter 3:18 (Peter says that Jesus is our LORD & SAVIOR and then says glory goes to Him both now and FOREVER) all over scripture it says Jesus is our lord and savior, that can’t be hidden we know this. John 14:6 (Jesus says He is the way the truth and the life, no man cometh to the father but through Him, why would Jesus just call Him the father if He wasn’t apart of the GodHead? Wouldn’t He just call Him God? Yet again He does say that neither does He or the angels know when the time of the end shall come but the Father, but He also was limited to a human beings body and yet wasn’t fully God, He came to not receive praise from men but to give praise all to the father because yet again Jesus was half man. John 14-19 1 Timothy 16-17 Also read John 4 (Talks about the woman at the well)
It amuses me how people try to use John to prove Jesus is not God. When John is the book that presents most strongly that Jesus is God. Right from the opening verse, Jesus (the Word) is God.
@@biblicalunitarian You made a point there that John 1:1 says the Jesus is divine and that Jesus is not God the Father. But Trinitarians agree with that. The point is, you believe that there is a created thing that is divine and have God-attributes. I think only God has God-attributes and therefore if John is saying the Word (Jesus) is divine (having God-attributes) - that's just to say Jesus is God in the fullest sense of being God.
it amuses me that you see John proving Jesus is God, when John is written addressing gnostic incursion. Read jn8:40 a few times. And then jn8:43 and apply that one to the pharisees saying Jesus existed before Abe. You are reading the book from a assumptive position you have been conditioned to understand, by religious tradition. An analytic read would see jn1:1 as speaking about what it says, that Gods word, the promise of redemption, has been there from the beginning. Its now recorded and printed in what most churchians cling to dearly and call "The word of God."
@@ken440 Gnostic belief denying the humanity of Jesus? That MAY be the case. John did affirm the humanity of Christ. But not just that, John affirmed Christ's DEITY. I accept these two sets of data (that Christ s was truly God and truly man), the unitarian just wants to accept one set (that Christ was truly human).
@@ken440 The Word, who was in the beginning with God and was God, and by whom all things were made, became flesh and dwelt among us. So saying Word only means God's "uttered speech or promise" is very poor analysis of the text. The Logos is clearly referring to Jesus. Only by strained and radical exegesis can you try to escape what John is saying. John is saying Jesus is God. Moreover in verse 18, John calls Jesus the Only Begotten God. Twice in the prologue John calls Jesus God.
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Jesus is God, do not be led astray Philippians 2:5-11. ~ Paul explains to the church that Jesus did not find it robbery to be equal with the Father, but chose to come down as a bondservant. Also Luke 4:41 ~ Jesus was healing many from divers diseases and many demons came out of these people, even the demons were afraid of Jesus knowing He was the Son of God. All throughout scripture of the N.T Jesus has done many miracles, a man does not have the ability to do that unless He was Holy and had the authority of God Himself. No man is sinless but Jesus, How would a man be born sinless and remain sinless? Yet even legion which means many demons were casted from a man by Jesus power and yet they begged Jesus to put them in swine because they didn’t want to be destroyed for ETERNITY, if Jesus was just a man the demons would not be so fearful. Only God has the ability. Also through scripture Jesus chose to forgive many who have sinned and also healed them. Luke 7:40-48 ~ Mark 2:7 (Pharisees knew that only God can forgive sin) Revelation 21:3-8 (God says He is the alpha and the omega, the first and the last) -> Revelation 22:12-16 (Jesus says He is the alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last) ~ Why would Jesus claim that? Isaiah 44:6 (God says He is the first and the last and beside Him is no God) -> Revelation 1:17-18 (Jesus makes that same statement, after He was resurrected, aren’t you going to believe the man who resurrected after being clinically dead 3 DAYS) Isaiah 41:4 (not the only scriptures where God says He is the first and the last and yet Jesus said that’s who He is) Revelation 2:8 (says He is the the first and the last again) Isaiah 42:8 (He said He will not give His glory to any other) -> John 16:14-16 ( Jesus claims that God will glorify Him; DEFINITION of Glorify is To give glory, honor, or High praise to. He also said all things the father has are His and even said that the people would not see Him because He was going back to the Father) Isaiah 43:10-13 (God said that before Him was there no other God formed and neither shall there be after Him which states God has just always been. He also said that beside Him is not savior, and before the day was, God was always there) -> John 3:16-17 (God sent His ONLY Begotten; DEFINITION of Begotten is naturally exists, so Jesus wasn’t just created by God so it’s His son, no Jesus already existed before He came to Heaven that’s another reason why it says Jesus was SENT so through HIM we would be SAVED, If God said there is no savior beside Him then what would that make Jesus… GOD) -> 2 Peter 3:18 (Peter says that Jesus is our LORD & SAVIOR and then says glory goes to Him both now and FOREVER) all over scripture it says Jesus is our lord and savior, that can’t be hidden we know this. John 14:6 (Jesus says He is the way the truth and the life, no man cometh to the father but through Him, why would Jesus just call Him the father if He wasn’t apart of the GodHead? Wouldn’t He just call Him God? Yet again He does say that neither does He or the angels know when the time of the end shall come but the Father, but He also was limited to a human beings body and yet wasn’t fully God, He came to not receive praise from men but to give praise all to the father because yet again Jesus was half man. John 14-19 1 Timothy 16-17 Also read John 4 (Talks about the woman at the well)
“I AM” statements of John. •In John 6:35, Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life.” •In John 8:12, Jesus said, “I am the light of the world.” •In John 10:9, Jesus said, “I am the gate.” •In John 10:11, Jesus said, “I am the good shepherd.” •At the tomb of Lazarus in John 11:25, He declared to Martha, “I am the resurrection and the life.” •In John 14:6, He said, “I am the way and the truth and the life.” •Finally, in John 15:5, Jesus said, “I am the vine.” Revelation 22:13-14 (KJV) 13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. 14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. Isaiah 44:6 (KJV) 6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. You can’t have two First and Last. You fail to realize that the verses you mention is the Man Christ speaking which is different than the God in Christ speaking. You break all rules of hermeneutics. One God The Greek word Kai is translated as and, it is also Even or that is. The word And does not mean another person. Matt 28:19 says NAME singular which is Jesus. All you have to do is read through acts and notice when they mentioned baptism. Jesus is considered the Lamb of God, the King of Kings, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the High Priest. And you believe that, but you don’t believe that One God can be all of that and more. Isaiah 44:6-8 KJVS [6] Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. [7] And who, as I, shall call, and shall declare it, and set it in order for me, since I appointed the ancient people? and the things that are coming, and shall come, let them shew unto them. [8] Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it ? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any. Revelation 1:7-8 KJVS [7] Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. [8] I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. There can’t be two first and last. Isaiah 9:6 KJVS [6] For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Why is Jesus called / Identified as the Mighty God, and the everlasting Father? 1 Timothy 3:16 KJVS [16] And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. God put on flesh, and became as a man. Colossians 2:8-9 KJVS [8] Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. [9] For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Jude 1:25 KJVS [25] To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen. All that God is resides in the Body of Jesus. Acts 20:28 (NKJV) 28 Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood. God is Spirit. How does a Spirit have blood? There is no remission of sin without the shedding of blood. So God produced a human body to be sacrificed for the payment of sin for all. Well over 300 times the singular pronoun is used when speaking of God. The Greek Τριάδα is translated trinity. Not once is it used by the Apostles, nor of the OT writers. The OT is clear that ONE God was taught, then after the Apostles died He changed His mind? Mark 12:29 KJVS And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: Zechariah 12:10 (KJV) 10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon ME whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. Who was pierced? Zechariah 14:9 (NKJV) 9 And the LORD shall be King over all the earth. In that day it shall be- “The LORD is one,” And His name one. John 20:26-28 (KJV) 26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you. 27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. 28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. th-cam.com/video/TDdydYK_Myo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=k3-9WWcYGCubdqMq
Thanks for your question. Human beings are worshiped all of the time in scripture and it does not make them God. See this video, I directly address this - th-cam.com/video/D1nvLK0XHLQ/w-d-xo.html
Jesus is God, do not be led astray Philippians 2:5-11. ~ Paul explains to the church that Jesus did not find it robbery to be equal with the Father, but chose to come down as a bondservant. Also Luke 4:41 ~ Jesus was healing many from divers diseases and many demons came out of these people, even the demons were afraid of Jesus knowing He was the Son of God. All throughout scripture of the N.T Jesus has done many miracles, a man does not have the ability to do that unless He was Holy and had the authority of God Himself. No man is sinless but Jesus, How would a man be born sinless and remain sinless? Yet even legion which means many demons were casted from a man by Jesus power and yet they begged Jesus to put them in swine because they didn’t want to be destroyed for ETERNITY, if Jesus was just a man the demons would not be so fearful. Only God has the ability. Also through scripture Jesus chose to forgive many who have sinned and also healed them. Luke 7:40-48 ~ Mark 2:7 (Pharisees knew that only God can forgive sin) Revelation 21:3-8 (God says He is the alpha and the omega, the first and the last) -> Revelation 22:12-16 (Jesus says He is the alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last) ~ Why would Jesus claim that? Isaiah 44:6 (God says He is the first and the last and beside Him is no God) -> Revelation 1:17-18 (Jesus makes that same statement, after He was resurrected, aren’t you going to believe the man who resurrected after being clinically dead 3 DAYS) Isaiah 41:4 (not the only scriptures where God says He is the first and the last and yet Jesus said that’s who He is) Revelation 2:8 (says He is the the first and the last again) Isaiah 42:8 (He said He will not give His glory to any other) -> John 16:14-16 ( Jesus claims that God will glorify Him; DEFINITION of Glorify is To give glory, honor, or High praise to. He also said all things the father has are His and even said that the people would not see Him because He was going back to the Father) Isaiah 43:10-13 (God said that before Him was there no other God formed and neither shall there be after Him which states God has just always been. He also said that beside Him is not savior, and before the day was, God was always there) -> John 3:16-17 (God sent His ONLY Begotten; DEFINITION of Begotten is naturally exists, so Jesus wasn’t just created by God so it’s His son, no Jesus already existed before He came to Heaven that’s another reason why it says Jesus was SENT so through HIM we would be SAVED, If God said there is no savior beside Him then what would that make Jesus… GOD) -> 2 Peter 3:18 (Peter says that Jesus is our LORD & SAVIOR and then says glory goes to Him both now and FOREVER) all over scripture it says Jesus is our lord and savior, that can’t be hidden we know this. John 14:6 (Jesus says He is the way the truth and the life, no man cometh to the father but through Him, why would Jesus just call Him the father if He wasn’t apart of the GodHead? Wouldn’t He just call Him God? Yet again He does say that neither does He or the angels know when the time of the end shall come but the Father, but He also was limited to a human beings body and yet wasn’t fully God, He came to not receive praise from men but to give praise all to the father because yet again Jesus was half man. John 14-19 1 Timothy 16-17 Also read John 4 (Talks about the woman at the well)
@@tomtemple69 I dont think there is one Christian on this planet that denies the Father and the Son. Well, it might be the Trinitarians though. For them are Jesus a real son? And by the way, where in the scriptures can I read that it is heresy to deny Jesus as God?
@@luis7961 John 14: 9 Jesus *said to him, “Have I been so long with you, and yet you have not come to know Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? John 10: 30 I and the Father are one.” 31 The Jews picked up stones again to stone Him. 32 Jesus answered them, “I showed you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you stoning Me?” 33 The Jews answered Him, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy; and because You, being a man, make Yourself out to be God.” they were trying to stone Him because He claimed to BE God
If you are implying or claiming Jesus was claiming to be God you are wrong. Nobody at the trial of Jesus said "We heard him claim to be God". Being consistent with translating Jesus said "Before Abraham was, I am he". Revelation 13:8 says Jesus is the lamb slain from the foundation of the world. Yet this didn't happen until many years later. Yes, Jesus was planned to come before Abraham existed.
@@Lexinton55on the contrary you are less close to being a Christian for believing it. The Trinity is the Mark of The Beast. It's a man's number 666. It represents the unholy transgression created by man to dishonour God and the sacrifice of his Son. You divide God with this false belief and disrespect the love of him and his son. The irony is this dividing and disrespect is put forward as the opposite, as unity and honour.
@@Lexinton55 Yes, Jesus is God in the sense he himself explained it in John 10:31-38. There he explained that if he is called the Son of God or even God because he was sanctified and sent to earth by the Father, that doesn't mean he was claiming equality with the Father and therefore he was not blaspheming.
Unitarians that deny Jesus is God don't read or rightly divided the book. I've shown many Unitarians scriptures that shows Jesus is the YHWH, the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY. ZECH 12:10, REV. 1:8,11,12-13,17-18, REV.4:8, REV21:6-7,22, REV4:2 ,22:1,3-413,16. JN 14th chapter also shows Jesus is the only way you see the Father , because the Father is dwelling in the Christ. 1 Tim 3:16 God was manifest in the flesh. God was in Christ and that body is God's body and that Spirit was the LORD of the OT and now forever in Jesus. Jesus has dual nature's of Deity and humanity. Trinitarians and Unitarians are both wrong and this man here is only looking at the God with the Christ, the anointed man the Son of God . Who is or what is God in John 1:1 Jesus the man would not grasp after divine prerogatives. John 10:30 I am my Father are one. John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, my Lord and my God. Thomas is not just merely speaking some out of control speech to Jesus, like he is excited, he is directly calling him these, the Greek has O Kurios mou ho Theos or the Lord of Me, the God of me. Jesus was in his humanity the Christ the Son of God, but he always was that Word of God, being the idea and thought and then living expression of God in time. Jesus never gave up being the Father, he was so, but he was that Son. Isa 9:6. I find the shallow Unitarian denial of Jesus as God offensive, I find the Trinitarian denial he is fully God reprehensible and vile that they used force against Monarchians as myself in the past and yes the Unitarians, and Arians who have their problems.
@@ajaxzaya0991 , the fact that Unitarians see two separate beings God and a Son of God, and not Jesus as the God as Spirit. When Jesus spoke in Jn 17:3 he was speaking as the man Christ the Son, but Jesus wasn't limited to that nature alone, he had the God nature as Spirit and is spoken of as not only Sin, but also God and Father in ISA. 9:6, he stated when you see him or know him, you know the Father as well. Now there is only one God and Thomas said of Jesus , in John 20:28 "My Lord and my God " In the Greek that is O Kurios mou, ho Theos mou. ...The Lord of Me, the God of me. The Greek brings out that it wasn't a exclamation statement, but one stating Thomas counted him as Lord and God. Jesus is the Deity, indwelling the body he prepared, his tabernacle. Rev.22:1,3-4 shows that the God and the Lamb is the one seen and it speaks in singular personal pronoun of him as his servants, his face, his name and him. It is not 2, but God and the Lamb, the Spirit Lord God and his body, the man, the Lamb in which God dwells. Jesus said he got his name by inheritance, that he was come in his Father's name. The name Jesus is the name of God and the Son of God. The only true God is the Father, but that the sin of God would have his name called Mighty God and everlasting Father in ISA.9:6 is clear. Jesus is that Deity the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY IN REV.4;8, when you compare several scriptures in Rev.1:8,11,17-18, 2 :8, 20:13-16, 21:5-6, 22:13-16. Jesus is God, the Son of God and the Holy Spirit the comforter who was the Spirit of Christ as the Spirit of the Lord.
@@ajaxzaya0991 I've noticed the total blindness amongst Unitarians and Arians. You never comment on the verses that destroy your position, you act like a ostrich and hide your head. John 20:28, The many verses compared in Revelation that Shows Jesus is the God, not as many, but as Deity/God. The Lamb is where that God dwells for all eternity headquartered or in his fullness, but Jesus is not just the Son of God.,but that Son is called MIGHTY GOD & EVERLASTING FATHER AS TO HIS SPIRIT DEITY.ISA.9:6 Tell me how is it that Emmanuel/Immanuel God with us, is speaking of Jesus? Who is the First and the Last? Isa 44:6-8, compare to Rev.1:,8,11,17-18, 22:13 Rev. 22:13 Rotherham's emphasized Bible Rev.1:8 || I || am l the Al, to l the Z l, saith the Lord - | the God who Is Coming |, ||The Almighty||. Jesus speaking in a enigmatic speech as the Son of God, let it be known that when you see a d know him, you have seen and known the Father also ,John 14th Chap. There is others but if you don't read, research, see there is one God and it will be Jesus seen and heard in heaven as such.
Although your explanation of John 5 is spot on, Trinitarians will just differentiate between the person of the Father and the person of the Son. They will simply claim this is Jesus in his human nature or in his role as the Son Again, in John 10, your reasoning is excellent and the context is taken into account rather than being ignored. Interestingly, some NTs translate John 10 :33 as "a god" . In view of how Jesus responds by quoting Psalm 82 :6, this would seem to be the case. Translating the verse 'God' is yet another sign of translator bias. In John 20 :28, again, simply by looking at the context, we get the correct understanding. If ever there was a time to spell out that Jesus was God; or God incarnate; God in the flesh, this was it. But verses 30-31 do the oppsite : They show the purpose of the gospel was to show that Jesus ws the messiah, the Son of God, - not God. Indeed, the Jews did not see the messiah as God, but as his anointed One. However, even calling Jesus God - and there are only a handful of such verses contrasting with the hundreds differentiating Jesus from God - does not strictly in itself mean that Jesus is YHWH, as the word 'God' has a range of meanings and various ones such as Moses,Hebrew Kings; Judges and angels are designated God in scripture without ever implying that they are YHWH.
@JordanJackson41 : I'm afraid you are simply wrong. The title 'God/god' is applied to Moses. Hebrew Kings, Judges, angels - even the devil in the Bible. The divine name YHWH traditionally rendered Jehovah/Yahweh is God's name (Ex 3 :15) and features over 6000 times in the Bible(although many modern translations replace it with the word LORD). YHWH is the God of Israel, the God of Jesus the one to whom he addressed the famous words : "hallowed be thy name."(Mat6 :9,10) If you have watched the video or read my comment, you will understand that Jesus did not claim to be God Almighty and is never called such. Indeed, although Jesus is called 'Lord' 0 as are many others -, he is never called 'LORD' or 'LORD God'.
@JordanJackson41 : If you bother to read the context, you will see that these words are addressed to a Hebrew King. Christians view the words as a messianic prophecy. Jesus is never called Almighty God.
@JordanJackson41 : What you have just said proves he is not Almighty. You said : "All authority and power was GIVEN to him." Who GAVE him authority and power? The fact that he was GIVEN these indicates that he did not always possess them. Likewise, in John 5 :26 we read that the Son was GIVEN life in himself and so did not always have it just as he is GIVEN authority in v 27. In Acts2, Peter tells us in verse 36: "...that God hath MADE him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom ye crucified."
@JordanJackson41 : NO ! If he is given or is granted all authority then he did not always possess it. Note also John 5 :26, where we see that the Son was given life in himself. Again, this shows that he did not always possess it.
Yes. That is exactly what he said. What he did not say was "You believe in God, believe also that I am God too". We should believe in God (The Father) and we should also believe in his Messiah, his son. God (The Father) told us to do so, remember. (Luke 9:35) So listen to the Father (The Al-mighty God) and listen to the Son (The Messiah)
Jesus is God, do not be led astray Philippians 2:5-11. ~ Paul explains to the church that Jesus did not find it robbery to be equal with the Father, but chose to come down as a bondservant. Also Luke 4:41 ~ Jesus was healing many from divers diseases and many demons came out of these people, even the demons were afraid of Jesus knowing He was the Son of God. All throughout scripture of the N.T Jesus has done many miracles, a man does not have the ability to do that unless He was Holy and had the authority of God Himself. No man is sinless but Jesus, How would a man be born sinless and remain sinless? Yet even legion which means many demons were casted from a man by Jesus power and yet they begged Jesus to put them in swine because they didn’t want to be destroyed for ETERNITY, if Jesus was just a man the demons would not be so fearful. Only God has the ability. Also through scripture Jesus chose to forgive many who have sinned and also healed them. Luke 7:40-48 ~ Mark 2:7 (Pharisees knew that only God can forgive sin) Revelation 21:3-8 (God says He is the alpha and the omega, the first and the last) -> Revelation 22:12-16 (Jesus says He is the alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last) ~ Why would Jesus claim that? Isaiah 44:6 (God says He is the first and the last and beside Him is no God) -> Revelation 1:17-18 (Jesus makes that same statement, after He was resurrected, aren’t you going to believe the man who resurrected after being clinically dead 3 DAYS) Isaiah 41:4 (not the only scriptures where God says He is the first and the last and yet Jesus said that’s who He is) Revelation 2:8 (says He is the the first and the last again) Isaiah 42:8 (He said He will not give His glory to any other) -> John 16:14-16 ( Jesus claims that God will glorify Him; DEFINITION of Glorify is To give glory, honor, or High praise to. He also said all things the father has are His and even said that the people would not see Him because He was going back to the Father) Isaiah 43:10-13 (God said that before Him was there no other God formed and neither shall there be after Him which states God has just always been. He also said that beside Him is not savior, and before the day was, God was always there) -> John 3:16-17 (God sent His ONLY Begotten; DEFINITION of Begotten is naturally exists, so Jesus wasn’t just created by God so it’s His son, no Jesus already existed before He came to Heaven that’s another reason why it says Jesus was SENT so through HIM we would be SAVED, If God said there is no savior beside Him then what would that make Jesus… GOD) -> 2 Peter 3:18 (Peter says that Jesus is our LORD & SAVIOR and then says glory goes to Him both now and FOREVER) all over scripture it says Jesus is our lord and savior, that can’t be hidden we know this. John 14:6 (Jesus says He is the way the truth and the life, no man cometh to the father but through Him, why would Jesus just call Him the father if He wasn’t apart of the GodHead? Wouldn’t He just call Him God? Yet again He does say that neither does He or the angels know when the time of the end shall come but the Father, but He also was limited to a human beings body and yet wasn’t fully God, He came to not receive praise from men but to give praise all to the father because yet again Jesus was half man. John 14-19 1 Timothy 16-17 Also read John 4 (Talks about the woman at the well)
Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. John 20:17 (the forbidden verse).
@@Engineer9921Yeah you're right, Jesus is a Creation of God no doubt Colossians 1:15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all CREATION. 1 Corinthians 15:47 Adam, the first man, was made from the dust of the earth, while Christ, the second man, came from heaven.
@@ajaxzaya0991 (Isaiah 43:3) For I am the Lord thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour: I gave Egypt for thy ransom, Ethiopia and Seba for thee. (Isaiah 43:11) I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no saviour. The Lord our God says that he is the savior, and that there is no other savior but him; And at the same time Jesus is referred to as the savior by many authors, while Christ himself stated that he came to save that which was lost. Keep in mind that a believer knows that Christ is our Savior If there is no other Savior besides the Lord our God, how can Christ also be the Savior of the world?
It’s so sad the confusion people have with this subject. I am constantly asked: Where does Jesus himself say: I am God? To which, I ask…Where does Jesus himself say: I am not God? The answer to BOTH questions is NOWHERE. So we study scripture and context to figure this out. We know the Father is God. We also know Jesus is called God in many places. We know the Spirit is called God in Acts 5. We also know in John 5:22 that the Father has given all authority to judge to Jesus. In Revelation 22:12, Jesus is speaking. He continues to speak in verse 13: “I am Alpha and Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Jesus is God. Jesus isn’t the Father. He is the second in the godhead: completely equal in divinity.
@@christophercano4809 yes, because positionally, the Father IS greater, just like a BOSS is greater than an employee, in POSITION…not in BEING. The Boss and employee are EQUAL IN BEING: HUMAN. The Father, Son, and Spirit are DIFFERENT in POSITION, NOT in BEING…
@@edensessentialsnaturalwell8564 Let's follow your analogy to its logical conclusion. What makes the boss "greater in position" than an employee? I think the answer is more power, so is the father more powerful than the son? Which is what it seems if you read the bible.
