30 Essential Ideas you should know about ADHD, 5B ADHD is a disorder of self regulation

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    Stop teaching so many skills. More skills will not fix the problem.
    Instead organize the environment and your behavior so your disability is less debilitating.
    ADHD is a disorder of self regulation
    ADHD people have no problem interacting with the environment if the consequences are NOW and immediate. Thus create external stimuli and forces to replace what should be internal motivation and stimuli.
    You can never out train ADHD, no amount of training will change ADHD. So stop trying to fix ADHD by doing one more thing.
    Instead try to manage ADHD, to prevent secondary harms like failure. You do this by making it easier for the ADHD person to function by making them interacting with external factors and not internal ones.
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  • @Manchessollte421
    @Manchessollte421 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    "I don't mean to belittle it I'm just telling you it won't do any good" this man is a hero. legend.

  • @katylloyd1616
    @katylloyd1616 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I am 36 and work freelance, my boss never gives me deadlines it is very hard to do enough work. Recently I started painting one fingernail as a reward for working 9-5. Looking at my hands I can see how successful I have been lately. It feels so silly to use a 'gold star' system as an adult but after being a chronic under-earner for years right now I'm willing to try anything to become more responsible and less stressed! So far it's working well... Wish me luck

  • @themaggattack
    @themaggattack 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    "Spend less time on skills and more time changing the point of performance."
    I'm just going to let that concept sink in and revolutionize my life.

    • @Traisas
      @Traisas 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am watching this video every day since I discovered it for exactly that line 👍

    • @Plasmafox
      @Plasmafox 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In other words... HELP THE CHILD instead of just punishing them when you don't get the outcome you want

  • @SkellyHertz
    @SkellyHertz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    My problem is that my parents were very on top of immediate accountability, but without any compassion or understanding of my condition. This has led me to avoid accountability for fear of anxiety attacks and depression, and finding a middle ground or who to provide this sort of thing in a healthy manner, or how to provide it for myself, is still a work in progress.

  • @johnnawatson486
    @johnnawatson486 2 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    I'm watching this as an adult with adhd that has been largely untreated for my whole life. At 40 yrs old I finally came to see that my life was unmanageable and out of control. So, here I am now at 41 after a year on adderall and I see results...just not enough to undo all those untreated years. And as happy I am that this lecture popped up on my feed, I am equally sad and disheartened. All of this info means the world to me and only me. There is nobody who would build the scaffolding around me, hold me accountable, keep me on track, or help me help myself. I don't even have any people to show this to to explain what is going on in my head. My mom fought me every day about needing meds and how much better I was when I took them, and I felt attacked and angry because I didn't understand all this. She was never my support system rather I felt like I was broken and terrible if I didn't do what SHE said would make me better. I wish we had seen this back then. I wish I had a support system to help guide me through these changes that I know I must make before my life just rolls back off the path again- as it always does. I don't know what to do. Who can I go to when there is no caregiver in my life anymore?? I feel like there is no escape from this. Time does not mean anything to me these days- I don't organize, I don't do calendars or alarms, and never have been able to keep appts or finish homework. I was raised to believe I was defective and so I have lived a life of incomplete, impulsive defectiveness. How can we get help with managing adhd at 41 years old?? Please tell me there is something better to look forward to than more of the same. I just don't know where to start.

    • @simonequattlebaum898
      @simonequattlebaum898 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      I feel you totally. You have to have patience with yourself, because it will not happen overnight. I decided I was going to have to be my own caretaker 3 1/2 years ago and do all of the things that I wished somebody would have done for me. Since you now know this is a disorder there is no reason to beat yourself up, plus it's unproductive. The adderall alone will not help without serious systems and organization. It will be the hardest thing you've ever done in your life, but you can get on track. I was able to do some things I never thought possible and my life is unrecognizable now compared to what it was before actively managing my ADHD. I fell off the wagon and continue to fall off sometimes, just not as severely as before. That in turn gives you confidence to keep going. The most important thing is to stay optimistic and to be VERY supportive of yourself. You CAN do it!

