TuneECU Tutorial for unlocking your Triumph ECU for more power
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.ค. 2022
- This is a follow up to an earlier video, where I go into a little more detail to try and cut down on some of the common questions.
If you have a fuel injected Triumph motorcycle, watch this.
You need an Android phone, the TuneECU app and a correct Bluetooth Adapter:
App and instructions:
www.tuneecu.net/
BT Adapter:(price has gone up since I last purchased one)
amzn.to/3biNSbX
Link to the TuneECU Box map database, to help locate what map you need for your bike, country and VIN range:
app.box.com/s/jhxtzesemvqfz1x...
Link to the modified maps I made for the 2021+ Speed Twin 1200. Map 31127 is for US, 31126 is for UK models:
drive.google.com/drive/folder...
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Great video, thank you! I really like all of your Speed Twin content. I followed this video and unrestricted my 23 Speed Twin. I was really suprised by how much more power it gave me - put some real teeth into my otherwise stock Speed Twin. Thanks!
Don't worry, the first video was excellent. I started out totally clueless but finished up having a basic understanding. This one adds more practical detail, though, which is great.
Thanks again Dave for taking the time to help me out.
Any time!
I'm so glad you put this information out there. I'm excited to try a new map for my 2016 Scrambler after swapping the stock pipes for EMPI flared VW pipes (3693). It has a K&N filter too but it's bone stock beyond that so I'm hoping for the best. Might try removing the snorkel too after getting the tune right and seeing if there are any maps for those types of incremental mods.
Thanks Dave for the tune you sent me for my Speed Twin 1200
Can't believe the difference. So much smoother in slow speed cornering/roundabouts.
As well as 100% acceleration when i need it......at 100% throttle.
I don't know if I'm imagining it, but gear changes seem smoother.
Thanks again for your help🏍👍
How can I reach Dave to get a tune as well? Thanks. 23 speed twin and I removed the slip on mufflers
Thank you Dave for spending some time to help me out. Appreciate!
Happy to help! Let me know how it feels. I only unrestricted sport mode, the others I left alone. If it needs some further tweaks, let me know.
Concise description of maps & their origins
Great video in explaining what you are doing. Thank you
Fantastic video. Finally someone who knows how this stuff works. Every day is a school day. Have learned a lot.
I try to help out where I can. Not all heroes wear capes. lol
Literally got this recommendation for no reason, I was looking at Tiger Tanks 😂 but I learned a lot. New sub.
Tiger tanks got you here? haha
Well, welcome aboard!
@@SquireSCA it sure did 😂. I do own 7 motorcycles, including 1 heavily moded T120 Bonneville, but I was searching for Tiger tanks vs KV-1, and this video was the result 😂😂.
U have addressed all the questions I had from ur first video. Fair play to you. I have a 2019 speed twin uk model with an x-pipe. Was just looking at the stock maps 30257. Funny it's not restricted all the way up until the throttle reached 90 and 100 percent, but yet the newer speed twins are restricted a lot. Will be mapping my twin soon. Thanks mate for your advice👍
Glad I could help!
I FINALLY loaded the tune you made for me! I only got it for a couple mile ride because it’s in between raining here. It definitely feels better up top thanks to richening it up some and adding a bit of timing (I only run 93 octane anyway so it can handle it). Unfortunately the throttle/power doesn’t seem much different because the Street Triple was already at is max throttle values all the way to redline so I didn’t get that big difference like a lot of bikes get. It is quicker to come up from the midrange though because it was dialed back on throttle opening down under around 7,000 rpm’s. It’s got the idle hanging really high for about 5 seconds and the throttle sensitivity feels very twitchy but that’s due to the parameters being reset. It’s gotta relearn itself. Thank you again very much for putting that base tune together for me!!
Oh, and mine only took about 2 minutes to reprogram?? I was expecting much longer like yours. Do you think anything was wrong with that? It said it was complete and it starts and runs fine. Just seemed very fast for a reprogram. Even my truck takes like 5 minutes to load a new tune.
Apparently through either one of the latest updates to TuneECU, or having the latest firmware in the OBD connector, you are the second person that has told me that the ECU flash process went from 18 minutes, down to 2-3 minutes. If this is on every bike, that is a MASSIVE improvement!
@@SquireSCA yeah I was shocked and happy. Kinda worried though. 😂
@@cfltitan I wouldn't worry. In the Windows days of TuneECU, the first flash took 15 minutes and then every flash after that was 2-3 min because it was just sending the changes, and not the whole map each time. Maybe that's what they finally figured out how to do on the Android version...
@@SquireSCA yeah I was worried at first but after starting it and taking it for a ride it was clear everything was ok.
I shot it at 4k by accident so its taking longer to process. But it will get to HD at some point!
Very helpful, currently working on my '18 Street Triple R! Thanks.
The 2018 Street R has a different cam and tune, so your success may vary. It was 2020 when they switched motors and dropped the RS motor into the R bike, and restricted it with software like you see in the video...
@@SquireSCA yup! Just used this video as a base. Added my own values to correspond with the ‘18 motor. Thanks!
@@JRob99 looking to do this to my street triple r 2017 did you find a good improvement and dare i ask what settings you used for the older models ?
Excellent introduction, many thanks
Happy to help!
Super helpful, I'm so glad YT recommended this video to me. Cheers, Dave!
BTW, any chance you have a Triumph Speedmaster 2021 (1200 HT motor) all countries stock unlocked map?
great video dude, nice and easy to follow! Good job!
Glad it helped!
@@SquireSCA Would it be possible to 'map' in pops and bangs on the overrun/ closed throttle ?
