Capture devices are cool and all, but for my show I find it's much easier to use a TH-cam video downloader to steal footage from channels like yours and Coury's, and then just plagiarize Wikipedia when writing my scripts. Work smarter, not harder.
Holy crap that ending. I've never seen Corey try to ham it up like that before. Maybe that's why his neck muscles were all trying to escape, they weren't used to that kind of exertion.
Dude Joe the Trashcan Mac has Thunderbolt, does it not? Snag an external PCI-E enclosure, you can use every internal card you want with it! There’s even rackmount computer cases that have the Thunderbolt PCI-E built in. Check it out. Don’t stick urself with the HD60s, you can get a Magewell or other internal 4:4:4 card and have significantly better image stability and performance.
@@zxcvb_bvcxz There are different enclosures you can get, depending on your card needs and Thunderbolt connection options (TB1-3), but I have a Sonnet Echo Express SE I with a Blackmagic DeckLink 4K plugged into a 2012 i7 Mac mini. I can capture full 1080p60 in Prores 422 or uncompressed, but higher quality flavors of Prores (422 HQ, 4444) max out the CPU and then I start to drop frames. But this isn't a Thunderbolt limitation, even on this nearly decade old TB1 Mac mini.
I had briefly considered that. I may do that after I get my next computer, depending on which computer that will be (spoiler, it'll be a Mac... but not certain which one now except that it will be M1). Mac Pro trash can is limited to wimpy Thunderbolt 2 anyway which is old and slow, like myself.
@@Modokun You can see it in his face. Joe seems fed up. I understand him, it takes a lot of energy to maintain this channel for so long. What else can he even talk about?
It seems like these types of Game Sack videos are the least watched and that's a shame because I find them the most helpful. Because of this I just bought the Startech pexhdcap60L capture card. Thanks for taking the time to make this even though most people don't seem to appreciate it, I certainly do.
The Sega CD commercial at the end was great! Also this video was informative as someone who also owns various dongles, up-scalers, and capture devices.
Love to see some of my favorite youtubers teaming up for videos like this. If DF, MLIG, GameSack, MVG, RMC formed like Voltron for an episode or panel on something, I'm pretty sure YT would implode from the sheer awesomeness of the combo ^-^ Thanks for bringing the quality, amigos.
I know this video is 2+ years old and y’all may hate each other now, but the episodes where you’ve teamed up with MLiG are fantastic. I don’t even give a shit about capture cards or upscalers, I just love kicking back and watching you guys (both channels) talk about tech nonsense. It’s quite soothing to my very vacant soul. Thanks Joe (and Coury & Try for that matter) for doing what you do. It’s become very important to me and I’m barely a gamer.
Sweet, your first brand new episode since I found your channel. Now I can be among the thousands who say they _were_ gonna go to bed but then you went and uploaded (meanwhile, UK gets to watch this over Sunday breakfast and Australia are in the late afternoon, amirite??) Joe, would you consider doing an episode on various console operating systems: their aesthetics, their features, how they handle memory cards, the ambient audio, the nifty screensavers, the backwards compatibility, whether they'll play audio CDs and rip MP3s?
Fun fact about the HD60 - it technically does have an onboard encoder, but the onboard encoder only works if you're using Elgato's native software and the Master Copy mode. It's basically only in there in case you want to do a live stream but also want to record a local clean Master Copy of your game footage without all of the overlays and webcam, etc. When using it for streaming - your computer is still doing the work of encoding the video footage alongside your webcam, overlays, etc. while the onboard encoder chip does the work of encoding the Master Copy clean game footage. Two separate encoding processes in that scenario (#1 the feed going out to your stream with footage, overlays, webcam, etc and #2 the Master Copy of just the game footage being recorded locally). But again that only works if you're using Elgato's software. If you just want to record a clean copy of the footage, you'd have to use Elgato's software and enable Master Copy mode so that the card is actually doing the encoding work. If you use OBS or another third party program to stream with this card or even just to try to record clean footage, it will do so in the traditional way of just translating the incoming HDMI signal into something your computer can recognize and then letting your computer's resources do all of the work of actually encoding the H.264 video file. No way to utilize the functionality of the Master Copy onboard encoder chip without subjecting yourself to Elgato's sketchy software and it's VFR / AV sync issues. Well .... I guess it wasn't a fun fact. It was kind of boring and sad really. Also it's too bad Elgato's software sucks turkeys because it's a really solid card that I got a lot of use out of over the years.
