Flats Reacts to Overwatch 2 Tiktoks That Are Mostly Just WRONG

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  • @z-r-e7056
    @z-r-e7056 ปีที่แล้ว +1752

    the raw confidence with “i had to tell the mercy to pocket the tank” shook me to the core

    • @theslenderfox
      @theslenderfox ปีที่แล้ว +219

      "I YELLED AT MY MERCY TO THROW THE GAME"

    • @aaetriv
      @aaetriv ปีที่แล้ว +147

      he's silver. on CONSOLE. since finding this out none of his takes have surprised me LMAO

    • @TheHonestSage
      @TheHonestSage ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@aaetriv my maaaan hwaaaaat, thats WILD

    • @TurtlesTM
      @TurtlesTM ปีที่แล้ว +39

      bro probably thinks healbotting as mercy is productive

    • @brown9671
      @brown9671 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      what i wouldnt give for a mercy to pocket me everygame

  • @fourteenULTIMA
    @fourteenULTIMA ปีที่แล้ว +1091

    as a mercy main i think i was dealt psychic damage hearing "i had to tell the mercy to pocket the tank"

    • @BOBMARIYO
      @BOBMARIYO ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Truu a mercy pocketing a tank is just wasted potential

    • @aquilanusUK
      @aquilanusUK ปีที่แล้ว +51

      I pocket dps, but will keep an eye in the tank. That guy is off his trolley.

    • @LionWithAGun
      @LionWithAGun ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@BOBMARIYO mercy alone= gohan at start of dbz. can do a small burst of damage then downed. mercy pocketing tank= gohan ssj2 vs cell. can win if really pushing it and ends in a close win with barley any life remaining mercy pocketing dps= gohan beast mode in dbs heros. will fuck over anything in their way. i cant believe someone would waste their effort and energy to keep a tank pocket when the dps being boosted would clear the enemies far more faster and give the team time to heal before the next fight.

    • @somethingsomething911
      @somethingsomething911 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I don't play mercy and i wanted to take an electrical drill and drill into my brain during the entire follow up video

    • @BringerOfMoisture
      @BringerOfMoisture ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@BOBMARIYO idk her pocketing a Junkerqueen is unironically not too bad of an idea in gold and plat. The thing about her bleed now is that, since it’s a multiplier rather than 1.5, DAMAGE BOOSTED bleeds heals a downright absurd amount of you keep bleeding people.

  • @muzankibutsuji8919
    @muzankibutsuji8919 ปีที่แล้ว +587

    “I keep getting bad teams”
    “Mercy pocket our tank”

  • @yesman2473
    @yesman2473 ปีที่แล้ว +664

    “ I had to tell the mercy to pocket the tank” is the most bronze comment Ive heard

    • @longshadow2388
      @longshadow2388 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      the funniest part: hes silver

    • @THE_MOONMAN
      @THE_MOONMAN ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Dude yeah that made me cringe so hard. Literally not Mercy's job. Ive gotten this a lot when I play zen. People will tell me to leave or of harmony on a tank and just leave it there ... Meanwhile we had a genji(while he was still super fast too) who was basically carrying, but leaving orb on our tank is the right thing to do?? So ridiculous

    • @h6u3
      @h6u3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@longshadow2388 apparently hes also console lol

    • @Grand_Kekthew_
      @Grand_Kekthew_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They're either gonna outdamage the heal or just look for another one to try and kill so heal-only tank ain't the best option.

    • @Relevart9169
      @Relevart9169 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@h6u3 silver console so basically wood

  • @nuketnz7801
    @nuketnz7801 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    When bro said mercy should pocket the tank I had a mini stroke

  • @igordizdarevic8964
    @igordizdarevic8964 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    Yesterday I had QP push game where we started without support players, the game just didn't load any. Enemy team won 1st engagement and then they realized it was 3v5 situation so they stopped fighting us and we started goofing around. Later on our 2 missing support players joined the game and joined the fun too :D That was my favorite game of OW ever :')

    • @TheToppestOfNeps
      @TheToppestOfNeps ปีที่แล้ว +14

      i wish i could have fun games like that

    • @HueyFreeman.
      @HueyFreeman. ปีที่แล้ว +7

      had a game like that yesterday where one enemy left and it was a good game too we just started emoting and our lucio did the music emote and it was like a lil party🥳😎

    • @kassandraofodyssey6475
      @kassandraofodyssey6475 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Reminds me of a QP game of push in Junkertown I had after Thanksgiving. Everyone stopped fighting for a moment and talked about what they had for Thanksgiving dinner. It was lovely!

    • @phoebesage3316
      @phoebesage3316 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I had a qp game where an enemy wanted a certain achievement of whatever, so we all just helped him get it. It was fun just kinda running around, not doing anything. l

    • @vivelespatat2670
      @vivelespatat2670 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In TF2, this is a normal occurence in every games you play

  • @svenb.9363
    @svenb.9363 ปีที่แล้ว +626

    I think that if you have a mindset that it's your fault you lost a game, you will improve so much more than if you blame it on your teammates.
    Edit: I just realised this comment is a little confusing for some people. I meant more like you do a self reflection on what you could have done better, instead of thinking you are perfect and blaming your teammates for everything that went wrong.

    • @Jammy-James2
      @Jammy-James2 ปีที่แล้ว +102

      I have a friend who does that and she is super depressed. So make sure you keep a healthy balance

    • @svenb.9363
      @svenb.9363 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      @@Jammy-James2 Yeah I meant more like "I could have done more that game".