@@James-ze3vt What for? If you have a decat and open mufflers, just leave SAI enabled and it will do that on it's own. If you still have the CAT, then you don't want a lot of that, as it may clog up the CAT over time, with carbon...
@@SquireSCA ah ok m8, nice one, Cat delete is a pain in the arse in the uk as wont pass the MOT, i believe.... Oh and its just for fun cos i'm a middle aged big kid ! love the noise :) I just have a half system for exhauast no baffles! sounds good but would like some pops and bangs.........
@@James-ze3vt The pops and bangs are there, but your CAT is really muffling them.
Thank you sir this is a great help! I currently have a DNK map on the Bobber but the mods I am about to carry out for much more power will require me to get my head around this. I will give you a shout out on my channel when I publish the content about it. Have a great day!
Thanks for the video!! I was wondering which map would be used on a 2019 Street Scrambler that has a decat. Everything else is stock. I was looking through the map database but I could not figure out which one would be the closest. If you could please help me out I would greatly appreciate it! Keep up the great videos.
Very good video, good job explaining the entire process. Now I wonder if my 2015 Triumph Trophy SE is limited at all in sport mode 🤔
Does the 2015 have ride by wire?
I just checked and there are no ETV tables, so no ride by wire restrictions in place.
@@SquireSCA have speed triple rs 2019 1050 uk version can you tell me what I need correct map for more power. Thanks
@@viliusvaineikis357 I can take a look at the base map and see if there are any restrictions. What are the last 6 digits if the VIN, to make sure I get the right map?
@@SquireSCA 958739 uk version thanks mate
Nice info, subbed
Great video, thanks! I have 2 truimph's so Im ordering my ocb link right now. I just have one question. The most irritating issue on my rally pro is the slightly jerky pickup at very low speeds from a closed throttle. I assume this has a setting to prevent the ecu from shutting the fuel supply completely on a closed throttle? It also runs a little lean with my slip-on and it definately has a strict nanny at waiting for me at aroung 200kph!
It could be the "fuel cut", or it could be the ETV tables being too aggressive. What year and model and country is the bike? I can look up the map and see if there is anything in there that might stick out.
@@SquireSCA Thanks for the quick reply and offer to help. I just asked in case you have a quick and easy reply. I ordered the link and will have a look when I have everything. Im going to keep in touch with your posts and will give some feedback if/when I have something useful to add once I have everything and made an effort myself. Your post gave me the confidence to proceed and I really look forward to giving it a bash, so thanks for sharing your knowledge! At this point I dont want to waste any of your time, but thanks again and hope to be qble to give some feedback!
Dave - saw a few maps for 2019 speed twin and unclear which I use.
Running - xpipe, aftermarket slip on. debating snorkel / hf filter
Thank you
Nice video, great explaining. Im from sweden and I have a speed twin 2020. I downloaded the 30257 map to unlock the ETV. But when I open the map in TuneECU none of the 3 different ETVs are restricted at full throttle. Does that mean its unrestricted at stock and I dont have to remap it?
Ill be taking it to a dyno dealership this spring for a custom tune but thought i could unlock it until then for some giggles while waiting
The Euro4 version isn't restricted the way the new one is.
Hi Dave I changed my Trident 660 air filter for a K&N one and wanted to ask you if you recommend to make any changes to the map tables. I am thinking that for just the air filter upgrade it wouldn't make sense to make any changes and there is no limit to power in the existing Trident 660 tables. Thanks in advance for your help and best regards. Great videos that are great help
Air filter won't make any difference, stock map is fine. 🙂
Hi Dave, I hope you are doing great. Thank you these great videos. I wanna ask you about something. When I check speed triples f1 f2 f3 and l1 l2 l3 tables are identical. But speed twin 1200 f1-f2 an l1-l2 tables are different. Do you know why? And one more question:)) when I change AFR tables, do I also add fuel on f tables. Regards. Hoping to hear from you
That's just how they tuned that motor. Maybe one cylinder gets hotter than the other, not sure, but the tables being slightly different is normal.
thanks for a very useful video, i have a question you might have an idea. I have a street twin 2019 and currently using the map 30240. I see in the map for F1 and F2, is it normal that they have different number on map for F1/F2?
Yes, it's normal. The 2022 Speed Twin is the same way.
Great stuff 👍 I am looking to derestrict my 2022 Street Triple 765 RS so I am learning about the OBDLink and how to use it, then I stumbled across your video. However, I was unable to access the box link that you provided in the description with all the vin files. Any suggestion? Do I need to purchase the OBDLink first to be able to reach them? Thanks from Sweden ✌️
The box file is gone, all maps can be downloaded via the TuneECU app itself.
I have a 2023 Tiger 850 Sport. If you want to laugh, I highly recommend loading up the Tiger 850 Sport map and looking at ETV 2 (highest of the only 2 modes). Now load up A Tiger 900 and look at ETV 3. The 850 Sport at 100% throttle is mapped to 100 from 0-3500 RPM then it drops off a cliff to 71.3 and even down to 59.1, hovering between those till redline. They marketed this bike as having good low end torque, easier to ride, etc etc...I'm just laughing at this table. They tuned it to look like a half wet noodle. Comparing even down to 12.3% throttle the 900 has higher numbers throughout. Anyways, I am going to be adjusting my 850 sports table to be like the 900 and then give it the beans at the end. Much cheaper then going to a tuner! Thanks for the video.
It doesn't surprise me. It makes sense from a manufacturing perspective. You invest R&D, tooling and manufacturing costs into one motor, and then in software you create different power profiles for different applications/bikes...
I did a full exhaust and xpipe on my 2022 street twin. I think I saw you turned off the O2 sensors. What does that do to the bike? Pros and cons?
