Jesus Is Lower Than God Even After His Exaltation
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- Although the scriptures are clear that Jesus is lower than God while here on earth, Johnny Barnes explores how even after Jesus is exalted and resurrected, he is still lower and subordinate to God. His analysis entails Hebrews 1, 1 Corinthians 15, and the similarities between our resurrected bodies and Jesus’ resurrected body.
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Verses: Hebrews 1, 1 Cor. 15:27-28
Jesus was exalted, and you can only exalt an inferior being, God can't possibly be exalted because he's the highest being in the universe!
@KinggofJudah.111 God is not flesh, I know you're implying that he's Jesus, but God would die, and he doesn't, imagine God in a women's womb, that would be funny!
I have no idea what you're saying!
Dude. Your videos are amazing. Stay encouraged. You are very much loved and appreciated.
I appreciate that so much!
It makes what Jesus did as a man that much more powerful to me. He was able to resist temptation because of Holy Spirit fully being in Him and Him in Holy Spirit. It means we have the ability to love everyone the same as Him.
Bingo! THATS THE WHOLE POINT! 🎉
@@Episcopalianacolyte This is about Christ being the Head of the church and the positions Jesus created for the church.
The sacrifice of a man submitting his will to God's will over his own, that is real Christianity. None of that pagan incarnation stuff.
@@Episcopalianacolyte The religion you borrowed half of your scriptures from (Judaism) recognizes incarnation as paganism.
@@Episcopalianacolyte "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."
Where does it say the messiah would literally be God incarnate? Jesus came in the name of God, like every other prophet before him.
The fact that we are often called Jesus’ brothers and sisters and not his daughters and sons, is reason enough to consider there is a difference. Seek the truth with your whole heart and you will notice these differences.
Good point.
@JordanJackson41 prove it
@JordanJackson41 this explains nothing. Who sits at the right hand of God?
@JordanJackson41 There is no complelling reason to assume Jesus is God simply because of that title. Christ is the first born from the dead and he will be the one to call the last people out of their graves. He is both the Author and the Finisher of faith. He is the man by whom God will judge the world. As we can see. This title fits him well and it is important to keep in mind that those of similar status commonly use the same title. Here lies the problem. You already believe Jesus is God so you assume that this proves it instead of simply understanding the text and Jesus role in being called a similar title.
@JordanJackson41 goodness. Why do you keep reading into the text?
Hebrew 1:8 reads directly from Psalm 45:6.
Study Psalm 45. It does not support a trinity. It’s referenced in Hebrews as a promise kept.
Hebrew 1:6 why would Jesus Christ, the ruler of God’s creation and worthy of all the praise and honor, not be worthy of praise and worship?
Hebrews 1:2 you’ve been hoodwinked here. The word you see in the KJV for “worlds” is “aiōn” in Greek. The correct translation here is actually “ages.” There are other Greek words for “world” and “worlds” but this is not it. Your KJV translators are trinitarian so theres that. “Ages” when studied in the scriptures always refers to the fulfilling of time.
Hebrew 1:10 is a far stretch. You can look at it a couple different ways. 1) It could be a continuation of the character of God in verse 9 where God is called “his God” (not the same God as you would like to believe). OR 2) It could be referring to the heaven and earth that Jesus will create in the future. Either way, verse 13 says Jesus is at the right hand. He is a distinct being even in heaven. Not 3 in 1 or 2 in 1.
Jesus said it best himself "i came to do the will of my Father".
Yes, I agree with everything you have said. Trinitarianism and Jesus being God has been pushed for 1500 years at least, those who read the Bible will find these doctrines to be false, no apostle nor Jesus himself believed in a Trinity or in Jesus being God. Jesus is our big brother, a perfect human with the given task of being the lamb of the Father.
Who raised Jesus from the dead?
@@shanebell2514 I know some say he did but as Spirit, the Father and Jesus were one, however he was dead so it was the Father, Acts 2:24 says “ but God raised him from the dead, loosing the pangs of death…”, Galatians 1:1 “ Paul, an apostle, not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God, the Father who raised him from the dead”.
@@fcastellanos57 not just some say He did, Jesus himself said He would raise himself in John 2:19-21.
@@shanebell2514 does it make sense? Did he die or not? We have to make sense of what we read.
@@fcastellanos57 He died, the scriptures make it clear, He said Himself "Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days.” They replied, “It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and you are going to raise it in three days?” But the temple he had spoken of was his body."
They destroyed the Temple (His body, He died) and then after Jesus raised it, His body.
Obviously we are NOT brothers and sisters of God.
In Christ we are brothers and sisters of the man Jesus.
I just want to say that it is wonderful that content is coming back to this channel. I know everybody there is very busy, but to have something downloaded at least once a month is really helpful to getting people aware of who the True God is...the Father. Thank you.
Glad you enjoy it!
@@biblicalunitarian its more than enjoy it. Its urgently needed.
No, The True God is One but in Three Persons. Father, Son and Holy Spirit. All three persons are equal between them and they share the same nature or essence. When we use the word GOD, we mean all three “persons” together. When we say Father we mean only the one of the three persons of God, the Father (He is a Father because He has a Son. And the Son is a Son because He Is born by a Father. And the Spirit emanates from the Father through the Son). This is the Orthodox Christianity's belief for the last 2000 years.
@@giogonis9364 Is Jesus separate from the father?
Who raised Jesus from the dead?
I am so glad I found this video and your channel.
I have never and will never believe the Trinity, it's simply too confusing and unbiblical.
The killer scipture you pointed out is Philipians 3. If one accepts the Trinity, then according to Philipians 3, we would then become little gods, that is no way biblical.
Our creator would never have come to Earth, be subjected to imperfect humans, be spat upon, cursed, whipped and crucified.
Satan would never have tried to tempt our heavenly father after the baptisim, if Jesus was GOD.
I will stand by the fact the Jesus is the son of GOD, but he is not GOD.
When Jesus did or said something, it was because the father taught him or told him. Jesus did nothing of his own accord.
Thanks for this excellent video.
Never be quite against the Trinity.
GOD's blessings to you all.
Who raised Jesus from the dead?
@@shanebell2514 It wasn't himself.
@@IanSRutter read John 2:19-21.
@@shanebell2514So you are gnostic 😂
@@emmanuelyahaya-nh9fq not at all.
I liked the message and I like how patient and careful you are in how you explain everything. You’re very thorough and detailed and it helps a lot to grasp this understanding because a lot of people are quick to anger and judgment, but not quick to hear and to listen, we’re all learning and I’m thankful again for this message. God bless!
I can.t wait to hear more from you my brother. Wow you are gifted and so young. Your voice and ability to explain the Word in a calm and easy to comprehend style is refreshing.
Jesus has a God. Rev 3.2, Rev 3.12.
That's where they get stumped. Jesus has a God. God doesn't.
Not stumped. Don’t they say that that is only applying to Christ in his human nature?
Thanks for pointing out Revelation 3:2 did not notice that
@@xxxViceroyxxx yes, I get that same feedback that Jesus has dual nature, man and God, which is hard to convince a trinitarian that he’s a man because ignore that truth they’re more interested in defending their thinking, seeking the truth
@@xxxViceroyxxx Probably, but the bible says that Jesus is a man.
I was raised on scripture and learned from bible study that Christ is NOT the father/God, and I have studied, and debated this topic a LOT growing up, and I honestly cannot even fathom how the ludicrous idea that Christ IS God ever even gained traction in the first place, as the body of the scriptures, when read in context, shows beyond the shadow of a doubt for me that common sense and reason shows clearly that Christ is below God, and that he was the "firstborn of all creation" and is second to god. The whole concept of him being God is downright idiotic to me, it takes such a stretch and convoluting the scriptures to even sell the idea lol...
Thank you! This video made me so happy... All praise to Abba YHWH and indeed we come to him through his beloved son Yeshua the Messiah.
Yeah the bible also says that the beloved son and messiah is actually God himself. Surprise that's the revelation! 🤣🤣 .
In the opening letters of the Gospels and Epistles, the authors frequently express gratitude to two distinct figures-God and Jesus Christ. The name of God, Yahweh, is often not explicitly mentioned because it was assumed that the audience was already familiar with it. Instead, the letters typically acknowledge God as the Father and Jesus Christ as His Son, highlighting their unique roles in the salvation story. This distinction emphasizes that Jesus, while divine, is not to be equated with God the Father but is rather His appointed Messenger and Savior.