@@christophercano4809 it’s unfortunate that you can’t grasp it. And I can’t help that. The Bible is absolutely clear that the Father, Son, and Spirit are God. I’m not here to argue. I just share the facts. And the fact is Jesus is equal in divinity along with the Father and Spirit.
@@edensessentialsnaturalwell8564 Just admit that you used an extremely flawed analogy. Because if you follow the logical conclusion of your analogy, it concludes that the father has more power than the son. Maybe try using another analogy, but give it more thought next time. Although, to be honest, whenever a Christian tries to use analogies to explain the trinity, they always fall into a heresy, so you might as well not even try.
Jesus is "THE WAY" to the Father according to John 14:6. Jesus is "...the only mediator between God and man..." 1 Timothy 2:5 That's another reason why Jesus can not be The Almighty God, the Father..! The Bible calls Jesus "Mighty God" but it never calls him Almighty God..! -Isaiah 9:6,7 God bless you brother..!
I was told that If I don’t believe Jesus is God but even if I still believe in Jesus and follow him as Lord and accept him as my Lord and savior that I have to believe Jesus is God to have everlasting life , I heard those who don’t believe Jesus is not God are not Christian’s and I was told that That’s exactly what the pharisses said “ if you are God then why are you on the cross dying” and it was because He was literally saving you, saving the people who didnt even believe in Him shutting up the devil and taking the keys to death and hell “ but I never seen the verse of the pharassies saying that and also 1 Timothy 3:16 “God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory” I was told that I need to know him better and it honestly hurts me because I love Jesus dearly and follow him I don’t believe Jesus was just some prophet but I do believe God is Jesus Father but I don’t even know what to believe anymore I feel like no matter which one I pick they are fighting with each other on you’ve been deceived I’m just hurting sad and down I don’t know what to believe anymore please someone help me
Many Trinitarian leaders will use threats or will say that you are going to "hell" if you do not believe that Jesus is God. However, there is no verse anywhere that teaches such a thing. And there is no interaction with the Pharisees saying "If you are God then why are you dying on the cross." The best way to approach this whole situation is to check what people claim with the scriptures. If it is not in the scriptures, you do not need to worry about baseless claims and scare tactics. The God we follow is not looking to condemn people to death for misunderstanding Him slightly. The thief on the cross knew very little about Jesus, yet, he was saved. So, I would encourage you to seek the truth on this matter with an open mind and don't be afraid of people making claims that aren't scriptural.
Why? The rest of the Bible has to be interpreted to harmonize with the plain unambiguous texts, not the other way around. The Bible doesn't work the way you want it to. You can't hear all this truth being stated and then rush out to find a few texts that YOU think stand in opposition to the plain unambiguous truth!! So what about John 1? It says nothing about Jesus being God. The word of God never became a flesh man either. Verse 14 is an obvious mistranslation of the Greek that was inspired by Gnostics and mystics in the early Church. The word CAME TO HUMANITY and DWELT IN US......etc.. That is the correct translation. If the word is not dwelling in you, then you are one one of YHWH's people. That is a FACT. Why? Because the word of YAHWEH is spirit, just as YHWH is spirit. John 1:1 a. In the beginning was ho logos, b. and ho logos was integral to ton theon [YHWH], c. and divine [theos] was ho logos. Alt: "and the word (ho logos) was divine (theos)." James Moffatt, former professor of Greek and New Testament Exegesis at Mansfield College in Oxford, England, and author of the well-known Moffatt Bible, agrees. He translated John 1:1c as, “the logos was divine.” In 1:1b, Ton Theon with the definite article is properly translated to English as "the God" with an uppercase "G" to signify it is referring to YHWH the only true God. Translators remove the definite article and use uppercase "G" to make God a proper noun referring to YHWH, the only true God (John 17:3). In 1:1c, Theos without the definite article is normally translated as god with a lowercase "g" and is sometimes translated as "divine." The divine translation more accurately applies here since there is no other deity mentioned. In John 1:1 all three instances of "ho logos" do not refer to another person or lessor god. The word is YHWH's word, and more specifically the writer is referring to none other than the GOSPEL which was in YHWH's forethought from eternity. The use of theos without the definite article, sandwiched between "ton theon" and "ho logos," indicates "theos" is being used as a predicate adjective to describe the spirit nature and qualities of YHWH and His word as being the same spirit, life, light, eternal, holy, and divine Logos. Both YHWH and His Logos are DIVINE. "Ho Logos" is an attribute and possession of YHWH, not a person, not a lessor god, and not Jesus. There is no Biblical basis for concluding that the second use of theos (without the definite article) is referring to a second person whose name is the word. The Author does not write: In the beginning was Jesus. No other deity besides YHWH is mentioned in John 's Gospel. Jesus never refers to himself as "ho logos" and neither do the Apostles. Quote: "The second use of theos in John 1:1c serves as a predicate adjective rather than as a predicate noun." [citation: Maximillian Zerwick, Biblical Greek, Rome: Scripta Ponificii Instituti Biblici, 1963, p. 55, par. 171; p. 57, par. 176. Regarding John 1:1b "pros ton theon" It is incorrect to insist that "pros" points to another person (Jesus) as having an eternal preexistent relationship with YHWH. What John is telling us is exactly what the Bible teaches: the Gospel is of the same eternal and divine spirit nature as what YHWH is. There is an eternal relationship between YHWH and His word without the word being the person of Jesus. According to Bauer’s Greek-English Lexicon the preposition pros with the accusative, as in John 1:1, 2, is a marker of movement or orientation toward someone or something. The context determines if it is a person or a something. Pros can mean a number of things such as, according to Bauer's: toward, towards, to, near, at, during, aiming at, striving toward, against, for, to indicate a connection by marking a point of reference, with reference to/regard to (about, because of, with respect to, which concerns, which belongs to, what makes for, in accordance with, in order to, for the purpose of),in adverbial expressions (“tends toward” Jas. 5:4) by, at, near. Thayer’s Greek-English Lexicon adds the definition “pertaining to.” Also, various translations render pros with the accusative as: Concerning, as respects, pertaining to, of, even to. Furthermore, the Greek word generally rendered as ‘with’ is para and not pros. The assumption that "pros" means there is another person "with" God in John 1:1 can only be due to TRADITION. The mystics, Gnostics, and Philosophers like Philo infected the early church with a lessor god and /or logos theory that conflicts with the Bible. People who insist on this interpretation overlook the Biblical evidence that "pros" can also be translated as "with" when referring to a something, rather than a someone. (Examples below). NOTE: The LXX renders pros ton theon as “to God.” Eighteen other occurrences of pros ton theon in the New Testament Scriptures are translated as: “to God,” “toward God,” “related to God” or “pertaining to God.” For example, many translations render the phrase pros ton theon in Hebrews 5:2 as: “pertaining to God...” (NASB); “in relation to God...” (ESV); “related to God...” (NIV). Similarly, in Hebrews 2:17 and Romans 15:17. The same or similar phrases are used in a number of other texts. Bauer’s choice of phrase for Romans 15:17 is “that which concerns God” in its rendering of "ta pros ton theon." Regardless, there is Biblical evidence that "pros" can be translated as "with" when referring to a something integral to God such as his spirit, nature, attributes, word, wisdom, power, love, etc.. However, in my opinion: "integral to God" is more accurate. Truly God's word is an integral part of who God is (the self revealing one). Job 10:12-16 informs us that God’s attributes such as life, love, wisdom, power are with Him. Isa 40.10; 62.11 states “His reward is with Him.” 2 Kings 3:12 states “The word of the Lord is with him.” In John 1:1c the Greek phrase "pros ton theon" refers to things and not a person. Other examples make this point clear. We have:
“things with God” (Heb 2:17; 5:1; Rom 17:15) “conscience with God” (Acts 24:16) “confidence with God” (2 Cor 3:4; 1 John 3:21) “peace with God” (Rom 5:1) “Faith with God.” (1 Thessalonians 1:8) Jesus cannot be read into the text of John 1:1 as being YHWH or the word because YHWH and His word are not begotten or born. Jesus was begotten and born. John 6:63 states God's word is spirit, meaning: of the same divine eternal substance. God is a spirit. (John 4:24) God's word is spirit. (John 6:63) God's word does not become flesh. (John 3:6) God's word is placed INTO Jesus. Deuteronomy 18:18. Jesus, the Son of God, is not the "word" (logos) of John 1:1. Rather, Jesus spoke his Father's logos....the very words he said belonged to his FATHER. (John 7:15-17; John 12:49-50; John 14:10; John 14:24). The belief that the word of God became the flesh of Jesus conflicts with the Bible which teaches us that the word of God came THROUGH Jesus to humanity to dwell in our hearts and minds and transform us. The Logos of God was placed into Jesus by God. Deuteronomy 18:18; Acts 3:22
Yes! It's so clear! I don't understand why Trinitarians can't see it! The John 1:1 Dilemma actually proves the Trinity false all by itself. Trinitarians read John 1:1 in one of two possible ways: 1) In the beginning was Jesus, and Jesus was WITH the Father, and Jesus WAS the Father. 2) In the beginning was Jesus, and Jesus was WITH God, and Jesus WAS God. If a Trinitarian picks 1, they must state that Jesus IS the Father, which is heresy to a Trinitarian. If a Trinitarian picks 2, they must state that Jesus was apart from God, WITH God, but not God himself. Option 2 carries the further issue of forcing there to be two Gods, one that Jesus is WITH and one that Jesus IS. Obviously option 2 is heresy to a Trinitarian as well. So that leaves you with zero possible options as a Trinitarian, and this is why John 1:1 precludes Trinitarianism.
@@lizzard13666They can’t see it because their minds are blinded by the god of the system of things. Don’t tell the Trinitarians that Satan is called a god too! They might crap themselves. 😂 “If, in fact, the good news we declare is veiled, it is veiled among those who are perishing, among whom the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, so that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through.” - 2 Corinthians 4:3, 4 Satan, as god of this system of things, obscures the truth about YHWH and Jesus so that they cannot attain to truth and life as John 17:3 says. But we hope and pray that all may come to know both of them in accurate knowledge and escape the crafty acts of the Devil.
@@lizzard13666 Absolutely wrong! The Word in John 1 is NOT Jesus. Jesus is the incarnation of the Word as a human being Jesus, in Palestine. 6000 years ago. The Word was with God and was God in eternity past and became flesh to dwell among us. He wasn't Jesus in eternity past, He was the Word and the Word became flesh, Jesus.
Don't deny the truth!!! The truth will make you free!!! Jesus is GOD forever!!! Who gave Moses the Ten Commandments? GOD. Jesus says in John 14:15 If ye love me keep my commandments.
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What about it? The chapter starts “Do not let your heart be troubled; believe in God, believe also in Me." John 14:1 NASB2020 There in the first verse Jesus has already identified himself as someone other than God.
@@DamianS1893 To sum it up: Jesus is a separate being from God (verse 1), through whom we have access to God (verse 6) and who reveals God to us (verse 7). Jesus is in God and God is in Jesus, and everything Jesus says is God's words and God is working through him (verse 10). Jesus will come to us by the Spirit of Truth, i.e. God's Spirit (verse 16-18) and God is greater than Jesus (verse 28).
The same first chapter in v 14 John confirms Christ as being the Son of God, which is what Jesus continually declared himself as and acknowledged to his disciples ie Mark 8:29
If Jesus says that no one is good except for God, and if it's true that Jesus is not God, then you have to conclude that either Jesus is not good, making Him sinful, or Jesus is good despite being not being God, making Him wrong.
That's a good thought. However, when Jesus said, "No one is good but God alone," (Mark 10:18) I don't think that means that all other beings are sinners. But that there is a sense in which the "goodness" of God exceeds all other beings. We know this because in that framework, you would then have to say that all angels are sinners, because only God is "good." Thus, I don't think we should understand "good" to mean sinless, and therefore, all other beings in the universe are sinners.
That's a great question that the text doesn't directly answer, however, I think from scripture, some things that would make the Father greater than the Son, is that the Father created the Son (Matt. 1:18), and all things (Gen. 1:1), the Father did miracles through the Son (Acts 2:22), the Father gave the Son authority (Matt. 28:18), and Jesus had to grow in wisdom (Luke 2:52), yet, the Father doesn't grow in wisdom, he has all wisdom (Psa. 147:5). So, I think in these ways, and others, the goodness of the Father exceeds the goodness of the Son.
@@biblicalunitarian I'm glad you brought those things up. There were multiple points in the video that I thought would be explained with properly understanding Jesus's existence as a human. Philippians 2:6-7 explains it like this, "...Who, though He (Jesus) was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied Himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men." Here we see Paul describing Jesus's becoming human as an intentional and willing choice, not merely a creation by the Father as you seem to suggest. Furthermore, it is this emptying Himself and setting aside the form of God and taking on the form of a servant that resulted in many of your objections as to why He had to be given things from the Father, such as life, wisdom, and authority. Servants don't have those in themselves, and Jesus was here as a servant, not His rightful form like that of the Father, which is God.
God said (paraphrasing) in Genesis 1:26, "Let us make man in our image and likeness." What did God make? TWO people, male and female, or husband and wife. Therefore by God's own mouth, God is TWO. Father and Son. Not just one, not three, but clearly TWO. God put His fingerprint on so much of His creation declaring that TWO shall be ONE, just like God. Most people debate whether God is one or three, when the most obvious is actually what God said He created to look like Him. TWO = Father and Son. And the life and presence of God is simply His Spirit. Proverbs 30:3-4 clearly refers to God as "The Holy One" and asks what is His Name and what is His Son's name, if you know?
We also have, "And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments." (Matt. 19:16, 17) There are many other very direct references to Jesus denying that he is God. The references that seem ambivalent have a clear alternate explanation, overwhelming evidence that the idea of Jesus being God has only the most tenuous and oblique interpretations.
Jesus is God in Life and nature, but not in the person of the Father. He is the person of God the Son, have the Life and nature of the Father, but not the personhood.
Show us your Greek interpretation/translation of Acts 20:28 and 1 Tim. 3:16. God's own blood was shed on the Cross and God was manifest in the flesh. Strong's fully concurs.
Your whole point is that Jesus denies what others say about him, so why at 6:48 would you use Mark 14:61-62 where Jesus clearly agrees with the high priest of being the Messiah and Son of God? Then goes on to affirm the divine title of Son of Man (of Daniel 7:13-14), and sitting at the right hand of the Father. This is the essence of equality friend.
The point of using Mark 14:61-62 was to show an example when Jesus clearly affirms a claim someone makes about him, and how that response is not at all like the response he gives in John 5 and John 10. Thus, he is not affirming the claim people are making about him. If someone said "You are claiming equality with God!" and you say, "I am the Son of God." Do you think that is affirming their claim? Put another way, let's say, someone says, "You are Bill!" and you say, "I am Bill's son." Do you think that is affirming the claim? Also, to your other comment, "Son of man" is not a divine title, meaning that he is God himself. The son of man approaches the ancient of days and receives an everlasting kingdom from him, thus, he is NOT him. I hear that often from Trinitarians, that it is a divine title, but how does receiving a kingdom make you become divine? David received a Kingdom, and Solomon.... yet, they are not divine. Obviously Jesus' kingdom is greater and eternal, yet, you seem to be making a huge leap from, 'receiving a eternal kingdom' to 'therefore, the son of man is a divine figure,' which is nowhere found in the text itself. Thanks for your comment.
I see. Well, with respect, your example works against you because the question is about equality in nature. Jesus, the Son of God (The Father) shares his father's nature. This is what makes him unique to all other sons of God mentioned in Scripture. I'm not Bill, but I am of Bills very nature as his son. That is why he is depicted sitting at the right hand of the Father because he inherits all things as a first born would. Furthermore, to be The Messiah is to be from everlasting (Micah 5:2; Habakkuk 1:12), or never created. The Son of Man in Daniel 7, is coming in the clouds which is only ever speaking of deity and all will serve him. The word serve here is always given to God alone except here. David and Solomon would never allow othere to serve them in this manner. So Jesus can say he and his Father are one because the nature they share. The Father being greater just shows his role as the source, and what distinguishes him from the Son and Spirit. Their will, is perfectly unified in eternal love. There is no lack in any of the persons. Last observation from the Mark passage in connection with John is the I am statement. Calling himself the "I am" in John 8:58 is a much higher claim of divinity then calling ones self God (usually synonymous with the Father) because it means Jesus always was and will be. Peace
@@jaredg5663 Thanks for the response. To your first point that Jesus shares his Father's nature, that is never taught in scripture. Jesus does things because God empowers him, not because he has the power inherent in himself (John 14:10). The fact that Jesus is God's son and was born by the Holy Spirit and Mary, could have a lot of implications. It could mean that Jesus is 100% God, it could mean he is 100% man, it could mean he is a mixture, or it could mean that he is 100% God and 100% man (a contradiction in my eyes, but what Trinitarians hold to). Scripture never defines Jesus' nature as a God-man, but it does define him as a man (Acts 2:22-23; 1 Tim. 2:5). Thus, we have great reason to believe he is a man. As you mentioned, we are sons of God and so are angels, but we are not divine, so, being a son of God does not inherently carry the meaning of being divine. Also, since, there is no explicit teaching in scripture that Jesus' nature is God's nature, and there are many differences in scripture between Jesus and God (Jesus was tempted, was not omnipresent, not omniscient, died, etc.), I'm not sure why we would conclude that his nature is the same. Understanding the Messiah to be everlasting from Micah 5:2 I think is a misunderstanding of the Hebrew and poorly translated, please see our article on that - www.biblicalunitarian.com/verses/micah-5-2. And Habakkuk 1:12 is speaking about God, not Jesus. Great point about Daniel 7, it actually caused me to go look up the Greek and Hebrew, it is the only place "latreuo" (to serve) is used of Jesus (which I previously thought there were none). However, "latreuo" is used of other things besides deities (Heb. 8:5; Sirach 4:14) thus, it does not turn Jesus into a divine figure. You said, "So Jesus can say he and his Father are one because the nature they share." This is possible, but not something John 10 says. You said, "Calling himself the "I am" in John 8:58 is a much higher claim of divinity then calling ones self God (usually synonymous with the Father) because it means Jesus always was and will be", the blind beggar also said "I am" in John 9:9, so that phrase isn't a claim to divinity, in and of itself.
@biblicalunitarian So I understand you don't agree, but to be God the Fathers only begotten or unique Son would logically mean he shared in his very nature, unless the Father changed and wasn't always a Father. No one else is ever called the Son of God with the article. We can only be sons by adoption. Furthermore, I do and must confess Jesus is man (1 John 4:2-3). This means I affirm all the non divine things he does as you pointed out (growing, learning, dying). But he has two natures, and we must affirm he is God's very Son as well (1 John 4:15). He is Emmanuel- God with us. No text ever says Jesus is "only" man btw. Just an observation in 1 Timothy 2:5, being a mediator is a task, and so he can actually do his job because he is fully divine and fully man. He is able to see both sides in a real sense. I won't get into the Messiah texts you don't agree with, but my point is that the Messiah in the OT is called God and LORD, plus given divine attributes ( Isaiah 9:6; Jeremiah 23:6; Psalm 45:6-Repeated in Hebrews 1:8-9). On Daniel 7, I believe you are missing the point. If all nations serve this figure that comes in the clouds, that would be idolatry. Serving here is as in worship. This is why the high priest is furious because he claimed to be Equal with the Father. It's like Jesus is saying, "I can go pass through the vale into the Holy of Holies and sit on the ark of the covenant, right on the mercy seat". To your last objection about John 8:58. This is the covenant name of God, given to Moses at the burning bush. The example you used in John 9:9 uses the same construction (that I am aware of), but the context can't be him claiming to exist before Abraham as Jesus did. If you want to respond again, cool, but I probably won't, but just curious and last question. As a Unitarian, how could Jesus ultimately save if he doesn't have a divine nature? Peace
2 Corinthians 5:19 King James Version 19 To wit, that God was IN Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. John 17:3 King James Version 3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. 1 Timothy 2:5 King James Version 5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
So what is the difference between a Human Father and his Son? If all things were made by Him(Jesus) and without Him, nothing was made that was created. Then if He was created the top statement is false. Very simple logic. We have a Being That was not created that was with the Father from the beginning. And then there is Heb 1:10.
Jesus sits at the right hand of the Father .. you can't sit next to someone and at the same time BE that person! Trinitarians remind me of that saying "It's easier to fool someone than to convince them that they've been fooled"! And secondly half the reason for the "confusion" is the removal of God's name from the scriptures!!
Jesus says at the end of John 5 that Moses speaks of him. So please show me where does Moses ever speak of the son of God? Or does Moses only speak of God?
Wrong John 5:20 says, "And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life".
@@julianmanjarres1998 That translation has poor manuscript evidence, the better and earlier manuscripts read, "He was manifested in the flesh." Many Trinitarian translations don't use "God was manifested in the flesh" (NIV, NLT, ESV, NASB, CSB, NET). Do you believe when Jesus says that "they may know you the Only True God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent," in John 17:3, that is clear as day that Jesus doesn't consider himself part of the ONLY true God? There are no manuscript troubles for John 17:3.
Yeah Jesus is a Man, not a God 1 Corinthians 15:47 Adam, the first man, was made from the dust of the earth, while Christ, the second man, came from heaven.
The first step is to realise the trinity is false. The second step is to realise Jesus(Peace be upon him) is not divine but was a man sent by the one true God. The third step is to ask God sincerely to guide your heart to the truth and what is most pleasing to him. “Say “He is Allah , [who is] one, Allah the Eternal Refuge, He neither begets nor is born, Nor is there to him any equivalent.” {Quran 112} I invite all the sincere truth seekers to study Islam from authentic sources. Peace❤
@@biblicalunitarian He emptied Himself as being fully man and fully God but that did not mean Jesus lost His divinity. He was God in human form. The disciples didn't understand this entirely either until Jesus rose from the dead then ascended to Heaven and sent His advocate the Holy Spirit to guide them. I'm wondering what you conaider the Holy Spirit then?
”And after eight days His disciples were again inside, and Thomas with them. Jesus came, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, “Peace to you!” Then He said to Thomas, “Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing.” And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!” Jesus said to him, “Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”“ John 20:26-29 NKJV
John 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life. Revelation 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. Hebrews 1:8 But unto the Son [he saith], Thy throne, O God, [is] for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness [is] the sceptre of thy kingdom. Colossians 1:16-20 16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. 19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell; 20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.
Actually the Apostle John, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, is the one who interpreted Jesus saying that God was his Father to mean that he was implying that he was equal to God. John 5:18 KJVS Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God. However it is valid to point out that every thing he has is from the Father.
“And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.” - 1 John 5:20 (KJV)
Mt. 26:57-68 Tell us if you are the Messiah, the Son of God.” Jesus answered him, “So you say. But I tell all of you: from this time on you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right side of the Almighty and coming on the clouds of heaven!” Caiaphas declared this was blasphemy.
Although i belong to NO religious denomination, ive been studying the main 3. Islam , christianity and judisism along side the Bible doctrines of the Jehovah's Witnesses. As time has gone on it is CLEAR as day to me now that the Jehovah's Witnesses have the correct understanding of the Bible amd the true God himself Jehovah. Have they always had it right? No are but they have prohressed in the understanding of the Bible and have cleared all unclean pagan traditions and rituals from their religion.
