In the last 40 years, appliance sales have gone from local independent dealers (and Sears..) to a relative handful of big box mass merchandisers. Just as a few suppliers have the power to keep selling prices higher, WalMart, Lowe's, and Home Depot, by themselves, have the buying power to push wholesale prices consistently lower.. Knocking $5 off the price of each washer is significant when buying in massive volume, and they'll demand $8 off next year. This pressure on manufacturers results, year over year, in cheaper and thinner plastic replacing metal and rubber, screws and plastic welds replacing nuts and bolts, and flimsy electronics replacing knobs,switches, and mechanical timers. The shiny, glitzy exteriors of many of these washers in this video are hiding embarassingly cheap and cheezy innards.
These days, the big box guys, at least in my market, are just leasing the floor space and getting commissions. The appliance manufacturers have their own central warehouses and delivery teams. It doesn't matter who you buy from, the order is going to go to that warehouse and get delivered from there. This partially shuts out the independents as they are on the last udder and get served last on the most popular models. The big box stores have no inventory on hand. Makes a ton of sense from an inventory standpoint, and there isn't price competition between big box stores anymore. One has it on sale, they all will. The only pressure these days is coming from the different manufacturers.
I have an LG with the impeller, but it is the TurboDrum model, with a punch action. Purchased 8 years ago, to replace my dearest Speed Queen set, I have had no problems to report. My Speed Queen set cost too much to repair and even more to replace. I could buy three to four LGs of my model for the Speed Queens.
I've watched a lot of your videos, very informative. Our 28-year-old Kenmore '90 series finally gave out. We t with local shop that sells used and S/D. Picked up a refurbished 2023 Maytag 4.7cuft dual agitator washer paired with a 2019 Maytag commercial line dryer for $550 total.
We bought a whirlpool with the removable agitator a little over a year ago. It washed fine, but it was noisy(especially during spin cycle) and didn't have an end of cycle signal. After 4 service calls for various issues(luckily all covered under the 1 year warranty) we gave up after the 5th issue and replaced it with a speed queen. Obviously not available at the depot, but just a warning for the removable agitator models.
Basically everything is junk now that isn't a Speed Queen top loader. I work on all brands often, and it's the only washer that's less than 15-20 years old I would even allow in my house. I'll clean my clothes on a washboard by hand like it's the early 1900s before I'd buy anything with a suspension rod setup or an impeller instead of an agitator. Never buy a Samsung toploader, and never buy a Samsung appliance. They have garbage electronics, suspension rods, and quality. Pay the extra for the SQ now and thank yourself in 10 years when your washer still works. The LG front loaders are the next best option.
@@gargamel3393Speed Queen washing machines are going to be the least accessible, as far as money is concerned. I understand that Speed Queen washers and dryers are obviously built to last, so that factors into the extremely high upfront costs, but at the same time, what are people supposed to do that can't afford a Speed Queen washer and (rightfully) won't get a used washing machine? Like it or not, $1200+ dollars is a HUGE asking price for many Americans, and with that in mind, it would really help if Speed Queen offered lease to own options instead of just offering the usual upfront one time purchase that a LOT of people simply don't have the financial luxury and freedom to be able to afford.
I have the first model LG washer shown but without the agitator and I must say.. it does the job well and it super quiet. I’d definitely purchase it again if I had to do it all over again. Washes very well and seems to use a tad more water than the other non-agitator brands.
The LG 500.00 model has very good reviews. The fact being that it does a great job cleaning and that there isnt alot of confusing computer technology that is costly to repair. This is the washer that I will buy. SQ is great, but with a ridiculous price tag. I know, you get what you pay for.
Samsung appliances are junk . One of Neghbors bought a Samsung Refrigerator & while they were gone the compressor went out. I was watching the home while they was gone & I had no idea there refrigerator quilt working .
I have the Samsung 5.3 had it longer than 2 years and it's been working just fine! Had the Speed Queen TC5 as well great solid machine just a bit loud and rough on your clothes. Do your research and go with what you can afford at the time.
