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Should you buy the $699 Ebay SBC turbo kit?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 เม.ย. 2019
- Here is the turbo kit in this video:
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Everyone wants to know, I give you the answers. Heres how the $699 Ebay/Amazon Chevy turbo kit worked out.
I’m very impressed at the result, most people would not have put the time or effort into finishing the kit. All of those out there who comment negative things like the frame notching and poor setup. Hind sight is 20/20, no one is perfect! Now that he learned how to do it, I’m sure another project would be a cake walk.
Should I do this to a 305? It’s slow as fuck. Been sitting, 5,000 miles on motor. Though it’s probably beat to shit. ( Idk much at all) but it rides rough for sure. Wanted to turbo it because it’s cool but don’t want to kill my motor too quickly. Lmk
@@dhgcrack3r111 If you gap the rings and run some head bolts. If it’s something you want and can do why not?
@@BrieferBread66 fuvk it dood
I thought running headers on a 73 Z/28 was a pain in the ass. You guys are doing Gods work beating your heads against the brick wall so we don't have to. Thanks.
Try a Firebird if you think an SBC is difficult.
@@superduty4556 My God you must really be into some serious Masochism to try and shoe horn big block headers into a second gen F-body. LOL.
@@seththomas9105 the worst part is that Pontiac exhaust ports point down, so you can't hang it on a stud.
@@superduty4556 Well that's just that "Genuine GM feeling" you get when you spend All Saturday to do a job that you think will take you 4 hours, tops.
@@superduty4556 i wanna punch whoever designed firebirds in the face, moslty everything on that damn car is a pain in the ass
As a diesel tech, you did well with what you bought. I’ve seen some OEM setups on diesels over the years that will make you scratch your head lol
Almost bought one of these kits. Then I bought a welder. The rest is history.
A welder and a snapping turtle. Yup better than jb weld and duct tape.
Yep! Exactly, and now you can do everything you need to do and do it properly. And now when one of your friends comes by and and wants to do some similar stuff, you can make a few bucks. And I'm pretty sure , well if you have a good friend anyways, they will be more than willing to throw you a few bucks because they are going to save a lot of bucks
David Grant mf truth
Did you use a snapping turtle to notch the frame??
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YOOO that's fucking funny! I'm feeling like shit because of a sinus problem so I'm miserable! But I just died laughing!!!!🤣🤣😂🤣😂🤣
ROFLMAO
Edward Thayer must be something in the air this week!!
Take care brother
Sorry, but this review is ridiculous. First of all, it doesn’t take “two hours” to change plugs, it literally takes two minutes to unbolt the turbo, down pipe, and oil feed to get to the plugs on the passenger side. Second, this kit was not designed for a mechanical fuel pump. Third, this kit called for short spark plugs, and Accel makes a good set. The kit itself was designed with a smaller 90’s LT1 stater in mind. These kits were a rip off of the BBS Designs turbo kit for the 3rd Gen F-Body, ripped off by a company called SSAutochrome. The latter made it a universal kit that needed additional fabrication, this was understood way in advance because the original BBS design needed no adjustment but had a price closer to one thousand just for the headers alone. Here you pay a fraction for the entire kit, with some adjustment requires because every SBC is different. This was always understood. It’s hilarious when newbies come along and try to reinvent the wheel a decade later because BBS did their kit in the 2000’s…
I bought one of these kits many years ago before anyone was talking about them, thank god I got rid of it before I attempted to use it.
The only suggestion I have, would have switched valve covers, so filler cap would have been on driver side. Easy access!
why would you choose to notch the frame over modifying the header...
There's a misconception, about flow being impeded if the pipe is dented. The hot Rod guys busted that myth though, in the dyno room
The frames on these is stout enough to where that small notch isnt going to affect anything at that low of hp I did the same thing on my 79 bronco took that thing everywhere offroad never one issue
jonnyjb69 my thoughts exactly!
A ball peen hammer to headers does anything you want. A cheap set of headers or chop the foundation of your ride. Watch motor trend header clearance dyno test
Cringed at that also
It's a "sure fit" system. If asked if it fits you get "sure it fits"
They meant it sure fits under the hood 😂
Honest review of the eBay kit. Dig the channel. Keep up the good work!
Does it run
I appreciate the honesty and creativity to get it done. Nice work
Props to following through and making this function. Takes a real enthusiast and mechanic to follow through with this. I had a lot of issues on my big turbo Volkswagen build also. Enough to make the average man want to quit but I chugged on, now I'm enjoying it.
P.s.- that casting on the compressor housing of that Oriental gt45 clone makes me nervous. Don't run too much boost. Lol.
