@@highpiano oh absolutely! I am 100 % sided with non clown show discrete gaming laptops with understated looks. The slim 7 is still my absolute favorite. Great features, awesome value for money. All rounder. I just hope Lenovo continues to innovate and bring something fresh to this space. :)
@@kazmieewould you say the same for razor tho? Although I agree that Lenovo is lacking innovation compared to Asus but they still deliver in terms of quality, price point, and especially their warranty programs are top notch.
If Asus M16 is its rival then Lenovo is doing great job with it's pricing in my country. M16 costs literally twice the price of slim 7i gen 8 here, which makes the latter a total value for money.
It's very frustrating to see Lenovo/Legion only offering a Mini-LED on the $5,000 Legion 9i, especially after they advertised it with the launch of the Gen 7 Slim models last year but never released it.
I think all the manufacturers decided to keep minileds as a super exclusive option in gaming laptops. I mean, is it really necessary to get an i9 and 4080/90 just for a miniled? Its all fixed! Id like to see these guys need to make pc gaming more enticing for the console gamers.
@@kazmiee well there is Lenovo Yoga Pro 9i (16in), which in Europe at the moment is @ 2000€. I think its the cheapest miniled and it only goes up to 4070.
I was able to get the legion pro 5i with the i7-13700HX, 4060, 32 GB DDR5 RAM, and the 240 hertz panel at 500 nits and I only paid $1249. Amazing deal so I couldn't pass it up!
Seriously? That is a cracking good deal! Hope others can take advantage of it as well. Maybe drop in a link here for others to see as well? Thanks for sharing say12033!
Mine is i7 13th gen + 4060. Hell of a beast. Runs all Aaa title in Ultra with ease. Gets very hot must admit but if used with laptop cooler temps reduce a lot. Using this beast since 9 months. ❤🔥
Always love hearing a good story about this bond between man and machine. It is certainly a very capable machine. I am currently testing out the new Asus G16 2024 which also has the 4060 along with the newer ultra processor and the gaming performance is identical. So your machine may be from 2023 but it is still very much in 2024. Hope you continue to enjoy it! What games are you playing on it lately?
@@kazmiee yeah thanks. This machine is indeed special for me as its my first gaming machine. Currently I am playing Doom eternal and Back 4 blood. Playing on ultra settings. Literally juicing all the pulp out🤣
Thank you supboss! Super grateful for ypur interest and for your kind words of encouragement. Yes, it is mosty that. Buy and sell. So it becomes a pretty expensive process considering I am a microscopic channel right now and have no partnerships. But I do hope I get there and get monetized soon to support better hardware and more frequent content :)
I chose the the Legion Slim 7i Gen 8 with i9 and upgraded it to 32 GB RAM and 5 TB (maybe later to 8 TB) SSD. I found that most people don't understand DDR 5 and (maybe) other tech concepts. This machines price / performance ratio is still exceptional. Furthermore: it's "post industrial design" is outstanding to me. It's just a performance beauty.
Love that! Thanks for sharing! I do absolutely agree. In my eyes it still remains to be the most well rounded gaming laptop out there; it has a little bit of everything and little in the way of compromises.. and for such a nice and premium build, it is wild that Lenovo offers it at such a great price.
Just bought this last night, open box from Best Buy here in CT Lenovo - Legion Slim 7i 16" Gaming Laptop WQXGA- Intel Core i9-13900H with 16GB Memory - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 8GB - 1TB SSD - Storm Grey
I bought it late last night, haven't even taken it out of the box, about to do an unboxing . I'll let you know i guess. Honestly it was down to ASUS - ROG Zephyrus M16 I was so DEAD SET ON BUYING THIS.. I was also torn between ASUS - ROG Zephyrus G16 16. So, I was going back and fourth for sometime, until i saw a video on Lenovo. I had no idea they were into gaming, and I just fell in love.. I was either going to do PRO 5, or the Slim that i got. I don't have money for 2K plus. I'd love a 408, 4090 but that's way to much for me. I shop open boxed for my laptop. I think I made a good decision. I did like the feel of the ASUS though. @@kazmiee
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I had the i9/4070 and the device pulls 14w discharge in full screen TH-cam video loop. On idle it can drop under 10w (10hrs just screen/wifi). Your discrete gpu was not inactive when you were checking battery life
@@kazmiee Yes, but i have the 2000p panel. Actually, there is a strange EC bug where sometimes, booting the machine in hybrid-iGPU mode disconnects the data bus for the dGPU (meaning it does not show up in task manager), but it still gets fed power (up to 9W more). When this happened i got similar battery life to what you got. For me the trick was to set it from hybrid-iGPU to hybrid, back to hybrid-iGPU. Actually, I used Lenovo Legion Toolkit to automate this and I get really quite good battery life out of this machine now.
@@regorforgottheirpassword2986 this is a really good tip. Thank you for sharing! Ill try to put it to use in my other legion since I dont have the slim 7i anymore :/
Thank you, it's very good review. Decide to bought slim 7 4060 version rather than 4070 because your video !. And love the device especialy in term of speaker :)
Hi Imanuddin. Grateful for your time and faith in my content! It is most certainly an amazing machine. I hope it treats you well! Looking forward to hearing more about your experiences
There was an insane discout for the lenovo legion pro 7 with the rtx 4070 and intel 13900hx for only 1’846 usd! That's an insane 670 dollar discout (compared to the starting non discounted price)
I liked the review but defending Alienware for its high temps just because it has a 4080 doesn't seem justified. Sure, it has a much higher wattage, but that's the decision of the manufacturer.
Hmm, that is a fair comment. Did not intend on appearing to defend Alienware or seem biased. Just wanted to say that devices can work with different thermal tolerances subject to a myriad of factors to make the device work for the end consumer. But perhaps ill do a deeper dive into the thermals of the Alienware to see how well performance is sustained over a long period of use. Have recently started playing Starfield on it and will log some stats to see how it all works out.
Hi Ali. I just discovered you chanel and the quality of the reviews is very good! I need some help here: I was debating between Legion Slim 7i and Zephyrus M16, both with IPS screen. Coming from a Macbook M1 Pro can't switch to cheap plastic laptop. I'm doing web development and just started working on a video game a month ago so need some graphical juice. Which one would you recommend?
Thank you for your kind words Daniel. I really appreciate it! I am leaning towards the M16.. atleast on an "on paper" kind of technical understanding. Big win for the M16 is having 2 SODIMMs so that you can easily upgrade your ram to 64 if needed. Also, with the third fan and more heat pipes, it offers better thermals which is very important for the long life of the device. I also really like the look of the device with the screen starting from the base of the deck. the keyboard is also REALLY nice on the M16. I believe it might be a bit more expensive compared to the Legion Slim 7, but I think it more than justifies the premium on paper. Sure, it would be thicker compared to the Slim 7 but on the day to day, I believe you wont even notice it. You will lose RGB control on the M16, sure! but honestly, the novelty of per key RGB seems to wear off rather quickly. NOWW.. all that being said, if someone is attempting to move from the apple world to windows, I am usually very happy to recommend the Razer blade (of course, subject to availability of budget); BUT.. NOTHING.. and i mean nothing comes close to the premium build and feel in windows devices to that of the Razer Blade. And at a thickness of 0.67 inches, It feels incredibly slim and solid at the same time, while pushing PS5 levels of power. You dont have to consider the Blade 16.. since that is thicker. The blade 15 still offers a sweet spot in terms of power and portability. Maybe you could also get a good deal on last gen's Blade 17 with a 3070ti.. which offers close to the 4070's performance this year. Hope this helps!
@@kazmieeThanks a lot Ali. Very useful information. Razer Blade 17 inch RTX 3070ti is within my budget. My only concern is that's last gen and I think doesn't support DLSS 3. I was able to test both Legion Slim 7i and M16. Touchpad is okish on both but Legion metal build feels so much better. It feels cold metal and I love that compared to M16 weird alloy of lightest metal (Magnesium) that feels like plastic. I haven't had the chance to put my hands on a Blade and I don't know if it's worth overpaying for 2023 model. Some people in Lenovo Legion Discord said that Razer Blade have bigger QC issues compared to Lenovo Legion.
Technicali, great work as always! How about reviewing lenevos or other brands with low end gpu's , or other laptops that are meant for productivity portability/ battery life? Just curious, thanks
Heyy! Thank you for your support! That is a great suggestion and it is actually my consideration for the next year. I just want to make sure I understand what good looks like with the high end performance stuff before getting into the rest just so I can offer better comparisons and advice in terms of overall value :)
wow, insane small difference between 4060 and 4070. I think Nvidia is intentionally handicaping the 4070 by limiting it to 100W so the 4070TI will make sense when they release it. However, I struggle to understand overall those TimeSpy Scores. After reapplying liquid metal on CPU + thermal paste on my GPU+VRMs, I have a Graphics Score of 10902 with an ***RTX3070*** (2.5yo ROG). The CPU score is way lower, 8721, the "old" Ryzen 7 5800H can't really keep up, despite having a more linear graph ( runs above 4Ghz - up to 4.4 ) constantly, I see this 13700H dips quite often below 4Ghz which is not ideal. I was thinking of an upgrade if there's a good offer on Black Friday because this ROG gives me random freezes sometimes, but given how little performance improvment there is, I think I'll keep it for 1 more year or so given they're not really that frequent on cable, more on battery. Good review!
