This is STILL the laptop to beat... right? - Dell XPS 15 (2023)
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The Dell XPS 15 is usually Alex's go-to Windows laptop, but after a few years of minimal updates, is it still an easy recommendation, or has Dell let the XPS line go stagnant?
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Still the best?
0:20 Unboxing
1:18 Design impressions and IO
2:45 Sponsor - Keeper
3:20 Specs
4:44 Display impressions and Labs testing results
6:41 Gaming - Valheim
7:41 Labs' performance testing results
8:49 Trackpad and keyboard impressions
10:15 Speaker impressions and comparisons
11:51 Battery test results
12:57 Pricing
14:05 Webcam and microphone impressions
14:31 Teardown
15:44 Overall thoughts
16:14 Outro - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
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I wish I had as much joy about something, like Alex has joy for Dell XPSs
Me too
if y where in your place y would run away in your place, bad firmware. bad drivers, most of the time if you use the pc in domain, it won't turn off only if you force the power button. display driver crashing etc personally y won't get other than Asus or hp.
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The real issue with this computer is the thermal management but there was no mention of it.
100% The fan noise and cpu vrm temps are out of control year after year on this model. They need to vapor chamber the damn thing already
feels lazy. make fun of the silly apple notch, but not mention something like this? come on...
@@brohanson and funnily makes mention of the notch with a side by side which clearly shows the apple display as taller than the dell's: apple increased the height of the display so you have a 16:10 below the notch, so it's not like you're actually losing any screen real estate. Essentially it's a free menu bar (which apple's own fullscreen takes in account). Not that apple's laptop cameras are not unacceptable garbage, but the fury over the notch won't ever not be nonsensical.
they mentioned it for like a second
around 3:40 they mention you have the option for an I9 but the laptop doesn't have the thermals to support it
Better dont mention that noisy fan or else Dell will not ask them to review it next time (and get $$$)
As a heads up, DON'T go with the 4070 model! It's a 100+ watt card, but in the xps it has a tdp of under 50W. If you need a good gpu, look elsewhere, or stick with the 4060 instead.
Yep definitely good advice and that explains why the gaming benchmarks are poor and lower than my MSI laptop that has a 130W 3070... More people need to check the maximum TDP of the card when buying gaming capable laptops that have an RTX card to avoid being disappointed
@@nooneinpartI think it does make a difference vs the 4060, but at such low tdp it isn't worth the money
@@nooneinpart It does run worse. I watched a different review of the laptop and the 4070 performed even worse than some 3060 laptops. It's a complete waste of money if you're planning on gaming on the side with it.
@@nooneinpartit's a relative issue. The 4070 should draw 200w, whereas the 4060 should draw 115w. So if you're only giving them say 40w, that's 35% of the 4060 but only 20% of the 4070.
So you wind up in a situation where, because of the thermal limitations of a laptop, the 4060 can and will outperform the 4070 because you are getting more of the available performance
40 series cards perform surprisingly well at lower power
XPS 15 has shitty io and thermal, but the real dealbreaker is the pricing. For the i7 4060 model in the UK, they charge £2,149. This is INSANE compared to the competition from Lenovo and Asus.
Yup, Dell laptops are pretty Expensive for the Specs they Offer.
Not to mention that the macbooks now probably smoke the Dell on both performance and battery life.
@@ArthropodSpidey They will smash it on battery life but be nowhere close performance-wise. Identical spec premium Windows laptops from Lenovo and Asus with a 4060 can be had for only 1500-1600 ish a whole 700 less.
@@Ec1ipse.. nowhere close? What absolute nonsense.
Have you even used a M1 or M2 powered Mac? The M2 Ultra is a monster and doesn't require 250W to run like Intels chips do. They also run at the same wattage and speed when they're not plugged in.
You have zero idea what you're talking about.
@@ArthropodSpideyAnd even the XPS 15 has a worse port selection than a MacBook Pro. Who would have thought!?
I was considering getting an xps last week. But the lack of I/O was literally the one and only deal breaker for me.
The world of thunderbolt awaits you.
@@FlyingGuy123 we should still be living in the world of put the fucking IO on the laptop
I have like 7 wires sticking out of my laptop. It looks like it's on life support. I wish I had thunderbolt.
@@FlyingGuy123 The best life is to have 2 Thunderbolts (one on each side) AND the rest of the normal IO. When you use it at home, just use your dock, but when i'm, for example on the train, i'm not going to pull out a dongle for my usb a headset
@@alexanderbr8525 fantastic example. Made me think
I would love to see this next to the Framework 16, as this is what I (and other viewers) are probably deciding between.
11:02 I don't know if it is done on purpose but the XPS display and the screen behind it aligning perfectly is so soooo so satisfying !!
My old XPS 9560 is still going strong, and it's shocking to me because I normally upgrade electronics more frequently. However, there has been nothing that drives me to do so with this computer: the screen still looks great, the battery lasts long enough for my use, and the power is more than adequate for the basic tasks it performs.
Also, there is no other company that I have found that matches the warranty of Dell for Windows computers. Every time I had an issue with mine it was fixed within three days. Sometimes even the next day.
Also in this camp. It kept going so I ended up putting 32GB of RAM, a 2TB SSD and a new battery in it over the last year.