Ge top loaders are the way to go. My family got one in 2008 and we put it through hell. It was 3.5 cubic feet and we were washing king size comforters and everything in it. Multiple loads of clothes a day. It lasted 9 years until one day its agitator just came off. Replaced with another ge top load in 2017 4.3 cubic feet and it’s still going strong
I got a lg top load washer with a impeller for $700 original price $1300 at rc Willey you can actually customize it to put to a full tub of water first you hit the deep fill and then when it’s done pause the machine and hit it again and then a full tub of water
I notice the ones with an impellor don't get the clothes down into the water like the agitators do. And I'd say the best type of agitator is the screw type because it really pushes the clothes down into the water. The impellors kind of just let the clothes sit on top of the water and they don't really get moved around in it as much
Thanks for your reviews! I’ll be going to HD soon for new set of washer/dryer since Sears is no longer an option. Appreciate tip about dual action agitator, my current washer is front loading & I love it. Love that it keeps water usage at min. But in past I had top loading, dual.
I am not a fan of computers on washers and dryers becaues they will fail. I like the old-school washing machines like the Direct Dives and Speed Queen.
Bought the GE unit with the dual action agitator. Never could get enough water in the machine. Max water I could get was 17 gal. Sent it back. Buyer beware.
My SAMSUNG front loader washer was 14yrs old, Spider Bracket broke / dissolved LOL. I didn't have the room to work on it or the time. Bought a NEW GE front loader, works great, had good reviews. My SAMSUNG dryer still working great, while waiting for the GE to be delivered at the time, I pulled the dryer apart cleaned it. oiled a few pulleys, put a new belt in, good as new. Presidents day SALE is when I bought the GE.
@@MrSilence99 Could be the suspension to, have that check. Spider Bracket, they just go bad, the tub goes off balance, you will smell burning rubber once the tub separates from spider bracket. Good Luck!
@@richardhenry5961 The suspension has been shot for a while now. I got tired of tearing the machine apart to replace parts. It's going out the door once it fails again
@@MrSilence99 You can only do so much. GE or a commercial Speed Queen$$$ cost. Speed Queens are the best but come at a cost, but after you buy a few washer machines that only last 5yrs these days, the Speed Queen will keep going for 30yrs.
I bought a Maytag without agitator had to replace transmission after 11 months and then the transmission went out again then I just finally trashed it and got a GE the GE has done me well so far the Maytag only lasted 2 in a half years. Also bought a Maytag dryer that thing is awful I will never buy Maytag or whirlpool again there stuff is trash.
Lol just started watching your videos Saturday before buying a new unit that same day. Glad I got the one you chose as number 1 pick. Got 8 years out of my maytag with the plate only. Hope this ge last as long or longer. If not my next one no doubt speed queen.
They are no longer durable goods. I´d rather say they are disposable goods. At least you have many choices when it comes to washing machines. Greetings from Panama.
I would put whirlpool over the ge. I replace out so many more transmissions on those vs whirlpool especially under the first year warranty. But I know this is my opinion. I'm just sharing my thoughts.
The Whirlpool washer, model WTW5057LW with agitator has a really miserable flaw. Washing as directed- at a minimum, using warm water and detergent, and Normal setting, a scummy residue at the waterline is the result. My washer was delivered 2 months ago and used about 3 times a week with clothes, sheets or towels filling about 1/3 the tub. These items were not grimy. I scrub the residue off, only to have to do it again after washing. Whirlpool solicits reviews but the review button goes nowhere.
@@appliance-insider I bought it for my dad, and he appears happy with it. I wish I had more for you, but it appears like a very decent machine. Replacing the basic Kenmore 20232 for him which was a clone of the Amana. The control board went out. What are your thoughts on Kenmore (now that it’s more or less a dead brand)?
The whirlpool with the removable agitator is a complete gimmick. I don't see any change in wash action. It's a shame that whirlpool has gone downhill. Who knows if it will ever recover?