The Avermedia Live Gamer Portable 2 was the first capture device I bought as well, and was lured in by the ability to record gameplay directly without a PC connection. I still use it to this day for streaming and to capture game footage.
Oh man the Sony DCMC-DA1 was my first capture device as well for VHS and S-VHS captures. I still have and use it for that. For games I use the Elgato HD60 Pro internal card. I use mostly Analogue/RetroUSB clone consoles for capture with it for my retro games but have also used it with my Retrotink2x with my Saturn and PC Engine. For my purposes it works wonderfully. Always awesome to see you collab with the MLiG guys and vice versa. Love them and love you too, Joe! Thanks for making my weekend every other Saturday!
@@GameSack I'm using an HD60S+ now and, it's kind of good? All resolutions of the OSSC works, incluiding 960p and 1200p and they are properly what the OSSC is sending, not scaled, even 240p passtrough, PSP mode and 480i line 3x laced works too. Since it's UVC it should work on Mac and even Linux too. Only problems is when using something like OBS (which you'll have to as elgato apps will tell not "supported" if it's not standard with the exception of 240p) if the resolution switches, you have to deactivate and activate the device on OBS or other app with the button here to get the signal after the resolution switch, not sure if it's possible to fix that as switching resolutions works fine on elgato app and it kind of works on Discord too, not annoying in much cases unless is a game with 480i menus and 240p gameplay, but something like the TINK5x should fix this, maybe setting the scaling of both to 480p on the OSSC will work? But not sure since I haven't tested it. And with SNES (possibly NES too) it kind of works and doesn't, Generic 4:3 works fine with all except 4x as a stutter image will show a bit on 4x, but all others work fine; with optimal timings instead the jitter signal will be a problem except for Line 5x that works fine for some reason? As far as I know if you have the dejitter mod this won't happen.
Fools! Now I know all your secrets and will start my own channel “My Life in a Gaming Sack” and then I will be the one who will uhhh...wow editing this into something coherent is a lot of work. Never mind, knowing capture was a third of the battle, the rest is a ton of effort.
This was a really informative and interesting episode to watch. It's awesome to see what devices you used when you started the channel 10 years ago and seeing the evolution in capture cards. I use an Elgato HD60 for capturing my GameCube content for the channel, and I also noticed audio drift when recording extended gameplay of 25-30+ minutes. I learned that if you shut off the preview feature, the Elgato has no issue with audio drifting, but I may have to try that line of code they provided you for the 4K60S+. Awesome video as always, Joe!
Magewell is serious business. I built a few computers in 2017 for the broadcasting classes at the school district I work at. They needed 4 cameras to be recorded. I got the Pro Capture Quad HDMI (the 4K one wasn't out yet). It was $900, but man, it works well, hasn't given a hitch. We feed 3 cameras and a Chromebook into it.
My setup is one I never hear anyone talk about - an Epiphan DVI2USB 3.0. Has DVI and VGA input, 24-bit RGB color capture, and integrates well with most recording software out there. Mine is connected to a Micomsoft XRGB-3 linedoubler over VGA.
I really love the portable gamer 2. It's been a great quality of life capture card for me. Gets me out of the office cave and I don't have to worry about losing a chance to capture footage.
I don´t know sh*t about upscalers, resolutions or any technical mumbo jumbo. I just play the games. But I appreciate the quality videos Joe puts together. Have a Like good man.
I am learning so much from this video...not to say I haven't learned form your channel already but I stream multiple consoles and I just want clean video and I'm getting there. Game Sack FTW!!
That was a great video. 👍 While I have no need to get any of these devices just yet, it is great to be all technical and get an insight into how you manage to capture your game footage. My youngest son is very keen to start a channel here on TH-cam, so I may need to invest in one or two in the future. Happily, the amount of technical knowledge and equipment needed hasn't put the boy off at all, and I put that down to the way you and the MLIG fellas talk about these things. A complicated subject, but never made over complicated at all. Great stuff and thanks for the insight. 👍 ... Still giggling at the ending skit too. I'm a fan of your humour too. 😂
the end credit of sega cd ad was perfect. i used a avermedia 4k live gamer capture card and i love it. only down fall is the snes and genesis games do have some frame rate issue on certain games. but i love that capture card to death. it work really well with obs too. i did find a go around on the snes/genesis frame rate issue but adding a m-classic adapter at the end of the hdmi and set it as retro mode which help it out alot to upscale abit and have it set for it 4:3 then it 16:9 screen setting. overall this card is great to used and good for a budget if your looking to stream.
Love Startech gear. Good stuff for the price! Have had a bunch of issues with black magic gear despite the reputation and prevalence in the A/V industry.