Great points: Thank you stay with the Truth please. Two persons with two names.
AMEN! Finally someone reads their Bibles. Yehovah is our God, Yehovah alone.
I'm trying contact the speaker , but he doesn't answer, since he will rise as Jesus, I want to pay him to rise me up from the dead in case I miss jesus voice .
If you believe what he says that you will Resurrect like Jesus, I can find costumers for you too. What do you think?
@@sura2proyect428 wrong address, lad
Jesus is our Lord and Savior.
The Quran confirms that Jesus is the exalted servant of God:
”He said: "I am God's servant, He has given me the scripture and made me a prophet."19:30
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Glory be to the One who took His servant by night from the Holy of Holies to the farthest place of worship whose surroundings WE have blessed, so that We may show him of Our signs. Indeed, He is the Listener, the Seer.”17:1
The Quran has no Biblical support whatsoever and is just Jewish mysticism.
God bless you and your message brother
We also had the same answers and conclusion but i must say that you have the gift of teaching. The way you put it together is awesome. It just break strongholds
Wow 😮this changes so much. I have had 2 life threatening conditions thrown at me this week but God has given me a second chance, as the saying goes ‘I have dodged a bullet’ or bullets 😔 which at that point I knew I have to give all control to him, his way is truly perfect. All these verses have confused me as a young Christian and thought that I had to just believe but not understand. Then I read the Holy Spirit teaches and helps us understand, so he must mean about who Jesus and the father is, as separate persons. I always thought Jesus was God and an equal but scripture contradicts this, so instead of accepting this but not understanding this, is not growing in him and through him. So now in learning this, it really emphasises how Jesus understands us completely as humans. Thank you for explaining these crucial lessons that we should not struggle with scripture but start to have a clearer understanding.
Of course! So happy to help!
All of God's creation is one with God.
John 17:20-23
King James Version
20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
As a Latter Day Saint, I agree with most of this. You're definitely closer than Trinitarian Christian understanding. We know that Christ is subject to His Father, above the angels (and us) but lower than His Father. The scriptures don't make sense any other way. Even in His exaltation, He is still lower in the hierarchy, beneath the Father. And this hierarchy will never change. Just as my son, though he may become a father one day, my husband will ALWAYS be his father, regardless of him becoming a father himself. The Father will always be the Father, the Son will always be His Son, even while exalted, that does not change. God bless! ~xoxo
Excellent info. Thank You 😊👍👍
Most Christians don't even consider how what they have heard and believe doesn't even match up with what is clearly stated in the Bible. To me it is simple: If Jesus was/is GOD, I'm not impressed with what He did.
I think it is really really easy to find ways to make the inconsistencies make sense. Very little effort is involved. Mostly out of fear. The word “heretic” rang in my ears quite often as a previous trinitarian and the church community was like a pitchfork when I turned away from the “Jesus is God” theology. Many are called by few are chosen……truly.
@@MissusTayIoryeah, you get to see how Jesus had to deal with the religious majority (pharisees) in his day.
A wrong religious majority. Thats what they were, and back at Babel, and back at the flood.
blessings.
@@ken440 Excellent choice of words. The trinitarians are the majority today and that alone is a cause for concern when considering the world we live in.
@@MissusTayIor yes. biblically a majority position is a dangerous one. Just that alone should be a logical flag in reading scripture,,, narrow is the way.... eye of a needle.... swallow a camel... it goes on.
blessings.
Your knee will bow one day before Him, regardless. Better for you, it bends now.
Thank you!
What about Rev 3 :12? Even in his glorified heavenly state, Jesus still has a God. Indeed, throughout the Book of Revelation, he is pictured as one other than God.
@PeoplesTemple : Did you address REv 3 :12 ?
Hebrews 1 :8, 9 is a quote from Psalm 45:6,7 where , in many translations, a Hebrew King is addressed as 'God.'. Clearly ther King was NOT actually YHWH but only God in a lesser sense of the term or God in a representational sense..
The whole point of Hebrews was to reassure Hebrew Chrisatians that Jesus wss greater than Moses, the Law; the High Priest, The Temple etc.This line of argument only works if the readers believe he is one other than YHWH, otherwise the whole point of the book would be redundant.
@PeoplesTemple : Yes, I suppose that Jesus could be called 'God' in a representataive sense just as Moses, Judges and angels were given that title too. Of course, many translators render the Psalm in a way that removes any ambiguity :
God is thy throne for ever and ever. (Moffat)
God is your throne (An American Translation)
God is your throne (Byington)
God is your throne (NSB)
God is your throne (Barclay)
It seems that reminding the King that he sat on God's throne is much more accurate than calling him 'God'. If we quote from this version, the Don is NOT called God at all.
@JordanJackson41 It's the Psalmist talking to the Son not the Father. It's worded "God is thy throne, Your divine throne, You throne is of God"etc........... Sorry, your claim is wrong.
JOHN 17,3 EN TIMOTHY 2,5 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
no other GOD besides HIM. not allah budda shiva/ganesh evolution/science en CERTAINLY NOT our 100% exalted human mediator Christ
THE SHEMA is the LAWS of all laws !!!!!!
Could you please enable the automatic subtitles option? I'm not that advanced in English, so miss some parts.
I agree everything that is said in this video...Also it says God exalted Jesus..That means God gave Jesus more power and rank..Why would God give himself more power and rank?he is God..he don't have to exalt himself..that's why I also believe Jesus is not God
Thank you
#protectthechilden #cancelhalloween
Great stuff man. I'm not hating, but the way you say Jesus makes me laugh 😂
Jesus encourage all to learn from him, why?, because he only revealed the secrets of kingdom of heaven to his apostles alone, while he spoke figurative ,divisive words to his critics, here are verses, Mat, 10:26-28/ 13:10-11/ Mark, 4:34/ and the divisive words @ Mat, 10:34-36, Therefore, when he said, I and my father are one, he spoke this to his critics, @John 10:27-30/ they are not literally one, While he also said, My father is greater than I, this is the truth, @John,14:28,
John 8 18 Jesus said your law needs 2 witnesses..I am 1 witness my father is the other witness..If Jesus was God that would be only one witness..So I believe in my heart that Jesus is the Messiah and not God..I believe he was sent by God to earth .
To deny Jesus's divinity is to believe in a different God. You believe in a man Jesus i believe in the God man Jesus.
So good; so clear! 😇
I would like you to do a livestream discussion with Matt Slick on the Trinity and the Deity of Christ. That would be an interesting discussion to watch.
The church has lied about so much that we have to start over and ask Yehovah (ALMIGHTY GOD) to show us the truth which is the ONE FAITH TORAH (not religion)! Yeshua Hamashiach is the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF YEHOVAH and was born Jewish, lived His life Jewish, died Jewish and will return back to earth as Yeshua Ben David King of the world‼️ The Jewish people that know TORAH know that there's only ONE GOD and they know that christianity is fully flawed! As the Apostle Paul said what advantage has the Jew? Much in every way, they were entrusted with the oracles of Yehovah (GOD) Romans chapter 3. Keep studying to show yourself approved unto Yehovah. We're living in an exciting time that GOD has revealed to us HIS NAME (Yehovah) and HIS SON'S NAME YESHUA our Messiah‼️ Hallelujah and may HE finish the work that he started in you. The AUTHOR AND FINISHER OF OUR FAITH‼️ Shalom
I agree , we need a recap because EVERYTHING IS SO CONFUSING!! Idk what to believe 😂😂😂
The POINT IS, NO ONE COMES TO THE FATHER BUT THROUGH JESUS. PROTOCOL AND PROCESS.
He purged our sins by shedding blood on a passover. Thats how he gives them that eternal life. Jesus is Gods provided lamb as a covering for His family, all who by faith come under the blood are saved. God saves them Himself by being the provider of the lamb of salvation. Jesus saves by BEING THE PROVISION and we can save ourselves by making the choice to ACCEPT THE PROVISION.
Protocol and process indeed!
Right on Brother 🙏👍
How about all the verses in Revelation?
