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- After the release of Pandemic's Battlefront 2 in 2005, Lucasarts struggled to make a Battlefront 3. With Slant 6, Free Radical Design and Rebellion Software, a full official Battlefront III never released. Let's examine every attempt at one.
0:00 Intro
1:37 Enter Free Radical
2:45 Free Radical's Battlefront III
5:46 Battlefront III's Story
8:32 Renegade Squadron
10:36 Elite Squadron
11:55 Battlefront Online
12:55 Battlefront 2015
15:06 Dice's Battlefront III
16:17 Fan Projects
17:16 Conclusion
Battlefront 3 Legacy Footage from The Vault: / @battlefrontarchives
FRD Battlefront Video Sources:
PtoPOnline: • Star Wars Battlefront ...
Fuzah: / fuzahgb
Clonetrooper 163: • Star Wars Battlefront ...
Sources:
2006 Announcement of FRD’s Battlefront 3
web.archive.or...
Battlefront 3 Footage Real (FRD)
www.vg247.com/...
Pandemic Developing Battlefront 3(after FRD leave)
www.destructoi...
Pandemic NOT Developing Battlefront 3. Rumors say Rebellion
www.destructoi...
No BF3 at Dice
_T...
Rebellion AMA
/ i_am_rich_may_a_progra...
Galaxy in Turmoil: Battlefront 3
www.vg247.com/...
Pitch Documents
freeradical.fa...
Rebellion BF3
www.altchar.co...
Slant 6 Interview
www.gamewatche...
Kotaku Battlefront 3 Leak
www.google.com...
Potential Slant 6 Sources here
www.engadget.c...
Battlefront Online Assets
www.pcgamer.co...
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I will never forgive EA for destroying hope of an authentic sequel for Mercenaries, Battlefront, and Destroy All Humans.
Most hated company for a reason
If only Dicefront 2 had a Galactic Conquest mode… Oh I would have played that mode for thousands of hours
Still remember playing galactic conquest as a kid playing so long I missed dinner
It gets old after a while.
@@Wizard_Pikachu who cares it was old and limited. They could have done so much and clearly you’re a minority. I remember people being pissed it wasn’t implemented
@@Wizard_Pikachu You do a couple matches then leave, play some more later. You don’t sit down and do an entire conquest in one sitting.
I'm still playing galactic conquest
Words cannot express how much I miss pandemic studios
Yea, instead we got an actual pandemic with awful solutions lol
Mercenaries, Battlefront, and Destroy all Humans, were amazing hits that took advantage of the era's hardware to create immersive and entertaining sandbox-based gameplay experiences, then EA shut down Pandemic in 2009 only a year into owning the company.
@@LJTofficialWas that really worth mentioning man? Also it’s almost 2024 haven’t solutions already been made 😂
And free radical devs
Free radical released Haze, felt good, loudly said "Just like the simulations", got ready for battlefront 3, then immediately got lazered in the face.
Outstanding video! You've collected so much information about BFIII that I was totally unaware of. It was really a treat to watch! Great work, dude!
Thank you!
This is literally the story of my childhood dream and my first heartbreak.
Great to see some generally accurate coverage of bf3, while I did notice some small errors and omissions such as (Battlefront 4 (Frd) and the 3 game step battlefront 3 from Lucasarts), your vid is far better than the majority of battlefront 3 vids and articles that are spit out these days. Great job!
(also you forgot to credit me for the bf3 legacy footage I’m pretty sure )
That should be fixed now, sorry about that! Wanted to avoid the Battlefront 4 stuff for right now, it was getting a little unwieldy (I skipped over First Assault for a similar reason). Appreciate your kind words!
this really puts into perspective that I've been waiting for a Battlefront III for 17 years and may never get it. THANKS A LOT (but great video!)
You probably weren’t even alive 17 years ago based on your maturity bud 😂
@@Kbxbigbro808 ok, bud
This is just so painful, i love the original games and they were so close to creating a worthy sequel...
holy hell this channel is underrated, thanks for making this video i love battlefront
you're welcome! thanks for watching!
The beta of starwars battlefront 3 actually looks so much better than both new battlefronts combined. It has ground to space combat- a good or at least very interesting story- and it didn't waste time on making content for the sequels. Its literally everything ive ever wanted from battlefront.