I would not want a washing machine with no agitator and one that clicks on that could break no way have the original as it should be and they wash a lot better I agree
I’ve loved Samsung since my childhood, and it’s really upsetting that their appliances are performing this way, I think I remember I had a 2008 Samsung Wall split Aircon, worked well for 10 years until it stopped cooling. But about washers, since they are the worst ones, are the old ones actually good? Hoping there is still some hope on Samsung.
Delivery experience from Home Depot was horrible. Unmarked truck came (probably provided by manufacture/supplier), delivery people were very inconsiderate, they didn't clean up after themselves, time delivered was way off from the window they provided, I saw them dent the appliance as they delivered it. Everyone I talked to says that PC Richards is much better. PC Richard actually has the name on the truck. That says alot. And for Furniture, Raymoure and Flanigan, delivery and quality of the furniture was actually very good as well.
Have you even seen how these new washer with agitators wash?? They are even more horrible than the ones with impeller plate. I would rather go with the front loader during this decade!
There is a difference between an agitator and an agi-peller. All I've seen in this video have been impellers and agi-pellers. You want a real agitator go to an independent store and buy a Speed Queen TC5 series.
Front loaders are a nightmare. Grow mold and take too long to wash. Had a Maytag one when I was married (German built) and external plastic tub cracked in three years
GE? Have you took the time to read the reviews and there are a lot of them on the GE washers?...Ya ...not very good at all unless you go to GE Profile line which sends the price way up.
Im sorry but whirlpool are bad, they don’t really wash like they used to, with or without agitator, plus, hate to break it to you, but they’re made here in Mexico, for the whole continent and some places in Asia, I agree that when they were American made, they were superior, like Maytag’s 😢
Buy Speed Queen washers and driers with simple mechanical dials. They’re built to last 25 years @ 8 loads / week. All this junk will be dead in a few years when their computer board inevitably fails.
The Home Depot has a no return policy on appliances. If you buy one there they do not take them back. If you buy one, and do not like it you are stuck with it. Been there done that, and got ripped off. Never again. All of my appliances are bought at my local appliance retailer.
In the last 40 years, appliance sales have gone from local independent dealers (and Sears..) to a relative handful of big box mass merchandisers. Just as a few suppliers have the power to keep selling prices higher, WalMart, Lowe's, and Home Depot, by themselves, have the buying power to push wholesale prices consistently lower.. Knocking $5 off the price of each washer is significant when buying in massive volume, and they'll demand $8 off next year. This pressure on manufacturers results, year over year, in cheaper and thinner plastic replacing metal and rubber, screws and plastic welds replacing nuts and bolts, and flimsy electronics replacing knobs,switches, and mechanical timers. The shiny, glitzy exteriors of many of these washers in this video are hiding embarassingly cheap and cheezy innards.
Unfortunately we are limited, Speed Queen or junk
These days, the big box guys, at least in my market, are just leasing the floor space and getting commissions. The appliance manufacturers have their own central warehouses and delivery teams. It doesn't matter who you buy from, the order is going to go to that warehouse and get delivered from there. This partially shuts out the independents as they are on the last udder and get served last on the most popular models. The big box stores have no inventory on hand. Makes a ton of sense from an inventory standpoint, and there isn't price competition between big box stores anymore. One has it on sale, they all will. The only pressure these days is coming from the different manufacturers.
@@appliance-insider LG frontloaders anyone 😅
I’d rather much prefer the older machines over the newer ones
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My parents just swapped out their old Samsung front loader for the Hotpoint top loader with agitator and they are pretty pleased with it.
I have an LG with the impeller, but it is the TurboDrum model, with a punch action. Purchased 8 years ago, to replace my dearest Speed Queen set, I have had no problems to report. My Speed Queen set cost too much to repair and even more to replace. I could buy three to four LGs of my model for the Speed Queens.
I've watched a lot of your videos, very informative. Our 28-year-old Kenmore '90 series finally gave out. We t with local shop that sells used and S/D. Picked up a refurbished 2023 Maytag 4.7cuft dual agitator washer paired with a 2019 Maytag commercial line dryer for $550 total.