    • @Jammy-James2
      @Jammy-James2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@svenb.9363 that's good yeah

    • @HelloGG678
      @HelloGG678 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@svenb.9363I should probably start doing that instead of “man I was shit that game I was the reason our team lost” 😭😭

    • @donovan4222
      @donovan4222 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Met a guy playing Lucio in voice the other day who started screaming and blaming his team after we lost one team fight, then we started winning and he said “your welcome guys” taking all the credit lmao

  • @bigred7646
    @bigred7646 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    “Very rarely do people remember the games they lose” me losing most games

  • @Faceless_one_
    @Faceless_one_ ปีที่แล้ว +817

    Let’s be honest. When has TikTok ever been right

  • @Shard314
    @Shard314 ปีที่แล้ว +287

    It would be funny if you could invite the TikTokers to play and show their wonderful skills

    • @SocialExperiment232
      @SocialExperiment232 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Yes. He should do this.

    • @stellarblades
      @stellarblades ปีที่แล้ว +26

      He deffo gotta invite that raccoon guy😭 it’ll be so fucking funny

    • @LionWithAGun
      @LionWithAGun ปีที่แล้ว +8

      please no. we dont need them to milk it as them being so good actual good players reach out to play with them. they wont learn, theyll zone out and only think of their egos going up

    • @ccricers
      @ccricers ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I watched the newbie who called Brigitte "Bridget" play, it was how I expected it to be and for some reason still used the portrait format when recording his games

  • @sushiroll3795
    @sushiroll3795 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Every time I've had a Mercy who's pocketed the tank, my team has lost lol.

    • @karamei
      @karamei ปีที่แล้ว +2

      10000%. hate to see it :( (edit: and if the tank happens to be the only hero worth pocketing, mercy may not be the pick and/or it may be a team diff loss)

  • @hervis_daubeny152
    @hervis_daubeny152 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I had a game where our dps told our zenyattas mum to fall down the stairs...because he died, as he solo rushed the enemy team as pharah completely out of sight lines of our whole team.

    • @rossjones8656
      @rossjones8656 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I haven't ran into that but that physically and mentally hurt me considering I've had a reaper yell for healing and ran away from me as a moria trying to heal him and went to my friend who was mercy.

    • @Kamui385
      @Kamui385 ปีที่แล้ว

      based

  • @campernocamping1
    @campernocamping1 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    5:00 These are the type of dudes to fixate on one mistake you made ten minutes ago. And they will literally stay in that negative mindset until the match ends, utterly insufferable to play with. As a side note yelling at your teammates, when they make mistakes, is a method of forcing people to internalize the mistake itself. Which typically results in high amounts of distress and, unsurprisingly, more mistakes.

    • @missacat5027
      @missacat5027 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lmao.. reminds me of one day i had a mad genji in one comp game. played as Ana and boosted him.. he failed claimbing a wall and when he finally got up, he presided to ult but died right away. We where far ahead with pushing the robot but he got so angry that he started yelling at me on voice telling me how horrible i am with Ana, blaming me for his fuckup. I tried to stay calm but the guy kept talking bad about how i played, so i told him to shut up but it just ended in everyone on team yelling at each other.. we ended up losing even thought it had been a easy win.

  • @leirach77
    @leirach77 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    I feel like something a lot of hardstuck players need to realize is that the only commonality, in all of their games, is them. They are the only reliable variable to their games. So their best chance of success is to make sure that they improve because they're the only person who's gonna change their own career.

    • @Quazex
      @Quazex ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm sorry but I read hardstuck as homestuck

    • @KidNoraa
      @KidNoraa ปีที่แล้ว

      this is straight up wrong, I'll top frag every single game (wins and losses) and 3 placements later still be in mid silver its dogshit.

    • @anthonyconley9856
      @anthonyconley9856 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@KidNoraa This is good bait😆😆😆

    • @ReizokoRyu
      @ReizokoRyu ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@KidNoraa where's the skull emojis in your comment? 💀💀💀

    • @dapperparraper860
      @dapperparraper860 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A lot of people also need to understand that let’s be honest there will be games where you if you want to rank up more or faster you have to get good enough to carry. Like you said you are the only reliable variable and while ideally in games like this the spread of responsibility would be about even that isn’t always the case and the only one you can guarantee to pick up the slack is yourself. If there’s a Pharah harassing your team while your playing support and your dps isn’t or can’t do anything about? Pick Baptiste and try to shoot her out of the air. Do you have a teammate who won’t switch off a character? It could be that they’re a one trick or that they aren’t skilled enough with the hero you are suggesting to turn the game around. The key here is sometimes you’re going to need to play around the mistakes of others if you want to win more games instead of expecting top 500 game sense and reasoning. Also make sure you’re actually using your comms for info and callouts and not just bitch or whining without any actual suggesting. Yes your Reaper might indeed be ass but like so? And the sky is blue. Is mentioning it going to make him suddenly the perfect teammate or help him stop his poor positioning. Instead of telling your tank he’s ass maybe actually think about why he’s dying and try to help him out via comms or gameplay.