The thermals are definitely bad under heavy loads. Surprisingly the throttling wasn't caused by the CPU/GPU but the VRMs overheating. A thermal image was shared around back in the day which identified the problem areas.
If you connected the VRMs with thermal pads to the bottom aluminium case and pointed a fan pad at it the throttling stopped.
After doing it I could actually play BF4 for longer than 20-30 minutes which is when they would get heat saturated.
Would definitely buy another. The warranty was great and it's easy to find parts and work on it yourself.
My 9570 exploded in a hot summer xD 1 year after warranty over so I’m done with them.
I've used a Dell Precision 5520, after more than 5 years of usage, to a Precision 5570 - not because of lack of power or functionality, but because the battery was beyond gone. These devices are brilliant and are even better than XPS.
That being said, while the warranty service is great, a 1 year base warranty isn't so much. When we got my wife an XPS 9570, we paid extra for the 3 years extended warranty.
my XPS 9550 is still running strong too! The only "repair" I've had to do is replace the battery a few years back but besides that, it's been doing great. When this finally kicks the can, I'll definitely be going for another XPS!
I hope you'll also start talking about BIOS settings for upgradability: for example HP is well known to lock down everything, even fan profiles and RAM timing with the risk of messing everything up when trying to upgrade...
Would be great to see a comparison of Lenovo Slim Pro 9i ( MINI LED) and ASUS zenbook Pro OLED.
PLEASE, throw in a G14 while you're at it
Yup! Love, love my 9530 (13th gen i9, rtx 4070, 32G Ram, 512 + 1TB SSD's). It is a powerhouse. I was worried at first since the qc on my earlier XPS's was tragically laughable. However, circumstances being what they were in my case, I took the plunge with this one, mostly because of specs. It has been working flawlessly since May and, even though, the FHD+ which I got can't compete with my 16" M1 Pro, it's still beautiful to look at; liking the matte! Anyway, thanks for the review, which is fairer than some on the TH-cam (I'm looking at you Josh! lol).
UPDATE: Why FHD? Because this beast with (16G ram and 512G SSD) came in at a whopping $3200+ (CAD), which is exactly what I paid for my 16" M1 Pro (base) last year. My M1 Pro still smokes the XPS (battery, speakers, display, etc.) but it can't "seriously" game.
Thanks for the awesome review as always. Would love to see you review the Lenovo Slim/Yoga pro 9i with miniLED and how it stacks up against the XPS.
I'd love to see a zen 3+ APU laptop roundup, I recently got a thinkpad t14 gen 3 and the power/battery life combo has been a game changer, I hope by now it has more competition.
I’m still on my XPS 15 from 2018. All I’ve had to swap over the years is the battery and it’s still running great for my needs which include editing on premiere pro and photoshop. But I have been looking at possibly upgrading.
Would love to see a comparison between the new XPS 15 and the new Framework 16
I'd be interested to see your thoughts on the new Zenbook 15 OLED (UM3504). I've been looking to get one before I start uni as both a portable work laptop, and docked with an eGPU for gaming, but have been slightly hesitant to pull the trigger
I had a terrible experience with the OLED XPS some years ago, when it was working, it was amazing. I switched to an m1 mac air and by far the most missed thing is the OLED display
I would love to see a laptop shootout. XPS Vs HP Vs Lenovo Vs MacBook Vs Frmaework
The driver for the built-in Intel graphics now installs the Arc Graphics controls by default, even though you don't really need them. You have to do a custom driver installation to install only the graphics driver and not the Arc Controls.
Honestly, a must-do for these laptops is to open them up and repaste them with a high-quality thermal paste. You can also upgrade the thermal pads or use TG-PP10 for any chiplets for a little extra performance. Honeywell PTM7950 is also an option.
The stock application of paste oftentimes sucks, so this should help with idle temps, fan ramping, and frequency drops at peak.
You’re very confused about what the phrase “must-do” means
yeah, and void your warranty! A must do indeed
ah yes, just instantly void any warranty you have
@@Hentjim this wont void your warranty in most parts of the world i imagine (certainly wont in EU), and it shouldn't void it in NA either but i know NA has some horrendous warranty laws so it wouldn't surprise me.
Right the first thing that I should do after purchasing a high-end expensive laptop is to void the warranty.
Not hearing Alex mention Windows modern standby felt weird, it had become such a mainstay in his laptop reviews aha.
Also I don't remember hearing if it was ever fixed after those Windows devs started to look into it?
Non issue
@@8020Alive it’s absolutely an issue. The fact that I NEED TO boot into an unoptimized Linux distro on a laptop to get better sleep drain than Windows while traveling is a MASSIVE oversight. I got so fed up with losing 15%+ battery daily in sleep I went and bought an M2 MacBook. No regrets.
I shouldn’t have to dualboot PopOS just so my laptop doesn’t murder itself connecting to rogue Wi-Fi APs while I travel from worksite to worksite for work. If you actually care about using your laptop’s battery windows is ABSOLUTELY a non-starter in 2023.
I'm frankly astonished that Microsoft hasn't quietly gone back to offering hibernation by default. It has all the upsides of "modern sleep" without these ridiculous problems...