”When Jesus saw their faith, He said to the paralytic, “Son, your sins are forgiven you.” And some of the scribes were sitting there and reasoning in their hearts, “Why does this Man speak blasphemies like this? Who can forgive sins but God alone?” But immediately, when Jesus perceived in His spirit that they reasoned thus within themselves, He said to them, “Why do you reason about these things in your hearts? Which is easier, to say to the paralytic, ‘Your sins are forgiven you,’ or to say, ‘Arise, take up your bed and walk’? But that you may know that the Son of Man has power on earth to forgive sins”-He said to the paralytic, “I say to you, arise, take up your bed, and go to your house.”“ Mark 2:5-11 NKJV
I am surprised that people who see themselves as educated are really so blind to the Bible truths such as your rejection of Jesus as God. You people reject comparison teachings, Biblical passages you don't like, some the Book Of Revelation, and then rape from Jesus his full deity. John 20:28, John 14th chap, Rev 1:8,11, 4:8, wind up proving you people are false teachers. Isa 9:6 with Mal.3:10 shows there is a child born a son given and he is the mighty God and everlasting Father, that there is one Father and Jesus was clear, see him and you see the Father, Know him and you know the Father. You reject him as the I AM, Isa.43:10-11,25 & JN 8:24-26, 18:5-8. Yes in your attempt to flee from Trinitarianism, you have fled from Jesus being the one true God Almighty. Ignorance is what I see in the Unitarian camp. Jerry Hayes debated Willy Olmo, who had similiar views of Jesus as not God and got thrashed badly. One would have to reject plain teachings and swerve around what you don't want to see or understand to come up with such lies. (The debate is available on Amazon). Trinitarians are a wicked bunch and a murderous lot, you folks are just ignorant, blind or uneducated, but haven't seen that you did as a group through the centuries as they( neither did us Monarchians). But you both will suffer the same fate, hell and eternally separated from Jesus our God. You do read other versions and the Greek Interlinear Bibles I hope when studying, because you seem to do a poor job.
@@biblicalunitarianYou seem to fail to understand, Jesus forgave sins as God in Christ, the Apostles remitted sins because of the plan of salvation through having men repent and be baptized for remission of sins. The passage describes that Jesus is doing the act and the scribes knew it ( something you fail to see) and the Apostles after Christ death given authority from him by the Spirit to do the workings of salvation with man, Jesus still is the forgiver not a Apostle. Making such comments as you made seems rather ignorant, you cannot even view the passage and see how others took it, you twist the false idea how you want it to say, Shame on you and all Unitarians for such antiChrist views .
Just wanted to add something. It's easy to miss, but in John 5:23, it appears that Jesus is saying that people will honour the Son of God, just as they have been honouring God. It's just one of the passages which, although superficially appearing to communicate that the Son is equal to the Father, actually communicates the opposite, and especially given the context of verse 22. People will be honouring the Son BECAUSE the Father has given Him authority to execute judgement. The honour of the Son is derived from something that the Father has done towards the Son. It's basically like how one can respect someone appointed by a king to be a judge, because they respect the king. It's like how the Egyptians respected Joseph because of the authority that Pharaoh gave to him.
🖐️♥️ .so Manny Treu insights that you are sharing here and even If i say " my Lord and my God ",i still know who i and refering to my Lord wich is Jesus and My God The God of Abraham Isaac Jacob " 📖 📯.
As a trinitarian myself that used to be non-trinitarian, I will try my best to refute these arguments. 1:28 - It is important that you don't misrepresent the argument of the trinity. Jesus Christ, according to the trinity, is not only fully God but also fully human. The son submitting to the will of the father is the way Jesus Christ sets an example for us by overcoming the fallible human within him. 2:07 - I find it interesting that you use John 5:22 as evidence against the trinity, considering in Revelation 20:12, it states that God will judge everyone in the afterlife. This, to me, is evidence that Jesus is God; not to the contrary. 2:25 - Again, the son is both fully God and fully human. To be given eternal life, you must forsake the flesh and submit yourself to the will of the father, just as Christ did. Most of the arguments in this video are attacking the straw man. The trinity is not something that was invented without careful consideration. Jesus Christ was fully human, but also fully God because he subjected the will of the son to the will of the father. I am glad that you addressed a couple of verses that contain evidence for the trinity but you seem to have left out the most compelling ones. I have a list of a few here: Phillipians 2:5-7 1 Timothy 3:16 John 1:1,14 Luke 5:20-21 Colossians 1:14-17 paired with Genesis 1:1 John 5:22 paired with Revelation 20:12 John 8:56-58 paired with Exodus 3:14 Matthew 28:9 paired with Exodus 20:3-5 Mark 1:3 paired with Isaiah 40:3 Titus 2:13 paired with Isaiah 43:11-12
The point of the video was not to address every (or the strongest) Trinitarian argument, it was to show how much "Trinitarian" language that gets used, isn't from the scriptures. I addressed 12 of the strongest trinitarian verses in this video series: th-cam.com/video/4dq2R-nKtmE/w-d-xo.html
@@biblicalunitarian Thank you for being respectful and genuinely defendant of your beliefs. But some of the strongest arguments for the trinity do not come from individual verses, but multiple scriptures side by side. Jesus is God because he claims to do things only God can do. According to Colossians 1:14-17 and John 1:3, Jesus Christ created the world. However, according to Genesis 1:1, God created the world. This and many other examples listed in my previous comment clearly testify the divinity of Jesus.
Before Abraham was, "I am". Jesus stated He was God quite plainly. Anyone can twist the bible to make it say whay it doesn't. It does say Jesus is The Lord....Jehovah, Jehovah God.
"I am" - The blind man in John 9:9 Saying "I am" does not make you God. He explicitly claimed to be the Son of God (John 10:36), which means he is not God himself. The son of Bill is not Bill.
@biblicalunitarian - Philip asked Jesus to show him the Father. Jesus replied that He is in the Father and the Father is in Him. He and the Father are one. If you've seen me, you've seen the Father. They are one. If there is only one God, and that is truth, then Jesus is the Son of God and God. He is both. He is Lord and Savior. He is both. Only God could be Savior. Only God could be Lord. He is both. Jesus is both Lord and Messiah, the Christ. Peter made this clear in Acts 2:35-36. If you cannot agree with what Peter taught here, you aren't following Apostolic teachings, the gospel, of Jesus at all. I pray you will get behind Jesus and lean not on your understanding.
Many scholars (even Trinitarian) think that God is speaking to his divine council, which he speaks to at other times in the OT (Psa. 89:7; Job 15:8; Jer. 23:18). I don't think three or four uses of "us" should override the thousands of times singular pronouns and verbs are used in relation to "God."
manny so manny words you Spoke are treu and backed up with scripture brother . 🥲🖐️❤️📖📯Thank You Father in Heaven and Lord Jesus Lamb of God and Holy Spirit the Comforter for this Confirmation .
Jesus is God, do not be led astray Philippians 2:5-11. ~ Paul explains to the church that Jesus did not find it robbery to be equal with the Father, but chose to come down as a bondservant. Also Luke 4:41 ~ Jesus was healing many from divers diseases and many demons came out of these people, even the demons were afraid of Jesus knowing He was the Son of God. All throughout scripture of the N.T Jesus has done many miracles, a man does not have the ability to do that unless He was Holy and had the authority of God Himself. No man is sinless but Jesus, How would a man be born sinless and remain sinless? Yet even legion which means many demons were casted from a man by Jesus power and yet they begged Jesus to put them in swine because they didn’t want to be destroyed for ETERNITY, if Jesus was just a man the demons would not be so fearful. Only God has the ability. Also through scripture Jesus chose to forgive many who have sinned and also healed them. Luke 7:40-48 ~ Mark 2:7 (Pharisees knew that only God can forgive sin) Revelation 21:3-8 (God says He is the alpha and the omega, the first and the last) -> Revelation 22:12-16 (Jesus says He is the alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last) ~ Why would Jesus claim that? Isaiah 44:6 (God says He is the first and the last and beside Him is no God) -> Revelation 1:17-18 (Jesus makes that same statement, after He was resurrected, aren’t you going to believe the man who resurrected after being clinically dead 3 DAYS) Isaiah 41:4 (not the only scriptures where God says He is the first and the last and yet Jesus said that’s who He is) Revelation 2:8 (says He is the the first and the last again) Isaiah 42:8 (He said He will not give His glory to any other) -> John 16:14-16 ( Jesus claims that God will glorify Him; DEFINITION of Glorify is To give glory, honor, or High praise to. He also said all things the father has are His and even said that the people would not see Him because He was going back to the Father) Isaiah 43:10-13 (God said that before Him was there no other God formed and neither shall there be after Him which states God has just always been. He also said that beside Him is not savior, and before the day was, God was always there) -> John 3:16-17 (God sent His ONLY Begotten; DEFINITION of Begotten is naturally exists, so Jesus wasn’t just created by God so it’s His son, no Jesus already existed before He came to Heaven that’s another reason why it says Jesus was SENT so through HIM we would be SAVED, If God said there is no savior beside Him then what would that make Jesus… GOD) -> 2 Peter 3:18 (Peter says that Jesus is our LORD & SAVIOR and then says glory goes to Him both now and FOREVER) all over scripture it says Jesus is our lord and savior, that can’t be hidden we know this. John 14:6 (Jesus says He is the way the truth and the life, no man cometh to the father but through Him, why would Jesus just call Him the father if He wasn’t apart of the GodHead? Wouldn’t He just call Him God? Yet again He does say that neither does He or the angels know when the time of the end shall come but the Father, but He also was limited to a human beings body and yet wasn’t fully God, He came to not receive praise from men but to give praise all to the father because yet again Jesus was half man. John 14-19 1 Timothy 16-17 Also read John 4 (Talks about the woman at the well)
@BornAgainEnglishmanKJV 58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.” 59 So they picked up stones to throw at him, but Jesus hid himself and went out of the temple. they tried to stone Him because they knew who I AM is and they called Him a blasphemer for saying He is God if Jesus isn't God, who is He and why did His death on the cross save us?
Just wanted to point out that when he showed the image John 20:28, in the corner it incorrectly showed John 10:28! Also, when Thomas said, “my lord and my god”; ALL punctuation is supplied by the translator! Modern punctuation DIDN’T exist in Ancient Greek OR Hebrew! It’s also equally possible that he said, “My Lord!!” and “My God!!” That makes a HUGE difference! ALSO, he DIDN’T immediately go down on his hands and knees in worship!
There are different problems here:1: When the Jews are wrong, we are told either by Jesus or by the Scripture, example being with the temple 2:The Son does nothing on his own because according to Matthew 20:28 he came down to serve not to be served, Paul explains in Philippians 2 that Jesus is God but emptied himself to serve 5:21 doesn't prove anything especially since in John 10, we learn that it is Jesus' own voice and own power that leads his sheep to salvation also no, there is no misunderstanding when the Jews say:you are claiming to be God, in fact, in John 10:22-39, Jesus not only applies to himself Isaiah 43, Deuteronomy 32 and Psalm 95, he is the God who will judge these wicked "Gods" of Psalm 82 10:29 yes the Father is greater than All and 10:30, I and the Father are One as for the Thomas example, this is why I don't like Unitarians, he blatantly confirms Thomas' faith and doesn't gliss over it, he is outright saying:yeah you're right as for Jesus being the Son of God, it is because in the Trinity he is God the SON, also the Son of a man is a dog? The son of a dog is a man? Why isn't the Son of God divine? Like, there's no reason to assume that God would be different and Jesus taught his divinity, also John 12, Jesus says that Isaiah in Isaiah 53 and Isaiah 6 saw Jesus' glory despite he saw Yaweh's Glory and chapter 6 is about Isaiah in front of Yaweh's throne like, let's also not ignore how Peter in both his epistles said that Jesus is God(2 Peter 1:1 and 1 Peter 3:14-15 quoting Isaiah 8:12-13 but changing Yaweh of hosts with Christ the Lord)
There is a lot I could respond to, but I will only respond to a few of your points for time's sake. Yes, in maybe one place Jesus is called God (John 20:28) but I think there is a better understanding of that - www.biblicalunitarian.com/verses/john-20-28 But Trinitarians must ignore the thousands of times God is someone different from Jesus (John 14:1; Matt. 3:9; 5:8, 9; 6:24, 30; etc.). The biblical authors clearly think God is someone different from Jesus. Also, being the "son of God" does not make you by nature "God." Adam was called the Son of God, do you think he is God? What about angels, they are called "sons of God"? How do you understand Jesus in John 17:3? Do you see how Jesus does not include himself as part of the "Only True God?"
Deuteronomy 6:4-9 One God and 1 Timothy 2:5. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the MAN Christ Jesus;
The Trinity is also one God, nobody is saying that there is more than one God
@@dlingfasin6826 trinity doctrines is the fabrications of man not in scriptures and there not way that you can describe it as so only going outside of scriptures hence it is a false narrative and a doctrine easily proven by scriptures and historical evidence of its existence
@@dlingfasin6826 seems TH-cam taking away my response, follow false trinity just makes you another false teacher of councils of men in Rome in counterfeit Christianity
@@Zipfreer The Trinity is not only inside the Bible (the creator of this video and every unitarian video in this site are doing olympic levels of mental gymnastics and taking verses out of context to justify their heresy.
Arianism was condemned and debunked in the 4th century by the actual church and all christians. Go do your history. Even just calling the early church (the real one) and its teachings ´councils of men in Rome´ screams a profound level of ignorance in the history of the religion you supposedly follow.
@JordanJackson41 Why are you telling me this? Do you think the trinity means more than one equal god? Because it doesnt
It's difficult for people to denounce traditional beliefs and actually believe scripture.
Not if you denounce post-Biblical traditions, and stick to what the Bible teaches!
Difficult but not impossible. Take for instance the Jews who were tradition enslaved persons.
(John 8:31, 32) Then Jesus went on to say to the Jews who had believed him: “If you remain in my word, you are really my disciples, 32 and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”
Most of Jesus' first Century disciples were Jews.
@@tongakhan230 exactly.
What did Thomas call Jesus ?
27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.
28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
"my Lord and my God"
Did Jesus rebuke him for it ? No, Thomas finally believed.
@@mkovis8587 : AFTER Thomas realized that Jesus was an ANGEL of God, he said what others before have said.
Did everyone who were present fall down and worship Jesus after Thomas said what he did? Afraid to look Jesus in the face lest they should perish?
(Exodus 33:20) But he added: “You cannot see my face, for no man can see me and live.”
Anyone that reads the New Testament for themselves can come to no conclusion other than Jesus is not God himself. Read the books of the apostles and it is clear they viewed God and Jesus separately and God greater. Glory to Jesus and I personally know how emotionally we can love Jesus because he joined us in our suffering as humans AND Jesus and I have the same Father God! Glory!
Apparently not anyone... 3 Persons but 1 God= The Father, The Son Jesus Christ and The Holy Spirit is the Triune Godhead. Jesus Christ has always existed with The Father and Holy Spirit... Jesus Christ is The Alpha / Beginning and The Omega / End.
@@DamianS1893you can't have it both ways, you have three god's there like it or not.
@@DamianS1893do you think you'd get to that conclusion on your own just by reading the new testament without prior indoctrination?
@@samuelcallai4209
NLT Bible
Matthew 28:16-20
The Great Commission
Then the eleven disciples left
for Galilee, going to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go.
When they saw Jesus, they worshiped him-but some of them doubted.
Jesus came and told his disciples, I have been given all authority in heaven and on earth. Therefore, go and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. Teach these new disciples to obey all the commandments I have given you. And be sure of this... I am with you always, even to the end of the age.
Got a question for You... (NLT Bible) Matthew 28:17 Why do the disciples worship Jesus... If Jesus is Not equally God?
You speak so nicely and explain things in a simple and straightforward way that is so easy to understand.
Excellent work, and thank you for these pearls of truth.
He doesn't explain well, he actually avoids the many scriptures that speak of Jesus as God that is written. Yes Jesus as the Man Christ DID NOT GRASP AFTER The DIVINE PREROGATIVES. He could not, in his role or mode as Son. But Jesus is God ,the only true God as Father as well as the Comforter, maybe reading slowlllly John 14th chap. You can see that.
@@bobjames3748 Maybe you read John 14 backwards.
1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, *the man Christ Jesus;*
@@colingr318 The one God is Jesus as to his nature as Spirit. The human b
Nature is the Christ the Son . What you fail to see is that Jesus is more than the Son, he is the Father also. If Jesus is called God, then he is as the only true God the Father.Isa. 9:6,John 1:1,14,Jude 25, Zech 14:9, Rev. 19:11-16 ,Rev 1:8 ,11, 4:8, 22:13,16,20
Jn 20:28
The Lord of Me, The God of me, spoken to Jesus and not denied by him after the death of the Christ upon his resurrection, he was God manifest in the flesh. How do you miss that Jesus is the Father and Comforter in John 14:?! How is it you don't know that God is our Father and there is only one God and if Jesus is called God, he is the FATHER!
THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD AND THAT GOD BEGOT A BODY OF FLESH, THE CHRIST, The man Christ is Jesus and the Lord God is Jesus. The Father is not a separate or other being, he is the only God and he has the Logos or plan or idea that was with him and was God as one cannot separate one's idea of expression from himself. The Word in time, became flesh and dwelt among us. Jesus is God from eternity and God in Christ, the same Lord and his name is Jesus as he has the Father's name
@@colingr318you seem to be reading backwards yourself.
Jesus was fully God and fully human because He emptied himself of His divinity and took on the nature of man unto himself.
Unitarians read the Bible with utter blindness and oblivious of the truth that Jesus Christ who did NOT consider equality with God a robbery but emptied himself of His divine nature and took on the nature of a man and even that unto death, death on the cross. You misinterpreted scripture.
John clearly says "In the beginning was logos and logos was with God and logos was God. . . "All things were made through him." "Logos" is clearly referring to Jesus, if you read the rest of the chapter in context.
In the Old Testament, God refers to himself as "I AM". In the New Testament, Jesus says, before Abraham was, I AM". Every Jew of the First Century understood that to mean Jesus is God, which is why the religious leaders picked up stones to stone Jesus. Thus, Jesus did say he is God.
Great content, brother. It seems straight forward to me to just accept one Lord and one God. For me, when you simply turn loose of the idea that Jesus HAS to be God, everything clicks. Really enjoyed your interview with Dr. Dale Tuggy as well. Keep up the good work.
Great point. Especially when scriptures say the Messiah needed to be a man.
This should help.
(1 Corinthians 8:6) there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ
Only the one Jesus and his disciples address as Father is God. Jesus is a SON of God whom God SENT on a mission.
(John 1:34) And I have seen it, and I have given witness that this one is the Son of God.”
@@ntxn9336 "People just don't know their Bible at all." Could be a contributing factor on either side, but certainly not the main issue of why there are differing opinions on this subject. It's not really a valid argument in this case.
@@ntxn9336 : The whole purpose of Satan making Jesus into God was to destroy the value of Jesus' sacrifice (in the minds of people. Not actually though).
Hebrews 9:. 24 For Christ did not enter into a holy place made with hands, which is a copy of the reality, but into heaven itself, so that HE NOW APPEARS BEFORE GOD on our behalf.
If God sacrificed HIMSELD to pay it to HIMSELF, then it would be similar to someone paying HIMSELF some money. Nonsensical.
@@ntxn9336 Would you affirm that Jesus has a God?
Man this is brilliant . I'm not a fan of any Christian Sect. But i have to give respect to the Unitarian Christians. You are a breath of fresh air. Reasonable. Logical and very admirable . No mental gymnastics just straight discussion using reason and logic. Ya'll are awesome
What religion do you subscribe to?
@@lizzard13666 I'm agnostic. I don't subscribe to any . They all have flaws nd corruption
@@gtxoiltastebad I agree with you that all religious aren't perfect. But the way I see it, the people aren't what matters as much as the belief itself! In fact, the Christian worldview explicitly tells us that we won't be perfect. Christian churches are like hospitals for the sick. If you're perfectly healthy you don't need a hospital. We all need churches, imperfect as they are. Maybe God is calling you to do your part to help make them better? I heard a really cool saying that is one of the reasons I stayed in a church; "Not a perfect church, a perfect Saviour".
@@lizzard13666 I agree a house of worship can be very benificial. But it can also be a great tool for the wicked. I'll give you an example. Trinity exists no where in the bible. and was created by the church 300 years after christ. Now a house of worship has turned into a house of control by demonic forces. Now sending a person to this place isn't going to fix him. Its going to make him worse. The church has no right to disrespect God by making trinity when God forbids it in the most important Commandment. The 1st Commandment. In this sense... You can see why the church isn't the best place for clairty . Do you agree?
@@gtxoiltastebad Yeah, I'm a Biblical Unitarian/Christadelphian, and I've spent years studying the various Trinity models, so I'm aware there are problems! That still falls under my previous comment! God doesn't expect us to be perfect, He expects us to be faithful!
It’s so nice to see a new video on this channel. I’m currently in a small bible study group and we are going through the book of John. They are all trinitarians and it’s frustrating sometimes. But I’m there so I can be around others who at least believe in Jesus. The videos on this channel will help me explain to them why I’m a Biblical Unitarian as we continue to study John. Please keep posting new videos. 🙏🏻 🙂
You going to BSF? I do and John is what we are studying too. I'm in the same boat.
JWs are God's last days' people (Isaiah 43:10).
Try studying with them.
'No man has SEEN God AT ANY TIME' (1 John 4:12,20) is very clear. Jesus was never God.
No one has heen his spirit, Tonga.. you have to read in context. Jesus was seen because he became man. You should read these verses: 1 John 5:20, John 1:14, 1:14 (after read 1 John 1:1-2), 1:18, 10:30, Isaiah 44:6, Revelation 22:13, Revelation 1:8, John 12:44-45, Luke 7L16, Exodus 3:14 (after read John 8:58, same words in Hebrew), John 5:23. John 5:31-32 - Philippians 2:3-11 (this literally says Jesus is God). Matthew 7:20-24. The disciples worshiped Jesus: Luke 24:49-53, John 9:38, Matthew 14:33, Matthew 28:9, Matthew 28:17, Matthew 2:11. The Father, Yahweh, says that Jesus is God: Hebrews 1:8-12. Every knee will bow for Jesus: Isaiah 45:23, Romans 14:11, Philippians 2:10-11. Jesus is the Begin and the End, He is God: Revelation 22:12-13 > Revelation 1:8 > Revelation 4:8. @@tongakhan230
@@MelissaK-lh4ig : When John wrote that 'no man has seen God AT ANY TIME' he is obviously talking about a form that humans CAN SEE. Spirits CANNOT BE SEEN ANYWAY.
Was Jesus God in a form that humans can see? The answer would probably be YES. Then explain John's statement please?
Just citing a load of scriptures????
Unless the Bible has contradictory teachings, we must reconcile all scripture with the above TRUTH.
I can help with one scripture at a time if it needs explaining IF it seems to contradict the above truth.
❤when I explained to my church that I was not a Trinitarian, they said "you can't be a member, but you can visit" I was like "visit i will" 😊
"Jesus said to them, Truly, truly, I say to you, Before Abraham came into being, I am." (John 8:58)
IF Jesus is God, THEN the statement "No one has ever seen God" CANNOT BE TRUE (1 John 4:12)
Yes, he was the Christ planned before Abraham. Jesus never claimed to be God. He claimed to be the Son of God. John 10:36
Revelation 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
@@rotaryenginepeteContext. He is referring to mortal sinful men, Jesus is exception
@@shanederry2691you missed it. "I Am" is the name of the Hebrew God. It's the name God revealed to Moses in Exodus. Translation, Jesus basically called himself God. The Jews understood this and immediately picked up stones to kill him.
@@trich103 No he didn't! The blind man in John 9:9 said "ego eimi" "I Am". Was he claiming to be God? God in Exodus 3:14 said "ego eimi ho on" which is "I am the Being". Jesus didn't say "Before Abraham was, I am the Being. He said "Before Abraham was I am he.
Exodus 3:14
Brenton Septuagint Translation
And God spoke to Moses, saying, I am THE BEING; and he said, Thus shall ye say to the children of Israel, THE BEING has sent me to you.