We bought a whirlpool with the removable agitator a little over a year ago. It washed fine, but it was noisy(especially during spin cycle) and didn't have an end of cycle signal. After 4 service calls for various issues(luckily all covered under the 1 year warranty) we gave up after the 5th issue and replaced it with a speed queen. Obviously not available at the depot, but just a warning for the removable agitator models.
Thank you for sharing, I'm afraid Appliance gimmicks end up costing We the People money in service calls and replacements
Basically everything is junk now that isn't a Speed Queen top loader. I work on all brands often, and it's the only washer that's less than 15-20 years old I would even allow in my house. I'll clean my clothes on a washboard by hand like it's the early 1900s before I'd buy anything with a suspension rod setup or an impeller instead of an agitator. Never buy a Samsung toploader, and never buy a Samsung appliance. They have garbage electronics, suspension rods, and quality. Pay the extra for the SQ now and thank yourself in 10 years when your washer still works. The LG front loaders are the next best option.
@@gargamel3393Speed Queen washing machines are going to be the least accessible, as far as money is concerned. I understand that Speed Queen washers and dryers are obviously built to last, so that factors into the extremely high upfront costs, but at the same time, what are people supposed to do that can't afford a Speed Queen washer and (rightfully) won't get a used washing machine?
Like it or not, $1200+ dollars is a HUGE asking price for many Americans, and with that in mind, it would really help if Speed Queen offered lease to own options instead of just offering the usual upfront one time purchase that a LOT of people simply don't have the financial luxury and freedom to be able to afford.
Thanks for tge review..i almost bought one with removable agitator
I have the first model LG washer shown but without the agitator and I must say.. it does the job well and it super quiet. I’d definitely purchase it again if I had to do it all over again. Washes very well and seems to use a tad more water than the other non-agitator brands.
The LG 500.00 model has very good reviews. The fact being that it does a great job cleaning and that there isnt alot of confusing computer technology that is costly to repair. This is the washer that I will buy. SQ is great, but with a ridiculous price tag. I know, you get what you pay for.
I wish Whirlpool would go back to a retro style with their internal design. The newer models aren't as effective.
Check Speed Queen TC5 series.
I'm still using my mid 80's Maytag set. It's been so ultra reliable. It's only ever needed new belts.
Interesting as was your rationale. Glad you ended up with 3 picks.
Word of advice; we bought 3 Samsung appliances when we bought our home. They all been sheer nightmares since. NEVER buy a Samsung appliance …. Ever
Samsung appliances are junk . One of Neghbors bought a Samsung Refrigerator & while they were gone the compressor went out. I was watching the home while they was gone & I had no idea there refrigerator quilt working .
I have the Samsung 5.3 had it longer than 2 years and it's been working just fine! Had the Speed Queen TC5 as well great solid machine just a bit loud and rough on your clothes. Do your research and go with what you can afford at the time.
Ge top loaders are the way to go. My family got one in 2008 and we put it through hell. It was 3.5 cubic feet and we were washing king size comforters and everything in it. Multiple loads of clothes a day. It lasted 9 years until one day its agitator just came off. Replaced with another ge top load in 2017 4.3 cubic feet and it’s still going strong
You do realize they were MUCH better in 2008?
What GE model is that at 8:25?
@@CA1567-v8p that's their new 4.5 cubic feet top load with agitator
@@Warp3326 probably. Hell I'd love to have one from like 1995
@@ChristmasMorning1995 Yeah, especially those old Filter Flo's. Apparently they are very reliable and wash great.
I'm sticking with my Speed Queen TR7 washing machine.
I got a lg top load washer with a impeller for $700 original price $1300 at rc Willey you can actually customize it to put to a full tub of water first you hit the deep fill and then when it’s done pause the machine and hit it again and then a full tub of water
I notice the ones with an impellor don't get the clothes down into the water like the agitators do. And I'd say the best type of agitator is the screw type because it really pushes the clothes down into the water. The impellors kind of just let the clothes sit on top of the water and they don't really get moved around in it as much
I’ll stick with speed queen
Yep
1990 Whirlpool direct drive washing machine best one ever made. Just replace clutch, transmission, and motor. Still works.
