Vanishing Point for PS1 (no relation to the movie), despite coming out a year after Gran Turismo 2, had horribly dated graphics and floaty controls at least as bad as Hooters: Road Trip. Not to mention the shallow game content. The only positive quality is the techno/trance soundtrack.
Wanna PLAY with POWER by playing THIS GAME on YOUR Genesis/Mega Drive POWERBASE CONVERTER? you're s*** outta luck, only the MASTER SYSTEM can HANDLE THIS EXPERIENCE!
@@osurpless There was _F-15 Strike Eagle II_ on the X68000, but no F-16 game. Even with the low-res polygons, it looks better than this dot frame mess on the SMS.
“I wonder when Uncle Gael will bring the pigment. Colored like the Dark Soul of Man...” The Painter Girl - Dark Souls III Maybe it’s just me, but seeing Derek called an uncle only works in a honorific type way like the above example.
"The Japanese version of Doom runs better" - I think this came from someone who was playing the PAL version which I can only imagine is naturally worse than NTSC versions.
Funny story... When I was roughly 8 - 10 one of my brother's "friends" pretended to lose one of his master system games when they stayed the night and then stole our copy of F-16 Fighter as compensation.
Interesting story with how the 3DO version came about. The developer who created it, Rebecca Heineman, shares the story of its nightmare development on her channel. Very crazy story!
IIRC the guy running the company that hired Rebecca to do the port had no idea how game development actually worked and thought adding stuff like new weapons and enemies was as simple as dragging-and-dropping. He DID however know music, and that's why the soundtrack is so awesome and the only redeeming factor of the port. Doom on the 3DO is bad, but it's a miracle that it even came out at all. Much like Doom on the SNES or Street Fighter Alpha 2 on the... SNES. Weird how the majority of people only use the "yeah it sucks but it's impressive" card when it's a Nintendo game, huh.
SNK NEO GEO tech explainer coming (with regard to RIDING HERO): For all the excellent stuff the machine can do it has a big flaw when compared to every single console from the NES and Master System up to the Saturn and almost every arcade of that period: The NEO GEO has ONLY sprites to draw the screen. A LOT of HUGE sprites. This would not be a problem in most cases as instead of background tiles you just move sprites. However you cannot really do RASTER effects with sprites. The classic 8 bit and 16 bit ROAD effect (Out run, hang on, or even the floor in Street Fighter 2) is done by moving the background at a different pace for every scanline. However this appears to be something very tricky to achieve with sprites (the ones in the NEO GEO are thin and tall, as tall as the whole screen height). Riding Hero and that nice Golf game are the only NG games even attempting this and it is obvious that the approach is different.
@Karl Burnett That was always a nice touch in Super Monaco. I loved injuring a player and getting the ambulance on the field in Madden, it would just barrel onto the field and run over any players in its way.
Please keep making GameSack. I have been watching you since I was a teenager, I'm a full adult now. I know it's been thru some ups and downs, but this is my favorite channel on youtube :)
I don't recall GameSack ever being down. Yeah, Dave left but that wasn't necessarily a setback. He's missed but Joe has been able to keep this channel going as strong as ever.
The Hooters game handles like that because before the race you drank like 3 pitchers of beer and ate about 10 pounds of hot chicken wings. So you're constantly shitting yourself while drunk driving.
I don't know who you are, Riggs, and I haven't seen any of your videos, but I just subscribed to your channel because that guy told me to. It better be good! Lol
@15:35 - That's not a collision detection issue. In that situation the rules of baseball require the runner to be tagged with the glove/ball...tagging the base isn't sufficient. Why? If the previous base is unoccupied the runner has the option to return to the other base. If the previous base is occupied the runner has no where else to go so the base can be tagged.
I like how the guy in the truck @ 30:47 just sits in there and doesn't even move while you thrash his vehicle to the point of it looking like he got into a bad accident :D
I do hope one day that someone will release an optimised Doom port for the Sega Saturn so we can see for real what the Saturn was capable of with Doom. Shame in hindsight Lobotomy Software didn't handle the conversion and id Software wasn't told to reverse course on their decision to not use a custom engine. While Doom was a slideshow, Lobotomy managed to port Quake, a game that was considered impossible for the Saturn to handle, to the console.
Joe, I know you've said that so and so went to the school of voice acting from Game Sack but I will say, the mega power voice makes me want to hear you commentate a wrestlemania
Whenever I switch over to "TATE MODE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" in a game I always hear Joe's mega power voice announcing the change.
