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Great that they are putting so much time and effort into their machines, I'm happy to see Lenovo doing what they do... But the price! Here in Denmark in terms of price it starts at about 1.7 modern gaming spec desktop computers, and the top of the line bells and whistles version costs 2.5 gaming desktop computers.
I'm glad they kept the fingerprint reader and glass trackpad, since those were removed from the regular Legion Pro 7 models this year (presumably to reduce costs from RTX 40 series and maybe provide a higher-tier Legion 9 model later). Unfortunately where I am in the US we won't be getting the 100% DCI-P3 display model in this video, which is a real shame because none of the other displays are as competitive with what's on offer from the likes of Asus ROG right now. I'm also definitely looking forward to the AMD version; hopefully you guys can get your hands on one of those down the line.
@@mybuddyphil8719 120w is still no joke tho, pretty fast imo. you can call an aventador fast but there is going to be something faster than it, but the aventador is still fast, yk?
New USB C cables can do 240w power delivery now, I wish laptops with 150w or below GPU can switch to USB C charging soon. But then these laptops should have at least 2 USB 4 ports and place them on both sides if not 3.
@@mybuddyphil8719 it may be just as fast. The difference in power adapters doesn’t matter for just charging the battery since the battery probably can’t accept more power than the USB C port can input anyways.
So true. Back in the good old days of trade shows, the brands with the weakest products had the hottest spokesmodels. That's what RGB is today: a distraction from low-quality.
@@saharshlomo6408I’ve seen some really builds that use it tastefully to complete a theme. But for everyone of those I’ve also seen 6 rainbow barf builds soooo…
Finally, manufacturers putting full size SD card slots on machines that are capable of using files that usually come in SD cards. It is just missing an Ethernet port at the back. They could have easily fit it on there.
It's a bummer that they left the Ethernet port out. My older Lenovo has one in the back next to the HDMI and friends, and it's super convenient to have when I'm trouble shooting a network or dumpling a bunch of data to my NAS.
@@japzone Personally I just have an ethernet to USB-C adapter always attached to the cable. Not a terrible sacrifice of convenience given that ethernet cables are already pretty long (mine is 50ft haha).
Great video! Just one correction - Over Drive in Lenovo Vantage is for the display - it lowers the response time, but gives a little overshoot, it's not for the fans. If you want to max the fans, you need to use the Custom profile.
You’d think they would’ve gone harder on the gaming aesthetic, considering viable it is for the purpose. But I guess I’m glad they showed restraint in that regard.
I think in general laptop manufacturers are straying away from the "gamer" aesthetic, because many customers generally don't buy gaming laptops *only* for gaming but also for school/work/productivity. College students or employees don't want to have to carry around a flashy RGB "gamer" machine to class or to a meeting, they want something more stealthy that doesn't make them look unprofessional.
@@martymcintosh5026 In person, the Legion logo isn't too gamer-y (both on the back of the screen and as the boot logo - UEFI thing). I mean I too would've preferred these two to be not gamer-y at all, just a plain old "LEGION" text (or just "Lenovo" but I get they have their reasons to switch it up a little) there but it really isn't to complain about. _For the record I have a Legion 5 2020 and I'm speaking based on that but the one in the video looks just the same to me._
115W is actually pretty much more than the 4070 can use in game. Jarrod's Tech did a video on the power limitations in the 4000 series and the 4070 stops gain any performance at 110W, even if it is running at 140w.
That's too bad. I have/had a Gigabyte Aero 15 OLED 1660ti. Can game at 4k (60hz). Too bad the board bricked somehow, only works plugged in now 😢Seriously miss that display. For "last last gen" hardware. It's still amazing.
Ya i would skip the 4070 and go for the 4060 that has the same problem but is cheaper and you dont lose mich fps. So if you gonna choose 4060/4080/4090 are the real option's
I'm a big fan of the Lenovo Legion series and especially the Slim 7 models. I have the Slim 7 Gen 6 (IIRC) with a 5800h, RTX3060, 500gb NVME and 1440p 165hz IPS - I upgraded to 24gb of 3200 RAM and added a 1tb NVME, and frankly it's been great, with very few complaints. Battery life could still be better - one day we'll get something like this machine that can stretch out 10-12 hours of battery, and it would be nice to have more definitive control over CPU clocks/TDP and whether to use the iGPU or dGPU, in Lenovo software. But the screen and build quality and power stuffed into a tiny chassis are unmatched at the prices these drop to eventually.
The new vantage software for gen 8 legions have custom power mode with fan and power control for cpu and gpu individually. Unfortunately i don't think , we'll be getting the update on older gens. I've legion 5 (2022) 12700h 3060 model.
@@hassanahmad568 yeah, they're making some of the necessary changes with each generation, to be fair. But sucks for us seeing these desired features skipping our models
@@Beehj84 May I ask you about the battery life? If you just do web browsing or watch youtube videos on battery, how long does it usually last these days for your model?
5:50 - having a numpad is also great for Blender, as the viewport shortcuts are mapped to numpad keys per default. And it makes imputing numerical values a lot faster too.
I have last year's 7i. As an engineer, it's kinda perfect. Really good performance, actually portable (instead of those huge alienwares), 5hrs battery and (best of all) it's actually stealth and looks good enough to bring into my meetings with industry. ONly thing I would change is adding an ethernet port so I need 0 adapters in the field, and the 32gb or plus. Last eyar's model was stuck to 24gb.