Leave O2 on unless you plan to put it on the dyno and do a proper tune. If you do a dyno tune, disable them in software, and then physically unplug them...
If you've done the xpipe (decat) on a 2020 speed twin do you need to remove the o2 sensors? Stock end pipes currently
I would leave them on, unless you decide to tune it, and then get rid of them. What I found on mine, is that it idled kinda funny when I disabled them... So I plugged TuneECU in while the bike was running, and watched the short term fuel trims that the O2 sensors were providing... It would bounce around from +7 to +13 on each cylinder, meaning that the bike was ADDING fuel to the idle area, not taking away...
While the bike's ability to "adjust" is narrow and limited in scope, it does work both ways... So if the bike is a little lean there, it can richen it slightly, and that will help you.
Hi Dave thank you for such an informative video on Tune ECU. I have a modified map on my highly modified T100 2011 which has a slight flat spot just above idle everthing else is fine on the map how would you recommend I attempt to find a solution? using Throttle position slight increase fuel % or decreasing if required at that reva range affected? I appreciate any advise cheers Greg
Ride the bike, and find the flat spot RPM and throttle position... Go into the fuel trim tables, and add 5% fuel in that area, and see if the flat spot gets better or worse. If better, add a little more and retest until it gets a flat spot again and then back it up to where it felt best.
THank you for the info and will try as soon as weather improves peeing down rain this week arrrrrr thank you again
@@SquireSCA
I've got a 2008 street triple with the arrow 3-1 single exit. I've tried to look through the maps but there don't seem to be any descriptions, are there any for this setup?
For a bike from that era, there is a map called the TOR or Arrow map. TOR is Triumph Off Road. They put out a map for that pipe, as they used to sell it as a Triumph accessory.
Look on this page and see if you can locate your bike, and find a map that says TORS or Arrow Full in the title or description:
tuneecu.net/ObsoleteTune_List.html
Now what I don't know, is if you can push that tune with the Android version, or if you have to get your hands on the old Windows version and a wired OBD instead of Bluetooth. Sorry, wish I had more details, but its been 15 years since I tinkered with one of those old 675's...
This is great, but for what map changes do you need to disable and remove the O2 sensors?
I have a new PLX wideband AFR gauge kit laying around. Could that be installed in one of the O2 sensor holes to monitor the fuel ratio? Especially after installing the TEC camshaft on my 2016 Street Twin one day.
I think your 2016 Street Twin is the same motor and tune as my 2017 Street Cup. If so, when you install the CAM, do the X-pipe, air filter and mufflers and I will send you a full custom dyno tune map for that setup. Just push it to the ECU and go.
@@SquireSCA Thanks :-) Yes it's the same motor. I have done the X-pipe and a DNA air filter. Not sure about the mufflers, they sound great now. First I have to replace the A2 licence restricted power tune that the previous owner had the dealer install. But that should go smooth.
@@mcplutt Have the dealer get your bike off the A2 tune, and I can email you the map for your bike that you can install once you get the CAM installed.
@@SquireSCA Sorry, no dealers in my part of Norway. Closest is 600 miles away :-) But stock maps are available, I have them right here. Map # 30000 as far as I can tell. Map # 30120 is the A2 map. Will check that. Just have to try again to register/pay my licence of the tuneECU when I get my new tablet tomorrow.
@@SquireSCA Reprogramming wasn't so scary after all :-) No need for dealer assistance anymore. th-cam.com/video/iTpUGIaWh74/w-d-xo.html
SquireSCA you mentioned you have tuned your speed triple RS? I have the 2022 Speed Triple 1200RS and would love to tune and derestrict. Will this work for my bike? I really appreciate your videos. Big help.
The new Speed Triple RS isn't restricted the way this bike is. I already looked at your base map and the throttle restrictions are not there, so you are good to go. Now, depending on your mods, you might still benefit from a tune, but you will want to toss it on the dyno to see what it is doing, to determine what, if anything it might need from a tune.
@@SquireSCA Thank you for checking. The bikes hit s a hard stop at max rpms (on Dyno), and there is a speed limiter (149mph?). Also feels like the over-rev past 7K rpms is slowed like a lack of fully open throttle bodies. If you find anything else, I appreciate it.
@@williamonthewestside Just pulled up the 2022 Speed RS 1200 map, and at least for the US and Canada, it gives you 100% throttle in Road and Sport, until 11,000rpm and then it backs down to 90.4%, but you are near redline anyway, so it's not really restricted. There is a top speed limiter, but you need TuneECU and have to pay extra to get rid of that... Honestly, naked bikes aren't much fun over 140mph anyway...
Excellent video!!! I’m trying to decide if I want to try tuning my 2018 Street Triple R 765 myself or habe the ecu flashed by DNK. I saw you other video on them and that’s why I’m questioning if I just want to do it myself and save the money. I’ve tuned trucks before so I’m kinda familiar with it all. My problem Is not only do I want to adjust throttle position but because I’ve got a slip on and an aftermarket air cleaner (sprint P08) I need to mess with the fuel tables to fatten it up some because I’m sure it’s very lean now.
The 2018 is Euro4, so it won't be as lean as the Euro5 models. You can tune it. Start with the ETV tables. Or if you want, I can build a map to get you started. Let me know the country and last 6 digits of the VIN so I can pull the right base map and see what's going on in that map.