@@PhysicsGamerit’s even stupider when you consider how fast modern NVME drives are now. (Sleep stores in RAM, hibernation stores in storage.)
MS’s trend of trying to make laptops more like phones is incredibly asinine. I do not need background updates while my laptop is off Microsoft please politely get the F out of my space and stop using my computer for me.
@@firstwolfplus You can easily enable Hibernate though and Hibernate isn't that slow off of an SSD.
Gotta say the notch on the Macbook Pro has never bothered me. I don't own one (I own an Air) but the space where the notch is at is taken up by the menu bar, so its not like you're losing screen real estate.
The main problem with the notch is just that it doesn't support FaceID
I remembered Linus said something along the line, where they (the reviwerer) kept asking for thinner bezel with webcam and facial recognition but at the same time complaint about the poor webcam performance. This is what they wished for when asking for thinner bezel accordingly to manufacture. At the same time, LTT usually are more forgiving with Windows laptop than Macbook anyway
I kind of like how it looks.
It you spend 100% of your time on desktop, sure.
@@breaddough-vk8gf thinner bezel results in worse webcam performance which they complaint as well..
I have the xps 9300 w 4k & touch screen and it’s amazing. Can’t game but for work it’s an absolute dream, so thin and easy to carry around my only complaint is the battery life. Thing gets like 5-6 hours max on performance mode
I think I would really like to see a yearly comparison between windows and mac laptops. Like, make them do the same stuff, like compiling an Android project, editing videos etc.
Something to note as I recently bought an XPS with a 4070, it is actually cheaper to get it with a 13900H than the 13700H for some reason.
Say what you want about the notch-mind you, all you can say is you don’t like the design choice bc the notch doesn’t affect the actual use of the laptop at all-comparing that dog shit webcam to the MacBook’s should be illegal. Especially if you use your laptop’s webcam for meetings.
Got my 13in xps two years ago and is the best one i had until now(used 2 dell and 2 lenovo ultrabook before for personal/work use). The downside is that the 13in model only includes a usb c to a dongle and not the dongle in the video, but i found the part number and bought it from amazon for 20bucks
I'm super happy with my 2022 model XPS 15. The only criticism I have at all is that the front edge is a bit sharp, so it can be difficult if your wrist is at the wrong angle. Other than that, the OLED is stunning, and the audio is pretty damned good for a thin little laptop.
How’s the battery life and does the laptop heat up quickly?
@@w_21 I usually use mine plugged in, and I've also set the setting in the BIOS for that so that it tries not to kill the battery from always being plugged in. But Alex is right, the battery life isn't amazing. If I had to be on the go, away from an outlet all day, that would be an issue, but it's not a problem for my usage.
@@RobBulmahn what about the heating problem?
@@jemsjayswal7458 I've never noticed a heating problem, but I usually don't push my laptop super hard (got my desktop for heavy workloads/games).
Same here, overall happy with my 2022 XPS 15. Don't use the headphone jack though, as it doesn't disable the audio changes (DSP) done for the speakers and makes it sound horrible. If it doesn't, let me know as that means I'm using the warranty to have a tech come out and check my laptop out. Drivers and windows reinstalls haven't fixed it for me and it makes the headphone jack completely unusable imo. Oh, and I'm not the only person with this issue.
Purchased this 3 years ago because of you and and it may be one of the better buys I have ever made, thanks!
hp's laptop *kept* the barrel jack, so they can still feed lots of power, but it also come with Thunderbolts for connectivity. That's how things should actually go.
I assume Dell dropped the barrel for thinness as well. I know they have a micro-barrel but still.
The Dell USB-C charger is 130W out of the box and supports up to 180W (you can buy that charger separately), so there's no lack of power - it is not limited to the standard PD 100W, like other laptops are.
I like these (except when they catch on fire) but the port configuration is why I'm hoping the fw 16" is decent. I don't actually want an OLED, since I do static work that tends to burn into them sooner than I'd like, but they are pretty.
Give me Framework or give me nothing!!
Or a vintage Dell, I own a few early 00s Inspiron models
1300 our first laptop (retired from regular use)
1501 my Jukebox
And a pair of 6400s for retro LAN multiplayer fun
@@chandler2 the 1300's battery is long gone, it flat shorted and probably would've cought fire if I hadn't been there. The 1501 and both 6400's don't think they have batteries (guessing the control IC chips died in them)
would be great to see your review of laptops with ryzen 7840u/hs APU's. should really be much better in terms of battery life+igpu as powerful as full powered laptop 1650
Hp already does hp 845 g10 with that cpu
I'd love to see some productivity tests like the pugetbench for Davinci, Lightroom, and Photoshop. Especially compared to Macbooks. In addition, there are plenty of good deals out there for M1 Pros and M1 Maxs so it would be interesting to see how Dell's stock price compares to that price point (also performance-wise in those configs).
Agreed, doesnt have to be gaming all the time
This would be great! I don't plan on gaming at all on the xps lol
I havent seen an LTT Video in 2 years.
Man they got bad.
Just comparing to the whatever macbook this is and not even becnhmarks, just games.
Thermals werent referred to.
Its seems like somebody ordered it, they got a macbook and made a oneroll. What the heck.
