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From the very beginning of America's history, violence has informed the attitudes, opinions and tastes of its citizens, many of which value it above compassion. As such, much of the media they produce and consume is designed from the ground up to promote fear of the "other", and they express how force is the most expedient and effective method of achieving a positive outcome.
From America's news networks, to its multi-billion dollar grossing films, the idea of overcoming "evil" in the world has spread at a disturbing rate, all the while, these same media outlets admonish diplomacy, intimacy and love.
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What bugs me the most is how America is so desensitized to violence but is incredibly restrictive about sex and nudity.
exactly. they love war and people dying, and at the same time love their "christian values". it's sounds hypocritical to me, but i guess religion has never been a thing that brings peace to society.
Ain't that the truth!
It's their Puritan legacy
I always notice this the most when comparing age ratings between Germay where I live and the US. We're way more liberal when it comes to nudity and profanity but censor violence more strictly, this is especially noticeable in videogames where many publishers make special cut versions that conform with the standart permitted here. But at the same time movies that are rated R in the US because of sex and swearing get 16 and up or even 12 and up ratings here.
Watch guy get guts bashed in: Yes
Watch girl get guts bashed in: No 🥺
I haven't gotten very far in the video yet, so maybe you'll touch on this, but the opening minutes of this video reminded me of something that shakes me to my core. I'm American, born here and lived here all my life. The prevailing attitude in this country is that the United States are the good guys, and any enemies of the United States are the "bad guys." I went and saw the military propaganda film "Lone Survivor" in the theater. Not only did that movie suck ass (especially the cinematography, every shot was extreme closeup and it was impossible to breathe), but everyone stood up and clapped at the end, because America are the good guys, y'all.
I'm sorry, but the good guys do not send unmanned robots to rain fire and death from the sky upon civilians thousands of miles away. The good guys do not depose democratically elected government officials simply because said leaders are not friendly to the US government's economic interests. I feel like a goddamned alien in this country sometimes. People see the huge military budgets and the massive guns and aircraft carriers and cruise missiles that we build, and they say "Damn, that's awesome. We're so badass." I see those same things and think "Wow, this is a fucking dystopian nightmare."
I want my country to stop bombing civilians and meddling in foreign affairs. Or at the very least, I want us to be HONEST about what we're doing. I want the United States to stop pretending that we're the good guys, because we're not. The idea of "good guys" and "bad guys" is entirely fictitious. There are only humans. Every one of us is capable of great kindness, or terrible cruelty. Evil is a choice.
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And the normalization of the word villain for normal people is just insane to me
Not to mention how US military propaganda directly copies the visual language of violent movies/video games. I keep getting an ad with pictures of soldiers laid out like a game loading screen, captioned "choose your fighter!" Ugh.
Well said. I'm an American, too, and I hate how the only acceptable way to show our "patriotism" is by showing support for our military in meaningless ways. How about showing support for all of our fellow Americans by taking care of one another?
Reminds me of that "Are we the baddies?" bit by Mitchell and Webb.
"How do I explain this to my kids?!"
As a parent of two: I never planted the idea that giving or receiving love depends on gender, race or looks into my kids' heads, so neither of them had any trouble understanding the concept of same-sex couples. Kids aren't idiots, Maureen.
My daughter's kindergartener has a girlfriend. When she asked me about it, I just told her she likes women more than men. I don't see why this would require a more in-depth explanation.
Children, especially small children, don't really have a "common sense" and just kinda accept whatever their parents tell them.
@@pepi7404 Exactly. Adults project so much onto children. My son has a friend at school whose father transitioned from male to female this year. He asked me about it and it took me one whole sentence to explain that sometimes the bodies we're born with aren't the same sex as our minds. He had some follow-up questions like "how do you know if that's the case" but he didn't question the actual root of the discussion. Kids notice things and people that stand out but only make a problem of it if the adults in their life do it first.
Heh, I think it's more that they don't want to explain to their kids why their own parents are such massive assholes lol
@@juliabazanska These are far-leftist arguments coined by MSNPC to justify mutilating children. I don't buy this Transhumanist garbage for one damn second.
There's a reason homosexuality is demonized in many societies.
@@anayos6726 The fuck you on about mate.
It's a specific kind of violence, that is acceptable and applauded in American cinema. The kind that doesn't look real and doesn't involve blood and viscera (usually), where the "enemy" being killed is masculine, faceless/masked, and foreign/alien/robotic, and therefore lacking sympathetic qualities that would make audiences question the scale of the violence or its use as a frivolous spectacle there to serve the glory of the main heroes. It's not about glorifying one-on-one hand-to-hand combat the way martial arts films do. It's more about the glory of conquest, of destroying vast, faceless enemy armies.
"the glory of conquest" is such a good way to put it. That is absolutely the brand of violence that Americans love so much: clean, macho victories where the "good guys" dominate opponents that "deserve it." It's basically just might makes right where the violence is portrayed as both necessary and beautiful.
The Dark Knight movies: Ra's Al Ghul dies, because he's a cardboard cutout of generic supervillain. Bane dies, because he's physically a monster. Joker never gets killed, because he's got a relatable kind of rationale and a sort of righteous anger to him. He's one of us more than one of them.
Manifest destiny still lives on
@@billyj.causeyvideoguy7361 but he still had huge popular support, because the people love strongmen. Look at the society we actually live in., it bears out for us too unfortunately.
@@billyj.causeyvideoguy7361 fair enough, but there's still the reality of policy to deal with, and the US' crappy electoral system has us choosing between one or the other and their BS promises. You gotta have to either toss the coin or walk away entirely, and the second option ensures that you lose every time.
The use of David Bowie's "I'm Afraid of Americans" is amazing.
"will the circle be unbroken" in the background gives some chilling vibe to this video
@@Dennis94913 The BioShock version nontheless, creepy.
I almost left this exact comment. That song is a bop.
iconic song and very relevant
From the same album (I think...it’s been a long time) is the line “I don’t want knowledge. I want certainty!” Now that’s a deep reflection of half of our electorate if I’ve heard one.
As a Japanese, what always bugged me when I consume a American media was the fact that how much they love to justify violence. I mean, we love violence and gory depiction at some extent because I think it is part of our instinct as an animal, I get that. But showing violence because we love to see it and trying to justify and giving a seal of approval for solving conflict for violence is quite different in my view. There is a scene in "Seven Samurai" by Akira Kurosawa I still remember time to time. After a bloody conflicts with bandits, head of seven samurai who fought to protect a village said. "We did not win, they did" pointing at farmers in the village. It really hits me because I think what it trying to say is that those who resolve to violence may win a fight, but they cannot build a meaningful future. Those who can care, tend and love are the ones who can build something out of this violent and vicious world.
No other country loves freedom and liberty like America does. It's why half our citizens are armed to the teeth...
We also can openly hate our government, they can't do shit about it.
I think that the difference between being disgusted by war and being excited by violent movies is thanks to movie makers.