@@SquireSCA I’d greatly appreciate the help! I just ordered a used lenovo android tablet and the OBD2 blutooth device that you recommended. I’m an Apple guy so my phone or iPad won’t work. Lol My bike is a U.S. market (I live in Pennsylvania so unfortunately my riding season is over until spring 😔) 2018 Street Triple R 765. The last six of my vin is: 855129. Once I get the tablet I’m going to buy TuneEcu for it. It kinda sucks because I already spent the $100+ for DealerTool last year for pulling codes, resetting maintenance reminders and balancing my throttle bodies. The one big benefit I like about DealerTool though is that I can cycle my ABS pump to flush the fluid out. Thank you again very much for your help.
@@cfltitan TuneECU will do the ABS pump and lots of other stuff as well... Let me pull your base map and poke around and see what I find...
@@cfltitan Here is a map for your setup. Some extra fuel for the slipon and air filter, but O2 and SAI are on. Raised rev limiter, cooling fan will come on earlier, ignition timing optimized, Sport Mode is much more direct and aggressive, AFR targets reset to 13.2
drive.google.com/file/d/12gDfwg0XOmbt0XBuSxlKL9muAny_64oo/view?usp=share_link
@@SquireSCA That’s weird. I know when I got my DealerTool there was something that it did that TuneEcu couldn’t. Maybe it was Syncing the throttle bodies?? Or maybe they added the ABS function since then? Either way I went that route because I don’t have any android devices and at the time I was just looking for something more maintenance related so DealerTool fit the bill and worked with my laptop. I really appreciate the help though. I know even being euro 4 it’s probably still on the lean side with a pipe and the high flow air filter. Plus I know they still put restrictions in them (especially in the R model to keep it under the RS).
Thanks for the video 👍I got a 22 striple r all stock. Will it hurt the bike if i changed ecv3 to 100% the last 2 columns all the way up? Just like what you did in the video?
Will not hurt it at all. Its the same motor as the RS, same internals, same tune. The only difference is the ride by wire table. Your "sport" mode is more like the "Road" mode on the RS. All you would be doing is making your sport mode match the RS. If you want, you can open up the ETV table for the RS, copy it, and then open up the R map and paste it in.
If you tell me what your base map is, I can do it for you and send you the link.
I just need to know what country you are in, and what mods you have done. Will take me 5 min.
Here, try this. Made Sport mode unrestricted but also more aggressive and linear than the RS model. Should feel nice and spicy in Sport mode now. Also added a little fuel to the lean areas, lowered AFR targets to 13.2 and then told it to turn the cooling fan on a little sooner...
drive.google.com/file/d/1YeoHdJU63pkqVMonKbg22jWhpMTjPuK3/view?usp=drive_link
When you ride it in Sport mode, it might feel too aggressive at first, but that's because your muscle memory has learned that "this much twist gives me this much power"... It's going to give you more power per bit twisted... It's not changing the tune or what the motor us capable of making, it is taking what was already there, and changing how it is delivered... Before, you might twist to 45% and it would only give you 29%... Now, if will give you whatever you twist it to.
Start with that and if we need to tweak it from there we can. Install that, reset adaptives, let it warm up for a few min and then go rip on it and see how it feels and report back?
@SquireSCA i believe my base map is 31039 . I'm in United States I don't have any mods on my bike. Exhaust and air is all stock. I have downloaded the map you sent me. Thank you so much. I will upload that map. Didn't know you can just copy and paste the RS version into the r.👍 Thank you for all the information 😊 extremely helpful
Hello! Came across your channel and videos while researching DNK. I have a 2013 bonnie with airbox removal and predator exhausts. I'm not sure if the previous owner did a tune for that. I also recently removed the SAI. Is there any way I can tell if it is still running on stock tune or if it was tuned?
If your 2013 bike uses the older Windows based version of TuneECU, and I think it does, then you should be able to read the map out of the ECU and compare it to a stock map.
@@SquireSCA since DNK is kinda pricey, I was looking at TTP tune 11. Do you have any insight on this? Really appreciate the reply
@@alienonabike Never heard of them, I will see what I can find. The thing to keep in mind, is do they share information on what their map does? Do they provide a dyno chart? Are they forthcoming with information, or is it vague and sounds like it was written by a marketing person? DNK isn't very transparent with how they make their maps. When people call her on it in forums, and they usually do, she posts a lengthy diatribe and leaves the forum... Real tuners that do quality work, don't act like that. They understand that people want to know what they are buying, and they will explain it to you, and give you something like a dyno chart to quantify their product and its results.
If they aren't willing to do that, there is a reason.
@@SquireSCA they are known as Triumph Twin Power. They have tunes designed for various mods installed and have dyno charts on their website itself. Thanks again!
British Customs says that with a cat-delete / X-pipe that you Must re-tune the bike. I've seen others say that you can just let it re-map itself with a 15 minute idle from cold-start and this will give you 70-80% of gains/keep protective factors for reliability. Do you think I can get away with a simple 15 minute idle to re-map the bike? Thanks.
There is no remap itself. Never has been, never will be. People who don't know how the bike works, keep repeating that myth and telling other people about it and it spreads like wildfire and it has NEVER been true. lol
The bike has narrowband sensors with really limited range, and how would a bike at idle, remap itself at 85% throttle and 6,750rpm? haha
It is crazy to me that people still quote that nonsense, no offense. Anyone that tells you that the bike will just remap itself for a full exhaust, doesn't know anything about these bikes. Don't listen to them, don't let them work on your bike, etc... If its a dealer telling you that, find another dealer. Seriously.
Anyway, if you did all those mods, yes, you will need a new map. What year, model, country and VIN range is your bike?
Appreciate the videos buddy, thank you... A few questions if you dont mind...
If I want to achieve as you did in this video, and remove the throttle restrictions, rather than manually change the parameters, can I simply use your map called '2022 Speed Twin unrestricted stock map all countries.hex'
Do you have a video showing how to upload new map?