You mean Rev 1.5-6, Rev 3.2, Rev 3.12?
This is very good... but I've done a search of all the videos on this channel. Are there any videos that challenge the Sovereignty teaching?
Thanks! Not sure what you mean by THE Sovereignty teaching?
In aramaic , sovereign is from the word King.
Malik (Aramaic) is unto melech (Hebrew).. This attribute is for human. E. G. Jesus was sent to Jews as a Malik (ruler)
When referring to the one God who has control over everything, then it it prefixed with Al- (Al-malik).
English e. g.
Man is mighty
THE Almighty (god)
You will understand that AL had come from AL- in Aramaic or Arabic lexicons and is singular form only.
The Catholic is seriously confused as they don't learn morphological state and lexicons of the biblical language.
@@biblicalunitarian what I mean is challenging the "God Controls Everything " teaching
Why do none of your videos ever have closed captioning?
It's not about one person being lower than another person. It's about a singular, omnipotent, unipersonal Spirit - the one true God (who revealed his name to be JESUS) - manifesting himself in a lower, visible-to-mankind existence...while simultaneously remaining unchanged in his higher, invisible-to-mankind existence.
The bible does not say this. So this you say is your speculation perhaps. The bible talks of God manifesting in the man Jesus. A second Adam who was miraculously formed in the woman Mary. A man who only says what God says through him.
@ronaldorivera4674 we just follow the bible, simple really.
@@JaieKeller
God is a unipersonal Spirit (John 4:24), but his only begotten Son is not some other person who is distinct from God (and therefore "lower" than God).
God, the unipersonal Spirit, "came down from heaven" _without leaving heaven,_ and manifested _himself_ on earth in genuine human form, *as **_his own_** Son.* Which means _he_ - the unipersonal God - was dwelling simultaneously in two incomprehensibly different levels of existence: (1) his eternal level of existence _far beyond_ our space-time continuum, in which he cannot be tempted, and in which he can never die, and (2) a genuinely human level of existence _within_ our space-time continuum, in which he could genuinely experience what it's like to be tempted, and in which he could genuinely die.
Because the unipersonal God was dwelling simultaneously in two vastly different levels of existence - a "higher" heavenly existence and a "lower" earthly existence - he was able to deliver on his seemingly impossible promise to both die _and_ raise _himself_ from the dead: _"JESUS answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days _*_*I*_*_ will raise it up."_ (John 2:19)
AMENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
only YAH/YHWH IS ALL POWERFULL en had no beginning
everything else besides HIM ONLY was created/formed
the self existing one needs NOBODY/NOTHING ONLY HE ONLY !!!
@PeoplesTemple No Jesus was begotten before , God "sent His only begotten son" , God did not create him there and then.
He burnt you on..... He also sent them into the world.@@dazzadizzy5308
YAHUAH IS LORD,THE FATHER OF IESOU,AMEN!!
What or who is the Holy Spirit?
This is a helpful appendix on the subject - www.revisedenglishversion.com/Appendix/7/What_is_the_Holy_Spirit
Trinity, false doctrine
The trinity doctrine is pagan, a man-made doctrine, taught by demons. Anyone who teaches that Jesus is fully God and yet fully human is a liar. The incarnation taught by men, defined as God becoming flesh is a lie. A mans' doctrine, taught by a man to another man, by a man with no understanding. You mentioned 1 Corinthians 8, so what does this book teach on the relationship between Elohim and Yeshua?
For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
Paul is telling you that there is one (1) God and one (1) Lord. Why does he say Jesus Christ, by whom are all things? How did God create the heavens and earth? He spoke them into existence. When you read Johns' gospel how does it start? In the beginning, ever heard this before? A Hebrew/Jew understands that if a scriptural text is referenced then the listener needs to be fully cognizant about the refenced text, as it will have bearing on the meaning of what is being said. When John says the word was God or God was the word, whichever translation you read: John is telling you that God was the "orator". God was speaking the creation into existence. This is the reason that Christ is called the word of God; this is his origin.
Hebrews 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; (He made the worlds through Christ)
Ephesians 3:9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ. (He made/spoke all things through Christ)
Revelation 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God. (Christ testifies of himself that he was the beginning of the creation)
Further in 1 Corinthians we find: 1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God. (appears we have a chain of command, not equality) John 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
Further in 1 Corinthians 15:27-28 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all. (Christ is in subjection to his Father)
Zebedees' wife asked if her sons could sit on the right and left of Christ in the kingdom. His answer: Matthew 20:20-23 And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father. (why is Christ deferring to his Father?)
Matthew 24:35-36 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. (Christ said the temple (called heaven and earth by the Jews) would be destroyed. But why didn't he know the day and hour? Because the scripture states it had an appointed (kairos) time to happen, and the Father is the one who appointed that time.
Mans' doctrine of the incarnation: God came down and took on flesh.
The scriptures doctrine of the incarnation: 1 John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. (God sent his son, not himself) John repeats this doctrine in 2 John 7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. (share this scripture with a trinity teacher)
Lastly, will leave you with this thought and it is not a paradox. It can be fully understood. God is not a God of confusion. Can God be tempted by evil? The answer is no. Was Jesus Christ tempted by evil? The answer is yes, in every way. Do you see the doctrinal problem of the trinity? God came down to earth, became a man, acted as if he could be tempted, when in all reality he can't be tempted........The gospel becomes a farce, laughable. Just a side show people, nothing to see here......
These words are strong, but sent in love. Not to condemn you. A man that loves you will tell you the truth, this happened today. I love you, your friend
Good points.
Jesus thought it not robbery to be equal with God. Phil 2:6-11
Lucifer thought it not robbery to be greater than God. Isa 14:13
Competition among God`s creation?
@JordanJackson41 Actually, the word "Lucifer" is not a name. It`s a word that means LIGHT and was used to describe Jesus also which led to that confusion...
Scripture states otherwise…Jesus said anyone who has seen me has seen the Father.
does your pastor know you are a modalist?
yes, yes, same as he is "the image of God." because Jesus is the full MANIFESTATION of his God and father.... like its all about a spirit manifesting in a man !!!
listen to this teaching and think it through. We become sons of God, glorified as he is now the first raised to glory, first of many raised to glory (yet at the moment still in earthen vessels (human bodies).
@move_i_got_this5659 can you not see the logic discontinuity in your use of language... cornerstone... therefore equals???
prayed TO GOD, therefore is God... come on. Read them again.
if you use logic like that then both JT Baptist and Isaiah are also divine because like Jesus they were "sent by God" and "sent into the world" and so also Peter is the devil, because Jesus said "get behind me satan" to poor old Peter.
@move_i_got_this5659 only BEGOTTEN son does not mean the son is God. Adam was the first created HUMAN son. while myriads of angelic spirit beings are the firstborn, created SPIRITUAL sons.
So only begotten son is correct, and chief (best) corner stone, is the foundation of Gods promise in Gen3:15 and Deut18:18, that a human, a Jewish human, will be the foundation of Gods redemption of His creation that was spoiled by that ancient serpent.
So Jesus the son of God born of Mary, obeys his God unlike the first human son of God.
@move_i_got_this5659 Yes I agree with this. But that does not mean that Jesus is God as you claimed earlier.
Jesus is a son of God, the only one born of a woman, which fulfills Gen3:15, and as one of the Israeli humans it fulfills Deut18:18 as well. And at his death he is the "Lamb of God (think passover, he dies on passover, passover lamb) he is the covering of blood that who ever calls on that authority of the provided lambs blood (us by faith) are become a member of the body that are anointed in the same spirit, so become a new man, new creation. The group of "stones" built onto that "chief corner stone" who is the promised anointed one, Jesus.
Jesus is the provision of the lamb, so God saves through provision, while Jesus the man obediently goes to the cross and pays the blood price for the first Adam, and then Jesus is raised, first of many brothers raised to glory (yet to happen.)
So what are you claiming that Jesus is God for? Jesus is NOT God, thats the whole point.
Mr. Barnes, may I suggest that you stidy verses Rev. 22: 12-14. 12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Who is saying this ❓🤔
An angel. Read John 17.3, John 20.17, Rev 1.5-6, Rev 3.2, Rev 3.12.
Good explanation.
What are your thoughts on the purpose of the resurrection of humans to heaven?