I was surprised as well. But then hardware specs dont have much setting them apart. Overall I think good decision to have the 4060 with 8 gigs of vram. 6 is just not sufficient anymore. Even 8 is become obsolete now. Good to see you're squeezing out the full potential out of your ROG machine. I am thinking to repaste my Razer 15 with the 3070 as well soon with liquid metal. Ill probably do a deeper check into the frequency stats as well. I miss the good old days when all cores were made equal. I dont even see alot of battery/energy saving benefits of the E cores. Makes it a little wierd to evaluate the CPU as a package. :/
This generation of mobile gpus is just trash unless you get a 4080 or 4090. You can get a 4050 that runs at _140W_ . That's so dumb, when it goes past like 105W or 110W it just wastes energy with NO performance gain. The only good thing about this generation (on lower end models) is frame generation and the extra vram on 4050 and 4060. They done the 4070 dirty. It should have had 10-12GB to make it look HALFWAY decent
Let me tell you this. I have A legion 5 pro with a 3070 that goes up to 150 watts and a 5800h yet my timespy scores were 12,460 for the Graphics and 10,200 for the CPU. It seems like you aren't utilizing your hardware properly.
@@Stardomplay hmm, well, If that 3070 really is going up to 150w, that could tip the scales for a favorable timespy score. In this device, TGP barely reached 90w. Not sure how I can utilize the hardware better. Happy to take any advice. :)
@@Stardomplay not really sure how you're getting 150W out of that RTX 3070. Even lenovo mentions a cap on 140W, that with Dynamic boost. In stress tests on a full CPU load (45W) this GPU doesn't reach more than 125W. In gaming, where the CPU is not 100% used ( so ~ 35-36W) it can go up to 130-135W. There's really not a way to "use the hardware better" unless you decide to go into overclocking, which gives minimal performance improvments in relation to the temps / power. I, for one, don't really see a point of overclocking, other than increasing results for benchmarks....fps in games is slightly better, but it doesn't make a difference ( if the game is not playable, it won't be playable with OC ). Thanks for sharing tho!
Hmm, i would have been honestly super interested if Amd had put out their Radeon 7000 mobile GPUs. I have only seen the 7600M so far and am looking for atleast a 7700M. Ill pick it up for sure if we see a good Ryzen Radeon combo!
Can I ask what charger you purchased for USB-C charging. I will be using this laptop on the go, and for me the chunky 230w charger is just too big for portability. I read some conflicting things online, and I'm worried buying the wrong charger for it. And which port do you use for charging?
Thank you for your question. I use a 135w lenovo charger which is non GAN so can still be a bit larger than I'd like. www.lenovo.com/ca/en/p/accessories-and-software/chargers-and-batteries/chargers/4x21h27800. There is the port on the left labelled 'usb pd' where the charge is intended to go through. But you also have TB4 port which can be used as well. I have used GAN based 100w chargers before ( spigen / Anker ) and they seem to work just fine :) . Though these chargers won't support gaming. Office work, light video editing, browsing, the normal stuff but not gaming :)
I got the white version of legion 7 and it's so beautiful but not for some people (some of my friends preder the black one), and i got the 3.2k screen because that's the one available in my country and i can assure if you playing triple a game it's the best option in the price range
Oh my gawwwd. You have to share pictures! Where did you get it from? I think the slim 7 in white would be such a thing of beauty. 3.2k is still better than 4k. Also id say even if you play non native at 1600P, you should get great performance advantages and suffer very little deterioration in quality. But nice man. Enjoy!
That is true! They had "stingray" white I think in Gen 6 devices there but no option so far for white here in Legions.. atleast as far as I can see. Hope they can bring it here soon! Hope the AMD machine is treating you well too. How is the battery life btw? Any better than my experience?
Haha really? Nice! I dont know many people who make use of that. We have just the lenovo T series at the office and I dont think I have ever seen anyone use it.
@@kazmiee if you haven't then i will recommend to try for few days, so many times i wishes to switch to other laptop but still stuck with thinkpad for this reason. I don't have to once leave my finger from keyboard to use the trackpad. Scrolling up down left right, use the index finger for Pointer and both thumb for left and right click. Seamless working. Its kind of addicting if you ask me.
Well, you will pay a premium with the Slim 7 and get a 500 nits display instead of 300, get per key RGB, a premium build and feel, obviously a thinner build as well which feels nice, you get biometric login. PERSONALLY, I'd prefer the Slim 7 since I feel it is worth the premium BUTT.. if for example your use case is to edit large and long 4k videos, then with the 5i you can install 64 gigs but with the slim 7, the options are limited. For the casual gamer, who wants a nice OVERALL laptop for general productivity and gaming, the Slim 7 should be perfect. Hope that helps!
@@kazmiee All i want its an overall laptop for casual gaming , i don't mind battery and portability and i dont want Desktop , and all 5/7 Slim AMD comes at similar price with 4060 unless the 5 Pro Rayzen 7945HX its a 180 £ more and and i think its a bit stronger for RTX 4060 but comes with 500 nits too , also considering Asus Strix 16/17 but 2-300£ more but i am scared about backlight and coil wine i heard they have , so Legion Slim 7 will might be my bet within 1500-1600 £ budget ,and I hope will get soon again at 1200 £ ,thank you!
in my opinion i understand the point of legion needing to inovate to stay ahead but the thing is that this laptop in its basic form is better or very comparable to other laptops that cost literally like a 1000 us more on normal price at least talking about the m16 or the x16 which are better but not that much better for their price.
For sure, the Legion Slim 7 has always been extremely well rounded on all fronts including value for money. Still one of the easiest low risk gaming laptops to recommend. It is actually pretty amazing how much quality Legion offers at such a great price
Yes, battery life of AMD version is untouchable for Intel, with same kind of workload discharge rate is floating around 12-15w which translates into 7hrs and close to 8 for simple web browsing in quiet mode, LEDs off and screen at 40-50%. The only problem is that AMD also got bunch of annoying bugs and issues ( that are not present in this Intel powered version) and after weeks of fighting with their seemingly non existing support it looks like lenovo is unable on just unwilling to fix them. So Intel got bad battery life and AMD got issues, pick your poison )
Haha, I hear that, and I think people would be happy to pick "reliable but power hungry" over "unreliable but efficient". To AMD's credit, they have been hard at work and have introduced many many driver updates and I have personally seen many issues go away with my Legion 7 gen 7 you with the Ryzen 6800H and Radeon 6700M. It seems to be pretty stable now but initially I had to experiment quite a bit with drivers and updates. I was testing out the Corsair A1600 last week which is an all AMD machine and that had a few annoying quirks as well for which I had to mess around before getting it stable. So one probably needs to be patient and know their way a bit around computers to deal with AMD machines. Which makes me sad
@kazmiee I'm sending it back. My display flickers badly every 30-60 seconds. I contacted support and they said they'll send a replacement. Sounded great. Today I got an email saying the replacement will arrive in late May. I ordered this laptop in November! No shot. Going to tell them to keep the replacement and give me a refund. I really loved the Slim 7 after doing a LOT of research. It checked all the boxes I was looking for. Just wasn't in the cards for me. I was coming from a macbook air that lasted me 10 years of daily use. There really is no equal to Apple's build quality. Will probably just get a macbook pro.
Hey loved the video I’m having a bit of trouble choosing between the Lenovo legion slim 7i vs the hp omen transcend 16 My main use case is going to be architecture related software’s.
Thank you for the question! Though I have not had hands on experience on the Transcend and I intend to soon, here is my take: Things in Favor of the Transcend: - Ceramic white; it is a unique color in the gaming laptop space - 2 RAM Sodimms - You can take it up to 64 gigs to support massive architecture / 3d projects (Legion Slim only has only one sodimm slot) - Can be configured with a miniled option so HDR content takes a big leap - HX series intel CPUs (so 24 cores) providing desktop grade processing to support large scale rendering int your architecture projects - Facial login using windows hello (Legion has fingerprint login) Things in favor of the Legion slim 7 - overall better user-friendly experience through the Lenovo vantage software (+ keyboard shortcuts) - Slightly lighter in weight - Close to 2 kilos instead of 2.3 in the Transcend - Can be configured with a higher resolution display (3000 x 2000 px) though no mini led - 2 SSD slots for easy storage upgrade - Transcend just has one slot - Keypad is available if you're crunching in numbers - Keyboard that is broadly accepted to feel premium to type on - also, does not have the WASD keys that are translucent - I personally dont like laptops trying to look too 'gamer-esque' - SD Card slot With the HX series CPUs and upgradeable RAM, feels like the Transcend can be a better buddy for architecture work (I mean you can still have the Legion bought in the 32gig RAM configuration from the start which can be sufficient) - But overall as a general laptop to cover most use cases, perhaps the Legion is better. I think the HX series CPU can play the major deciding factor. Hope that helps!