Thanks for your reviews! I’ll be going to HD soon for new set of washer/dryer since Sears is no longer an option. Appreciate tip about dual action agitator, my current washer is front loading & I love it. Love that it keeps water usage at min. But in past I had top loading, dual.
I am not a fan of computers on washers and dryers becaues they will fail. I like the old-school washing machines like the Direct Dives and Speed Queen.
Want a machine that lasts 25 years. Get a Speed Queen. Made in the USA.
Exactly
Sort of a case of pay more now and save money and headaches later
No frontloaders? Thats weird
Bought the GE unit with the dual action agitator. Never could get enough water in the machine. Max water I could get was 17 gal. Sent it back. Buyer beware.
My SAMSUNG front loader washer was 14yrs old, Spider Bracket broke / dissolved LOL. I didn't have the room to work on it or the time. Bought a NEW GE front loader, works great, had good reviews. My SAMSUNG dryer still working great, while waiting for the GE to be delivered at the time, I pulled the dryer apart cleaned it. oiled a few pulleys, put a new belt in, good as new. Presidents day SALE is when I bought the GE.
My Samsung front loader is about 11 years old. Drum is starting to warp so I'm assuming my spider bracket is wearing out too
@@MrSilence99 Could be the suspension to, have that check. Spider Bracket, they just go bad, the tub goes off balance, you will smell burning rubber once the tub separates from spider bracket. Good Luck!
@@richardhenry5961 The suspension has been shot for a while now. I got tired of tearing the machine apart to replace parts. It's going out the door once it fails again
@@MrSilence99 You can only do so much. GE or a commercial Speed Queen$$$ cost. Speed Queens are the best but come at a cost, but after you buy a few washer machines that only last 5yrs these days, the Speed Queen will keep going for 30yrs.
Thank you so much! You saved me a headache and hours of research.
I bought a Maytag without agitator had to replace transmission after 11 months and then the transmission went out again then I just finally trashed it and got a GE the GE has done me well so far the Maytag only lasted 2 in a half years. Also bought a Maytag dryer that thing is awful I will never buy Maytag or whirlpool again there stuff is trash.
Lol just started watching your videos Saturday before buying a new unit that same day.
Glad I got the one you chose as number 1 pick.
Got 8 years out of my maytag with the plate only.
Hope this ge last as long or longer. If not my next one no doubt speed queen.
Awesome this unit looks very promising long-term
They are no longer durable goods. I´d rather say they are disposable goods. At least you have many choices when it comes to washing machines. Greetings from Panama.
5:04 That reminds of a Samsung top loader at my local appliance store in Australia.
I’m planning to buy a refurbished 90 series Kenmore set because nothing is made like it used to be
I would put whirlpool over the ge. I replace out so many more transmissions on those vs whirlpool especially under the first year warranty. But I know this is my opinion. I'm just sharing my thoughts.
I won't even look at the ones without an agitator and deep fill/water fill options.
The Whirlpool washer, model WTW5057LW with agitator has a really miserable flaw. Washing as directed- at a minimum, using warm water and detergent, and Normal setting, a scummy residue at the waterline is the result. My washer was delivered 2 months ago and used about 3 times a week with clothes, sheets or towels filling about 1/3 the tub. These items were not grimy. I scrub the residue off, only to have to do it again after washing. Whirlpool solicits reviews but the review button goes nowhere.
Do not get that whirlpool removable agitator shit. The control board shit the bed a year after I bought it.
7:16 we picked this one up from Lowe’s for $508 on Memorial Day sale.
Thank you for sharing, tell me more how has the performance been?
@@appliance-insider I bought it for my dad, and he appears happy with it. I wish I had more for you, but it appears like a very decent machine. Replacing the basic Kenmore 20232 for him which was a clone of the Amana. The control board went out. What are your thoughts on Kenmore (now that it’s more or less a dead brand)?