I just wanna say that like most people I have been feeling really down lately , I guess with the current state of the world. Anyway I truly look forward to watching you every Sunday evening before I get prepared for the coming work week. As I went to start this comment I also noticed that I had been unsubbed from you so lucky I was still getting your videos every week. Thanks for the content. Keep up the good work.
i myself use two Cloner Alliance HDML cloner box evolve devices for my captures and livestreams. they will record to sd-card, usb-stick or usb harddisk as well as stream the capture info to pc (no mac drivers) via usb 3.0 as fas as inputs go, this device has two hdmi inputs, one composite input via jackplug and one hdmi output , a jackplug input for microphone and a headphone jackplug output. you are already aware of the devices menusystem since you use another cloner alliance device. only for non-composite signals (RF signals) i need an external device like a VCR to convert it to composite .
My first capture device was my DVD Recorder, I would feed all my consoles through RCA splitters, record onto discs and copy the footage to my PC. The quality was what you expect from RCA, but it wasn't helped with issues with the PAL format on my Recorder making the picture all squished and such. I finally got an Avermedia LGP1 back a few years ago and it has served me well for years with that big blue button letting me go right to recording, the major gripe its 720p60 but only 1080p30 which was why I was looking at an LGP2 before you mentioned the issue with Davinci, I exclusively edit with that nowadays so I'd hate to have to Handbrake everything I capture
I was wondering, why is Coury still alive in the end skit when three years ago Joe knocked him out to get his Britney's Dance Beat in the previous Game Sack/MLiG skit? Anyway happy fourth of July though.
Yup, that's the thing about upscalers vs linedoublers. The Framemeister was a legit upscaling device while the OSSC was a linedoubler. Much simpler & cheaper to implement but does not always play nice with displays or capture devices. I wonder if the new RetroTINK 5X is faring better when it comes to capture devices as it is too a linedoubler.
With the Triple Buffer mode engaged, the Retrotink 5X plays nice with basically anything you throw at it. Frame Lock mode is about as tricky as the OSSC.
@@AceTrainerX3 A nice feature to have, but adds a frame or two of extra lag does it not? Still, I suppose it's a small price to pay for compatibility if needed. Bet plenty of ppl out there don't even realize that you should not have triple buffer turned on if your equipment works without it. On a side note, one thing I'd really love to be added to the Tink 5x is a manual phase adjustment so it can be tweaked if the user so wishes, just like the OSSC can be.
I cannot afford upscalers and I have an old Elgato Game Capture HD that I bought refurbished years ago on the cheap. I'd probably use my Retro consoles more if upscaling wasn't such an unmitigated nightmare of input delay, hardware fuss, exorbatant price, and hardware availability. I love my 3DO in a strange sort of way and I'd want to show my friends more of it, or capture my NES and SNES stuff (or my cousin's NES stuff. he has a copy of Panic Restaurant among his stuff!), but I don't have $300 to throw at a Retrotink 5x and however much more for a capture card that can capture at 1080 60FPS. I suppose you can write these sorts of things off as business expenses on your taxes, but I'm just an enthusiast who primarily draws art for the internet.
I got the HD60 Pro and was not satisfied with my purchase. I watched so many reviews of the device over a few months and not one motioned the chroma sub sampling it does on both the preview and pass-through.
So I started on an old Happauge card that had RF input (WinTV HVR-1265), then I jumped to the Black Magic Shuttle but I found the limitations infuriating. Next was the AVerMedia C027 PCIe HD (got it for free, but it maxes out at 1080i30) and it did well but I finally settled on the AVerMedia LIve Gamer Portable C875 because You can use custom software to capture PS3 footage without having to play the HDMI splitter lottery. I knwo it is only 1080p30 but it suits my needs. I have a coulbe of those Camlink Knockoffs and they work fine too for needing something ultra portable, but for now I am going to stick with the C875.
So after looking at this and the scaler video it seems like the best bang for my buck setup would be to connect my systems to an retrotink 5x (RGB video if possible) and run that signal through a Magewell card. Of course, until I have that money, I think I'll stick to capturing from a retron 5 with an HD PVR2
Hi Joe, I wonder if showing the retro gaming captures without any scanlines is a limitation of any video capture devices that you use or just your own choice. I would extend this question even to all your videos that I have watched. (Great job! like always) Thanks
Being a Linux user has its privileges, such as the constant sense of superiority and the feeling of being smug and condescending towards those trapped in the Win/Mac paradigm. However when it comes to video capture devices, there aren't a whole lot to choose from. My Avermedia DVD EZMaker USB Gold that I used to make plenty of 480 resolution S-video retro gaming videos back when I used to create such content no longer works. I'll need to do my homework before I can ever make such videos again.