Real violence even on a screen, like in the news or something is hard to watch, movie violence is fun - the movie always sets up first that the guys definitely deserve it, they show the hero and his pain, but the villains die quickly and 'humanily', their faces are obscured, and if the hero picks one up to torture answers out of him, he spits in the hero's face, you never see a villain sincerely beg for his life, and piss himself - if you do, the hero spares him and the villain attacks him afterward, just so you know no injustice was done. Wounds and blood are stylized, you never see a half bitten off tongue hanging out of the baddies mouth, it's just blood drawing a line from the nose and mouth downwards etc.
And if a movie does break with these conventions, it does actually become difficult to watch - like real violence is.
Long story short, movie makers work very hard to make the violence look pleasing. Real violence doesn't look pleasing.
> you never see a villain sincerely beg for his life
Except in Transformers: Dark of the Moon, where Optimus Prime brutally executes his former mentor while he begs for his life (and he does this immediately after beheading Megatron, who was literally offering peace)
Yeah this is a really important point to make. Fiction is made to explore aspects of the human experience, and some of it is not something you would actually want to experience, but can do so safely from behind the veil of fiction.
I do think a lot of people should learn the difference between fiction and reality though...
yeah, but in that case we are dehumanized to them as cybertronians are more machine than man
we don’t see two individuals, we see two robo-guys
@@CollinBuckman i mean most people literally eat corpses of animals so I don't think they would relate to big robot guys that much 😂
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I know, I´m really late to this but that scene, to me, wasn´t supposed to feel good. Sure it´s played off as "Yay! The battle is over!" but that´s to be expected since... Hollywood doesn´t like a bad -ish ending but... (from a character standpoint)
Don´t forget that Sentinel was about to stab him (presumably to kill) AFTER already tearing off his arm.
I´m not condoning Optimus´ actions but there was an immense psychological strain on Optimus´ part, a moment of moral weakness if you will.
He was betrayed again and again, and he lost so many comrades by that point.
He was tired of all the bullshit that he´s been through, mainly because of the two he killed in this scene.
He also definitely could NOT trust Megatron at that point since ... ya know, Megatron stabbed him in the back throughout the series, repeatedly.
And it´s not even taken that lightly in his character development... he´s pretty broken after Dark of the Moon... I mean who wouldn´t be absolutely done after these events.
Also, yeah, robot gore doesn´t really count (I guess) and it´s honestly pretty hard to kill a big-ass transformer without it being "brutal" .... unlike a squishy fragile human.
(I´m sorry... I´m very passionate about these kinds of things so I hope, I don´t come off... annoying? I guess?)
As it turns out, there's far less distance between "good vs evil" and "us vs them."
Very poignant!
I always loved that Luke wins by throwing his weapon down and giving up on fighting. America is obsessed with violence. I remember when we invaded Iraq and they showed the bombardment on TV. And the reporter starts sycophantically crying about the beauty of American weapons. I was only around 11 and it really disturbed me.
I wouldn't say obsessed but there some people who beauty or pride in war, and I think those individuals are disturbed. When it came to aftermath of 9/11, it was fear that made some Americans warful.
@@nae7988 nah I'd say obsessed in some people's case. You should see the amount of teenage boys (and others but mainly guys) who straight up glorify war. The Vietnam War in particular is one they seem to adore for some reason. And I don't get it
It's not like they find the war interesting and like to learn about it. It's effects, the human side of it. No they just like the "hehe napalm, they're in the trees, ptsd" parts and it's so odd to watch
Wait what? No wonder that disturbed you, I'm disturbed just reading your comment. I can find many faults in the media of my country but at least this isn't one of them.
@Aspie-Anarchist First just want to thank you for using "sycophantically".
As I grew up in France, we were given a more critical point of view on this specific war, which is quite understandable considering how the country refused the US' call to enter it. The images were shown though, and they haunted me for a while. I think this taste for war and violence also exists here, but as a form of admiration for "heroes of the past". I don't see as much of a glorification of it though.
@Aspie-Anarchist Also In Episode 3, where Anakin executing a disarmed and helpless Count Dooku is used as a cue of soon to come decent into the Dark Side.
your commentary about marvel movies made me think how americans think a mcu movie is bad when it focuses on the characters and their mental struggles rather than the fights. iron man 3, tfatws and parts of wandavision come to mind immediately.
I remember when infinity war came out people were complaining that the "snap / dusting" scene was non-impactful because we knew that everyone could come back later. I disagreed because it's about watching these people lose friends and family they fought so hard to protect.
It's like some people like watching the story happen to the character and some watch the character move through their story.
Totally, it was the same thing with Iron Man 2 with Tony's depression arc whilst people praise the character for the later movies despite Iron Man 2 and 3 being about Tony's internal struggle which is a lot of the comics are about. Tony's story had essentially been over by the end of phase 2.
My favorite MCU movie is Ant-Man, and even after viewing it the first time I pinned my enjoyment of it on it being a character story with incredibly low-stakes and small-scale (heh) violence. I wish more superhero movies had gone that route. Looking back at all my favorite comics, the most memorable ones, the ones I keep going back to time and time again are the non-violent ones. Richard Reed making sure that a lonely man with a terminal disease doesn't die alone; Superman waiting patiently with a suicidal woman; Wolverine "celebrating" his birthday with Spider-Man because Wolverine sees that Spider-Man expects better of Wolverine than he thinks himself capable of. The spectacle of bigger narratives with tons of violence are still good - Blackest Night and House of M are incredibly fun - but nothing lands quite like simple human connection. What I'd give for a superhero movie that doesn't have a single action scene in it. We're really losing out by not seeing humanity given the blockbuster cinematic treatment.
Don't forget kaiju movies such as the Monsterverse when they focus on the human drama instead of the monster action. Something of which I wish Salari also mentioned in this video.
most of the criticism of wandavision i've heard was about the way it devolves into a mindless fight scene at the end, and just in general fails to stick the landing of all that character exploration from earlier episodes, so i don't know if that's the best example here. like, if you have two different audiences, one who just wants the punch-em-ups and one who wants that character exploration, it tried to appeal to both and failed to satisfy either.
I found that as I've gotten older, my views on violence in media has changed a ton. I used to be really into the highly choreographed fights scenes you'd find in anime or manga, as though it was the most important aspect of the story. Nowadays, while I still enjoy those same things, whats infinitely more important to me is; Why are they fighting? How does the winner get the upper-hand and prevail? What happens when a winner is declared?
Fights and wars and such at this point seem more like writing shorthand for conflict. Its visually interesting and simple to grasp. I don't really think there's much wrong with it so long as it isn't mindless.
god i so agree. but that goes for romance and sex too. like if there is a romance and I don't want to get to know the people, either because they are cool, fun, awful, or unique, I just don't care. the US loves violence prn or sex prn but I'm just kinda like ... whatever, I want to see them make, and then have a picnic so we can see their 'deal'.
I've been getting more into sports anime lately, and I think your point illustrates why some of the best shows in the genre work so well. You get the same character motivation and strategy and action as you do in other series, but without the violence. It feels so much more grounded and focused - the action scenes are less vehicles to move the plot forward, and more opportunities for character study.