  • @maazabbasi9174
    @maazabbasi9174 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    TWO Flats Tiktok vids in a ROW?? Must be my lucky day(s)

    • @LionWithAGun
      @LionWithAGun ปีที่แล้ว +6

      must be christmas or somethin. was the only thing i had on my list this year and its coming true

  • @furretx8384
    @furretx8384 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    6:18 I was playing a match with this guy once, and he was literally throwing as Zenyatta, discording the wrong people at the wrong time and focusing more on healing than damage.

    • @D-Doc-C
      @D-Doc-C ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I'd love to know the rank he is.

    • @deweydot
      @deweydot ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I hope you can get out of silver

    • @Cameron_7127
      @Cameron_7127 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What rank was he? I’m betting silver 3

    • @aaetriv
      @aaetriv ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@D-Doc-Clast i checked he was silver/gold, but he plays on console so that's probably like the equivalent of bronze 3 on pc LOL

    • @ccricers
      @ccricers ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Opposite of a DPS Moira, a healbot Zen

  • @branflakescereal4174
    @branflakescereal4174 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    5:40 bro is that one guy who constantly shouting and complaining because his team isn’t doing exactly what he wants

  • @austinmoe4865
    @austinmoe4865 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    "It's Mercy's job to pocket the tank!"
    Yeah, I completely agree with Flats. This has to be rage bait. There is no way an actual player of Overwatch 2 would unironically be further from the truth. It would be so hard to make that claim while keeping a straight face, but definitely possible.

    • @futuregrim
      @futuregrim ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I agree. What with all of the resources available on TH-cam from T500 players (not even just supports), I doubt he wouldn't know about Mercy's role if he was any good at the game. If he isn't rage baiting and actually believes this then for sure he is a new player that thinks he is better than he actually is. If that's the case then he should keep posting, it's nostalgic seeing people slowly figure out OW meta, like watching a baby learn that dirt isn't edible.

    • @Tsubaki272
      @Tsubaki272 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He’s never played ow1. Raccoon guy is dead serious about all his terrible ow2 takes

    • @futuregrim
      @futuregrim ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Tsubaki272 Yeah, his takes are very reminiscent of OW1 on release. Back then people would play Tank Tracer and floor Lucio. He's trying to figure out everything from scratch, which is unnecessary since better players already have, but good on him.

    • @LionWithAGun
      @LionWithAGun ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@futuregrim the man just needed to search mercy tips on youtube and would quickly learn how to utilize her. i guarantee all say to practice your flying and leaps, and to focus your dps being boosted/alive. if any say to pocket the tank i will be shocked if that person is above bronze. even silver players know dps need it more than the tank

    • @oceanlord3290
      @oceanlord3290 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Way late to this, that dude is dead serious, he has another account about Jason vorhees and he spouts the same bullshit thinking he’s right when he really doesn’t understand the subject, so in this case he thinks he’s right about ow2

  • @bellarue6738
    @bellarue6738 ปีที่แล้ว +136

    The more that I think about the change from ow1 to ow2, it was such a good choice to go to to 5v5 to put more work on the dps than just in the tanks. The best show of it is the matches on TH-cam of gm vs gold where each win for gm removes a player and how much they need to change comps and readjust

    • @pug9431
      @pug9431 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      5v5 feels sooooo much better than 6v6

    • @darkcat6530
      @darkcat6530 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      yeah it's more fun then shoot funni shield

    • @WindReiter10
      @WindReiter10 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Double shield metas made me quit playing overwatch for a long time and I'm a tank main, tank feels so much better in Overwatch 2 being a whole miniboss instead of a shield bot made out of paper mache where once you ran out of cooldowns you just blew up

    • @tearitup5864
      @tearitup5864 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I mean yeah, OW1 made DPS useless before role lock. GOATS meta dominated and even after roll lock came in, double shield was dominant that only some DPS saw play. Now with the switch to 5v5, like you said the responsibility is now more on DPS and more DPS are viable now

  • @ntech216
    @ntech216 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I feel like the guy saying mercy should pocket the tank was the same guy I played with bitching to our supports to pocket him. He was hog.. I said as hog you definitely don't need a pocket He left the game shortly after. We still won tho lmao

    • @rossjones8656
      @rossjones8656 ปีที่แล้ว

      So, your hog wanted a pocket and didn't want to breath?

  • @MikuSoda
    @MikuSoda ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I had a whiplash when he told the Mercy to pocket the tank, what?!

  • @claudiuspulcher2440
    @claudiuspulcher2440 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    idk if he's trolling for rage but "pocket the tank!" guy looks exactly like what I would expect someone who says that to look like

  • @ShoongShoongSHOONG
    @ShoongShoongSHOONG ปีที่แล้ว +22

    5:07 this guy is the type of guy on DPS to get 2 kills and gold deaths and STILL yell at the supports for not healing even though he told the supports to pocket the tank

    • @Relevart9169
      @Relevart9169 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The kinda genji to dash 1v5 behind 4 walls and well at his ana

  • @-NoNo.
    @-NoNo. ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I have to factory reset my brain after that dude says mercy should be with the tank

    • @C1umsyJester
      @C1umsyJester ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same here man ngl

    • @alexlink4623
      @alexlink4623 ปีที่แล้ว

      Eh low rank is kinda more ridiculous than you'd think. Dps cannot hit shots ever so its like not that bad if you actually d boost properly both bc your dps won't do much and you probably won't die. I think sometimes it would be the right idea bc of the volatility. Nowhere near at decent levels of play

  • @joseph4332
    @joseph4332 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    someone got on the mic yesterday night, and yelled “FUCK YOU TRACER” 😭😭 i was laughing so fucking hard

  • @misbahfarooq3439
    @misbahfarooq3439 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Hey Flats! You and most of the comments on your videos have been very helpful for me in learning what to do and what not to. Still got a long ways to go but gonna keep grinding and putting in the hours.