I have a Pinnacle USB TV-Tuner with composite and audio jack which I got to record TV shows in the analog TV days. Actually tried to play WiiSports with this thing once which also worked albeit latency was there. From all devices something small USB based would suit my needs probably the best, so I can play Switch inside a window on my computer but that's no priority and thus I wouldn't spend over 100 bucks on it.
JOE!!!!!! Do you think you could modify all your retro consoles with sound chips and triggers to produce a “SQUELCH” noise when you insert a cable/accessory?………😝
The Division is always online because it's an online service game (duh). Are you not familiar with that genre Joe? Once they ironed out the kinks, it was pretty fun with friends.
There's a single player mode where you don't need to play with online players, but the game still needs to be online. Who wants that? Thanks for being condescending though.
Capture devices are cool and all, but for my show I find it's much easier to use a TH-cam video downloader to steal footage from channels like yours and Coury's, and then just plagiarize Wikipedia when writing my scripts. Work smarter, not harder.
A true Renaissance man.
Me too
Profit.
That's smart
Bruh. Not sure why these idiots spend days making this stuff.
"I wonder if Tom Clancy owns an Elgato HD60."
You're the best, Joe.
No capture device can perfectly capture the majesty of Pebble Beach.
So honored to share... I mean borrow, the same first name from you.
Think you can get it inside mine?
@@ChadDidNothingWrong I know I can.
Get out of here Craig!!
@@DiGiTyDarKMaN I cannot escape the confines of your mind. You must first let me out.
I work 3rd shift on the east coast and my lunch is right when Gamesack drops their videos most of the time. It's perfect.
I have spent the last 5 minuets laughing at that end skit.
Just amazing.
That ending made this video a classic.
Well I wanna see more! Haha.
Way more fun with a second person
Coury's neck muscles still flexing after the making of this video
I’d like to see you do a video about the minutiae of being a movie theater projectionist.
Yeah, wouldn’t it be cool if he was able to play Mario Kart 64 on that? Crazy!
@@0000-i1z Sure would but the theater he worked at is long gone :(
I'm not a projectionist, YOU ARE!!!
@@0000-i1z projectors he used would've been film so that would be impossible
@@jyoder1 that is way funnier then it's getting credit for 😂
definitely getting a Sega CD after that ad!
Holy crap that ending. I've never seen Corey try to ham it up like that before. Maybe that's why his neck muscles were all trying to escape, they weren't used to that kind of exertion.
00:47 Sony DVMC-DA1
02:50 BlackMagic Design Intensity Pro
04:35 BlackMagic Intensity Shuttle for Thunderbolt
05:34 StarTech PEXHDCAP
07:48 StarTech PEXHDCAP60L
09:48 StarTech USB3HDCAP
10:44 Elgato HD60
13:45 AVerMedia Live Gamer 4K
18:21 AVerMedia Live Gamer Portable 2
20:59 Cloner Alliance Box Pro
22:53 Elgato 4K60S+
27:14 Magewell Pro Capture HDMI 4K Plus
32:15 Magewell USB Capture HDMI Gen2
34:00 Reference Framerates
Thanks. I meant to do this before, but forgot. I've added it to the video.
Dude Joe the Trashcan Mac has Thunderbolt, does it not? Snag an external PCI-E enclosure, you can use every internal card you want with it! There’s even rackmount computer cases that have the Thunderbolt PCI-E built in. Check it out. Don’t stick urself with the HD60s, you can get a Magewell or other internal 4:4:4 card and have significantly better image stability and performance.
How many lanes are available via that Thunderbolt though?
@@zxcvb_bvcxz There are different enclosures you can get, depending on your card needs and Thunderbolt connection options (TB1-3), but I have a Sonnet Echo Express SE I with a Blackmagic DeckLink 4K plugged into a 2012 i7 Mac mini. I can capture full 1080p60 in Prores 422 or uncompressed, but higher quality flavors of Prores (422 HQ, 4444) max out the CPU and then I start to drop frames. But this isn't a Thunderbolt limitation, even on this nearly decade old TB1 Mac mini.
why do that when can instead spend $5000 on a new mac pro?????
Posting for visibility. This is exactly what TB is made for - internal bandwidth made available to external devices.