Thanks for sharing I did the same when I started in turboing engines the exp and knowledge you get doing it yourself is golden and save you thousands
53 disliked blown motors lol. Super informative video. Car community thanks you 🙏
I bought the same headers from XS power for a sbc in a third gen fireturd. Was so disgusted with them I just build my own kit. All of the issues you described are %100 accurate. The plug on number 8 is pointed directly at the primary tube. XS power never let me return them and stopped responding to my emails and phone calls. Just filed a claim with paypal and they gave me back the $210 and I get to keep the headers. Maybe I can give them to someone I hate
It helps to know what you are doing before getting into a project. Then again, some people don't want to listen to any words of wisdom.
That is some true Mickey Mouse engineering. Impressive work.
😭😭😭😭😭😂😂😂😂 I laughed hard at this hagahahahhahahaha
I love Mickey Mouse!!!
At least it worked
Just flip the stock exhaust manifold up and make your own y pipe. Relocate the turbo up around the other battery box.
I'm starting to gather parts I'm planning on a similar set-up going together this summer. Good information bro I can get in front of the issues you found.
You are the first person who has had a problem with the kit.
Standard answer
I would place bets that 90% of the people making comments have never installed any cheap headers, have never had a turbo on a car. Only know stuff from what they have seen on you tube videos. We call these idiots "Certified You Tube Technicians" Ya, you know who you are. Go back to watching more videos and pretending you are an expert. But please don't stop with the ridiculous comments, it gives the real technicians something to laugh at.
It's funny cause most mechanics would mod the tube instead of notching the frame just lazy
Thank you 😂🤣
So TH-cam university is a scam?
Very true
Fuckin' A! Armchair grease monkeys. They've been criticizing and pissing off real mechanics for ages.
Rando on the internet: "Should I buy this?"
Justin: "ＮＯ"
Rando on the internet: Buys it anyways and grenades their motor. Deletes facebook posts.
Come on... most do not delete the post they just ghost...
The frame notching made me nauseous.
i know, why not just heat and hammer the header first.
That notch wont hurt anything the frame is stout enough he isnt running ungodly high hp
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@No Nam Idk the frame on my Chevy luv was not weak at all and I wouldnt leave sharp edges mostly because I wouldnt want it cutting anything I've only notched the frame on my bronco had zero issues and I wasn't particularly nice to the thing I used it like it was made but not much experience with chevy frames other than my luv
Thank you for making this good video. I am going to turbo my 69 camaro, but not sure which kit to purchase. So thank you very much for showing yours and what all the problems you had with this kit. You did a good job for what you had to work with.
I like the bright red wire that lays across the entire engine bay and motor
Thats the vacuum line for the boost gauge.
Wow a whole new meaning to the words “you get what you pay for” this kit may not even meet that requirement lol 😂
Flipped cheap speedway motors block huggers are the way to go
Haha some of the older 80s generac generators , if they used a chevy sbc/bbc on em they used zoomies.
perfect review👌🏻 i love how you explained every detail!
Still waiting on the 2nd part of the carb lol
Yeah I went with Cx racing headers they actually fit pretty good . The last tube should have been dented for clearance it’s tight but you can get a header bolt in it .. all the rest I used some studs ...
The footage got deleted. I was upset to say the least. I'll probably do another one.
Man you really really wanted to see this thing with a turbo lol I would have said nope as soon as I realized I was gonna be hacking it all together because it wasn’t built well
I've wanted to build a turbo truck for 15 years I still think it's best to make power the old fashioned way
So twin turbo it. Got it
Very good video. Glad you caught the fuel requirements. In many things your better off with custom building.
The oil restrictor is used only on ball bearing turbos, journal bearings need full oil pressure and volume.
Everybody wants to see it run
Still Sounds like less work than fabricating a kit from scratch so it seems worth it to me as long as you know it’s gonna take work.
Wanna hear a scary story? I was in my old turbo diesel Nissan going down a country freeway when all hell broke loose. The oil seal on the cold side of the turbo was breached and let plenty of oil into the motor. The 4WD took off like it had had a shot of NOS. I took it out of gear (manual), and the engine revs went well past the indicated taco range, I carefully turned the ignition off, making sure I didn't lock the steering, but she kept going due to the glow plugs. I managed to pull off the road and had to use the brakes to burn the clutch out! By this stage, I was waiting for a conrod to go through the block.
It scared the crap out of me. The roadside mechanic said that he had seen it on stationary vehicles and the only way to stop it was to put a rag in the inlet. I have had many cars with turbos both petrol and diesel but had never heard of this before.
It went "runaway". It's a diesel thing. Can happen when the turbo goes like yours did, or if the piston rings get really bad. There are compilations of it on youtube.
@@FuelInjectionSucks Yeah, that is what the mechanic called it. I certainly know about them now :)
Thanks. I've got enough troubles just doing normal upgrades on my 57 Bel Air. This would give me nightmares.
