Gap shoudlve been even bigger, the Indycar there was only hitting 230 on the straights, whereas the Penskes were doing 240, 241 in qualifying this year
This car was in race trim (which has about 100 hp less) The fastest laps (without a tow) in qualy trim are 234s while in race trim they will only be doing 223-5s. So there you have the 10 mph missing. That's also why it was flat all the way around so easily. Less top speed and more downforce!
@@jamesj199789 Didn’t realize this computer simulation factored in air density… besides, pretty sure the aero package would more than compensate for that on an oval vs a racetrack with lefts, rights, low speed turns, and braking zones…
Oval , bye bye f1 . Indycar is powerful on ovals , best on the world and fastest . New hybrid era in future give Indycar better skills on road courses.
The Indy cars are tuned for 500 miles of racing, in which the F1 car would probably be several laps down if it doesn't explode trying to run that distance flat put.
F1 is considered the pinnacle of automobile racing, but that is in overall terms. If a car that has pushed itself to the limit in a particular area, such as the super high-speed oval in Indianapolis this time, can pull its opponent into a stage in which it excels, there is a good chance that it can win, even if it is against F1 cars.
The F1 did pretty good, although it would have been more of a gap if it were a rolling start, but the true magic is what happens after these two laps. I’d say the Indycar would lap the F1 about every 10-11 laps.
An F1 is not designed for top speed but for sustained average speed while having an outstanding cornering capabilty. Indycars they just gain momentum taking advante of the opponent's slipstream. Obviously on a F1 track the Indycar would be put to a terrible shame and the opposite. Similar but very different worlds.
Not yet. I like to do it with every champion of that year. Won't be out until December unfortunately. But don't worry, we will do a lot of cool stuff until then!
@@THEWINDTUNNEL You should do a voting poll when the time comes for the 2024 edition of The Ultimate Motorsports Race on which track should it be raced at. Can’t do Spa or Le Mans again since both tracks were used for the last two editions.
The durability of these IndyCars, body and internally, is astonishing. The way these cars can run at 225+ mph for 200 laps is bananas. And the skill it takes to handle these beast is something else 😮💨
Not really surprising when you take into consideration what they were designed for, but still interesting to see play out. I like these comparisons, even if they are a little silly. Could be worse though. Put the F1 car against a Cup car at Martinsville, and put Matt Kenseth behind the wheel of the Cup car.
This is wrong on so many levels... Geez! F1 car isn't designed to drive on ovals. Neither is the Indy 500 car speced as the road or street course Indycars... You might have compared the Long Beach spec with the Indy 500 spec car... Completely different animals...
The f1 car is in its one and only road course spec. Indy cars have a speedway and a road course spec. As we can’t just create an f1s speedway spec, What’s the result of f1 car vs indy car in road course spec?
Indycar is mostly used in oval tracks with angle and F1 is mostly used from circuit tracks that is flat but F1 has good acceleration and Indycar has good top speed.
This is not as fast as either of them can go bus as fast as it is allowed to by the regulations on safety grounds. Remember when F1 cars had to race on grooved tires because that's how far the FIA had to go trying to slow them down to sane speeds.
@@saltyaphid3195 Hmm, this simulation is factoring in air density?! besides, pretty sure the aero package would more than compensate for that on an oval vs a racetrack with lefts, rights, low speed turns, and braking zones…
@@AdamTheMan1993 The engines probably could do it if they were tuned right but they would need to run way less power than normal just to last the distance. Additionally the 6-7 races per engine takes into account that the cars are not flat out at 12000 RPMs the entire distance. Don't get me wrong I would love to see it be tried.
That Mexico GP video you mean: - Lower air density because of the altitude. - 2016 cars (less aero, thinner tyres = less drag) - A monster tow - Overtake ERS mode instead of a ballanced mode that has to last 2 full laps flat out.
Already many comments defending the Indy Car, probably because it is the "murican" sport. (I would prefer to call it the Hoosier sport, but we know that the states do not exist according to most people)
The current cars don't get to 370 km/h, even with a huge tow. Had to use a ballanced mode for the ERS to have energy for 2 laps without braking. With the "overtake" mode it would've runned out electric energy before it got to T3 in lap 1. Would've struggled to go over 330 km/h the rest of the race.
@@loganm2766 so many people trying to make excuses for the f1 car. Why is it so hard to admit that a car with an aero package specifically designed for superspeedways is much faster on superspeedways?
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Would you rather drive an IndyCar at Indianapolis or an F1 car at Monaco?
I would drive a IndyCar at Indianapolis
Both
Both
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Probably F1 car cos I would end up killing myself at indy
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Gap shoudlve been even bigger, the Indycar there was only hitting 230 on the straights, whereas the Penskes were doing 240, 241 in qualifying this year
That's only for qualifying bud, in race trim they have 100 hp less. You wo't see them going over 235 even with a tow on race day
This car was in race trim (which has about 100 hp less) The fastest laps (without a tow) in qualy trim are 234s while in race trim they will only be doing 223-5s. So there you have the 10 mph missing. That's also why it was flat all the way around so easily. Less top speed and more downforce!