I had briefly considered that. I may do that after I get my next computer, depending on which computer that will be (spoiler, it'll be a Mac... but not certain which one now except that it will be M1). Mac Pro trash can is limited to wimpy Thunderbolt 2 anyway which is old and slow, like myself.
Alternative title for me: Joe and Corey Speak Greek for 36 minutes and 27 seconds.
Yep. Most of this is going completely over my head. Like the video anyway.
I can't put my finger on it, but Dave looks a little different somehow.
His rosacea is more inflamed. It comes from eating garbage trash food.
the channel's dying
@@Iliek no some people only get it. Ask woman. They get it more often than man.
@@Modokun You can see it in his face. Joe seems fed up. I understand him, it takes a lot of energy to maintain this channel for so long. What else can he even talk about?
@@Modokun you'll see, as time goes on
Bahaha, I live for the skits. Great one with Coury there.
It seems like these types of Game Sack videos are the least watched and that's a shame because I find them the most helpful. Because of this I just bought the Startech pexhdcap60L capture card. Thanks for taking the time to make this even though most people don't seem to appreciate it, I certainly do.
The Sega CD commercial at the end was great! Also this video was informative as someone who also owns various dongles, up-scalers, and capture devices.
I love when i see my life in gaming collaborations 💕
Love to see some of my favorite youtubers teaming up for videos like this. If DF, MLIG, GameSack, MVG, RMC formed like Voltron for an episode or panel on something, I'm pretty sure YT would implode from the sheer awesomeness of the combo ^-^
Thanks for bringing the quality, amigos.
Dude that Craig Statler line from pebble Beach golf on the Saturn made my day. "Think you can get it inside mine". To funny keep up the good work.
That counter-scrolling on the screen at 2:11 is a FLEX!
I know this video is 2+ years old and y’all may hate each other now, but the episodes where you’ve teamed up with MLiG are fantastic. I don’t even give a shit about capture cards or upscalers, I just love kicking back and watching you guys (both channels) talk about tech nonsense. It’s quite soothing to my very vacant soul. Thanks Joe (and Coury & Try for that matter) for doing what you do. It’s become very important to me and I’m barely a gamer.
35:53 Definitely the best post-credit sequence Game Sack has ever made.
Happy ID4 everyone! Let's enjoy this episode of GameSack!
happy idtech 4 day
Sweet, your first brand new episode since I found your channel. Now I can be among the thousands who say they _were_ gonna go to bed but then you went and uploaded (meanwhile, UK gets to watch this over Sunday breakfast and Australia are in the late afternoon, amirite??)
Joe, would you consider doing an episode on various console operating systems: their aesthetics, their features, how they handle memory cards, the ambient audio, the nifty screensavers, the backwards compatibility, whether they'll play audio CDs and rip MP3s?
Can't wait for Norm to do a Gaming Historian episode on the history of game sack.
No, a history of literal game sacks. The bags you get at game stores like Toys R Us, Funcoland, EB, etc.
He'd better!
Fun fact about the HD60 - it technically does have an onboard encoder, but the onboard encoder only works if you're using Elgato's native software and the Master Copy mode. It's basically only in there in case you want to do a live stream but also want to record a local clean Master Copy of your game footage without all of the overlays and webcam, etc. When using it for streaming - your computer is still doing the work of encoding the video footage alongside your webcam, overlays, etc. while the onboard encoder chip does the work of encoding the Master Copy clean game footage. Two separate encoding processes in that scenario (#1 the feed going out to your stream with footage, overlays, webcam, etc and #2 the Master Copy of just the game footage being recorded locally). But again that only works if you're using Elgato's software. If you just want to record a clean copy of the footage, you'd have to use Elgato's software and enable Master Copy mode so that the card is actually doing the encoding work.
If you use OBS or another third party program to stream with this card or even just to try to record clean footage, it will do so in the traditional way of just translating the incoming HDMI signal into something your computer can recognize and then letting your computer's resources do all of the work of actually encoding the H.264 video file. No way to utilize the functionality of the Master Copy onboard encoder chip without subjecting yourself to Elgato's sketchy software and it's VFR / AV sync issues.
Well .... I guess it wasn't a fun fact. It was kind of boring and sad really. Also it's too bad Elgato's software sucks turkeys because it's a really solid card that I got a lot of use out of over the years.
Well if it isn't My Life In Game Sack! Two great tastes that taste great together! :D
thank you game sack for making videos for us all still
The Avermedia Live Gamer Portable 2 was the first capture device I bought as well, and was lured in by the ability to record gameplay directly without a PC connection. I still use it to this day for streaming and to capture game footage.