They comletely miss the sense of discovery.
i still have a xps 13 from 2016, i have a custom built PC now but i still need a laptop for when I'm travelling or on the road and need to get work done, still deciding if i should get a current gen xps 15 or a mac book planning to refurbish my xp13 to give my little sister for school work
Been using XPS laptops for 11 years now. XPS laptops get a redesign every 4 years, so I'd expect something next year (usually in the summer)
How many issues have you had with them? I always hear QC problems
@@fran2911 This current one (XPS 15 9500) hasn’t had any issues of note and has actually been pretty great, but the previous iteration of the XPS 15 from over 3 years ago (9550) had all sorts of issues. A hinge that broke after a couple years (current one has a much better designed hinge), there was BIOS issues that caused a flickering screen that only got fixed by downgrading the BIOS, touchpad issues, and more. The one before that from 8 years ago (XPS 14 L421X) had some issues too, so they’ve gotten better with each iteration fixing the major pain points
@@BlindMango thanks for the detailed reply!
@@fran2911where's the reply?
@@wilsonbotlero2363lol
Eeesh, the black level on the MacBook actually looks significantly better, despite the non-oled display. I guess that is due to the antireflective coating that perhaps is lacking on the XPS? Maybe it looks better in person than in the video....
I am very glad with my 2023 model, just wish that this review came out sooner so I was more sure when I paid up
I like having ports on my LG Gram laptop, but I also see the convenience of having an all USB-C/Thunderbolt port solution, especially for charging.
But I need to tell myself that I don't need to upgrade my LG Gram, since it's still a usable laptop that I just upgrade to Windows 11.
You are too optimistic about XPS. I bought XPS 15 after seeing all the great reviews, including from you guys, and it wasn't a good buy. 2 years after buying it, everything started failing. Motherboard, GPU (literally died!), battery (which happens, but it's really bad if at the same time charging from USB C stops working until you restart your machine), errors about SSD missing during booting. It's constantly hot, no matter if you work on it or just watch a movie.
It's designed to look good during reviews but it's not a reliable working machine and the funny thing is, that all these issues are common for XPS 15. It's not like I had a bad luck with my unit. These laptops are just not a good business/working laptops.
Dell quality control is horrible please do not buy Dell, extremely disrespectful company to knowingly deliver so many lemons.
Sounds like a hatchet job of a review. Almost all components failing is not very realistic
I was surprised by your praise of the trackpad. Have they switched to haptic or is this still diving board style? What graphics card did your 2022 xps have?
The gpu for the 2022 version was a 3050 I think he said?
I would really like to see a comparison with the Zenbook Pro OLEDs
XPS body and IO has changed. Last year with change to 12th gen they had more venting and an rj jack.
Then when the 13th released. Reduced the venting. But added more thunderbolt
Love the added thunderbolt. Especially as it now does so much.
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Btw the Vostro seems to get the XPS body hand me downs.
Thanks for the review guys!, amazing coverage of the importants, for the windows users it's great to know that it's still a great choice to go for the XPS 15
It should come with an amd cpu option instead of a bigger battery
Dell doesn’t really do AMD cpus. They have contracts with Intel and nvidia.
It would be nice if all laptops came with options to swap between performance vs battery hardware options, for people who use theirs plugged in vs those who use theirs out
Really happy with my XPS 15. Got the fully loaded one from work a couple years ago, and then a few months ago they let me keep it when they switched our company laptops out.
I just picked up 2x old Dell XPS13's from like 2016, installed ubuntu, and they are still GREAT devices, especially for $100. I'd love to grab a 2022 as a daily driver, running linux, especially a 15" over the 13". But the whole lineup is fantastic all in all. Really can't go wrong.
I'm looking to buy the previous last gen XPS 9510 with 3050 Ti, but this newest gen with 4070 is really great... but I don't think it is worth spending that much more for a better GPU, when I don't play video games all that often and I also have an eGPU for beefier atationary performance.
When I'm on the go I don't need as much performance.
I am sad if this is one of the best windows laptops. I had one in the past and it was a pain to install graphics drivers and became more problematic the longer I had it. It became practically useless after the warranty ended. The worst thing was the boot-up glitch that posted a TPM error, that wasn't included with my model, that never resolved after multiple bios updates.
I have this issue with my XPS15 9550 for 6 years and I thought of giving the XPS 17 9730 with 4070 a try, it blue screened within the month of me not updating anything and it just had a motherboard change last week because of a BIOS flash fail…..
@@breaddough-vk8gf Not sure how having to decide between outdated official Dell Nvida drivers that crashed games when trying to play new-for-the-time games or New Nvidia-direct drivers to attempt to play games on release, which caused the XPS to BSOD during regular usage my fault, but go off king. Also, not sure how getting a BIOS error 3 years after purchase for not having something that was never included with my XPS my fault as well, but sure, blame me and not Dell. Shame on me for expecting a $2K PC from a multi-billion dollar company to work with minimal hassle! :P
I have the 2022 version. For those of you that are in university, don’t get this for the battery life. It’ll last about five hours. About three hours when the screen brightness is at 100%. And you’ll be doing that a lot if you find yourself in well lit classrooms or in places with outside lighting coming in from windows. Keyboard is great, trackpad is great, and it is quite a looker especially with a dbrand skin.