Like, I don't think I've ever seen a fight scene that comes close to the final match in _Ping Pong the Animation_
@@zk5228 Hajime no Ippo is a great one too even if it is still violence. The writer spends an equal amount of time on the characters and their goals as he does the matches. Also with it being a sport, the main cast can lose and still continue to be in the story.
Edit: my dumbass just assumed people would know what it's about. Its a boxing series.
Similarly my taste in heroes has changed. I used to love edgy anti heroes but now, in my 30's, my favourite hero is Superman. He does good because it's the right thing, not because he has a tortured, tragic backstory and had to be motivated by personal loss and also because he could easily squash anyone who comes up against him but chooses not to because he knows that just because he has all the power that doesn't mean he has the right to impose his will on people.
@@CptnBillHarris Same here! I've become a big fan of Luffy from One Piece as of late. He's a jovial dude that follows his passion and sticks up for everybody else's. He doesn't even necessarily do what's right, he just fights for freedom and I think thats wonderful.
The obsession with violence can explain one apparent contradiction when it comes to bigotry. The surveys of people's opinions all over the developed world show that most countries have population which is more likely to have nationalistic etc. views, than Americans, but those countries have less violent crimes based on race and ethnicity. I live in Russia and I know how many people here have a lot of prejudice against so many groups of people, including Central Asians, but it would be extremely unlikely to have some random person violently attacking a random Asian on the street, like it happens in the USA during last several years. All of that led me to belief, that in many countries, people have problematic beliefs, but they don't think that their beliefs is a sanction to violent action towards people they don't like, while in the USA situation is different. Maybe I am mistaken, but that is my impression
Interesting point. I would add to it, that an important factor is the portrayal of the singular, powerful hero in American movies. Weapons are force-multipliers, after all. So if their media teaches them that the best solution to a problem is for one individual, who is strong enough or has the right tools, to overpower the threat, a domestic terrorist will most likely see themselves as doing that.
Of course, a show of unity rather than individual power fantasy could have similarly destructive consequences, as a person with a dangerous worldview could see it as a call to unite with similarly minded people.
So what I think is necessary is a reasonable portrayal of the one thing all extremist thought lacks: nuance
Might be due to the incidious amount of guns on that continent. It's probably a lot easier to act on a violent impulse when you're armed to the teeth.
Exspecially as the type of person that attacs someone for their race is almost always scared of that race 'invading' or whatever. Scared people need a lot of amunition to start a fight, just saying.
They are not attacking us in the streets. At least not yet.
Yeah, russia has no bigotry issue comparable to hamurica right now, lol, are you on drugs or something?
@@NicolasCaja pretty sure you misread that
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Also the style/ look of the dress shirt.
I also enjoy evil red shadow Salari. I just hope it doesn't swallow other people up like on X-Files.
I might also slightly hope that it does swallow people up like on X-Files.
Swallows you up into a kind of Westworld full of Jarvis Cocker Cowboys.
Salari always has great style
Your mention of violence vs sexuality in American media is interesting. It makes me think of the D&D campaign I'm in, violence not graphic but present, drugs, A-ok, and romance/sexuality completely absent. We even have a running joke that our bard hasn't seduced anything yet. We never had a session 0 discussing this, we just all independently came to a conclusion that this is what we're ok with in our fantasy game.
Interesting! The elf bard I last played was a sex hungry drunkard who made his own moonshine. The sessions actually turned out quite boring for me, because so often instead of adventuring he was banging someone in the bushes, or just passed out. He also tried to solve conflicts by playing his guitar and/or singing.
I have played a game though where the GM said sex was off. We weren't allowed to have any, but anyway the campaign was set in the spirit world, so astral bodies, can't have anything exciting going on there.
@@elainelouve to each their own
I've noticed a similar thing in my games too. Tbh I think it's because the fantasy of violence is very different to the reality of violence, whereas the fantasy of a relationship is much closer to its real counterpart. When you kill a goblin there's no being in the real world that was hurt, but if your character develops a relationship, there is another person in the real world reacting emotionally to the things you're doing and saying.
@@tarjay-lx Yeah I would agree that's a big part of it. If you kill a dragon then the DM just has to factor that into the world. Whereas romantic encounters force your fellow players/DM to emotionally interact in that way.
I'm horrified at how fast I shrugged off the conclusion of this essay, after seeing your comment. I really want to argue in favor of not even suggesting the inclusion of sex in D&D games. I've been DM-ing a campaign for the past 4 years, which is something I love doing more than possibly anything else. And yet, I've been struggling for about a year handling an intimate encounter between one of the players, and an NPC which they made their romantic interest. I just, don't know how to go about making a narrative out of that sort of interactions, how to include them without feeling uncomfortable myself, or the players.
It bothers me a lot now that I think about it, how well I can manage narrating verbal/physical violence, gore, even PG-13 romance, but I can still struggle completely with an physically intimate encounter. It makes sense after enjoying an unhealthy amount of generic action and rom-com films/tv-shows. I guess I never noticed that no matter how much self aware I try to be about the media I consume, the consequences of it still manage to pop up in weirdly different places. Like when running a TTRPG session
Once again, the world collectively asks "are americans ok?"
(Also, I aspire to be as stylish as you, Salari. Great work!)
As an American, I can reply that no, not really, but there are clear signs of positive change. More and more people are starting to discard the crumbling dogmas of the past and open up to views similar to the ones expressed in this video, which makes me optimistic.
This reminds me of the disproportionate outrage over Janet Jackson's wardrobe malfunction during the 2004 halftime show at a violent football game, with beer ads. Jackson faced years-long criticism after the "controversy", Timberlake, not as much. Thank you.
I only recently learned about the whole incident and its aftermath. As an American myself, I feel so utterly disgusted by how Janet was treated for a completely harmless mishap that she wasn't even responsible for. I've never even heard of Janet before, so I'm not saying that because I'm her fan - I just can't imagine the years of unnecessary, irrational shaming she went through because America is apparently too pure for a split-second exposure to a female body.
Don't forget that youtube was created because of that
except it isnt "violent" also the whole thing was a planned stunt ..lol
Knowing Hollywood, granting more leniency around depictions of “intimacy” just means a more intensified male gaze
That's what I was thinking. Sex in movies is never actually healthy or even wanted. It's usually only put in movies for the same reason they insert violence - to sell tickets. Adding MORE sex by irresponsible Hollywood exects will probably only worsen people's feelings about their bodies and relationships.
Quite the opposite. Normalizing intimacy will make it more mundane, and the emotional response/interest from the audience will inevitably wane. If explicit intimate scenes were in every R-rated movie, that would cease to be a novelty, and viewers would pay less attention to them - it's the literal law supply & demand. The reason for American men's "male gaze" issue stems directly from the lack of culturally accepted way to experience and express their instinctive urges, leading to really unhealthy behaviors. If a man's natural urge to visually appreciate a woman's body is regarded as sinful, unusual, and unwanted, he will inevitably experience much more acute need to satisfy that urge than if he could do that in a normal, accepted, mundane fashion. That leads to a whole laundry list of horrific outcomes that I don't have time to get into here.