Oh man the Sony DCMC-DA1 was my first capture device as well for VHS and S-VHS captures. I still have and use it for that. For games I use the Elgato HD60 Pro internal card. I use mostly Analogue/RetroUSB clone consoles for capture with it for my retro games but have also used it with my Retrotink2x with my Saturn and PC Engine. For my purposes it works wonderfully.
Always awesome to see you collab with the MLiG guys and vice versa. Love them and love you too, Joe! Thanks for making my weekend every other Saturday!
I use that external AverMedia device. Once you have it configured properly, it's a pretty solid bit of kit (at least for modern consoles) 👍
Oh man, this made my day!!!! Excellent work @Game Sack and "MLIG." This was a great collaboration.
The skits at the end never disappoint! Thanks guys! Cool AVGN reference. 😁
In case anyone is curious, the Elgato HD60s+ will work with OBS on a Mac without plugins. It still doesn’t play well with the OSSC though.
I've had people tell me the opposite. I wonder if there was some sort of hardware revision in the S+ that lets some of them see 960p.
@@GameSack Possibly although I've never seen an elgato accept 960p, especially if it's from the OSSC.
@@GameSack I'm using an HD60S+ now and, it's kind of good?
All resolutions of the OSSC works, incluiding 960p and 1200p and they are properly what the OSSC is sending, not scaled, even 240p passtrough, PSP mode and 480i line 3x laced works too. Since it's UVC it should work on Mac and even Linux too.
Only problems is when using something like OBS (which you'll have to as elgato apps will tell not "supported" if it's not standard with the exception of 240p) if the resolution switches, you have to deactivate and activate the device on OBS or other app with the button here to get the signal after the resolution switch, not sure if it's possible to fix that as switching resolutions works fine on elgato app and it kind of works on Discord too, not annoying in much cases unless is a game with 480i menus and 240p gameplay, but something like the TINK5x should fix this, maybe setting the scaling of both to 480p on the OSSC will work? But not sure since I haven't tested it.
And with SNES (possibly NES too) it kind of works and doesn't, Generic 4:3 works fine with all except 4x as a stutter image will show a bit on 4x, but all others work fine; with optimal timings instead the jitter signal will be a problem except for Line 5x that works fine for some reason? As far as I know if you have the dejitter mod this won't happen.
Love you Joe! Please never never stop uploading videos! I enjoy watching them every Sunday!
The crossover we didn't deserve but we more than appreciate it.
Love how you guys are the best at recording retro and new gameplay. Keep up the good work💯
Liked for the simple use of rage racers menu music. That is my favourite in the series and always overshadowed by r4
Rage Racer never gets the love it deserves
Fools! Now I know all your secrets and will start my own channel “My Life in a Gaming Sack” and then I will be the one who will uhhh...wow editing this into something coherent is a lot of work. Never mind, knowing capture was a third of the battle, the rest is a ton of effort.
This was a really informative and interesting episode to watch. It's awesome to see what devices you used when you started the channel 10 years ago and seeing the evolution in capture cards. I use an Elgato HD60 for capturing my GameCube content for the channel, and I also noticed audio drift when recording extended gameplay of 25-30+ minutes. I learned that if you shut off the preview feature, the Elgato has no issue with audio drifting, but I may have to try that line of code they provided you for the 4K60S+. Awesome video as always, Joe!
Magewell is serious business. I built a few computers in 2017 for the broadcasting classes at the school district I work at. They needed 4 cameras to be recorded. I got the Pro Capture Quad HDMI (the 4K one wasn't out yet). It was $900, but man, it works well, hasn't given a hitch. We feed 3 cameras and a Chromebook into it.
"Please stop asking me that Mr. Stadler"
My setup is one I never hear anyone talk about - an Epiphan DVI2USB 3.0. Has DVI and VGA input, 24-bit RGB color capture, and integrates well with most recording software out there. Mine is connected to a Micomsoft XRGB-3 linedoubler over VGA.
I really love the portable gamer 2. It's been a great quality of life capture card for me. Gets me out of the office cave and I don't have to worry about losing a chance to capture footage.
Early 2011? Well, congratulations on 10 years of great videos! Time flies :-)
And that skit brought back many memories...love the Sega CD.
I use the Atomos Ninja V for recording gameplay and I've been extremely pleased with the results.
Loved that Gradius ReBirth music at 13:23!
I remember buying a hauge pauge back in 2016 , haven't really done anything with it since that time.
I don´t know sh*t about upscalers, resolutions or any technical mumbo jumbo. I just play the games. But I appreciate the quality videos Joe puts together.