Hey great video, but would I really like to see a video about the Swift X SFX14-71G-71A3 Notebook how it would perform and whether it is good for students daily usage
I have a feeling that XPS 15 would benefit more from P series processors.
Also recently I got a offer from dell for my existing Dell XPS, they offered me 64gb ram and 4Tb SSD upgrade for a just a little over 300 dollars.
The 4060 gpu also has 8gb vram. I'd go for that one instead, as it should also conserve a tiny bit more of battery life. Won't be as powerful, of course, but with throttling, I doubt you could tell the difference between the two in daily use and gaming. Only place you'd notice the difference is in gpu intensive loads and rendering.
Should it really help all that much? I mean ideally you’re not using the dGPU at all unless under load, at which point it’s a question of if it can get the work done faster than the battery life hit of the better part.
The thing is the XPS 15 over the years has never been able to sustain its performance over a lengthy period of time. Thermals/Cooling have always been bad on it and I don't see Dell ever changing that unless they do a serious redesign of the chassis.
I had the XPS 15 with a 7th gen i5 quad core and a GTX 1050. That thing got as hot as the sun even playing 10 year old games and would throttle constantly.
@@breaddough-vk8gf Most of the upvoted comments here are about how poor the thermals are on this lol. I didn't buy it specifically for "Gaming", I was casually gaming on it a few hours on the weekend.
I also wasn't playing modern AAA stuff on it. I was playing casual older titles 10+ years old that would easily run on that hardware. Dell had very strict throttle limits on my XPS where it would downclock the CPU when it was even in the 80s if the GPU was pushed at the same time.
The ASUS G14 is smaller, lighter, and can actually sustain its performance because it's cooled better with more heat sinks and much louder fans. The Lenovo Slim isn't much heavier than an XPS and can also sustain its performance with decent temps.
Dell prioritizes aesthetics/quietness over maximum performance. That's fine for people like you and your workflow, but it doesn't change the fact that it can't sustain its performance over a lengthy period of time and it struggles to cool the hardware inside it when pushed hard.
I'm glad your happy with yours and maybe thermals have improved compared to my older model, but it doesn't change the fact that plenty of others have a differing opinion than yours on the XPS line thermals just by reading these comments..
Fact is there are laptops around the size of an XPS now that can perform much better when the CPU/GPU are being pushed to the maximum.
The Asus G14 is smaller than the XPS, under 4 lbs, and can sustain its performance under load.
Even Razer has had laptops the same size/form factor as the XPS that have better performance/thermals.
I get why people love the XPS. Its build quality is top notch, good keyboard, great screen, small, compact, etc.
That doesn't change the fact that the thermals are garbage on it and it struggles to sustain performance when pushed hard.
Some people like you don't care about that, but plenty of others like me and others in this thread do care though.
@@breaddough-vk8gf All caps? Just chill man. I get your team XPS in every way and that's fine.
It's ok if people have differing opinions about things but I'm also not going to keep arguing about it lol.
Plenty on this comment section have stated pretty much the same thing I have said about the thermals.
Either way, I hope you enjoy your XPS and glad it works for you.
@@breaddough-vk8gf Uh why are you even still replying to me? I said go enjoy your XPS and be happy with it and I'm not debating this anymore.
Is it really worth having any form of resentment towards a stranger online who has a differing opinion of a laptop than you?
You think the XPS performs well and doesn't throttle under your workflow.
I think it throttles easily and is a poor choice for many people that need a laptop with a high end CPU/dedicated GPU for demanding tasks.
Differing opinions that aren't going to change. The end.
Can you hook up *2* power chargers to the two USB4 sockets to double charge rate? :)
Amazing job, im sure it would be a successful range with possibility for a game to play them with
Would be cool for a comparison between the framework 16 or xps 15. Currently undecided (will use it for Linux)
I can say with my personal experience with the FrameWork 13 coming from an XPS 13 that the FrameWork has way better thermal management.
Also the XPS' hinges, fan bearing, display coating quality is super disappointing. All issues Dell seems to not care about fixing in newer generations of laptops.
For the FrameWork I would say the touchpad is worse but then again everything that is improved over generations can be easily upgraded.
Loving the FrameWork so far, can't wait to order the 16 inch model.
I'll also say I used an XPS 13 for Linux a while back buying the developer's edition thinking there might be better support. I was wrong. Not only was the battery drain awful due to the hardware trying to keep the network and Bluetooth on even when asleep, it also didn't come with the bios configured properly. This is just all the issues it had running Linux...
I have the current gen xps 15, and had most of the previous gens as well. I can wholeheartedly advice against getting an xps 15 if you will be daily driving linux. From intermittent touchpad delay, to terrible battery usage, to spotty wifi and bluetooth issues. And oh yeah, the subwoofers don't work either in Linux.
Funny how the webcam never got a proper comparison
I still have a xps 15 9550 from like 2016.. the 4K touchscreen is still amazing to this day.. I’d recommend buying one for cheap to anyone that needs a quality laptop for everyday use.