    • @johnnawatson486
      @johnnawatson486 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@simonequattlebaum898 thank you so so much for the reply. It means the world to me that someone else has been where I am and moved beyond that. Thank you for the advice and tips and for the kind words. I have begun to work on follow thru which has always been a thing that just didn't happen. I get bored and forget that baby steps gets stuff done...so I work in pieces of time like 10 on and 3 off (in minutes) and it works thank god almighty its working! Keep in touch here from time to time, friend. Wish me luck and luck to you as well!

    • @erinhackett1524
      @erinhackett1524 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      We should talk. I'm 40 and struggle myself. I also always think about the importance of scaffolding. Reading these comments we all sound the same are in so much pain and frustration hopelessness because we deal with hidden challenges every day that can be debilitating and nobody gets it! There need to be a good support group. My family never understood and just shamed me

    • @timothywestern6488
      @timothywestern6488 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I am in the same boat here. I was taken off meds in 6th Grade, to try it, maybe I've out grown it. Never put back on, but I have long expressed that mentally not logically but emotionally in particular, I have felt years behind my peers. Then I got to college, got a little knowledge, and thought oh I'd figured this stuff out, I was the top boy in my high school, look at all the people who've been misdiagnosed, I self identified this must have been me also. Except I was never really told what this condition does to you. If I had known then, I'd have pleaded for those meds, and I probably could have graduated with a high GPA from college, instead of a lower B average. Only now, 2 years after my wife's death, and five years since her illness put me in perpetual hurry up and put out the latest disability emergency fire, I find I have no structure at home, and am floundering. Work is fine, cause it has structures, but outside of it, yeah... I relate to your words so much Johnna. I feel the same discouragement, the feeling of hopelessness, and even better, I got diagnosed as depressed for a year, the meds did nothing but prevent me from facing those emotions, and it may have made what functioning I did have, related to ADHD worse. I'm seeking help locally now, and hopeful that something will give me hope again.

    • @Wizardxl3
      @Wizardxl3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm in the same boat, figured it out for myself when I was 30 and have been struggling to get on track and learn how to manage it so I can do the things in life that I want to do.

  • @rfeyman3682
    @rfeyman3682 6 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    I agree with almost everything he says but I simply cannot function well while being watched by others.

    • @IsleNaK
      @IsleNaK 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      performance anxiety sucks..... then again.... is there a chance you develop performance anxiety due to ADHD.....?

    • @owenreese1754
      @owenreese1754 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Same thing here

    • @birdysayhi
      @birdysayhi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@IsleNaK yes definitely. Like generally what he is saying that ADHD disregulates you perfomative actions. Which also correlates to my all my primary school reports, "is smart but can't deliver".
      That with the general incentive to get a kid to do the work and stuff, means that a teacher/parent will often stare over your shoulder to see what you are doing. Also often making remarks (and sometimes other kids will follow the teachers lead, especially round the age of 8 to 10. That with the general static that an adhd child at the age of 12, would have had about 20000 more negative remarks/critism (idk if it accurate) . Not only from teachers, but from every person that surrounds them. This obviously can get internalised and form anxiety. Also research shows that sense of self-worth among ADHD-ers (adults and children) is generally much lower than their peers.

    • @BadCoverMan
      @BadCoverMan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Awareness is a fickle mistress.

    • @primemachine146
      @primemachine146 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I’m the exact same, that’s why I hate training at gyms and why I like training at home by myself with music, I try everything possible to block out everything from the outside world

  • @alexsmith965
    @alexsmith965 4 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    This is really enlightening. When I was in cadets or a strict high school, I did pretty well, but college and home life was so laid back or at least lacked short term consequences, so I got nothing done.

    • @themaggattack
      @themaggattack 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Probably why I do better in a class than just taking a tutorial on my own. I need structure and accountability.

    • @rabbitwho
      @rabbitwho 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      how are you now? are you super anxious? I think the evidence shows rewards work much better than consequences
      imho consequences end up with people just using anxiety to motivate themselves to do absolutely everything, from getting up to brushing their teeth, leading to constant exhaustion

    • @abraxas1262
      @abraxas1262 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@rabbitwho its not about consequences but about structure. like, if everyone is forced to get up at 6am, you have no choice, and that means you'll be super tired if you don't fix your sleep schedule and it ends up fixed naturally. its about...someone externally pressuring you to do something. like how when you have a deadline for a project in a month you won't start it until it's too late BUT if you had assignments for each part of the project at different times instead of the entire thing at one deadline in a month, it might be a lot easier to get started and work on it. but i agree that consequences themselves aren't helpful, especially if it's punishing someone for something they can't control easily, but that wasn't what the original commenter meant.