F1 does 230 at the Mexican Grand Prix, obviously they wouldn’t go slower on a big oval… this is pretend, not science
@@billymays7210the air is also a whole lot thinner in Mexico City
@@jamesj199789 Didn’t realize this computer simulation factored in air density… besides, pretty sure the aero package would more than compensate for that on an oval vs a racetrack with lefts, rights, low speed turns, and braking zones…
The fastest indy 500 car from the 90s on daytona pls
I reckon that would be either a PC-23 (the beast) or something like a 1998 Mercedes Reynard.
And the fastest F1 car is from 2004-2005
@@insansiregar6158fastet f1 car mercedes w11
And 2016 f1 cars but not only with DRS but also with ERS please???
Finally no red bull💀
Oval , bye bye f1 . Indycar is powerful on ovals , best on the world and fastest . New hybrid era in future give Indycar better skills on road courses.
I‘ld like to see F1 doing an oval configuration in real life 😊
The Indy cars are tuned for 500 miles of racing, in which the F1 car would probably be several laps down if it doesn't explode trying to run that distance flat put.
F1 engines must last 7 races or 1326 miles according to F1 regulations.
F1 and IndyCar are the powerful racing combination
F1 for maneuvrability, IndyCar for short-term speed, LeMans for long-term speed.
@@gene51231356Dragsters vroomVROOOOOOOOOMMMMM........!
@@gene51231356imagine three of those combined in one specific motorsport class in the future
I was so invested in this
Did the F1 car run on full power from the ERS? Without that could be a bit lower than 1050 HP.
It would run out of ers before the end of the lap, so it wouldn't really make a difference in the long run
It was using about half of it, in a ballanced mode. So about 80hp less than 1050 hp.
F1 is considered the pinnacle of automobile racing, but that is in overall terms. If a car that has pushed itself to the limit in a particular area, such as the super high-speed oval in Indianapolis this time, can pull its opponent into a stage in which it excels, there is a good chance that it can win, even if it is against F1 cars.
The F1 did pretty good, although it would have been more of a gap if it were a rolling start, but the true magic is what happens after these two laps. I’d say the Indycar would lap the F1 about every 10-11 laps.
0:13 LBS weights are reversed
Finally! Honestly was beginning to think that the DRS and superior acceleration was going to hand the win to the F1 car.
The 2 open wheels are cooking here at Indianapolis
So now F1 vs Indycar at Monaco 😅
Haha. F1 would demolish the indycar.
Yes!
What for?
@@roblucas6097 well yeah, indycars aren't made to be fast, they're made to be affordable and competitive
@@amjan They're definitely fast just not as quick as an F1
How do you get that pack
An F1 is not designed for top speed but for sustained average speed while having an outstanding cornering capabilty. Indycars they just gain momentum taking advante of the opponent's slipstream. Obviously on a F1 track the Indycar would be put to a terrible shame and the opposite. Similar but very different worlds.
F1 should have more top speed
@@VarunTomee-kr6nffor what ? They don't need that much top speed in track like Monaco
Indycar races an entirely different chassis for ovals and road courses. The road course chasis is more comparable to F2 than F1 in terms of speed.
@@JGeller1989 Same chassis, different aero configuration
I think it’s definitely time for the 2024 edition of The Ultimate Motorsports Race based on the recent videos being posted.
Not yet. I like to do it with every champion of that year. Won't be out until December unfortunately. But don't worry, we will do a lot of cool stuff until then!
@@THEWINDTUNNEL You should do a voting poll when the time comes for the 2024 edition of The Ultimate Motorsports Race on which track should it be raced at. Can’t do Spa or Le Mans again since both tracks were used for the last two editions.
The line RB used entering straight too tight compared to dallara. Could go faster.
Didn't as more road to go flat out
that indycar not created for standing start
F1 cars arent created for straights
Definitely. 3 drivers lost control launching from the pits in last year's 500. You have to clutch it like crazy!
The durability of these IndyCars, body and internally, is astonishing. The way these cars can run at 225+ mph for 200 laps is bananas. And the skill it takes to handle these beast is something else 😮💨
100% agree. It's even more impressive when it goes wrong!
Next can you do this at the old monza oval
Not really surprising when you take into consideration what they were designed for, but still interesting to see play out. I like these comparisons, even if they are a little silly. Could be worse though. Put the F1 car against a Cup car at Martinsville, and put Matt Kenseth behind the wheel of the Cup car.
Should I put Logano in the F1 car then? 😏
@@THEWINDTUNNEL Someone's getting dumpstered either way.
This is wrong on so many levels... Geez! F1 car isn't designed to drive on ovals. Neither is the Indy 500 car speced as the road or street course Indycars... You might have compared the Long Beach spec with the Indy 500 spec car... Completely different animals...
The f1 car is in its one and only road course spec.
Indy cars have a speedway and a road course spec.
As we can’t just create an f1s speedway spec, What’s the result of f1 car vs indy car in road course spec?
