"Why is there nothing between 1972 and 1995?" Well, ufortunately there's not a single car from those years in Assetto Corsa. So disappointing because it would have been very interesting. Hope you still enjoyed the video!
On top of that, those early cars dropped so much oil, the bricks would get slick. I remember seeing footage of track workers shoveling sand onto the track in the corners to soak up some of that oil, and so the tires could get something resembling grip. And you and your riding mechanic are out there with leather helmets, oil-stained goggles, bouncing along for hours at 100 mph with safety not even being a second thought. It's a miracle that there were actually some death-free races in the early days.
Good Gravy! If CART had run at Indy between 1996 and 2003, people might have died! These speeds, so close to concrete walls, before mandatory HANS (until 2001) and before SAFER-Barriers would have been completely irresponsible!
I was there on Pole Day 1996 and over the loudspeaker they announced that Arie had been clocked at 250 mph going into three by the radar gun. That sent a buzz thru the chilly crowd that morning.
What's my favorite? All the years in the 80s and early 90s that no one seems bothered to make mods for, for some reason. 1995 was the end of the road, it's just another race now. The cars themselves certainly don't matter anymore.
Actually racing prewar indycars in anger on the modern surface would be an incredible thing. But their rarity and the sheer danger means it would only be possible in AC or iracing
Probably more of them could lap it but at a slower time. F1 is more about braking, acceleration and downforce but that comes with a tradeoff we call drag.
These are some of the most enjoyable videos on TH-cam. Genuine thanks for doing them. It would be interesting if someone could do a cost analysis on the wrecked cars to see how much it would take to repair them all.
That was a cool video and I don’t play simulators other than an XBOX with a controller. I admire the amount of detail that has to go into that level of detail with previous generation cars.
Funny idea 😊. I‘ld Like to see the 94-Penske-1000hp-monster if available. Also: I guess there are no mods available but a comparison of the chassis submissions competing with the DW-12 would be interesting.
Sunbeam: managable power and solid handling for the fact there werent any wings or downforce stuff on this car. successful attemp Studebaker: not managable power and crappy handling, failed attemp Maserati: not managable power and not good handling, failed attemp Ferrari: same problem like the maserati, failed attemp Offy: same problem, failed attemp. they definately need downforce. Lotus: same problem, failed attemp. Lotus 56: same problem, failed attemp Mclaren: Winges werent enough for handling, failed attemp Reynard: was designed to full throttle indy the hole time and enough downforce and speed, sucessful attemp Dallara IR-05: was designed to full throttle indy, successful attemp Dakkara DW12: same as reyynard and 2008 Dallara, sucessful attemp 2024 Dallara: same as the other modern cars, sucessful attemp Bonus car: its cool
If you told an engineer from the 30s that it was possible to take the Indianapolis curves at almost 230mph he would probably laugh in your face. Today we know that aerodynamics is the fundamental piece for motor sports...
@@THEWINDTUNNEL arent these ones paid? though if they are I believe there is a reddit page where they do requests asking for these or posting them on MEGA files
@@insertal3967 I'd suggest paying for the mods if you can. The ones by those 3 groups are well worth the price for their quality, and the money they get from sales is what funds future modding projects.
The 1920's cars impress me once again,like how do they manage to beat cars from the 70's when going flat out?That's what I meant in the last flat-out-video.
I kind of knew this already.But cars from a few years later are also not much faster than the 20's car,yet they can't make it flat-out,there should be something else that allows the 20's one to go flat-out(or maybe I’m kinda biased with 20’s cars😅)
@@FormulaAnything It's because of how they achieved that extra speed. The first 20s car that could go flat out was slow and infinitely lighter than the cars in the 30s. The engines just kept getting bigger each time they got more powerful and became incredibly heavy. The tyre technology never really improved at anywhere near the same speed. So the reason they can't got flat-out when the 20s car could is simply because of the weight difference. The speeds are only 10-20mph faster, but the weight of the motors almost doubled in that time, and the tyres aren't really any different, minus the rims being more durable/heavy. The heavier a car is, the harder it is for it to change directions (and the slower it needs to go to do so).
Can’t go flat out with skinny tires! Into the USAC era, Indycars still ran half their schedule at dirt tracks. One of my favorite fun facts of the 500 is that before Troy Ruttman won, he’d run almost entirely on dirt ovals. If you go watch the footage, he still drove around IMS using dirt track techniques.
I guess if you had downshifted to slow down in the turns like you did with the newer cars then the older cars may have had a better chance of making the turns.