@@kazmieewow THANKS A TON FOR THE QUICK REPLY I really appreciate u spending your time to help me out. Just one more query IF the hx processor is the determining part Would going for the Lenovo legion pro 5i for the same configurations as your Lenovo legion pro 7i make sense?
The lenovo slim 7 AMD is amazing, I tried to purchase it but the delivery estimated wait time is until May 4th, I can't wait that long, what would you recommend. thannks
Oh man.. That delivery date is insane! I am sorry to hear that. Naturally the Slim 7 holds a good special place in the market. My best alternative would be the Asus M16 but it might be a bit expensive (which I dont understand why) But you will get better heat management with it as well and I'd say an overall better experience too (MINUS the RG keyboard) - You could also consider the G16 if that fits the bill though it becomes a bit flashy for me personally. In similar dimensions, build and personality, The MSI stealth 15 or 16 also comes to mind. The Stealth 15 actually has an OLED as well though naturally those can be expensive too. For thin and powerful though, look no further than the Alienware X16. Though It works best with a 4080 if you have the budget. There is also an HP Omen transcend which I have heard great things about but have not used it yet. BTW< if you dont mind me asking; what is your location? Feels strange that Legion does not have good reach any where in the world. If you can find the older Gen 7 Legion 7 with a 3070ti or even the 6700M, that will be awesome
Hi, I want to Upgrade the RAM on this laptop. Can you please suggest some compatible RAM specification for this laptop, something that complements the Soldered RAM ?
You should be fine with DDR5 5200MHz 1Rx8. Anything over that speed would still work but that extra speed may not be useable. Hope this helps. You should be able to slot in a single 32 gig stick in there as well
One more question, in slim core i7, rtx 4060. If i am only using adobe Acrobat pdf reader and one note app. How much would be the battery backup with about 50% brightness?
Well, apparently I am told that my test may have been done with dGPU still drawing power. If you switch it off from the Nvidia CP, you should get even 6 hours. Unfortunately I no longer have the device to test it out with evidence
The 2022 Legion 7 for me is an awesome device and holds even more value to me after the 2023 Gen 8 Legion 7 had removed a few key features. The 3070ti should slightly outperform the 4060 but wont have frame generation (which is perfectly fine for me since FG makes quality compromises in games) The Slim 7 with the 4060 will obviously be slimmer and lighter but the 2022 Legion 7 is just an overall much MUCH nicer machine to own. Hope that helps!
Someone mentioned here that when I selected i-GPU mode only from the Vantage software, it may not have made the change correctly in the Nvidia control panel. Even when I rechecked the logs, I see average GPU power of 2Ws not twenty. just 2. But since I no longer have the device. I am unable to re-do the test. ill be sure to recheck from NCP next time and perhaps perform the test twice.
@@kazmiee I just ordered the 4060 i7 1tb with 4 years of warranty and accidental damage protection, it came to $2500 after tax but we pay 15% here in ns. I’m not 100% sold on it yet. Would you recommend a different laptop for the price?
@@servinuup49 what other options did you have in mind? I have never been to NS - would you say that the availability of laptops is any different there?. Though you have a good warranty coverage, Id say you are almost paying 4070 money for a 4060 - that is my reaction for now :/
so do you think i should buy the legion 7i gen 8(2023) or not? i also needed for college, i'm an engineering student so i need a powerful laptop, could it be good for both gaming and work?
@@kazmiee I am confused between this model with i9 13900H vs Asus rog strix g17 with Ryzen 9 7845HX. Both 32 GB ram, with Rtx 4070 and 1tbssd and Rtx 4050 and 3tb ssd respectively. Cost for both is 2000 USD. which one is better value for the price in terms of perfomance, upgrade and in general?
@@shano494 well, the slim 7 gen 8 is an all rounder for me, for its dimensions, it provides adequate power for casual gaming AAA titles and also has a decent processor to support engineering work (I am guessing using autocad). Overall it is usually a safe choice with great value for money as well. The only limitation is not being able to properly upgrade ram dual channel mode. Let me know if you have any further questions!
It should be able to handle it just fine. With the pro 5i you will get a display that is not as bright BUT.. you will get one extra SODIMM slot to upgrade your ram later. But honestly, if for example you're long COD matches like 5 hours straight, though it will handle it just fine, the 5i might give you SLIGHTLY more comfort on the keyboard deck / wrist areas just because it has a bigger body and will be able to dissipate heat a bit more efficiently. But I'd think the difference may not be too noticeable. ALSO, if your based in a geo that generally has a warmer climate, perhaps there the 5i might prove to be slightly more useful. Otherwise, the SLIM 7 is a pretty great machine. It feels way more premium and has a biometric login as well
I think it is a little more refined. More powerful and more performance even with the 4060. The screen has a higher refresh rate. The brushed aluminum band around the sides makes it feel more premium. Slightly better thermal design. But yes, it isn't a substantial jump i'd say. No innovation
@@kazmiee how is your last year gen slim 7 holding up when it comes to gaming? i had one coming this week that i bought for $1086cad including taxes but not sure if i should replace it with the 4060 model and add another $400cad
@@dwilfred923 the 6800s was pretty decent for gaming actually. The 4060 might get you maybe 5-15% more FPS depending on the game. IMO, that difference may not even be that noticeable if you're a casual gamer. I would like to think I am a casual gamer so getting 80 fps instead of 70 really does not make a big difference to my gaming experience. We might be seeing Ti variants in laptops in a few months or who knows! 5000 series nvidias soon. So i was you, i would be okay to sit back for a bit and take advantage of what is to come next year. But then again, Id like to think I am a patient person. :)
@@dj_iceman_31 i would lean more towards the legion for now personally. If I was looking for something less bulky and more portable though, i would pick the slim 7. I have had omen machines twice. They did not have anything wrong with them to be honest, even thermals were decent but nothing special about them either. Its just that Legions are generally better invested in their gaming laptops and even if both devices are hardware wise equal i would pick legion because they just offer a mose friendly experience. :)
Hey man, I really need your advice or anyone who's reading this comment. I have been looking to buy a gaming laptop for almost a year now and I have now reached a point where I'm looking at the Legion 5 pro from 2021 and the zephyrus g15 from 2022. Both have a 3060 but the legion has a full powered 130W one and the Zephyrus has a 120W one. The zephyrus is a light weight option for sure but I have seen users saying that it does have some screen tearing and stuttering issues, mainly cuz it does not have G-sync. I dont know if that is the main reason but that is as far as I know. I'm not much into content creation. I am a casual guy who wants to game smoothly without any problems that'll last me a really long time. Please give me some good advice here, I'm going paranoid💀
Hey Govind, thank you for your quesrion. Where are you based and what is your budget? Any chance you can accomodate a device with an RTX 4060 or Radeon 6800S ? I only ask because a 3060 would have 6 gigs or Vram and since you are seeking a device that would last you some time, id advise to get something with atleast 8 gigs of vram. Although, now that I think about it, if the savings are nice with the 3060 and you primarily intend to play at 1080p and with medium to high graphic presets, perhaps it would still treat you well. Generally speaking, from what I have heard, when it comes to thermals from that time, Legions would be a better choice compared to the ROG. I do still maintain, you wont find a noticeable difference between 120w and 130w TGP :/ . All just my opinions. Others are also free to share here. Hope you get your device soon so that you can get to some gaming. :)
@@kazmiee Hey! I'm from India and I'd say 1200$ is around the max that my budget can allow. The Legion, after discounts and an exchange offer cost around 1178$. The zephyrus costs around 1200$ on the dot with the exact price reduction options. Primarily I'm leaning more towards the legion cuz of that 16" screen with that insane brigthness and a good colour gamet. But since its a 2021 model, I'm having second thoughts about its reliability over the coming years. There is a 4060 option here, from the Lenovo LOQ series, but its got an average 15.6 inch screen with average colour gamet with ok brightness but it costs around a 1046$ only. And the model I'm looking at doesn't have any RGB keyboard option. Well I'd like to have some level of RGB to spicen up my dull life so that's why😅. It is an amazing deal no joke but its the only 4060 option at that budget constraint. I am not looking much into content creation but I'd like to have a good screen to watch movies, videos and what not while also game quite a bit. Most games would run at 1440p without much problems in the Legion right? That's what I have seen till now and I hope it is the case with the zephyrus too. I wouldn't mind playing in 1080p with descent settings cuz it would be my first ever gaming laptop. So I would love to know if I wont end having an regrets after buying.