What did you do with your timing? Lock out distributor or do you still have an advance curve?
thanks, this info is helpful. it seems cheaper to use a nitrous oxide setup instead.
Nitrous will cost way more in the long run lol u only get a few passes out of a bottle, have fun refilling them
@@zacg5822 nitrous doesn't kill engines, people kill engines
Answered all my questions. I'm sticking to raw hp
Your video was really informative I was thinking about buying a cheap turbo kit for my 540i v8 if I can even find something close to working I am a 25 year mechanic and I know how to weld but even with the experience I have I know it’s not going to be easy regardless
Great video! Thank you for emphasizing the shortcomings of the system and fitment, especially the waste gate. What a project. Do they call it a "bolt on" system? I guess the old saying applies, "you get what you pay for".
I bought a twin kit for my 78. I threw most of it away. It cost me almost a grand for the kit and and close to 700 to replace what I threw out! It's not worth it in my opinion!!! I think the only stuff I used was the turbos and the oil lines! Oh and had to buy another set of cold pipes too!! Good luck to anyone who buys it!!!!
This is what separates mechanics from parts changers.
Hahaha!!!
Hey! You calling a parts changer? Ya filthy part changing ape!
Wow, what a crap after crap experience. How do u keep a straight face when telling the story? Grenaded, hilarious! And the fact that u even completed the install is impressive.
Thanks for reposting, your video helped me out a lot
Good advice, thanks for sharing.
I can't believe you hacked up that original frame. You my friend have earned ricer status
Notch the frame? Haven’t you seen engine masters where they just bash the headers with a hammer? 😁
Yeah I modified the lesser value parts.
@@FuelInjectionSucks
So you dont value the structural integrity your frame provides!?!?
Hopefully this beast is roadworthy and safe for many enjoyable years to come my friend!!!!
Fuel Injection Sucks lesser value?? Parts are temporary, especially those poor fitting types.
Smh.
Grab A Sandwich i saw that one
This is why I’m doing a bed turbo
I love these videos just fast forward to 1 min before the end everytime 😂😂😂😂
I thought about doing that a few times, but I already have some really awesome headers for my pickup so I would just buy the turbo and a generic intercooler and piping also
Awesome this is good info! Im considering picking one of these kits up for my trans am.
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I flipped shorty headers and ran the hotside under the harmonic balancer
I know you dont need complements ,because you job is clean, but man thats awesome, under my hood looks like crap I only have the motor.. so great incredible clean job
Damn bro Dedication G 😂 respect you had me rolling Foo…. An anyone posted a pic of the kit an nvr do a fallow up lol
Thank you for the warning.
I always hate when companies see an opportunity and try and take your and mine and the rest of the USA’S Money by importing junk cheap merchandise. And again, thanks for the video, and your truck is BAD ASS!!!
Thanks for telling it like it is, and yes most these "budget ebay turbo/junkyard builds"...as you said they never are heard from again
AInt on cheap way for hp.
If I could weld I may be interested in fabbing up a boosted build but refuse to put EFI on an old car and am tired of leaning over hoods
Fun as a teenager or even my 30s. Now Id rather not unless I have to .Just wanna turn the key and burn rubber.
Try center dumps of a 327
I truly applaud and respect your absolute determination and UN..YIELD..ING dedication to this project. I would have said fuck it at the frame notch. I feel that just maybe you should have too. But you did not! 👏👏👏
I used to bend these with n/a 350s. you got a strong truck with frame chunks missing and a turbo. I am assuming this is for 88-98 or something else. Glad it runs.
barry g73 bingo lol 88-98 or for a third gen Camaro or Firebird cause mine fit just right I didn’t have to mod anything also I think the blow off location work just fine the first set of these headers they made for these it had issues I’m not to sure he actually knows what he’s talking about especially when he mentioned blow thru carb Because you can’t run pressure to a regular carb because that pressure will crush your float and then leak through your Excelerator pump
Yeah I'm kool without a turbo! Great info!
Great business opportunity here if somebody actually ordered one of these kits manufactured proper exhaust manifolds and proper crossover pipes person could actually make a pretty good chunk of change here of course you'd have to have a kit for every different Chevy product but it would be an opportunity to make a pretty good dollar
At about 6:00 when u start venting about the cons and dumb design I was dying 😂 hilarious
The way he was explaining everything made me laugh 😂😂😂
No!!! Because it won't work on a BBC!!!
P.S. I would have reengineered the entire thing so it fit properly and I could do what needed to be done without removing half of it to get to sparkplugs!!
P.P.S. For what little extra horsepower you're getting, seems to me, a nitrous system would have been easier.