Did you remove fuse to the headlight, as per TuneECU instructions?
Did you hook up a battery charger whilst doing this, as per TuneECU instructions?
Thanks again.
Yes, you can just use that map if you are outside of North America. I didn't unplug my headlight because I have an LED headlight that draws less power, but I did put a battery tender on it while doing the procedure.
Download the map to your device and open it in TuneECU. Connect to the bike. Swipe 2 screens to the right from the fuel tables, and click on ECU and then Reprogram and it will walk you through it. Takes about 18 minutes.
@@SquireSCA Great.. This will be happening this weekend, I will report back, thank you 🙂
@@SquireSCA Dave, can you do me a favour and have a listen to my bike please, and confirm if yours does the same. After turning the bike on (but not start it) I can hear a noise like air leaking from a pipe, and its constant.. Ive never had this on any other bike before, maybe for this one its normal? I only noticed it as I was about to do the TuneECU. It did have to have a new fuel pump fitted under warranty a few weeks ago. Hes a video, see what you think?.. th-cam.com/video/1wfC8oNwp74/w-d-xo.html
Hey Dave, thanks a ton for these videos! I have a '16 T120 with TEC cam, x-pipe, air filter, mufflers, and a DNK tune I bought years ago, which in all honesty works pretty good (and definitely better than the stock map), but I ended up stacking a booster plug on top of it to get the crisper 'sport mode' throttle response I was after. Now I feel I have an understanding to poke around and see what I paid for lol. A question comes to mind-- if I ever wanted to take my bike to a Dyno tuner, does this mean a (competent) tuner shouldn't need to install a power commander to make changes? Or is that device still necessary?
The Booster Plug is snake oil. I don't know why anyone buys those things. All it does it trick the MAP sensor into thinking the bike is at lower elevation, so it adds more fuel everywhere. it does nothing for the throttle. I would remove the Booster Plug, and go into TuneECU and adjust your Sport mode throttle settings and then tune the bike...
@@SquireSCA I bought a booster plug in the early days of my T120 hoping it would alleviate its notoriously snatchy throttle off idle (it didn't). Back then I might have agreed with you. Fast forward a couple years, a TEC cam, and a DNK tune later-- I was debating going to a dyno tuner, but one day I decided to first try out that old booster plug I had laying around for shits and giggles. I rigged it up and spent an hour testing it out on the same stretch of road getting on and off throttle in all gears across the rev range, pulling over and bypassing it, doing the same run, replugging it, repeat. Respectfully, the throttle response now changes significantly when it is plugged in, and is much more FUN! Almost like a Sport mode, which doesn't come on the T120. No exhaust popping, no gasoline smell, and always between 45-55 mpg. My theory: the DNK tune was maybe not intended for the cam, and as such was too lean. Adding "more fuel everywhere" fixed that.
I'll pop into TuneECU one of these days. I do love to tinker.
@@Automagine Its just dumping more fuel in there, so if the bike is lean, the bike will feel better.
The problem with the Booster Plug is that it has no way to just target lean areas. It dumps fuel everywhere, which will help lean spots, but areas that are fueled fine or even rich, will get richer.
@@SquireSCA Yes, exactly lol, and this is why you may recall I came here with a question about taking the bike to a dyno tuner. Power commander still necessary yea/nah?
@@Automagine It really depends on what the tuner is comfortable using. TuneECU is the cheaper way for sure, but some tuners want to use The Dynojet Tuning-Link software in conjunction with a Power Commander... I would call around to different shops and see what options they are willing to work with..
The 900 GT Pro has four modes (Rain, Road, Sport and Off Road). How would I identify the off-road mode?
I don't know, because Off Road Mode is using one of the other modes. There are only three throttle modes in the bike. Off Road uses one of them, but different ABS and Traction settings...
I would leave Rain and Road alone and just modify Sport.
Hi there, i’m very new in this topic, i’ve just buyed a triumph trident 660 and i really want to take the most advantage of the bike, but i dont want to mess up my bike, do you recomend any map already made for mi bike or any way to flash my ecu without blowing it up? Something like plug & play? Thanks a lot!
There is nothing plug and play that will do anything meaningful. Anything you will likely want to do is flash the ECU. it's not hard, but you need to know a bit about what you are doing so that you don't mess anything up.
@@SquireSCA iwas thinking in buying the dnk ecu flash but actually i’ve met your channel by the review you made out of them so im not so sure about buying their map. Any recomendation on somebody doing maps for triumph? Thanks for answering!
Great video, thank you. Triumph just remapped the 1200 RS/RR. Does anyone know if we can get the "old" maps back?
Not that I know of. TuneECU usually keeps the most up to date revision on file in their database. So if your map was modified and the dealer updated it, then you will likely need to take the new map, re-modify that and then push it to the bike.
@@SquireSCA Thank you. Problem seems to be maps can't be downloaded from the bike if it's a modern Triumph. I'll find a solution to get a good map.
Thanks!
Thank YOU!
Nice video! Was wondering if there’s anyway you would be able to send a .hex file to me saved from your tune ecu app? I have a 04 triumph Daytona 600 with an exhaust. An trying to tune it an can’t find a hex file to download to modify via the windows version which I went threw a bunch of loop holes to find since it isn’t supported
Alas, I have literally nothing for that bike, and no access to anything. I don't know that I have actually ever seen a Daytona 600 in the flesh, let alone had it near a dyne to make a map.
Curious, will this work with the new Tiger 1200's for solving the lean low rpm fueling and snatchy on off throttle issues?
It can. I don't have access to one of those bikes to mess around with it, but if you do, then you could play around with the throttle maps, fuel trims, etc... If its a case of the on/off issues being caused by a fuel cut eliminator, that might be tricky because there isn't a way to directly disable that in TuneECU.