Jesus promised the little flock would receive a Kingdom and sit on thrones as he does.
When you become like Jesus, and rule with him in his kingdom, who do you govern?
They become kings and priests, who do you think they are they priests for?
I actually don't think that humans will be resurrected to heaven, but resurrected to inherit the earth (Matt. 5:5) confirming the promises made to Abraham and his children (Gen. 17:7-8).
@biblicalunitarian interesting. I agree, the earth is our home.
Adam would still be walking around if he had not rebelled.
But I also read of Jesus saying his Kingdom is heavenly. (Matt5:3)
And the ones with the heavenly calling(Heb3:1), are redeemed (or bought) from the earth, according to Rev14:3.
If Jesus told them they would sit on thrones in his Kingdom, the kingdom is in the heavens, they are bought from the earth and rule with Christ, doesn't that sound like a heavenly government, who's subjects are living the dream on the earth?
Do you believe the being who became the human Jesus existed in heaven before he came to earth??
No, we believe that Jesus' life began in the womb of Mary. And that he was a true descendant of David. So, we do not believe in pre-existence, but there are quite a few Unitarians who do.
@ Thank you. What are your thoughts on John 17:5?
@alanhope8971 I think it certainly could be taken as teaching pre-existence (I don't want to knock people who understand it that way), however, this is an explanation from a non-pre-existence perspective: www.biblicalunitarian.com/verses/john-17-5
Bravo! And like the FIRST creation of Adam (Gen. 1.26; not Gen. 2.7), Adam started out as spirit, but empty of experience. He needed knowledge which he got from the Tree of Knowledge.
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@PeoplesTemlple48 No! He started out in the image of God (Gen. 1.26), and that image is most definitely *_not_* one of dirt.
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@PeoplesTemlple48 No!
The Tree of Life is *_not_* a physical, biological tree for it existed before the first atoms were created -- in Heaven -- as a pattern of spiritual concepts.
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@JordanJackson41Neither of those back up your claim. Read carefully,
* Genesis 1.26
* Genesis 2.7
* Genesis 6.3
* John 3.6
God is not flesh, for that is NOT His image; neither is He dust.
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Yea why would the writer of Hebrews feel the need to tell us that God who created the Angels has been given a name greater than the angels he created!😂😵💫
God created archangel . Jesus is savior and son of god and father of human or he is adam.
You people really need to read your Bible more carefully. You are really missing it.
could be the boot is on the other foot.
Hi, thanks for the video! For clarification purposes, when we say Jesus is lower than "God," do we mean that Jesus is lower than "theos" or lower than the Father? Does the word "God" always mean "the Father" in the New Testament?
Lower than the Father. Although 99% of the time, theos is referring to the Father. A few exceptions are John 10:34-35 and Heb. 1:8 (maybe).
He’s above the angles because mankind is god’s greatest creation. The angles were commanded to bow to man upon our creation.
Satan refused to bow because of his pride so he was cast down.
Chronology and context .All new testament writers were an eyewitness or a scribe of an eyewitness and written in the apostolic period and were verified by living witnesses.. Johns revelation was the closing of Canon.
Matthews gospel is written by Peter's tax collector, an orderly account relevant to the Jesus being the rightful heir to the throne of David. It's a Jewish Legalistic document.
Mark wrote from Peter's testimony and account. Mark was likely the mysterious young lad in the gospel. This book portrays Jesus as the suffering servant healing people and casting out demons. Interestingly the seal of God is called a mark, the alpeh vav tav that Cain received. Forgiveness by the leader of the covenant of the nail.
Luke was a doctor, a gentile companion of Paul who travelled with the apostles. Paul and the apostles all met Christ personally. The account seems to draw original testimony from as far back as Zachariah and Mary who pondered these things and kept them in her heart. Luke gospel gives all evidence for Jesus fulfilling the 'son of God' archetype such as Melchizedek and who the prophets all saw ascending to heaven as our eternal high priest. Interestingly, the word Luke comes from Lux, or light .
John, the beloved writes in his gospel and later letters testifying that Jesus is the word of God made flesh , the light of men, the good Shepherd.
Thomas was the first to call Jesus YHWH and Elohim when he beheld the hand that beheld the nail. Yod hey vav hey.
The epistles and revelation all confirm that every writer in the new testament agreed that Jesus was YHWH and he died for three days and rose again.
Greater than angels or previous messengers?
.... and who is I Am
There is only one that stands between you the spirit of God and you the carnal mind.... which one does God save? Christ the anointed one Jesus whom God saves.... *YOU* The Spirit
@@achildofthelight4725 “I am” is Not a name.
@@Nbovfm11 agreed
Father, Son and Holy Spirit just as water comes in three forms, Liquid, Ice and steam but they are one. Messiah Yeshua, Jesus Christ is God, the Holy Spirit is the Lambs Wife the Spirit of truth. They are one with God the Father, The Lambs Wife is God, Eve from the Garden of Eden was created in her Image and likeness I AM that I AM man and woman. The Seven Spirits of God is our Mother the Spirit and the Bride. The Hidden Manna
isnt this modalism? lol
@@xxxViceroyxxxa very mixed up modalism, kind of mother goddess mixed with modalism.
God isn’t water u Mexican
Jesus died. God cannot die. God raised Jesus from the dead. Jesus wasn't able to raise himself. While Jesus was in the Garden of Gethsemane, he asked the Father three times that if it was possible to "remove this cup" from him. If he was God, he wouldn't have asked. He would have already known.
We're Unitarian. Jesus WAS God ( John 1:1). God left Jesus at the cross. Jesus doesn't even know his return.
Who raised Jesus from the dead?
Only the chosen ones who will rule with Jesus in heaven get similar spirit forms as Jesus.
The meek hearted will inherit the earth - Matthew 5:5.
Jesus is definitely not God.
another thought is all christians are promised sonship and glorifying above the elohim sons of God, while Mathew 5 is a Jewish messiah teaching other Jews about life in the kingdom, still pending. Jesus was speaking to his jewish followers, not christians.
Seem logical?
@@ken440 : Jewish followers of Jesus were Christians. Still are.
All Christians do not get to be like Jesus. Only the few CHOSEN ONES have that spirit resurrection. See Philippians 3:20,21.
Others inherit the earth.
(Psalm 37:29) The righteous will possess the earth, And they will live forever on it.
@@tongakhan230 philipians is instruction to christians.
Psalms is hebrew scriptures.
Thats the difference, psalms is NOT instruction to the new creation in christ.
Read the epistles and Acts for dorect instruction to church, which is a new creation after christ was raised. thats why Paul says YIU ARE NETHER JEW NOR GENTILE, BUT ONE NEW MAN IN CHRIST (anointing)
@@ken440 : All Christians do not become part of the Israel of God. Only those in the New Covenant do. See Jeremiah 31:33, 1 Peter 2:9,10.
Philippians and the other letters are addressed to the CHOSEN ONES.
Who are the meek hearted who will INHERIT the earth? Re Matthew 5:5.
Any guess?
@@tongakhan230 no christians are Israel. they are one new creature, a new creation. All equal in the same spirit that raised christ (anointed man) from the dead. No special favourites. All christians same.
The meek you speak of if it is Jews then they will inherit the land promise given to Abraham, resurrected into the land of promise. If its all justified be it christian and jewish, then its a promise they will return to this earth, not live in heaven.
Scripture tells us God is not partial, He makes salvation available to all who call on the blood of His son, the man Jesus.
Jesus is God Jesus was place into a moral human body the same as our immortal soul and our imortal spirit was conceved into our moral human body. it was jesus' moral human body that was tested by the devil that died on the cross. Jesus was inside that human jesus, our body is what our soul controls jesus' human body is what Jesus was in control of when Jesus pray to the father it was jesus human body praying to the father . It was jesus' human body asking the father to take this cup from me. Jesus human body is what was reseructed jesus was in that human body. If you can understand this you begin to under stand the trinity.
This is wrong and unbiblical on so many levels.
Rev. 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him... even the revelation... God gave him... Jesus did not come up with the revelation by himself.
The Father always works through the Son.