It would be nice if when they are going over the chargers for the laptop reviews if the laptop charger follows the USB PD specifications. It would give me and others the piece of mind that a replacement charger can be bought without paying the the first party tax. From what I have had to look into for other laptops Dell and Lenovo do not follow the USB PD specification for their 130w chargers.
I bought a used M2 Pro Macbook Pro with 16GB of RAM and the extra ports for about $1700. This was my first Apple product, and it was worth it imo. Definitely don't avoid used current gen laptops if you can find them.
@@breaddough-vk8gf they aren't great, but neither are most tech companies
@@breaddough-vk8gf all purchases require weighing pros and cons. I don't agree with apple's policies, but many major computer brands (dell, HP, Lenovo) have been moving toward the same model. Very few budget- mid range computers allow you to upgrade in any way that is significant. I'm not going to buy a plastic chassis gaming computer with a 12lb weight for a daily driver. I also don't need more than 16gb in a laptop, personally (I have a 128Gb desktop workstation and at my job I have access to a supercomputer)
MacOS is fine. I'm not buying a laptop to game. I'm buying it for programming and productivity. It's not as good as Linux, although it doesn't have hardware compatibility issues like linux, but imo it is better than Windows. Battery life is impeccable and the screen is amazing. I like the keyboard and have gotten used to the functionality of the shortcuts such that it doesn't bother me anymore (other than a dedicated delete key)
You have to weigh everything when you make a purchase. There wasn't a better option for me, and I personally don't think many people would feel differently.
Apple is a sleezy company, but so are the other major manufacturers. Lenovo was my preferred brand previously, but their quality doesn't hold up unless you go for the highest end. If you aren't in the highest end there can be hardware compatibility issues with Linux. I need unix for my work. I wasn't going to bother wasting time trying to make Linux compatible and I've not had a single issue with compatibility on MacOS (for my use case)
The battery life is the reason I went MacBook Pro rather than Dell. I really, really wish intel would invest in a truly power efficient architecture for high end laptops. Windows laptops just can’t compete with Apple. I routinely get 12 - 15 hours of screen on time from my 16” MacBook Pro with the display above half brightness.
Make a video of a comparison between consumer & business laptops? (any config or brand)
Windows laptop track pads have come a long way. I got a 15" Omen with 9th Gen i7 and 1660ti for way cheap. I expected the worst and actually found the track pad enjoyable to use. Gestures and two finger motions work really well. I disabled the setting where you can't use the keyboard and the trackpad at the same time so I can jank game if I want lol
Would love to see Alex’s take on new Alienware lineup of m16/x16
It was on my shortlist.
But I went for the Zephyrus M16 instead.
Same but blade 16. 1000 nits miniLED trumped ~400-500 nits OLED. Also wanted a USB a port for my mouse.
how is the click on the trackpad, is it the same experience as on a macbook pro? can it click equally on through out the trackpad including the top corners?
I’d love to see a comparison between the HP Envy 15.6” and the Zenbook 14 OLED. I went with the Zenbook and I love it, but it was a bit of a difficult choice for a while. I’d be curious to see which one Alex prefers.
Same here
Depending on what you're actually displaying on it, the OLED will certainly be one factor for the lousy battery life.
However - Dell should've just used AMD or at least waited for Meteor Lake. I'm a little tired of complaints about battery life when people still buy Intel CPUs as if there were no alternatives.
A lower resolution screen with an AMD chip would likely improve the battery life a good bit.
Personally, I wanna see Dell make a Windows on ARM XPS 15/17.
@@levygaming3133 Probably a bad idea given that Windows just isn't that good on ARM.
@@breaddough-vk8gf Chromium and Office are great on ARM? How's the battery life on WinARM?
@@breaddough-vk8gf I don't think the battery life is so much about the Intel, it's the 4K OLED screen that's the bad idea.
14:27 So bad webcam quality is perfectly acceptable just because it doesn't have a notch???
since i've been milling and turning alot in cnc machines i know for a fact, this milling pattern doesn't take long at all.. and since this is aluminium its cutting freaking fast, this whole backplate just that side would probably take under a minute in full speed with 3-4 tool changes included.
I bought one a week ago lol without seeing the review. Well, it's pretty great, I can tell you that. I really didn't need GPU power but it came with the 4050. I immediately erased Windows and installed Linux on it. Everything worked out of the box. No issues with the trackpad or Wifi. For the power consumption you want to install TLP which dramatically improves your battery life and usage. Apart from that, the speakers don't sound great at all but that is because Dell most likely installs something proprietary for Windows to make them sound good. Not something that bothers me, tbh although it would be nice to have a solution for that.
My main criteria for buying it was:
- good keyboard
- good trackpad
- good screen
- linux support
And I got what I wanted so I'm happy.
I own this laptop and I adore it. The webcam is trash versus the macbook, but no notch and Windows Hello is a pure win. I donøt care about battery life I have a dock at work and a dock at home for 3 display setup so I never use it on the go, and when i do I usually use it for 2-3 hours which it does not problem, lots more on powersaver.
I wrapped mine in dbrand skin and it's so awesome in all black carbon look, super professional. The OLED is amazing, the speakers are superb and the microphone array is quite usable. I got it with the 4060, no need for 4070 G-pute for office use (webdev etc.) but the RTX technology for the eye-contact feature on Nvidia broadcast is sooo cool! I can sit and code while during meetings and people thing I'm super attentive because it looks like I'm making eye contact with the camera. WIN!