On this topic, I've been to Finland at some point, and nude human body is accepted to such an extent there that mixed gender saunas and nudist beaches a normal occurrence. Now, to be fair, that is no longer the case - mostly due to radically conservative immigrant influx - which is extremely disheartening. To me, a society that has an adequate, respectful, and positive approach to intimacy and nudity is a healthy one. American society is ill.
Even if you don't like the art, allowing freedom around that art is what's important.
Your argument about male gaze only acts to support the interests of those that want to tone down or hide media with LGBT characters or other "subversive" content. Sure you may not necessarily agree with people that want such, but censorship of art all comes back to the same kind of puritanism
@@andreirachko??? I was replying to the same comment you replied to? I agree with you??? You do realize you get a notif if other people reply to the same comment you did, don't you?
@@jaceybella1267 oh frick, my bad. My phone notifications made it look like you replied to me directly, I didn’t bother to double-check. Ima edit the whole thing then. Apologies~
The Hannibal thing is even more ridiculous and emblematic of the problem because what did they do to hide the buttcracks? They added more blood.
There is this thing in America where everyone is supposed to praise veterans and thank them for their sacrifice, but sometimes I feel like people go too far like this example: I’m a test proctor and I was giving a new student the test instructions like I always do, some time later this guy told me that I talked to him like he’s a little kid and to let me know he is a veteran so there was no need... yeeah.
Most of em chose to be in the military so it's like a weird extra layer
Soldiers who aren't defending their land are glorified murderers. There, I said it. And Americans never defend their land so... Yeah
"Gore? Ok. Butt cracks? Hell no! This is a family friendly show." - A Hollywood censor, probably
This is why I love Steven Universe. Most of the conflicts are resolved non-violently, Steven's weapon is a shield and his powers are healing based. Also his powers are activated by being emotionally vulnerable. It's really the antithesis to most hero narratives.
Wrote this 2 mins into the video, so I don't know if you bring this up.
And then he decides to make friends with space nazis...
@@ForsiethayTT space fascists at most, please. And while I still that what they did in the show made sense and was the best possible thing to happen (I will elaborate if you ask, but I don't want to bog down the text), I think the implications were the biggest problem with the ending
@@aliasofgray2854 Are you implying that nazis aren't fascist...? Anyway yeah I don't see how the show could've resolved its main conflict while maintaining the whole family conflict allegory. The creators really should have decided from the start whether they wanted the diamonds to represent space nazis or abusive parents and stuck with it. Makes 0 sense that they were redeemed considering the literal thousands of years of war crimes they've done.
Yeah the end really fell apart
@@ForsiethayTT why do people keep saying this Steven still hated the diamonds at the end and even vocalized how much he wanted to kill white in future. None of the gems like the Diamonds, they just convinced them to be less hostile and to leave the earth alone.
Thanks for watching!
There may be a follow up video in the future that focuses on how violence is valued in the real world. I was planning on doing so in this video, but my workload didn't permit it - I'm already stretched thin as it is, so it's difficult to cover something so complicated in one video, and sadly, taking longer between video releases can make your releases less visible when they're released, so I don't have the luxury of waiting more than a month between uploads.
A couple of quick corrections/notes:
1. Funny Games' director Michael Haneke is Austrian, not German - the cast is mostly German
2. The second amendment is in the US Constitution, not the Declaration of Independence - don't know how I confused those two
3. I shouldn't really have to say this, but my opinion on Star Wars and Marvel movies are *my opinion* - these movies already have enough defenders, so you needn't worry about my little video somehow changing the world's seemingly undying love for them. (The first two Star Wars movies are great, though)
Anyway, take care 💜
amazing you went through the whole video without so much as a snippet of A Clockwork Orange
I believe you should have had to clarify that.
When you talk about all of them being intensely mediocre and predictable you don't say "I think" or something similar, you state it as the thing that they undeniably have in common, which might be your opinion but it doesn't sound like it.
I understand that they are not cinematic masterpieces or art cinema or, most of them, not very good.
However, they have proven to at least be very entertaining to a big chunk of people. So, when you reduce them and demean them so much it makes you look snobbish and condescending; as if you believe you are above the rest and talk down at them. As if you're better than the masses that like popcorn movies.
I believe people felt the need to defend these movies, because in the video (even though it was never the intention) you seem to insult the intelligence of people that watch over and over the same mediocre and predictable movie and then stand and applaud.
I also believe I could cherry pick on these franchises, movies in which violence and spectacle was not the main point and by saying "every one of this is like that" you are kind of making a call to action for people to contradict you which is probably what a lot of people already did.
I also don't think people worry about this video having any effect but rather they either think you are wrong or don't like how you said things. So they go to the comment section.
You could have had more tact. You could have said that you personally never got what was good about them, or something like that. Instead you antagonise a portion of the audience by being a little harsher
Life must be hard if you can't even deal with a TH-camr saying the mediocre movies you like are mediocre.
Was going to say something about the 2nd amendment, but you caught it already. I think its also significant to emphasize that it was, in fact, an amendment to the original constitution, a reminder that the U.S. Constitution is not the unchanging, unfudgeable document certain people portray it as. It can be changed and has been changed to reflect a changing society.
I think that intimacy is really lacking in movies.
You have lots of xxx but almost never the intimate moments that make living with a partner so special.
All ppl do is ***, lying to each other (most of the conflicts, especially in drama (this includes books, not only tv/movies) are there because someone is not honest to someone else, wants to hide something, cheats one way or the other or there is violence.
I am so annoyed by this.
If anyone else had tackled this issue, (like a woman, POC, or someone queer), I'm sure your comments section would have been riddled with hate towards you. But maybe, now that it's coming from a white cis male, more Americans will listen. This is a topic that has baffled me, especially as someone who has grown up in the harsher parts of the deindustrialized suburbs of Chicago, where crime is rampant as a result. Whenever I say something, I'm shut down. We need a voice like yours to really hone in on this.
Christopher Lasch on "The Corruption of Sport"
I think this kind of phenomenon happens because it could be perceived that a minority is just “making things up” to make people feel “bad for them for their own benefit”, whereas if it’s not a minority, then people can be like, well, if someone who’s not part of that group also is critical of stuff that affects minorities that doesn’t directly affect them, then it can feel like, “wow because even some people of the majority recognize the wrongs of the system, then that means it’s actually true, legitimate criticism that isn’t overly biased towards their own benefit”
Granted, there are many, many cases where this doesn’t actually work
Thanks for talking about this, I HATE how violence is so normalized!
I wanna see an action film where the hero gets punched in the face in the first five minutes, then spends the next two hours recovering from painful facial reconstruction surgery and post-concussion syndrome.