EA’s Battlefront 2015 may have been a big let down to many, but I still remember being in complete awe at the beautiful graphics and immersion
I remember seeing it run in 4k for the first time and it felt indistinguishable from real life. It does look absolutely incredible
I remember watching the gameplay trailer and when they got in an AT-AT on Hoth
I remember getting the game and seeing the vehicles stripped of all their features. I was in complete disbelief.
I remember seeing BF3 in a Gameinformer magazine as a kid and being so excited. It sucks we never got it, and that Star Wars games started to tank after 2005, with the exception of TFU in 2008. It's sad to see Star Wars flounder like this considering how many quality games came out between 1995 to 2005. Back to back we were getting games like the Dark Forces/Jedi Knight series, Shadows of the Empire, Rogue Squadron, Podracer, KOTOR, Republic Commando, Bounty Hunter, Empire at War LEGO Star Wars, a few lesser games that were fun, but nowhere near the same level as the previously stated, and of course Battlefront. Being a kid during the prequel movies was the best era to be a Star Wars fan because there was no shortage of content, and unlike the Disney era of Star Wars it ranged from the EU on both ends of the movies and the movies as a whole.
This was an incredible video, man. The background music was haunting. It’s really heartbreaking what has happened to Battlefront. I still play 2017 every day and likely will for years to come.
Do you play on Xbox!?!? I've been trying to find people to play with for so long as I can never find on line lobbies :/
Absolutely exceptional video! So much information that I had no idea about. And your production and attention to detail makes this surely the definitive video on Battlefront III.
Big talk coming from the guy who *actually* made the definitive video on BF III, I'd never even heard of it until I saw yours
@@LuckStat if that was ever true, then the king is dead. Long live the king!
Brilliant video! Thoroughly researched, well edited, & the narration was engaging. We will watch your career with great interest 🤞🏽
Battlefront 3 is one of the most public and tragic failures ever in gaming, as great as it is that we're getting assets and maps from their game in SWBF2 i'd still like to see the original game come back to life, just to see what we all really missed
You understated how big the original Battlefront 2 was, despite the infancy of Xbox live, there were millions of gamers playing consoles multiplayer with it and the most popular game on it was Halo 2, the second most popular was Star Wars Battlefront 2.
Massively underrated channel. I am shocked you don't have 100x the subs. Keep up the great work!
So glad you mentioned renegade squadron its sequal was also such a good game plus you have both space and ground battled in some missions
A cursed legacy for sure. Every time someone attempts to make it, something terrible happens
3k subs and the most in depth yet concise commentary I’ve seen in a long time. Bravo man
Holy shit I remember their office closing down, I used to walk past on the way to school, I never knew they were making bf3 wow
If only Free Radical’s Battlefront III was as finished as they claimed it was.
Free Radical's BF3 was developed alongside Force Unleashed to the point where low-res Battlefront assets are in TFU. BF3 had the smoothest development out of all of those last few Lucasarts games which isn't saying much. Apparently the game really was mostly done, but it crashed almost always.
Im glad that the mod is there it gives the vibe battelfront 3
Really good video, As someone who spent a lot of time learning about Free Radical's BF3 and the history of BF as a whole, There was info I didn't even know about (mainly the whole Battlefront Online part) It's really a shame to see how close we were to getting BF3 multiple times, only for them to be canceled. I'm also surprised you didn't mention the leaked playable build of BF3.
Also really sad to hear that GiT has been abandoned, I followed development of it closely (even back before it was forced to rebrand by EA) and I was really hoping they could have turned the game around after the mess that was their EA release.
That one PSP build hat came around this year was still being vetted when I was working on this, and I wasn't really sure how to include it if it ended up being a hoax
@@LuckStat I was talking about the leaked xbox 360 R7 build that can be played in an almost playable state on an emulator.
Battlefront 2 (2005) was my childhood game and I have to say Battlefront 2 (2017) is indeed a worthy successor and the modern Battlefront game that we all dreamed about.
But a true perfect Battlefront game where there is seamless space to ground combat, tons of single player content, a great campaign, heroes and villains who are the most beloved Star Wars characters that feel truly great and satisfying to play, and dozens of varied maps that explore the Star Wars universe has yet to be made.
Bf 2017 is not the battlefront I dreamed about. I didn’t dream about vehicles being stripped of all their features. I didn’t dream about infantry fighting bullet sponge reinforcements and heroes constantly. I didn’t dream for shitty maps that always devolve to corridors. I didn’t dream for hero spam. I didn’t dream for classes losing all their support roles. EA battlefront 2017 is more like a nightmare than a dream😂. Even bf 2015 had a better infantry experience with its jetpacks.