  • @BetaNurse68
    @BetaNurse68 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    For me I remember my own mistakes more since that’s what I’m in control of. As a new overwatch player coming from other competitive games I used to grind, I found it just as beneficial in OW to look at “what I did wrong” instead of “which of 4 players can I assign blame to?” Even my best games where I still lose I could find mistakes or adjustments I didn’t make in response to my teammates mistakes or watch my own replay to get a better understanding of how the match was actually lost. Not saying you won’t get a tank that charges 1v5 with 20 deaths per 5 minutes and that happens but you have to be able to accept you are in that rank and if you are truly better than that rank you will eventually move up. Being able to acknowledge your mistakes in these games is valuable to climbing.

  • @ramenstrait5506
    @ramenstrait5506 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    when Flats talked about sitting there and not talking because you would scream it does help because it made me focus more on the game then my teamates and helped me calm down so thank you Flats

  • @jayday545
    @jayday545 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Once I figured out as a support part of my job was surviving, I made huge gains. I learned to play angles much better and all my stats increased slightly but wins increased a lot.

  • @texdoc89
    @texdoc89 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    It's funny how things can change with the right mindset when you take ownership for YOUR mistakes and why your team lost lol. But also this is why If I find myself getting tilted I just mute myself because that shit won't help anyone and my team doesn't need to hear that shit. That is also why I started going back and watching my games and seeing a lot of times I'm getting tunnel vision and making mistakes and while I wasn't the reason we lost, I also didn't help the situation enough to bitch about it. But then again I guess it's why I have a constant level 4 endorsement 🤣🤣I just wanna be a good teammate and have fun while winning lol

  • @athos3340
    @athos3340 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I can confirm what flats said as a tank main 2cp was a nightmare especially when the team wasn't In voice chat. It's why I'm glad some of my friends played tank after a while and saw what I had to deal with. They had a huge change of difference in opinion on tank is easy mode

    • @Davinmk
      @Davinmk ปีที่แล้ว

      2 cp was always close up tho, brawling in 2cp probably was my fav thing in ow1

  • @ordinarylittlebastard3248
    @ordinarylittlebastard3248 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the Mii Creator theme everytime in the background.

  • @mangolian3773
    @mangolian3773 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The guy screaming at people is the reason why my mic is off 24/7 period

    • @vxughan
      @vxughan ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes I always just type also because people are very sexiest on OW (and comp games in general) and end up throwing when they hear I’m a woman anyways 🧍🏻‍♀️

    • @aegismalkav8057
      @aegismalkav8057 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@vxughan Only incels who doesnt get used to talk with women are like that, im always gonna play the best as i can regardless if my teammates are men, women or kids.

    • @vxughan
      @vxughan ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@aegismalkav8057 I completely agree, there is honestly no need because I’m just playing to have fun like everybody else.

    • @Cuupi
      @Cuupi ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@vxughan This is very true. I type to avoid people getting tilted listening to a girl's opinion. The only time I on my mic is when everyone's doing well and we are winning and I just had a 4 kill on the feed and they usually greet me nicely when I make a sound.. It's especially worse in Diamond when everyone's ego is so dang high. A small callout and you will be the sole reason why they lose.

    • @lulu_TheWitchBoy
      @lulu_TheWitchBoy ปีที่แล้ว

      No I actually had someone yelled at me, like he was mad for no reason. Screaming at me to get off Brig, like bitch all we had was a bad beginning. We ended up winning lol.

  • @agranite9776
    @agranite9776 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I so agree with Flats on 2CP. I hated two cp as Zen, Ana, Baptise support, and Zarya, Winston tank. 2CP requires so much coordination to get through within a small time frame window and hope your team is on voice comm to make sure they are on the same page in route pathing and rotation.

    • @TheFalu
      @TheFalu ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah 2cp sucked but at least it was fair though- you got to switch sides and take the advantages/disadvantages the other team had the previous round. In push, teams can control the obj for like almost twice as long as the other team and still lose. I just don't see how push is better than 2cp

  • @capybrianna
    @capybrianna ปีที่แล้ว +2

    homeboy sounded like gilbert gottfried when he said "i had to tell the mercy to pocket the tank"

  • @heebydeeby1687
    @heebydeeby1687 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “i had to tell the mercy to pocket the tank” i think raccoon guy is playing goats in 2022

  • @GodLambIt
    @GodLambIt ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Me: Yeah I would rather play 2CP over push…
    FLATS: The support players that want 2CP back are Mercy players.
    Me:😅

  • @Lightning-Dove
    @Lightning-Dove ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I never played tank in OW1 and i didn't know 2 cp was that bad. What sucks is that the maps were so pretty and if they never come back with 2 cp i hope they remake the maps to fit the game modes they do keep and improve on

  • @mrkisukes
    @mrkisukes ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Even if I were to give that one dude the benefit of the doubt, focusing on what you can do better is how you improve, not on what your team does wrong. I have no control over the team I queue with if I'm going solo rank, so I might as well just worry about improving myself cause that's something I can control.