@@SquireSCA i dont have access to one atm, but have been considering buying one.
my only dislikes are the snatchy throttle and the low speed tendency to stall.
local dealer claims they cannot alter the mapping in any way to correct it "because euro 5" and will have to await a reflash update from Triumph.
So do the maps come pre-modified when it comes to fueling or timing? Or are they stock maps that no one has touched before?
It depends on where you get the maps from. If they are the maps that you download from the TuneECU server, those are stock Triumph maps, that you need to go in and modify.
@@SquireSCA okay perfect thats what i wanted to hear, thanks man this video was incredibly helpful
Great video man ! My bike was mapped (previous owner) is there a way to download or load the current map?
The bluetooth version of TuneECU does not have the ability to pull a map out of the bike and save it.
@@SquireSCAyou sent me a tune a day or so ago for my R3 Limited Edition Black. Would you be willing to to send the linked data to my email address? I cannot find it in this string.😢
What is your recommendation for Speed triple 1200 Rs? where can i get the software?
I didn't see any restrictions in there that I would consider changing, but I can take another look. On the big power bikes, a little restrictions are ok, as they make the bike more ridable without really slowing it down... On bikes like the Speed Twin that just aren't that powerful, I want all the power I can get.
I have the 82hp version of the street triple 675 sold here in india instead of the european 105, arrow exhaust is already installed with the catalytic hos much to tune it back to 105 at a garage
What year is it? If its an older 675, then the reduced power is likely the result of a different cam profile, and not something that you can "tune out" to get full power. It's the newer bikes that have "Ride by wire" throttles, where they hold the power back in software, and that you can unlock with a tune.
@@SquireSCA thanks for the reply, it's a 2014
@@SquireSCA actually the Indian version was just detuned and Triumph India is asking 250 dollars or 20000 Indian rupees, so my cheap as thought I could do it for less
What is the VIN range? I can open the file and take a look. And the specific model?
Hi Dave, I see that you have 4 maps for the 2022 US Speed Twin, which I also have. (im in the US) Which one should I use, the bike is stock. Thanks, great vid!
Start with this one:
drive.google.com/file/d/1MJDS0kUYdVYYb2zFSzrjoh6K3B_o6LQR/view?usp=share_link
If you ever do the airbox mod, filter, X-pipe and stuff, let me know, I have a really good custom dyno map for that setup. If you are in the US, I assume that you at least removed your muffler baffles?
@@SquireSCA I’ve removed nothing! Are the muffler baffles easy enough to do?
@@TheSunderlands1 Yeah dude. Look into the outlet end of your mufflers, along the top, about 1 inch in. See that small set screw with a tiny drop of weld on it? Use a Dremel type tool to cut that weld, and then use the proper size Torx bit to remove the screw, one on each muffler. Then spray some WD40 in between the muffler outlet and that baffle, grab some pliers and wiggle the baffles out. If you can't grip it well enough, then pop off the mufflers, insert a broom handle from the other end, and tap them out the exit ends.
I got mine out with pliers, took 6 minutes. You won't believe how much better the bike sounds. YOU ARE WELCOME. 🙂
Hey quick question I have a 2009 street triple R and I’m looking for a tune for competition werkes exhaust can you point me in the right direction?
Hit up DNK Tuneworks and see what they might have? I don't have anything going back that farm unfortunately...
I see you have the trident 660 with snappier throttle and fuel map. Do you have an explanation anywhere (i may have missed it) that tells me what has changed in the file.
Do you know of anyone who has installed this one and has a video of it on the Trident 660?
I would have to go back and check, but my typical base file for a largely stock bike is a tweak to the ignition tables if needed, a remapping of the Road or Sport mode for a much more aggressive and linear throttle response, removal of the top end throttle restrictions, adding a bit of fuel to the typical lean areas, and changing the AFR targets to 13.20
Great video, thanks for posting! I have a Bobber TFC and want to do a x-pipe decat. Since there are not many TFC's out there I don't imagine there would be many custom maps available. Can you point me to some tutorials of what I should be looking to change? Thanks.
What year and country and VIN range? There should not be any tuning or performance differences between the Bobby and TFC, the differences are largely cosmetic, but I can double check that when I open up the maps...
@@SquireSCA It's a 2020, USA, AB2798. There are a few engine lightening internal differences between the standard Bobber and the TFC from the factory. The TFC also has a Sport mode, which the standard Bobbers do not have. I also see in Box that there are maps for the Bobber TFC, so I assume there are some differences.
@@SquireSCA It is a 2020 USA Bobber TFC. There are some engine lightening differences between the standard and TFC Bobber. There is also a sport mode which the standard Bobbers do not have. I see there are only 3 maps for the Bobber TFC on the Box website, so I assume there are differences between the standard and TFC models.
To clarify, I found the map. I'm looking for pointers on how to modify the map to add a x-pipe decat. Thanks.
@@acovideo I would add 10% fuel in the 0 throttle column up to 1200rpm, as well as up to 5000rpm in all the columns from 1 to 10% throttle... And then start tapering it off... If you want, I can do it for you in the morning and look for other tweaks, and then send you the link...
I have a standard bobber (going to fit some drag pipes soon) but I want to add 5% fuel because the bike runs very lean causing a snatchy throttle. Any idea on how to do this? I see there is a link to a Google drive with modified maps in it, I see one for a Bobber called "unrestricted extra fuel" any idea what that file is? Are the files you can download from Tune ECU "stock factory" files.
All my files start as OEM base maps from Triumph. If you tell me the year, model, country and last 6 digits of the VIN, I can put together a map in the morning...