Well, dang. Why was anyone using something different from the Sunbeam up until 1995? That slow car was the only one finishing for 70 years?! What an achievement! How does one sell tickets to an event like that? /s
This is a little unrealistic. I know the Lotus 29. Much like it's F1 counter part. Could lap Indy at full throttle. The the only issue is once you set the suspension and tires up. The tire wear is so high. You would lose car control rather quickly.
could of just put the 70's cars to onwards but course he has to put the early era too 😅 it's like the beamng players picking on the tesla when they do an experiment
Imagine The 2000 Reynard 2KI With Same Power of The Modern F1 Car 1.050 HP 💀 Imagine The Speed!! *my English is not the best but, I go to improve this ❤
Seems like some you were turning a little late on some cars or took the wrong line. Tbh I really don't know, just my noob observation Also, I enjoy AC, fun to drive random cars on random tracks
It’s not braking when the engine is WFO. Lugging in the higher gear will lead to less HP at the wheel. Slowing down with gears works when used in conjunction with closed throttle. It makes use of the light braking available from compression.
What's your favourite IndyCar era?
90s/2000s mad speed era. That Arie Luyendyk still has the lap record that he set in 1996 is madness.
90s CART has got to be my favourite, despite me not being alive back then.
1990's/2000's
Late 2000s & early 2010s!
Before 2012
"Why is there nothing between 1972 and 1995?" Well, ufortunately there's not a single car from those years in Assetto Corsa. So disappointing because it would have been very interesting. Hope you still enjoyed the video!
Why is the 2k1 not shown in the timeline?
@@corwintipper7317 it never raced at Indianapolis, was during the split.
There is a 1995 cart mod somewhere
VRC have a 1995 mod I'm pretty sure. I used to have it before I had to reset my game
@@scalemodelbuilder9510 he said a mod between 1972 and 1995
200 MPH IN THE 60S IS TERRIFYING TO THINK ABOUT
Yeah, that was before everyone is going rogue on going fast decades later.
Shadow told me U got laundry at home
Wait till you hear about the races at AVUS in the 1930s where they did 220mph.
@@mancantswim66191 Bruh...
ah good ol' days, when "don't die" is optional
1920 : Our tractor are fine with the whole track
1930 : Noooo my tractor!!
They probably didn't even know if the cars in the 20's were able to go flat out when they were racing them back then.
Imagine the older cars in the brick surface…
I already imagined that 💀
Not fun at all
Imagine the new cars on the bricks!
On top of that, those early cars dropped so much oil, the bricks would get slick. I remember seeing footage of track workers shoveling sand onto the track in the corners to soak up some of that oil, and so the tires could get something resembling grip. And you and your riding mechanic are out there with leather helmets, oil-stained goggles, bouncing along for hours at 100 mph with safety not even being a second thought. It's a miracle that there were actually some death-free races in the early days.
It seems that the 1923 car was pretty advanced.
It took the better part of a century until the cars could take the oval flat out again 😎
It was just underpowered 😅
I would say that engine power and performance increased much faster than tire and downforce advancements by a long shot.
It is a tragedy that we never got to see those late 90’s-early 00’s CART cars unleashed on Indy.
Thanks Tony George 🤦🏻♂️
Yeah but they did manage 240mph at Fontana in 1997 and 2000.
@@keironstoneman6938 Gugelmin in 1997 and Gil de Ferran in 01.
@@ryanfraley7113I despise him.
The late 90s CARTs were the most beautiful racing cars I've seen till this day.
The way the Lotus 56 crashed was the exact way in which Mike Spence died
The Studebaker's crash reminded me of Rosenqvist's wreck at last year's Indy 500.
Yeah, luckily Kirkwood wasn't around
Good Gravy! If CART had run at Indy between 1996 and 2003, people might have died! These speeds, so close to concrete walls, before mandatory HANS (until 2001) and before SAFER-Barriers would have been completely irresponsible!
That Lotus 68 was a bullet!!! 😱
I think of you search it up youll find it had a literal turbine engine instead of a usual V8, V10, V6 or whatever.
@@leejefferson5373bro how...
Yeah, like 2-3 of them or something like that.
Did they not have Arie Luyendyk's car from 1996? That's who currently holds the qualifying record at 236.986MPH.
I was there on Pole Day 1996 and over the loudspeaker they announced that Arie had been clocked at 250 mph going into three by the radar gun. That sent a buzz thru the chilly crowd that morning.
That last unrestricted lap! Wow!
Hitting 250+ at Indy would be crazy!!! (tires gone in 4 laps, though)
When the McLaren M16B was driving. I kept thinking there was a hair on my phone screen. It was just the windshield outline. 3:57
Hahaha
That was really cool. I would really not be wanting to do the speeds the old cars were doing, in the old cars. Those guys had balls.
What the hell kind off engine did the Lotus 56 run that it was capable of 45.000 rpm?
Gas turbine engine
What's my favorite? All the years in the 80s and early 90s that no one seems bothered to make mods for, for some reason. 1995 was the end of the road, it's just another race now. The cars themselves certainly don't matter anymore.