This was such a spectacular video, so much deapth, so profesional!
Edit: looked through ur channel and wow! What a gem of a channel, so many videos on games i love and stories ive never heard of! I really hope this channel explodes and gets viral! You deserve that much!
Thank you so much, Daniel!
Dude this is absolutely incredible quality content your putting out. Be prepared to blow up in the coming months !
@Luck Stat Wow, I am blown away at this video. As a kid I remember always talking to my friends about how cool it would have been to see the 3rd game.
Great work. This mini is done very well. You clearly did your research and crafted an intriguing narrative. Well done, it was very satisfying to watch
My dad and I recently obtained the most recent version. The visuals were a great improvement. Arcade mode’s split screen team battles were fun but we missed bum rushing command posts. Then we tried Instant Action. It barely took us 3 rounds in each mode to realize what was lost from conquest. NPC heroes are nigh invincible with regenerating health and there was no reinforcement count just a timer, so dispatching multiple enemies no longer held the weight of actual contribution. Back to the original.
a battlefront 3 containing legends content and all 3 trilogies would be an epic w. but sadly that wont happen.
If y'all haven't downloaded the Saga and Legacy Edition's for Battlefront II do yourselves a favor and download them now. Saga makes the game modern with tons of new units and features and Legacy Edition makes the game Battlefront III ground to space combat, campaign, and all.
Hope this channel catches on, fantastic video!
Thanks so much, Michael!
Seems like Valve isn't the only when it comes to their franchises not counting to 3
To think *Haze* was released and not BF3...thats just fucking wild to me.
such an underrated youtuber :D super cool content man i hope more people find you
lucasarts really dropped the ball on this one damn
Such an amazing video, great work!!
I don't know how you have so few subscribers these are great videos you've been doing
Buddy, I don't either!
(I've only been doing this for about a year! Thanks for watching and for the nice words)
So idk if people kmow this but starwars battlefront 3 technically came out, it was called Elite Squadron. Sadly it only came out on PSP and nintendo DS and the only version that had the sort of seemless ground to space combat was the PSP version.
I have great news about the video you’re currently commenting on
Now imagine if they weren’t making haze at the same time… Pft we probably would have had bf3 and more
Most of my friends never realized how important the battlefront squadron games were back then. I did. And i was 10
As someone who played the originals on my PS2 as a kid,
What DICE Battlefront 2 did wrong was not adding Ai Hero mode, no ability to just walk up and grab a vehicle thats ready to be used, land ships and fight on foot, or just have more fighting Ai options like the original BF2 did.
Sometimes coming home from work i just dont want to fight other people. I want to play as a jedi or sith and fight other ai jedi/sith and enjoy myself not worrying about sweats hogging a character or slaughtering you instantly. Its just not fun for something that was always just a kick back and chill game.
So Disney had nothing to do with it. These Free Radical guys just bit off more than they could chew by trying to develop 2 games at once.
Thank you for informing me of the Legacy Mod. I have to check that out.
I assume that the lack of Prequel Content in Battlefront 2015 was a mandate from Disney and Lucasfilm. At the time they were trying to completely distance Star Wars from that era of the franchise, something that alienated a lot of fans including myself
100% the vibe I get as well, a lot of the marketing leading up to The Force Awakens leaned really heavily on "look at these practical effects, puppets and real sets" for a similar reason
Hopefully one of the development team stole a copy of the original battlefront 3 and is working on it secretly and will release it one day
Lucasarts and Dambusters studios both have copy’s to this day, they are not working on anything with it, sometimes they will use bf3 models in cheap mobile games but that’s about as much as any thing from bf3 will be officially used.
Amazing video, Pandemic's last one was 2005.
I’d like to add Star Wars: First Assault and Star Wars: Wingman(I think?). These were two games developed as a fps and space fighter games respectively. With the team saying they were planning on making a 3rd game combining both aspects of their previous games into a full-scale sky-to-ground combat game.
First Assault is something I've wanted to cover for a little bit. Never heard of Wingman, though, I'll have to look into it. They both sound like such cool projects
I feel like it’s just time for battlefront 3
Lucasfilmgames we need this battlefront!!!!!!
You missed a few things on the pandemic side of things,
BF1 had many years of development, dont quote me on this but i think it started around 2001?