The real kicker: another game based on Ashita no Joe appeared on the Super Famicom a few years later. It played much better AND followed the manga's storyline more closely by comparison to the Neo-Geo game. No wonder SNK held off releasing it to the West.
Actually A LOT of games make the Saturn seem underpowered because most devs didn't know how to program for it's second processor and hence couldn't even achieve transparency effects...check out the Saturn port of Symphony of the Night for example.
15:39, he was safe, there was no force play at 3rd and the 3rd baseman clear tagged him late. You dont get an out for stepping on a base on a non-force play.
Digital Foundry did a segment on DOOM Saturn for it's DFRetro Doom segment. Saturn Doom runs from about 11-23 FPS. They ran the Japanese and NTSC version through a framemeister and there was no discernable difference between the versions.
@@jbfarley Only time a foot on the base results in an out is if theres a Force Out at the base, which there wasn't in this case. You have to actually tag the runner with the ball if theres no Force Out situation
Man I love this channel! I have been watching for years and never has the content dipped in quality once. From one avid hardcore collector to another, thank you Joe for keeping this channel alive. Worst looking games in no particular order. I stopped at 12 but could have gone on for weeks... 1. Wipeout- Saturn 2. Rastan 2- Genesis 3. Desert Strike- Snes 4. Double Dragon- 7800 5. Trevor McFur- Jaguar 6. Golden Axe 3- Mega Drive 7. Total Carnage- 32X 8. Deadly Towers- Nes 9. Moto Roader- TG-16 10. Street Fighter- TG-16 CD ROM 11. Dirty Pair- Famicom 12. Alf- Master System
Zoomed in graphics in the Neo Geo didn't pixelate because the console actually zoomed out graphics. The real size was the biggest, the normal size was a scaled down version
9:28 my cousin and I used to pretend the 2nd controller was a vitally important part of the game where I'd yell "countermeasures!" And he'd press the button
It would be nice if someone would actually release a disc image of that mythical Doom port for the Saturn. Actually, that might be a good episode idea, unreleased games we'd like to see someday.
The runner was safe. It wasn't a force-out. By the time the 3rd baseman's tag animation started, the runner was already on the bag. Great video as always though.
Oh joe you like the doom 3do music , but you wouldn’t mind it on the Saturn. There is an image out there that somebody redbook audio patched the 3do music into the Saturn version lol
I was laughing so hard I couldn't even breathe during the whole F-16 Fighting Falcon segment. It reminded me so much of the classic Power Thirst bit. Dunno if that's what you were channeling, but you absolutely knocked it out of the park with that whole section. Bravo!
I remember NFL Quarterback club for the N64, that game actually made use of the expansion pack. Which helped make the helmets look very shiny and the extra memory helped the player models.
Watch Pandemonium's interview with the developer of VR Racing, in his review. It's no wonder why they're all so bad. Sega of Japan intentionally sabotaged 3rd parties.
@@kekeke8988 Yeah, it was Sega of Japan who panicked and forced the early release of the US Saturn. And honestly, 95% of the games that stayed in Japan would not have sold well in North America anyway, and certainly wouldn't have saved the Saturn.
Every single episode he makes is a total masterpiece. Always entertaining, so much effort and love clearly goes into these. Always be sure and watch after the credits people! Thank you for sharing your talents and efforts with us.
Wasn´t that second "hooter chick" the one on the "Playboy mansion reality show"??., does anybody still remembers that Hugh Hefner reality show where he had 3 girls that were his girlfriends or something?., man even 2000´s stuff are too old for this age
The world NEEDS more Hooters licensed games! "Hooters Conflicts" an 1 on 1 fighting game? YAEH!! "Hooters Tactics" a complex strategy game with exciting scenarios and interesting units? TAKE MY MONEY!! "World of Hooters" a vast MMO in the Hootersverse? WHERE I DO SIGN FOR SUBSCRIPTION!?
You should check out the TH-cam Chanel of Rebecca Heineman who handled the 3DO port of Doom. She has a very indepth video about the nightmareish development of that port.
Have a suggestion for a future episode, how about bad games that have really good soundtracks. Thinking about how games from Ocean Software often have better music than the game itself, thought it would be a good topic for you to talk about.
You mean Quake that practically had to be completely redesigned to work on Saturn hardware, unlike Doom that was trying to be something of a port.....Not everything is "executive meddling" no matter how much some people love to fart that out about every game...Sometimes games are just designed or ported badly
@@lutherheggs451 I know they used the Powerslave engine for the Saturn Quake and that it didn’t run the Quake engine. I humbly opine that's not relevant. The point is that a much more serviceable version of Doom, regardless of what engine it used, could have been made but in a rare moment of shortsightedness, John Carmack blocked it. Not a knock on him, he is a far smarter man than I will ever be. Sometimes people just don't make the best decisions.