Have a Like good man.
Dammit, and I was just about to go to sleep.
I am learning so much from this video...not to say I haven't learned form your channel already but I stream multiple consoles and I just want clean video and I'm getting there. Game Sack FTW!!
That was a great video. 👍
While I have no need to get any of these devices just yet, it is great to be all technical and get an insight into how you manage to capture your game footage.
My youngest son is very keen to start a channel here on TH-cam, so I may need to invest in one or two in the future. Happily, the amount of technical knowledge and equipment needed hasn't put the boy off at all, and I put that down to the way you and the MLIG fellas talk about these things. A complicated subject, but never made over complicated at all. Great stuff and thanks for the insight. 👍
... Still giggling at the ending skit too. I'm a fan of your humour too. 😂
As an owner of the original PEXHDCAP, do NOT upgrade past driver 140, since it does not support analog RGB input. Which is sad.
That sketch was awesome haha
the end credit of sega cd ad was perfect. i used a avermedia 4k live gamer capture card and i love it. only down fall is the snes and genesis games do have some frame rate issue on certain games. but i love that capture card to death. it work really well with obs too. i did find a go around on the snes/genesis frame rate issue but adding a m-classic adapter at the end of the hdmi and set it as retro mode which help it out alot to upscale abit and have it set for it 4:3 then it 16:9 screen setting. overall this card is great to used and good for a budget if your looking to stream.
I've been wanting to here from both of you what you used and your thoughts. Great video!
gamesack: *shows footage side by side*
me: uh... which one is supposed to be better?
That last skit was awesome 🤩.
Quite likely the best ending ever!
Love Startech gear. Good stuff for the price! Have had a bunch of issues with black magic gear despite the reputation and prevalence in the A/V industry.
The outro... Amazing!
I just wanna say that like most people I have been feeling really down lately , I guess with the current state of the world. Anyway I truly look forward to watching you every Sunday evening before I get prepared for the coming work week.
As I went to start this comment I also noticed that I had been unsubbed from you so lucky I was still getting your videos every week.
Thanks for the content. Keep up the good work.
Live the attention Ys VIII is getting here. Was amazed at that game.
32:05 was not expecting that that f bomb. But made me laugh
Great in-depth video on all things capture devices, thanks for making and sharing this and the end skit was great :)
i myself use two Cloner Alliance HDML cloner box evolve devices for my captures and livestreams. they will record to sd-card, usb-stick or usb harddisk as well as stream the capture info to pc (no mac drivers) via usb 3.0
as fas as inputs go, this device has two hdmi inputs, one composite input via jackplug and one hdmi output , a jackplug input for microphone and a headphone jackplug output.
you are already aware of the devices menusystem since you use another cloner alliance device.
only for non-composite signals (RF signals) i need an external device like a VCR to convert it to composite .
This video helped me so much. I know exactly what I need now. Thanks a lot you guys!
That ending 😂
My first capture device was my DVD Recorder, I would feed all my consoles through RCA splitters, record onto discs and copy the footage to my PC. The quality was what you expect from RCA, but it wasn't helped with issues with the PAL format on my Recorder making the picture all squished and such. I finally got an Avermedia LGP1 back a few years ago and it has served me well for years with that big blue button letting me go right to recording, the major gripe its 720p60 but only 1080p30 which was why I was looking at an LGP2 before you mentioned the issue with Davinci, I exclusively edit with that nowadays so I'd hate to have to Handbrake everything I capture
Coury at the end lol that was crazy
I was wondering, why is Coury still alive in the end skit when three years ago Joe knocked him out to get his Britney's Dance Beat in the previous Game Sack/MLiG skit? Anyway happy fourth of July though.
I loved the ExtremeCAP U3.
It’s time for a special guest appearance from Dave already, dammit! 😉
After all the work Joe has put into this show?
@@FloridaEbikes no, he doesn't need to. He left because he needed to.
@@kupokinzyt Joe’s awesome but we definitely miss Dave.
@@Utubesuxmycock So why watch a ‘trash’ show, dummy?
@@princegroove don't feed the troll
Yup, that's the thing about upscalers vs linedoublers. The Framemeister was a legit upscaling device while the OSSC was a linedoubler. Much simpler & cheaper to implement but does not always play nice with displays or capture devices. I wonder if the new RetroTINK 5X is faring better when it comes to capture devices as it is too a linedoubler.
With the Triple Buffer mode engaged, the Retrotink 5X plays nice with basically anything you throw at it. Frame Lock mode is about as tricky as the OSSC.