Same. I have the maxed out all AMD model. I have virtually no complaints. 8+ hrs battery life, and just a great experience. Only complaint is the off center trackpad during portable use. Took some getting used to.
@@bjones1794 The AMD option is also quite a miss. the 6th gen had a mixed and + nvidia which, with today's AMD efficiency, would make an absolute killing.
I have the 7th generation model of this laptop, and I must say it's the best one I've ever owned due to its very good build quality. I opted for the i7 and 3060 variant, and even after a year of use, it still runs as smoothly and efficiently as the day I first opened it. The thing that I liked most is that unlike other gaming laptops, it doesn't have any unnecessary and cringy RGB lighting on the exterior. One major flaw of this laptop is its loud fans, which can become quite noisy even on the balance settings, let alone on the highest fan setting, making it inconvenient to use in quiet environments.
Lenovo is just killing it with the price/performance/build quality, got some tablets and phones from them, rock solid (not chilling or fanboying, just cheering for the competition that's beneficial to us consumers)
I have the non-slim AMD version of this and I love it. It is also such a nice typing experience. So smooth and I love the ceramic key caps for the WASD keys.
@@ahmedalmajed4027 It’s probably bad if you care about battery life but shouldn’t matter if you’ll keep it plugged in. That’s with all gaming laptops tho.
Can we talk about Lenovo's crappy sales tactics with their "estimated value" saying a 1800 dollar laptop is worth $5,000 and they mark it half off to make it appear like a good value?
Got the legion 7 slim with 7840 hs and 4060 for 1150$. I mean all those sellers do stupid pricing and "deals". But i couldnt find anything near that price on thw other sites so i am ok with :)
Anyone else noticed how most the sponsered short circuits these days are "awesome" "love to see it" "this is amazing" What happened to genuine unboxing?
Well it's clearly a commercial more then anything else, port wise its doing worse then my legion 5 pro 2021 model , and lets not forget the price , its double
This is just Alex's way of speaking during sponsored videos or genuinely good features in a non-sponsored video. Lmg tends to take the dough these days even if a company's products aren't interesting at all like Asus TUF showcasings, videos sponsored by some random games studio or Vessi. Remember when Linus said that he wouldn't call Vessis shoes waterproof but rather water resistant? Well, he used to call them water resistant in sponsored videos but after he spoke out about it in the WAN show, I began to notice that they were suddenly described as waterproof by the hosts doing the sponsored segments in regular videos.
@@antraxbeta23 yee, comparing this to the legion 5 pro is not the best thing, this laptop got the "slim" gimmick on its name, thats why they cut a bit on the port side lmao, shouldve gone for the normal legion 7 if you want the best.
I have the first version that they released in the us, been waiting on ltt to review one of these, everything alexs loves is why i picked mine up, it is a 10th gen i7 with a 3060...
Just pulled the trigger on this with help from your review! I'm upgrading from an HP envy 17 from 2016, so pretty much anything is going to blow me away I think, but I'm so excited anyway :D
Thank you Alex for measuring the weight! Many reviewers don’t do it which is the important factor for portability and these slim gaming laptops. I was expecting Lenovo is wrong in advertising as they haven’t changed anything in chassis design compared to 2022 Slim.
Got last gen's Core i7 with 3060 GPU and my only nitpicky complaint is the odd memory upgrade. I'd love to be able to go all the way to 32GB instead of 24GB but everything else about it has been solid.
I just hate matt display. It ruins display quality and i don't care about reflection and glare on screen. Every brand must provide glossy option in all their laptop series
I couldn't see your scale setting but if like mine is lbs + oz vs decimal notation. That would make it closer to 4.45lbs, not a functional difference but at least makes Lenovo seem more honest.
I have a legion 5 pro and while the vents on the side make a major difference, I have noticed that if you actually play in “laptop” mode it blows hot air at my mouse hand and I have a tendency to curl my pinky under my keyboard which with the laptop is in the vent. Just a note to aspiring buyers about the day to day use you wouldn’t think about
Lenovo has a tendency to hide RAM slots under the keyboard on the opposite side of the mainboard. Not sure if this is the case here, but it could explain the discrepancy of the advertised 2 slots but you finding only one
i have 2 older thinkpads that do that. one has a single slot on either side. i have an older dell workstation laptop that also does that. 2 slots per side
TH-cam deleted my comment because I linked psref...Slim 7 Gen 8 has 1 RAM soldered and 1 SO-DIMM slot available... per psref - "One memory soldered to systemboard, one DDR5 SO-DIMM slot, dual-channel capable"
I don't understand why Lenovo still isn't offering a 2-in-1 convertible option in the Legion line-up! It'd be best to make it only in the 14 inch versions IMO. As of now only ASUS ROG flow X13 is a proper high performance 2 in 1 laptop with a dGPU, but it's 2023 and we NEED more options in the "2 in 1 high performance laptop" segment!! (for clarity, I mean a 2 in 1 touchscreen laptop with dedicated GPU that can be rotated 360° amd be used as a tablet too) P. S. I'd need that for engineering. Productivity + dGPU for solidworks/CAD would've been a killer conbo!
2 in 1 are a thing of the past, the chassis design is very bulky for 1 thing. A 180 fold has a much slimmer design, the Lenovo slim 9i is proof of such.