And the bikes will always be a bit snatchy for two reasons... They are torquey 1200cc twins, and there is a fuel cut off hard coded into the ECU.
You can smooth some of it out with fuel or ride by wire table changes, but a lot of it is you learning to adapt and ride around it.
I say this from experience. One of my bikes is making just shy of 200hp at the wheel, and around 110ft/lbs of tq. I learn to ride with a smooth throttle hand.
We will see if we can improve it, but there will always be some snatch in the throttle on these bikes...
@@SquireSCA you got an email I can send all the details to?
Very excited to try your map!! I assume the 8 Dec. 22 will be the latest one I'm to download? I have a stock 22/23 Speed Twin 1200 in Southern Africa. Am I correct about the map? Regards & thanks!!
If yours is bone stock, then find the "All countries" for that year, it probably says something like unrestricted in the title... If you have trouble finding the right one, I will see if I can grab the link for you.
Thanks!! There are a couple of "All countries unrestricted" however they have different dates with Dec 22 being the newest... That the one?? Regards!!@@SquireSCA
I believe that this is the one you are looking for:
drive.google.com/file/d/1FSM6leIDPxKPKQH7JcrPZXU87Km3xxcV/view?usp=share_link
Thank you very much!! Going to try this!!@@SquireSCA
Hi Dave. I installed the map and it took about 15 min. I then started up - however I got an error code and the engine mgt light is on. It says: P0315 Crankshaft Position Variation Not Learned... I tried to clear the fault but to no avail. I see the fuel bar has also disappeared. I did a repeat install but it still has the same issue. Any thoughts? You do not perhaps have the STD?OEM map so that I can revert to that and see if it corrects my issue? Regards!
On my 2014 Triple 660, I loaded up the map 20787 but it doesn't have ETV1/2/3 maps because its not fly-by-wire throttle. How would they be restricting the 660 to 50hp apart from a physical throttle restriction plate?
Likely by the cam profile and corresponding tune. The newer bikes you can unlock in the etc tables, the older models I don't think you can.
@@SquireSCA Looking further in to it, I realized that that map I'm looking at is the de-restricted map. I imagine that programming with map 20787 will be a full power tune as long as the physical restriction plate is removed too. I am sending it in for its 40k service next week so I'll be adding an exhaust and removing the throttle restriction then flashing this map and hoping it feels like 90hp instead of 50hp. Thank you for the great videos!
@@jaminmedia What is your base map number? I have never tried to flash a different map number to a bike before. I usually just modify the map it came with, and do my mods there and resend it. Let me take a look at your stock map and see if I notice anything in there holding back power.
@@SquireSCA My ODBLink LX just arrived. I connected to the ECU for the first time and read the info with unregistered copy of TuneECU.
ECU Type: 2012-0
Serial: (will not enter it here)
Total Downloads: 1
Map: 20787 (14/05/16)
It then lists the same info as the TuneECU page under map 20787, such as production silencer, Australia and New Zealand etc
So I imagine the tune that is available to download is also a 55hp LAMS restricted map?
sorry to bother you do you have a file for a street triple 675 from 2007?
I'm in europe (italy). I have an after market exhaust(the high exhaust from roads italia) with DB and CAT and a bmc filter.
Also do you know if somehow I installed a map for a bike with cat and mine was without it (or viceversa) would it be "dangerous" for the engine?
If the pipe you installed has a CAT in it and the dB killer, then you can probably get along fine with the stock map. If you search TuneECU's website there might be an "Arrow" or "TOR" map for that bike and year, that would work pretty well.
I don't personally have anything that old in my library...
Hey Dave I got an 17 Aprilia RSV4RR, how do I know that the Map that TuneECU has available for my bike is actually the correct map for my bike and is not just something someone randomly uploaded. I'm not being paranoid but I don't know too much about this stuff and don't wanna brink my ECU. I can wrench, computer not too much.😂
Those maps are from the guy who wrote TuneECU, not random people. I have yet to see them get one wrong.
@@SquireSCA thank you man! That's very reassuring. I'm just trying to cover my bases so I don't break shit lol.
Great Channel BTW!
I have one of your maps that I plan to upload on my 2022 Speedmaster. Triumph stock recommends 87 octane I believe but should I use premium 93 after uploading your map? Thanks
I use 93 out of habit anyway, as most bikes require it, my car I believe requires it, etc...
Hi Dave. I installed the map and it took about 15 min. I then started up - however I got an error code and the engine mgt light is on. It says: P0315 Crankshaft Position Variation Not Learned... I tried to clear the fault but to no avail. I see the fuel bar has also disappeared. I did a repeat install but it still has the same issue. Any thoughts? You do not perhaps have the STD?OEM map so that I can revert to that and see if it corrects my issue? Regards!
Reset adaptive using tuneecu. It happens sometimes when you flash a new map. Resetting adaptive will reset a few things, one of them being the crank position sensor.
I just saw this and thought it looked interesting. btw, whats an ECU? :)
The ECU is the magic box that make the bike go "Vrooom"... ;-)
Appreciate the tutorial. FYI the BOX storage is empty. Do you have the new url where they moved the stock maps?
You get them through the TuneECU app itself. Select Map, Open, then Download and it accesses the new location that way
@@SquireSCA just received my DNK Tune, yes I saw your video that you rated them possible 1 thumbs up after the fiasco and they are tunneling their customer service around :). Question, which is better to do after remapping the ecu, performing. “Reset adaptation” or the 12min tune ? Thanks in advance!