    • @hikikomori6956
      @hikikomori6956 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This actually kind of explained why I performed better at work with external accountability from bosses, vs me in free time where my boss is netflix, youtube and video games.

  • @gypsypath1
    @gypsypath1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Have they internalized the ramp? lol Love it!

  • @gplustree
    @gplustree 5 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    This particular one is so absolutely dead center for me, it's unreal. I've been trying to alter my environment for years, instinctively at first and then in a semi-organized manner, knowing how profoundly I'm dependent on the environment to succeed. (Clearly medication is not handling it.)

    • @jenniferbates2811
      @jenniferbates2811 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Me too! I'm 42

    • @MissPoplarLeaf
      @MissPoplarLeaf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Same here! I have to build external systems within systems, reminder after reminder to lead myself by the nose to complete things. Otherwise I don't do them until too late.

    • @Venomonomonom
      @Venomonomonom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I change my room every 3 weeks

    • @themaggattack
      @themaggattack 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Venomonomonom I rearrange my house at least once a year. I keep trying to improve functionality within my environment.
      I think about it a lot. I even measured all the walls and every piece of furniture in my house and made a little 2-D scaled diagram of the living space and the furniture. Occasionally I'll just sit and rearrange the furniture on my little diagram. It saves me from having to actually rearrange the furniture until I've really thought about how it would function, first. I'll just sit, rearranging my little diagram and ponder.
      I'm just really glad that my family doesn't seem too bothered by me occasionally actually re-arranging the house. You don't know for sure it will work until you've tried it. But the diagram helps me make really good educated guesses.
      I'm just on an ever present quest for optimized organization.
      Like maybe a shelf here for said item would help me to remember to do this thing in this room.
      Oh I need a hook here to hang my headphones. I also need a hook there to hang my headphones. Those are the only two places I use my headphones, so theoretically, if I need my headphones they should always be found on one of those two hooks. I'll test this theory. Let's hope it solves that one issue.
      Maybe if I move my daughter's art bins closer to her desk, she won't leave her art supplies all out on the kitchen table all the time.
      Maybe if the couch is facing this way, I'll do more yoga.
      Etc.
      I'm also trying to clear clutter, little by little.
      If my family doesn't put something away or puts it away in the wrong place, I get totally thrown off. Like if they put the milk on the "wrong" side of the fridge behind the bread, or if they put a pot away in the wrong cupboard, I'm totally lost. Things have to be where I expect them to be, or I just can't function.
      I use to think it might be OCD, and maybe so, but now I see that it must stem from the object permanence issues of ADHD.

    • @Ilportavoce
      @Ilportavoce 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@themaggattack dude wow that's literally me to a t. This summer since I was home alone I rearranged the whole kitchen since my mom is mega disorganized. I'm costantly trying to have as little stuff as possible around, to be as organized as possible. Literally a remote on my desk instead of under it throws off my whole balance. I know there are people like me out there but fuck reading these comments makes me feel really good .

  • @vnep5743
    @vnep5743 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I was one of those kids who struggled to stay awake in class, especially in high school. Unless it was something that I was interested in (history, gov) a science class - even better if it was a lab class, or in the case of one algebra teacher who unknowingly cranked my interest up to 11 by adding a competitive element to the work. Then there was the homework. At some point I began to notice a pattern. That it was often easier to stay up if I didn't have any to do. There would be times that I would decide that ima gonna get this done! And quickly find myself tired. Sudden and often almost overwhelming drowsiness through my adult life had me wondering whether i was narcoleptic.
    Learning what adhd is so many years later and seeing how much it described me actually excited me. After looking into other conditions including early onset dementia and crippling procrastination I finally found the answer.
    Contrary to popular belief, the medication prescribed for this condition is not a magic pill. It won't fix the problem and I've found that I still have to regularly work to keep up new habits. But it helps. To paraphrase my doctor, it makes it possible to start to overcome these issues.

  • @jamespollock11
    @jamespollock11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Where has this dude BEEN?!