@0:58 fully 100% of the blame for the saturn port of doom being bad lies with carmack. he dictated the rendering had to be entirely software as he didn't like the warping from the hardware's affine texture mapping. they did as good a job as carmack would allow them. 15 fps is a pretty good effort for being done entirely in cpu. carmack's ego ruined this port.
You were spot on until you got to the "as carmack would allow them" part. The issue was time. When he told them no way, they had to scrap their codebase and shove something out the door in a short timeframe. This was accomplished in part by using code from... wherever they could pull it. The 32X version was rushed, the Saturn's final released version was SUPER rushed and sloppy. If they had fully utilized the twin SH2's and carefully optimized the most demanding parts of the renderer with inline assembly, they could have done a hell of a lot better... even without taxing the VDPs. The Quake port on the other hand was pretty decent. I think other efforts are better (including recent homebrew like Z-Treme engine demos), but still for the time it was pretty good.
@@AlexvrbX So much misinformation in your response. The Saturn version was NOT rushed. Not only that, it did use BOTH SH2s. Here's it is direct from the developer., Jim Bagley, who has responded multiple times on this topic on forums, websites, magazines, even here on youtube. "When I started the project, I had to do a demo for id Software to approve. I started by extracting all the levels and audio and textures from the WAD files and made my own Saturn version of this, then got an early version of the renderer working using the 3D hardware. This got sent off and a couple days later I got a call from John Carmack, who stipulated that under no circumstances could I use the 3D hardware to draw the screen. I had to use the processor like the PC. Thankfully I enjoy challenges, so it turned out to be a really enjoyable project, using both SH2s to render the display like the PC did it, using the 68000 to orchestrate them both. However, it kneecapped the game and the speed-framerate suffered greatly."
@@TMS5100 @ms3bani Well then he did a questionable job because even the rushed 32X version is better overall. If nothing else the 32X port is playable despite the lower clocked SH2's and slower RAM. The Saturn version is unplayable. I've tried it on real hardware, it's awful. He could have literally just used the shoddy 32X codebase and bumped the resolution slightly and it would have been better. I was under the impression he was strapped for time... knowing that he worked on this for any great length of time and let it get released like that? Oof. Also, I never meant to imply he wasn't USING both SH2's. I meant to imply he wasn't getting the most out of them. Runs worse than a 386 DX 40 I played it on at one point. Also, REGARDLESS of what Carmack said, he should have been using the VDPs to at least handle the backgrounds and sprites, to take some of the load off the SH2's.
@@AlexvrbX no he didn't do a questionable job. go back and actually LOOK at the goddamned ports for fuck's sake. the 32x version is a heavily cropped and low res pixelated shitstorm. the saturn version is full screen and the renderer is about double the resolution of the 32x. yes the saturn version is choppy, but it's also rendering ~3x more pixels. if he cropped it and lowered the resolution to the 32x it would be running FASTER than the 32x, but it would still look like an unbelivably pixelated mess like the 32x.
What games do you feel make a console or platform look significantly weaker than it really is?
The PS1 version of Shadow Man comes to mind with this question
Bill Laimbeer’s combat basquetball on snes, what
an awful game
Probably any black box nes game, except gum shoe
Beyblade for the PS1
Vanishing Point for PS1 (no relation to the movie), despite coming out a year after Gran Turismo 2, had horribly dated graphics and floaty controls at least as bad as Hooters: Road Trip. Not to mention the shallow game content. The only positive quality is the techno/trance soundtrack.
11:27 “welcome to georgia” but her shirt says “phoenix, az” lol
No one ever claimed that them Georgia Hooters girls were all that bright.
I salute your dedication to details, while I was … distracted.
Lol sir I would have never even noticed that. At least her accent, if incredibly overdone, is accurate. Though no one says "howdy."
that lady dated Hugh Hefner
@@12ealDealOfficial Plenty of people say howdy.
Thumbs up for that F-16 skit alone. Move over Rex Vyper! 😂🍻
I think I want to buy it now, sounds bad ass!!
Rex Viper Rex.. Still the best in the game.. Even though this one isn't bad at all..
Edited: Yeah we got trucks - Rex Viper Rex
Wanna PLAY with POWER by playing THIS GAME on YOUR Genesis/Mega Drive POWERBASE CONVERTER? you're s*** outta luck, only the MASTER SYSTEM can HANDLE THIS EXPERIENCE!