@@AceTrainerX3 A nice feature to have, but adds a frame or two of extra lag does it not? Still, I suppose it's a small price to pay for compatibility if needed. Bet plenty of ppl out there don't even realize that you should not have triple buffer turned on if your equipment works without it.
On a side note, one thing I'd really love to be added to the Tink 5x is a manual phase adjustment so it can be tweaked if the user so wishes, just like the OSSC can be.
I cannot afford upscalers and I have an old Elgato Game Capture HD that I bought refurbished years ago on the cheap. I'd probably use my Retro consoles more if upscaling wasn't such an unmitigated nightmare of input delay, hardware fuss, exorbatant price, and hardware availability.
I love my 3DO in a strange sort of way and I'd want to show my friends more of it, or capture my NES and SNES stuff (or my cousin's NES stuff. he has a copy of Panic Restaurant among his stuff!), but I don't have $300 to throw at a Retrotink 5x and however much more for a capture card that can capture at 1080 60FPS.
I suppose you can write these sorts of things off as business expenses on your taxes, but I'm just an enthusiast who primarily draws art for the internet.
I got the HD60 Pro and was not satisfied with my purchase. I watched so many reviews of the device over a few months and not one motioned the chroma sub sampling it does on both the preview and pass-through.
I see My Life in Gaming! I knew it gonna happen since the logo shown at the end in Super Mario 3D All Stars Review.
I'm gonna say what I said on Voultar's video. MLiG is guesting on, like, every youtube channel these days.
So I started on an old Happauge card that had RF input (WinTV HVR-1265), then I jumped to the Black Magic Shuttle but I found the limitations infuriating. Next was the AVerMedia C027 PCIe HD (got it for free, but it maxes out at 1080i30) and it did well but I finally settled on the AVerMedia LIve Gamer Portable C875 because You can use custom software to capture PS3 footage without having to play the HDMI splitter lottery. I knwo it is only 1080p30 but it suits my needs. I have a coulbe of those Camlink Knockoffs and they work fine too for needing something ultra portable, but for now I am going to stick with the C875.
Coury was awesome!
Believe it or not, i’m gonna use my Ewent Videograbber for analog capturing in the near future!
So many sound effects used for cables being plugged in.
theyre making it really old really fast 🤦♂️
So after looking at this and the scaler video it seems like the best bang for my buck setup would be to connect my systems to an retrotink 5x (RGB video if possible) and run that signal through a Magewell card.
Of course, until I have that money, I think I'll stick to capturing from a retron 5 with an HD PVR2
Hi Joe, I wonder if showing the retro gaming captures without any scanlines is a limitation of any video capture devices that you use or just your own choice. I would extend this question even to all your videos that I have watched. (Great job! like always) Thanks
13:45 I recently got it and installed it, I hope to know this well in dept :3
35:55
COURY.
THE STRONGEST MAN, IN THE WORLD!
Being a Linux user has its privileges, such as the constant sense of superiority and the feeling of being smug and condescending towards those trapped in the Win/Mac paradigm. However when it comes to video capture devices, there aren't a whole lot to choose from. My Avermedia DVD EZMaker USB Gold that I used to make plenty of 480 resolution S-video retro gaming videos back when I used to create such content no longer works. I'll need to do my homework before I can ever make such videos again.
I have a Pinnacle USB TV-Tuner with composite and audio jack which I got to record TV shows in the analog TV days.
Actually tried to play WiiSports with this thing once which also worked albeit latency was there.
From all devices something small USB based would suit my needs probably the best, so I can play Switch inside a window on my computer but that's no priority and thus I wouldn't spend over 100 bucks on it.
Never use USB if you can use PCIe.
@@unitedfools3493 Back when this device was on sale, PCIe wasn't even specified for consumer mainboards 👀
OMG the end skit!
best skit yet!
great info here
JOE!!!!!! Do you think you could modify all your retro consoles with sound chips and triggers to produce a “SQUELCH” noise when you insert a cable/accessory?………😝
I have no use for or interest in capture devices. Still gonna watch this though. Or else my every other Sunday wouldn't be complete.
The Division is always online because it's an online service game (duh). Are you not familiar with that genre Joe? Once they ironed out the kinks, it was pretty fun with friends.
There's a single player mode where you don't need to play with online players, but the game still needs to be online. Who wants that? Thanks for being condescending though.
Good to see MyLifeinF*cking with GameSack collab.
Welcome tuh earf!
How do i capture PS Vita games without pc?
10/10 outro 😆
Best skit in aaaaaaaages