  • @lauraubrey7830
    @lauraubrey7830 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Maybe if people got diagnosed earlier it would save people the heartache of going to drugs and alcohol or food and treatment centers

  • @mchl252
    @mchl252 6 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    I suffer from untreated ADD and lack of immediate consequences in childhood, no discipline, and no accountability has totally messed me up...

    • @50colt30Productions
      @50colt30Productions 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Have you made any progress since this comment?

    • @BipolarMoth
      @BipolarMoth 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I feel your pain Mardar. What County are you from? Its your Counties job to educate the public and doctors and treatment programs and to get you proper treatment. If the doctors dont know how to treat you then they obviously aren't treating anyone in your county with ADHD and thats a problem. Start with your local state rep and then go up the chain of command. Congress and then maybe attorney general and then maybe dept of state or governor and then contact federal agencies and then the President. Sounds corny but the only way people will learn is if we all come together and make it aware to the world that we are untreated or not properly treated.

    • @dkmillar33
      @dkmillar33 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Mine too. However, what he is saying that you will ALWAYS need immediate consequences. So regardless of what your mom did or didn’t do, we need immediate consequences TODAY, TOMORROW, and forever I’m afraid. Forgive your mom and dad, teachers, coaches, aunts and uncles and move forward from this moment.

    • @shakeelahmed2994
      @shakeelahmed2994 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mardar, how do you managing it?

    • @stonervisiontv1388
      @stonervisiontv1388 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Me too

  • @polarpalmwv4427
    @polarpalmwv4427 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    This is so interesting. I am studying piano tuning and it was self-study with the option for Zoom lessons. Eventually I had to ask my teacher for regularly scheduled lessons because it was the only way I was going to be able to keep myself on track and accomplish anything. I have found that without external accountability (untreated ADHD so far - to be treated soon), I lack motivation and drive to get much done. I still get stuff done - just a lot less.

    • @arjunratnadev
      @arjunratnadev ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm so sick that I found out that I almost match these symptoms, I don't have any Executive functional system in my brain, my mind's play ground for simulating multiple solutions or pathways for any given problems is almost non existence or it takes a frustrating amount of effort and I don't think I have an internal guiding voice that dictates the consequences to put me back on track. I always wondered that even though having so much hyperactivity I still couldn't accomplish much in my life now I know and I wish I knew sooner 😒

  • @teenie772003
    @teenie772003 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    so funny my daughter was in a rage this morning after i was watching this i started the chart. she screaming out of her room and said this guy is stupid....the work got done for the first time so there must be something to this .

  • @rguardia1
    @rguardia1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dr Barkley, my most sincere thank you, you opened our eyes and heart.

  • @kekero540
    @kekero540 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Every day I feel like there is no winning with adhd. You will never have stability in any aspect of your life. Because everyone will always abandon you. They don’t want to be your “ramp” they have things to do places to be. You will never have the stability of relationships, you won’t have a stable career. You will, without support, end up on the side of the road homeless, friendless, and loveless. Dying of a drug overdose.

  • @Plasmafox
    @Plasmafox 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Behavior modification taught me a lot of things: that authority figures are insane and capricious, that "consequences" are arbitrary and factitious, and that there is something fundamentally unacceptable about me as a person.

  • @susanryan7050
    @susanryan7050 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for all your excellenlt lectures!you are an amazing speaker. Your information is agreat help to me Alot of things are starting to make sense. I am starting to really be able to keep a better watch on myself. And thanks to you I know what to look for. And you've given me some good strategies. We are not stupid we just need a little help. I am forever grateful. Peace and love ,susan

  • @lauriejean9306
    @lauriejean9306 7 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    but they may have missed some skills because of being inattentive when they were younger... but he's right about point of performance

    • @Plasmafox
      @Plasmafox 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I missed a lot of skills because I was picked off and isolated in special ed from an early age, denied any opportunity to interact in age appropriate settings with my peers. It was simply declared that I couldn't do that. Whatever delays my brain had, it was the school system that "retarded" me.

  • @Tamarahope77
    @Tamarahope77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    If teachers have to be stakeholders, we need more guidance about how to get them on board. I feel like I'm wasting my time trying to educate the teachers because they don't believe in ADHD as a brain-based disorder, and my kid is wasting his school years.