The best part about F-16 Fighting Falcon is that it's SO powerful, not even the SEGA Genesis Power Base Converter has enough power to play it!
I wonder if the Cockpit on the Sharp X68000 had a similarly lesser known handicap...
@@osurpless There was _F-15 Strike Eagle II_ on the X68000, but no F-16 game. Even with the low-res polygons, it looks better than this dot frame mess on the SMS.
Extreme!?!
Extreme!!!
I have been trying to get hold of the people that made hooters road trip for ages but nobody wants to talk about it... No idea why
Bc they were too drunk when they made it and noone remembers now
11:26 - That's Holly Madison from The Girls Next Door. Maybe she remembers something about it...?
maybe the game was made by accident
probably in jail
Fancy seeing you here!!!
The knockoff brand names in Mike Piazza's Strike Zone were hilarious. AT-AT and Office Deorts
Console ports of Doom? At this rate, you're going to summon Uncle Derek.
“I wonder when Uncle Gael will bring the pigment. Colored like the Dark Soul of Man...” The Painter Girl - Dark Souls III
Maybe it’s just me, but seeing Derek called an uncle only works in a honorific type way like the above example.
They say you can only summon him by making a pentagram with Doom ports.
"The Japanese version of Doom runs better" - I think this came from someone who was playing the PAL version which I can only imagine is naturally worse than NTSC versions.
I died when the announcer saying "Woah! Hardcore!" sounded exactly the same as when Joe said it.
The Sega Saturn port of Doom really is a tragedy. I hope that the old prototype resurfaces anytime in the near future.
Funny story... When I was roughly 8 - 10 one of my brother's "friends" pretended to lose one of his master system games when they stayed the night and then stole our copy of F-16 Fighter as compensation.
You know, I've been happily watching Game Sack for years, but finally just subscribed thanks to Joe yelling over F16 Fighting Falcon.
14:10 "picture yourself actually liking baseball" lmao that's pretty tough.
How did the game get past Nintendo seal of excellent quality????
Honestly I don’t have that much creativity
Interesting story with how the 3DO version came about. The developer who created it, Rebecca Heineman, shares the story of its nightmare development on her channel. Very crazy story!
100% a story worth hearing, it's utterly batshit. she kicks ass
Link to her channel?
As bad as the 3DO port is, it's actually a miracle that it was as good as it was
@@avalond1193 Links tend to get comments auto-blocked. Search YT for channel Rebecca Heineman, then search that channel for Doom 3DO
IIRC the guy running the company that hired Rebecca to do the port had no idea how game development actually worked and thought adding stuff like new weapons and enemies was as simple as dragging-and-dropping. He DID however know music, and that's why the soundtrack is so awesome and the only redeeming factor of the port. Doom on the 3DO is bad, but it's a miracle that it even came out at all. Much like Doom on the SNES or Street Fighter Alpha 2 on the... SNES. Weird how the majority of people only use the "yeah it sucks but it's impressive" card when it's a Nintendo game, huh.
You. Those two controllers. That skit. My week has been made. Thank you.
One thing's for sure, I can never get enough of Joe's loud voice whenever he advertises bad games that makes them worth playing! XD
SNK NEO GEO tech explainer coming (with regard to RIDING HERO): For all the excellent stuff the machine can do it has a big flaw when compared to every single console from the NES and Master System up to the Saturn and almost every arcade of that period: The NEO GEO has ONLY sprites to draw the screen. A LOT of HUGE sprites. This would not be a problem in most cases as instead of background tiles you just move sprites. However you cannot really do RASTER effects with sprites. The classic 8 bit and 16 bit ROAD effect (Out run, hang on, or even the floor in Street Fighter 2) is done by moving the background at a different pace for every scanline. However this appears to be something very tricky to achieve with sprites (the ones in the NEO GEO are thin and tall, as tall as the whole screen height). Riding Hero and that nice Golf game are the only NG games even attempting this and it is obvious that the approach is different.
Thanks for that!
Best way of starting the day....new Sack.
It's 11pm where I live...
Bout to fall asleep
9am cest
Ugh it’s 330 am. I wanna go to sleep. I’ll put Joe on the tv
Best way to pass out. Sunday night...
I love having a new sack every week
that F-16 Fighting Falcon ad was so hardcore it melted my face off.
I quit my job, left my wife and joined the air force after seeing it. America!
Wait till you see the Cockpit from the Sharp X68000 episode!