I have been enabled to have this same understanding by the Spirit. May the word spread and overthrow false doctrines. Amen.
Great to hear!
@@biblicalunitarian Jesus is God!
@@biblicalunitarian
Why is not the simple scriptural picture sufficient? Why is it necessary to go the "Greek metaphysics" to find that the above Scriptures are all very misleading and actually there are three Gods? To make Greek metaphysics and scripture testimony agree, it is said that there are "Three Gods in one." But for those who desire to be guided by the Word of God, the scripture clearly refutes this compromise. It very clearly distinguishes YahushuahaMassiach, the Son of EL ELYON from the One Eternal God of Whom the above quotations speak. This is very important, and is fatal to Greek metaphysics.
@@biblicalunitarianYahushua was tempted; God cannot be tempted: therefore the Trinity theory is false. Let us carefully consider a few of the many statements of Scripture that show the "Trinity" theory to be untrue.
John 5:30, "...I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me."
This is Jesus speaking. It is perfectly understandable in the light of the scriptural picture that Jesus was a man wholly dependent upon God. But how can it be fitted into the Trinity picture? Let us not run from these clear testimonies, but reverently ponder them, seeking guidance in truth.
John 14:28, "...my Father is greater than I."
If we believe the scripture, we cannot believe the man-made doctrine that Jesus was co-equal with God. The whole record of the Gospels - the plain, literal record of the life and sayings of Christ is in direct and continuous variance with this doctrine. How could the "co-equal" Trinity theory be more directly denied than it is in these words of Jesus? Can black mean white?
Scores of statements could be given showing that Jesus was truly a man, truly fighting against sin, truly overcoming; truly learning, truly praying to the one true God who was greater than he. If Jesus was an all-powerful God just pretending to fight against temptation when really he could not be tempted, just pretending to pray to someone greater than himself for help and strength, then we in effect accuse the whole Gospel record of being a deception and a cruel mockery of man's real weakness, man's real and bitter struggle against sin.
@@therealgodd-l4u Jesus is not God!
What about the time where Jesus raised a gentleman from the dead where the people said God is among us. Jesus didn’t deny it.❤❤
Remeber what jesus said before he bought lazurus back. He said sorry to his father because he spoke of his own initiative, but knew his father would hear him. Jesus basically said his father is the reason he was able to do this, also it shows jesus has his own way of thinking.
But back to your question, if jesus said this to the crowd then he basically was showing this was God that did this, not himself, so it makes sense they said God is among us
If you've seen Jesus, you seen the father. Doesn't mean he is the father.
"God was in Christ reconciling the world to himself" God was in Christ with Christ in his fullness. Just like God is in us now... Doesn't mean us or Jesus was God
@@dbchillin7747 Yes it does. He said, From now on (from this point in his ministry) You do know Him and have seen him. Timothy did not get it. Show us the Father. Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father, how can you say show us the Father. Was Isaiah wrong. His name shall be called the mighty God, the Everlasting Father. Were the angels wrong, Emmanuel God with us. How about John. In the beginning was the Logos, The Logos, was with God, and the Logos was God. The Logos became flesh and made his dwelling among us. and we have seen His Glory.
@@liberatedspirit3554That's an ignorant way of trying to put it. Yes we can be one with God but we can never say when you see me you see the Father. Jesus Christ did. He's the only one who can say that. Jesus is the way to the Father. You and I are not. When you see Jesus you see the Father. To know Jesus is to know the Father. You receive the Father through the man Jesus Christ. He's the only one to see the Father before the world was. So his oneness with God is not like our oneness with God
so many trinitarians quoting their usual trinity proof verses. lol.
its embarrassing for sure.
Trinitarians are taught this doctrine from the start and view scriptures through that lens. But if one simply reads the texts for what they actually say, it’s said over and over that God is the Father, and Jesus is the Lord, his Son. It’s very plainly written. All sorts of mental gymnastics have to done to make Jesus God. And if it’s not answered within the trinity lens, it becomes a mystery. Which means Jesus failed, because he said he came to reveal God.
All kinds of mental gymnastics need to be done? No, Jesus calls himself Alpha and Omega - this is God's title alone.
@@KezzaTianzun Research the grammatical error in that translation. Btw... it wasn't Alpha and Omega... it was Aleph and Tev. Jesus didn't even speak Greek. He spoke Hebrew and Aramaic.
Btw... you may also find that that Aleph/Tev is not supposed to be read out loud in the text and not nouns. They're grammatical markers kind of like a comma. Look into it.
Do you read any other passages than a couple per verses when it is speaking of Jesus in his nature as many and actually see the ones that call Jesus God? ...I didn't think so.
@@TheSwordfish009Says the person who pretends they know something about language over people who have done the Greek translations for more days than you have read someone telling you squat. Jesus didn't write this, others who knew Greek dis, so that is shot down. You assume he didn't and where you came up with that is absurd.any He rewa especially in Commerce and Religion knew Greek or enough to speak it. But Jesus wasn't calling himself this, others did . I have come to the conclusion that Unitarians that deny Jesus Deity are a total AntiChrist religion and with out a doubt burn eternally in the lake of fire. They are just as wrong on other doctrines and when you actually see them, they are without any Holiness. You say it wasn't Alpha and Omega, but that simply isn't the facts. You assume none of the Apostles knew Greek and that is a fanciful idea,.
@bobjames3748 every time someone referred to him as God or claiming to be God, Jesus denied it.
He said over and over again that he is the SON of God and is subordinate to Him (Yahweh).
The first time I heard of unitarians I freaked out and wanted to study to correct them. Ended up finding your videos wanting to find out exactly what I needed to refute and ended up believing in unitarianism myself 😂 Thank you for your kind way of speaking truth and helping others see the error in their traditions. This channel has helped my family immensely!
Wow, thank you so much! That is so encouraging. Glad I could help. I'd love to hear more of your story, and where your family is at now. Feel free to friend request me on Facebook!
@@biblicalunitarian Alright, thank you! I sent a friend request this morning. Right now we're trying to find a church fellowship. We got kicked out of our church we had been going to, they are staunch trinitarians... We also sent out a brief email to about 15 churches to state our beliefs but where we overlap and wanted to find common ground with other Christians even if we don't agree on everything. The churches we emailed either didn't respond or we are not welcome. Please pray we can find a fellowship near us!
@@MusingMegan But that is not what the Bible teaches, Unitarianism. You are misinterpreting scripture. Jesus IS God and has claimed in all the Gospels.
John 8:58 "Before Abraham was born, I am!"
Colossians 1:15-20 Jesus is "the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation"
John 5:18 Jesus claims to be equal with God.
John 10:30 Jesus says, "The Father and I are one".
Jesus also claimed the authority to forgive sins and only God can forgive our sins, not man.
John 14:9 Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?
What would be the purpose of Jesus' sacrifice if He wasn't the Son of God, the second person as part of the Godhead?
Just because it doesn't specifically use those terms in the Bible doesn't make them any less valid. So yes, it is heresy to strip Jesus of His divinity which also devalues His position and purpose as part of God.
"Who, existing in the form of God, did not consider being equal with God a treasure to be grasped, But emptied Himself, taking the form of a slave, becoming in the likeness of men;" (Philippians 2:6-7)
Existing in the form which is image of God not "existing as God"
Believe Jesus is Christ, Son of God promises eternal life! Once Saved Always Saved! Salvation can NEVER be lost! Jesus Christ died for your sins, was buried, and rose again the 3rd day!
@@shanederry26912 Peter 1:1 ".....our Savior and God, Jesus Christ"
John 14:8 the disciples ask Jesus to show them the father. Jesus responds by saying I been with you for so long and you still don't know who I am? I am in the father and the father is in me.
@@trich103 You people are exhausting. 2 Peter 1:1 is ambiguous in wording. So you can't use it for proof of anything.
Catholic Public Domain Version
Simon Peter, servant and Apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who have been allotted an equal faith with us in the justice of our God and in our Savior Jesus Christ.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
Shimeon Petraus, a Servant and an Apostle of Yeshua The Messiah to those who, equal in honor with us, were worthy for the faith by the righteousness of Our Lord and Our Savior Yeshua The Messiah.
@@shanederry2691 Hairsplitting to prove they are right.
Trinitarians believe in one God, with three Persons. There is God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. Three in One. They are not the same person. They all exist at the same time. God the Father is not God the Son, God the Son is not God the Father, God the Holy Spirit is different from God the Father and God the Son. All are divine. All are eternal. All are equal. All are worthy of and receive worship. Jesus is Immanuel, which translated means "God With Us". Jesus refers to himself as "I AM", the same name that God used with Moses when Moses asked who should he say sent him. The reason why the religious leaders sent Jesus to be crucified is because they knew He was claiming to be the Messiah - the Son of God as referenced in the OT. If Jesus was not God in the flesh, the atonement is not sufficient. The Son of God was the term used in the Old Testament for the Messiah. Yes, there is God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. They are not the same person, but they are all divine, all equal in eternal nature, all equal in essence, and all worthy of worship. The Messiah cannot atone unless He is perfect, and sinless. A created being cannot atone for anyone. The atonement would not work, because a created being is by nature a sinner. Also, Jesus received worship many times. Only God receives glory and worship. God will not share His glory with another. However, when Jesus was still on this earth, He asks God to restore the glory He had with the Father in heaven. Jesus humbled Himself. He came in the form of a man, 100% God, 100% man. He added humanity to His divinity. When He speaks of God the Father, He is speaking as an obedient Son, not as a created Son, but as a unique, one of a kind, sinless, perfect Lamb of God. Again, the atonement would not be sufficient to satisfy God's requirement for payment of our sin debt if Jesus was simply a man. All men are created beings and are born with a sin nature. If you don't believe that Jesus is God in the flesh (not God the Father, but God the Son), who do you think Jesus is, and who do you think the Holy Spirit is?
@joannacarlson9481 Your argument hinges on the assumption that Jesus must be divine to atone for sins, but this is not supported by the Old Testament sacrificial system, where animals, not divine beings, atoned for sins. Jesus being referred to as "Son of God" doesn't necessitate divinity, as Israelites and angels were also called "sons of God" in the Bible. Jesus explicitly identifies the Father as the "only true God" in John 17:3 distinguishing himself from God. The Holy Spirit is God's active force, not a person, as it is not described with personal attributes consistently in the scriptures.
Can I just comment on the atonement aspect, on which you make an interesting point.
In the Law of Moses the animal offering was to be an unblemished specimen. That is, outwardly without spot. Jesus satisfied this by being sinless, because sin is the blemish or spot which marks us. He could definitely do that while still being a man, because of the important addition, that he was given the spirit without measure (John 3:34).
You suggest that a human being cannot atone because of the sinful nature that we have. Yet, that is exactly what Jesus needed to have in order to atone. Let me explain. In order to overcome sin, he had to have something to overcome. If he was God then he wasn't overcoming anything, because it would be impossible for him to sin. In order for sinless to mean anything, there has to be the possibility of sinning.
Hebrews 4:15 says that he was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. What does this mean, but that he must have shared our sinful human nature. Because it is our very nature that brings temptation. As James says, 'every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed' (Jam 1:14).
So with Jesus, he had the ability and possibility to sin, but didn't. He arrived at the cross as a sinless man, having overcome human nature. This is why we believe on him, because he's done something that no other man could do. And by putting our faith in him we share in his victory over sin.
Another relevant verse is Hebrews 2:14: 'Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil'.
This again shows how Jesus possessed our sinful nature. He took part of the same as what we have. And for what reason? That by dying he might destroy that which had the power of death. Did he destroy a supernatural being called the devil? No. Nobody destroys another being by dying. The only thing that gets destroyed by death is the body and whatever is in it. Therefore he destroyed the flesh nature that he bore. Our sinful human nature which has the power of death for each one of us.
If you have any questions I'm happy to discuss.
Thank you!
Are you also one human with three persons. It doesn't make sense because it's completely senseless and stupid. You change the very nature of God, this is semantics. God is a being who has a mind. If God has more than one mind or personality then it's more than one God. If you have to think to yourselves about something then it's more than one being. God doesn't mean anything with your views.
They really don't it's a complete nonsense. Three separate people with the same authority and attributes but be a type. Like you could get three identical siblings born at the same time. The type would be *Triplet humans* so they could be one set of triplets but they wouldn't be the same entity.
Thank you so much for your videos. This topic is so heavy for me since some years, and it's difficult to find people to discuss it :)
Jesus is God
If you want clear understanding as who God is and who is Jesus read the Quran. All your questions will be answered.
@@ranimouf I actually do :)
@@gnocchimitpestoundfeta89 Wow! You have an open mind. My brother in law who is a Christian won't even touch it for fear of betraying Jesus. This is called brain wash. I m a Muslim and l have no problem reading the bible.
Beautifully presented. Truth always prevails in the end.
The Father can't be the son in nature. There are so many simple logical statements for people who actually read the Bible. Many reject Christianity because they say "You have two gods."
Even from a basic common sense standpoint, a son can never exceed his father
The Trinity was created by Satan to keep people away from the Truth.
Who said that he did?
It is written - Matthew 24:10-13
Jesus obeys the 5th commandment
It is written - Philippians 2:5-8
It is written - John 1:14
It is written - John 14:6
It is written - John 3:16
Praise God! Thank You LORD Jesus for stepping down from your place in glory to put on flesh so that we all can be reconnected to our creator!
How do I get in contact with this church? Is it only virtual??
You can message: info@spiritandtruthonline.org
I fellowship with them online and go to a small biblical Unitarian home church too.
@@tim-lookingforward-scholte1180 Yeah, okay cool. I go to a Christadelphian church, which has similar doctrines.
Who is The Alpha and Omega in The Book of Revelation? It's Jesus Christ
The reader of Revelation should keep in mind that what they are reading is described as:
i) the revelation of Jesus Christ;
ii) the testimony of Jesus Christ;
iii) which God gave to Jesus;
iv) which Jesus gave to an Angel;
v) which John testified to;
(Revelation 1:1-2).
*Revelation 1:8; Revelation 22:13*
“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the LORD God (kyrios ho theos = YAHWEH), “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.”
"kyrios ho theos" always applies to YHWH, not to Jesus. That is why translators used "the LORD God....the Almighty." Jesus is never referred to as the LORD God YHWH or the Almighty.
The one “who is and who was and who is to come” is defined by a correct understanding of the context.
Revelation 1:4 and 5 which reads:
*_“Grace and peace to you from Him who is, and who was, and who is to come, and from the seven spirits before His throne, AND from Jesus the Messiah, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth.”_*
In Revelation 1:4-5 there is a separation between “the one who was, is, and is to come” and the Messiah. The one “who is, and who was and who is to come” is God (YHWH).
People who study Revelation need to realize from the start the following truths and then read on with understanding:
i) it's the revelation of Jesus Christ;
ii) it's the testimony of Jesus Christ;
iii) WHICH YHWH GAVE TO JESUS;
iv) which Jesus gave to an Angel;
v) which John testified to;
(Revelation 1:1-2).
So the voice in Revelation 1:8 and 1:11( a contested verse) is an ANGEL conveying to John the words of YHWH verbatim that the ANGEL would also have received verbatim from Jesus.
How will God YHWH come? He comes by revealing himself through the person of Jesus Messiah just as He did the first time.
"Alpha and Omega" are Greek letters. Neither God nor Jesus are Greek letters. This title belongs to YHWH, not Jesus. Most titles and names are interpreted in a figurative sense, and the context will determine who the title is applied to. Many titles for YHWH are sometimes conferred upon Jesus in the NT. The context determines whether the title is referring to YHWH or Jesus.....but these shared titles do not mean Jesus is YHWH.
The phrase “the Alpha and Omega,” is referred to by Hebrew scholars as a Hebraism. It was in common use among ancient Jewish Commentators to designate the whole of anything, "from the beginning to the end." For example: ‘Adam transgressed the whole law from Aleph to Tau'.
YHWH is truly the beginning and the end of all things, while Jesus is the beginning and the end because he is the firstborn from the dead, the Author and Finisher of our faith, the Man by whom YHWH will judge the world, and the man responsible for the age of Grace and the Kingdom age to come (see Heb. 1:10).
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*The First and the Last* can refer to YAHWEH in the OT and Jesus in the NT but that doesn't mean Jesus is YAHWEH being referred to by that title.
This should be obvious by a reading of Revelation 1:17-18.
17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as one dead. And he laid his right hand on me, saying, “Do not be afraid! I am the first and the last,
18 and the Living One, and I was dead, and behold, I am alive forever and ever, and I have the keys of death and of the grave.
YAHWEH was never dead, therefore Jesus is referred to as the first and the last without actually being YAHWEH.
The phrase, “the First and the Last,” is a title that is used five times in the Bible, twice in Isaiah in reference to God (44:6; 48:12) and three times in Revelation in reference to the Son of God (1:17; 2:8; 22:13).
In the Old Testament, YHWH is “the First and the Last.” Isaiah 41:4, it speaks of YHWH as *"having called forth the generations of men, and was with the first of them and is with the last of them."*
Obviously the phrase *“the First and the Last”* is connected with YHWH calling forth the first and last generations.
*_“Who has done this and carried it through, calling forth the generations from the beginning? I, the LORD (YHWH ADONAI)-am with the first of them and with the last-I am He.”_* Isaiah 41:4
Do you see that God called forth the generations in the Old Testament?
In the NT times, God has conferred that authority on His Son. Thus, it is easy to see why the Lord Jesus is called “the First and the Last” in the book of Revelation. It will be Jesus the Messiah who will call forth the generations of people from the grave to enter in to everlasting life. God gave Jesus the authority to raise the dead (John 5:25-27).
In all the works achieved by Jesus Messiah, surely he is the 'first and the last' appointed human prophet to redeem mankind from the power of sin. Jesus is also the "first from among the dead:"
*_And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy._* Colossians 1:18
The conclusion is that the title belongs to God himself and he has given that title to His Son. There is nothing in this title that makes Jesus the one true God YHWH. The Bible teaches God is the Father of Jesus Messiah. There is only one YHWH and only one begotten Son of YHWH.
Yes ..Someone who was dead.
Rev 1:17
Fear not; I am the first and the last:
18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore,
The Lord God raised Jesus from the dead.
1 Timothy 2:5
King James Version
5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
2 Corinthians 5:19
King James Version
19 To wit, that God was IN Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
They don't believe in the Book of Revelation, that is to plain calling Jesus the Lord God Almighty.
@@frankjones5283 You do know that Jesus said he would raise himself from the dead and thus he is that God.
I hope everyone wanting to believe that God raised Jesus from the dead but can’t understand the concept that God died get to hear this.
God did not die! Jesus died and God, his Father, raised him up. Gal 1:1-2
@@tim-lookingforward-scholte1180Yeah that's make Jesus not a God
@@tim-lookingforward-scholte1180 ,God did not die, the Son of God the man Christ, died as a kinsmen redeemer. God is Spirit, God is invisible, God is omnipresent, God had no body, save the tabernacle of flesh he begot.
Jesus is both the Deity God and the Son of God his Christ/Messiah.
@@bobjames3748 It is just as you said - "God did not die" God did not die for the sins of mankind, Jesus did. Therefore, Jesus is not God. People use the word "deity" to mean anything they want it to mean. Many call angels deity, or the archangels deities. That means nothing in comparison to calling Jesus as if he is the same being as God. How can he be God, the one God, and do things that God cannot, like die? How does Jesus get rid of being God to do that, but gain being God again afterwards? He either is God and he did not die, or he is not God and he died for our sins. The concept of the Trinity was developed by people trying to make sense of all the verses about the Father, Jesus, and holy spirit. But we know more about those verses now. We don't have to do grammatical gymnastics anymore. Jesus is great as the Son of God at the right hand of God over all. He is unified with God because he keeps himself in unity with God. He is living bodily in heaven today and God is inviting people to believe that He raised Jesus out from the dead and to confess Jesus as their Lord in order to receive salvation to themselves.
@@ajaxzaya0991 For sure it makes him someone other than the one God who the Bible calls "God". The word "god" in the English language might be used to describe Jesus in that he is a powerful being who is living in heaven and has everlasting life. Some might use those kinds of things to define him as "a God." Language is difficult at times. But looking at the whole Bible to help interpret the more difficult passages, we have to conclude that Jesus is someone other than Yahweh, the Father, God. The Bible does not include Jesus into the One God of Israel, nor the one God of Ephesians 4:6 in the New Testament.
The Trinity has pagan roots. Worshiping 3 sepearte entities as God is literally polytheism. God commanded in the OT we shall not worship any Gods other than him. The Trinity doctrine was made by 3rd century Greeks on the order of the ex-pagan emporer Constantine.
yup
Spirit & Truth brother! I prayed that God would remove all lie & preconceptions and give me His spirit and truth and He always showed me Bible scriptures that confirmed that Jesus is the son of God not God the son. He sits at the right hand of the Father. God is spirit, Jesus is a man born of the spirit.
Yep, I prayed a very similar prayer a few years ago as a Trinitarian. Thanks for the encouragement!
I have a question dear brothers and sisters. In the film The Chosen, there is a part there where Jesus says "I am The Law of Moses." What does that mean?
Jesus never says, "I am the Law of Moses." I assume it is some creative thinking from the Chosen to play on the seven "I am" statements of John. I assume they would be meaning that Jesus fulfills the Law of Moses.
Son of God means not the God. Case solved.
Jesus is also a man on Mary's side and was born of the holy spirit on God's side. This makes him the ONLY begotten son of God. Jesus is also God, for "in him live all of the Godhead, bodily."
@@RichardAberdeen-cn8rg Keep in mind Paul was writing in present tense, after Jesus was already resurrected and glorified
@@quite3560 Jesus is God. "This is the true God and eternal life." You cannot change who God is, regardless of what you believe.
@@freedomtracksrecords4452
you're appealing to the antecedent to say this is speaking of jesus. That interpretation would imply Christ is actually antichrist according to the same author
2 John 1:7
For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
You cannot change who God is according to what you believe
@@freedomtracksrecords4452
You're appealing to the antecedent to say it's speaking of Jesus. That interpretation implies Christ is actually antichrist according to the same author (2 John 1:7)
You cannot change who God is, regardless of what you believe.
Thanks for the video …
It really seems like basic comprehension to understand these concepts...but "tradition" blockers are hard to see thru
Thats right. And he called himself a "son of man" which reflects his origins in Eve, the source of all mankind. Gen3:15. "the SEED of the woman shall bruise the head of the serpent."
John clearly says "In the beginning was logos and logos was with God and logos was God. . . "All things were made through him." "Logos" is clearly referring to Jesus, if you read the rest of the chapter in context.
In the Old Testament, God refers to himself as "I AM". In the New Testament, Jesus says, before Abraham was, I AM". Every Jew of the First Century understood that to mean Jesus is God, which is why the religious leaders picked up stones to stone Jesus. Thus, Jesus did say he is God.
@@freedomtracksrecords4452 Well the gnostics claim that the Logos a demigod, made the creation, but another angle is "logos" is simply the greek word for the english "word" and a definition of either is "a spoken or written communication."
As i have repeatedly pointed out God spoke the creation into being with a spoken word, and promised a messiah from Israel throughout scripture, and scripture is written in words and preached in words.
So why keep using an untranslated greek word amongst translated english words when you make this claim.
Its either to sound religious or mysterious, or you are Gnostic.
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@@ken440 I don't care at all what Gnostics claim. "In the beginning was logos; and logos was with God and logos was God. John goes on to clearly identify Jesus as logos. The Greeks understood that Logos means God's universal and beyond view; ultimate truth and wisdom. Only God has God's universal and beyond view.
@@freedomtracksrecords4452 I was trying to jolt you into switching your brain on. You are simply using "logos" to sound holy.
Its greek, it simply means "word" and so why do you only use greek for that single word, why not put write all of John1:1 in greek?