I think the difference between watching violent vs "intimate" scenes around others is that the intentions of the media can feel awkward. Like the show doesn't directly want you to feel aroused but they do want you to connect with the images. Whereas emotional impact expressed through violence is largely hypothetical or metaphorical for most of us. Some of it is puritanicalism, but I don't think it's inherently hypocritical for intimacy to be sidelined even if it's the more benign concept.
Not "some" of it, all of it is Puritanical. It'd be nice if Hollywood was just as accepting of nudity as they are with gore.
I have received death threats for speaking out about all of the above. It gives me hope for humanity to find out more people feel like I do.
Boomer here, I've lived with wars and the movies that glorified "Truth,Justice and the American Way of Life ( ie: military superiority)", my entire life. And its that generation of people that are either writing scripts or producing movies today or mentoring future filmmakers, its a wash,rinse, repeat because that's where the $$ is.
I don't agree that Jaws was the first blockbuster. While the label may not have been used movies like Ben Hur, 10 Commandments, Cleopatra, Gone With the Wind, are just a few titles that pop into mind as early Blockbusters. I do enjoy your videos, always insightful and thought provoking. Keep up the good work!
Reminds me how people were disappointed that the fight in the final "Twilight" movie was not real, and vampires decided to settle the conflict after seeing how bad it would end... Twilight aren't good movies, of course, but the lack of actual death in the last one isn't really a bad thing in them. I was shocked at how conditioned most people are to see actual violence and death in the end of any franchise and how they are dissatisfied if it doesn't happen
Stewie didn't really kill Lois on Family Guy, either, that really sucked ass.
Maybe it had more to do with the fact that the director inserted an entire ending that seemed to be wildly different from the original narrative and hand-waved it all away as a vision/dream.
Personally, I learned in grade school that one shouldn't drop dream-twists when writing because it's a lazy way to resolve conflict.
The matter of the fact is that in Breaking Dawn part 2 gave the audience a huge load of conflict (narrative conflict) and then did not provide a fulfilling conclusion to that level of conflict. I don't think people wanted the deaths to actually happen, they would rather that scene never be included at all.
I honestly felt betrayed by that twist, it felt like they were pulling punches and deflating shocking/impactful moments from the battle.
Also Twilight is kino.
i never saw the last twilight movie in theaters, but read the book back then, and i really liked it actually😅 i liked that i didnt HAVE to have my heart crushed at the end bc there "has to be fighting", no one had to die, i didnt have to be sad, nice! when i saw the movie i had stopped caring either way bc i stopped caring about twilight, but in general im in favour of happy endings in movies, even if its anticlimactic lmao. i just get really sad really easily, and in general, dont want my fiction to do that to me 😂
I mean that could have less to do with violence and more the fact that it was a poorly written film with poorly written source material.
I was nodding along by the end. I think a lot of mainstream media makers really underestimate the power of love and the attachment that builds between audiences and the relationships characters have for each other. Not just in terms of the rumpy pumpy, but honestly just in general. Take your example: Civil War, right? It's intrinsically a movie about love, but it did so little legwork in that respect that it ended up being a movie where they just threw heroes at each other to make a great big spectacle and watered down the justification until it was so barely a thing that you could blink and miss it. Now imagine if they'd doubled down on the love; made me genuinely believe these people personally cared about each other, loved each other and trusted each other, and not just in terms of how useful they could be to each other in a fight? Then the interpersonal turmoil, friends fighting friends stuff would have had some weight behind it; an emotional impact. I think to a certain degree there's people in the audience who don't know what they're missing, because they've been conditioned to prefer big flashy glossy action scenes that last for 40 minutes straight and roll their eyes at a conversation that 'drags on' for more than 20 seconds.
The Black Widow movie is a great example, too. Literally any time someone sits and tries to have the conversations you WANT them to have, 20 seconds later they're interrupted by an action sequence. Where's MY pay off, huh?
If we look at Rambo it is very clear that a message can be badly interpreted.
It was ment as a film about the horrors of war.
Now its the glorification of it.
You're my favourite Alucard impersonator.
He *would* know about gratuitous violence.
Cosplayer
I’ve only seen the Abridged.
The US (as someone that grew up in it partly, currently living here, born in it, but not white and also well traveled during my formative years) to me is bewildering. I find the country so much. Too much. So much of this country’s vision of itself is on being seen as dominant, extroverted, action oriented and aggressive. It’s values also seep into what you talked about with toxic masculinity. The masculinity of the US isn’t attractive it’s suffocating. Then the weird expected/imposed cliches expected of other backgrounds, like Asians being seen as submissive sheep, Hispanics of all sorts being seen as sexual passive aggressive hedonists, and let’s not get started on the duality of representation of the genders when it comes to black people. It gives the impression that the only representation the country feels comfortable of seeing of itself is absolute dominance but not just that, but dominance while the others are represented as less (or made fun of). It reminds me of details of why Americans aren’t liked overall when you factor every culture in the world, and the ones that do like us, tend to be, equally “strange”. Great conversation as usual. Also, as always, love your dapper but quirky stylings.
Yeah the US is a settler colonial state that pretends very very hard that it isn't. It was literally founded on violent subjugation so it's no surprise that it's been at nonstop war pretty much its entire existence. And all the bigotry in the US makes it very easy to whip up support for more violence.
America is a mixing pot of literally almost everyone in the world. America was made with a white society in mind and has a long history of discrimination. But this is our (minorities) home just as much as it is their's. And the "whip up support of violence" comment, I do agree but ther will always be people who are against war and violence, and will happily protest it.
Stop listening to fucking America-hating communist democrats, we're not fucking "equals" buddy. There's a damn good reason Europe colonized most of the West, it wasn't through "peace and equality.
Fun fact about Star Wars, George Lucas based the Rebels off of the Vietcon while the Empire is based off the United States w/Nazi Germany symbolism (Stormtroopers for example). Also notice how many Americans love the Empire, the Sith or the Darkside in general. Makes you wonder though
People also love the main cast. The fuck is your point? People can love villains while still being law-abiding citizens
so true - it's messed up how our culture glorifies violence yet censors even mild noodity and s33x
One of my parents is part of a committee that decides on a movie's age restriction rating in my country. These people are between a rock and a hard place - on the one hand, they are constantly pressured by distributors to issue the lowest rating possible to make the movie available to a larger audience, meaning that very gory or sexually explicit images are often pushed to younger and younger audiences. On the other hand, there are the official guidelines on what content is OK for a certain age and at least here, those are VERY specific but ominously lack any LGBTQ++ guidelines. So my parent recently shared that one of the distributors was worried that their movie will be boycotted simply because it depicts a loving relationship between two men (no sex scenes). And on the third hand, you have a very vocal, very conservative part of the media, semi-political organizations and parent groups that screams against LGBTQ, sex, violence, anything that even remotely toes the line. Honestly, it's a mess.
As a game developer, I've always found it kind of tiring that almost all games are predicated on violence. You're always going around killing everything you see. Apart from it being predictable and kinda boring, it's also painfully indicative of a violent culture I feel. I try to make my games involve as little violence as possible. In my newest one, you make friends instead of killing folks. It's a bit of a challenge breaking that mold, I'll admit, but I think it's nice to do.