Don’t expect to have a working skeleton afterwards...
Woah… hardcore!
@16:18 OMG the guy knocking himself out when he hits the wall was hilarious.
As someone who has played this game it truly is the best part. I spent maybe 50% of my play time just doing that.
@Karl Burnett That was always a nice touch in Super Monaco. I loved injuring a player and getting the ambulance on the field in Madden, it would just barrel onto the field and run over any players in its way.
I hope John Carmacks tombstone reads "The guy responsible for the Saturn version of Doom"
no worries, he is working for facebook! (if it's not a punishment I do not know what is... working for the evil, as a kind of genius)
John Carmacks punishment, is now him working for Facebook.
How dare he tarnish the SEGA Saturn!
@@stabinghobo57 I thought he worked for Oculus.
@@gozinta82 Facebook owns Oculus.
Please keep making GameSack. I have been watching you since I was a teenager, I'm a full adult now. I know it's been thru some ups and downs, but this is my favorite channel on youtube :)
You might have aged past your teen years, but you are not an adult if this is how you spend your time.
@@Iliek yeah real adults spend their time drinking tea and reading newspapers
@@Iliek What else am I supposed to do? Your wife doesn't last as long as she used too.
@@kupokinzyt where'd you get that insult, Usenet?
I don't recall GameSack ever being down. Yeah, Dave left but that wasn't necessarily a setback. He's missed but Joe has been able to keep this channel going as strong as ever.
That F-16 voice over had me LMFAO!!!! One of the funniest things I've seen in a long time. 😂😄😜😅😆
Powerslave on the Saturn 🪐 is a perfect example on how it can run a DOOM Clone at high a frame rate.
Duke Nukem too. Not to mention the Doom 32X Resurrection mod proving once and for all that even the 32X can run the game great.
The Hooters game handles like that because before the race you drank like 3 pitchers of beer and ate about 10 pounds of hot chicken wings. So you're constantly shitting yourself while drunk driving.
Anything that kicks off with music from Quartet rules in my book.
Riggs!!!I'm a subscriber!!!love ur videos,ppl get riggs to one million!!
RIGGS!
I don't know who you are, Riggs, and I haven't seen any of your videos, but I just subscribed to your channel because that guy told me to. It better be good! Lol
Btw gotta love that cameo that you made on Shadow Succession of War, didn't know that was your first video game appearance. 😂
I love Quartet
“Picture yourself loving baseball.”
Hold on. I have a good imagination but not THAT good
Jaguar Doom is one of the best and programmed by the mighty Carmack himself. It really puts the Saturn and 3DO versions to shame.
@15:35 - That's not a collision detection issue. In that situation the rules of baseball require the runner to be tagged with the glove/ball...tagging the base isn't sufficient. Why? If the previous base is unoccupied the runner has the option to return to the other base. If the previous base is occupied the runner has no where else to go so the base can be tagged.
... Welcome to Georgia, wearing Phoenix shirt, double eye wink.... q u a l i t y
I like how the guy in the truck @ 30:47 just sits in there and doesn't even move while you thrash his vehicle to the point of it looking like he got into a bad accident :D
Seeing an SMS cover grid supersized and in a Neo-Geo case made me laugh more than it should have.
I do hope one day that someone will release an optimised Doom port for the Sega Saturn so we can see for real what the Saturn was capable of with Doom. Shame in hindsight Lobotomy Software didn't handle the conversion and id Software wasn't told to reverse course on their decision to not use a custom engine. While Doom was a slideshow, Lobotomy managed to port Quake, a game that was considered impossible for the Saturn to handle, to the console.
Joe, I know you've said that so and so went to the school of voice acting from Game Sack but I will say, the mega power voice makes me want to hear you commentate a wrestlemania
Whenever I switch over to "TATE MODE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" in a game I always hear Joe's mega power voice announcing the change.
16:12 I wasn't expecting the bounce against the wall! Thank you for including that 😂
Man, Ashita no Joe is one of the best manga ever. That game hurts my soul.
The real kicker: another game based on Ashita no Joe appeared on the Super Famicom
a few years later. It played much better AND followed the manga's storyline more closely
by comparison to the Neo-Geo game.
No wonder SNK held off releasing it to the West.
Game Sack somehow captures my nostalgia better than any other retro channel for me (Sega Lord X as well). Joe is just a nice honest host.
Agreed.
I love Sega lord X channel but yes I think game sack is a lot better
I like Sega Lord X but it feels like he recycles the same games over and over again.