Pandemic didnt switch from BF entirely because they were sick of it, After BF2 they did pitch a BF3 (similar to FRD's with Space to Ground) but lucasarts wanted it in a year and pandemic couldnt do that)
I'd heard that it was largely because of the short deadline (particularly so close after BF2's insanely short development), but didn't find anything about what they'd actually been working on!
@@LuckStat i spoke to a former pandemic dev about it, They had a small tech demo with Space to Ground and the ability to look at your feet battlefield style. LA offered a year of development time and pandemic said no, They wanted to upgrade the engine for BF3 but the time LA gave them wouldnt allow it
@@ccringee9094 literally you and I are like one of the only ones who knew that how was he supposed to know that
@@battlefrontarchives im not saying he was supposed to know it
@@ccringee9094 I do really appreciate the insight! Always love to hear any stories from Pandemic
the B2 angelic rizz rocket hitting my poor clone body slowly brainwashing me
The psp battlefronts played like this
Didn't even know those psp games existed. Might give them a try.
It’s shame being 98.9 % down then seeing a trailer for this as a kid growing up while playing battlefront 2 seeing bf3 trailer I was please bring it but Jen they canceled the game I was so depressed after that.
I am still waiting for redoing battlefrob 3
Some people probably won’t agree with me but I’d honestly be curious to see Infinity Ward make a Battlefront in the style of the post-2019 CoD MW games.
nuance star wars talk? you dont see that everyday in this platform. Great vid!
Someone's gotta be the one rational Star Wars fan on the platform
If you want some other nuanced Star Wars conversations you should check out this video about 1313
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This is a great video
Thank you so much!
I heard wrist rockets smiled and hit like
I wonder if the reason behind SWBFEA1 lack of content is due Battlefield 4's VERY rocky launch, it was one of the worst launch for FPS history.
If only Lucasfilms weren't so stingy and just hired people that love star wars to the core with a higher budget I fell like this would have been the best games, faults on both sides Lucasfilms thinks about money like SA games that stricts themselves from. Making a game, hiring the wrong devs and not giving enough credit to the ones that actually want a battlefront like rebellion, free radical were doing a kojima development of haze should have been monitored, Lucasfilms should have suspended the business and blacklisted them from ignoring BB3, on the other side Lucasfilms sold rights to Disney and a contract to ea that's a big nono with no entitlements such as ea games should only have power over what they should use but never make a time frame and budget within 1 year like they always do. Dice wanted to make a BB3 using the same engine what they should have done is added the battlefront elite campaign, Galatic conquest and jump from ground assault to dog fights on the same Map idea too bad that things were rushed, budgets were made and they stop listening to fans like what Mark Hamill said about The last jedi, think about the fans before publishing a movie yet as always Disney woke pushing to Make Money just like Hollywood blind with greed
Playing Battlefront II (2005) with FPS boost on the series x is kinda like Battlefront 3, right? Right? Please say yes
*guy with the beard meme* "yes."
The dice versions weren't for me but it is a shame that we never got a 3rd from the original series
Dice BF2 is a lot better than the original in my opinion, and I played the original as a kid. I think it's strange that it's a real tragedy that we were right on the cusp of getting a true sequel to the originals and the new ones with features we all wanted and fun gameplay just for ea to ruin it
@@Jiub_SNlol, dice wasn’t going to do jackshit with ea battlefront 3 that would make the ogs happy if they didn’t do it for battlefront 2. They still kept the same vehicle problems that bf 2015 had. They worsened the infantry experience by making reinforcements and heroes on the map constantly with too much health; not fun for a normal infantry soldier to fight bullet sponges constantly. They hadn’t brought back any modes from the originals besides hero vs villains and no; capital supremacy isn’t conquest. They didn’t even bring back private matches which battlefront 2015 had. EA battlefront 2 focused more on the heroes which is not the direction that fans of the ogs wanted.
Cool video thank you
you're welcome!
so people have been blaming EA for its delay but it never was in the play in the first place. free radical had that responsibility
What about the BF ds game, which had the basic story of BF3?
So that texture of Luke's face is straight from the Ultimate Sith Edition of TFU for the Hoth level. I was literally just depacking the game, saw the texture in the video, and recognized it.
Interesting. That really calls into question how far along Online was or even that texture being a part of it
Your information on why battlefront 2015 isn’t like the classics is wrong. The force awakens is not why ea and dice decided to intentionally leave out most things that made battlefront unique. Dice has been on record saying they wanted to make battlefront not like battlefield which like you said was what battlefront was heavily inspired from.