I own a Legion 7 (non pro) and before i owned an think pad e-series. I was allways satisfied with quality an performance. Opening up is allways easy. Overall i was allways happy 👍🏻
Good I/O. Would still prefer to see dedicated Ethernet and HDMI ports though, even though you can adapt USB4/Type-C for that. EDIT: it actually has HDMI
that's pretty much the trade-off for having a thin profile, at least they kept the plethora of I/O instead of gimping it like other brand's thin laptops.
@@walkhardwalk So true. I was looking at some AMD APU 17" laptops from HP, and while you can score a great laptop for around $430 when they go on sale, which you can then upgrade with more RAM, SSD and better WI-FI card for under $120 yourself after buying it (which is a lot cheaper than configuring it as such at HP), totaling $550 - the laptop lacking I/O was a big deal breaker for me. The APU spec sheet even says that it supports way more I/O, so that's not APU limitation, but HP motherboard's.
16:10 makes you see less in the games for the same diagonal, due to letterboxing for games that have a fixed aspect ratio. Same for multimedia like movies or TV series. I just love how some tech guys from 10 years ago that glorified move from 16:10 to 16:9 are now glorifying the opposite (not comenting specifically for this video and presenter).
I actually have last year's model of this laptop with an i7, 3060, 16gb RAM and a matte 1080p screen and it has been an absolute pleasure to use since I got it. It's much lighter than my previous powerhouse laptop which only had a 1050 lol. The battery life could be better of course, but they give a few power options so I put mine on Hybrid-Auto mode, only uses the GPU when plugged in to maximize battery and that made it pretty decent. The ONLY complaint I have is the headphone jack being on the right side, which I saw in the video they changed with this year's model, and I just got very jealous lmao.
@@meesup5672 Yep! In Lenovo Vantage, GPU Working Mode on the right side you gotta set that to Hybrid-Auto Mode. It has done WONDERS for my battery life.
I think glossy looks so much better in controlled environments, and I simply hate the white blotches and dimmed colors of aggressive matte finishes. I just wish gaming laptops had glossy screen options
So is 4070 that much better than 4060? I'm not the biggest gamer and I do some vid production but nothing too advanced ... I believe the 4060 at $1349.00 will suit me just fine.
Lenovo is a company I never thought I would ever be recommending to anyone. In the midst of "gaming laptops" from the likes of Alienware, Razer, MSI, Asus, etc. Lenovo with its Legion brand holds its own with it's own design philosophy. I still remember when "The World's first 16" laptop" from Lenovo came out and during that time I had my eyes and mind set on the Ausus G14 and G15 laptops. I remember saying to myself how awesome it would be to have a GAMING laptop that looks NOTHING like a GAMING laptop. The icing on top was the fact that it looks so much cleaner than a razer machine (and I thought Razer was pretty damn clean) according to Dave2D and I found my self hopelessly agreeing. I am now a proud owner of the Lenovo Legion 5 with a 3070 and I haven't looked back since. I will definitely be looking into getting another Legion in 5 -10 years time once the new cooling solutions with vibration becomes a norm.
Running legion slim 5, R7-7840HS, 16GB 5600MHz ram and RTX4070* This gets me the same exact performance in RDR2, CP2077 and SeaOfThieves as my old rusty gamingpc. Specs: i9 9900K, 32GB 6000MHz, RTX2080 Super... Gaming station costed me a arm and a leg 4years ago, today, I get the exact same performance with a laptop, at USD1500 (15,990NOK here in Norway) laptops are kinda good now.
The fans sound super loud in this video. I hope someone will show us how it really sounds in their review and maybe compare it to the previous gen for reference.
5:10 that is true thanks to Microsoft Precision. Synaptics is sometimes still there but it simply routes the driver to Windows and that makes the Experience way fluid even on sh*tty material. I can't wait when MS implement their RGB panel so we can ditch every proprietary drivers for mouse/keyboard etc. (i also hope they'll implement control over side mouse keys or fan profiles, but it won't happen anytime soon)
Got this one and I am really, really happy with the build quality and how cool and smooth it runs. Previously on a 2016 MacBook Pro, scales up well. Not another windows plastic crap house.
I do often see that 'switching the panel directly to the dGPU' on laptops that can do it, results in missing functionality (like HDR or most importantly, variable refreshrate). On a machine with a rtx3050ti 35watt (lowest of the 3000 series basically) I see none to very little performance difference, but having VRR between 48 and 120 makes all the difference in how it feels!. (And my laptop is wired in such a way that one of the USB-C ports is always connected to the dGPU, and the other always to the onboard graphics. If you know this, it helps when you connected an external display directly to the dGPU). But for the laptop panel itself, I always prefer to let it go through the intel-xe graphics. It makes all the difference for battery life if you don't game (Without having to restart) and as I said, VRR makes all the difference if it doesn't work on your dGPU (it often does not because of the LVDS connector I guess).
I mean I'd like it if these reviews would go in depth to see how the components would perform with adequate cooling and how much performance your'e keeping on the table for a small form factor device
My "old" Lenovo Legion is also slim. Which sounds better than it is. It is VERY ...deep. AND power and other plugs go straight out the back. If you have a small desk, for example in a hotel it get's quite cramped. If you don't, it's fine.
So it doesn't have two DIMM slots? Lenovo likes to put one on the underside of mobo and one on top (under the keyboard). Thanks for the review. Pricey but it looks like a good alternative to the insanely expensive T16p. This Legion looks much better than the previous ones. They were SO thick. I love the numpad but no pointing nub? C'mon Leneovo!