    • @DryRoastedLemon
      @DryRoastedLemon ปีที่แล้ว

      Autistic and possible ADHD teacher here. It is indeed so, so very frustrating to hear colleagues talk about these students not knowing what they're dealing with. At the school I work there are a lot of students on the spectrum, and I find that what at the surface looks like unwanted behavior is just something in my teaching, the assigment and/or the environment that's not helping them. And what their behavior really is is a call for help. As I get to know more and more students each year I'm learning so much about them, but also about myself.

    • @Plasmafox
      @Plasmafox 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Way too many teachers are allowed to enter the field who are seemingly only in it for the feeling of being in charge, and take disobedience- or disability- as a *personal insult* to be retaliated for.

    • @Tamarahope77
      @Tamarahope77 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Plasmafox That's exactly how it felt like with my child's experience. He has since stopped school. Fortunately, it seems to have been for the better.

  • @SamuelProwant
    @SamuelProwant ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Adult adhd’er here. Ive been through the consequences and it really twisted my perceptions.

  • @cad0420alice
    @cad0420alice 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Not sure if it really helps to use tools to let the ADHD children hold accountable. This sounds very Asian school style: using score ranking to motivate students to get a higher achievement. It did helped me to finish high school, but I still have the same problem after high school and after work. I have the idea of consequences so I get depressed but I still won’t do things because I knew there will be a consequence. It only makes me feel depressed and shit about myself.

  • @waiki8223
    @waiki8223 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant!

  • @danielabulla1626
    @danielabulla1626 ปีที่แล้ว

    THANKS THIS! I have a tons of skill but I cannot use it, my two sons have the same problem. The only things that work is changing the environment, and changing the way we do things we need to do.

  • @simplyme5324
    @simplyme5324 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well I would argue that positive incentives work better than punishment. I am an adult with ADHD who uses self punishment way too often. Using my natural mood balances works way better for me and my perfectionism.

  • @mynameismaggierose
    @mynameismaggierose ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the amount of schools, camps, groups i had to deal with because something was " wrong" with me.

  • @vishvajeetsinh_solanki
    @vishvajeetsinh_solanki 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    so what help for adults?

    • @isabelleg9118
      @isabelleg9118 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Routines, timers, alarms, learning to ask other people for ex: “when do I need to start getting ready to get to my appointment at 11?”, Bullet Journal, Secret Slob channel on You Tube, checklists and months of repetition until it goes in.

  • @owenreese1754
    @owenreese1754 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    @mardar you just described my life story

  • @BadCoverMan
    @BadCoverMan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey I’m from the Upper Peninsula in Michigan. I did not, however, attend this camp haha, and good thing apparently.

  • @goodday5745
    @goodday5745 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Diabetics is always treated by injecting insulin, but recently people find out that low carb food and keto helps diabetics. While ADHD and ritalin can be used in the same statement, one must aware that our environment is not changeable like diet. Yah ADHD symptoms can vanished by not talking with people, not having things to be done, not having any responsibilities, no need of driving, and where people expect you to be self-disciplined and perform self-care. Somehow makes drugs sadly seemed to be the only way. Although that environment is not totally changeable, we must still alter it to suit our needs, having less sweet stuff in diabetics may not affect the need of injecting insulin, but it definitely helps with the disease. Environment changing helps ADHD into an extent, but meds is needed like injecting insulin.

  • @annetteka
    @annetteka 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "two ladies" instead of 'delays', Adhd Videos - what subtitle/subscriber tool do you use?

  • @tomwest5107
    @tomwest5107 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i saw a stat that said ADHDers are 19.4x more likely to be diagnosed with BPD than the general population. and considering just how similar the two conditions are it makes me wonder if BPD is just ADHD + comorbidities (ptsd/depression/anxiety) etc. i know clinicians have to follow the dsm but the dsm in 30 years might not look anything like it does today.

  • @pinetrapple1719
    @pinetrapple1719 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I don't fully understand what he means by consequences, like, punishments? or just for something to happen?

    • @themaggattack
      @themaggattack 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Just for something to happen. Like if they don't do their chore, they don't get their reward that was written on the reward chart.