All of Gods intent and wisdom was in His logos spoken in Gen3:15 when He promised one of Eves decendants would destroy the corrupt rebellion of ha satan. (note i am doing what you are doing, i am using hebrew for the satan, which simply means "advesary")
God spoke that logos as a promise of redemption of corruption by the satan.
God spoke with words, logos, in Deut18:18 in promising a descendant of the people of Israel (so far both humans) will be the great one who God will work THROUGH speak THROUGH.
Its all spoken, promised in "words" which in greek is "logos" (because the writer of John1 used greek language) and in the course of time that promise spoken in Gods strong wisdom words, became true, was born, one of the flesh and blood dudes as promised all over Gen, Deut, prophets, all scripture, OT, which is all recorded in words (logos) and Jesus points this out in a few places (e.g. jn8:40)
And Peter points it out (Acts2:22).
Your use of "Logos" showing you are trying to make it something greater than its language understanding, that of a spoken or written communication.
That is known as INFLATION OF PIETY.
And that is religion at its worst, twisting meanings, creating heirachies and laity, the work of the nicolatans. be careful brother/sister.
This trinity idea might be gnostic influence from the church fathers in the centuries following the hebrew born apostles.
For much of Christianity, it seems like truth is a social convention. What the majority across history have said MUST be true, so they invent a holy spirit (that is not God's Holy Spirit) to justify by a hand-wave the ignorance of the majority, all the while ignoring Jesus's words:
"Enter by the narrow gate,
for wide is the gate
and broad is the way
that leads to destruction,
and there are many who go in by it.
Because narrow is the gate
and difficult is the way
which leads to Life,
and there are few who find it."
I got the first like! Thank you for responding to YHVH's prompting and doing this work. You managed to find a perfect spirit in your delivery; calm, knowledgeable, endearing, yet factual and to the point.
My own personality would add 1 more step - instead of just "thinking for a sec" it would be, reorganizing our faith and repenting. on one hand, we can claim ignorance, however innocent, idolatry is why the greatest commandment exists, the sh'ma, and not a small matter.
This video does very well, like many others explaining this issue, it is so clear it makes trinitarians into complete knuckleheads to not see this. To not think through the logic presented.
Added to what is said here, all the references made here to "Christ" are saying "anointed" or "anointed one" as "christ" is derived from greek 'christos" which means "anointed."
This actually to me points to dishonesty in translation. Everywhere we see Christ we should see Anointed, in context to text. But translation way back in religious church terminology turned the greek word for "anoint" into a religious name, and Luther didnt fix that detail, so its stuck in the craw of churchianity.
Those verses read out here, like 2Cor5:18 "but all this is from God who reconciled us to Himself through Christ" and in that its true meaning is ".....reconciled us to Himself through the anointed" and we ask ourselves "anointed what" and it is super obvious, as an offspring Of David as promised, the messiah, that this "christ" means the anointed son of David, the promised Messiah !!" All kings are "anointed." All the explanations here about Jesus representing, imaging, saying and doing what God did through him are meaning just that, Jesus is doing this and saying all this in book of John, through Gods ANOINTING !!
Its all so obvious that it staggers me the trinitarian majority is so blind, and it can only be a spiritual blindness brought on by their own stubborn inability to truly seek truth, but they only subscribe to church doctrine without that personal "seek out your (own) salvation with fear and trembling." Something that after nearly 40 years as a trinitarian, just the same in accepting denominational dogma, I began to do 6 years ago, and it all just exploded into plain view. I had complacently let others tell me what verses meant, like that Jesus is God, lies every one. !!
Wake up trinitarian who slumbers with only part truth, time grows short. Dont rely on your majority position, it is very unbiblical for a majority to be in the truth!
Amen .. and Anyone who is anointed required someone higher up to anoint him.
@@frankjones5283 yep 😁
Good points. I would just add that God demands that we practice and speak the truth whether it be popular or not. If we look at the majority of created beings it may be that most are actually loyal worshipers of God. (Taking into account the numerous spirit beings that exist and outnumber the ones who satan (resist) God.)
Even though it is wonderful and joyous to know and worship God in an orderly assembly of others who do so, each one must render an account to God on their own.
Great job on allowing understanding to come and studying scripture deeply and honestly.
if one part of the bible is "mistranslated" ALL of the bible is fallible .
❤❤Good and yes the ANOINTING is His Holy Spirit. Yahweh is Spirit. So the ONLY HOLY SPIRIT is the Father. Now we are GETTING SOMEWHERE
Luke 4:18
The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised...
Isaiah 61
1The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;
I would like a TRANSLATION where Christ is TRANSLATED anointed.
God humbled himself and BECAME man. And he set the example for man by making statements like this. Jews always wanted this boisterous God but in reality God humbles himself by becoming his own creation and truly understanding and guiding them. Do not be deceived. Cheers. Jesus Christ is God incarnate.
We are in the last days so false teaching is ALL over the internet. The attack on the Deity of Christ is on par for the enemy. The false church and counterfeit Christianity is EVERYWHERE. It ALWAYS starts with attacking the incarnation.
Beautiful and simple way to explain the deity of Jesus while He was on this earth. And I do not ever recall Jesus denying that He is God. He diverted the attention away from Himself and to God the Father so that we might know He (Jesus) IS God in the flesh. He states in both Mark 10:18 and Matthew 19:17 that there is none good but God. But, we all agree that Jesus is GOOD.
... But Jesus is the Son of God
@@thecapitalg Yeah thats what happens when a deity is creator and creation simultaneously. He's not conformed to the laws of a mere human.
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I have a thought. We know scripture says Jesus is seated at the right hand of the Father but nowhere are we told the Father is seated at the left hand of Christ. 😉 God is much much greater.
Yeah you're right, Father is greater than the Son
1 Corinthians 15:28
And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
@@mcandler_the_unscottish What ignorance the unitarians will have a ND they cannot understand the dual nature of Jesus as the God and man. You cannot see Rev.22:1,3-4 and grasp what it is saying, or Zech 12:10 or that our saviour is God and Jesus is spoken as our saviour, so then we would have.
Isa 62:11.
Why you a kid seeing Jesus called both Lord and God in John 20:28!
You people cannot understand that Jesus is 100% man and this would not grasp after divine prerogatives and call himself God as such, but would not deny those who understood he was Deity. You tell me what Rev.22:1,3-4 means ? I think because of your sins and not believing the Bible correctly and denying his full deity miss that He is Lord God Almighty in Rev. 4:8.
John 20:28-29 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
How would you explain this?
Great question, stay tuned for a video entitled, "Do 12 different people call Jesus God?" It addresses that verse.
It's explained in this video as well by referring to v 31 of the same chapter, as it clarifies Jesus' clear identity
““My Lord and my God!” Thomas exclaimed. Then Jesus told him, “You believe because you have seen me. Blessed are those who believe without seeing me.””
John 20:28-29 NLT
Even a fool need not to error therein, when we read what is written, and not come in with our preconceived denominational theories, then we see God’s Word in all its glory and simplicity. Our God and Father rejoices when He is established as the one and only God and Creator and when Jesus Christ the Son is given His place as Redeemer and Lord over the Creation, seated at God’s right hand, who is soon returning as King of Kings and Lord of Lords! Great teaching and sharing. Thank you!
John clearly says "In the beginning was logos and logos was with God and logos was God. . . "All things were made through him." "Logos" is clearly referring to Jesus, if you read the rest of the chapter in context.
In the Old Testament, God refers to himself as "I AM". In the New Testament, Jesus says, before Abraham was, I AM". Every Jew of the First Century understood that to mean Jesus is God, which is why the religious leaders picked up stones to stone Jesus. Thus, Jesus did say he is God.
@@freedomtracksrecords4452 Dont know why some people are blind to this. they think too much materialistic or physical world, instead of spiritual I guess. Three in one, Not three different Gods, But all three One God.
In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God.
The greek term for "word" is Logos. It does not mean Christ, or the Son.
@@garywinslow7595
John 1:14
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Yes the greek is logos, translated to word in english as we obviously see, but Jesus is the Word of God. Revelation 19:13 says his name is called the Word of God.
@Thrasher796 You grossly misunderstand the intended meaning. The Logos is explained in scripture what it means. That Logos became flesh meaning it was fulfilled in the flesh of Christ because Christ expressed the Father and eternal life with Him. Before Christ was born, the Logos was God's expression or plan for us. It was not a 2nd person. 1John 1.1-3 explains this. You are ASSUMING the meaning based on human reasoning.
@@garywinslow7595 in John chapter 1 the Word is not just merely just a plan expressed through Jesus’ life. Its refered to as a he(a person) that all things were made by him. Colossians 1 attests to this as well that all things were made by him and for him
@@garywinslow7595Well yes the Word was fulfilled in a human bc the Word literally became human. Before Jesus had the title Son of God he was the Word of God. The speech of God the emotions of God. When the Word became flesh the Word was the expressed personality of God. The Word never stopped being God even when he became flesh.
Christ is Lord!
John 20:27, 28 Explained
27Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. 28And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
So the question is: When Thomas and the other disciples saw Jesus did they see God?
A number of years after John and the other disciples were in the room when the Risen Savior appeared, John wrote his Gospel. (John1:18) No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. And (1John 4:12,13) No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.13Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.
(1Tim.6:16) Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
Thomas said “My Lord and My God”, Yet John who was also in the room with Thomas said ”No man hath seen God at any time”. Is there a contradiction here? The Bible does not contradict itself, scripture explains scripture.
(John 14:7-11) If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
8Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. 9Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? 10Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.11Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.
(John 3:34) For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.
Therefore Jesus had the Spirit of God dwelling within him without measure, Jesus was not by himself, God was dwelling within him, so there is no contradiction, Thomas was correct because he remembered Jesus' teachings, and John is also correct. If we want to see God and to know what He's like, see Jesus because he is the image of the Father, with The Father dwelling within him in full measure, But we should also be able to see God in each other because we are the temple of the Holy Spirit.
(Matt.5:14-16) 14Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.15Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.16Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
When the disciples saw Jesus they could see God dwelling within him, That's why Thomas was able to say “My Lord and my God” without contradicting the scriptures.
So therefore when people see us they should also see God within us. Praise God!
Please explain how Jesus was given all authority and judgement when the Bible tells us many times, i.e., 43:11, I am God, only I am God, and there is no savior beside me.
God tells us in Isaiah, I will not give my glory to another.
When it says he will not give "His" glory that means the glory of God. Jesus is never given the glory of God, but he is given glory, just as Christians will also get glory at the resurrection (Col. 3:4; Heb. 2:10). Getting Glory does not make you God.
Also, being given authority and judgement means you aren't God, nobody can give God more authority and judgement, he has it all.
Thank you for your response.
@@sharononeill6477 Think of Joseph betrayed by his brothers, then raised by egypts pharaoh. Its a foreshadow.
Joseph brings a message to his brothers.
His brothers resent him and figurativly kill him.
He ends up a humble slave servant in a prison.
Pharaoh raises him.
Pharaoh seats him at pharaohs right hand, for rulership in a coming time of trouble.
Pharaoh gives him all power and authority in the whole nation from Pharaohs right hand (except over pharaoh himself) And Joseph is NOT Egyptian!
Joseph deals wisely with the problem.
Joseph blesses Egypt as 2iC.
Joseph forgives and saves his brothers.
Joseph sets his family up in a place of refuge.
Joseph isnt egyptian. Jesus isnt God. Both obedient lowly servants with a heart to bless.
All for a period of time. a time of trouble.
Read 1Cor15:28. there we have Paul looking forward to the end of the "day of the Lord" the end of the worlds future time of trouble, to a point at end of millenium kingdom, when Jesus GIVES BACK THAT LORDSHIP that he was given in Acts2:36. So that God can AGAIN be all in all.
Gods Edenic purpose restored and advanced, spiritual rebellion defeated. By a humble lowly servant that God empowered and trusted to the task.
Hope that helps you see the bigger picture.
Hello... Who Created All Things? The Triune God Through The Word Of God / Jesus!!! Jesus Christ is The Word Of God who became human.
YAHWEH alone created the Universe. Jesus was given authority to create the spiritual conditions, principalities, and powers to govern his followers.
Colossians 1:16 has nothing to do with the Genesis creation. "ALL" is not used in the universal sense in this verse. ALL things are defined in the text itself. Go read it again.
Jesus is the Word? PROVE IT from scripture. The KJV translators gave no reason for turning "ho logos" into a proper noun and name.....and Jesus isn't even mentioned in John 1:1.
NOWHERE is Jesus ever referred to as the word.
An Exegetical Commentary on John's Prologue
PART 2 by Don Smith.
John 1:1
*In the beginning WAS THE WORD (HO LOGOS)*
Greek word Logos: a word (as embodying an idea), a statement, a speech. Logos is a common Greek term that is used 330 times in the NT. The popular view in John's day was to define the logos as words and the thoughts behind the words expressed through speech, writing, a message, news, architecture, or works of art.
LOGOS was a Greek word used hundreds of years prior to the birth of Jesus. Logos was used by philosophers to mean ‘the active reason of the creator behind the universe’. The writer of the prologue uses the definite article "ho" (THE) meaning God's Logos (word).
"By the word of the LORD were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth. He gathereth the waters of the sea together as an heap: he layeth up the depth in storehouses. Let all the earth fear the LORD: let all the inhabitants of the world stand in awe of him. For he spake, and it was done; he commanded, and it stood fast." Psalms 33:6-9
Quote:
"The Greek language is a gender based language, therefore a Greek reading verses 2 to 14 will not read these verses and understand houtos and autos as referring to a person. Houtos and autos point back to "the word" which is an object. Since ho logos is a masculine word in Greek, and there is no Greek word for the English preposition "it," when translators come across autos and houtos as pointing to an object and not a person, "it" conveys the correct meaning to an English reader."
~Jean-Philippe Parent
It is incorrect to insist that "pros" points to another person (Jesus) as having an eternal preexistent relationship with YHWH. What John is telling us is exactly what the Bible teaches: the Gospel is of the same eternal and divine substance as what YHWH is. There is an eternal relationship between YHWH and His word without the word being the person of Jesus.
In John 1:1c there is no definite article before theos. Since there is no definite article used here while there is a definite article in 1:1b (ton theon) which actually points to (ho logos) as being in fact the same as God in Nature. Hence, in 1:1c it is correct to translate to English as follows:
"and divine [theos] was the word [ho logos]."
Both God and His word are the same in nature: spirit, eternal, divine, light, life.
The word of God is God's word.
"Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever." Psalms 119:160
Revelation 19:11-13 specifically says that God's name is the word of God.
"And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God."
Here we see that the rider on the white horse cannot be Jesus because the rider bears a name that no one else knows but Him. That excludes Jesus from being the rider. Only YHWH can know something no one else knows. Jesus cannot know things that YHWH says only He knows.
The expression “the word of God” appears 5 times in Revelation and numerous times throughout the Bible. It almost always refers to a message from God with the exception of Revelation 19:13 where it is used as a name for YHWH. Everywhere else "the word of God" is a message from God, His spoken word, or the written word of God.
The Bible never refers to Jesus as the word ("HO LOGOS.") The word of God is what God is, and what he speaks.
Rather, Jesus claimed to be the messiah through whom YHWH chose to reveal Himself and His logos (the Gospel) to the world.
The logos of John 1:1-5 and 1 John 1:1-6 is the Gospel message, not a person.
"Beloved, I am not writing a new commandment to you, but an old commandment that you had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word that you heard.:
So, 1 John 2:7 has the writer referring to back to 1 John 1:1 "that which we seen, heard, etc. in the beginning" and refers to it as a commandment, not Jesus. Jesus is not a commandment, and not the word.
Jesus said:
"these words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me." (John 14:24) Also SEE John 7:15-18; John 8:28; John 12:49-50; John 14:10.
The belief that "the word" is the person of Jesus comes from pagan mysticism and philosophy. The eternal word of God becoming the begotten mortal Jesus causes numerous conflicts throughout the Bible. God and His word are never referred to as BEGOTTEN or BORN in the Bible.
In the Hebrew Bible the word "dabar" is used instead of logos. Dabar in the Old Testament is never a person or spokesman. Dabar is a message, promise, command, word, or the thoughts behind the words. No lexicon of the Hebrew Bible lists dabar as a person, God, angel, or man. The dabar, or word of YAHWEH is his possession, and never a person in the Hebrew Bible. The same can be said for the Greek Bible when referring to the logos or word of God.
The logos is the Good News a.k.a. the Gospel of the Kingdom (Luke 3:2 and Luke 4:43) preached by John the Baptist and Jesus from "the beginning" of the NT Age.
Biblical Evidence:
1. ACTS 10:36-39
"You know the message (logos) YHWH sent to the people of Israel, announcing the good news of peace THROUGH Christ Jesus, who is Lord of all.
Here we see the message described as the good news sent to the people of Israel through Jesus. Peter does not say Jesus is the word.
2. LUKE 3:2
"The word of God came to John the Baptist and he went around Judea preaching a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins.."
3. Romans 10:8-9
"But what does it say? "The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart," that is, the message concerning faith that we proclaim: If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved."
4. Romans 10:17
"Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of GOD."
5. Romans 1:16
"The Gospel message is the power of God that leads men to salvation."
6. 1 Corinthians 1:18
"For the word (logos) of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of GOD."
7. Romans 1:16
"For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile."
8. 1 Corinthians 15:2
"By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain."
9. 1 JOHN 1:1-3
"The gospel declared from the beginning is referred to as "the word of life."
10. Philippians 2:16
".....as you hold firmly to the word of life."
11. John 6:63
"....the words I speak are spirit and life..."
12. Therefore many of his disciples, when they heard this, said, “This is a hard saying (ho logos); who is able to hear it (autos)?” John 6:60
CONCLUSION:
"The word" in John 1:1-5 is the Gospel, the word of life, the light that enlightens those who receive it, the message preached by Jesus from the beginning. Through Jesus God revealed the Gospel message (logos) to humanity. The word enters into, and dwells in, all those who hear it and believe.
Question to all believers:
What verse in the Bible establishes Jesus as ho logos (the word) in John 1:1?
The word of God is and always will be God's word because it's integral to Him. God's word is His word the same as a person's word is their word.....but even more so when it comes to God and His word.
JOHN 1:14
*WHY THE WORD DID NOT BECOME FLESH.*
NOTE: Rules of Greek grammar don't apply when the conclusion results in conflict with essential doctrines to our salvation. Knowing who YHWH is, who Jesus is, and who Paul is and what they taught, are all essential to our salvation.
I have preserved the Greek text and translated it word for word into English to be compatible with John's Gospel, and the rest of the Bible. The Greek word "egeneto" can be, and sometimes is, translated as "came to" in the Bible. See part 7 for examples.
Egeneto has a broad array of uses in the Bible and according to Lexicons it is translated with great latitude. That means the context has to be carefully considered. If an English word is chosen that conflicts with the Bible then it must be discarded. In the context of John's prologue, his Gospel, and the entire N.T., translating "egeneto" as "became" results in conflict with the Bible, whereas "came to" works perfectly with the entire Bible.
Greek text:
"kai ho logos sarx egeneto kai eskēnōsen en hēmin kai etheasametha ten doxan autou doxan hōs monogenous para Patros plērēs charitos kai alētheias."
My compatible English translation:
"and the word came to humanity and dwelt in us, and we beheld (perceived it with our minds) it's glory, (a glory like that of the only begotten of the Father), full of grace and truth."
THE GLORY was "like that of the only begotten of the Father.
This means similar to that which they perceived was at work in Jesus. It does not mean "is Jesus."
Consider John 17:22-24; and 2 Corinthians 4:6. No one could truly behold, understand, perceive, contemplate, or know what it is like to be Jesus, or to be the Glory of God, or to be the only begotten sinless Son of God....but we can experience the glory of YHWH's word working in us....the same word and glory that worked in Jesus.
John is telling us that the same word of God that was at work in Jesus entered into him and the disciples when they heard and believed the words Jesus taught them. They experienced it's transforming effect on their hearts and minds. They experienced the Grace and Truth working in them. That's the "glory" referred to.
The traditional translation of John 1:14 conflicts with:
Deuteronomy 18:18; 1 Kings 21:17; Jeremiah 1:4; 1 Chronicles 17:3; Hosea 1:1; 2 Chronicles 12:7; Genesis 15:4; Genesis 15:1; Ezekiel 6:1; Jeremiah 1:2, 11; Jeremiah 13:8; Mark 1:1; Mark 1:11, Luke 3:2; Luke 9:35....and many more scriptures.
The Bible does not support the traditional translation of John 1:14.
"....I will raise them up a prophet from among their brothers [Israelites], like you [Moses], and I will put my words IN HIS MOUTH [Jesus] and he will speak to them [Israelites] all that I command him. Deuteronomy 18:18; also see Acts 3:22
The word of God was to be placed into Jesus by YHWH Himself. That means the word of God could not have become the flesh of Jesus.
No other verse in the Bible conveys the idea: "the word became flesh" (Jesus).
"Flesh" in this context is referring to "humanity; (everyone, all people, or mankind) and not just one person.
Jesus did not die to save himself. He died to save humanity. Check Acts 2:17 where Peter quotes Joel 2:28 where the Greek word "sarx" in many translations is rendered as human kind, humanity, all the people, etc.. Other translations use "flesh" but the meaning is "all of humanity."
Paul also uses flesh as a reference to all of humanity where he states:
"no flesh is justified by the works of the law" (Romans 3:20; Galatians 2:16).
The writer of the prologue moves the reader to focus on the entrance of God's word into the hearts and minds of people where it transforms them, which effects the complete flow of human activity and affairs (when enough people believe it).
John 1:14 is a summary of YHWH's purpose behind the the NT Gospel, which is to fulfill prophecy by having His word and spirit dwell in people to sanctify, justify, enlighten, transform, and give them eternal life.
John 1:14 cannot be translated to conflict with Deuteronomy 18:18, or any other verses in the Bible.
YHWH prophesied "My spirit will be in you and My laws will be written in your hearts. (Jeremiah 31:33).
Jesus stated the words he spoke are spirit. John 6:63
Words don't become flesh. Words are spirit.
Spirit does not become flesh. John 3:6
Spirit enters into the heart and mind and is expressed vocally, in the form of a creative work of art, in a written work, or some form of expression.
If the word of God is not in you, then the spirit of God is not in you.
@@johnspartan98those two posts were very good reads, thanks for taking the time to write them
@@johnspartan98 Revelation 19:11-16 "The Rider on a White Horse"
1. Jesus Christ is identified as the faithful witness in Revelation 1:5, He is also the truth according to John 14:6.
2. The Lamb is identified as the Lord of lords and King of kings in Revelation 17:14
Thus, without any doubt, the Word of God in Revelation 19:13 is indeed Jesus Christ.
By the way you said Romans 1:16 "For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation.." compare it with 1 Corinthians 1:24 that literally says "Christ is the power of God and the wisdom of God."
Is it just a coincidence between Romans 1:16 and 1 Corinthians 1:24?
Jesus would never put himself into his fathers position. But one thing to keep in mind is what Jehovah's Witnesses have been saying for over 100 years, and it is the fact that the Hebrew word for God is Elohim, and we need to understand that in the Bible the word for God is "Elohim" and means "Mighty ones" Now in today's modern language we have restricted the word "God" to mean the "almighty" basically the creator, but that was NOT so in the Bible days !
And I will show you. For example did you know that people, kings and judges in the Bible were CALLED Gods ?
To illustrate, Psalms 82 says: (now this is God speaking)
1 God takes his place in the divine assembly;
In the middle of the gods* he judges:
And Vs 6
“I have said, ‘You are gods,
All of you are sons of the Most High.
Did you notice how even Jehovah calls them "Gods" and HE says "I have said "You are Gods" ......so the question is HOW were they Gods ? And when we have come up with the answer to that, then we will answered the question "How can Jesus be a God " !