Reminds me of undertale!
For me, the most interesting part of Marvel movies are when the heroes don’t want to fight, or want the violence to stop. There will of course be big cgi fight scenes, but personally I find value in the character dramas that gives me a meaningful experience watching the films.
Iron Man dealing with guilt of his weapons polluting the world, Captain America wanting to leave the war behind, Bucky and Shang Chi wanting to atone for the violence they committed, etc.
While there is a formula, the creative process isn’t nearly so limited to a chokehold, and I kind of wish the MCU didn’t need to be a punching bag to get these points across, or at the very least not in a way that says they’re objectively meaningless.
@Erwin Lii The glorified rich asshole killed himself to save the universe, the propagando hero turned against his government when they were infiltrated by a nazi death cult, and the unwilling heir of a powerful criminal organization saved an ancient and thriving culture from being wiped out by his conqueror father.
And for me as an Asian person it was moving to see an Asian superhero on the big screen.
There are a lot of good things to mine from these stories if you’re open to them.
@Erwin Lii I am a nonbinary pansexual storyteller and I enjoy the MCU, especially the content made BIPOC creators in the industry.
@Erwin Lii My point is that what they do still matters, and saying otherwise is suggesting they have no value simply because of who they work under.
@The Storyteller Thanks for your comment. Is very easy to watch the MCU in cynical way, but like you show, there is more ways to watch these movies.
The United States of America are the only country in the Western World where is acceptable teaching your kids how to shoot a gun but is outrageous to show mildly sexual scenes in media or open society to the LGBT community or teach proper sex education in schools to avoid having unwanted pregnancies and the spread of STDs or grant to everyone the access to healthcare.
Only leftists such as yourself find no issue with LGBT. I don't think you know actual conservative opinions if you aren't willing to discuss self-mutilation.
Damn near every citizen have weaponry of some kind. It's one of the reasons we _can't_ be invaded.
@@anayos6726 again another one that don't understand the topic because of a lack of knowledge on the matter but still open his mouth.
What you define wrongly as self mutilation first and foremost is not that second is one if the many procedures like for instance hormone therapy that the scientific community at large defines as procedures and methods to improve measurably and significantly the life of LGBT people. It serve the porpoise of making them feeling good and themselves rather that what the norms want them to be.
They can be life saving treatments as many LGBT people are at risk of suicide because of how uncomfortable or suppressed they feel when first instance their family press them to be what they don't want to be or just treat them like crap.
We have a vast scientific literature on that that thoroughly debunk the toxic and belittling conservative narrative on the LGBT community, that provide a huge amount of evidence to sustain their findings. Which is not the case for conservative point of view on the matter, that is instead bs and scaremongering.
Why only right winger like you think that they are too smart for science?
The best example of how desensitized we are is that John wick reason to go to war was because of a dog.
I think we really underestimate a normal, healthy person's ability to distinguish between fantasy and reality in entertainment and use the minority of people out there that can't to make hyberbolic generalizations about society way too much, to the point that people accept such exaggerated statements as truth.
"So the FCC won't let me be. Or let me be me. So let me see. They tried to shut me down on MTV but it'd be so empty without me."
As an American is a bit culture shocking to watch Torchwood where the sex was a lot more explicit but the violence was much more subdued (at least in the first 2 seasons)
The un-importance of diplomacy thing, I was trying to find a term for that! I recently watched "another life" and it might be because I'm used to the star trek way of doing first contact, but I went in to a fair few rants about how the show is so USlike and how maybe they could just try talking before shooting sometimes? It's exactly that. Diplomacy is important! Use it!
(I'm not from the US btw XD)
I definitely got excited when I saw your video show up in my feed. I've been needing something to listen to while I work and your videos are excellent! Thank you for making my afternoon better.
Another well thought out and thorough analysis!!! ❤️
For me, in my own naive way, I always understood violence to be popular because it was the ultimate shortcut. Not giving a moral judgement, but any problem that could not be shortcut with violence (and also stupidity as violence doesn't require clever strategies most of the time) could not be solved expeditiously. If you only care about efficient and timely effects, violence is available. If you care about literally anything else, violence is not usually the answer. Which is why if you're a capitalist, violence is almost always the answer. Copperhead massacre. Battle of Blair mountain. The great railroad strike. Assassinations in South American Coca-Cola plants. The killing of native Hawaiians and the coup d'etat in the name of Dole fruit.
That's not capitalism you fucking retard. That's called an invasion. Though I don't expect socialites to understand the free market
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Oh, sorry. First of all, I don't respect your lack of counterargument. Second, socialites are rich people who are known for public gatherings. Third, you known nothing and I can prove it. Blair Mountain and the Copperhead massacre were bosses getting the government to kill workers to end strikes. Not as directly in the Railway strike but there were instances of killing.
I'm sure those individuals that think that war should be the center of American foreign policy wouldn't feel that way if the war was over here in America, if the US had to become the desolate, war-torn, ravaged country that it has helped so many other countries to become for a change.
Yes we still would. Violence begets violence, mate. We pride ourselves on being the world police for a damn good reason.
Now if only you commies would move to your proper socialist homeland, to leave the capitalists prospering as they should.
I've been wondering about the "grimdark medieval fantasy" series trend, where I also include many historical series, since they seem more like fantasy. Anyway it's these very dark shaded, super serious, extremely violent series. I know the past was more violent than our time, but still... In the 17th century love was a huge theme in fiction, and well appreciated. And cute pastoral settings, while there was constant war and often famines going on IRL.
People (I mean the warrior elite, since they're often the focus of these stories we tell) didn't want to see violence all the time, so they came up with lots of beautiful things, romance, music, humor, etc. Why is it that when we want to make these series, there's nothing but darkness and despair, resolved by killing hundreds of opponents in as cruel manner as you can think of?
Edit: I'm a long time horror fan, and like watching these series, same as I like watching non-violent drama. I also like to analyze things and view stuff I like with a critical eye.;)
I gotta say, this is a small small issue with A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones, and I know all of the SA is the biggest problem, but I always found it really weird that, in the show especially, there's... no art? No portraits? Anywhere? Of anyone? There's the statue of Balor, and there's the stained glass, but nothing else? They make these glorious, intricate clothes for the aristocracy but nobody paints or draws or sketches?? Now, admittedly, the longer we get away from the publication of the books and even the end of the show, my memory fades *fast* but why aren't there tapestries? Why aren't there paintings? It's baffling.
@@yarnpenguin true. I do get it as a stylistic choice, and enjoy watching these series, but still have been wondering. They also painted the medieval castles both inside and outside. On the inside with decorative images. And used elaborate fabrics as room dividers. Having unpainted rock walls just spells "peasant".x) Though of course if they're filming in some historical location, painting anything wouldn't work, but if it's a set, then why not?