I have the Gen 7 sim7 with the AMD cpu/gpu and i love it. I have the higher res with 500 nits and 165hz and it is awesome. The other slim 7 in gen 7 had a 1080P screen.
the config that I maxed out, is under 2500 usd and that is with the i9-13900H and 4070 8gb, W11 pro, 32gb ram (16 is soldered and 16 is SODIMM), 1tb ssd, 16 3.2K (3200x2000) 100% DCI-P3 and 430 nits, 165hz display.
What do you guys think of the new generation of the Legion Slim 7i? If you think it's great, make sure to head to the description and enter Lenovo Legions ultimate gamer setup giveaway worth over $3000!
Great that they are putting so much time and effort into their machines, I'm happy to see Lenovo doing what they do... But the price! Here in Denmark in terms of price it starts at about 1.7 modern gaming spec desktop computers, and the top of the line bells and whistles version costs 2.5 gaming desktop computers.
look like a good laptop all around , but now im debating whether to get the 4070 or 4060 version.
I'm glad they kept the fingerprint reader and glass trackpad, since those were removed from the regular Legion Pro 7 models this year (presumably to reduce costs from RTX 40 series and maybe provide a higher-tier Legion 9 model later). Unfortunately where I am in the US we won't be getting the 100% DCI-P3 display model in this video, which is a real shame because none of the other displays are as competitive with what's on offer from the likes of Asus ROG right now. I'm also definitely looking forward to the AMD version; hopefully you guys can get your hands on one of those down the line.
giveaway not EU?
Can I have the laptop?
i realy like how they handled the charging situation. a higher wattage dc port is easier to do, but still gives fast charging through usb c.
@@mybuddyphil8719 120w is still no joke tho, pretty fast imo. you can call an aventador fast but there is going to be something faster than it, but the aventador is still fast, yk?
@@saipulivarthi yeah and then complains that the charger is proprietary and unusable
@@mybuddyphil8719 honestly, wasting my time on arguing about why have 2 options to charge a laptop is not what i want to be doing rn
New USB C cables can do 240w power delivery now, I wish laptops with 150w or below GPU can switch to USB C charging soon. But then these laptops should have at least 2 USB 4 ports and place them on both sides if not 3.
@@mybuddyphil8719 it may be just as fast. The difference in power adapters doesn’t matter for just charging the battery since the battery probably can’t accept more power than the USB C port can input anyways.
"You don't need RGB when you just have nice materials." - Classy Alex.
So true. Back in the good old days of trade shows, the brands with the weakest products had the hottest spokesmodels. That's what RGB is today: a distraction from low-quality.
IMO, you don't need RGB at all, no matter if you have fancy materials or not. It looks ugly and unprofessional.
@@saharshlomo6408I’ve seen some really builds that use it tastefully to complete a theme. But for everyone of those I’ve also seen 6 rainbow barf builds soooo…
Can't agree more
but normal legion 7 have both😂
Finally, manufacturers putting full size SD card slots on machines that are capable of using files that usually come in SD cards. It is just missing an Ethernet port at the back. They could have easily fit it on there.
Apple does that too on their macbook pros, no ethernet cable though. It's good that companies are now catering to their target audiences.
I believe an Ethernet port takes up a lot of space *inside* the laptop, so more of a spatial cost than is obvious.
It's a bummer that they left the Ethernet port out. My older Lenovo has one in the back next to the HDMI and friends, and it's super convenient to have when I'm trouble shooting a network or dumpling a bunch of data to my NAS.
@@japzone Personally I just have an ethernet to USB-C adapter always attached to the cable. Not a terrible sacrifice of convenience given that ethernet cables are already pretty long (mine is 50ft haha).
@@robertwright8844 same could be said for hdmi, usb-a, SD card, micro SD card. It's a terrible excuse.
Great video! Just one correction - Over Drive in Lenovo Vantage is for the display - it lowers the response time, but gives a little overshoot, it's not for the fans. If you want to max the fans, you need to use the Custom profile.
is it worth it to use it since it overshoots?
@@albion_i IMO, yes, I found the display response time perfect with Overdrive enabled.
You’d think they would’ve gone harder on the gaming aesthetic, considering viable it is for the purpose. But I guess I’m glad they showed restraint in that regard.
its a nice understated design, but i still would like them to change the Legion logo, too gamer-y imo
I’m purchasing this for a work and gaming laptop, so I’m glad it isnt
I've brought mine to work (engineering) and feel comfortable using it. so thats a win-win for me in my use case.
I think in general laptop manufacturers are straying away from the "gamer" aesthetic, because many customers generally don't buy gaming laptops *only* for gaming but also for school/work/productivity. College students or employees don't want to have to carry around a flashy RGB "gamer" machine to class or to a meeting, they want something more stealthy that doesn't make them look unprofessional.
@@martymcintosh5026 In person, the Legion logo isn't too gamer-y (both on the back of the screen and as the boot logo - UEFI thing). I mean I too would've preferred these two to be not gamer-y at all, just a plain old "LEGION" text (or just "Lenovo" but I get they have their reasons to switch it up a little) there but it really isn't to complain about.
_For the record I have a Legion 5 2020 and I'm speaking based on that but the one in the video looks just the same to me._
115W is actually pretty much more than the 4070 can use in game. Jarrod's Tech did a video on the power limitations in the 4000 series and the 4070 stops gain any performance at 110W, even if it is running at 140w.