Since Jesus is mothered by a human and fathered by God, how does that make Jesus fully human? If an apple seed is planted it becomes an apple. If a plum and an apricot are mixed you get a completely new creation, a pluot. Wouldn’t Jesus be that new creation? Although… thinking out loud… Jesus does say He is going to his God and our God, to His Father and our Father. So does this mean that God, the Father is human? No, it doesn’t. What does it mean then. We also become a new creation when we believe in Christ Jesus. Just asking…
Great thoughtful questions. I don't think we can take the facts of the Virgin Birth, that Jesus was born of Mary and of the Holy Spirit (God), to mean that Jesus is a God-man hybrid. In fact that would make him 50% man and 50% God, something Trinitarians definitely don't want to do, and I'm not sure of anyone who espouses this. Rather, I think we should take the clear statements in scripture about who Jesus is (1 Tim. 2:5; Acts 2:22), to define his nature for us. Adam was made fully by God, yet he was 100% man, thus, I don't think being created by God makes you God by necessity at all.
It's in the epistles.
The death of Jesus was the planting of a seed for the new mankind.
The indwelling God, Christ didn't die he is eternal . The spotless body he veiled himself in for 33 years was sacrificed to fulfill the animal sacrificial system implemented since the garden . If Jesus isn't fully God then the blood atonement doesn't work.
If he's not fully human he doesn't represent us.
It is finished. Done. Move on. Hallelujah.
@@Andy_Anas I’ve read the epistles many times… I understand the “new mankind” that is why I’ve asked the questions. Jesus is THE new mankind. He told Thomas to “thrust thy hand into my side”. So the human flesh arose as well as His spirit/essence.
Jesus says that He only speaks what He has learned from the Father. He only speaks what He’s told to say. Father God works in and through Jesus. Father is the God of Jesus and our God.
@@kp8174 chronology. The risen Christ , who is יהוה in glorified flesh is now 'God'. Flesh has been redeemed and is now divine.
Flesh sits exalted at the right hand of spirit.
The risen Christ that Paul met on the road to Damascus was יהוה.
In the Hebrew alphabet, יהוה yod hey vav hey means' behold the hand behold the nail'.
Oh I wish we had an original book of John in Hebrew, you lose so much in the Greek.
The risen Christ said (paraphrased) to Thomas ' behold my hand and behold the hole where the nail went through '
Thomas beheld the hand that held the nail and he called Jesus " my יהוה and my Elohim".
Pilate's INRI inscription above the cross in Hebrew reads-
Yeshua
Hanazri
Vemelech
Hayehudim
YHVH יהוה
"ye shall be as God"... I seem to recall that being said in Genesis 3.....
exactly right, and it didnt go well for them either.
Are you talking g about when Moses was to be "as God" to Pharoh? Because that's called divine representation, the same thing we have with Jesus except Jesus is greater than Moses.
@@bobbywolfe7191 talking about the serpent in the garden. Divine representative (as you pointed out regarding Moses) is within the bounds of what we see in scripture. As with what was mentioned in the video, the trinny view would make a "yes shall be like God" argument, which is the serpent, not God, speaking
I see what your saying....I was way off lol
@@bobbywolfe7191 you still made a strong point, hopefully one of our deluded majority brethren can see these points and think " oh heck, i been wrong all along!" good to see so many of us growing.
Then, what does it mean, That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.
Buddy read the chapter of God giving his son authority…. He gave his son authority over all….. it’s very simple.
@@phantomsylla4617 authority to be as God?
@@radostinvasilev599 no authority overall all. king of all kings, lord of all lords, one below him bc nothing is above God. To put it simply. God, Jesus, angles, us …. They try and make up interpretations and make it seem like he is God. If you read the Bible without all the garbage ppl say. You will clearly see. One God. And Jesus Christ is his son.
@@phantomsylla4617 ok. Man. I'm not against any conclusions, but should we not examine what this authority is and why we should honor the son as the father, what does it mean?
@@radostinvasilev599 bro read the chapter. Look up Jesus authority Bible chapter. It’s a chapter of god giving his son authority. We don’t honor Jesus as God cuz he’s not God. We honor him bc he’s our savior
Jesus is the son of God . Jesus is also son of man . Angel are below mankind . They are there to guide mankind . Jesus is lower then man and angels ! But in death Jesus is raised up to sit beside his father and his God .
if angels are below man why then are they above man?
why was a man exalted above angels if angels are below man?
@@jesusisthechristthesonofgod You must be a politician or Christian both like too play with words . The answer That the way God want it . But I do stand corrected Jesus was lower then angel’s KJV Hebrews 2:9
@@mrblue4602 I was just trying to help you see that angels are not beneath mankind, wasn't trying to be rude.
Luke 20:36
Neither can they die any more:
for they are equal unto the angels;
and are the children of God,
being the children of the resurrection.
@@jesusisthechristthesonofgod Didn’t think you were trying to be rude . I have read Hebrew backwards for years . Angel are here for help and as Messenger for mankind . But we do not attain equality with angels. Until are Resurrection in heaven when we become immortal then we are equal too angels. As it reads in Luke . But still a thank you for making me read Luke for bit and Hebrew for a bit . Also Psalms small passage . See if someone throw a verse at me. I read
the whole chapter! Too make sure the stipulated verse actually applies to the topic. At hand. God be with you .
@@mrblue4602 you seem like a very reasonable and wise person, or as they say in the churches "carnally minded" because you're willing to actually think about things. God bless you
JESUS IS GOD! They are 3 In one just like we are 3 in one, and have different roles.
No three in one except a worldwide brand of oil.
We arent three in one either, that is philosophy from Plato and only came into religious thinking with the church fathers after Justin Martyr etc, not a hebraic idea at all. Its greek, gentile paganism.
I fail to see why this is not obvious to any Christian who reads the Bible. Yeshua is
was and will remain subordinate to the Father. We will remain subject to Yeshua
in all matters. We are not to be given dominion over the Father or the Son at any
moment in eternity to come.
Think of it like an electromagnetic field. Each pole submits to the other .
The father glorifies and exalts the son while the son glorifies and exalts the father , while the holy spirit is the flux itself. All three in relationship, one 'it'.
Christ is God. Christ dwelled with us lower than the angels for 33 years as Immanuel, Jesus , God with us.
Chronology wise , it is finished, the pre cross Jesus isn't God in his glory that's what the transfiguration was about a peek at his former and future glory.
One god., one saviour . It's done. Finished. Hallelujah.
@@Andy_Anas When asked directly by Yeshua, “Who do you say I am?” Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."
Peter could have replied, you are GOD, but he did not. Why? Because
Yeshua never claimed to be GOD. If Yeshua did not say it is so, then
it is pure speculation for another to assert that it is so. I think it is
always best to refrain from putting words in Yeshua's mouth but, of
course you are entitled to your opinion.
@@herbdavis9765 if you read the entire 66 books of the bible it's quite clear that 'the Messiah' and 'the son of God' are in fact YHWH himself.
Chronology , context and hermeneutics.
Simon wasn't a religious person, he didn't know God nor understand God, but awaited the 'man' saviour with the rest of Israel.
Read Peter's letters post resurrection 👌
That's the revelation, that's the surprise. The type of Christ illustrated in Melchizedek is God.
Think like one of them tv shows where the boss disguises himself as an employee...
God veiled himself throughout scripture and revealed himself in Jesus. You keep cherry picking the verses where God is veiled.
All of things that Jesus says he is, God in the old testament says he is.
Lucifer claimed to be like the most high, Jesus didn't fall for that , he bent the knee to the father.
The broad synoptic view is that Jesus is God.
Who did John clear the way for? The LORD. God. Jesus came after John.
Jesus , Immanuel is God in flesh.
The word was with God and the word was God all things were made by him for him and through him but the world did not recognise him
You, by not recognising the risen Christ as God are fulfilling that exact phrase.
Jesus is *GOD tabernacling with us* if he's not then it'll all useless and in vain. That's the actual point of the exercise brother.
@@herbdavis9765 and Peter replying 'you are God' doesn't fulfil anything. God was, is and will always be.
Messiah appeared at the appointed time for an appointed purpose, the Illustration here is that this time has arrived and Jesus is Messiah. The church of the new covenant is built upon this witness.
Matthews gospel which you quoted is a legalistic document showing that Jesus is the king to sit on the throne of David. The son , the Christ.