    • @SeebsL
      @SeebsL ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah when he says consequences it sounds like punishments. Negative reinforcement is not a sound training method. Positive reinforcement may be better for some people but I would never have liked that, either. The "consequence" that worked for me was the person nearby taking interest in what I was doing to keep me on task with something creative. The drudge work in school was punishment in of itself, though. There was nothing to motivate that more than a few minutes, even if you offered me all the candy in the world.

    • @alexwelts2553
      @alexwelts2553 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Rather than getting on a structured cruise ship, a creator being sailing their own ship with an edge for cutting through ice.

  • @karlbarker2912
    @karlbarker2912 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This man is my God!

    • @jpienaar6446
      @jpienaar6446 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jesus is God 💜💜💜

  • @barbarapouw-vandevelde3080
    @barbarapouw-vandevelde3080 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I now understand why I can cook, but I can't do admin work from home. If I don't cook, I get hungry. If I don't do the admin work, eventually I get fired. The 'eventually' is the problem. Working from home has cost me 3 jobs now. At 50 years old, I am waiting for official diagnosis so that I can try meds.

  • @altyrrell3088
    @altyrrell3088 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Point of performance" - Yes. Yes. Yes.

  • @tamarahall957
    @tamarahall957 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why is the priority to make adhd behave. Isn't this how it's always been done? Whether by drugging us to a stupor or now you teach others to force behavior modifications via outside perceptions.
    I love your information about me, but why tell everyone else how to manipulate me. It's a nightmare.
    What is the problem with adhd behavior? What is the exact issue that it causes to the public?

  • @vuyothesun
    @vuyothesun ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does anyone want to start a support group?

  • @ashlynpage4688
    @ashlynpage4688 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    But Russell Barkley, how will they do in the adult world if they are reliant on the prosthesis token sysytem. If we have made them a consistent immediate token system, how will they adapt without one as an adult.

    • @couldbe8348
      @couldbe8348 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      No different than if they did not have the prosthesis. Either way, they're STILL in a wheelchair. It's neurological.

    • @kristiknight7586
      @kristiknight7586 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      They will learn to develop their own system of rewards and consequences as they mature. But without opportunities to succeed as children, without adults providing the conditions in which they can succeed *and* clearly understand their failures, they're much more likely to grow up feeling anxious, depressed, helpless, and not understand what conditions they need to succeed, and thus be incapable of creating and advocating for those conditions.

    • @gplustree
      @gplustree 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I've been trying to build my own prosthetic environment for years, started before I ever found any of this stuff with as much as I'd managed to realize about myself on my own. But I'm late 30s and definitely need to call in the troops, CBT, whatever, in part to develop a system that will actually work for the long haul. So the short answer is, they're not gonna adapt without one as an adult. It doesn't work.

    • @jacob2431992
      @jacob2431992 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gplustree How have you been getting along, gplustree? I'm in the same boat. 😭

    • @Kiirkas
      @Kiirkas ปีที่แล้ว

      You teach them, or assist them, in developing their own system. The need doesn't go away, nor should the access. Adults might just have different consequences than gold stars.

  • @GreatMan_from_East
    @GreatMan_from_East 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Treat ADHD like Diabetes

  • @disaster4550
    @disaster4550 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wouldnt most ADHD children alread held accountable by parents? To think the solution is to be put in situations with more consequence is kinda depressing, wouldn't that just make you anxious at all times?

  • @nleem3361
    @nleem3361 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why don't they show the slides on these videos? It would also be helpful if the videos were numbered, so we know where we leave off. This segment was kinda weird starting without watching the segment right before.

  • @GreatMan_from_East
    @GreatMan_from_East 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Show them consequences
    Create artificial consequences if possible
    More Accountability

  • @abujad4226
    @abujad4226 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:40

  • @shonnyboyy5284
    @shonnyboyy5284 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Help yo self bottom g

  • @davidsuzukiispolpot
    @davidsuzukiispolpot 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The diabetes comments are only correct when applied to diabetes type 1