Did you know Moses too was called "God" so was not that polytheism ?
So if God can give the title of God to angles and people then WHY can't he give the same title to his son?
Hi! You might want to check in the Original Hebrew text for Psalms 82 whether, the word 'God' is g or G, like-wise Isaiah 9 & Hebrew 1. It's all upper case letter.
And in the Bible, the's no where Moses, or the angels are Authorized to be worshipped. Lastly, Isaiah 45:6,18,21-23 God keeps saying;'There's no other god'
Jesus says, "I and the father are one." John clearly says "In the beginning was logos and logos was with God and logos was God. . . "All things were made through him." "Logos" is clearly referring to Jesus, if you read the rest of the chapter in context.
In the Old Testament, God refers to himself as "I AM". In the New Testament, Jesus says, before Abraham was, I AM". Every Jew of the First Century understood that to mean Jesus is God, which is why the religious leaders picked up stones to stone Jesus. Thus, Jesus did say he is God.
Wrong, the Jews who knew the language and were not pretending like J.W. to know language and make up their own sayings. Elohim never meant a plural of beings but a plurality of attributes and power. Jeh. WItneases are not saved, cannot be in the error they are in. Charles Taze Russell was shamed in court regarding his ability to read any languages of the Bible. The false dating of events out them in the false prophet category and lands then in hell
The bible clearly describe God as Lord and Jesus claim he is the Lord. So it seems very clear that Jesus is God in human form. And because he is in human form, he is very dependent on God the father. He has to pray to the father just like every human, and be dependent on the father for every instruction day after day. Now why did God decided to do it this way. Maybe it's to set an example on how to truly follow God with all your heart soul and strength.
So the son lost all the qualities that make him god when he was in human form?
@@christophercano4809 He gave up his Godly powers but not his character.
Hebrews 2:9 But we do see Jesus, who was made lower than the angels for a little while.
I use to believe that since Jesus is God himself he can create another universe if he wanted to.
But as I kept reading the bible throughout the years.
I learned that is he not omnipotent like God.
But the bible does say Jesus is the one who did create the universe...
Colossians 1
-15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
-16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him.
@@abcmaya Well said @abcmaya
God is LORD - YHWH. Jesus is Lord. Removing YHWH from the translations has also caused confusion on this issue.
@@gabbie921Exactly. The greek term kyrios replaced YHWH in both the OT and NT which led people to equate the two. I sympathize with people that have been confused by this
Finally a great speaker... Truly i do believe God is God n Jesus is The Son of God...I am Catholic n i will never ever call a Priest Father...
So why are you catholic
Why would anyone call Jesus God?
Jesus was God's Envoy.
People who can believe that God was man who could get himself killed needs to come to terms with reality.
The Jews knew Exodus 33:20.
Setting eyes on God would spell death.
Very clear from Scripture that Jesus is NOT God, but fully MAN. Just as the first Adam was, so also the last/second Adam. MAN. And that man had/has a God. That means that Jesus is NOT God. So simple.
yup
So you even read the Bible or have some Unitarian lying mess of a minister spout that to you? I have posted to several people scriptures that a blind man can see Jesus is God, not from him declaring as the man Christ and grasp after divines as the Son and Christ. But in others in Revelation for 1:8 Rev 4:8 Rev22:13,16, Jude 25, John 14th Chapter exposes your doctrine but Just like Trinies , you people miss what Jesus says about Being the Father in a enigmatic speech and the Comforter. Unitarians were part of the Arian monstrosity that denied Jesus as fully God though plenty is scriptures show it.
Jesus is God, do not be led astray
Philippians 2:5-11. ~ Paul explains to the church that Jesus did not find it robbery to be equal with the Father, but chose to come down as a bondservant.
Also Luke 4:41 ~ Jesus was healing many from divers diseases and many demons came out of these people, even the demons were afraid of Jesus knowing He was the Son of God. All throughout scripture of the N.T Jesus has done many miracles, a man does not have the ability to do that unless He was Holy and had the authority of God Himself. No man is sinless but Jesus, How would a man be born sinless and remain sinless? Yet even legion which means many demons were casted from a man by Jesus power and yet they begged Jesus to put them in swine because they didn’t want to be destroyed for ETERNITY, if Jesus was just a man the demons would not be so fearful. Only God has the ability.
Also through scripture Jesus chose to forgive many who have sinned and also healed them. Luke 7:40-48 ~ Mark 2:7 (Pharisees knew that only God can forgive sin)
Revelation 21:3-8 (God says He is the alpha and the omega, the first and the last) -> Revelation 22:12-16 (Jesus says He is the alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last) ~ Why would Jesus claim that?
Isaiah 44:6 (God says He is the first and the last and beside Him is no God) -> Revelation 1:17-18 (Jesus makes that same statement, after He was resurrected, aren’t you going to believe the man who resurrected after being clinically dead 3 DAYS)
Isaiah 41:4 (not the only scriptures where God says He is the first and the last and yet Jesus said that’s who He is)
Revelation 2:8 (says He is the the first and the last again)
Isaiah 42:8 (He said He will not give His glory to any other) -> John 16:14-16 ( Jesus claims that God will glorify Him; DEFINITION of Glorify is To give glory, honor, or High praise to. He also said all things the father has are His and even said that the people would not see Him because He was going back to the Father)
Isaiah 43:10-13 (God said that before Him was there no other God formed and neither shall there be after Him which states God has just always been. He also said that beside Him is not savior, and before the day was, God was always there) -> John 3:16-17 (God sent His ONLY Begotten; DEFINITION of Begotten is naturally exists, so Jesus wasn’t just created by God so it’s His son, no Jesus already existed before He came to Heaven that’s another reason why it says Jesus was SENT so through HIM we would be SAVED, If God said there is no savior beside Him then what would that make Jesus… GOD) -> 2 Peter 3:18 (Peter says that Jesus is our LORD & SAVIOR and then says glory goes to Him both now and FOREVER) all over scripture it says Jesus is our lord and savior, that can’t be hidden we know this.
John 14:6 (Jesus says He is the way the truth and the life, no man cometh to the father but through Him, why would Jesus just call Him the father if He wasn’t apart of the GodHead? Wouldn’t He just call Him God?
Yet again He does say that neither does He or the angels know when the time of the end shall come but the Father, but He also was limited to a human beings body and yet wasn’t fully God, He came to not receive praise from men but to give praise all to the father because yet again Jesus was half man.
John 14-19
1 Timothy 16-17
Also read John 4 (Talks about the woman at the well)
It amuses me how people try to use John to prove Jesus is not God. When John is the book that presents most strongly that Jesus is God. Right from the opening verse, Jesus (the Word)
is God.
Please watch this video, it addresses your exact point - th-cam.com/video/wdilSjUkk0A/w-d-xo.html
@@biblicalunitarian You made a point there that John 1:1 says the Jesus is divine and that Jesus is not God the Father. But Trinitarians agree with that. The point is, you believe that there is a created thing that is divine and have God-attributes. I think only God has God-attributes and therefore if John is saying the Word (Jesus) is divine (having God-attributes) - that's just to say Jesus is God in the fullest sense of being God.
it amuses me that you see John proving Jesus is God, when John is written addressing gnostic incursion.
Read jn8:40 a few times. And then jn8:43 and apply that one to the pharisees saying Jesus existed before Abe.
You are reading the book from a assumptive position you have been conditioned to understand, by religious tradition.
An analytic read would see jn1:1 as speaking about what it says, that Gods word, the promise of redemption, has been there from the beginning. Its now recorded and printed in what most churchians cling to dearly and call "The word of God."
@@ken440 Gnostic belief denying the humanity of Jesus? That MAY be the case. John did affirm the humanity of Christ. But not just that, John affirmed Christ's DEITY. I accept these two sets of data (that Christ s was truly God and truly man), the unitarian just wants to accept one set (that Christ was truly human).
@@ken440 The Word, who was in the beginning with God and was God, and by whom all things were made, became flesh and dwelt among us. So saying Word only means God's "uttered speech or promise" is very poor analysis of the text. The Logos is clearly referring to Jesus. Only by strained and radical exegesis can you try to escape what John is saying. John is saying Jesus is God. Moreover in verse 18, John calls Jesus the Only Begotten God. Twice in the prologue John calls Jesus God.
I recently came across this channel and I’m really enjoying the content it helps me to understand this point of view a whole lot more with good research and understanding. I noticed that there hasn’t been much activity within the past 4 years, are you all planning on getting more active or is there another channel or platform where you have more content, I’d love to see more! God bless you.
Jesus is God, do not be led astray
Philippians 2:5-11. ~ Paul explains to the church that Jesus did not find it robbery to be equal with the Father, but chose to come down as a bondservant.
Also Luke 4:41 ~ Jesus was healing many from divers diseases and many demons came out of these people, even the demons were afraid of Jesus knowing He was the Son of God. All throughout scripture of the N.T Jesus has done many miracles, a man does not have the ability to do that unless He was Holy and had the authority of God Himself. No man is sinless but Jesus, How would a man be born sinless and remain sinless? Yet even legion which means many demons were casted from a man by Jesus power and yet they begged Jesus to put them in swine because they didn’t want to be destroyed for ETERNITY, if Jesus was just a man the demons would not be so fearful. Only God has the ability.
Also through scripture Jesus chose to forgive many who have sinned and also healed them. Luke 7:40-48 ~ Mark 2:7 (Pharisees knew that only God can forgive sin)
Revelation 21:3-8 (God says He is the alpha and the omega, the first and the last) -> Revelation 22:12-16 (Jesus says He is the alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last) ~ Why would Jesus claim that?
Isaiah 44:6 (God says He is the first and the last and beside Him is no God) -> Revelation 1:17-18 (Jesus makes that same statement, after He was resurrected, aren’t you going to believe the man who resurrected after being clinically dead 3 DAYS)
Isaiah 41:4 (not the only scriptures where God says He is the first and the last and yet Jesus said that’s who He is)
Revelation 2:8 (says He is the the first and the last again)
Isaiah 42:8 (He said He will not give His glory to any other) -> John 16:14-16 ( Jesus claims that God will glorify Him; DEFINITION of Glorify is To give glory, honor, or High praise to. He also said all things the father has are His and even said that the people would not see Him because He was going back to the Father)
Isaiah 43:10-13 (God said that before Him was there no other God formed and neither shall there be after Him which states God has just always been. He also said that beside Him is not savior, and before the day was, God was always there) -> John 3:16-17 (God sent His ONLY Begotten; DEFINITION of Begotten is naturally exists, so Jesus wasn’t just created by God so it’s His son, no Jesus already existed before He came to Heaven that’s another reason why it says Jesus was SENT so through HIM we would be SAVED, If God said there is no savior beside Him then what would that make Jesus… GOD) -> 2 Peter 3:18 (Peter says that Jesus is our LORD & SAVIOR and then says glory goes to Him both now and FOREVER) all over scripture it says Jesus is our lord and savior, that can’t be hidden we know this.
John 14:6 (Jesus says He is the way the truth and the life, no man cometh to the father but through Him, why would Jesus just call Him the father if He wasn’t apart of the GodHead? Wouldn’t He just call Him God?
Yet again He does say that neither does He or the angels know when the time of the end shall come but the Father, but He also was limited to a human beings body and yet wasn’t fully God, He came to not receive praise from men but to give praise all to the father because yet again Jesus was half man.
John 14-19
1 Timothy 16-17
Also read John 4 (Talks about the woman at the well)
“I AM” statements of John.
•In John 6:35, Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life.”
•In John 8:12, Jesus said, “I am the light of the world.”
•In John 10:9, Jesus said, “I am the gate.”
•In John 10:11, Jesus said, “I am the good shepherd.”
•At the tomb of Lazarus in John 11:25, He declared to Martha, “I am the resurrection and the life.”
•In John 14:6, He said, “I am the way and the truth and the life.”
•Finally, in John 15:5, Jesus said, “I am the vine.”
Revelation 22:13-14 (KJV) 13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Isaiah 44:6 (KJV) 6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel,
and his redeemer the LORD of hosts;
I am the first, and I am the last;
and beside me there is no God.
You can’t have two First and Last.
You fail to realize that the verses you mention is the Man Christ speaking which is different than the God in Christ speaking.
You break all rules of hermeneutics.
One God
The Greek word Kai is translated as and, it is also Even or that is. The word And does not mean another person. Matt 28:19 says NAME singular which is Jesus. All you have to do is read through acts and notice when they mentioned baptism. Jesus is considered the Lamb of God, the King of Kings, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the High Priest. And you believe that, but you don’t believe that One God can be all of that and more.
Isaiah 44:6-8 KJVS
[6] Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. [7] And who, as I, shall call, and shall declare it, and set it in order for me, since I appointed the ancient people? and the things that are coming, and shall come, let them shew unto them. [8] Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it ? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.
Revelation 1:7-8 KJVS
[7] Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. [8] I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
There can’t be two first and last.
Isaiah 9:6 KJVS
[6] For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Why is Jesus called / Identified as the Mighty God, and the everlasting Father?
1 Timothy 3:16 KJVS
[16] And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
God put on flesh, and became as a man.
Colossians 2:8-9 KJVS
[8] Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. [9] For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Jude 1:25 KJVS
[25] To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.
All that God is resides in the Body of Jesus.
Acts 20:28 (NKJV) 28 Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood.
God is Spirit. How does a Spirit have blood? There is no remission of sin without the shedding of blood.
So God produced a human body to be sacrificed for the payment of sin for all.
Well over 300 times the singular pronoun is used when speaking of God. The Greek Τριάδα is translated trinity. Not once is it used by the Apostles, nor of the OT writers. The OT is clear that ONE God was taught, then after the Apostles died He changed His mind?
Mark 12:29 KJVS
And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
Zechariah 12:10 (KJV) 10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem,
the spirit of grace and of supplications:
and they shall look upon ME whom they have pierced,
and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son,
and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
Who was pierced?
Zechariah 14:9 (NKJV) 9 And the LORD shall be King over all the earth.
In that day it shall be-
“The LORD is one,” And His name one.
John 20:26-28 (KJV) 26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you. 27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. 28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
th-cam.com/video/TDdydYK_Myo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=k3-9WWcYGCubdqMq
In the Old testament in Daniel chapter 7 it says that the Messiah is going to be worshiped with God the Father. What is your explanation of this?
Thanks for your question. Human beings are worshiped all of the time in scripture and it does not make them God. See this video, I directly address this - th-cam.com/video/D1nvLK0XHLQ/w-d-xo.html
Jesus is God, do not be led astray
Philippians 2:5-11. ~ Paul explains to the church that Jesus did not find it robbery to be equal with the Father, but chose to come down as a bondservant.
Also Luke 4:41 ~ Jesus was healing many from divers diseases and many demons came out of these people, even the demons were afraid of Jesus knowing He was the Son of God. All throughout scripture of the N.T Jesus has done many miracles, a man does not have the ability to do that unless He was Holy and had the authority of God Himself. No man is sinless but Jesus, How would a man be born sinless and remain sinless? Yet even legion which means many demons were casted from a man by Jesus power and yet they begged Jesus to put them in swine because they didn’t want to be destroyed for ETERNITY, if Jesus was just a man the demons would not be so fearful. Only God has the ability.
Also through scripture Jesus chose to forgive many who have sinned and also healed them. Luke 7:40-48 ~ Mark 2:7 (Pharisees knew that only God can forgive sin)
Revelation 21:3-8 (God says He is the alpha and the omega, the first and the last) -> Revelation 22:12-16 (Jesus says He is the alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last) ~ Why would Jesus claim that?
Isaiah 44:6 (God says He is the first and the last and beside Him is no God) -> Revelation 1:17-18 (Jesus makes that same statement, after He was resurrected, aren’t you going to believe the man who resurrected after being clinically dead 3 DAYS)
Isaiah 41:4 (not the only scriptures where God says He is the first and the last and yet Jesus said that’s who He is)
Revelation 2:8 (says He is the the first and the last again)
Isaiah 42:8 (He said He will not give His glory to any other) -> John 16:14-16 ( Jesus claims that God will glorify Him; DEFINITION of Glorify is To give glory, honor, or High praise to. He also said all things the father has are His and even said that the people would not see Him because He was going back to the Father)
Isaiah 43:10-13 (God said that before Him was there no other God formed and neither shall there be after Him which states God has just always been. He also said that beside Him is not savior, and before the day was, God was always there) -> John 3:16-17 (God sent His ONLY Begotten; DEFINITION of Begotten is naturally exists, so Jesus wasn’t just created by God so it’s His son, no Jesus already existed before He came to Heaven that’s another reason why it says Jesus was SENT so through HIM we would be SAVED, If God said there is no savior beside Him then what would that make Jesus… GOD) -> 2 Peter 3:18 (Peter says that Jesus is our LORD & SAVIOR and then says glory goes to Him both now and FOREVER) all over scripture it says Jesus is our lord and savior, that can’t be hidden we know this.
John 14:6 (Jesus says He is the way the truth and the life, no man cometh to the father but through Him, why would Jesus just call Him the father if He wasn’t apart of the GodHead? Wouldn’t He just call Him God?
Yet again He does say that neither does He or the angels know when the time of the end shall come but the Father, but He also was limited to a human beings body and yet wasn’t fully God, He came to not receive praise from men but to give praise all to the father because yet again Jesus was half man.
John 14-19
1 Timothy 16-17
Also read John 4 (Talks about the woman at the well)
Very knowledgeable teaching
heresy*
@@tomtemple69 85 Is it heresy to believe in one al-mighty God? Where in the scripture is that written?
@@luis7961 its heresy to deny Jesus is God incarnate... in fact it's blasphemy, whoever denies the Son denies the Father
@@tomtemple69 I dont think there is one Christian on this planet that denies the Father and the Son. Well, it might be the Trinitarians though. For them are Jesus a real son? And by the way, where in the scriptures can I read that it is heresy to deny Jesus as God?
@@luis7961 John 14: 9 Jesus *said to him, “Have I been so long with you, and yet you have not come to know Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?
John 10: 30 I and the Father are one.”
31 The Jews picked up stones again to stone Him. 32 Jesus answered them, “I showed you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you stoning Me?” 33 The Jews answered Him, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy; and because You, being a man, make Yourself out to be God.”
they were trying to stone Him because He claimed to BE God
Except when He said 'before Abraham was I AM' and then they tried to stone Him because they knew full well what He was saying.
If you are implying or claiming Jesus was claiming to be God you are wrong. Nobody at the trial of Jesus said "We heard him claim to be God". Being consistent with translating Jesus said "Before Abraham was, I am he". Revelation 13:8 says Jesus is the lamb slain from the foundation of the world. Yet this didn't happen until many years later. Yes, Jesus was planned to come before Abraham existed.
@@shanederry2691 Non sense . Jesus is God, if you don’t believe it you are not a Christian.
@@Lexinton55 No, he's not. And you sure as hell ain't my judge or anybody else's. You're an idolater and deceiver. Don't ever judge me again.
@@Lexinton55on the contrary you are less close to being a Christian for believing it. The Trinity is the Mark of The Beast. It's a man's number 666. It represents the unholy transgression created by man to dishonour God and the sacrifice of his Son. You divide God with this false belief and disrespect the love of him and his son. The irony is this dividing and disrespect is put forward as the opposite, as unity and honour.
@@Lexinton55 Yes, Jesus is God in the sense he himself explained it in John 10:31-38. There he explained that if he is called the Son of God or even God because he was sanctified and sent to earth by the Father, that doesn't mean he was claiming equality with the Father and therefore he was not blaspheming.
This is an excellent presentation. It could not be explained any better. Thank you!
Unitarians that deny Jesus is God don't read or rightly divided the book. I've shown many Unitarians scriptures that shows Jesus is the YHWH, the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY. ZECH 12:10, REV. 1:8,11,12-13,17-18, REV.4:8, REV21:6-7,22, REV4:2 ,22:1,3-413,16.
JN 14th chapter also shows Jesus is the only way you see the Father , because the Father is dwelling in the Christ. 1 Tim 3:16 God was manifest in the flesh. God was in Christ and that body is God's body and that Spirit was the LORD of the OT and now forever in Jesus. Jesus has dual nature's of Deity and humanity. Trinitarians and Unitarians are both wrong and this man here is only looking at the God with the Christ, the anointed man the Son of God .
Who is or what is God in John 1:1
Jesus the man would not grasp after divine prerogatives. John 10:30 I am my Father are one.
John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, my Lord and my God.
Thomas is not just merely speaking some out of control speech to Jesus, like he is excited, he is directly calling him these, the Greek has O Kurios mou ho Theos or the Lord of Me, the God of me. Jesus was in his humanity the Christ the Son of God, but he always was that Word of God, being the idea and thought and then living expression of God in time. Jesus never gave up being the Father, he was so, but he was that Son. Isa 9:6. I find the shallow Unitarian denial of Jesus as God offensive, I find the Trinitarian denial he is fully God reprehensible and vile that they used force against Monarchians as myself in the past and yes the Unitarians, and Arians who have their problems.
How about when Jesus said this
John 17:3
Jesus said “That they may know YOU the ONLY ONE TRUE GOD”
@@ajaxzaya0991 , the fact that
Unitarians see two separate beings God and a Son of God, and not Jesus as the God as Spirit. When Jesus spoke in Jn 17:3 he was speaking as the man Christ the Son, but Jesus wasn't limited to that nature alone, he had the God nature as Spirit and is spoken of as not only Sin, but also God and Father in ISA. 9:6, he stated when you see him or know him, you know the Father as well. Now there is only one God and Thomas said of Jesus , in John 20:28 "My Lord and my God "
In the Greek that is O Kurios mou, ho Theos mou. ...The Lord of Me, the God of me.
The Greek brings out that it wasn't a exclamation statement, but one stating Thomas counted him as Lord and God.
Jesus is the Deity, indwelling the body he prepared, his tabernacle.
Rev.22:1,3-4 shows that the God and the Lamb is the one seen and it speaks in singular personal pronoun of him as his servants, his face, his name and him.
It is not 2, but God and the Lamb, the Spirit Lord God and his body, the man, the Lamb in which God dwells.
Jesus said he got his name by inheritance, that he was come in his Father's name.
The name Jesus is the name of God and the Son of God. The only true God is the Father, but that the sin of God would have his name called Mighty God and everlasting Father in ISA.9:6 is clear.
Jesus is that Deity the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY IN REV.4;8, when you compare several scriptures in Rev.1:8,11,17-18, 2 :8,
20:13-16, 21:5-6, 22:13-16.
Jesus is God, the Son of God and the Holy Spirit the comforter who was the Spirit of Christ as the Spirit of the Lord.
@@bobjames3748 1 Timothy 2:5-6
“For there is only ONE GOD, The Father” not the Son or the Holy Spirit🤦
@@ajaxzaya0991 I've noticed the total blindness amongst Unitarians and Arians. You never comment on the verses that destroy your position, you act like a ostrich and hide your head.
John 20:28, The many verses compared in Revelation that Shows Jesus is the God, not as many, but as Deity/God. The Lamb is where that God dwells for all eternity headquartered or in his fullness, but Jesus is not just the Son of God.,but that Son is called MIGHTY GOD & EVERLASTING FATHER AS TO HIS SPIRIT DEITY.ISA.9:6 Tell me how is it that Emmanuel/Immanuel God with us, is speaking of Jesus?
Who is the First and the Last? Isa 44:6-8, compare to Rev.1:,8,11,17-18, 22:13
Rev. 22:13
Rotherham's emphasized Bible Rev.1:8
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l the Z l, saith the Lord - | the God who Is Coming |, ||The Almighty||.
Jesus speaking in a enigmatic speech as the Son of God, let it be known that when you see a d know him, you have seen and known the Father also ,John 14th Chap.
There is others but if you don't read, research, see there is one God and it will be Jesus seen and heard in heaven as such.