  • @MansterBear
    @MansterBear ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Flats best point about “it’s your fault not your team” is that as many times as you get a horrible tank, or a throwing healer, or an afk, etc statistically it’s probably happening in your favor as much as it’s happening on your team, so it likely evens out.
    I was a bronze that almost always has most heals and most damage out of the healers, and I overall made smart plays and didn’t feed. I stuck with it enough and I’m at silver 3/4 in heals/damage now and I really don’t get to play a ton. I think I have 20 something dps wins and 30 support wins.
    So hopefully I can climb to top of silver or higher before the end of the season.

  • @jaguarjames2225
    @jaguarjames2225 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    It really annoys me when people say that they just can't climb because of teammates. In the two years I've been playing OW I've solo queued from silver to T500. You just have to keep playing and learning. Instead of blaming your teammates, see how you can improve. If you have 5 players on a team doing this, then you will have a higher chance of winning.

    • @Relisoc
      @Relisoc ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I mean there’s streaks of variance. Sometimes you’ll have a 20 game stretch where you do get fucked over by shit beyond your control way more than average. Just have to recognize that you also have stretches where the opposite happens and you get carried up a couple divisions. It all evens out

    • @french_toast223
      @french_toast223 ปีที่แล้ว

      You cant learn to heal as a dps

    • @jaguarjames2225
      @jaguarjames2225 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @French_Toast3 you don't need to learn how to heal as dps.

    • @cris5555
      @cris5555 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@french_toast223 But you CAN learn to make that more of a non-factor in your games, if you cancel out the enemy's supports focusing and killing them constantly then the lack of heal from your supports is not important. It is obviously an oversimplification what I'm doing, but the point stands, you can always be doing something better than what you are doing, if you truly are playing perfect then you will climb to top 500 pretty fast really.

    • @french_toast223
      @french_toast223 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cris5555 Hard to get into their backline as a bastion, thats the other dps's job. Had a game last night with a good fucking mercy and I clapped everyones booty cheeks. Amazing what you can do when you dont play with a kiriko or moira that does more damage than healing.

  • @ZonarohGaming
    @ZonarohGaming ปีที่แล้ว +6

    3:13 Symmetra Concept; Imagine if she was a support and instead of having 3 damage turrets she had 3 turrets that healed Allies that walked close enough and did reduced damage to enemies.

    • @SuperThest
      @SuperThest ปีที่แล้ว

      The healing rate on them would have to be somewhat low, like maybe 20-30/sec, because that would otherwise be a bit too strong on some maps

    • @lyzder7298
      @lyzder7298 ปีที่แล้ว

      They tried the healing turrets in an experimental and it didn't work at all. It forces your team to play around where you place the turrets, which means they can't reposition if necessary, specially in attacking payload maps unless you place them in the payload, which in turn makes them easier to target and destroy, leaving your team with less healing.
      This also makes impossible for her to choose healing targets, and being able to prioritize who to heal is necessary for a support to perform well

    • @joecon601
      @joecon601 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lyzder7298I’d imagine they would rework her turrets and give her a primary heal. Maybe the turrets could be on a 4 second cooldown so you could move them frequently and they could have a little more health. I don’t know what you could do for the primary heal, maybe make her beam be able to heal and do damage like Moira’s coal? There’s a bunch of possibilities to change sym into a support and she kinda needs it. It would also be great for supports to just have more options in general.

    • @Relevart9169
      @Relevart9169 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lyzder7298 that was an experimental made in like 5 mins, if they were actually gonna do it they would make it work better obviously. As a concept its great, and she was fun to play too, support needs more heroes anyway, dmg turrets are just bad above wood rank and they're a core part of her kit, they can't just give her an smg and a combat slide instead

    • @GoldenKirby
      @GoldenKirby 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well, you're half right

  • @thegingerone6734
    @thegingerone6734 ปีที่แล้ว

    "People don't remember the games where they played bad" vs my first game of tank I ever played where I was almost actively throwing being burning into my memory

  • @xgshwiainr
    @xgshwiainr ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2cp as a tank was like protecting ur team fighting a uphill battle during d-day

  • @reagansido5823
    @reagansido5823 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I can't imagine how horrible a game with Zed would be. He is a screamer if I've ever seen one.

  • @allstarwoo4
    @allstarwoo4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I always though it was just me that 2 CP expected so much of tanks. I swear 2 CP for tanks is like hey go and try to coordinate a push and if it fails it's your fault. I didn't know other people felt that way.

  • @eternalgaming9705
    @eternalgaming9705 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Hear me out: don't solo queue."
    Man, I do wish they didn't remove the Find Group option, a downgrade just like everything else

  • @vampirez921
    @vampirez921 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Recently I saw a Reaper who kept telling us to group up when we already were. Today when I played Mercy a teammate told me to heal them when I was already healing them.

    • @swordofkhaine8464
      @swordofkhaine8464 ปีที่แล้ว

      He was probably going to ult and needed a grouped attack to distract enemy.

  • @weevilbun6914
    @weevilbun6914 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I think that first tiktok was 100% right, but I definitely understand why it's upsetting, like there was a day where I had nonstop losses due to people backing out, so I just didn't play, I think I also sometimes think that since I did good damage I did good, but I realize it's not the case, also, as a moira main I always laugh when people say she's broken, cus I know as a fact she isn't.

    • @DissyIV
      @DissyIV ปีที่แล้ว

      Facts.