  • @abedetesfa5158
    @abedetesfa5158 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This gentleman is very intelligent and knowledgeable of his field, and I've found much of this lecture quite informative and useful; however, his stance on the usefulness of lifestyle interventions seems skewed. For example, the speaker says that we should think of ADHD like diabetes, stating that "we don't treat diabetes to get rid of it; we treat it (in order to mitigate the secondary consequences". But, in many cases, we can get rid of it. Research has shown that type 2 diabetes is almost exclusively a lifestyle disease and some research indicates that even in the case of type 1 diabetes, the need for insulin can be decreased through lifestyle interventions (i.e.- what, when, how much one eats, exercise, etc.). Similarly, ADHD symptoms, at more than a trivial level, can often be mitigated by similar lifestyle interventions. In my own personal experience, my symptoms greatly improved by dietary changes, decrease in media consumption, in addition to some other behavioral changes. And I've seen similar improvement in clients.
    Lastly, as an FYI, Demetri Crystakis and others have done extensive research indicating that media consumption in early years is positively correlated to attention problems later.

  • @jeffrockwell1555
    @jeffrockwell1555 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hard to hear for those type 1 diabetic vegan ADHD folks like myself lol

  • @gilmag1348
    @gilmag1348 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That back ground sound is ugh!!

  • @WeirdAlSuperFan
    @WeirdAlSuperFan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    this guy said diabetus lol

  • @blairdavis
    @blairdavis 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've been on this guy's side until he threw out the r slur mid speech Jesus

  • @100musicplaylists3
    @100musicplaylists3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This guy is soooooooo wrong about adhd and social skills. I've seen proof of people with adhd who have massively improved their social interaction skills from learning social skills online. If interaction in groups is difficult for adhd kids they can learn social skills for free on youtube which they can practice on their peers at their leisure. Saying improving social skills for adhd kids is not beneficial is as idiotic and illogical as saying fat people will not benefit from dieting or that educating yourself can be dangerous.

    • @Plasmafox
      @Plasmafox 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe he's thinking of some highly normal, mainstream kid. The part he's missing is the way that diagnosed kids are isolated from their peers. Once you get pulled into special ed or something you lose your opportunities to develop normally which multiplies the effect of the neurological condition. We throw disabled kids away

  • @sahinemrah5340
    @sahinemrah5340 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If this is a kind disability then making jokes about it quite lame

  • @alanberkeley7282
    @alanberkeley7282 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I have watched some of Barkley's lectures. Here are my impressions:
    1. Barkley is clearly threatened by newer perspectives on ADHD based in evolutionary psychology that may, in fact, help explain why this difference, which appears to have a strong genetic basis, continues to exist in such large numbers in the population. He is disparaging and rather arrogant in his treatment of others' ideas on the subject in person, making jokes at their expense which I was appalled that other psychologist appeared to find humorous.
    2. In person, he also makes jokes at the expense of children with so called ADHD. He does not appear to have empathy for those with this difference; his empathy appears limited to those who must "deal" with this difference in others, be it parents, teachers, employers, etc. Again, I was appalled at his crass attempts at humor targeted at individuals with ADHD during the seminar I attended. It was akin to making "fat jokes" at a medical seminar on obesity, although Barkley seemed oblivious to the lack of propriety of such jokes, and furthermore, did not appear to believe that anyone in the educated audience he was addressing could suffer from ADHD.
    3. He is so married to his own theoretical views, which have made him a "renowned expert" in the area of ADHD that many of his attacks on other theoretical viewpoints are clearly defensive in nature and aimed to protect his career and status in the field. His disdain for Tom Hartmann was quite apparent at the seminar, for example, although there is now some evidence that Hartmann's idea (it's not quite a theory yet) that individuals with ADHD were adaptive in past cultural environments is quite possible and supported by evidence concerning other conditions that were once protective in different physical environments (i.e., sickle cell anemia and its protection against malaria).

    • @zynski3451
      @zynski3451 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Get f*cked I have ADHD and I think this guy is hilarious. There's a whole subreddit of ADHD'rs who love this guy and we've all benefited from his advice. The only reason I even know about him is from other ADHD people recommending him.