Actually racing prewar indycars in anger on the modern surface would be an incredible thing. But their rarity and the sheer danger means it would only be possible in AC or iracing
And what about the deltaWing? If that car was planned for IndyCar ¿How will it performance in the indy 500?
bad, to put it nicely. the deltawing, as a racecar, was crap.
@@DW98rosy I don't doubt that, but I think it will be funny to se how it supposed to performance
U should do which f1 eras and which racing cars can lap indy flat out
Which lemans eras
Definitely doing it
@@THEWINDTUNNEL really? That would be awesome
Probably more of them could lap it but at a slower time. F1 is more about braking, acceleration and downforce but that comes with a tradeoff we call drag.
These are some of the most enjoyable videos on TH-cam. Genuine thanks for doing them. It would be interesting if someone could do a cost analysis on the wrecked cars to see how much it would take to repair them all.
The Champcar speed in a draft would be like 430kph. Suicide!
Glad you included the turbine-driven Lotus 56. A car that many people forget about, but it's still a big part of Indy 500 history.
If you do another Indy experiment, then I recommend adding an 80s CART car as well. (That is if a mod for it is available.)
I'll redo this video once there's a couple cars filling the gap between 1972 and 1995
@@THEWINDTUNNEL Thanks👍
Awesome video you should do some test runs at Talladega with those same cars. That would be interesting
That was a cool video and I don’t play simulators other than an XBOX with a controller. I admire the amount of detail that has to go into that level of detail with previous generation cars.
Funny idea 😊. I‘ld Like to see the 94-Penske-1000hp-monster if available.
Also: I guess there are no mods available but a comparison of the chassis submissions competing with the DW-12 would be interesting.
Sunbeam: managable power and solid handling for the fact there werent any wings or downforce stuff on this car. successful attemp
Studebaker: not managable power and crappy handling, failed attemp
Maserati: not managable power and not good handling, failed attemp
Ferrari: same problem like the maserati, failed attemp
Offy: same problem, failed attemp. they definately need downforce.
Lotus: same problem, failed attemp.
Lotus 56: same problem, failed attemp
Mclaren: Winges werent enough for handling, failed attemp
Reynard: was designed to full throttle indy the hole time and enough downforce and speed, sucessful attemp
Dallara IR-05: was designed to full throttle indy, successful attemp
Dakkara DW12: same as reyynard and 2008 Dallara, sucessful attemp
2024 Dallara: same as the other modern cars, sucessful attemp
Bonus car: its cool
Wow that Maserati looks an sounds advanced for it's time.
If you told an engineer from the 30s that it was possible to take the Indianapolis curves at almost 230mph he would probably laugh in your face. Today we know that aerodynamics is the fundamental piece for motor sports...
What is that app on the top left that shows track limits?
An impressive IndyCar feeling
1:56 that sounded expensive
Ask the insurance lol
3:16
I can never get a clean lap with this car project cars 2 lol
Put the reynard 95I on Daytona to see the maximum speed pls
are you taking the best line into the first turn?
Not sure the 2000 Reynard would be quite that fast, but curious to see what they could have done.
They were crazy fast, just look at the Fontana pole that year... Mind blowing!
where do you get all the mods from? i use assetto world but there's not really that much
VRC, RSS & URD
@@THEWINDTUNNEL arent these ones paid? though if they are I believe there is a reddit page where they do requests asking for these or posting them on MEGA files
@@insertal3967 I'd suggest paying for the mods if you can. The ones by those 3 groups are well worth the price for their quality, and the money they get from sales is what funds future modding projects.
What is a track mod link?
bro can you please also put MPH? what the fuck is a kilometer?
How did you get the replays to work correctly. The replays i get here are beneath the ground
The 1920's cars impress me once again,like how do they manage to beat cars from the 70's when going flat out?That's what I meant in the last flat-out-video.
Because they get there so slow, that simple
I kind of knew this already.But cars from a few years later are also not much faster than the 20's car,yet they can't make it flat-out,there should be something else that allows the 20's one to go flat-out(or maybe I’m kinda biased with 20’s cars😅)
@@FormulaAnything It's because of how they achieved that extra speed. The first 20s car that could go flat out was slow and infinitely lighter than the cars in the 30s. The engines just kept getting bigger each time they got more powerful and became incredibly heavy. The tyre technology never really improved at anywhere near the same speed.
So the reason they can't got flat-out when the 20s car could is simply because of the weight difference. The speeds are only 10-20mph faster, but the weight of the motors almost doubled in that time, and the tyres aren't really any different, minus the rims being more durable/heavy. The heavier a car is, the harder it is for it to change directions (and the slower it needs to go to do so).
@@Db_SpaceFace Thx
What was the last car shown?
Seeing the lap times would have been interesting. The last 2 were insanely fast.