    • @aaronso7570
      @aaronso7570 ปีที่แล้ว

      She’s not broken, shes dogshit and no one likes having moiras on their team

    • @weevilbun6914
      @weevilbun6914 ปีที่แล้ว

      I... already know she's not good. I don't think you understood what I said

    • @aaronso7570
      @aaronso7570 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@weevilbun6914 Yep, i was just affirming your point

  • @milesupshur9614
    @milesupshur9614 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Symm wall doesn't make that much sense in a lot of ways, but I honestly really like it in her kit, it just works for me. What I'd like them to do is revert some of the TP changes so it's permanent again, but let her charge up a second one after she places it so she can place it down again and destroy the first one. That way she can set up reliable flank/escape routes for less mobile teammates, and also setup plays when needed.

    • @jennymartin8448
      @jennymartin8448 ปีที่แล้ว

      Being able to place 2 tps in a row would be straight broken right ?

    • @milesupshur9614
      @milesupshur9614 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jennymartin8448 Place 1 TP, wait for cooldown (10-12 sec) then place a second TP, instantly destroying the first. Doesn't seem that OP to me, but it couldn't hurt to test it out.

  • @101joebro
    @101joebro ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Everytime I die I try to rewatch what happened in my mind and think of ways I could have survived or at least taken one more

  • @Ollowayn
    @Ollowayn ปีที่แล้ว

    As a beginner - I´m unironically learning so much from these tiktoks from your channel because you correct them

  • @harshsynth1
    @harshsynth1 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    are youtube shorts ever going to dominate over tiktoks? i hope so

    • @TheGGod
      @TheGGod ปีที่แล้ว

      In youtube shorts people have a lower chance to be a idiot.
      Tiktok has all the stupid people

    • @gregortheoverlander4122
      @gregortheoverlander4122 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      TH-cam shorts have better content overall imo, but the system for searching through them is significantly worse imo. Until there is a dedicated shorts app with full functionality I think tiktok will reign.

    • @padarousou
      @padarousou ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I dont. Both are just junk food for brain

    • @keonkla
      @keonkla ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gregortheoverlander4122 "better content" Very debatable. You either get a random mish mash of stuff based on your normal youtube preferences Or you get weirdly bitter and angry shoots about people wallowing in bitterness on some fact of life. Not to mention the ridiculous gender war bait where a bunch of femcels and incels try to one up each other about "men/women bad".
      Shorts barely has any fun and its just bitter people bitching or trying to provoke a reaction.

    • @zendakk
      @zendakk ปีที่แล้ว

      @@keonkla Good points and Google LLC is no saint but at least YT is not spyware for a dictatorship.

  • @bloodfrostgaming9204
    @bloodfrostgaming9204 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That one guy was upset he had to make call outs in a team based game.

  • @thesilvanalyst6880
    @thesilvanalyst6880 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got to say, 2CP as a Rein Zarya duo was quite fun to play as half the games were just fistfight after fistfight.
    Though, then again, Rein Zarya was fun to play on any map.

  • @jasonlastname129
    @jasonlastname129 ปีที่แล้ว

    'I had to tell the mercy to pocket the tank."

  • @darthplagueis13
    @darthplagueis13 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    As someone who played a little bit of Ana in OW1 I will say one thing about 2 CP: It was much more enjoyable in terms of vantage points. Like, in the currently available gamemodes I don't actually get a lot of opportunity to play the high ground because either the angles suck (not much you can do if the fight is directly below you) or the way to get there is so long that you can't feasibly go there without abandoning your team or you literally can't go there because Ana has no vertical mobility.
    2CP had some map spots where you got perfect visibility which weren't a hassle to get to.
    By comparison,a good Ana spot in OW2 is just a random bit of cover next to the street which you peak around.

    • @kevingriffith6011
      @kevingriffith6011 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So what you're saying is "Give Ana a jetpack"

    • @vivelespatat2670
      @vivelespatat2670 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kevingriffith6011 the Phar-macy combo is over, the Anabulance meta will rise

    • @superstardoughball9822
      @superstardoughball9822 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vivelespatat2670 "Someone the WAH-Mbulance" combo

  • @rindrr
    @rindrr ปีที่แล้ว +3

    NO as a Mercy main I cannot…

  • @TableSalt_
    @TableSalt_ ปีที่แล้ว

    The guy that said that mercy should pocket the tank is a prime example of my teammatees having actual lives

  • @MinnueteCVP
    @MinnueteCVP ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:04 NGL that happened to me yesterday, where i lost SO MUCH GAMES because of teammates either straight up trolling or AFK that i deranked from p5 dps to g1, and then i decided to play with some random guys stacking that were also gold, and won 7 games in a row, ranked up to p3, low ranked on consoles is such a miserable experience for solo players.

  • @tatuvarvemaa5314
    @tatuvarvemaa5314 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    11:20
    Calling ”diff” is a general issue with the player base. Its shifting the blame into the least performing player with out considering the other players performances.