@@besotoxicomusic there are only so many Sega games.... Maybe he will become PC Engine Lord X
@@SlippyMcDervish yes there are so many sega games. I wish he covered more of them.
12:18 Joe turns into Mike Stoklasa from RedLetterMedia... 😂
Is Plinkett replacing Dave?
@@trailersic Ohmygaaaaawwd
I always got a RedLetterMedia vibe from Game Sack, especially when Dave was on. That bit was hilarious.
Actually A LOT of games make the Saturn seem underpowered because most devs didn't know how to program for it's second processor and hence couldn't even achieve transparency effects...check out the Saturn port of Symphony of the Night for example.
Eurgh... Yeah, even the transition rooms needed to be loaded, despite its existence to help offset the time
needed for different areas to be loaded.
So glad to hear that VIRTUAL HYDLIDE voice again!
15:39, he was safe, there was no force play at 3rd and the 3rd baseman clear tagged him late. You dont get an out for stepping on a base on a non-force play.
You really do have a great voice for 80’s toy commercials
That F-16 game segment cracked me up so much 🤣🤣🤣 Hope Joe didn’t destroy his throat while recording 😅
Later on he says his voice hurts.
F-16 Fighting Falcon is so powerful that not even the Genesis/Mega Drive Power Base converter can handle its raw power!
All hail the unsupported mighty SG1000 graphics modes!
Digital Foundry did a segment on DOOM Saturn for it's DFRetro Doom segment. Saturn Doom runs from about 11-23 FPS. They ran the Japanese and NTSC version through a framemeister and there was no discernable difference between the versions.
Yeah I dunno who thought there was a difference. Probably just some guy who happened to import it and wanted to justify the purchase.
@@GameSack Pretty much.
Today is a sad day, the creator of your favourite game of all times “greendog” just died :(
Who is that creator?
RIP
F
For context, producer Michael Latham passed away April 10th, 2021.
Only got into Game Sack recently, so I'm not sure what the joke with Greendog is.
11:27 that complete failure to wink never fails to slay me
I only watched about 40% of this video as F16 FIGHTING FALCON melted my eyeballs.
Love the show, and I'm glad it's still going. Much respect for the consistency and years of entertainment!
I can only watch maybe 5 minutes of this episodes of GameSack at one time because of how grating the graphics and sound of these games are.
Been binging on all your videos past and present while I play breath of the wild. Keep it up, Joe! 👍🏻
That wall collision sound at 16:20 is the best!!!
Runner touched the base before your third baseman bent down to tag him. SAFE!
This 👆🏼
If you have the ball, with your foot on the base, and the runner touches it, they're out. Tagging is not needed
@@jbfarley Only time a foot on the base results in an out is if theres a Force Out at the base, which there wasn't in this case. You have to actually tag the runner with the ball if theres no Force Out situation
The players in mike piazza's first strike zone walk like they're all pinching a loaf lolz!
Games that make the console look weak: pretty much every Unity Indie game that looks terrible while still managing to have frame drops
You know a game that makes the Master System look weak? The Cyber Shinobi. That one is absolute choppy _ARSE._
True story: the actual F-16 is controlled using two Sega Master System controllers.
Man I love this channel! I have been watching for years and never has the content dipped in quality once. From one avid hardcore collector to another, thank you Joe for keeping this channel alive.
Worst looking games in no particular order. I stopped at 12 but could have gone on for weeks...
1. Wipeout- Saturn
2. Rastan 2- Genesis
3. Desert Strike- Snes
4. Double Dragon- 7800
5. Trevor McFur- Jaguar
6. Golden Axe 3- Mega Drive
7. Total Carnage- 32X
8. Deadly Towers- Nes
9. Moto Roader- TG-16
10. Street Fighter- TG-16 CD ROM
11. Dirty Pair- Famicom
12. Alf- Master System
3:12 Lmao. Carmack is a Greendog fan
Zoomed in graphics in the Neo Geo didn't pixelate because the console actually zoomed out graphics. The real size was the biggest, the normal size was a scaled down version
Exactly. I don't think the Neo Geo can even natively upscale. I could be wrong though.
9:28 my cousin and I used to pretend the 2nd controller was a vitally important part of the game where I'd yell "countermeasures!" And he'd press the button
It's 1235 and I'm still taking screen shots to send to my cousin
Check out those production values at 11:26. Hooters Girl welcomes you to Georgia but is wearing a shirt from Hooters in Phoenix, Arizona.
If only SNK had pulled a HOOTERS on the Neo Geo CD loading screen... Hey, a man can dream, can't he?