Maybe I am looking in the wrong [places, but the i7 13700H with 32GB RAM and 8GB 4070 is $3200 USD everywhere I look. So $300 less than the MBP, not $1000 less.
Something that isn't really talked about is that the SD Card slot is UHS II I believe. At least I get upwards of 150-200MB on my 9510 (depending on the SD Card)
I'm keeping tab on this one for a potential buy in 2-3 months, but the thing that I'm concerned the most is the OLED burn-in, I would use mine primarily for software development, would the OLED be a potential issue ? Sad that this year they got rid of the 4k option.
Not to be rude but why would you want a 4k screen option? I use my computer for both gaming and productivity (from standard office applications to video editing, rendering and programming) and don’t really ever think the resolution of a screen is a limitation.
@@henryfield2153 For the XPS usually they come with 3.5 Oled or 4K IPS (for the 9500, 9510 and 9520), and I want the 4k option because it's IPS so I wouldn't have to worry about burn-in, and also a higher resolution gives you so much more screen real estate (i.e. more lines of codes, more content while web browsing,...), and compared to a 1080p screen it's night and day, also realistically 4k on a 15inch laptop is pretty overkill (I prefer 1440p) but those were the only options Dell has been providing for years, and I just don't want to deal with the hassles of having an Oled display so 4k is my preferred option.
@@henryfield21534K video playback, whether it’s your own videos for creator reasons, or 4K movie streaming from the likes of Netflix.
Also, Dell likes to pretend that 1440p doesn’t exist when it comes to the XPS line (even though that’s probably the happy medium here) so your only two options are the 4K screen they try to upsell you on with better brightness and whatever, or the budget base spec minimum brightness 300 nits if that 1080p screen that Dell is certainly skimping on. That’s why.
Would love to see a showdown between the base XPS 15 and the MacBook Air 15-inch. There isn't perfect overlap, but odds are that many people will cross-shop these two!
The main issue with the MacBook is it is so expensive. Add on to the base cost you also have to buy adapters for SD cards and am ethernet cable
@@williamshakespeare9815 It's not necessarily more expensive for what you're getting. That and many people don't need Ethernet or SD card readers, especially in an era with Wi-Fi-equipped cameras.
RE Battery Life: I recently bought a 2022 XPS 17 and get 1.5 hours of battery in full tilt power mode; about 4 hours in battery saver, under Kubuntu. This is replacing my 2016 Asus Zenbook UX324. I'm not much of a gamer, but going from Intel 620 graphics to the 3050 in my Dell is night-and-day! If I ever get good enough at any game, I'll consider an eGPU, but it's really not an issue I even notice.
I just wish I could get it Hackintoshing.
What's the subpixel layout in regard to text clarity? Or is that just a QD-OLED thing...
Why are we calling this the best laptop? how much does the diamond cut edge weigh into that? thermals appear to be a nightmare, bad IO, and a zephyrus would give far better performance for a wildly lower price, even with a similar quality display. And when you include the massive amount of bloatware on these devices as well as insane pricing, doesnt seem like a great buy
I was thinking about getting this laptop for school, but the battery life was a complete dealbreaker for me. Instead I went with the Lenovo Slim Pro 7 (the 14 inch AMD version). I'm typing this comment on it now and I'm very happy with this laptop. The XPS is a beautiful machine but what good are looks when it has huge issues with thermals and battery life?
was is battery life doing office tasks with a mix of video watching?
I have an XPS 15 at work. One thing that seems to be a widespread problem is they have garbage audio drivers. I can't use headphones directly plugged in. There's so many undiagnosable problems so I just have a external DAC plugged in to listen to music.
Headphone jack, audio drivers, modern sleep and DWM are just a circle jerk of weird behavior lol they try so hard to make the experience better with driver handling and all their software to the point i think it makes the experience worse.... i have waaaaaaaay less issues with the last 3 PCs i have built lol
Does anyone have any experience on architecture with this laptop? I am currently looking for a good laptop as an architecture students, but I’m not sure if the XPS can run Revit, AutoCAD etc. very well without heating up too much. Would love to hear some experience on that
Haha, framework computer go brrr
Lol
My wallet does not go brrr :(
@@mattgriffin0231if your wallet does not go brr for a framework laptop then it might probably not go brr for a regular laptop with same specs.
If you're cool waiting 3-6 months for it 😅
Until you wait almost a year for the release and then find out they're not supporting Nvidia video cards...
The touchscreen is one of the rare times I agree with Apple. I have a 2022 XPS 15 and I disabled the touchscreen 6 months ago, haven't missed it once.
All what a Touchscreen on a Laptop gets you are ugly fingerprints on the screen.
I just never got the point of this on a Laptop. There's just no benefit to it except for the "uhh look what I can do. Does this make you Mac users feel jealous, yeah?" - no it doesn't.
@@Raja995mh33 Touchscreen is useful on thin and light 13"-14" laptops but 15" or bigger I don't see why you would need a touchscreen especially if the trackpad is big enough like on the MacBooks (the one benefit to getting a touchscreen on a Windows laptop is that they are glossy)
@@Raja995mh33depends, I use mine on my old xps 2in1 all the time. Though 2 in 1s are a different category really.