Thats bad. If you have last gen, no need for upgrade, performance is not worth it all. 40 series I believe is for those with much older laptops
Me with my 1650: Sad gpu noises😢
That's too bad. I have/had a Gigabyte Aero 15 OLED 1660ti. Can game at 4k (60hz). Too bad the board bricked somehow, only works plugged in now 😢Seriously miss that display. For "last last gen" hardware. It's still amazing.
Absolutely 👍🏻
Ya i would skip the 4070 and go for the 4060 that has the same problem but is cheaper and you dont lose mich fps. So if you gonna choose 4060/4080/4090 are the real option's
Finally, a laptop that supports high power over usb c! They released the spec in 2020, I've been waiting forever for one to come out!
I'm a big fan of the Lenovo Legion series and especially the Slim 7 models. I have the Slim 7 Gen 6 (IIRC) with a 5800h, RTX3060, 500gb NVME and 1440p 165hz IPS - I upgraded to 24gb of 3200 RAM and added a 1tb NVME, and frankly it's been great, with very few complaints. Battery life could still be better - one day we'll get something like this machine that can stretch out 10-12 hours of battery, and it would be nice to have more definitive control over CPU clocks/TDP and whether to use the iGPU or dGPU, in Lenovo software. But the screen and build quality and power stuffed into a tiny chassis are unmatched at the prices these drop to eventually.
The new vantage software for gen 8 legions have custom power mode with fan and power control for cpu and gpu individually. Unfortunately i don't think , we'll be getting the update on older gens.
I've legion 5 (2022) 12700h 3060 model.
@@hassanahmad568 yeah, they're making some of the necessary changes with each generation, to be fair. But sucks for us seeing these desired features skipping our models
@@Beehj84 May I ask you about the battery life? If you just do web browsing or watch youtube videos on battery, how long does it usually last these days for your model?
When do they “eventually” drop in price? Or start to?
The legion slim 7 amd will have a ryzen 7 or 9 7840hs processor. That combined with a 99.9 whr battery, runtime is something I’m very curious to see
5:50 - having a numpad is also great for Blender, as the viewport shortcuts are mapped to numpad keys per default. And it makes imputing numerical values a lot faster too.
I have last year's 7i. As an engineer, it's kinda perfect. Really good performance, actually portable (instead of those huge alienwares), 5hrs battery and (best of all) it's actually stealth and looks good enough to bring into my meetings with industry. ONly thing I would change is adding an ethernet port so I need 0 adapters in the field, and the 32gb or plus. Last eyar's model was stuck to 24gb.
It's a shame they removed the Ethernet on recent models. My older Lenovo has one in the back and it's super convenient.
Same. I have the maxed out all AMD model. I have virtually no complaints. 8+ hrs battery life, and just a great experience.
Only complaint is the off center trackpad during portable use. Took some getting used to.
@@japzone Ethernet is quite handy for me when connecting to equipment.
@@bjones1794 The AMD option is also quite a miss. the 6th gen had a mixed and + nvidia which, with today's AMD efficiency, would make an absolute killing.
You mention bringing it to meetings, do find that the fan volume is quiet enough?
They did a lot of the things right here, glad this is the direction gaming laptops are going
I have the 7th generation model of this laptop, and I must say it's the best one I've ever owned due to its very good build quality. I opted for the i7 and 3060 variant, and even after a year of use, it still runs as smoothly and efficiently as the day I first opened it. The thing that I liked most is that unlike other gaming laptops, it doesn't have any unnecessary and cringy RGB lighting on the exterior.
One major flaw of this laptop is its loud fans, which can become quite noisy even on the balance settings, let alone on the highest fan setting, making it inconvenient to use in quiet environments.
How's the battery life?
@@amerhakimi1426 not the best but good enough depending on your usage
I've got the same model you do and it's my first gaming laptop. Really happy with it even after coming from years of macbooks.
@@amerhakimi1426 not that good tbh. It's on par with other gaming laptops. But I've heard the AMD option has way better battery life.
@@cloudynitro do you have 71 or 99 watt battery
Lenovo is just killing it with the price/performance/build quality, got some tablets and phones from them, rock solid (not chilling or fanboying, just cheering for the competition that's beneficial to us consumers)
I have the non-slim AMD version of this and I love it. It is also such a nice typing experience. So smooth and I love the ceramic key caps for the WASD keys.
hows the battery life/heat ?
@@ahmedalmajed4027 It’s probably bad if you care about battery life but shouldn’t matter if you’ll keep it plugged in.
That’s with all gaming laptops tho.
Can we talk about Lenovo's crappy sales tactics with their "estimated value" saying a 1800 dollar laptop is worth $5,000 and they mark it half off to make it appear like a good value?
This is $1500 for an i7 13700h 16gb ram rtx 4060.
Totally agree! Inflated prices with ridiculous discounts and endless cupons! It’s just so annoying.
Got the legion 7 slim with 7840 hs and 4060 for 1150$. I mean all those sellers do stupid pricing and "deals". But i couldnt find anything near that price on thw other sites so i am ok with :)
@@redknight2120
Where did you get it for that price?
It may be crappy but it does work. This practice has been around for decades.
Regardless they do have some good prices.
Anyone else noticed how most the sponsered short circuits these days are "awesome" "love to see it" "this is amazing"
What happened to genuine unboxing?
And didn't mention about a network port (RJ45), a must in my opinion..... it has been mention in other laptops.....