@@bobjames3748 Lmao🤣
Do you know on Judgement day Jesus Christ will return here as a Man, not as a God?😁
Although your explanation of John 5 is spot on, Trinitarians will just differentiate between the person of the Father and the person of the Son. They will simply claim this is Jesus in his human nature or in his role as the Son
Again, in John 10, your reasoning is excellent and the context is taken into account rather than being ignored. Interestingly, some NTs translate John 10 :33 as "a god" . In view of how Jesus responds by quoting Psalm 82 :6, this would seem to be the case. Translating the verse 'God' is yet another sign of translator bias.
In John 20 :28, again, simply by looking at the context, we get the correct understanding. If ever there was a time to spell out that Jesus was God; or God incarnate; God in the flesh, this was it. But verses 30-31 do the oppsite : They show the purpose of the gospel was to show that Jesus ws the messiah, the Son of God, - not God. Indeed, the Jews did not see the messiah as God, but as his anointed One.
However, even calling Jesus God - and there are only a handful of such verses contrasting with the hundreds differentiating Jesus from God - does not strictly in itself mean that Jesus is YHWH, as the word 'God' has a range of meanings and various ones such as Moses,Hebrew Kings; Judges and angels are designated God in scripture without ever implying that they are YHWH.
@JordanJackson41 : Not exactly sure what you mean. The word 'God' is a title, not a name.
@JordanJackson41 : I'm afraid you are simply wrong. The title 'God/god' is applied to Moses. Hebrew Kings, Judges, angels - even the devil in the Bible.
The divine name YHWH traditionally rendered Jehovah/Yahweh is God's name (Ex 3 :15) and features over 6000 times in the Bible(although many modern translations replace it with the word LORD).
YHWH is the God of Israel, the God of Jesus the one to whom he addressed the famous words : "hallowed be thy name."(Mat6 :9,10)
If you have watched the video or read my comment, you will understand that Jesus did not claim to be God Almighty and is never called such. Indeed, although Jesus is called 'Lord' 0 as are many others -, he is never called 'LORD' or 'LORD God'.
@JordanJackson41 : If you bother to read the context, you will see that these words are addressed to a Hebrew King. Christians view the words as a messianic prophecy.
Jesus is never called Almighty God.
@JordanJackson41 : What you have just said proves he is not Almighty. You said : "All authority and power was GIVEN to him." Who GAVE him authority and power? The fact that he was GIVEN these indicates that he did not always possess them.
Likewise, in John 5 :26 we read that the Son was GIVEN life in himself and so did not always have it just as he is GIVEN authority in v 27.
In Acts2, Peter tells us in verse 36: "...that God hath MADE him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom ye crucified."
@JordanJackson41 : NO ! If he is given or is granted all authority then he did not always possess it.
Note also John 5 :26, where we see that the Son was given life in himself. Again, this shows that he did not always possess it.
Jesús said, “You believe in God believe ALSO in me.”
Yes. That is exactly what he said. What he did not say was "You believe in God, believe also that I am God too".
We should believe in God (The Father) and we should also believe in his Messiah, his son.
God (The Father) told us to do so, remember. (Luke 9:35)
So listen to the Father (The Al-mighty God) and listen to the Son (The Messiah)
@@luis7961 exactly
Jesus is God, do not be led astray
Philippians 2:5-11. ~ Paul explains to the church that Jesus did not find it robbery to be equal with the Father, but chose to come down as a bondservant.
Also Luke 4:41 ~ Jesus was healing many from divers diseases and many demons came out of these people, even the demons were afraid of Jesus knowing He was the Son of God. All throughout scripture of the N.T Jesus has done many miracles, a man does not have the ability to do that unless He was Holy and had the authority of God Himself. No man is sinless but Jesus, How would a man be born sinless and remain sinless? Yet even legion which means many demons were casted from a man by Jesus power and yet they begged Jesus to put them in swine because they didn’t want to be destroyed for ETERNITY, if Jesus was just a man the demons would not be so fearful. Only God has the ability.
Also through scripture Jesus chose to forgive many who have sinned and also healed them. Luke 7:40-48 ~ Mark 2:7 (Pharisees knew that only God can forgive sin)
Revelation 21:3-8 (God says He is the alpha and the omega, the first and the last) -> Revelation 22:12-16 (Jesus says He is the alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last) ~ Why would Jesus claim that?
Isaiah 44:6 (God says He is the first and the last and beside Him is no God) -> Revelation 1:17-18 (Jesus makes that same statement, after He was resurrected, aren’t you going to believe the man who resurrected after being clinically dead 3 DAYS)
Isaiah 41:4 (not the only scriptures where God says He is the first and the last and yet Jesus said that’s who He is)
Revelation 2:8 (says He is the the first and the last again)
Isaiah 42:8 (He said He will not give His glory to any other) -> John 16:14-16 ( Jesus claims that God will glorify Him; DEFINITION of Glorify is To give glory, honor, or High praise to. He also said all things the father has are His and even said that the people would not see Him because He was going back to the Father)
Isaiah 43:10-13 (God said that before Him was there no other God formed and neither shall there be after Him which states God has just always been. He also said that beside Him is not savior, and before the day was, God was always there) -> John 3:16-17 (God sent His ONLY Begotten; DEFINITION of Begotten is naturally exists, so Jesus wasn’t just created by God so it’s His son, no Jesus already existed before He came to Heaven that’s another reason why it says Jesus was SENT so through HIM we would be SAVED, If God said there is no savior beside Him then what would that make Jesus… GOD) -> 2 Peter 3:18 (Peter says that Jesus is our LORD & SAVIOR and then says glory goes to Him both now and FOREVER) all over scripture it says Jesus is our lord and savior, that can’t be hidden we know this.
John 14:6 (Jesus says He is the way the truth and the life, no man cometh to the father but through Him, why would Jesus just call Him the father if He wasn’t apart of the GodHead? Wouldn’t He just call Him God?
Yet again He does say that neither does He or the angels know when the time of the end shall come but the Father, but He also was limited to a human beings body and yet wasn’t fully God, He came to not receive praise from men but to give praise all to the father because yet again Jesus was half man.
John 14-19
1 Timothy 16-17
Also read John 4 (Talks about the woman at the well)
@@jadenbickford7204You can base your faith on a guy with two differing testimonies and lies, but not everyone else will follow suit.
Jesus is the Son of God.
We are the sons of God.
Therefore Jesus is our Brother, NOT OUR GOD...
Jesus saith unto her,
Touch me not;
for I am not yet
ascended to my Father:
but go to my brethren,
and say unto them,
I ascend unto my Father,
and your Father;
and to my God,
and your God.
John 20:17 (the forbidden verse).
Adam is a son of god with no mother or father which is more of a miracle than Jesus why do the trinitarians deny him when he was made directly by god
@@Engineer9921Yeah you're right, Jesus is a Creation of God no doubt
Colossians 1:15
The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all CREATION.
1 Corinthians 15:47
Adam, the first man, was made from the dust of the earth, while Christ, the second man, came from heaven.
@@ajaxzaya0991
(Isaiah 43:3)
For I am the Lord thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour: I gave Egypt for thy ransom, Ethiopia and Seba for thee.
(Isaiah 43:11)
I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no saviour.
The Lord our God says that he is the savior, and that there is no other savior but him; And at the same time Jesus is referred to as the savior by many authors, while Christ himself stated that he came to save that which was lost. Keep in mind that a believer knows that Christ is our Savior
If there is no other Savior besides the Lord our God, how can Christ also be the Savior of the world?
psalm 82 says ye are gods, referring to (probably) israelite authorities. So does that mean I am God
It’s so sad the confusion people have with this subject. I am constantly asked: Where does Jesus himself say: I am God?
To which, I ask…Where does Jesus himself say: I am not God?
The answer to BOTH questions is NOWHERE.
So we study scripture and context to figure this out. We know the Father is God. We also know Jesus is called God in many places. We know the Spirit is called God in Acts 5.
We also know in John 5:22 that the Father has given all authority to judge to Jesus. In Revelation 22:12, Jesus is speaking. He continues to speak in verse 13: “I am Alpha and Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
Jesus is God. Jesus isn’t the Father. He is the second in the godhead: completely equal in divinity.
The father gives authority to the Jesus, therefore not co-equal. The father has, inherently, things that the son doesn't.
@@christophercano4809 yes, because positionally, the Father IS greater, just like a BOSS is greater than an employee, in POSITION…not in BEING. The Boss and employee are EQUAL IN BEING: HUMAN.
The Father, Son, and Spirit are DIFFERENT in POSITION, NOT in BEING…
@@edensessentialsnaturalwell8564 Let's follow your analogy to its logical conclusion. What makes the boss "greater in position" than an employee? I think the answer is more power, so is the father more powerful than the son? Which is what it seems if you read the bible.
@@christophercano4809 it’s unfortunate that you can’t grasp it. And I can’t help that. The Bible is absolutely clear that the Father, Son, and Spirit are God. I’m not here to argue. I just share the facts. And the fact is Jesus is equal in divinity along with the Father and Spirit.
@@edensessentialsnaturalwell8564 Just admit that you used an extremely flawed analogy. Because if you follow the logical conclusion of your analogy, it concludes that the father has more power than the son. Maybe try using another analogy, but give it more thought next time. Although, to be honest, whenever a Christian tries to use analogies to explain the trinity, they always fall into a heresy, so you might as well not even try.
Jesus is "THE WAY" to the Father according to John 14:6.
Jesus is "...the only mediator between God and man..." 1 Timothy 2:5
That's another reason why Jesus can not be The Almighty God, the Father..!
The Bible calls Jesus "Mighty God" but it never calls him Almighty God..!
-Isaiah 9:6,7
God bless you brother..!
I was told that If I don’t believe Jesus is God but even if I still believe in Jesus and follow him as Lord and accept him as my Lord and savior that I have to believe Jesus is God to have everlasting life , I heard those who don’t believe Jesus is not God are not Christian’s and I was told that That’s exactly what the pharisses said “ if you are God then why are you on the cross dying” and it was because He was literally saving you, saving the people who didnt even believe in Him shutting up the devil and taking the keys to death and hell “ but I never seen the verse of the pharassies saying that and also 1 Timothy 3:16
“God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory”
I was told that I need to know him better and it honestly hurts me because I love Jesus dearly and follow him I don’t believe Jesus was just some prophet but I do believe God is Jesus Father but I don’t even know what to believe anymore I feel like no matter which one I pick they are fighting with each other on you’ve been deceived I’m just hurting sad and down I don’t know what to believe anymore please someone help me
Many Trinitarian leaders will use threats or will say that you are going to "hell" if you do not believe that Jesus is God. However, there is no verse anywhere that teaches such a thing. And there is no interaction with the Pharisees saying "If you are God then why are you dying on the cross." The best way to approach this whole situation is to check what people claim with the scriptures. If it is not in the scriptures, you do not need to worry about baseless claims and scare tactics. The God we follow is not looking to condemn people to death for misunderstanding
Him slightly. The thief on the cross knew very little about Jesus, yet, he was saved. So, I would encourage you to seek the truth on this matter with an open mind and don't be afraid of people making claims that aren't scriptural.
Dude, Read Chapter 1 of John's Gospel...
Why? The rest of the Bible has to be interpreted to harmonize with the plain unambiguous texts, not the other way around.
The Bible doesn't work the way you want it to. You can't hear all this truth being stated and then rush out to find a few texts that YOU think stand in opposition to the plain unambiguous truth!!
So what about John 1? It says nothing about Jesus being God.
The word of God never became a flesh man either. Verse 14 is an obvious mistranslation of the Greek that was inspired by Gnostics and mystics in the early Church.
The word CAME TO HUMANITY and DWELT IN US......etc.. That is the correct translation.
If the word is not dwelling in you, then you are one one of YHWH's people. That is a FACT.
Why? Because the word of YAHWEH is spirit, just as YHWH is spirit.
John 1:1
a. In the beginning was ho logos,
b. and ho logos was integral to ton theon [YHWH],
c. and divine [theos] was ho logos.
Alt: "and the word (ho logos) was divine (theos)."
James Moffatt, former professor of Greek and New Testament Exegesis at Mansfield College in Oxford, England, and author of the well-known Moffatt Bible, agrees. He translated John 1:1c as,
“the logos was divine.”
In 1:1b, Ton Theon with the definite article is properly translated to English as "the God" with an uppercase "G" to signify it is referring to YHWH the only true God. Translators remove the definite article and use uppercase "G" to make God a proper noun referring to YHWH, the only true God (John 17:3).
In 1:1c, Theos without the definite article is normally translated as god with a lowercase "g" and is sometimes translated as "divine."
The divine translation more accurately applies here since there is no other deity mentioned.
In John 1:1 all three instances of "ho logos" do not refer to another person or lessor god. The word is YHWH's word, and more specifically the writer is referring to none other than the GOSPEL which was in YHWH's forethought from eternity.
The use of theos without the definite article, sandwiched between "ton theon" and "ho logos," indicates "theos" is being used as a predicate adjective to describe the spirit nature and qualities of YHWH and His word as being the same spirit, life, light, eternal, holy, and divine Logos. Both YHWH and His Logos are DIVINE.
"Ho Logos" is an attribute and possession of YHWH, not a person, not a lessor god, and not Jesus.
There is no Biblical basis for concluding that the second use of theos (without the definite article) is referring to a second person whose name is the word. The Author does not write: In the beginning was Jesus.
No other deity besides YHWH is mentioned in John 's Gospel. Jesus never refers to himself as "ho logos" and neither do the Apostles.
Quote:
"The second use of theos in John 1:1c serves as a predicate adjective rather than as a predicate noun." [citation: Maximillian Zerwick, Biblical Greek, Rome: Scripta Ponificii Instituti Biblici, 1963, p. 55, par. 171; p. 57, par. 176.
Regarding John 1:1b "pros ton theon"
It is incorrect to insist that "pros" points to another person (Jesus) as having an eternal preexistent relationship with YHWH. What John is telling us is exactly what the Bible teaches: the Gospel is of the same eternal and divine spirit nature as what YHWH is. There is an eternal relationship between YHWH and His word without the word being the person of Jesus.
According to Bauer’s Greek-English Lexicon the preposition pros with the accusative, as in John 1:1, 2, is a marker of movement or orientation toward someone or something. The context determines if it is a person or a something.
Pros can mean a number of things such as, according to Bauer's: toward, towards, to, near, at, during, aiming at, striving toward, against, for, to indicate a connection by marking a point of reference, with reference to/regard to (about, because of, with respect to, which concerns, which belongs to, what makes for, in accordance with, in order to, for the purpose of),in adverbial expressions (“tends toward” Jas. 5:4) by, at, near.
Thayer’s Greek-English Lexicon adds the definition “pertaining to.” Also, various translations render pros with the accusative as: Concerning, as respects, pertaining to, of, even to.
Furthermore, the Greek word generally rendered as ‘with’ is para and not pros.
The assumption that "pros" means there is another person "with" God in John 1:1 can only be due to TRADITION. The mystics, Gnostics, and Philosophers like Philo infected the early church with a lessor god and /or logos theory that conflicts with the Bible.
People who insist on this interpretation overlook the Biblical evidence that "pros" can also be translated as "with" when referring to a something, rather than a someone. (Examples below).
NOTE:
The LXX renders pros ton theon as “to God.”
Eighteen other occurrences of pros ton theon in the New Testament Scriptures are translated as: “to God,” “toward God,” “related to God” or “pertaining to God.” For example, many translations render the phrase pros ton theon in Hebrews 5:2 as: “pertaining to God...” (NASB); “in relation to God...” (ESV); “related to God...” (NIV). Similarly, in Hebrews 2:17 and Romans 15:17.
The same or similar phrases are used in a number of other texts. Bauer’s choice of phrase for Romans 15:17 is “that which concerns God” in its rendering of "ta pros ton theon."
Regardless, there is Biblical evidence that "pros" can be translated as "with" when referring to a something integral to God such as his spirit, nature, attributes, word, wisdom, power, love, etc.. However, in my opinion: "integral to God" is more accurate. Truly God's word is an integral part of who God is (the self revealing one).
Job 10:12-16 informs us that God’s attributes such as life, love, wisdom, power are with Him.
Isa 40.10; 62.11 states “His reward is with Him.”
2 Kings 3:12 states “The word of the Lord is with him.”
In John 1:1c the Greek phrase "pros ton theon" refers to things and not a person. Other examples make this point clear. We have:
“things with God” (Heb 2:17; 5:1; Rom 17:15)
“conscience with God” (Acts 24:16)
“confidence with God” (2 Cor 3:4; 1 John 3:21)
“peace with God” (Rom 5:1)
“Faith with God.” (1 Thessalonians 1:8)
Jesus cannot be read into the text of John 1:1 as being YHWH or the word because YHWH and His word are not begotten or born. Jesus was begotten and born.
John 6:63 states God's word is spirit, meaning: of the same divine eternal substance.
God is a spirit. (John 4:24)
God's word is spirit. (John 6:63)
God's word does not become flesh. (John 3:6)
God's word is placed INTO Jesus. Deuteronomy 18:18.
Jesus, the Son of God, is not the "word" (logos) of John 1:1. Rather, Jesus spoke his Father's logos....the very words he said belonged to his FATHER. (John 7:15-17; John 12:49-50; John 14:10; John 14:24).
The belief that the word of God became the flesh of Jesus conflicts with the Bible which teaches us that the word of God came THROUGH Jesus to humanity to dwell in our hearts and minds and transform us. The Logos of God was placed into Jesus by God. Deuteronomy 18:18; Acts 3:22
Yes! It's so clear! I don't understand why Trinitarians can't see it! The John 1:1 Dilemma actually proves the Trinity false all by itself. Trinitarians read John 1:1 in one of two possible ways:
1) In the beginning was Jesus, and Jesus was WITH the Father, and Jesus WAS the Father.
2) In the beginning was Jesus, and Jesus was WITH God, and Jesus WAS God.
If a Trinitarian picks 1, they must state that Jesus IS the Father, which is heresy to a Trinitarian. If a Trinitarian picks 2, they must state that Jesus was apart from God, WITH God, but not God himself. Option 2 carries the further issue of forcing there to be two Gods, one that Jesus is WITH and one that Jesus IS. Obviously option 2 is heresy to a Trinitarian as well.
So that leaves you with zero possible options as a Trinitarian, and this is why John 1:1 precludes Trinitarianism.
@@lizzard13666They can’t see it because their minds are blinded by the god of the system of things. Don’t tell the Trinitarians that Satan is called a god too! They might crap themselves. 😂
“If, in fact, the good news we declare is veiled, it is veiled among those who are perishing, among whom the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, so that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through.” - 2 Corinthians 4:3, 4
Satan, as god of this system of things, obscures the truth about YHWH and Jesus so that they cannot attain to truth and life as John 17:3 says. But we hope and pray that all may come to know both of them in accurate knowledge and escape the crafty acts of the Devil.
@@lizzard13666 Absolutely wrong! The Word in John 1 is NOT Jesus. Jesus is the incarnation of the Word as a human being Jesus, in Palestine. 6000 years ago. The Word was with God and was God in eternity past and became flesh to dwell among us. He wasn't Jesus in eternity past, He was the Word and the Word became flesh, Jesus.
@@r1chardG1 Are you one of these bots I've been hearing about? Or are you a real account?
Don't deny the truth!!!
The truth will make you free!!!
Jesus is GOD forever!!!
Who gave Moses the Ten Commandments?
GOD.
Jesus says in John 14:15
If ye love me keep my commandments.
1 PETER 1:3 - 2 COR 11:31 - ROMANS 15:6 - JOHN 20:17 - EPHESIANS 1:3 - REV 3:12
interesting i didnt realize that all commands are actually the 10 commands
@@xxxViceroyxxx Good one :)
You are totally wrong and out of the way. Christ is Yahweh, he is God himself incarnate.
Based on nothing, but your mistaken opinion.
The Father and I are ONE, Jesus said.
How do I find a church that is Unitarian?
The Unitarian Christian Alliance website has a list of churches here, check to see if there is one in your area: www.unitarianchristianalliance.org/group-directory/
John Chapter 14 ... Read this Chapter... Stop confusing people
What about it? The chapter starts “Do not let your heart be troubled; believe in God, believe also in Me."
John 14:1 NASB2020
There in the first verse Jesus has already identified himself as someone other than God.
@@RufusBlad Read The whole Chapter
@@RufusBlad John Chapter 1 Verses 1-5 NLT BIBLE
@@DamianS1893 To sum it up: Jesus is a separate being from God (verse 1), through whom we have access to God (verse 6) and who reveals God to us (verse 7). Jesus is in God and God is in Jesus, and everything Jesus says is God's words and God is working through him (verse 10). Jesus will come to us by the Spirit of Truth, i.e. God's Spirit (verse 16-18) and God is greater than Jesus (verse 28).
@@RufusBladwhat??
I'm baffled by how much false teaching is out there. Jesus is fully God. First chapter of John alone sets this up.
True
I agree that Jesus Christ is God
i was with my dad and i am my dad
Open your eyes... It's clear, God is the Father.
One God
The same first chapter in v 14 John confirms Christ as being the Son of God, which is what Jesus continually declared himself as and acknowledged to his disciples ie Mark 8:29
If Jesus says that no one is good except for God, and if it's true that Jesus is not God, then you have to conclude that either Jesus is not good, making Him sinful, or Jesus is good despite being not being God, making Him wrong.
That's a good thought. However, when Jesus said, "No one is good but God alone," (Mark 10:18) I don't think that means that all other beings are sinners. But that there is a sense in which the "goodness" of God exceeds all other beings. We know this because in that framework, you would then have to say that all angels are sinners, because only God is "good." Thus, I don't think we should understand "good" to mean sinless, and therefore, all other beings in the universe are sinners.
@biblicalunitarian So then in what ways does the goodness of the Father exceed the goodness of the Son?
That's a great question that the text doesn't directly answer, however, I think from scripture, some things that would make the Father greater than the Son, is that the Father created the Son (Matt. 1:18), and all things (Gen. 1:1), the Father did miracles through the Son (Acts 2:22), the Father gave the Son authority (Matt. 28:18), and Jesus had to grow in wisdom (Luke 2:52), yet, the Father doesn't grow in wisdom, he has all wisdom (Psa. 147:5). So, I think in these ways, and others, the goodness of the Father exceeds the goodness of the Son.
@@biblicalunitarian I'm glad you brought those things up. There were multiple points in the video that I thought would be explained with properly understanding Jesus's existence as a human. Philippians 2:6-7 explains it like this, "...Who, though He (Jesus) was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied Himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men." Here we see Paul describing Jesus's becoming human as an intentional and willing choice, not merely a creation by the Father as you seem to suggest. Furthermore, it is this emptying Himself and setting aside the form of God and taking on the form of a servant that resulted in many of your objections as to why He had to be given things from the Father, such as life, wisdom, and authority. Servants don't have those in themselves, and Jesus was here as a servant, not His rightful form like that of the Father, which is God.
God said (paraphrasing) in Genesis 1:26, "Let us make man in our image and likeness." What did God make? TWO people, male and female, or husband and wife. Therefore by God's own mouth, God is TWO. Father and Son. Not just one, not three, but clearly TWO. God put His fingerprint on so much of His creation declaring that TWO shall be ONE, just like God. Most people debate whether God is one or three, when the most obvious is actually what God said He created to look like Him. TWO = Father and Son. And the life and presence of God is simply His Spirit. Proverbs 30:3-4 clearly refers to God as "The Holy One" and asks what is His Name and what is His Son's name, if you know?
Jesus said “That they may know YOU the ONLY ONE TRUE GOD”.
It doesn't say the only "one" true God. Even if it did, it doesn't exclude Jesus, like Jude 1:4 doesn't exclude the Father from being Lord.