Can’t go flat out with skinny tires! Into the USAC era, Indycars still ran half their schedule at dirt tracks. One of my favorite fun facts of the 500 is that before Troy Ruttman won, he’d run almost entirely on dirt ovals. If you go watch the footage, he still drove around IMS using dirt track techniques.
Do you have the links for these mods?
Why a 1950s ferrari 375 F1 CAR?!
The Indy 500 was part of the Formula 1 World Championship in the 50s!
Does shifting gears count as "flat out"?
Yeah, it's just to have higher revs and more power available
Arguably even more so given the speed with be lower if you lug it in a higher gear.
What program are yiy using to simulate all of this?
Assetto Corsa
What sim are you using?
I wish you showed an IRL and CART car from the late 90s.
5 G's in the 2024 car? i think i can handle that!
Who wouldn't know that the ground effects monsters could? Would have liked to see (hear) the Novi.
i knew indy's were hella fast but i had no idea they could break 250mph thats just nuts
They are literally fighter jets on wheels!
@@THEWINDTUNNEL seems like it
Where did you get this track from?
The horsepower to top speed ratio is a good predictor once the bicycle wheels go away
Hey that's pretty accurate, never thought about it!
You missed Brabham’s Cooper which was an excellent handling car.
1960 was a Kurtis Kraft, almost all those cars had offys
You're turning in too early, that's putting you into the wall.
My friend, you killed several virtual drivers to make this video. Congrats
Cart/Champ Car era.
track link??
you should race every nascar from each era against eachother at daytona
Can I get this game or something similar on PS5 ,Or is this just strictly PC ?
Last one just makes me sad about the split again 😢
Where's the Turbo snail? It should be in this video too 😅
Indy Drivers in 1900:
Whata speeeeeeeeeeeeeeed 😂
That's quite the spike in speed and power from 1932 to 1938 :c
Whats your radar? Looks neat want to put it in my AC
It's CSP's default radar
I guess if you had downshifted to slow down in the turns like you did with the newer cars then the older cars may have had a better chance of making the turns.
I didn't downsift to slow down, It's just to rev higher and have more power which makes going flat out even harder
what is the name of the radar mod?
Is this GPL modded?
Didn't they have to cancel an indy race one time because the speeds were too high and the drivers felt unsafe?
the early days aka the coffin cars were already made in case a fatal accident happened... same to the grand prix era cars.
THE WIND TUNNEL, Wow, this made my day brighter! Thank you!
I love your vids
Well, dang. Why was anyone using something different from the Sunbeam up until 1995? That slow car was the only one finishing for 70 years?! What an achievement! How does one sell tickets to an event like that? /s
The thing is: 108hp was too less power to let the car slide like the other cars until 1972, which had at least double the power
@@lordracer7743 Thank you, but I was playing around... The '/s' means 'end sarcasm.'
Not sure why Indy cars ever went away from engines that sound like actual engines like NASCAR
Game???
All eras can lap Indy flat out.
should have tried a 1972 AAR Eagle
This is a little unrealistic. I know the Lotus 29. Much like it's F1 counter part. Could lap Indy at full throttle. The the only issue is once you set the suspension and tires up. The tire wear is so high. You would lose car control rather quickly.
Dat early turn in tho
You keep overcorrecting the oversteer which is what a lot of these cars need to get through t1.
I would say anything before 1966
In America use mph.
So, high speed on skinny, hard tires with no down force is bad. Who'da thunk it?
What is this game?
Assetto corsa
☝🏻
could of just put the 70's cars to onwards but course he has to put the early era too 😅 it's like the beamng players picking on the tesla when they do an experiment
Imagine The 2000 Reynard 2KI With Same Power of The Modern F1 Car 1.050 HP 💀
Imagine The Speed!!
*my English is not the best but, I go to improve this ❤
Weird. Seeing alot of F1 cars, and not Indy Cars. 🤔
Seems like some you were turning a little late on some cars or took the wrong line. Tbh I really don't know, just my noob observation
Also, I enjoy AC, fun to drive random cars on random tracks
Nevermind
Interesting
I'm gonna sleep !
Sweet dreams!
A bit of 'cheating' in there. Downshifting is essentially braking so while accelerator is 100%, it isn't "flat out"
Nah, it's just to gain extra revs, that means more power and a tougher time to make it flat
It’s not braking when the engine is WFO. Lugging in the higher gear will lead to less HP at the wheel.
Slowing down with gears works when used in conjunction with closed throttle. It makes use of the light braking available from compression.
Why no mph🦅🦅🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸
Edit I found it but it’s tiny
Lotus 56 44000rpm💀💀
Power is incorrect on recent cars. They're 750hp without push to pass.
@F_Nipponic01 I guess they'd all crash at Indy with that much power.
Down shifting is cheating.
how
@@NASCARfans-b3j if you're downshifting, you're not going flat out.
CART SHOWS THE 90S WAS PEAK MOTORSPORT