U r the best gaming retro channel man... Never stop
Shadow: War of Succession also tells you to finish your opponent if you win, but they didn't include any finishing moves.
3DO Doom was only done by one person, all because the owner od the studio that published that port outright lied about the game being in production.
It would be nice if someone would actually release a disc image of that mythical Doom port for the Saturn.
Actually, that might be a good episode idea, unreleased games we'd like to see someday.
The runner was safe. It wasn't a force-out. By the time the 3rd baseman's tag animation started, the runner was already on the bag. Great video as always though.
Agreed. Runner was definitely safe.
His foot was on the base as he caught the ball.
@@GameSack That doesn't matter. In that situation, he had to tag the runner not just have his foot on the base.
@@GameSack Dave would agree with me...
If you have the ball, with your foot on the base, and the runner touches it, they're out. Tagging is not needed, from what I reca
Damn, Joe went hard on that F-16 Fighting Falcon game lol
The fart sounds really kicked it up a notch
29:24 I laughed hard at him stuck behind the truck and then the AI just passes right through it like it's nothing.
I just woke up and now having breakfast. Great video to wake up to new Sack
Oh joe you like the doom 3do music , but you wouldn’t mind it on the Saturn. There is an image out there that somebody redbook audio patched the 3do music into the Saturn version lol
Now I know what why my toaster was talking smack to the 3DO and Saturn this morning.
I was laughing so hard I couldn't even breathe during the whole F-16 Fighting Falcon segment. It reminded me so much of the classic Power Thirst bit. Dunno if that's what you were channeling, but you absolutely knocked it out of the park with that whole section. Bravo!
I think you're a legend of success, Joe.
I feel like F-16 Fighting Falcon is the victim of an over-ambitious developer working on an underpowered console.
5:52 - This band is at the wrong gig.
Yes another Game Sack, favourite gaming vids on TH-cam.
The world needs broken pixels back, I could only imagine what sean baby would say now lol.
I remember NFL Quarterback club for the N64, that game actually made use of the expansion pack. Which helped make the helmets look very shiny and the extra memory helped the player models.
Honestly a lot of the Saturn’s library can go here, it’s kinda unfortunate
Watch Pandemonium's interview with the developer of VR Racing, in his review.
It's no wonder why they're all so bad. Sega of Japan intentionally sabotaged 3rd parties.
@@juststatedtheobvious9633 Sega of Japan was just too busy screwing over it's US wing, and in turn itself
Sega screwed itself. It’s kind of remarkable with all of the blunders they are still around today
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How so? Whose stupid idea was it to release the Saturn early or not to release 95% of the games in the US or to cancel the system early?
@@kekeke8988 Yeah, it was Sega of Japan who panicked and forced the early release of the US Saturn. And honestly, 95% of the games that stayed in Japan would not have sold well in North America anyway, and certainly wouldn't have saved the Saturn.
Learned to love this channel for its auditory meditative trudge thru games.
Awesome finds and enjoyed it
i'm watching game sack for about 5 years and now i strongly starting to suspect that Joe enjoys plays video games...
Interesting theory
In russia, Game Sack plays you!
@@Godsgood111 in game sack you play russia
Every single episode he makes is a total masterpiece. Always entertaining, so much effort and love clearly goes into these. Always be sure and watch after the credits people! Thank you for sharing your talents and efforts with us.
Wasn´t that second "hooter chick" the one on the "Playboy mansion reality show"??., does anybody still remembers that Hugh Hefner reality show where he had 3 girls that were his girlfriends or something?., man even 2000´s stuff are too old for this age
Holly Madison is her name
The world NEEDS more Hooters licensed games!
"Hooters Conflicts" an 1 on 1 fighting game? YAEH!!
"Hooters Tactics" a complex strategy game with exciting scenarios and interesting units? TAKE MY MONEY!!
"World of Hooters" a vast MMO in the Hootersverse? WHERE I DO SIGN FOR SUBSCRIPTION!?
You should check out the TH-cam Chanel of Rebecca Heineman who handled the 3DO port of Doom. She has a very indepth video about the nightmareish development of that port.
Agreed. For those interested, her channel is under the name Rebecca Heineman and do a search there for Doom 3DO. It was uploaded in July 2015.
F-16 Fighting Falcon was programmed in the SMS' legacy mode... aka SG-1000 mode.
28:37 when you bring your date into the bedroom for the first time
Love love love the quartet music remix at the start of the vid
Have a suggestion for a future episode, how about bad games that have really good soundtracks. Thinking about how games from Ocean Software often have better music than the game itself, thought it would be a good topic for you to talk about.