@@alfredvalrie5541what model # was the machine?
The whirlpool with the removable agitator is a complete gimmick. I don't see any change in wash action. It's a shame that whirlpool has gone downhill.
Who knows if it will ever recover?
I would not want a washing machine with no agitator and one that clicks on that could break no way have the original as it should be and they wash a lot better I agree
My 15 year old Kenmore elite is giving up and I am not really sure if these new appliances can really last that long.
I'm sticking with my Whirlpool Duet Steam washer and dryer from 2008 :)
Thank you for real help!
I try to be thorough I want to help people buy good products instead of getting stuck with expensive junk
I’ve loved Samsung since my childhood, and it’s really upsetting that their appliances are performing this way, I think I remember I had a 2008 Samsung Wall split Aircon, worked well for 10 years until it stopped cooling. But about washers, since they are the worst ones, are the old ones actually good? Hoping there is still some hope on Samsung.
What model # is that GE at 8:25?
What do you think of the washer that can dry your clothes? They sell them at Lowe’s.
I don't like to have glass on top of the washer. Can be breakable.
My wife and I bought a front load ge washer with the vent feature. Should we return it?
Delivery experience from Home Depot was horrible. Unmarked truck came (probably provided by manufacture/supplier), delivery people were very inconsiderate, they didn't clean up after themselves, time delivered was way off from the window they provided, I saw them dent the appliance as they delivered it. Everyone I talked to says that PC Richards is much better. PC Richard actually has the name on the truck. That says alot. And for Furniture, Raymoure and Flanigan, delivery and quality of the furniture was actually very good as well.
Thank you for this video! Very helpful
I hope it helps save money and make a good decision
Appliance insider dropped a new video😱😱😱😱😱
Great info!
Have you even seen how these new washer with agitators wash?? They are even more horrible than the ones with impeller plate. I would rather go with the front loader during this decade!
I just got the GE profile 5.0 Diamond color any advice?
The very last machine you recommended you didn’t give any information like the model number do you know the model number?
There is a difference between an agitator and an agi-peller. All I've seen in this video have been impellers and agi-pellers.
You want a real agitator go to an independent store and buy a Speed Queen TC5 series.
I've had LG. I've had Samsung, I've had GE. I've had Maytag. I've had Maytag.
I have Speed Queen.
Kenmore !!!
TYVM
10:34 Technician in a box? There's a novelty!
You completely skipped the front loaders. I don’t think there is a single top loader I would buy for myself.
Yes I personally would not own a front loader even if the government mandates it
Front loaders are a nightmare. Grow mold and take too long to wash. Had a Maytag one when I was married (German built) and external plastic tub cracked in three years
@@pauli6043LG owns the market - and Speed Queens get mold too- it’s all about how to maintain them
@appliance-insider may I ask why?
GE? Have you took the time to read the reviews and there are a lot of them on the GE washers?...Ya ...not very good at all unless you go to GE Profile line which sends the price way up.
What about front loaders
Speed Queen
God bless you , and thanks again Robert Downey Jr.
Im sorry but whirlpool are bad, they don’t really wash like they used to, with or without agitator, plus, hate to break it to you, but they’re made here in Mexico, for the whole continent and some places in Asia, I agree that when they were American made, they were superior, like Maytag’s 😢
I have a whirlpool… the spin cycle is done. The gear system is plastic.. designed to fail. Very disappointing
Buy Speed Queen washers and driers with simple mechanical dials. They’re built to last 25 years @ 8 loads / week. All this junk will be dead in a few years when their computer board inevitably fails.
If it's not a speed queen it's junk
Maytag
I hate damn home depot it's a shit store I never shop there or that shit called Lowes to I hate both of them
The Home Depot has a no return policy on appliances. If you buy one there they do not take them back. If you buy one, and do not like it you are stuck with it. Been there done that, and got ripped off. Never again. All of my appliances are bought at my local appliance retailer.
If you buy any LG product you are uninformed.