In the case of mini-led, the legion introduction it recently on their “9i” products. Yes there is a legion 9i now that has a mini-led screen goes to a brightness of 1200 nits kinda similar to their yoga pro 9i 😅
I am just glad the 9i exists! Even for 6-8 months, did not feel right to label the 7 as their flagship. I think missed sales for Legion to not have introduced it earlier. Tech enthusiasts may have already made their spending on miniled options. Oh well, excited to see a "first" with integrated liquid cooling. I see Legion as an innovative brand and hope they can continue with that in the future.
@@kazmiee oh wow that's great. I was little worried because every other review on this unit was weighing the laptop at 2.2kg despite Lenovo claiming a less then 2kg weight.
The Lenovo website had a deal of a discount close to 30pc or something. I feel that their website is usually the best place to get a good deal on Legion devices
@@aayushrijal9077 there is a probably a sale nearby to fit that budget. Maybe find someone with a perkopolis account. I think they will offer additional discounts on Lenovo. Perhaps a CPA friend?
Hey i have an hp omen which i brought recently the processor is Amd 6800H with Nvidia 3070 Ti should i upgrade from my omen to slim 7i the i9 with rtx 4060 one ?
From what I understand, the performance difference will be negligible except where you can use frame generation and newer DLSS version. But even so, id say, not worth the jump. Infact, id say, the 3070ti would even outperform the 4060. Like there is even a marginal difference between the 3070ti and 4070. The 6800H i believe is plenty as well and more energy efficient as well. IF howcever your omen has a 1080p display and you want to move to QHD+ or maybe the webcam / keyboard is not great.. maybe it could be worth exploring. But if I was you, I would not currently update till it is for a 4080 device. Just my thought. Hope that is helpful!
@@kazmieeYou are generally correct although the single core performance of the 6800h was already underwhelming when it launched and it's already a bottleneck in most modern games.
@@Stardomplay hmmm, well, I have my Legion 7 with the 6800H and I have not many such experiences. The GPUs tend to make the real difference when it comes to games. Other than that. All up to you, if there are more CPU bound games in your library, you can explore for sure, but I would sincerely advise to at least get a 4070. I mean, if you're going to do it, do it proper is all I'm saying. :)
@@kazmiee No I was not, My one sucks when I sit to work it lasts only half an hour, and cries out loud for help using fans. Anyways this video was recommended in my homescreen.
Yeah the numpad is the only gripe i have with it, for the vast majority it will be useless and an uncentered keyboard and trackpad are annoying as hell
I hear you! Maybe legion is following some market research where target customers are rating the numpad as a high priority. Getting rid of it would REALLY improve the looks of it as well.
Hahahah. That is fair. Oh man, id love to put out higher quality videos. Waiting to get some sort of monetization to get proper equipment. This phone can only do so much to capture all these videos.
Haha, I can certainly relate as well with a 3070 in my prior Razer Blade 15. But at least you should find comfort in having 256 bits memory bus and 8 gigs of VRAM :)
@@kazmiee honesty if there was a simple way to have an external gpu like an external hard drive I would never have to think about upgrading laptops. The full aluminum chassis of the legion series and the 2k screen is just perfect
However, ROG still has that external GPU option obviously proprietary. But even with thunderbolt, the Razer eGPU is your best bet. It can still give you what you are looking for but you won't get the absolute full potential out of it. I know the Razer EGPU (core) can go on 50 PC discount once or twice a year
www.lenovo.com/ca/en/p/laptops/legion-laptops/legion-slim-series-laptops/lenovo-legion-slim-7i-gen-8-(16-inch-intel)/len101g0028 Apologies for the late response!
I have not gotten my hands on the Omen.. But if it is cheaper by comparison, You can definitely consider it. I mean both in terms of their engineering are pretty standard, you do get 2 SODIMMs for RAM but just 1 slot for your SSD, however in the Legion you get 1 SODIMM for RAM and 2 slots for your SSD. So up to you where you want to swing. ALSO, the Legion has a nicer display, both are 240 hz, but the legion has a more modern 16:10 aspect ratio and goes up to 500 nits. as a result, I personally think it is better looking as well. For me, i would pick the Legion 7, it is just a nice well rounded device, but you wont get an HX CPU in there. personally, I dont have any particular use case for the HX CPU. As a casual gamer, even a 13th gen i5 would be okay since MOST games tend to be more GPU bound. Anyway, hope that helps! let me know what you finally decide on!
@@kazmiee hey i will be buyong it in a week now lenovo has some qeitd combination of i9 13900h with 4060 should i go with it ? i mean i am getting i7 13700h 4060 for a 50$ diff but the thing is i am worried about i9 bottlenecking withva 4060 what are your thoughts
@@namanrustagi135 for the purpose of gaming, the i7 will be more than enough. The 13900H will give you 5.4ghz of boost clock vs 5.0 on the i7. That extra clock speed can come in handy in rendering work, engineering programs etc. otherwise, main benefits in gaming would come from a better GPU. But hey, 50 is not a great deal much. Perhaps it might help with resale later?
In short - you’re wrong
Hey! sorry about the late response. Can you clarify what I was wrong about? Happy to learn! :)
@@kazmiee slim 7 leading the charts for many people as a great gaming laptop that doesn’t look like a clown show. I myself enjoying Slim 5.
@@highpiano oh absolutely! I am 100 % sided with non clown show discrete gaming laptops with understated looks. The slim 7 is still my absolute favorite. Great features, awesome value for money. All rounder. I just hope Lenovo continues to innovate and bring something fresh to this space. :)
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@@kazmieewould you say the same for razor tho? Although I agree that Lenovo is lacking innovation compared to Asus but they still deliver in terms of quality, price point, and especially their warranty programs are top notch.
If Asus M16 is its rival then Lenovo is doing great job with it's pricing in my country. M16 costs literally twice the price of slim 7i gen 8 here, which makes the latter a total value for money.
Oh nice! Good to hear these guys have an edge. Which country is this if you dont mind me asking?
@@kazmiee hey I'm from India
Same here in Italy
They are the same price in my country. If going for IPS display for both.
It's very frustrating to see Lenovo/Legion only offering a Mini-LED on the $5,000 Legion 9i, especially after they advertised it with the launch of the Gen 7 Slim models last year but never released it.
I think all the manufacturers decided to keep minileds as a super exclusive option in gaming laptops. I mean, is it really necessary to get an i9 and 4080/90 just for a miniled? Its all fixed! Id like to see these guys need to make pc gaming more enticing for the console gamers.
The 14 in slim 5 come with a premium oled at it base price
@@kazmiee well there is Lenovo Yoga Pro 9i (16in), which in Europe at the moment is @ 2000€.
I think its the cheapest miniled and it only goes up to 4070.
I was able to get the legion pro 5i with the i7-13700HX, 4060, 32 GB DDR5 RAM, and the 240 hertz panel at 500 nits and I only paid $1249. Amazing deal so I couldn't pass it up!
Seriously? That is a cracking good deal! Hope others can take advantage of it as well. Maybe drop in a link here for others to see as well? Thanks for sharing say12033!
Let me guess… B&H?😂 I got the same lne
Mine is i7 13th gen + 4060. Hell of a beast. Runs all Aaa title in Ultra with ease. Gets very hot must admit but if used with laptop cooler temps reduce a lot. Using this beast since 9 months. ❤🔥
Always love hearing a good story about this bond between man and machine. It is certainly a very capable machine. I am currently testing out the new Asus G16 2024 which also has the 4060 along with the newer ultra processor and the gaming performance is identical. So your machine may be from 2023 but it is still very much in 2024. Hope you continue to enjoy it! What games are you playing on it lately?
@@kazmiee yeah thanks. This machine is indeed special for me as its my first gaming machine. Currently I am playing Doom eternal and Back 4 blood. Playing on ultra settings. Literally juicing all the pulp out🤣
What is display resolution? 3.2k or 1600p
@@CrisstianoRR 1600P. I believe Legion is only offering 3.2K in its Legion 9i.. I could be wrong
@@CrisstianoRR mine is 3.2k
Ur vids just keep getting better ! Did wanna know tho do you buy these laptops yourself then resell or how doyou get them ?
Thank you supboss! Super grateful for ypur interest and for your kind words of encouragement. Yes, it is mosty that. Buy and sell. So it becomes a pretty expensive process considering I am a microscopic channel right now and have no partnerships. But I do hope I get there and get monetized soon to support better hardware and more frequent content :)
I chose the the Legion Slim 7i Gen 8 with i9 and upgraded it to 32 GB RAM and 5 TB (maybe later to 8 TB) SSD.