Bomberman Hero on n64 comes to mind. Average game, top tier soundtrack!
The fact that Quake ran much better on the Saturn really puts into perspective how badly executive meddling kneecapped its Doom port.
You mean Quake that practically had to be completely redesigned to work on Saturn hardware, unlike Doom that was trying to be something of a port.....Not everything is "executive meddling" no matter how much some people love to fart that out about every game...Sometimes games are just designed or ported badly
@@lutherheggs451 I know they used the Powerslave engine for the Saturn Quake and that it didn’t run the Quake engine. I humbly opine that's not relevant. The point is that a much more serviceable version of Doom, regardless of what engine it used, could have been made but in a rare moment of shortsightedness, John Carmack blocked it. Not a knock on him, he is a far smarter man than I will ever be. Sometimes people just don't make the best decisions.
Hooters girl: Hi! Welcome to Georgia!
Shitty southern accent while wearing an Airizona shirt. 🙄
F16 fighting falcon is so powerful it turns you into Alex Jones!
am i crazy or is the lighting really nice in this episode?
That's the true power of the mighty Neo Geo
8 MEGA POWER
My friend's dad actually made a dual-controller holder out of wood for F-16 FIGHTING FALCON. It worked surprisingly well.
Bubsy bubsy bubsy busy bobcaaaaaaaaaaaat... 3D
What's funny is you're right in that ironic F-16 Fighting Falcon segment. The audio WILL light your ears on fire.
Man I really want to play F-16 on the master system now! YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!! >
@0:58 fully 100% of the blame for the saturn port of doom being bad lies with carmack. he dictated the rendering had to be entirely software as he didn't like the warping from the hardware's affine texture mapping. they did as good a job as carmack would allow them. 15 fps is a pretty good effort for being done entirely in cpu. carmack's ego ruined this port.
You were spot on until you got to the "as carmack would allow them" part. The issue was time. When he told them no way, they had to scrap their codebase and shove something out the door in a short timeframe. This was accomplished in part by using code from... wherever they could pull it. The 32X version was rushed, the Saturn's final released version was SUPER rushed and sloppy. If they had fully utilized the twin SH2's and carefully optimized the most demanding parts of the renderer with inline assembly, they could have done a hell of a lot better... even without taxing the VDPs.
The Quake port on the other hand was pretty decent. I think other efforts are better (including recent homebrew like Z-Treme engine demos), but still for the time it was pretty good.
@@AlexvrbX So much misinformation in your response. The Saturn version was NOT rushed. Not only that, it did use BOTH SH2s. Here's it is direct from the developer., Jim Bagley, who has responded multiple times on this topic on forums, websites, magazines, even here on youtube.
"When I started the project, I had to do a demo for id Software to approve. I started by extracting all the levels and audio and textures from the WAD files and made my own Saturn version of this, then got an early version of the renderer working using the 3D hardware. This got sent off and a couple days later I got a call from John Carmack, who stipulated that under no circumstances could I use the 3D hardware to draw the screen. I had to use the processor like the PC. Thankfully I enjoy challenges, so it turned out to be a really enjoyable project, using both SH2s to render the display like the PC did it, using the 68000 to orchestrate them both.
However, it kneecapped the game and the speed-framerate suffered greatly."
@@TMS5100 @ms3bani Well then he did a questionable job because even the rushed 32X version is better overall. If nothing else the 32X port is playable despite the lower clocked SH2's and slower RAM. The Saturn version is unplayable. I've tried it on real hardware, it's awful. He could have literally just used the shoddy 32X codebase and bumped the resolution slightly and it would have been better. I was under the impression he was strapped for time... knowing that he worked on this for any great length of time and let it get released like that? Oof. Also, I never meant to imply he wasn't USING both SH2's. I meant to imply he wasn't getting the most out of them. Runs worse than a 386 DX 40 I played it on at one point.
Also, REGARDLESS of what Carmack said, he should have been using the VDPs to at least handle the backgrounds and sprites, to take some of the load off the SH2's.
@@AlexvrbX no he didn't do a questionable job. go back and actually LOOK at the goddamned ports for fuck's sake. the 32x version is a heavily cropped and low res pixelated shitstorm. the saturn version is full screen and the renderer is about double the resolution of the 32x. yes the saturn version is choppy, but it's also rendering ~3x more pixels. if he cropped it and lowered the resolution to the 32x it would be running FASTER than the 32x, but it would still look like an unbelivably pixelated mess like the 32x.