There are 4 gospels , four levels of vision, four heads of the cherubim.
Matthew - king ( lion)
Mark- suffering servant (Bull)
Luke- high priest in the order of Melchizedek, the divine son (man)
John- the word, logos, light bread made flesh. God with us. ( Eagle)
Thomas the doubter was the first to recognise Jesus for who he really was.
The epistles explain it and Johns revelation nail it home, pardon the pun.
@@herbdavis9765 my comments keep getting deleted, I lost what I wrote the first time.
God veiled himself in scripture but was fully revealed in Jesus Christ.
People cherry pick the parts where he is veiled and use that to say he's not God.
"No one has ever seen God"
Yeah because they're blind , once you know Jesus you "see" him everywhere in scripture.
Jesus between the time of his birth and his resurrection is not greater than his father.
Until he rose again the old covenant stood and he was subject to mosaic law.
Until his blood was spilled he was not exalted.
When he rose again all things were given ( back) to him . He is above all things , all including 'the father'
Jesus is the ancient of days, the eternal living God, the one who create all things. The former things and the lowering of himself into our timeline are forgotten.
Chronology..
You quoted Peter in Matthew .
Read Peter's letters post resurrection.
There are 4 gospels, 4 levels of vision, 4 heads to the cherubim
Matthew - king / lion
Mark - servant / Bull
Luke - priest / man
John - God/ eagle
Viewed synoptically we get a picture of God and his plan of salvation.
Matthews gospel is written by Peter's tax collector, an orderly account relevant to the Jesus being the rightful heir to the throne of David. It's a Jewish Legalistic document.
No mention of Jesus being God. Just the son of God and the king of Israel.
Letting other scriptures interpret scripture we understand that the son of God and the king of Israel is actually God himself.
Mark wrote from Peter's testimony and account. Mark was likely the mysterious young lad in the gospel. This book portrays Jesus as the suffering servant healing people and casting out demons. The son of man.
Letting scripture interpret scripture, we know that this one like a son of man is actually God himself.
Luke was a doctor, a gentile companion of Paul who travelled with the apostles. Paul and the apostles all met Christ personally. The account seems to draw original testimony from as far back as Zachariah and Mary who pondered these things and kept them in her heart. Luke gospel gives all evidence for Jesus fulfilling the 'son of God' archetype such as Melchizedek and who the prophets all saw ascending to heaven as our eternal high priest.
This eternal priest and saviour that dwells with man is surprise surprise you guessed it, YHWH himself.
John, the beloved writes in his gospel and later letters testifying that Jesus is the word of God made flesh , the light of men, the good Shepherd.
Thomas was the first to call Jesus YHWH and Elohim when he beheld the hand that beheld the nail. Yod hey vav hey.
Jesus is God with us.
The epistles and revelation all confirm that every writer in the new testament agreed that Jesus was YHWH and he died for three days and rose again.
christ is above all that was created/formed except HIS GOD/LORD
who made him en even raised his son from death !!!!!
there is no other GOD besides HIM. not allah budda shiva/ganesh evolution/science en CERTAINLY NOT our 100% exalted human mediator Christ
0:26 Jesus stated I and my Father ARE ONE ! Jesus was & always will be EQUAL with the Father IN DEITY, His "inner man" was always as it was in Eternity Past, He NEVER changed when He took up residence WITHIN His temple the humanity of Jesus BODY !
One in purpose not being. Read all of the context
And through him all things were created 🫳🎤
@Rhall6451 Where were these things created? Do you mean Col1:16? What is the context of that section of scripture? (square box and microphone yourself)
@@ken440 go up 1 and read Col 1:15 brother 😋 love yah, peace be with you, trust in Christ alone.
@@Rhall6451 Thanks bro, and I do understand what you see in v15 because it says he is the firstborn of all creation. As a trinitarian believer for near 40 years I also believed this to be creation of the entire cosmos.
However in close reading of this letter, spured by the intro page in my study bible, and looking into commentaries and a wide range of teachings available now on the internet I found that this view skipped the context of the letter to the Colossians. Same thing happens in letter to Hebrews.
Colossians is a reaction by Paul to their beginning to worship angels as head of the church. Paul addresses this throughout the letter, proving that Jesus is the head of the body, the church, the ecclasia. This group the body of christ are fully explained in Ephesians, but in short are those who are anointed in the same holy spirit of God as Jesus was. The new creation in which when Jesus was raised he became the forerunner, the first fruits of a new CREATION (capitalized so you cant miss the word) and that it is our lord Jesus who has ordered spiritual angelic oversight, authorities and angels to keep watch on us, the church, the new creation. V15 points out that Jesus is the IMAGE of the invisible God. An image of something is a representation, not the thing itself.
So go back a couple verses yourself to V13 where God is the one referenced. God the one who saves us through the blood of His provided lamb.
13ᐯ He d has delivered us from e the domain of darkness and transferred us to f the kingdom of g his beloved Son,"
And in being placed in that group under His son, we become the ecclasia, the body, the NEW CREATION.
Now look at V18.
18ᐯ And r he is the head of the body, the church. He is s the beginning, t the firstborn from the dead, that in everything he might be preeminent."
Here we see that Jesus is the FIRSTBORN FROM THE DEAD. He is the BEGINNING of all this Paul points out about how Jesus is the head, not angels.
God manifests in the man Jesus, the man He provided as the last Adam, the son of God, a human son via the geneology from Adam through Shem and Abraham and David to Mary. A son who (this time) is the obedient son, and who has paid the owed blood price, been offered as the passover lamb by God, and is now raised, made lord and anointed (Acts2:22-36) and given all power and authority (like Joe was under Pharaoh... the foreshadow of intention)
So Col1:19 tells you this...
19ᐯ For u in him all the v fullness of God was pleased to dwell,"
The quotes were from the esv.
Same problem in Heb1:2 where it implies he made the "world" which causes the same misunderstanding because we moderns understand a world to be a planet. But the greek word is aieons, which we get "eons" from, meaning ages. He created the ages. V1 sets the context "ages past God spoke in various ways ...but now IN THIS TIME He speaks to us through a son, (the reason for the ages.)
I hope you see some light in this, it is carefully hidden in plain sight by religious tradition. Beware the leaven of the pharisees, the spirit of pharisee is still at work in the end of this age, as it was in the law age.
Job 32 verses 21 and 22
Anyone who is a person or one with a title will be lead away, which means executed. Now the word person comes from the Greek word kanah which is one with a title especially a surname. Big clue ? Why does it say that ? Well what is a person, I mean we all use that term when referring to someone. All person's are created by legalists not by God. God created Man, Woman or living souls he did not create Humans or person's as mentioned the devil's advocates did, which then perhaps that is why the bible warns us woe to you lawyers because you hide away the keys of knowledge. But what is a surname, what is a title ? Why would a loving creator want to destroy us if we have a title or a surname. Mathew 6 verse 24 says we CANNOT serve God and Mammon. Cannot means it is impossible right, and Mammon also means money or the god of money, money does not grow on trees and therefore it is not of nature and therefore it is not of God. Jesus says be no part of the world just as I am no part of the world, what is the world that we should be no part of? The world is defined in the King James Concordance as " the ornamental world of mankind". It is fake. And never underestimate the spell of Satan, he is in there he is the ruler of the world. So when Augustus Caesar declared himself saviour of the common people of Rome, he was talking about this in a legal sense, you will be my legal subjects under Satan, there power is derived from all those who reject the Messiah.
But can this possibly be true
To be a person or a human you have to have a surname, according to black's law dictionary 11th edition a surname is a name added to ones real name.So a surname is added to our God given Christian name and that makes a Human and a person , these are created by legalists so that we can operate in the Mammon. Let's look at Samuel Johnson's dictionary of 1755 which says under surname " A Gentilious name " and we then look in the same dictionary under Gentile " One of a uncovenanted nation one who knows not the true God" . Look under legal it says according to the law of the old compensation ( mmm we deny free grace). We look up the word secular and it says opposite to spiritual. Anyway in the legal we are debtors and the only way to accept free grace it to relinquish all legal title person surname, and we would need to be before kings and magistrates for his name's sake in order to do this. You see when looking up the term humanism it states it is the denying of the Messiah believing that mankind can reach perfection on their own.