I found that most people don't understand DDR 5 and (maybe) other tech concepts.
This machines price / performance ratio is still exceptional.
Furthermore: it's "post industrial design" is outstanding to me.
It's just a performance beauty.
Love that! Thanks for sharing! I do absolutely agree. In my eyes it still remains to be the most well rounded gaming laptop out there; it has a little bit of everything and little in the way of compromises.. and for such a nice and premium build, it is wild that Lenovo offers it at such a great price.
Just bought this last night, open box from Best Buy here in CT Lenovo - Legion Slim 7i 16" Gaming Laptop WQXGA- Intel Core i9-13900H with 16GB Memory - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 8GB - 1TB SSD - Storm Grey
Awesome! How has your experience been so far?
I bought it late last night, haven't even taken it out of the box, about to do an unboxing . I'll let you know i guess. Honestly it was down to ASUS - ROG Zephyrus M16 I was so DEAD SET ON BUYING THIS.. I was also torn between ASUS - ROG Zephyrus G16 16. So, I was going back and fourth for sometime, until i saw a video on Lenovo. I had no idea they were into gaming, and I just fell in love.. I was either going to do PRO 5, or the Slim that i got. I don't have money for 2K plus. I'd love a 408, 4090 but that's way to much for me. I shop open boxed for my laptop. I think I made a good decision. I did like the feel of the ASUS though. @@kazmiee
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You're a good reviewer: lots of little details and insight. Objective but with a nice personal touch. Keep it up!
Thank you hansvannuffel! Glad to hear you found my content to be useful! This encoragement helps me stay motivated to keep bringing out new content to you all
Damn, 3 hours? I'm getting around 8 hours of youtube runtime watching this machine (verified, lost around 7% watching this video)
Just confirming. You have the same device as well? And getting 8 hours out of it?
I had the i9/4070 and the device pulls 14w discharge in full screen TH-cam video loop. On idle it can drop under 10w (10hrs just screen/wifi).
Your discrete gpu was not inactive when you were checking battery life
@@spacedreamer12 Hmmmm. Interesting. Possible that vantage just switched at the face but not in the Nvidia control panel. Thanks for letting me know!
@@kazmiee Yes, but i have the 2000p panel. Actually, there is a strange EC bug where sometimes, booting the machine in hybrid-iGPU mode disconnects the data bus for the dGPU (meaning it does not show up in task manager), but it still gets fed power (up to 9W more). When this happened i got similar battery life to what you got. For me the trick was to set it from hybrid-iGPU to hybrid, back to hybrid-iGPU. Actually, I used Lenovo Legion Toolkit to automate this and I get really quite good battery life out of this machine now.
@@regorforgottheirpassword2986 this is a really good tip. Thank you for sharing! Ill try to put it to use in my other legion since I dont have the slim 7i anymore :/
Thank you, it's very good review. Decide to bought slim 7 4060 version rather than 4070 because your video !. And love the device especialy in term of speaker :)
Hi Imanuddin. Grateful for your time and faith in my content! It is most certainly an amazing machine. I hope it treats you well! Looking forward to hearing more about your experiences
There was an insane discout for the lenovo legion pro 7 with the rtx 4070 and intel 13900hx for only 1’846 usd! That's an insane 670 dollar discout (compared to the starting non discounted price)
Mmm, did you buy it then or are you eyeing something else?
Unfortunately it wasn’t the laptop for me, what I was really looking for was a laptop with 2 in 1 capabilities
@@BrickEngines 2 in 1? Do you mean laptops that can convert to tablets? Like a surface pro or something?
I got this laptop brand new off Facebook marketplace for $1300 so many ppl bought it during the sale
I liked the review but defending Alienware for its high temps just because it has a 4080 doesn't seem justified. Sure, it has a much higher wattage, but that's the decision of the manufacturer.
Hmm, that is a fair comment. Did not intend on appearing to defend Alienware or seem biased. Just wanted to say that devices can work with different thermal tolerances subject to a myriad of factors to make the device work for the end consumer. But perhaps ill do a deeper dive into the thermals of the Alienware to see how well performance is sustained over a long period of use. Have recently started playing Starfield on it and will log some stats to see how it all works out.
Also thank you for liking my content. Let me know if there are any specific stats you would like to see in my future videos. :)
Hi Ali. I just discovered you chanel and the quality of the reviews is very good! I need some help here: I was debating between Legion Slim 7i and Zephyrus M16, both with IPS screen. Coming from a Macbook M1 Pro can't switch to cheap plastic laptop. I'm doing web development and just started working on a video game a month ago so need some graphical juice. Which one would you recommend?
Thank you for your kind words Daniel. I really appreciate it! I am leaning towards the M16.. atleast on an "on paper" kind of technical understanding. Big win for the M16 is having 2 SODIMMs so that you can easily upgrade your ram to 64 if needed. Also, with the third fan and more heat pipes, it offers better thermals which is very important for the long life of the device. I also really like the look of the device with the screen starting from the base of the deck. the keyboard is also REALLY nice on the M16. I believe it might be a bit more expensive compared to the Legion Slim 7, but I think it more than justifies the premium on paper. Sure, it would be thicker compared to the Slim 7 but on the day to day, I believe you wont even notice it. You will lose RGB control on the M16, sure! but honestly, the novelty of per key RGB seems to wear off rather quickly.
NOWW.. all that being said, if someone is attempting to move from the apple world to windows, I am usually very happy to recommend the Razer blade (of course, subject to availability of budget); BUT.. NOTHING.. and i mean nothing comes close to the premium build and feel in windows devices to that of the Razer Blade. And at a thickness of 0.67 inches, It feels incredibly slim and solid at the same time, while pushing PS5 levels of power. You dont have to consider the Blade 16.. since that is thicker. The blade 15 still offers a sweet spot in terms of power and portability. Maybe you could also get a good deal on last gen's Blade 17 with a 3070ti.. which offers close to the 4070's performance this year. Hope this helps!
@@kazmieeThanks a lot Ali. Very useful information. Razer Blade 17 inch RTX 3070ti is within my budget. My only concern is that's last gen and I think doesn't support DLSS 3. I was able to test both Legion Slim 7i and M16. Touchpad is okish on both but Legion metal build feels so much better. It feels cold metal and I love that compared to M16 weird alloy of lightest metal (Magnesium) that feels like plastic.
I haven't had the chance to put my hands on a Blade and I don't know if it's worth overpaying for 2023 model. Some people in Lenovo Legion Discord said that Razer Blade have bigger QC issues compared to Lenovo Legion.
Technicali, great work as always! How about reviewing lenevos or other brands with low end gpu's , or other laptops that are meant for productivity portability/ battery life? Just curious, thanks
Heyy! Thank you for your support! That is a great suggestion and it is actually my consideration for the next year. I just want to make sure I understand what good looks like with the high end performance stuff before getting into the rest just so I can offer better comparisons and advice in terms of overall value :)
wow, insane small difference between 4060 and 4070. I think Nvidia is intentionally handicaping the 4070 by limiting it to 100W so the 4070TI will make sense when they release it. However, I struggle to understand overall those TimeSpy Scores. After reapplying liquid metal on CPU + thermal paste on my GPU+VRMs, I have a Graphics Score of 10902 with an ***RTX3070*** (2.5yo ROG). The CPU score is way lower, 8721, the "old" Ryzen 7 5800H can't really keep up, despite having a more linear graph ( runs above 4Ghz - up to 4.4 ) constantly, I see this 13700H dips quite often below 4Ghz which is not ideal. I was thinking of an upgrade if there's a good offer on Black Friday because this ROG gives me random freezes sometimes, but given how little performance improvment there is, I think I'll keep it for 1 more year or so given they're not really that frequent on cable, more on battery. Good review!
I was surprised as well. But then hardware specs dont have much setting them apart. Overall I think good decision to have the 4060 with 8 gigs of vram. 6 is just not sufficient anymore. Even 8 is become obsolete now. Good to see you're squeezing out the full potential out of your ROG machine. I am thinking to repaste my Razer 15 with the 3070 as well soon with liquid metal. Ill probably do a deeper check into the frequency stats as well. I miss the good old days when all cores were made equal. I dont even see alot of battery/energy saving benefits of the E cores. Makes it a little wierd to evaluate the CPU as a package. :/
This generation of mobile gpus is just trash unless you get a 4080 or 4090.
You can get a 4050 that runs at _140W_ . That's so dumb, when it goes past like 105W or 110W it just wastes energy with NO performance gain. The only good thing about this generation (on lower end models) is frame generation and the extra vram on 4050 and 4060. They done the 4070 dirty. It should have had 10-12GB to make it look HALFWAY decent
Let me tell you this. I have A legion 5 pro with a 3070 that goes up to 150 watts and a 5800h yet my timespy scores were 12,460 for the Graphics and 10,200 for the CPU. It seems like you aren't utilizing your hardware properly.