With the modernization of application of ai in modern society, I feel like small team game development will take off soon. Leaving projects like the games we never got open content for people to make into reality. Based on chatgpt's algorithm, it wouldn't be hard for an ai like that, if designed for making games, to use a modern game engines to deliver us a perfect copy of what battlefront 3 was originally intended to be. I think if this actually happens it would be a breakthrough towards a better free gaming market for everyone on all platforms, It would put huge stress on big companies that now would have to compete with anyone who has an original idea and access to the means to produce games even in their spare time, a small mod team such as the ones we see in games like fallout 4, battlefront 2(such as the one that brought us bf3 legacy), half-life, and many more could bust open the gaming industry with fresh content and actual entertainment for everyone
Also I have to point out your Dice bf1 outline was spot on, however your bf2 was not; ask anyone on release if bf2 had a fully fledged campaign and they'd laugh at you. It was a short story that was original and interesting however the game was really weak on launch and I honestly expected more. Supremacy update was the high point for the game, but it's dead to me now
@@dingusbingus7463 Ah yeah, that’s mostly a product of me playing it so far from release and being able to see the (albeit still small) complete picture.
@@LuckStat I bought it instore on release, I'll always regret the $72 I paid for it
Literally all they have to do is copy and paste or just outright remaster old battle front 2 I don’t understand the issue it would literally make them so much money.
I'm pretty sure Renegade Squadron was my introduction to the TIE Defender
TIE Fighter 1994.
@@sonofeyeabovealleffoff5462 Never played 1994 but I played Starfighter plenty as a kid
I need 2nd era 3 so bad 😞
earned a sub with this
Welcome aboard!
So has that last mod been released yet or its still in production. If does someone have a link cause that looks awesome for a bf2 classic mod.
There's a playable version of it on Moddb but I believe it's still in development
All dice had to do was take battlefield 3 and reskin it for star wars it would have been enough for the first battlefront
Just make a game under the radar and release it and keep anyones name out of it and boom spread it like wildfire then they can't cease and desist
5:28 DickButt got a double kill it would appear.
Half Life 3? Battlefront 3? same thing
The method of subtitling the video was.... an interesting choice?
I use auto fill with my script, so sometimes they aren’t perfect. Is there something in particular that needs fixed?
@@LuckStat I just checked it on mobile and its fine, but on desktop the entire script is in one block at the beginning (0:15) and there are no subtitles throughout the rest of the video. I didn't expect you to respond to a comment on an 11 month old video, good looking out!
Did he just say add to canon like force unleashed those games were not canon and were never intended to be
I'm using canon more as "adding characters to the world that may be used later" (i.e. Rahm Kota in BF3, etc.) rather than "factually happened within the Star Wars expanded universe" if that makes sense
@@LuckStat The games were considered canon at the time. Search 'kotaku elite squadron holocron canon'
@@CloneCommOmar nothing of the EU was ever canon, only Lucas approved proyects were canon
EU > Canon
I'm glad DICE is no longer making Battlefront games, they never understood the series, EA just threw it on their lap and told them do it by such and such date.
Everybody like battlefront just make another fucking battlefront is that so hard
Fuck yeah I love George Lucas!
We will never get the Star Wars game we want. I personally despise the EA Cal Kestis games, no matter how well received they are.
EU >Canon
The campaign of EA BF2 is a joke. The new canon stuff is cool lore wise, but the actual story is so so short and forgetable
“Gameplay narrative”. You immediately invalidated yourself after saying that!
Recognize this sentence is written a little weird by "emergent gameplay narratives" I mean the player is using gameplay to create their own stories and battles within the confines of the game. Thank you for the feedback!
I need EA make RTS with STAR WARs
больше бы об игре а не про вас красивых
clickbait?
How is this clickbait?
"What isn't understandable is the lack of any prequel era content".
It's perfectly understandable to someone who is sick of the incessant dicksucking those trashy films get. DICE's Battlefront is like a time capsule from before Star Wars was ruined.
You're in the minority of Star Wars fans, the majority of Star Wars fans love the Prequel Era and The Clone Wars. It doesn't matter if you didn't like the movies it came from, they're still an important part of the franchise and should be treated as such.
@@bradleyrutledge Tyranny of the majority. If the prequels didn't ride on the reputation of the OT then there would never have been succesful at all.