Try God 3 in one Jesus created mother and father. Guess what I created 🤪 you 😮
The trinity is nothing less than false worship.
Zero proof for your outlandish assertion.
Keep up the good work, brother. I hate deity of Christ doctrines.
Jesus is God. If he isn't, then he's a liar because Jesus specifically states that he is God.
John 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
John 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
John 10:30 I and my Father are one.
Amen, this is the TRUTH!
@@Sam_ChristSaves No its the opposite to truth, its a lie of the enemy through religious tradition, just like the majority were fooled by the misdirection of the pharisees in the time of the death of Jesus. The majority called for his death. Now the majority would do what he refused to do himself, to be "equal with God" but instead he went humbly to the cross.
Jesus never states he is God, in saying that you accuse him of it.
He purged our sins by shedding blood on a passover. Thats how he gives them that eternal life. Jesus is Gods provided lamb as a covering for His family, all who by faith come under the blood are saved. God saves them Himself by being the provider of the lamb of salvation. Jesus saves by BEING THE PROVISION and we can save ourselves by making the choice to ACCEPT THE PROVISION.
You said yourself "My Father which gave them to me...." and in saying that you are showing two where the first is greater than the second. Does this not give you a clue, especially when Peter says "this man attested by God by miracles.... raised.... made Lord and anointed, this Jesus you killed."
Wrong!! They are "one' in guarding the sheep one in purpose. Nobody can take them out of the Father's hand and nobody can take them out of the Son's hand. They are one in guarding the sheep. The verses have nothing to do with how many people are in God!! Jesus said we are one with him and the Father in the same way!! You are lost!!
John 10:30 Lamsa Bible
I and my Father are one in accord.
John 17:21 that they will all be one, just as you, Father, are in me and I am in you. I pray that they will be in us, so that the world will believe that you sent me. 22 The glory you gave to me I have given to them, that they may be one just as we are one- 23 I in them and you in me-that they may be completely one, so that the world will know that you sent me, and you have loved them just as you have loved me.
Remeber he said the Father and I are one, Think about it, before time Jesus was with God and the Bible said he was called the Word, which put him on equal setting to the Father and the Holy Spirt
The bible does not say he is the word. The word (from the beginning) says that he will be a seed of the woman Eve, Gen3:15. That he will be a great prophet like Moses, and that God will put His words in the mans mouth. Deut18:18. My wife and I are one. Both biblically and in purpose raising our kids. Being "one" in biblical terms does NOT mean the one being. It means in unity.
@ronaldorivera4674 You think we dont see that logic? What trinitarians cant see is that if Jesus really did have a claim of actually being God, then the Jews had a legitimate rite to kill him, from their God given law. If he really was God secretly hiding in a man suit then a man claiming to be God is a death offence under Moses Law. As God Jesus would have known that.
So its stronger evidence that Jesus is a man, and was claiming that he was manifesting the unseen God to say only what God said and did through him, and in claiming to be that messiah (deut18:18) the Jewish authorities twisted his words and misunderstood their own scripture, right there at end of that age, just as trinitarianswith religious tradition do at the end of this current church age. Unitarians are the John T Baptists of this age, crying out "make straight the path of the Lord" which return is upon us.
So join the reformation while you can.
@ronaldorivera4674 No, you're wrong again!! They killed him because he claimed to be the Son of God!! The Jews didn't believe he was the Christ, the Son of God so he was charged with blasphemy!!
The Jews answered him, “We have a law, and by that law He ought to die, because He made Himself out to be the Son of God!”
Please learn how to read.
If you're willing, then please explain the verses below. If Jesus is NOT God then why would Jesus declare Himself as the First and the Last? a title that was RESERVED to God/YHWH in the Old Testament.
A. Jesus declared in the New Testament:
Revelation 1:17-18:
"Do not be afraid; I am the first and the last, and the living One; and I was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of death and of Hades."
B. God/YHWH declared in the Old Testament:
Isaiah 44:6:
"I am the first and I am the last,
And there is no God besides Me."
See, "NO God besides Me". If Jesus is NOT the same God/YHWH in the Old Testament basing from both declarations (above) then Jesus just committed the gravest of all blasphemy there is against God. Is Jesus capable of SIN?
Peace and Blessings!
Jesus understood what ‘the first and last’ means fully. It would not surprise me a bit if humans do not. Many assume its a title , but what if the depth of that title/cycle/etc. is only known to Jesus and Yehovah where he can claim such as well without TRUE blasphemy? Just a consideration.
It is true that Jesus never said the exact words, “I am God.”
He did, however, make the claim to be God in many different ways, and those who heard Him knew exactly what He was saying. For example, in John 10:30, Jesus said, “I and the Father are one.” The Jews who heard Him make that statement knew well that He was claiming to be God, as witnessed by their reaction: “His Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him” (John 10:31). When He asked them why they were attempting to stone Him, they said, “For blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God” (John 10:33). Stoning was the penalty for blasphemy (Leviticus 24:16), and the Jews plainly accused Jesus of claiming to be God.
Jesus made another statement claiming to be God when He said, “Very truly I tell you, . . . before Abraham was born, I am!” (John 8:58). The Jews, upon hearing Him, clearly understood that He was claiming preexistence and, more than that, to be Yahweh, the great “I AM” of Exodus 3:14. On this occasion, too, they tried to stone Him for blasphemy.
The Gospel of John begins with a statement of Jesus’ deity: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God” (John 1:1, emphasis added). In verse 14, John identifies the Word: “The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.” John is affirming that the Word (Jesus) is God, and He left heaven to come to earth in the form of a man to live with men and display the glory of God the Father.
The disciples of Jesus distinctly heard Him declare His deity. After Jesus’ resurrection, Thomas the doubting disciple finally understood Jesus’ deity, declaring Him to be “my Lord and my God” (John 20:28). If Jesus were not Lord and God, He would have corrected Thomas, but He did not; Thomas spoke the truth. After seeing Jesus walking on the water, His disciples worshipped Him (Matthew 14:33). When He appeared to them after the resurrection, they fell at His feet and worshipped Him (Matthew 28:9). The disciples were well aware of the Mosaic Law’s penalty for blasphemy, yet they worshipped Him as God, and Jesus accepted their worship. Jesus never rebuked people for worshipping Him, accepting their worship as good and proper.
Jesus’ deity is recognized throughout the New Testament. Paul eagerly awaited “the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ” (Titus 2:13) and encouraged us to do the same. Both Paul and John declared that Jesus created the universe (John 1:3; Colossians 1:16-17), yet Genesis 1:1 clearly says that God created the heavens and the earth. This can only mean that Jesus is God. Even God the Father referred to Jesus as God: “About the Son he says, ‘Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever’” (Hebrews 1:8, quoting Psalm 45:6).
Did Jesus say He was God? Yes, in many ways, including applying the names and attributes of God to Himself. He made it clear that He was God incarnate, proving it by His words, by His miracles, and finally by His resurrection from the dead. Although they doubted at first, those who were finally convinced of His deity understood why He had to die on the cross. If He were a mere man, His death would have been only sufficient to pay for His own sins, but because He was God in the flesh, His sacrifice was infinite and holy and able to pay for all the sins of the world.
I appreciate the long, detailed, respectful comment, however, I do not have time to respond to all of the points you made. Please stay tuned on the channel for a video in three parts called "Do 12 different people call Jesus God?" I address many of the verses you just quoted. Thanks.
@@biblicalunitarian Who raised Jesus from the dead?
Who being the brightness of His glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. Hebrews 1:3-4 Only God can purge sins. Notice v3 says he by himself purged our sins. That is because Jesus Christ is God. kjv Rev1:7-8 kjv Christ even tells us that he is God. That is the problem with other translations. God bless
What nonsense, Look at what you said... "being made so MUCH BETTER than angels" and you dont see that logically if he was God in human body then he was already so much higher than angels. He would have always had a better name than they!
"express image" of God.... can you not comprehend the meaning of an "IMAGE" as it is not the subject but an image of the subject. So many places in hebrew scripture say the messiah will be a man, and the NT says he was a man that "God raised and made to be Lord" for a season (like Joseph under pharaoh)
he purged our sins by shedding blood on a passover. Jesus is Gods provided lamb as a covering for His family, all who by faith come under the blood are saved. God saves them Himself by being the provider of the lamb of salvation. Jesus saves by BEING THE PROVISION and we can save ourselves by making the choice to ACCEPT THE PROVISION.