We also have, "And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments." (Matt. 19:16, 17) There are many other very direct references to Jesus denying that he is God. The references that seem ambivalent have a clear alternate explanation, overwhelming evidence that the idea of Jesus being God has only the most tenuous and oblique interpretations.
Jesus is God in Life and nature, but not in the person of the Father. He is the person of God the Son, have the Life and nature of the Father, but not the personhood.
Show us your Greek interpretation/translation of Acts 20:28 and 1 Tim. 3:16. God's own blood was shed on the Cross and God was manifest in the flesh. Strong's fully concurs.
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK! I thought I know everything about this issue, but you keep surprising me...
Your whole point is that Jesus denies what others say about him, so why at 6:48 would you use Mark 14:61-62 where Jesus clearly agrees with the high priest of being the Messiah and Son of God? Then goes on to affirm the divine title of Son of Man (of Daniel 7:13-14), and sitting at the right hand of the Father. This is the essence of equality friend.
The point of using Mark 14:61-62 was to show an example when Jesus clearly affirms a claim someone makes about him, and how that response is not at all like the response he gives in John 5 and John 10. Thus, he is not affirming the claim people are making about him. If someone said "You are claiming equality with God!" and you say, "I am the Son of God." Do you think that is affirming their claim? Put another way, let's say, someone says, "You are Bill!" and you say, "I am Bill's son." Do you think that is affirming the claim? Also, to your other comment, "Son of man" is not a divine title, meaning that he is God himself. The son of man approaches the ancient of days and receives an everlasting kingdom from him, thus, he is NOT him. I hear that often from Trinitarians, that it is a divine title, but how does receiving a kingdom make you become divine? David received a Kingdom, and Solomon.... yet, they are not divine. Obviously Jesus' kingdom is greater and eternal, yet, you seem to be making a huge leap from, 'receiving a eternal kingdom' to 'therefore, the son of man is a divine figure,' which is nowhere found in the text itself. Thanks for your comment.
I see. Well, with respect, your example works against you because the question is about equality in nature. Jesus, the Son of God (The Father) shares his father's nature. This is what makes him unique to all other sons of God mentioned in Scripture. I'm not Bill, but I am of Bills very nature as his son. That is why he is depicted sitting at the right hand of the Father because he inherits all things as a first born would. Furthermore, to be The Messiah is to be from everlasting (Micah 5:2; Habakkuk 1:12), or never created.
The Son of Man in Daniel 7, is coming in the clouds which is only ever speaking of deity and all will serve him. The word serve here is always given to God alone except here. David and Solomon would never allow othere to serve them in this manner.
So Jesus can say he and his Father are one because the nature they share. The Father being greater just shows his role as the source, and what distinguishes him from the Son and Spirit. Their will, is perfectly unified in eternal love. There is no lack in any of the persons.
Last observation from the Mark passage in connection with John is the I am statement. Calling himself the "I am" in John 8:58 is a much higher claim of divinity then calling ones self God (usually synonymous with the Father) because it means Jesus always was and will be. Peace
@@jaredg5663 Thanks for the response. To your first point that Jesus shares his Father's nature, that is never taught in scripture. Jesus does things because God empowers him, not because he has the power inherent in himself (John 14:10). The fact that Jesus is God's son and was born by the Holy Spirit and Mary, could have a lot of implications. It could mean that Jesus is 100% God, it could mean he is 100% man, it could mean he is a mixture, or it could mean that he is 100% God and 100% man (a contradiction in my eyes, but what Trinitarians hold to). Scripture never defines Jesus' nature as a God-man, but it does define him as a man (Acts 2:22-23; 1 Tim. 2:5). Thus, we have great reason to believe he is a man. As you mentioned, we are sons of God and so are angels, but we are not divine, so, being a son of God does not inherently carry the meaning of being divine. Also, since, there is no explicit teaching in scripture that Jesus' nature is God's nature, and there are many differences in scripture between Jesus and God (Jesus was tempted, was not omnipresent, not omniscient, died, etc.), I'm not sure why we would conclude that his nature is the same.
Understanding the Messiah to be everlasting from Micah 5:2 I think is a misunderstanding of the Hebrew and poorly translated, please see our article on that - www.biblicalunitarian.com/verses/micah-5-2. And Habakkuk 1:12 is speaking about God, not Jesus.
Great point about Daniel 7, it actually caused me to go look up the Greek and Hebrew, it is the only place "latreuo" (to serve) is used of Jesus (which I previously thought there were none). However, "latreuo" is used of other things besides deities (Heb. 8:5; Sirach 4:14) thus, it does not turn Jesus into a divine figure.
You said, "So Jesus can say he and his Father are one because the nature they share." This is possible, but not something John 10 says.
You said, "Calling himself the "I am" in John 8:58 is a much higher claim of divinity then calling ones self God (usually synonymous with the Father) because it means Jesus always was and will be", the blind beggar also said "I am" in John 9:9, so that phrase isn't a claim to divinity, in and of itself.
@biblicalunitarian So I understand you don't agree, but to be God the Fathers only begotten or unique Son would logically mean he shared in his very nature, unless the Father changed and wasn't always a Father. No one else is ever called the Son of God with the article. We can only be sons by adoption.
Furthermore, I do and must confess Jesus is man (1 John 4:2-3). This means I affirm all the non divine things he does as you pointed out (growing, learning, dying). But he has two natures, and we must affirm he is God's very Son as well (1 John 4:15). He is Emmanuel- God with us. No text ever says Jesus is "only" man btw.
Just an observation in 1 Timothy 2:5, being a mediator is a task, and so he can actually do his job because he is fully divine and fully man. He is able to see both sides in a real sense.
I won't get into the Messiah texts you don't agree with, but my point is that the Messiah in the OT is called God and LORD, plus given divine attributes ( Isaiah 9:6; Jeremiah 23:6; Psalm 45:6-Repeated in Hebrews 1:8-9).
On Daniel 7, I believe you are missing the point. If all nations serve this figure that comes in the clouds, that would be idolatry. Serving here is as in worship. This is why the high priest is furious because he claimed to be Equal with the Father. It's like Jesus is saying, "I can go pass through the vale into the Holy of Holies and sit on the ark of the covenant, right on the mercy seat".
To your last objection about John 8:58. This is the covenant name of God, given to Moses at the burning bush. The example you used in John 9:9 uses the same construction (that I am aware of), but the context can't be him claiming to exist before Abraham as Jesus did.
If you want to respond again, cool, but I probably won't, but just curious and last question. As a Unitarian, how could Jesus ultimately save if he doesn't have a divine nature? Peace
2 Corinthians 5:19
King James Version
19 To wit, that God was IN Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
John 17:3
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3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
1 Timothy 2:5
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5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
So what is the difference between a Human Father and his Son? If all things were made by Him(Jesus) and without Him, nothing was made that was created. Then if He was created the top statement is false. Very simple logic. We have a Being That was not created that was with the Father from the beginning. And then there is Heb 1:10.
Jesus sits at the right hand of the Father .. you can't sit next to someone and at the same time BE that person! Trinitarians remind me of that saying "It's easier to fool someone than to convince them that they've been fooled"! And secondly half the reason for the "confusion" is the removal of God's name from the scriptures!!
Jesus says at the end of John 5 that Moses speaks of him. So please show me where does Moses ever speak of the son of God? Or does Moses only speak of God?
Wrong
John 5:20 says, "And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life".
The "True God" is referring to God the Father, the true one, who has a son Jesus Christ.
@@biblicalunitarian great is the mystery of godliness; God was manifest in the flesh. Clear as day
@@julianmanjarres1998 That translation has poor manuscript evidence, the better and earlier manuscripts read, "He was manifested in the flesh." Many Trinitarian translations don't use "God was manifested in the flesh" (NIV, NLT, ESV, NASB, CSB, NET).
Do you believe when Jesus says that "they may know you the Only True God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent," in John 17:3, that is clear as day that Jesus doesn't consider himself part of the ONLY true God? There are no manuscript troubles for John 17:3.
God is 1.
Jesus is a mediator between God & Man.
At the same time, Jesus is man.
Yeah Jesus is a Man, not a God
1 Corinthians 15:47
Adam, the first man, was made from the dust of the earth, while Christ, the second man, came from heaven.
The first step is to realise the trinity is false.
The second step is to realise Jesus(Peace be upon him) is not divine but was a man sent by the one true God.
The third step is to ask God sincerely to guide your heart to the truth and what is most pleasing to him.
“Say “He is Allah , [who is] one,
Allah the Eternal Refuge,
He neither begets nor is born,
Nor is there to him any equivalent.” {Quran 112}
I invite all the sincere truth seekers to study Islam from authentic sources.
Peace❤
Jesus is Lord
"And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is GIVEN unto me in heaven and in earth."-Matthew 28:18.
Yep he was given all power, he didn't inherently have all power, thus, he isn't God, because God inherently has all power.
@@biblicalunitarian He emptied Himself as being fully man and fully God but that did not mean Jesus lost His divinity. He was God in human form. The disciples didn't understand this entirely either until Jesus rose from the dead then ascended to Heaven and sent His advocate the Holy Spirit to guide them.
I'm wondering what you conaider the Holy Spirit then?
”And after eight days His disciples were again inside, and Thomas with them. Jesus came, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, “Peace to you!” Then He said to Thomas, “Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing.” And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!” Jesus said to him, “Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”“
John 20:26-29 NKJV
John 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life.
Revelation 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
Hebrews 1:8
But unto the Son [he saith], Thy throne, O God, [is] for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness [is] the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Colossians 1:16-20
16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.
Actually the Apostle John, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, is the one who interpreted Jesus saying that God was his Father to mean that he was implying that he was equal to God.
John 5:18 KJVS
Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
However it is valid to point out that every thing he has is from the Father.
Jesus explains that he's working because God is working, that's the equation people don't seem to understand, even though he explains it very clearly.
This what happens when you study 📚 the Bible! You find the truth that there is only one God
Exactly!
“And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.”
- 1 John 5:20 (KJV)
Mt. 26:57-68 Tell us if you are the Messiah, the Son of God.” Jesus answered him, “So you say. But I tell all of you: from this time on you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right side of the Almighty and coming on the clouds of heaven!” Caiaphas declared this was blasphemy.
Although i belong to NO religious denomination, ive been studying the main 3. Islam , christianity and judisism along side the Bible doctrines of the Jehovah's Witnesses.
As time has gone on it is CLEAR as day to me now that the Jehovah's Witnesses have the correct understanding of the Bible amd the true God himself Jehovah. Have they always had it right? No are but they have prohressed in the understanding of the Bible and have cleared all unclean pagan traditions and rituals from their religion.
”When Jesus saw their faith, He said to the paralytic, “Son, your sins are forgiven you.” And some of the scribes were sitting there and reasoning in their hearts, “Why does this Man speak blasphemies like this? Who can forgive sins but God alone?” But immediately, when Jesus perceived in His spirit that they reasoned thus within themselves, He said to them, “Why do you reason about these things in your hearts? Which is easier, to say to the paralytic, ‘Your sins are forgiven you,’ or to say, ‘Arise, take up your bed and walk’? But that you may know that the Son of Man has power on earth to forgive sins”-He said to the paralytic, “I say to you, arise, take up your bed, and go to your house.”“
Mark 2:5-11 NKJV
The power to forgive sins was also given to the apostles (John 20:23), so by your logic, the apostles also become God.
I am surprised that people who see themselves as educated are really so blind to the Bible truths such as your rejection of Jesus as God.
You people reject comparison teachings, Biblical passages you don't like, some the Book Of Revelation, and then rape from Jesus his full deity.
John 20:28, John 14th chap, Rev 1:8,11, 4:8, wind up proving you people are false teachers.
Isa 9:6 with Mal.3:10 shows there is a child born a son given and he is the mighty God and everlasting Father, that there is one Father and Jesus was clear, see him and you see the Father, Know him and you know the Father. You reject him as the I AM, Isa.43:10-11,25 & JN 8:24-26, 18:5-8.
Yes in your attempt to flee from Trinitarianism, you have fled from Jesus being the one true God Almighty.
Ignorance is what I see in the Unitarian camp. Jerry Hayes debated Willy Olmo, who had similiar views of Jesus as not God and got thrashed badly. One would have to reject plain teachings and swerve around what you don't want to see or understand to come up with such lies.
(The debate is available on Amazon).
Trinitarians are a wicked bunch and a murderous lot, you folks are just ignorant, blind or uneducated, but haven't seen that you did as a group through the centuries as they( neither did us Monarchians).
But you both will suffer the same fate, hell and eternally separated from Jesus our God. You do read other versions and the Greek Interlinear Bibles I hope when studying, because you seem to do a poor job.
@@biblicalunitarianYou seem to fail to understand, Jesus forgave sins as God in Christ, the Apostles remitted sins because of the plan of salvation through having men repent and be baptized for remission of sins. The passage describes that Jesus is doing the act and the scribes knew it ( something you fail to see) and the Apostles after Christ death given authority from him by the Spirit to do the workings of salvation with man, Jesus still is the forgiver not a Apostle. Making such comments as you made seems rather ignorant, you cannot even view the passage and see how others took it, you twist the false idea how you want it to say, Shame on you and all Unitarians for such antiChrist views .
Just wanted to add something. It's easy to miss, but in John 5:23, it appears that Jesus is saying that people will honour the Son of God, just as they have been honouring God.
It's just one of the passages which, although superficially appearing to communicate that the Son is equal to the Father, actually communicates the opposite, and especially given the context of verse 22.
People will be honouring the Son BECAUSE the Father has given Him authority to execute judgement. The honour of the Son is derived from something that the Father has done towards the Son. It's basically like how one can respect someone appointed by a king to be a judge, because they respect the king. It's like how the Egyptians respected Joseph because of the authority that Pharaoh gave to him.
🖐️♥️ .so Manny Treu insights that you are sharing here and even If i say " my Lord and my God ",i still know who i and refering to my Lord wich is Jesus and My God The God of Abraham Isaac Jacob " 📖 📯.
As a trinitarian myself that used to be non-trinitarian, I will try my best to refute these arguments.
1:28 - It is important that you don't misrepresent the argument of the trinity. Jesus Christ, according to the trinity, is not only fully God but also fully human. The son submitting to the will of the father is the way Jesus Christ sets an example for us by overcoming the fallible human within him.
2:07 - I find it interesting that you use John 5:22 as evidence against the trinity, considering in Revelation 20:12, it states that God will judge everyone in the afterlife. This, to me, is evidence that Jesus is God; not to the contrary.
2:25 - Again, the son is both fully God and fully human. To be given eternal life, you must forsake the flesh and submit yourself to the will of the father, just as Christ did.
Most of the arguments in this video are attacking the straw man. The trinity is not something that was invented without careful consideration. Jesus Christ was fully human, but also fully God because he subjected the will of the son to the will of the father.
I am glad that you addressed a couple of verses that contain evidence for the trinity but you seem to have left out the most compelling ones. I have a list of a few here:
Phillipians 2:5-7
1 Timothy 3:16
John 1:1,14
Luke 5:20-21
Colossians 1:14-17 paired with Genesis 1:1
John 5:22 paired with Revelation 20:12
John 8:56-58 paired with Exodus 3:14
Matthew 28:9 paired with Exodus 20:3-5
Mark 1:3 paired with Isaiah 40:3
Titus 2:13 paired with Isaiah 43:11-12
The point of the video was not to address every (or the strongest) Trinitarian argument, it was to show how much "Trinitarian" language that gets used, isn't from the scriptures.
I addressed 12 of the strongest trinitarian verses in this video series: th-cam.com/video/4dq2R-nKtmE/w-d-xo.html
@@biblicalunitarian Thank you for being respectful and genuinely defendant of your beliefs. But some of the strongest arguments for the trinity do not come from individual verses, but multiple scriptures side by side. Jesus is God because he claims to do things only God can do. According to Colossians 1:14-17 and John 1:3, Jesus Christ created the world. However, according to Genesis 1:1, God created the world. This and many other examples listed in my previous comment clearly testify the divinity of Jesus.
Before Abraham was, "I am".
Jesus stated He was God quite plainly. Anyone can twist the bible to make it say whay it doesn't. It does say Jesus is The Lord....Jehovah, Jehovah God.
"I am" - The blind man in John 9:9
Saying "I am" does not make you God. He explicitly claimed to be the Son of God (John 10:36), which means he is not God himself. The son of Bill is not Bill.
@biblicalunitarian - Philip asked Jesus to show him the Father. Jesus replied that He is in the Father and the Father is in Him. He and the Father are one. If you've seen me, you've seen the Father. They are one. If there is only one God, and that is truth, then Jesus is the Son of God and God. He is both. He is Lord and Savior. He is both. Only God could be Savior. Only God could be Lord. He is both. Jesus is both Lord and Messiah, the Christ. Peter made this clear in Acts 2:35-36.
If you cannot agree with what Peter taught here, you aren't following Apostolic teachings, the gospel, of Jesus at all. I pray you will get behind Jesus and lean not on your understanding.
In the book of Genesis, God said let US make man in our own image. God said US meaning He is not alone, who is the other one God is referring to?
Many scholars (even Trinitarian) think that God is speaking to his divine council, which he speaks to at other times in the OT (Psa. 89:7; Job 15:8; Jer. 23:18). I don't think three or four uses of "us" should override the thousands of times singular pronouns and verbs are used in relation to "God."
His Son, who was the Word, who dwelt with Him in heaven. John 1:1-5,14
manny so manny words you Spoke are treu and backed up with scripture brother . 🥲🖐️❤️📖📯Thank You Father in Heaven and Lord Jesus Lamb of God and Holy Spirit the Comforter for this Confirmation .
Jesus is God, do not be led astray
Philippians 2:5-11. ~ Paul explains to the church that Jesus did not find it robbery to be equal with the Father, but chose to come down as a bondservant.
Also Luke 4:41 ~ Jesus was healing many from divers diseases and many demons came out of these people, even the demons were afraid of Jesus knowing He was the Son of God. All throughout scripture of the N.T Jesus has done many miracles, a man does not have the ability to do that unless He was Holy and had the authority of God Himself. No man is sinless but Jesus, How would a man be born sinless and remain sinless? Yet even legion which means many demons were casted from a man by Jesus power and yet they begged Jesus to put them in swine because they didn’t want to be destroyed for ETERNITY, if Jesus was just a man the demons would not be so fearful. Only God has the ability.
Also through scripture Jesus chose to forgive many who have sinned and also healed them. Luke 7:40-48 ~ Mark 2:7 (Pharisees knew that only God can forgive sin)
Revelation 21:3-8 (God says He is the alpha and the omega, the first and the last) -> Revelation 22:12-16 (Jesus says He is the alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last) ~ Why would Jesus claim that?
Isaiah 44:6 (God says He is the first and the last and beside Him is no God) -> Revelation 1:17-18 (Jesus makes that same statement, after He was resurrected, aren’t you going to believe the man who resurrected after being clinically dead 3 DAYS)
Isaiah 41:4 (not the only scriptures where God says He is the first and the last and yet Jesus said that’s who He is)
Revelation 2:8 (says He is the the first and the last again)
Isaiah 42:8 (He said He will not give His glory to any other) -> John 16:14-16 ( Jesus claims that God will glorify Him; DEFINITION of Glorify is To give glory, honor, or High praise to. He also said all things the father has are His and even said that the people would not see Him because He was going back to the Father)
Isaiah 43:10-13 (God said that before Him was there no other God formed and neither shall there be after Him which states God has just always been. He also said that beside Him is not savior, and before the day was, God was always there) -> John 3:16-17 (God sent His ONLY Begotten; DEFINITION of Begotten is naturally exists, so Jesus wasn’t just created by God so it’s His son, no Jesus already existed before He came to Heaven that’s another reason why it says Jesus was SENT so through HIM we would be SAVED, If God said there is no savior beside Him then what would that make Jesus… GOD) -> 2 Peter 3:18 (Peter says that Jesus is our LORD & SAVIOR and then says glory goes to Him both now and FOREVER) all over scripture it says Jesus is our lord and savior, that can’t be hidden we know this.
John 14:6 (Jesus says He is the way the truth and the life, no man cometh to the father but through Him, why would Jesus just call Him the father if He wasn’t apart of the GodHead? Wouldn’t He just call Him God?
Yet again He does say that neither does He or the angels know when the time of the end shall come but the Father, but He also was limited to a human beings body and yet wasn’t fully God, He came to not receive praise from men but to give praise all to the father because yet again Jesus was half man.
John 14-19
1 Timothy 16-17
Also read John 4 (Talks about the woman at the well)
"before Abraham was, I AM"
Jesus is I AM
He is God
@BornAgainEnglishmanKJV what did God tell moses His name was?
@BornAgainEnglishmanKJV 58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.” 59 So they picked up stones to throw at him, but Jesus hid himself and went out of the temple.
they tried to stone Him because they knew who I AM is and they called Him a blasphemer for saying He is God
if Jesus isn't God, who is He and why did His death on the cross save us?
i guess the paralytic fella in john 9:9 was also god
@@xxxViceroyxxx what translation are u reading?
9 Some said, “It is he.” Others said, “No, but he is like him.” He kept saying, “I am the man.”
@@tomtemple69 ya, same term, ego eimi. It’s a mundane way of identifying oneself, not some divine signifier
Just wanted to point out that when he showed the image John 20:28, in the corner it incorrectly showed John 10:28!
Also, when Thomas said, “my lord and my god”; ALL punctuation is supplied by the translator!
Modern punctuation DIDN’T exist in Ancient Greek OR Hebrew!
It’s also equally possible that he said,
“My Lord!!” and “My God!!”
That makes a HUGE difference!
ALSO, he DIDN’T immediately go down on his hands and knees in worship!
There are different problems here:1: When the Jews are wrong, we are told either by Jesus or by the Scripture, example being with the temple
2:The Son does nothing on his own because according to Matthew 20:28 he came down to serve not to be served, Paul explains in Philippians 2 that Jesus is God but emptied himself to serve
5:21 doesn't prove anything especially since in John 10, we learn that it is Jesus' own voice and own power that leads his sheep to salvation
also no, there is no misunderstanding when the Jews say:you are claiming to be God, in fact, in John 10:22-39, Jesus not only applies to himself Isaiah 43, Deuteronomy 32 and Psalm 95, he is the God who will judge these wicked "Gods" of Psalm 82
10:29 yes the Father is greater than All and 10:30, I and the Father are One
as for the Thomas example, this is why I don't like Unitarians, he blatantly confirms Thomas' faith and doesn't gliss over it, he is outright saying:yeah you're right
as for Jesus being the Son of God, it is because in the Trinity he is God the SON, also the Son of a man is a dog? The son of a dog is a man? Why isn't the Son of God divine? Like, there's no reason to assume that God would be different and Jesus taught his divinity, also John 12, Jesus says that Isaiah in Isaiah 53 and Isaiah 6 saw Jesus' glory despite he saw Yaweh's Glory and chapter 6 is about Isaiah in front of Yaweh's throne
like, let's also not ignore how Peter in both his epistles said that Jesus is God(2 Peter 1:1 and 1 Peter 3:14-15 quoting Isaiah 8:12-13 but changing Yaweh of hosts with Christ the Lord)
There is a lot I could respond to, but I will only respond to a few of your points for time's sake. Yes, in maybe one place Jesus is called God (John 20:28) but I think there is a better understanding of that - www.biblicalunitarian.com/verses/john-20-28
But Trinitarians must ignore the thousands of times God is someone different from Jesus (John 14:1; Matt. 3:9; 5:8, 9; 6:24, 30; etc.). The biblical authors clearly think God is someone different from Jesus.
Also, being the "son of God" does not make you by nature "God." Adam was called the Son of God, do you think he is God? What about angels, they are called "sons of God"?
How do you understand Jesus in John 17:3? Do you see how Jesus does not include himself as part of the "Only True God?"