  • @tzeneth
    @tzeneth ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m weird as I’m a support player who played Ana/Bap and I liked 2CP. I can understand your perspective on 2CP and why you don’t like it. But I can understand why a lot of people don’t.
    I still despise Push though. Although that’s separate of my like if 2CP. Maybe it’s because I played a lot of groups but 2CP was interesting because of some of the strats, both cheese and non-cheese we used as Gold/Plats/Early Diamonds

  • @Interchange_Enjoyer
    @Interchange_Enjoyer ปีที่แล้ว

    4:45 man couldn't even make eye contact with his camera

  • @OrigamiAhsoka
    @OrigamiAhsoka ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Why are the tiktoks with not awful takes the ones with the worst comments, truly I wish we could get a good take with good comments 😔

  • @kokohaha3604
    @kokohaha3604 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I went to the comments of the first Tiktok. Worst mistake of my life, I genuinely went insane reading all the peoples cope as to why they can’t rank up

  • @Mr-atom55
    @Mr-atom55 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The nightmare of 2cp below diamond. The only time you would have a actually team fight would be overtime

  • @SystemAbominant
    @SystemAbominant ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bruh where has that kid been 😂 I guess he’s never heard of Mercy/Sojourn pocket😂

    • @potatomush7669
      @potatomush7669 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not to high elo I’ll tell you that

    • @thebeesknees6896
      @thebeesknees6896 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@potatomush7669tbh i dont think this guy has seen the sliver horizon, he screams bronze skill ceiling.

  • @Bereli2
    @Bereli2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Flats will probably roast TH-cam shorts in the next video 😂

  • @callumb3800
    @callumb3800 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    reflecting on the poor games you had is important to grow as a player and can really help your overall skill level if you learn from it and adapt. you may have yhe odd few games where your teamate may be bad it happens but if you lose consistantly your adding to the problem and its not your teamates its you

  • @Villadgent
    @Villadgent ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I get mad when I lose games but never my team just the fact we all lost.

  • @pedrommpmoreno7971
    @pedrommpmoreno7971 ปีที่แล้ว

    The guy that says to pocket the tank has mercy thinks he s playing medic in tf2

  • @Belarhos
    @Belarhos ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Flats' take on 2CP was exactly what my last 2cp game felt like, second point anubis (we were on attack) there was literally 15 seconds left, my team mates were falling like domnios, so i said "fuck it" and charged into the point (i was rein, and keep in mind i charged through the main path under the choke) and then i had to survive one of their supports and one of their dps while being completely alone, i managed to kill both and just barley live long enough for my team mates to actually join, got just enough healing from my support to be able to put my shield down, hit a 2 man fire strike , got ult and slammed it , if i made even a SINGLE mistake, then taking that second point would've been impossible.

    • @TheFalu
      @TheFalu ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yes, but even with its problems, 2cp was still "fair" in a way. You still got to switch sides and take the advantages/disadvantages that the other team had on the previous round. Push is just unfair as a game mode.
      There should be no mode where a team can control the obj longer than the other team and still lose by a large margin

    • @roybobxiv8996
      @roybobxiv8996 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ah 2cp the only mode that required teamwork

    • @TheFalu
      @TheFalu ปีที่แล้ว

      @@roybobxiv8996 huh? no, 2cp sucked. At least its competively fair though is what I was trying to say

  • @ShadowZeroFlame
    @ShadowZeroFlame ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What if... we just move Symm into Tank & make her the true "I'm building walls" type of tank. Bring back her moving shield, make Turrets target allies & give THEM shields + shield regen, let her put Orisa barrier, lol (Or Ramatra's would be more fitting). Just take her "Controller of Hard Light" to the extreme. Perhaps you wouldn't even need to touch her Ult.

    • @nopeboat6436
      @nopeboat6436 ปีที่แล้ว

      A shield Symm as a tank seems fun but she'd be functionally too similar to Zarya weapon wise, so they'd probably rework her greatly or just use a different hero to move to Tank role

    • @ShadowZeroFlame
      @ShadowZeroFlame ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nopeboat6436 well we had different type of attack for her primary, which was *THE SUCC*, they could bring it back, give it a slower ramp up & lower max damage for balance. Give it a 10-12m range & 20-30 degree aim (so probably like Moira's).
      If no - there's nothing wrong in leaving it a beam as is. Zen, Kiriko, Ana (unscoped) basically have the same projectile for their primary attack. And unlike Zarya, Symm would be able to ramp up her damage independently.

  • @Assassin-mn6vi
    @Assassin-mn6vi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a game where I remember that I was doing bad, I remember it because I knew I was doing bad and I was so tilted that I gave up, switched widow and muted everyone. We won 😂

  • @astronette500
    @astronette500 ปีที่แล้ว

    i honestly love that flats redicovers what culloquialisms are everytime he wanders on to tiktok

  • @loganchilders3063
    @loganchilders3063 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wait a minute. My support main is mercy and I remember going into a comp game. I got support and I immediately went to go pocket the sojourn for obvious reasons, and I do remember a fucking junk rat screaming at me to go pocket the road hog. I think this is the guy. BTW, he had 17 deaths and 1500 damage and ya I know I’m low rank I’m new but I’m learning and rising quickly after that even when I was bronze 3 I’m now gold 4 in 2 weeks (I main Cassidy)

  • @padarousou
    @padarousou ปีที่แล้ว +11

    As a solo support player, Moira is definitely not bad. I would even go as far as to say she has the best carry potential of any solo support because you dont need to coordinate her abilities with your teammates abilities as much as other supports. Tesla actually has a series where he goes from bronze to gm in 3 days by solo carrying with Moira

    • @PaulSmith-nb6md
      @PaulSmith-nb6md ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is what I was thinking.