Mr. Keith JKV Bonnel, please read your bible with an eye to learning, not just proving your set theology please, time runs short for you.
Amen!
Revelation 2:23: (Jesus speaking) "I will kill her children with death, and all the churches shall know that I am He who searches the minds and hearts. And I will give to each one of you according to your works."
Jeremiah 17:10. "I, the LORD, search the heart, I test the mind, Even to give every man according to his ways, According to the fruit of his doings."
Hmmmm trinitarians playing therefore equals as usual, the both of you.
By doing that comparison of sayings between parts of the bible and saying "therefore the same" you will both agree that Peter is the devil? I mean by your method of proving persons then there in Luke we have Jesus own words (and as trinitarians you will say thats God speaking) Jesus says "get thee behind me satan" and so theres your proof. And to extend such logic further we have to admit that the roman catholics have bowed to satan as their pope ever since, because they claim Peter is the first Pope.
Can you not rather see that as the "Lamb of God" died on a passover and covered us with the blood of the lamb, that he is Gods provision, so therefore God most high saves us THROUGH the provision????
And as @Run4Ever77 says Jesus searches minds of those in his churches just as YHWH searches the minds of Israel in ancient times, that this is a logical step as Peter (no hes not the devil! i was simply joking to show your method sillyness)... Peter tells us in Acts2:36 that "God attested the man, raised him and made him Lord and anointed him to have authority and power (like joe was under pharaoh) so that Jesus now heads up the things God does, and will have to give it back (1cor15:28) so that once all enemies are defeated YHWH "will again be all in all." ( God is one, Jesus is the second Adam, in the authority the first Adam gave away.)
Another example of your type of logic you both claimed here... John the baptist was "sent from heaven" (Jn1:6) and so does that mean to you that he is also deity and preincarnate from eternity past? of course not!
You totally contradicted yourself!! Being made better than angels, inheriting a name, the express image of his person? God can't be made better than the angels because he's always better than the angels. God can't inherit anything and image is not the original!!
Ye are elohim (little e).
Like your a God, little a 😂😂
Jesus is God!
No he is not. Peter and Paul both tell us he is a human man raised. Moses prophesied that the messiah would be a Jewish man (Deut18:18)
Jesus died, not half of him, not a flesh man suit but Jesus himself was totally dead and resurrected by his Father. Explain how 'god' can die?
Jesus own words in Rev 1.18 I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades.
@@Somedude2020 God is spirit, the flesh died not the spirit.
@@bennysalinas9724 that just makes a total mockery of the crucifition, a flesh man suit died, 'god' however was just fine the whole time.
3 god's, 1 'essence', 2 nature's and a soulless man. Trinitarianism is the most ridiculous concept, how people are still being fooled by it is beyond me. There is 1 God and 1 begotten Son, the bible is so clear about this yet people keep repeating this non biblical man made church doctrine?
@ronaldorivera4674 neither is the 'hypostatic union' god man.
Everything this dude knows about Jesus - including which scriptures to read - was created/transmitted/preserved by the Catholic Church.
i mean dont yall fuck kids
Your reply is not accurate. This video is absolutely terrible for those looking for truth. The Trinity is fundamental. Catholics believe in one single God, who made himself known to the world (revelation) as three separate persons: God the Father, God the Son (Jesus) and God the Holy Spirit. This is known as the doctrine of the Trinity, and is a fundamental belief for all Catholics. But again, terms here are wrong because the man in this video calls himself a Christian but HE is NOT a Christian at all. Catholic Church and Universal Church are two different things. I pray people watching this will realize this: The Doctrine of the Trinity Is Crucial If We Are to Trust the Bible. The Doctrine of the Trinity Is Essential for Us to Trust Jesus. Without the Doctrine of the Trinity, There Is No Salvation from Sin. Jesus Must Be Fully God for Our Salvation to Be Accomplished. Conclusion: The Doctrine of the Trinity Is Important for Christian Belief
Therefore, unless Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit are fully God our salvation from sin cannot be assured. On the other hand, since the Bible teaches the full Deity of the Son and the Holy Spirit we can be confident that our salvation has been accomplished by the work of God the Son on the cross and that the Holy Spirit does make us a new creation in Jesus Christ. Jesus is God it is such a wonderful thing to say and know. "Jesus is GOD"
@@Sam_ChristSavesThere is no 'doctrine of the trinity' in the bible, zero teaching of this and zero teaching that you have to have a knowledge/belief in it for salvation. It is entirely church doctrine invented hundreds of years after the crucifition.
@ronaldorivera4674u a goofy. Read the Bible. 1 God. And His son. That’s it.
@ronaldorivera4674Arianism is not Biblical, because Arius still believed Jesus was God the son subordinate to God the father. Biblical unitarians don't believe Jesus is God at all, they're not Arians.
Jesus is God in the flesh. He said my father and I are one.
My wife and I are one. Both biblically and in purpose raising our kids. Being "one" in biblical terms does NOT mean the one being. It means in unity.
Where do you get this theory that being one means they are one being, that is a modern meaning of two things being one, and even then only if the same substance.
As for being God "in the flesh." In the flesh, is a biblical method of saying human, or created. For a spirit to be "in the flesh" means "manifesting." Spirits manifest in people and others cast them out.
In this case it is the spirit of God almighty that manifests in the man Jesus. See Deut18:18. Like just go and read Deut 18:18. see what it promises about a future Jewish man!!! Then think about how Jesus keeps saying "I say nothing of myself, but I say only what my God says through me."
You can still Trust in Jesus, because God raised him, seated him at Gods right hand (like Pharaoh did for Joseph) and "gave Jesus all power and authority in heaven and earth" and "MADE him Lord." (Acts2:36) (Just like Pharaoh did for Joseph)
@@ken440 Hello again Ken, some more scholarly (Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges) references for you. Trinity is core to salvation: JOHN 10:30. I and my Father are one] ‘One’ is neuter in the Greek; not one. Person, but one Substance. There is no ‘My’ in the Greek; I and the Father are one. Christ has just implied that His hand and the Father’s hand are one, which implies that He and the Father are one; and this He now asserts. They are one in power, in will, and in action: this at the very least the words roust mean; the Arian interpretation of mere moral agreement is inadequate. Whether or no Unity of Essence is actually stated here, it is certainly implied, as the Jews see. They would stone Him for making Himself God, which they would not have done had He not asserted or implied that He and the Father were one in Substance, not merely in will. And Christ does not correct them, as assuredly He would have done, had their animosity arisen out of a gross misapprehension of His words. Comp. Revelation 20:6; Revelation 22:3.. (Don't forget Jesus as God gave up many of his divine attributes such as omnipotence when he became Man.)
Ur brain doesn’t work huh
Jesus was In union with God.
Unfortunately, someone must learn Greek in order to understand the meaning of what is written originally in Greek and not lose the meanings because of unsuccessful translations. No, the Son is equal to the Father and equal to the Holy Spirit. These three persons together is the one and only God.
You need to understand basic mathematics first.
Yeah right 😂
Bruh you all wrong
1john2: 22, 23 antichrist denies the Father and Jesus the Son. Father God and Jesus the Son is our God. John 14: 28 tells us Father God is greater than Jesus the Son yet is still our God. You may not understand but believe!!
Jesus said that the Father is his God and our God.
You need to understand something to believe it.
@@jesusisthechristthesonofgod amen Jesus did say my God and your God my father and your father! Of course. Your statement about understanding to believe? Really?? So you think you understand everything about God?? Ok, if you say so!! Grace peace and blessings
@@77saint77posttrib I can see you're being disingenuous, au revior.
The trinity works in union. It's 3 in ONE.
or its two in one purpose.
No such thing as trinity God in the bible
@@AstariahJW fully agree. They dont want to hear us though, just like the pharisees wouldnt hear what Jesus said.
@@ken440 Matt Slick would like to hear from you. He has several TH-cam channels where you can leave a comment for him to respond to.
@@animallover7072 so why do you want me to visit him?