Any chance you can get on board with the other guys that do this like you are and sue the people misrepresenting things that say they work on eBay! Buyer protection?
You did a great job on sniffing this one out, and it would help many people and shut down the buyer predation!!!!
Thank you for this video!!
They put coils in brake lines to absorb vibration between body and frame
For a budget build like this I'd have just used stock ex manifolds. Add an intercooler in future if detonation a problem. How does it run ?
I am running the same setup just about. deleted mechanical fuel pump reloaded alternator to the right side just above the power steering pump running turbo headers on passenger side only so I don't overboost and wastegate is more efficient
Great job working through the problems, I’m guessing two options, 1st the headers were not in a jig when welded, and moved all over when the 12 yo in china welded it up, or second this kit was not the proper kit, at least not the correct headers., I’ve watched Richard holder? Does all the turbo reviews, his recommendations were to just work with the factory headers?! Build your own crossover, and buy a t4 flange., I’m guessing that fuel injection, and electric fuel pump would be ideal
You did good, the notch WONT effect it at all
And why would it lol
I'd just by the cast manifolds from Banks, a Garret, Precision, or whatever your favorite brand is turbo, and peice together the rest. I think trying to make a "cheap" Ebay kit work would cost more money in the long run.
Can you please make a video about how you got the carburetter to work and setting up your air fuel
Now you have a 600 dollar turbo in 300 dollar truck. You really worked hard on wrecking it. Should have just put a 50 hp shot of no2 on it
The audio is mint
Did you gap the rings?
Sounds like a 699$ head ache . I too seen that hotrod video but yours is MUCH more informative..
Thanks for the review!!
Bolt on kits are very expensive. You always have to do some modifications
nice video. just imagine how a kit would fit for a car that doesn't have as much room as a chevy truck., I know the frame rails are narrow but you still have a lot of room besides that. and issues like fuel pump clearance and alternator clearance is a problem like you showed wow. I want to do a turbo on my 72 C10 and that crossover pipe worries me because apparently theres like different mounting positions for the engine. it may be big block vs small block or 6 vs 8 cyl, i don't know but im pretty sure there is different engine mounting set ups on a 72. I've been practicing tig welding so like maybe I will buy the manifold and do the piping myself if i ever get to that. I don't know but I want a turbo but I'm scare of all the fitment issues and tuning and stuff. either way thanks for making this video
Thanks a lot I'll make sure I don't get one .i been looking at the lsa supercharge kit but not now
I noticed the motor never ran, good call😆
Theres a few videos of it running on my channel.
@@FuelInjectionSucks cool, I'll check it out thanks.
If choosing an IDGAF route theoretically.. you could flip the exhaust manifold upside down route the turbo and all other related components above the engine to simplify all the bullshit. Considering how low it sits in the engine bay in relation to the top of fender I wonder the precise amount of hood cutting necessary to even do that.
Straight forward video, what more can you ask for,,, I'm sure not everyone wakes up in the morning and says 'I think i,ll jump on eBay and dump $699.00 on a china turbo kit today ' ,,, and who cares if he notched the frame on a 46 year old truck,,,, it,s a runner,,, nuff said ,,,,
You do understand that you can put that turbo anywhere
If you're a fabricator
But other than that...lol. Too funny. You did a masterful job fabing everything!
Definitely especially without doing any research or building up the bottom end.
i love the chevy orange adding a turbocharger to a smogger 350 is cool and cheap hp up grade being that thy have such low compression from the factory
🤣🤣im glad i saw this cs I definitely had the kit sitting in my eBay cart
I would move the alternator to the bottom if it was for my project
Damn all that work to get gapped by a stock efi 6.0
Rob Jackson I gap stock 6.0s daily with a 350 haha
Rather go procharge, thanks for this info, was thinking of putting a similar turbo on my 383.
M.O.W.D.E.R. That spells engine!
How is your 7000 hp rv doing? Does it run in the 10s yet?
He's been driving it since Fall problem free. Thanks for the sub!
Thanks for the useful information
So is having no intercooler a problem?
YzFDyL it’s not that big of a problem, the turbo would be blowing hot air instead of cool air into the engine and hot air will give you less horsepower cause it’s less dense
@@keatonking879 yep
If you're running low boost and a blow-through carb you often don't need an intercooler. The fuel vaporization in the carb helps cool the charge.
You can add an intercooler if you want to, it won't hurt anything. But you don't actually need one if you're only running like 8-12psi.
If you turn up the boost above that you'll need an intercooler.
Yeah now I know I don't want one of them turbo kits thanks for the info
I just bought this one for my 75 k20 I'd love if you could help me I just built a 363 small block for my truck and wanted a turbo I don't wanna blow up the brand new motor or turbo obi wan your my only hope