    • @amaterasublackflames8067
      @amaterasublackflames8067 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Moira or kiriko for solo carry. Recently been playing with a friend who's playstyle hes calling 'assassin kiriko' . Flank enemies, hard focus and kill supports, tp to team, rinse and repeat. The easiest games ive ever had . He carried us with impactful kills. His stats on scoreboard were low, but thanks to him we won those games.

  • @slippy9251
    @slippy9251 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the 3DS Mii Maker music in the video ❤

  • @Roanoak
    @Roanoak ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a support if you yell at my teammates… you get no heals. You get put into timeout , go sit in the corner.

  • @NJFraney
    @NJFraney ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The fact the kid in the blue shirt didn’t have the decency to shower or at least brush his hair (looks like he just woke up) before getting online and raging tells me everything.

  • @PareSM
    @PareSM ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Whoever created tiktok should be tried for crimes against humanity

  • @mateusschimith4841
    @mateusschimith4841 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Once i got in a game that my sup disconected, i was in trio with the other sup and the tank, and we mannage to win the game, big shoutout to the second dps who didn't give up and kept playing his best until the end

  • @BarkBarkImShark
    @BarkBarkImShark ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2CP was basically take the first point in 30 seconds then play team death match for 15 minutes

  • @mysterakacolby
    @mysterakacolby ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As someone who has mained Sym since launch of OW1, she is so close to being where I think she should be. Like I just want minor changes and QOL, BLIZZ please let me pick up/ recall my sentries. And also make her orbs do 120 dmg for .5 meters then decay to 90 so I can one tap tracers like in OW1... Also please blizz i beg you, why do i feel like my head as sym is the size of narnia.

    • @jennymartin8448
      @jennymartin8448 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As a sym lover I did some research and it seems sym is actually given a pretty generous head hitbox (along with Ashe and widowmaker weirdly enough)
      Here’s a link to hit boxes picture
      I.Imgur.com/Z3gJnqr.jpg

  • @shundoraud3908
    @shundoraud3908 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yea I thought the Supports' job was to always pocket the tank since the tank's supposed to absorb all the damage. After a few matches, I learned that my job was far more complicated than that and Mercy especially gets more value out of damage boosting DPS frequently than just being a heal bot. Damage always outruns support heals, so it's a great idea to get MORE damage

  • @roderickstevn
    @roderickstevn ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When someone screams at me especially when I have had a bad day I just throw the game. I look at it like the person screaming wanted to lose

  • @shadowolf2566
    @shadowolf2566 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Funny cause Ana also has a very direct healing, higher direct healing, frontline support kit with anti and sleep while mercy has a lower direct healing but amazing movement allowing her to jump from dps to tank to other healer to heal where it’s needed while Ana keeps the tank alive

  • @kitty39a34
    @kitty39a34 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a game very very recently where the tank absolutely went off on me because I was pocketing sojourn and healing the other support and not him . he got so mad that he actually quit we still won but barely

  • @michaelbrazier1086
    @michaelbrazier1086 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    as a support player i always did emjoy 2cp. but i never did think about it from tank view, that sounds awful.

  • @dangerbeans9639
    @dangerbeans9639 ปีที่แล้ว

    Telling a Mercy to “pocket a tank” hurt me.

  • @shade5367
    @shade5367 ปีที่แล้ว

    congrats on 100k

  • @cagxplays9602
    @cagxplays9602 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd be happy with a temple of anubis redesign into a push map.

  • @phoenixmcgrew2964
    @phoenixmcgrew2964 ปีที่แล้ว

    Story time! So this was just a one off occasion but because I don't have the time to play Overwatch(maybe 2 hours a week most) the negative experiences feel like they happen way more frequently. It was first game of the day in 2 weeks, support main, and just wanted to play a few rounds of QP. My dps were playing Pharah and I think Widow, but I was playing Bap so I couldn't heal Pharah. I decided to switch to Ana after I died but because I didn't even warm up, my aim was off so I switched to Zen after a few more deaths. Now at this point my Pharah starts flaming on me. "Their Kiriko and Mercy have more healing than you! I don't care if it's your first game!" So that really pissed me off and I went berserk as Zen. I ended the game with 19 kills, 7 deaths while my Pharah ended up with 6 kills, 7 deaths, A NEGATIVE k/d! I even got PoTG with a game saving Trans and 3k. But even after all that he still talked all that shit. Some players are just awful.

  • @LadyVineXIII
    @LadyVineXIII ปีที่แล้ว

    ZedTheUndead is the guy I ignore while muting and rapid smashing the Avoid As Teammate option. Seriously, the only time I pocket my tank is when I have a Rein popping off in their faces after a fat shatter.

  • @Hannah-gc4cy
    @Hannah-gc4cy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The ONLY time I pocket a tank is when I get the beloved crazy Reinhardt❤ I love the violence😂

  • @gibgood1898
    @gibgood1898 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’d agree but I’ve literally had a 15 game streak of someone always leaving

  • @boyvol6428
    @boyvol6428 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:00 - end of the clip.
    I think this guy came to OW from TF2 with this medic/heavy combo in mind.

  • @callitabreeze
    @callitabreeze ปีที่แล้ว

    POCKET THE TANK! I actually can't lmao

  • @taylorcoffey4115
    @taylorcoffey4115 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As someone who has been playing since launch I would rather have 2 cp than push maps any day. I also used to duo stack tank so that probably helped.

  • @notapplicable2616
    @notapplicable2616 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A few weeks ago I played some 2cp when it was in the arcade, and I went in thinking I kinda missed 2cp. I did not miss it.