@@Stardomplay hmm, well, If that 3070 really is going up to 150w, that could tip the scales for a favorable timespy score. In this device, TGP barely reached 90w. Not sure how I can utilize the hardware better. Happy to take any advice. :)
@@Stardomplay not really sure how you're getting 150W out of that RTX 3070. Even lenovo mentions a cap on 140W, that with Dynamic boost. In stress tests on a full CPU load (45W) this GPU doesn't reach more than 125W. In gaming, where the CPU is not 100% used ( so ~ 35-36W) it can go up to 130-135W. There's really not a way to "use the hardware better" unless you decide to go into overclocking, which gives minimal performance improvments in relation to the temps / power. I, for one, don't really see a point of overclocking, other than increasing results for benchmarks....fps in games is slightly better, but it doesn't make a difference ( if the game is not playable, it won't be playable with OC ). Thanks for sharing tho!
Wow really good review, subbed
Thank you NewkFritz! Appreciate the support!
Can you do a comparison with Legion slim 7 Gen 8 AMD version?
Hmm, i would have been honestly super interested if Amd had put out their Radeon 7000 mobile GPUs. I have only seen the 7600M so far and am looking for atleast a 7700M. Ill pick it up for sure if we see a good Ryzen Radeon combo!
Amazing work....really proud of you! ❤
Thank you bhuttzz!
Can I ask what charger you purchased for USB-C charging. I will be using this laptop on the go, and for me the chunky 230w charger is just too big for portability. I read some conflicting things online, and I'm worried buying the wrong charger for it. And which port do you use for charging?
Thank you for your question. I use a 135w lenovo charger which is non GAN so can still be a bit larger than I'd like. www.lenovo.com/ca/en/p/accessories-and-software/chargers-and-batteries/chargers/4x21h27800. There is the port on the left labelled 'usb pd' where the charge is intended to go through. But you also have TB4 port which can be used as well. I have used GAN based 100w chargers before ( spigen / Anker ) and they seem to work just fine :) . Though these chargers won't support gaming. Office work, light video editing, browsing, the normal stuff but not gaming :)
I got the white version of legion 7 and it's so beautiful but not for some people (some of my friends preder the black one), and i got the 3.2k screen because that's the one available in my country and i can assure if you playing triple a game it's the best option in the price range
Oh my gawwwd. You have to share pictures! Where did you get it from? I think the slim 7 in white would be such a thing of beauty. 3.2k is still better than 4k. Also id say even if you play non native at 1600P, you should get great performance advantages and suffer very little deterioration in quality. But nice man. Enjoy!
Nice bro i bought this laptop but with a amd processor, i didnt want to pay 400€ more for a 4070, btw they have the white version in some markets
That is true! They had "stingray" white I think in Gen 6 devices there but no option so far for white here in Legions.. atleast as far as I can see. Hope they can bring it here soon! Hope the AMD machine is treating you well too. How is the battery life btw? Any better than my experience?
I wish they had thinkpad red trackpoint with the legion slim too, i would have been much happier, i am addicted to that while working on laptop.
Haha really? Nice! I dont know many people who make use of that. We have just the lenovo T series at the office and I dont think I have ever seen anyone use it.
@@kazmiee if you haven't then i will recommend to try for few days, so many times i wishes to switch to other laptop but still stuck with thinkpad for this reason. I don't have to once leave my finger from keyboard to use the trackpad. Scrolling up down left right, use the index finger for Pointer and both thumb for left and right click. Seamless working. Its kind of addicting if you ask me.
Hi and congratulations on your great work , any advice between this and 5 pro please?
Well, you will pay a premium with the Slim 7 and get a 500 nits display instead of 300, get per key RGB, a premium build and feel, obviously a thinner build as well which feels nice, you get biometric login. PERSONALLY, I'd prefer the Slim 7 since I feel it is worth the premium BUTT.. if for example your use case is to edit large and long 4k videos, then with the 5i you can install 64 gigs but with the slim 7, the options are limited. For the casual gamer, who wants a nice OVERALL laptop for general productivity and gaming, the Slim 7 should be perfect. Hope that helps!
@@kazmiee All i want its an overall laptop for casual gaming , i don't mind battery and portability and i dont want Desktop , and all 5/7 Slim AMD comes at similar price with 4060 unless the 5 Pro Rayzen 7945HX its a 180 £ more and and i think its a bit stronger for RTX 4060 but comes with 500 nits too , also considering Asus Strix 16/17 but 2-300£ more but i am scared about backlight and coil wine i heard they have , so Legion Slim 7 will might be my bet within 1500-1600 £ budget ,and I hope will get soon again at 1200 £ ,thank you!
Nice review 😎
Thank you Blonde Girl!
in my opinion i understand the point of legion needing to inovate to stay ahead but the thing is that this laptop in its basic form is better or very comparable to other laptops that cost literally like a 1000 us more on normal price at least talking about the m16 or the x16 which are better but not that much better for their price.
For sure, the Legion Slim 7 has always been extremely well rounded on all fronts including value for money. Still one of the easiest low risk gaming laptops to recommend. It is actually pretty amazing how much quality Legion offers at such a great price
Thanks for your reviews.
Can you do a review of legion pro 5 Gen 8 with rtx4070 and compare it with other laptops.
Thank you for the suggestion. Ill see if I can squeeze that in. :)
Yes, battery life of AMD version is untouchable for Intel, with same kind of workload discharge rate is floating around 12-15w which translates into 7hrs and close to 8 for simple web browsing in quiet mode, LEDs off and screen at 40-50%. The only problem is that AMD also got bunch of annoying bugs and issues ( that are not present in this Intel powered version) and after weeks of fighting with their seemingly non existing support it looks like lenovo is unable on just unwilling to fix them. So Intel got bad battery life and AMD got issues, pick your poison )
Haha, I hear that, and I think people would be happy to pick "reliable but power hungry" over "unreliable but efficient". To AMD's credit, they have been hard at work and have introduced many many driver updates and I have personally seen many issues go away with my Legion 7 gen 7 you with the Ryzen 6800H and Radeon 6700M. It seems to be pretty stable now but initially I had to experiment quite a bit with drivers and updates. I was testing out the Corsair A1600 last week which is an all AMD machine and that had a few annoying quirks as well for which I had to mess around before getting it stable. So one probably needs to be patient and know their way a bit around computers to deal with AMD machines. Which makes me sad
What type of bugs were you seeing? Just got the Slim 7 AMD, so would like to know what to check for.
@@deepg7084 are there any particular issues that you're coming across?
@kazmiee I'm sending it back. My display flickers badly every 30-60 seconds. I contacted support and they said they'll send a replacement. Sounded great. Today I got an email saying the replacement will arrive in late May. I ordered this laptop in November! No shot. Going to tell them to keep the replacement and give me a refund. I really loved the Slim 7 after doing a LOT of research. It checked all the boxes I was looking for. Just wasn't in the cards for me. I was coming from a macbook air that lasted me 10 years of daily use. There really is no equal to Apple's build quality. Will probably just get a macbook pro.
@@deepg7084 yep, specs price and design are really good but its all messed up by the terrible firmware / bios and absence of any real support.
I had a 10-15% difference in benchmarks between the 4060 and the 4070 on the 5 Slim (7840HS)
That is alright! In terms of your gameplay experience though, did you feel a noticeable difference?
@@kazmiee I noticed a difference while playing Cyberpunk and Starfield. It was enough for me to justify the purchase!
Hey loved the video
I’m having a bit of trouble choosing between the Lenovo legion slim 7i vs the hp omen transcend 16
My main use case is going to be architecture related software’s.
Thank you for the question! Though I have not had hands on experience on the Transcend and I intend to soon, here is my take:
Things in Favor of the Transcend:
- Ceramic white; it is a unique color in the gaming laptop space
- 2 RAM Sodimms - You can take it up to 64 gigs to support massive architecture / 3d projects (Legion Slim only has only one sodimm slot)
- Can be configured with a miniled option so HDR content takes a big leap
- HX series intel CPUs (so 24 cores) providing desktop grade processing to support large scale rendering int your architecture projects
- Facial login using windows hello (Legion has fingerprint login)
Things in favor of the Legion slim 7
- overall better user-friendly experience through the Lenovo vantage software (+ keyboard shortcuts)
- Slightly lighter in weight - Close to 2 kilos instead of 2.3 in the Transcend
- Can be configured with a higher resolution display (3000 x 2000 px) though no mini led
- 2 SSD slots for easy storage upgrade - Transcend just has one slot
- Keypad is available if you're crunching in numbers
- Keyboard that is broadly accepted to feel premium to type on - also, does not have the WASD keys that are translucent - I personally dont like laptops trying to look too 'gamer-esque'
- SD Card slot
With the HX series CPUs and upgradeable RAM, feels like the Transcend can be a better buddy for architecture work (I mean you can still have the Legion bought in the 32gig RAM configuration from the start which can be sufficient) - But overall as a general laptop to cover most use cases, perhaps the Legion is better. I think the HX series CPU can play the major deciding factor. Hope that helps!