@@Raja995mh33 Navigation, scrolling, zooming, moving things around... there's many things. Sure everything can obviously be done with a touchpad, but if you learn to use the touchscreen effectively, it can be great addition to normal touchpad.
What is the battery life like for the arc GPU?
I went into buy a XPS 15 the other day and ended up with an ASUS Q530 instead. It has similar specs was marginally cheaper and had a full number pad on the keyboard. Would love to see a review on it to see if my choice was the right one in the long run but so far I like it.
That notch Apple added to their new MacBooks, feels more like a differentiating feature, than a useful one. The webcam on the new MacBooks, slap hard, no cap. But no Face ID. Maybe that would come later. But I don’t foresee Apple removing that Notch anytime soon.
When you look at the terrible webcam quality of the XPS, this alone kinda justifies the notch already. Also the MacBook has a noticeably thinner bezel at the top AND the screen is taller than 16:10 so you don't lose any screen to it, you only gain screen left and right.
For many of us webcam quality is not a deal at all. If you need better you use external anyways to get positioning right and if you just need something it is enough that you are identifiable
Does anyone know if Dell improved the cooling yet? My XPS 15 7590 (from about 2019) is freaking loud even during small workload like browsing...
I have the 2021 version of the XPS 9510, I wish I had Alex's enthusiasm for it. Overall it is a great machine. I'm not a gamer, I just wanted the 15" screen size and did not want to pay mac prices. My only complaint about it, which so many others have reported, the lower left quadrant of the track pad goes dead. Pretty certain this is a hardware issue, no amount of driver updates have done anything to resolve this issue.
are the atrocious bloat maxxaudio drivers still present? did dell address the trackpad double click issue that has been present since the 9500 (3 years ago)?? Will Microsoft ever fix modern standby??? since buying the 9500 for a buttload of $$$ and having a myriad of issues I can't recommend the xps lineup or trust any reviews praising it
You're the one to blame, why are you still using windows??? Bill gates watching everything you do....
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Since Alex’s review is based on complete opinion, here’s MY equally relevant review:
Anybody who has actually used a MBP for more than a few hours will tell you that the notch is basically unnoticeable. I forget it’s even there. Alex’s opinion on the notch being ”stupid” just demonstrates his incredible bias to give Apple credit for anything.
Sure, the XPS is a beautiful piece of tech; but until they get the thermal management and windows overhead figured out, it’s always going to be a 7/10 for me. If I have to take my charger with me to make it through a 4 hour seminar, it completely defeats the purpose of a laptop.
I wonder if Apple sponsored some LTT projects if any opinions would change? I mean, does anybody actually know anyone that uses a Razer Blade laptop? Linus has had 2 die on him now, but yet that laptop is often listed behind the XPS as one of the best you can buy. Not to mention the multitude of WMS and trackpad issues Dell has had.🤔
Source: I have a ‘22 XPS and a 14” MacBook Pro. As a regular consumer I decided for myself, and so should you.
I certainly know someone that actually uses a Razor Blade, or at least I’d like to think I know myself anyways.
My company work laptop is an XPS. It’s a good machine but the trackpad on the unit in my hand is just jumping around, very frustrating. I tried reinstalling drivers, even reinstalling Windows at one point, it still doesn’t work most of the time
Purchased this same Spec XPS15, literally dying while waiting for delivery! Can't wait!
Team at ltt, thank you for putting red arrows on the new graphs that you use. They definitely help when I'm watching at 2x speed. Are you using colour blindness aware palettes though?
Well,, I would love the XPS if it wasn't for the price. Also, Editor pleas overlay freaking counter 😅
The pricing is decent considering it competes in the premium laptop space.
Many use laptops as the main computer by connecting an external monitor to it. Maybe even several. You could also add the following section to your reviews and compare how loud laptops are then. But not simply in decibels, but relative to something people hear on a daily basis. 1, 10, 100 decibels rarely say anything.
When did thin'n'lights become upgradeable? I wonder how much is the $ difference to Macbook if you do minimum RAM and storage and just upgrade yourself?
Also how much more battery you gain by going with lesser GPU or is the optimization so good these days that it does not matter when doing non-gpu intensive tasks?
Slightly confused as to why you ran no productivity/CAD benchmarks on a work-focused laptop. Blender ain't enough
Because it smashes all productivity purposes with a 13700h and a 4070
@@profacecreator3810 Well no.
1) It's a productivity-based laptop, your argument would also apply to the gaming benchmarks which they did anyways.
2) It has a severely limited 4070 with a 50W cap. The laptop suffers under load and thermal throttles itself to death.
3) This whole video feels very sponsored. It might be a good productivity laptop compared to a 2015 chromebook, but it is not compared to others in its pricerange. a laptop with better performance could be had for 1k$ less from the likes of asus or lenovo.
Honestly I still think it's crazy that the entire point of a laptop is portability, but most laptops have such bad battery life you basically *have* to take a charger with you... which drastically reduces its usability. While the Mac is $1K more (and a shitload more here in the UK) as an overall package it seems a better buy.