Well it's clearly a commercial more then anything else, port wise its doing worse then my legion 5 pro 2021 model , and lets not forget the price , its double
This is just Alex's way of speaking during sponsored videos or genuinely good features in a non-sponsored video. Lmg tends to take the dough these days even if a company's products aren't interesting at all like Asus TUF showcasings, videos sponsored by some random games studio or Vessi.
Remember when Linus said that he wouldn't call Vessis shoes waterproof but rather water resistant? Well, he used to call them water resistant in sponsored videos but after he spoke out about it in the WAN show, I began to notice that they were suddenly described as waterproof by the hosts doing the sponsored segments in regular videos.
Wait... you're telling me that sponsored videos are biased? NO. WAY. 😱
@@antraxbeta23 yee, comparing this to the legion 5 pro is not the best thing, this laptop got the "slim" gimmick on its name, thats why they cut a bit on the port side lmao, shouldve gone for the normal legion 7 if you want the best.
I have a Legion from 2021, and I've enjoyed it. This is making me reconsider my oath to get a Framework as my next laptop.
I have the last gen and it gets toasty. I'm typing on it right now. Looks exactly like the one shown here. It's way nicer than I was expecting.
oh an one thing kind of not mentioned is mine has 16gb but 8gb is soldered. so its not really that upgradeable.
@@timothystevenhoward thats the last gen one. this one can get more
0:05 Lapty be like:
"Ayo chill, AYO CHILL BRUV"
checks the weight in lbs and then goes like what is that in real units 😂😂
🤣 well yeah he's a true Cannuck
I have the first version that they released in the us, been waiting on ltt to review one of these, everything alexs loves is why i picked mine up, it is a 10th gen i7 with a 3060...
I wish Short Circuit would review some budget laptops. I can't remember the last time I saw them do that if ever.
This is a budget laptop these days 😂
@@frostgodx 😂
Short Circuit doesn't review products.
@@FastSloth87 imagine being this pedantic in TH-cam comments
@@EoRdE6 I mean... This is sponsored content? It's an ad paid for by Lenovo. That's not a review.
Just pulled the trigger on this with help from your review! I'm upgrading from an HP envy 17 from 2016, so pretty much anything is going to blow me away I think, but I'm so excited anyway :D
Thank you Alex for measuring the weight! Many reviewers don’t do it which is the important factor for portability and these slim gaming laptops. I was expecting Lenovo is wrong in advertising as they haven’t changed anything in chassis design compared to 2022 Slim.
I got the 3070 one a couple months ago
LOVE the build quality and the num pad
Can I you about the battery life? How long does the laptop last when you just do web browsing or watch youtube videos on battery?
I've got the Legion Pro 5 with a 3070 and it's still a beast, great laptop
Got last gen's Core i7 with 3060 GPU and my only nitpicky complaint is the odd memory upgrade. I'd love to be able to go all the way to 32GB instead of 24GB but everything else about it has been solid.
Any fan noise or thermal issues?
I just hate matt display. It ruins display quality and i don't care about reflection and glare on screen.
Every brand must provide glossy option in all their laptop series
Every time Shortcircuit hosts Alex in a new video, he quite litterally cracks open the box.
whats up with him treating everything like junk? seems strange.
@@bernRArandom = funny. Do it all the time = inside joke
Due to voltage limits, as long as that 4070 os around 100 watts, it will perform the same as a 140w
I’d honestly go for this laptop if I was in the market for one.
I couldn't see your scale setting but if like mine is lbs + oz vs decimal notation. That would make it closer to 4.45lbs, not a functional difference but at least makes Lenovo seem more honest.
I have a legion 5 pro and while the vents on the side make a major difference, I have noticed that if you actually play in “laptop” mode it blows hot air at my mouse hand and I have a tendency to curl my pinky under my keyboard which with the laptop is in the vent. Just a note to aspiring buyers about the day to day use you wouldn’t think about
Lenovo has a tendency to hide RAM slots under the keyboard on the opposite side of the mainboard. Not sure if this is the case here, but it could explain the discrepancy of the advertised 2 slots but you finding only one
i have 2 older thinkpads that do that. one has a single slot on either side. i have an older dell workstation laptop that also does that. 2 slots per side
No it only has one replaceable slot, and other one is soldered RAM.
TH-cam deleted my comment because I linked psref...Slim 7 Gen 8 has 1 RAM soldered and 1 SO-DIMM slot available... per psref - "One memory soldered to systemboard, one DDR5 SO-DIMM slot, dual-channel capable"
Just got my first Lenovo Legion PC 2 days ago. Love it and a great value.
I don't understand why Lenovo still isn't offering a 2-in-1 convertible option in the Legion line-up! It'd be best to make it only in the 14 inch versions IMO.
As of now only ASUS ROG flow X13 is a proper high performance 2 in 1 laptop with a dGPU, but it's 2023 and we NEED more options in the "2 in 1 high performance laptop" segment!!
(for clarity, I mean a 2 in 1 touchscreen laptop with dedicated GPU that can be rotated 360° amd be used as a tablet too)
P. S. I'd need that for engineering. Productivity + dGPU for solidworks/CAD would've been a killer conbo!
2 in 1 are a thing of the past, the chassis design is very bulky for 1 thing.
A 180 fold has a much slimmer design, the Lenovo slim 9i is proof of such.
The 1 soldered/1 slot RAM situation is pretty common for smaller gaming laptops. The Asus G14 and G15 are the same.