@@elainelouve It's certainly a stylistic choice, and if/when they were filming in historical locations, not adding any more decorative touches makes absolute sense. The way your comment mentioned humour and art and the like made me think of how all of that seems missing except for the songs and the single minstrel that appears on the show. Our own equivalent time period--probably the 15th century--was TEEMING with art for the nobility.
berserk is amazing
Pretty sure after they got done punishing people violently they indeed made stories that weren't that violent cx
7:27 probably a nitpick but it was actually the ratification of the US Constitution that was signed after the revolution and gave the amendments, not the declaration of independence.
Thanks - I had a record-scratch moment there, and had to pause and come down to the comments to see if someone had called this out, or I'd do it myself.
You're being kind calling it a nitpick - it's a long way from 1776 to 1787 and a big difference between a Declaration and a Constitution.
this was a topic i never thought would be so interesting and important, thank you for covering it!
Funny thing, we never stopped having military campaigns since the founding of the nation. I worked on Hawthorn Wright’s fantastic Military Chronology which she detailed a very well researched chronology of our military (I know, ye gods do I know, I helped with that research) and by 2000 there were over 241 major military actions by the USA. It began long before we ever got to the days of WWI. We started by fighting and we never, ever stopped.
at 14:16 you can just see how damn pleased he is with the transition he came up with for the ad break
I'm truly upset about the problems you experienced with the Japan video. I came to know you thanks to it and it was brilliantly crafted. How you managed every topic and specially mental Heald was great. It's so wrong that mental health is also a topic that gets censored...
the us is one of the oldest continuous governments still around. people think of america as a young country but it isn't. And the various native tribal governments existed loooong before. it is in no definition a "new" country.
Well maybe it is the problem when some laws don't change since 18th century...
@@KateeAngel yeah. maybe an update would help. still waiting on the 1972 ERA to get even talked about seriously again.
The US government has only been a full democracy since 1965, when the Voting Rights Act of 1965 was passed, because before then the right to vote was actively suppressed in communities of color through racist laws and violence (Voting rights are sadly reverting now but that's another discussion).
Even so, our government is definitely very new by that definition, and i think it puts our history in better perspective than justifying our national obsession with violence by saying the country is really old.
@@garaj1 I did not say it was the oldest democracy. i said it is one of the oldest continuous governments currently in existence. also i didn't justify anything. i just think it's silly to act like america is "this young country." it's very very old.
there are a lot of definitions of a "full" democracy. America may not be the democracy you want, but it is and was designed as one in some form.
(edit: i would call a direct democracy, full dem. we have a representative democracy. which by it's nature is more achievable but you give up power with the convenience. they suck to live in. if you have ever done Co-op living, you will know what I mean.)
@@hannahep5148 Those are good points, and I apologize for assuming you were justifying America's violence obsession with your original comment. I've seen way too many people doing that sort of thing in these types of comment sections and i wrongly assumed that of you.
Also, what i meant by full democracy was a government where every person's vote counts, and isn't allowed to be manipulated. My definition was similar to the Economist's Democracy Index. I'm well aware that we're technically a representative democracy, but that wasn't what i was talking about earlier.
I tried not to get into semantics with this to keep my comment readable, but i hope that clears that aspect of it up.
Edit: Basically, you're right that this country's government is the oldest one now. But in terms of having a multiracial democracy, I still think ours is very young, and knowing that is more useful to solving our problems than just thinking about our history in terms of our government's age in and of itself.
As a Southern American, I once asked, How did all of America turn into the South? Then I read Albion's Seed, the chapter on the North British settling the Southern Back Country and then spreading elsewhere. I found half my answer there and half in the chapter on the Mid Atlantic and New England cultural settlement.
This video made me reflect on how I used to write stories in the past compared to now. In the past, I felt like I needed to include a fight scene or some kind of conflict just for the story to be exciting (epic if you will). Now, I find myself focusing more on the psychology of characters and how they interact with others in the world. It went beyond action and more into exploring more philosophical stuff. Of course, having a bit of violence and action isn't bad (I still love me a good, well thought out fight scene), but it's interesting to think about how I made that shift. Amazing how a shift in your worldview can change how you approach certain things in life.
I laughed out loud at 9:12! It's not hard to 'explain' gay ppl lol. I was playing a song by Chika in the car (my kids love that song) and she said 'the only girl that got my heart live in Miami' or some such. My 8 yr old daughter asked if a man or woman was singing (heteronormativity) and I said a woman and she was confused (I think, based on her assumptions from what she'd learnt to date) but didn't push it. Next time the song played she asked again. And I said, women can like women too. And that was it. Now, I can't say this is the whole discussion that needs to happen but I don't see the 'big explanation' that is needed that gay ppl exist. We need to not hide our kids away from others and then there will be no BIG REVEAL later on in life.
My knee jerk reaction to the "tits vs gore" debate has always been that explicit sex rarely adds anything to a story. It's usually enough to just let the audience know that two characters are fucking and be done with it. Unless the story is specifically about sex, sex scenes don't add anything. But then I have to remember that the same can be said about violence. And the string that ties it all together is that there are way more movies that are specifically about violence than sex. It's also odd that the spectacle of violence should be given leeway over the spectacle of sex. Both are meant to titillate the audience, just in different ways.
This video makes me think about how violence is perpetuated by movies in my own country. Violence is even shown towards women with one director even infamously claiming that 'What is love between a couple without some hitting?'
Actually in my country there are way too much scenes where clear domestic violence is portrait in a kind of a joking manner (dad and son, hunsband and wife, brother and sister) or as an act of discipline (usually a man "discipline" a woman for her "mistakes") and it grosses me out to no end but unfortunately many people don't actually mind domestic violence in these frames in real life and Idk if it's the normalization or the "culture" but either way .. it scares me so much
I think a big part of this culture came out if the growth post WW2, just the way suburbs came into existence such much growth came from it and the people who returned were glorified in a bizzare way. The most manly men to ever men if that makes sense. So America constantly looks back via media on the glory of that kinda stuff, even those beliefs of the 50s and 60s.
I tend to shit on retards like Shoe0nhead and Hasanabi who think masculinity is a prison- it's a blessing.
Listen to folks like YoungRippa, Razorfist, and Raging Golden Eagle instead.
Excellent video as always. Also thank you for acknowledging how other countries have different censorship standards (Japan especially, given how many neckbeards seem to think their media is a free-for-all)
"You are fine with seeing body parts and heads blown up, in tv shows, movies, video games, like life has no value, but you can't talk openly about masturbation"
Angela from the movie "Now and Later" (2009)
When we are still having debates about whether or not a woman can show her nipple in public to feed a baby, THAT is a problem.
I needed this video :3 You're my fave TH-camr!
That was very insightful! I was visiting the coliseum in Rome this year and was shocked and amazed at the same time. I think the enjoyment of violence and spectacle and it's historical role in establishing Nations (e.g. Rome) is a fascinating topic.
"America's obsession with violence"
"laughs in humanity butchering themselves for thousands of years"
"Also laughs in "pre-code" Hollywood"
"...only sports games are devoid of violence..."
You've never seen me play a sports game obviously. If it's at all possible -- there will be more violence than actual sports.