    • @alanberkeley7282
      @alanberkeley7282 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zynski3451 th-cam.com/video/caUtlg0zJhg/w-d-xo.html

    • @alanberkeley7282
      @alanberkeley7282 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zynski3451 Why the USA has such a high rate of "ADHD" diagnosis.
      1.) Could be the chemical environment. The FDA Allows more food dyes and other toxic chemicals into the foods/plastics/etc because big business lobbyists have successfully convinced politicians there is not sufficient evidence of concerning levels of toxicity (unlike Europe and other countries which have much stricter thresholds that are enforced ).
      2.) More tools and assessments have been developed to diagnose someone with ADHD
      3.) America's poor work-family life balance which which sends parents back to work after 3 months
      4.) Young children being entertained by TV or whatever other technology can keep a young child occupied
      5) Big Pharma buying Psychiatrists off.
      6) The DSM reducing the amount of symptoms why somebody could be diagnosed.
      7) People like Ned Hallowell diagnosing people in six questions on live TV.
      8) Making it appear like normal behavior.
      The cure? Stop expecting kids to sit six hours a day, sit quietly, be quiet, be passive, concentrate on boring paperwork, and not daydream. Stop expecting them to be calm, orderly, and quiet.
      Drop those wrong expectations, and ADHD is cured.

    • @alanberkeley7282
      @alanberkeley7282 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zynski3451 I announce to the world that I have found a cure for ADHD and ODD. Amazing that from a retired Engineer isn't it? You would expect it from a Psychiatrist with all the fancy titles behind their names, but no, it comes from me, humble Alan Berkeley, an ordinary man. Its amazing that these Psychiatrists with all their titles and education can't find a cure and I can. It's taken me until now, but I've found the cure.
      The revolutionary measures to cure these two disorders are as follows...
      1. Good parenting.
      2. Consistent parenting.
      3. Boundaries.
      4. Discipline.
      5. Being there for your kids.
      6. Make sure your kids get a lot of sleep.
      7. A good balanced diet.
      8. Less video games.
      9. Less social media.
      10. Less Television.
      11. Exercise.
      12. Let kids be kids. They are supposed to be loud and impulsive, not zombies.
      That's all.
      How come I did not see any ADHD or ODD in my classes of 30 and 40+ children at school in the 1950s and 1960s?
      Or there wasn't among soldiers in the Army in World War I and World War II?
      ADHD and ODD are just an excuse to cover bad parenting, poor diet, bad behavior and boring, poor quality teaching. It's the American and Canadian way of dealing with children they can't be bothered with making it's stupid way into the rest of the world.

    • @alanberkeley7282
      @alanberkeley7282 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zynski3451 So you think ADHD can be diagnosed like this on 14.45 th-cam.com/video/3QGUYVMOKzk/w-d-xo.html

  • @michellewei7349
    @michellewei7349 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You can actually get rid of diabetes It's called a keto diet. Not "manage" it. In that respect.. I wonder if you can "get rid of" ADHD. Hmmmm...

    • @IsleNaK
      @IsleNaK 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      you saying that keto diet will fix how your metabolism works, will re-set your insulin release to normal....?

    • @NathanLandman
      @NathanLandman 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@IsleNaK exactly. Remove sugar/carbs and the body and brain adapt to utilize fats and ketones for fuel. Hormonal dysregulation/Insulin resistance in the body (and brain!) is becoming increasingly recognized as the driving physiological force behind "chronic" diseases like diabetes, hypertension, hyperlipidemia, Alzheimer's, and autoimmune diseases. See virtahealth.com/research and dietdoctor.com for some of the scientific research backing these claims. Also Robert Lustig, MD (see the videos Sugar: The Bitter Truth and The Complete Skinny on Obesity and his book The Hacking of the American Mind, for example). There's also compelling research regarding grains (and their metabolic products) and mental and physical health disorders. See the review article titled Bread and Other Edible Agents of Mental Disease (www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnhum.2016.00130/full) for a good starting point.

    • @earthtonegirl
      @earthtonegirl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      You cannot "get rid of" Type I diabetes. It requires lifelong insulin, has nothing to do with lifestyle, and has no cure.

    • @IsleNaK
      @IsleNaK 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@NathanLandman but the wrong metabolization doesn't disappear. It's not cured. You still can't eat carbs. You just manage it in another way than taking insulin shots.

  • @sofasangriamusic3337
    @sofasangriamusic3337 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yet another incorrect statement about autism... autistic children do not have a lack of information either... Not to mention his use of the r word is wildly offensive.

    • @Plasmafox
      @Plasmafox 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      10 years when this was made ago people weren't pretending that was some horrible slur to not even be mentioned in clinical discussion. It means a delay. Get over yourself