I own a Legion 7 (non pro) and before i owned an think pad e-series. I was allways satisfied with quality an performance. Opening up is allways easy. Overall i was allways happy 👍🏻
Mickey Mouse mode during the camera test is excellent :D
Dude! The strings on that hoodie are MASSIVE!! lmao
I have a slim 7 from last year, and it's awesome!
Lenovo has been killing it for a while. Love my Legion from 2 years ago and this one will be on my list for an upgrade
Good I/O. Would still prefer to see dedicated Ethernet and HDMI ports though, even though you can adapt USB4/Type-C for that.
EDIT: it actually has HDMI
that's pretty much the trade-off for having a thin profile, at least they kept the plethora of I/O instead of gimping it like other brand's thin laptops.
@@walkhardwalk So true. I was looking at some AMD APU 17" laptops from HP, and while you can score a great laptop for around $430 when they go on sale, which you can then upgrade with more RAM, SSD and better WI-FI card for under $120 yourself after buying it (which is a lot cheaper than configuring it as such at HP), totaling $550 - the laptop lacking I/O was a big deal breaker for me. The APU spec sheet even says that it supports way more I/O, so that's not APU limitation, but HP motherboard's.
but it has dedicated HDMI, wdym?
@@stclaws9580 Ah, missed that
I still love my Slim 7! This looks like it has awesome improvements!
Just ordered the 4060 version. Can’t wait to check it out. Decent price on the UK Rewards Store
Have you got it
@@nikhilanandpandit8644 shipping tomorrow supposedly
a number pad is a must !
16:10 makes you see less in the games for the same diagonal, due to letterboxing for games that have a fixed aspect ratio. Same for multimedia like movies or TV series.
I just love how some tech guys from 10 years ago that glorified move from 16:10 to 16:9 are now glorifying the opposite (not comenting specifically for this video and presenter).
so you all don't bust out the mac book speaker comparison for sponsored videos?
I actually have last year's model of this laptop with an i7, 3060, 16gb RAM and a matte 1080p screen and it has been an absolute pleasure to use since I got it. It's much lighter than my previous powerhouse laptop which only had a 1050 lol. The battery life could be better of course, but they give a few power options so I put mine on Hybrid-Auto mode, only uses the GPU when plugged in to maximize battery and that made it pretty decent. The ONLY complaint I have is the headphone jack being on the right side, which I saw in the video they changed with this year's model, and I just got very jealous lmao.
WAIT A MINUTE you can set to use gpu only when plugged in? HOWW? is that setting is in vantage?
@@meesup5672 Yep! In Lenovo Vantage, GPU Working Mode on the right side you gotta set that to Hybrid-Auto Mode. It has done WONDERS for my battery life.
LMG sponsored videos are getting worst... No more real reviews. No more comparisons, nothing. Just a simplistic analysis of the laptop.
Linus became obnoxious, all he talks about his merch.
@@evilleader1991 They are going for quantity and not quality.
Cant wait for the 7940hs
I think glossy looks so much better in controlled environments, and I simply hate the white blotches and dimmed colors of aggressive matte finishes. I just wish gaming laptops had glossy screen options
I need this so bad!!! I'm currently using the Lenovo Legion Tower 5 and I am in love with the Lenovo brand.
So is 4070 that much better than 4060? I'm not the biggest gamer and I do some vid production but nothing too advanced ... I believe the 4060 at $1349.00 will suit me just fine.
Lenovo is a company I never thought I would ever be recommending to anyone. In the midst of "gaming laptops" from the likes of Alienware, Razer, MSI, Asus, etc. Lenovo with its Legion brand holds its own with it's own design philosophy. I still remember when "The World's first 16" laptop" from Lenovo came out and during that time I had my eyes and mind set on the Ausus G14 and G15 laptops. I remember saying to myself how awesome it would be to have a GAMING laptop that looks NOTHING like a GAMING laptop. The icing on top was the fact that it looks so much cleaner than a razer machine (and I thought Razer was pretty damn clean) according to Dave2D and I found my self hopelessly agreeing. I am now a proud owner of the Lenovo Legion 5 with a 3070 and I haven't looked back since. I will definitely be looking into getting another Legion in 5 -10 years time once the new cooling solutions with vibration becomes a norm.
Right choice dude, the legion is a huge market changer for gaming laptops these years. Razer made a good start, but Lenovo performed the idea well.
I have an old 2018 msi laptop and it's not the Best for.build quality and durability. Next time I'm going with legion.
The headtracker is also really useful in flight simulators
Alex's chaotic unboxing of laptops will never not excite me.
I have a Lenovo IdeaPad Gaming 3 and absolutely love the keyboard on it. Overall I'm pretty impressed with it in general.
Same 😊
That noctua hoodie is nice
I'm still using a 2019 Legion but this looks super tempting as an upgrade
5:38 "I like a big one" same Alex.. same..
Running legion slim 5, R7-7840HS, 16GB 5600MHz ram and RTX4070*
This gets me the same exact performance in RDR2, CP2077 and SeaOfThieves as my old rusty gamingpc. Specs: i9 9900K, 32GB 6000MHz, RTX2080 Super... Gaming station costed me a arm and a leg 4years ago, today, I get the exact same performance with a laptop, at USD1500 (15,990NOK here in Norway)
laptops are kinda good now.