@@kazmieewow THANKS A TON FOR THE QUICK REPLY I really appreciate u spending your time to help me out.
Just one more query
IF the hx processor is the determining part
Would going for the Lenovo legion pro 5i for the same configurations as your Lenovo legion pro 7i make sense?
The lenovo slim 7 AMD is amazing, I tried to purchase it but the delivery estimated wait time is until May 4th, I can't wait that long, what would you recommend. thannks
Oh man.. That delivery date is insane! I am sorry to hear that. Naturally the Slim 7 holds a good special place in the market. My best alternative would be the Asus M16 but it might be a bit expensive (which I dont understand why) But you will get better heat management with it as well and I'd say an overall better experience too (MINUS the RG keyboard) - You could also consider the G16 if that fits the bill though it becomes a bit flashy for me personally. In similar dimensions, build and personality, The MSI stealth 15 or 16 also comes to mind. The Stealth 15 actually has an OLED as well though naturally those can be expensive too. For thin and powerful though, look no further than the Alienware X16. Though It works best with a 4080 if you have the budget. There is also an HP Omen transcend which I have heard great things about but have not used it yet. BTW< if you dont mind me asking; what is your location? Feels strange that Legion does not have good reach any where in the world. If you can find the older Gen 7 Legion 7 with a 3070ti or even the 6700M, that will be awesome
@@kazmiee thank you so much for your answer!, I wanna send it to Montana 59716 or to Miami 33009, same delivery time for both (may4th-may10th)
Hi, I want to Upgrade the RAM on this laptop. Can you please suggest some compatible RAM specification for this laptop, something that complements the Soldered RAM ?
You should be fine with DDR5 5200MHz 1Rx8. Anything over that speed would still work but that extra speed may not be useable. Hope this helps. You should be able to slot in a single 32 gig stick in there as well
An interesting video might be a compari between legion 7 and Asus Strix Scar
One more question, in slim core i7, rtx 4060. If i am only using adobe Acrobat pdf reader and one note app. How much would be the battery backup with about 50% brightness?
Well, apparently I am told that my test may have been done with dGPU still drawing power. If you switch it off from the Nvidia CP, you should get even 6 hours. Unfortunately I no longer have the device to test it out with evidence
Salam Ali bhai. Great review!
Thank you MrDigit420! Glad you found my content to be useful.
Should i buy the legion 2022 7i or buy them slim 7 gen 8 3070ti and 4060 which one? Can you make an recomment.
The 2022 Legion 7 for me is an awesome device and holds even more value to me after the 2023 Gen 8 Legion 7 had removed a few key features. The 3070ti should slightly outperform the 4060 but wont have frame generation (which is perfectly fine for me since FG makes quality compromises in games) The Slim 7 with the 4060 will obviously be slimmer and lighter but the 2022 Legion 7 is just an overall much MUCH nicer machine to own. Hope that helps!
Jarrod got about 7 hour with a 3.2k display,
How did you get such worst battery life
Im wonder it too 😮
Someone mentioned here that when I selected i-GPU mode only from the Vantage software, it may not have made the change correctly in the Nvidia control panel. Even when I rechecked the logs, I see average GPU power of 2Ws not twenty. just 2. But since I no longer have the device. I am unable to re-do the test. ill be sure to recheck from NCP next time and perhaps perform the test twice.
Where were you able to find it for that price here in Canada?
Got it from Lenovos own website. I guess I got lucky with their discount.
@@kazmiee I just ordered the 4060 i7 1tb with 4 years of warranty and accidental damage protection, it came to $2500 after tax but we pay 15% here in ns. I’m not 100% sold on it yet. Would you recommend a different laptop for the price?
@@servinuup49 what other options did you have in mind? I have never been to NS - would you say that the availability of laptops is any different there?. Though you have a good warranty coverage, Id say you are almost paying 4070 money for a 4060 - that is my reaction for now :/
so do you think i should buy the legion 7i gen 8(2023) or not? i also needed for college, i'm an engineering student so i need a powerful laptop, could it be good for both gaming and work?
Thank you for your question. Do you have any other options in mind?
@@kazmiee I am confused between this model with i9 13900H vs Asus rog strix g17 with Ryzen 9 7845HX. Both 32 GB ram, with Rtx 4070 and 1tbssd and Rtx 4050 and 3tb ssd respectively. Cost for both is 2000 USD. which one is better value for the price in terms of perfomance, upgrade and in general?
no, thanks@@kazmiee
@@shano494 well, the slim 7 gen 8 is an all rounder for me, for its dimensions, it provides adequate power for casual gaming AAA titles and also has a decent processor to support engineering work (I am guessing using autocad). Overall it is usually a safe choice with great value for money as well. The only limitation is not being able to properly upgrade ram dual channel mode. Let me know if you have any further questions!
thank u so much man, main focus is autocad, thanks alot again @@kazmiee
Can i do long hour gaming sessions on it ?? Should i buy this one or i should go for legion pro 5i ?
It should be able to handle it just fine. With the pro 5i you will get a display that is not as bright BUT.. you will get one extra SODIMM slot to upgrade your ram later. But honestly, if for example you're long COD matches like 5 hours straight, though it will handle it just fine, the 5i might give you SLIGHTLY more comfort on the keyboard deck / wrist areas just because it has a bigger body and will be able to dissipate heat a bit more efficiently. But I'd think the difference may not be too noticeable. ALSO, if your based in a geo that generally has a warmer climate, perhaps there the 5i might prove to be slightly more useful. Otherwise, the SLIM 7 is a pretty great machine. It feels way more premium and has a biometric login as well
@@kazmiee thank you
Hi, how would you compare this gen 8 slim vs the last year gen 7 slim 7 that has 6800h cpu and 6800s gpu?
I think it is a little more refined. More powerful and more performance even with the 4060. The screen has a higher refresh rate. The brushed aluminum band around the sides makes it feel more premium. Slightly better thermal design. But yes, it isn't a substantial jump i'd say. No innovation
@@kazmiee how is your last year gen slim 7 holding up when it comes to gaming? i had one coming this week that i bought for $1086cad including taxes but not sure if i should replace it with the 4060 model and add another $400cad
@@dwilfred923 the 6800s was pretty decent for gaming actually. The 4060 might get you maybe 5-15% more FPS depending on the game. IMO, that difference may not even be that noticeable if you're a casual gamer. I would like to think I am a casual gamer so getting 80 fps instead of 70 really does not make a big difference to my gaming experience. We might be seeing Ti variants in laptops in a few months or who knows! 5000 series nvidias soon. So i was you, i would be okay to sit back for a bit and take advantage of what is to come next year. But then again, Id like to think I am a patient person. :)
Hello. What will better legion 7 2023 or HP omen 16 slim 2023 white color?
Slim? Is this the HP Transcend?
@@kazmiee yes. White hp omen transcend 16 i9 13900
@@kazmiee so, whats better?
@@dj_iceman_31 i would lean more towards the legion for now personally. If I was looking for something less bulky and more portable though, i would pick the slim 7. I have had omen machines twice. They did not have anything wrong with them to be honest, even thermals were decent but nothing special about them either. Its just that Legions are generally better invested in their gaming laptops and even if both devices are hardware wise equal i would pick legion because they just offer a mose friendly experience. :)
@@kazmiee yes, i wanna buy lefion 7 slim ))) but without rgb keyboard, china version just white color(
Good review
Thank you Sharath! Glad to hear you found my content useful.
Hey man, I really need your advice or anyone who's reading this comment.
I have been looking to buy a gaming laptop for almost a year now and I have now reached a point where I'm looking at the Legion 5 pro from 2021 and the zephyrus g15 from 2022. Both have a 3060 but the legion has a full powered 130W one and the Zephyrus has a 120W one. The zephyrus is a light weight option for sure but I have seen users saying that it does have some screen tearing and stuttering issues, mainly cuz it does not have G-sync. I dont know if that is the main reason but that is as far as I know. I'm not much into content creation. I am a casual guy who wants to game smoothly without any problems that'll last me a really long time. Please give me some good advice here, I'm going paranoid💀
Hey Govind, thank you for your quesrion. Where are you based and what is your budget? Any chance you can accomodate a device with an RTX 4060 or Radeon 6800S ? I only ask because a 3060 would have 6 gigs or Vram and since you are seeking a device that would last you some time, id advise to get something with atleast 8 gigs of vram. Although, now that I think about it, if the savings are nice with the 3060 and you primarily intend to play at 1080p and with medium to high graphic presets, perhaps it would still treat you well. Generally speaking, from what I have heard, when it comes to thermals from that time, Legions would be a better choice compared to the ROG. I do still maintain, you wont find a noticeable difference between 120w and 130w TGP :/ . All just my opinions. Others are also free to share here. Hope you get your device soon so that you can get to some gaming. :)
@@kazmiee Hey!