Citation: my brother and I accidentally hitting each other with the wii remote during wii sports.
I do not know you or how i am here less than an hour after the release of this video. Regardless!! I am loving it!! You got yourself a new subscriber :)
Great video. Just have to say that I disagree with the assertion that horror movies are condemnation of violence. If anything, they're a release for a lot of impulses. This is backed up by any survivors in these films usually surviving due to them committing violence. I don't think anyone survived a Saw movie through debate? Do I think this formula is tired? Yes. But I don't think they condemn the violence they show.
That's what I was thinking as well
Technically franchises like Saw and Hostel are not considered "horror films", but a sub-genre of horror films called splatter, or torture porn, and the fans of these films watch them for completely different reasons than most of the demographic for a typical horror film.
@@NelsonStJames Ha ha! What?! A "sub-genre" is still part of that genre. I used Saw in my example but you can just as easily swap it out for Texas Chainsaw Massacre and my point still stands.
@@rubberlover666 Yes the Texas Chainsaw massacre is another slasher/splatter film. You seem like the kind of person who can't conceive of horror existing outside the slasher formula regardless of the fact that it has been a genre since at least Frankenstein which reeks of a person who looks from the outside to the inside and making a judgement based off of limited information and literacy in the genre.
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Love that you used Kaine Salvation at 28:33 as background music. Great taste and choice!
I love horror and kind of didn't like how you seemed to be complaining about PG-13 horror movies. I don't think violence and gore make something scarier. You said that violence in horror movies is made to disgust and disturb people but, especially movies like Saw, that's really not true. The violence in a lot of horror movies is not to teach people violence is bad or disturb them. It is something to be 'enjoyed' and sell more tickets in the same way that you complain about for other media. Idk, people are really harsh to PG-13 movies and that irks me.
Also, I agree that it's weird that violence is so normalized and considered "family-friendly" but I don't think there's anything wrong with giving an R rating to sex. Sex should be for adults, y'know. Though it is really terrible that gay relationships are also considered "inappropriate" while straight relationships in the same situation wouldn't. That's messed up. Also, you mention love a lot but I feel most movies don't portray love - especially many super sexual movies. I don't think you were saying 'love' to mean 'sex' but talking about censoring sex then following it that with the importance of love made it seem so. I feel like most people would agree sex in media is often not from a healthy relationship or love. I think we SHOULD be focusing on plot development, characters, "love" in the sense of solving problems non-violently, and all kinds of relationships. I just honestly wish movies had both less violence and sex. In the same way as they add fight scenes to sell more tickets, sex is usually added to a movie for money purposes rather than to portray love or build the plot/characters.
This guy doesn't seem to understand freedom of expression- or liberty.
You don't have to agree with LGBT (frankly I don't find it to be moral), lots of folks still see it as sexual deviancy. Which it is.
It's just fun to watch-On a *fictional* level. I'd be horrified at the sight of a murder taking place, in reality.
thanks for making such good quality content!
This video is accurate but I hope (haven’t gotten to the end yet) it’s not just solely accusing Americans of extreme violence when violence has been around since the birth of agriculture. The story of Cain and Abel can be viewed as a metaphor for the shift in humanity from meat and random plant eating nomads to farmers whose territory amount of territory and farm land one gained directly correlated to wealth.
Oh and we can’t forget that hangings used to be a big to do.
Nobunaga is seen as the hero of Japan and his bloody conquests can be seen in multiple iterations throughout their media.
Mayan temples were for public sacrifices to the gods.
Fill in the blank with a society and you will find a people who entertain themselves with violence.
What has changed is that because our P2P violence today is so hands off and out of sight today, we have found new method to entertain that part of our brain that has existed since human society started, with guns and explosions on the screen.
Exactly!! 👏🏽👏🏽
Well said
Brilliant video as always!
I absolutely love that you used Bioshock Infinite music in the background.
Another good one thanks dude
Really love your videos! Thanks for the hard work! 🌹
Amazing video as always!
Violence is definitely everywhere but idk I just like it when Megatron grabs an autobot and rips him in half like the king he is
"You want a piece of me? You want a piece?!"
"NO! I want TWO!"
Kaines theme drops and it hits hard, great vid as well
Blood Gore and Violence OKAY.
Showing a little bit of skin OMG the the world is on FIRE.
Great video btw keep it up👍
When you mentioned indie games with less combat I immediately clicked over from photoshop (Where I'm drawing Disco Elysium fanart) to see if you were going to show it and I'm so happy you did.
I think knowing better’s most recent video explains exactly why violence is so ever present in American media. Honestly I wish I watched your video then his cause they are such good companion pieces
I could listen to this all day long ^^
❤️ Thanks for a great video, as usual
thank you for another great video. I was always disturbed by the fact that the same country that kills the most people on-screen in their movies is also the same country that kills most people off-screen in their wars.
there's been a lot of talk about this in the ttrpg community with the most popular game (D&D) giving every player a set of abilities that are mostly for combat (unsurprisingly it came out of war games),, I think a lot of people who branch out into other systems do so to get away from the combat mechanics so they can tell different types of stories than the ones that D&D incentivizes
I played my first game last week and we ended up accidentally masacreing 100s of people…
Which is what makes D&D great- none of that hippie "peace and love" garbage leftists think the world is.
Its a lot like ancient rome with gladiatorial combat for entertainment, just with less actual maiming
IMHO this is all the legacy of WWII - society is still trying to reconcile the intergenerational trauma and scale of that war. Just look at how many plays the Greeks made about conflicts and catastrophes that took place hundreds of years prior to their lives.
As much as I love the silly, ironic side of TH-cam, I really enjoy your style. I found your channel after listening to DFW’s This is Water for the 73rd time and then got recommended one of your videos. Idk how to put this, but your videos are honest and wholesome at the same time, which makes me believe you really are genuinely as perceptive and empathetic as you come off in your videos.
So many of us have really unhealthy parasocial (first time using that word) relationships with creators but you have a really good balance of being authentic without manipulating it for your own ego boost.
“Well-adjusted” is what comes to mind. Lol
Loved Welcome to Columbia playing in the background.
Europe: “Son!?! Where did you get this?!?”
USA: “I got it from you dad, I got it from you” 😔
Seriously though great vid, you went into our history and current issues very well
Great vid
i have to argue with one point: star wars didn't *establish* the idea of a grand good vs evil conflict. that has been present in literature long before back to greek mythology and epics such as Beowulf all the way to LotR. the celebration of violence isnt a new phenomenon. we can see it in greco-roman cultures and beyond
i live in an extremely red state and your videos keep me sane.
Cry harder socialite
Your use of Kaine's Theme was impeccable.
THANK YOU FOR THE MARVEL CIVIL WAR POINT that was frustrating me so hard in the theater when watching lol i was like JUST TALK TO EACH OTHER
Thanks for recommending 'Funny Games', just finished watching, loved it. It's been so long since I've seen a good Horror.
kinda off topic and i don't mean to take away from your wonderful script. but i'm loving the final fantasy music in the bg!