To this day I still haven't found a laptop with a keyboard as good as my Lenovo x230. That thing is awesome!
The fans sound super loud in this video. I hope someone will show us how it really sounds in their review and maybe compare it to the previous gen for reference.
5:10 that is true thanks to Microsoft Precision. Synaptics is sometimes still there but it simply routes the driver to Windows and that makes the Experience way fluid even on sh*tty material.
I can't wait when MS implement their RGB panel so we can ditch every proprietary drivers for mouse/keyboard etc. (i also hope they'll implement control over side mouse keys or fan profiles, but it won't happen anytime soon)
How does the Slim 5 with Ryzen 7 7840HS and a 4070 compare with the Slim 7i? There is a significant price difference between the two.
I would love these with an amd iGPU. Mobile Noone needs more.
Neat. Now if only there are Phoenix (Zen4 & RDNA3) based laptop with mediocre screen but under 800 usd, that will be even better.
But does it have S3 sleep?
I'm guessing you aren't allowed to get out the XPS or MacBook Pro to do a speaker comparison in a sponsored video? 🤣
Lenovo has been making some very good laptops lately. In all price categories
Yoga segment has bad RAM options, only 16Gb max for most models. Thinkpad T16 Ryzen had room for 2 RAM slots, but no.
@@az9az9az9 yoga pro 9i has lpddr5x 64gb ram option which is very fast and efficient. No problem there
thank you for covering the power adapter! A single DDR slot? WHAT??? can the NVME use Double Sided big boy stuff 4TB/8TB?
This laptop so good looking and seems promising but the true question, where can i get that noctua hoodie??
A productivity powerhouse. Just a shame these well-made gaming laptops are always limited by battery life. Really considering to get one now!
"You dont need RGB when you have nice materials" - Quote of the year
Best design from Lenovo
Got this one and I am really, really happy with the build quality and how cool and smooth it runs. Previously on a 2016 MacBook Pro, scales up well. Not another windows plastic crap house.
How is the performance, battery and weight.
Which varient did you buy
I do often see that 'switching the panel directly to the dGPU' on laptops that can do it, results in missing functionality (like HDR or most importantly, variable refreshrate). On a machine with a rtx3050ti 35watt (lowest of the 3000 series basically) I see none to very little performance difference, but having VRR between 48 and 120 makes all the difference in how it feels!.
(And my laptop is wired in such a way that one of the USB-C ports is always connected to the dGPU, and the other always to the onboard graphics. If you know this, it helps when you connected an external display directly to the dGPU). But for the laptop panel itself, I always prefer to let it go through the intel-xe graphics. It makes all the difference for battery life if you don't game (Without having to restart) and as I said, VRR makes all the difference if it doesn't work on your dGPU (it often does not because of the LVDS connector I guess).
10:42 Oooh, we get D-DDR memory! Fancy! =)
i don't know if its fully aluminum built inside and outside?? that can make it last forever
3:57 imwant a whole video like this
I mean I'd like it if these reviews would go in depth to see how the components would perform with adequate cooling and how much performance your'e keeping on the table for a small form factor device
Better wait for Jarrod's Tech channel for that kind of review.
140W USB C charging? 240W USB PD spec came out 2 years ago and we still need to rely on barrel chargers
My "old" Lenovo Legion is also slim. Which sounds better than it is. It is VERY ...deep. AND power and other plugs go straight out the back. If you have a small desk, for example in a hotel it get's quite cramped.
If you don't, it's fine.
At $1990 for the 4070 edition I think this is the ultimate slim gaming device out there!!
i just got my 4070 one for $1550 on sale and with a student discount, really good deal.
@@RyanR1612 What do you think about it so far?
I want a thunderbolt 4 port on the back so i can use the lenovo workstation dock without having to plug cables in on two sides of the unit.
I like him just because hes something diffrent, anyone else is like "lets unpack this thing very carefully" Alex is like "yeet done"
So it doesn't have two DIMM slots? Lenovo likes to put one on the underside of mobo and one on top (under the keyboard).
Thanks for the review. Pricey but it looks like a good alternative to the insanely expensive T16p. This Legion looks much better than the previous ones. They were SO thick.
I love the numpad but no pointing nub? C'mon Leneovo!
Now we're just missing a cheaper, cooler and more power efficient AMD version
AMD Zen 4 version will come later...
When do you ever push the chassis / keyboard of your laptop like that? Why does he keep testing that? 😅
I spec'd this on Lenovo's website as you went through it. This exact config is $2479.99 USD
Ive owned two gaming laptops (still do) that both have matte displays. I have grown quite accustomed to it.
I have the Gen 7 sim7 with the AMD cpu/gpu and i love it. I have the higher res with 500 nits and 165hz and it is awesome. The other slim 7 in gen 7 had a 1080P screen.
You didn’t actually prove the camera was off, you only proved the display to the screen was interrupted. Physical shutters still win.
'what's that in real units' that's my boy
according to me the most tactile and best laptop keyboard came with the surface pro 3
i’m planning to buy the lenovo legion slim 7 with the 3.2k display. which should I buy the i7 with rtx4060 or i9 with 4070? with a $160 difference
the config that I maxed out, is under 2500 usd and that is with the i9-13900H and 4070 8gb, W11 pro, 32gb ram (16 is soldered and 16 is SODIMM), 1tb ssd, 16 3.2K (3200x2000) 100% DCI-P3 and 430 nits, 165hz display.
6:07 Agree, num pad it's important.