I'm from India and I'd say 1200$ is around the max that my budget can allow. The Legion, after discounts and an exchange offer cost around 1178$.
The zephyrus costs around 1200$ on the dot with the exact price reduction options. Primarily I'm leaning more towards the legion cuz of that 16" screen with that insane brigthness and a good colour gamet. But since its a 2021 model, I'm having second thoughts about its reliability over the coming years. There is a 4060 option here, from the Lenovo LOQ series, but its got an average 15.6 inch screen with average colour gamet with ok brightness but it costs around a 1046$ only. And the model I'm looking at doesn't have any RGB keyboard option. Well I'd like to have some level of RGB to spicen up my dull life so that's why😅. It is an amazing deal no joke but its the only 4060 option at that budget constraint. I am not looking much into content creation but I'd like to have a good screen to watch movies, videos and what not while also game quite a bit. Most games would run at 1440p without much problems in the Legion right? That's what I have seen till now and I hope it is the case with the zephyrus too. I wouldn't mind playing in 1080p with descent settings cuz it would be my first ever gaming laptop. So I would love to know if I wont end having an regrets after buying.
I bought the slim 7i with a i9 and a 4070RTX for 2000€
Nice. how is it treating you so far?
In the case of mini-led, the legion introduction it recently on their “9i” products. Yes there is a legion 9i now that has a mini-led screen goes to a brightness of 1200 nits kinda similar to their yoga pro 9i 😅
I am just glad the 9i exists! Even for 6-8 months, did not feel right to label the 7 as their flagship. I think missed sales for Legion to not have introduced it earlier. Tech enthusiasts may have already made their spending on miniled options. Oh well, excited to see a "first" with integrated liquid cooling. I see Legion as an innovative brand and hope they can continue with that in the future.
Same here buddy
Can you do a video comparing to the gen 7 slim 7 amd?
What exactly are you looking to find out?
mostly gaming benchmark comparisons
@@harpxeal3869 hmm, have you checked my review of the previous gen 7 slim 7? Did not find what you were looking for there?
1850 CAD is a great price...
Did you measure the weight of the unit?
I remember it was around 2 kilos. SLIGHTLY less. Like 1.98 or something. Did not capture that on video
@@kazmiee oh wow that's great. I was little worried because every other review on this unit was weighing the laptop at 2.2kg despite Lenovo claiming a less then 2kg weight.
I am in canada, how do you get it on 1850 cad including taxes?
The Lenovo website had a deal of a discount close to 30pc or something. I feel that their website is usually the best place to get a good deal on Legion devices
@@kazmiee not right now for legion laptops. Waiting for coupon to buy laptop. My budget is 1800 with taxes.
@@aayushrijal9077 there is a probably a sale nearby to fit that budget. Maybe find someone with a perkopolis account. I think they will offer additional discounts on Lenovo. Perhaps a CPA friend?
Hey i have an hp omen which i brought recently the processor is Amd 6800H with Nvidia 3070 Ti should i upgrade from my omen to slim 7i the i9 with rtx 4060 one ?
From what I understand, the performance difference will be negligible except where you can use frame generation and newer DLSS version. But even so, id say, not worth the jump. Infact, id say, the 3070ti would even outperform the 4060. Like there is even a marginal difference between the 3070ti and 4070. The 6800H i believe is plenty as well and more energy efficient as well. IF howcever your omen has a 1080p display and you want to move to QHD+ or maybe the webcam / keyboard is not great.. maybe it could be worth exploring. But if I was you, I would not currently update till it is for a 4080 device. Just my thought. Hope that is helpful!
@@kazmieeYou are generally correct although the single core performance of the 6800h was already underwhelming when it launched and it's already a bottleneck in most modern games.
@@Stardomplay hmmm, well, I have my Legion 7 with the 6800H and I have not many such experiences. The GPUs tend to make the real difference when it comes to games. Other than that. All up to you, if there are more CPU bound games in your library, you can explore for sure, but I would sincerely advise to at least get a 4070. I mean, if you're going to do it, do it proper is all I'm saying. :)
A gaming laptop for every day of the week....:P
Indeeeeeeeeed :)
Can I test it?? it looks good...
bluffing aside good video. Sub +1
Thank you Saroj! Grateful for the sub! Hope I can continue to bring out useful content!
@@kazmiee good luck for the journey ahead, pal.
@@sarojregmi200 Thank you Saroj! Btw, were you eyeing this device for yourself by any chance?
@@kazmiee No I was not, My one sucks when I sit to work it lasts only half an hour, and cries out loud for help using fans. Anyways this video was recommended in my homescreen.
please make a review of lenovo legion pro 5 gen 8 2023 amd/intel version
Thank you for the suggestion. Ill try to squeeze it in if I can :)
Yeah the numpad is the only gripe i have with it, for the vast majority it will be useless and an uncentered keyboard and trackpad are annoying as hell
I hear you! Maybe legion is following some market research where target customers are rating the numpad as a high priority. Getting rid of it would REALLY improve the looks of it as well.
It's one of the main reasons I chose this laptop over some competitors. I use it a lot for work and I was looking for a hybrid laptop for work/gaming.
Do you know what is getting old? 1080p videos :P
Hahahah. That is fair. Oh man, id love to put out higher quality videos. Waiting to get some sort of monetization to get proper equipment. This phone can only do so much to capture all these videos.
No they aren't lmao
Legion 7 2021 is 165w full power. So my 3070 is closer to a 4050 in an underwatted model anyway.
Haha, I can certainly relate as well with a 3070 in my prior Razer Blade 15. But at least you should find comfort in having 256 bits memory bus and 8 gigs of VRAM :)
@@kazmiee honesty if there was a simple way to have an external gpu like an external hard drive I would never have to think about upgrading laptops. The full aluminum chassis of the legion series and the 2k screen is just perfect
@@Simplicity007 I hear you man. No one really invested in a refreshed version of eGPUs
However, ROG still has that external GPU option obviously proprietary. But even with thunderbolt, the Razer eGPU is your best bet. It can still give you what you are looking for but you won't get the absolute full potential out of it. I know the Razer EGPU (core) can go on 50 PC discount once or twice a year
@@kazmiee I have a 5800h. I don’t think my model supports thunderbolt ?
Review legion 9i too
Ooof I am really looking forward to that. Should be a pretty nice Machine. But its REAALLY pricey. Not sure I have the budget for it at the moment. :/
Buying link.
www.lenovo.com/ca/en/p/laptops/legion-laptops/legion-slim-series-laptops/lenovo-legion-slim-7i-gen-8-(16-inch-intel)/len101g0028
Apologies for the late response!
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Haha, Tayyab! good to see you!. I almost did not recognize you. Hope all theek thaak?
With the Legion slim 7, AMD is the way to go, pretty clearly!
would be if you could get it.
@kazmiee should i go for this or the omen 16 i7 13700hx along with 4070
I have not gotten my hands on the Omen.. But if it is cheaper by comparison, You can definitely consider it. I mean both in terms of their engineering are pretty standard, you do get 2 SODIMMs for RAM but just 1 slot for your SSD, however in the Legion you get 1 SODIMM for RAM and 2 slots for your SSD. So up to you where you want to swing. ALSO, the Legion has a nicer display, both are 240 hz, but the legion has a more modern 16:10 aspect ratio and goes up to 500 nits. as a result, I personally think it is better looking as well. For me, i would pick the Legion 7, it is just a nice well rounded device, but you wont get an HX CPU in there. personally, I dont have any particular use case for the HX CPU. As a casual gamer, even a 13th gen i5 would be okay since MOST games tend to be more GPU bound. Anyway, hope that helps! let me know what you finally decide on!
@@kazmiee thank u eben i am going for legion 7i slim
@@namanrustagi135 awesome! Do share your experiences with me if possible. Always good to get an another set of observations in the mix :)
@@kazmiee hey i will be buyong it in a week now lenovo has some qeitd combination of i9 13900h with 4060 should i go with it ? i mean i am getting i7 13700h 4060 for a 50$ diff but the thing is i am worried about i9 bottlenecking withva 4060 what are your thoughts
@@namanrustagi135 for the purpose of gaming, the i7 will be more than enough. The 13900H will give you 5.4ghz of boost clock vs 5.0 on the i7. That extra clock speed can come in handy in rendering work, engineering programs etc. otherwise, main benefits in gaming would come from a better GPU. But hey, 50 is not a great deal much. Perhaps it might help with resale later?