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Indycar is mostly used in oval tracks with angle and F1 is mostly used from circuit tracks that is flat but F1 has good acceleration and Indycar has good top speed.
The Indy calendar is actually mostly road courses, only a few ovals per year.
Weight conversion for indycar is off. 720 kilo is about 1500-1600 lbs
This is not as fast as either of them can go bus as fast as it is allowed to by the regulations on safety grounds.
Remember when F1 cars had to race on grooved tires because that's how far the FIA had to go trying to slow them down to sane speeds.
Indycars don't do standing starts.
Should do an F1 car with Monza Spec/Low Downforce next
He did
thats what was in the video smartass
@@saltyaphid3195Then why did the F1 car go slower than it does at the Mexican Grand Prix?
@@billymays7210 air density. Mexico city is at a high altitude where the air is very thin
@@saltyaphid3195 Hmm, this simulation is factoring in air density?! besides, pretty sure the aero package would more than compensate for that on an oval vs a racetrack with lefts, rights, low speed turns, and braking zones…
Try Every car at Flugplatz flat out 😁😁
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El indycar
F1 didn't have drs on?
It did. The entire race.
Y solo en 2 vueltas ahora que compitieran en las 500 de Indianápolis 💀
Why the F1 was limited to 350kM/H?... it can do more than that... In Monza 360 is normal...
360 using the entire battery and with a tow. No tow here and and had to manage the electric juice for 8 km instead of a 1 km straight
Maaaaan that was a close finish
How did the indycar catch up to the Redbull car?
By having a higher top speed
@@THEWINDTUNNEL interesting.. considering the f1 has double its power
@@louiienation8497Indycars have a setup meant for oval tracks which it was using in this race while f1 is meant for more all types of tracks
@@louiienation8497 It also has a substantially higher drag coefficient.
the f1 wing are1 no correct for this circuit, less wing and the f1 win
It had the lowest downforce setup
Standing start for this is not it. The IndyCar lost most of it's time because of that. Still a cool comparison tho.
Agreed. If you're running the oval, it has to be a rolling start. Only F1 on the road course uses a standing start.
You're not wrong, but this is all about entertainment. You know the IndyCar would've destroyed it with a rolling start.
As i said in another similar video years ago. The F1 may do 10 laps at full throttle before exploding, those engines are not made to last a lot
Current F1 power units can now last up to at least 6 race weekends before needing replacing
@@AdamTheMan1993were talking 230mph for 200 laps….f1 can’t do that
@@mabelpup8502 Cause it hasn't been proven irl yet
@@AdamTheMan1993 The engines probably could do it if they were tuned right but they would need to run way less power than normal just to last the distance. Additionally the 6-7 races per engine takes into account that the cars are not flat out at 12000 RPMs the entire distance.
Don't get me wrong I would love to see it be tried.
@@AdamTheMan1993not redlining for over 2 hours
Aima
Indy 500 uses a rolling start. Would like to see that over 1 lap instead of 2 with tue standing start,
Now do the F2 car with its road course setup on, or take the aero off the F1 car.
less aero on the F1 and it wins. You can even trim down the HP and limit the revs
It's like a Cheetah and a Tuna doing a swimming race 😂
More or less 😂
F1 does 230 at the Mexican Grand Prix, but only 219 on an oval?! 🤣
air density is why speeds are so high in mexico and also it’s a game
That Mexico GP video you mean:
- Lower air density because of the altitude.
- 2016 cars (less aero, thinner tyres = less drag)
- A monster tow
- Overtake ERS mode instead of a ballanced mode that has to last 2 full laps flat out.
@@THEWINDTUNNEL Yes. Also right turns, left turns, low speed corners, braking zones. Does your game factor in air density? If so, that’s impressive.
Already many comments defending the Indy Car, probably because it is the "murican" sport. (I would prefer to call it the Hoosier sport, but we know that the states do not exist according to most people)
I don’t know man, a lot of these comments are trying to defend the Formula 1 car.
Now add ERS to the F1 😂
If the brains at Mercedes or Ferrari wanted to design a car that went round in circles all the time it would beat the ass of a fucking Indycar...
I was rooting for f1 lol only 0.14 seconds in it 😂
Why a standing start? Should've been a rolling start
F1 should be at least 370kph which is its maximum speed with vacuum and DRS
The current cars don't get to 370 km/h, even with a huge tow. Had to use a ballanced mode for the ERS to have energy for 2 laps without braking. With the "overtake" mode it would've runned out electric energy before it got to T3 in lap 1. Would've struggled to go over 330 km/h the rest of the race.
Did you run it with lowest aero possible?
@@loganm2766 so many people trying to make excuses for the f1 car. Why is it so hard to admit that a car with an aero package specifically designed for superspeedways is much faster on superspeedways?
@@MrJohansen I know the Indycar is no doubt faster but the f1 needs to be given a fair shot. It should be running wings as low as possible
@@loganm2766 make it fair for both. Give the RB 20 a better aero and the IR18 a not standing start, gap is gonna be bigger 😭