@@acerides1724 There is no 12 minute tune. There never was. All running it for 12 min does is force the reset adapations, which you can do in 10 seconds from TuneECU. I do it that way, to just clear out any old short term trims, force a reset of the TPS and Crank position sensor, etc...
@@SquireSCA thank you. Appreciate your support to Triumph ecu tuning community. Esp to newbie like me 🤙🏼
Dave, since I am a new Rocket owner... (2008 Touring), what can I expect to get out of this bike? It is stock with 12k miles. Thanks for a great channel.
New owner, but it's a 2008? If its that old, it's not using ride by wire so not much ability to unlock anything... You can tune it, of course...
@@SquireSCA Yup... new to me. I see a 2013 for sale in Las Vegas for several hundred more than I paid for the 2008. When did they go to fly by wire on the R3's? Are all of them now fly by wire? I heard they de-tuned the Touring models to around 84 RWH... but the book says 142RWH... Who do I believe and can I at least do some tuning and such with the TuneECU setup even if I do not have the different riding modes?
@@gw10758 You can always tune it, but I am pretty sure that a 2008 model isn't ride by wire and it will need a copy of the older Windows based TuneECU to program it.
@@SquireSCA I was able to get 2 of the latest Windows versions from a guy in the UK... v2.55 & v2.56. I also have another route which is the DynoJet, but have been told that they now lock many aspects of the MAP file for whatever reason... If anyone needs a copy of TuneECU for windows here in the states I can get it to them. Guess I will just have to wait until April (up here we do not get 'Spring' until usually mid-Arpil) just to see how she rides. Thansk again for the expert opinion.
Hi, I have a 2016 Street Twin 900, I got Tune ECU so I could get rid of the service light and manage my service intervals. When I registered my bike for the first time the Tune Ecu gave me the details of my VIN Including the Current Map that I have, its says Map: 30000_04 (16/11/22) then underneath it says Obsolete, replaced by version 05
Should I do something about it?
You can have the dealer update the map, or you can see if TuneECU has the most recent version and do it yourself.
@@SquireSCA how can I see which version of the map TuneEcu have, I took a look in the website And for my VIN 802892 I found the Map 30000 but how can I know which dash number is? Ex: _04 or _05 etc?
@@ripmax333 You can connect to the ECU with TuneECU, and then check informations. I am having to go from memory from two years ago, because I don't have a Triumph at the moment to go and check or screen cap or make a video, But it's not in the map section... Once you connect, you swipe to the right a screen or two where the dials are, and then click on CPU and I think then its Informations, and it should tell you which map the ECU is holding.
Hai qualcosa per la street twin 900 del 2020 ?
but can this remove the ristricted A2 35kw ? imagine i change the throttle and do a ECU FLASH, that means its should be full power..?
Correct!
@@SquireSCA thanks for the information. cause Portugal triumph wants to charge me 430€ for a piece of paper to be legal xD. And losing more money on the bike cause 35kw motorcyles are more money
what make and model device are you using to connect your bike? Thanks
This is the one you want:
amzn.to/4aYfai2
Its not cheap, but you don't want to risk bricking your bike's ECU, so get the proper one, in my opinion.
Okay on it. Thanks. I found your tutorial video for TuneECU and ordered the one you were using in that video. Hopefully, it works for me.
I have a 2016 street triple rx, with a K&N air filter and full exhaust... Are there any easy tweaks you know of that I could do? Also, I changed the chain to a 520 and dropped one tooth on the front, is there a way to adjust the speedometer/Odo
If you fitted a full exhaust, then you NEED a tune. I don't have one for that bike, so you will either need to find someone with that bike and that had a map made on a dyno, or put your bike on the dyno and get it tuned.
There is an Arrow map, but I think that is for the slipon... it's map number 20760. I will look at the map, but I don;t think that that bike has ride by wire.
Just looked at it, no restrictions to get rid of. If your tuner can work with ECU, toss it on the dyno and tune it. If he can't, then use TuneECU to disable O2 and SAI, flash the ECU, then install a Power Commander and have him tune it with that.
@@SquireSCA for the arrow map, would that work with really any slip on?
@@kris54241 Typically yes. The performance differences between slipons is minimal. If they are roughly the same length and same diamater, its just a piece of pipe... They will flow and perform about the same. The differences are look, weight and sound for the most part.
You don’t need to adjust the speedo. It works off of the abs sensor/ speed sensor.
@@dougzthou Correct!
Hi Dave I hope you still read your comments. I have a stock 2023 Speeed Twin 900 (Canada) BE5058 and I have downloaded map# 31079. Please advise if I'm wrong in that it looks like it is not being held back. Lastly would flashing a stock bike be of any benefit? I hope to hear from you. Thanks.
Yeah, here is a map to try. I took your stock base map, and made Road mode into Sport Mode. More aggressive and linear, added some ignition advance, reset AFR tables to 13.2, turned down the cooling temp fan trigger, and added a small amount of fuel to the typical lean areas...
drive.google.com/file/d/1_bAu6rtuxjShuGK1u4-8EK6Kiaxi3438/view?usp=sharing
@@SquireSCA Dave you are doing God's work. I'll give it a try this week and report back with results. Greatly appreciated.
@@user-bq2dz6mh4d Well, I don't really believe in god, and if I did, I don't know if he would care about Triumph tunes... haha
I do it for fun and to help the community, that's all. 🙂
So did you put the tune? What results did you get?@@SquireSCA
Does the 2018 rs street triple not need this retune? Very interesting.
No, for the 2019-19 models the motors have a different cam, which means they also have a different fuel and ignition tune. No way to turn the R into the RS without swapping out engine internals and doing a full tune, which at that point its cheaper to just sell the R and get the RS.
In 2020, they started using the exact same motor, same internals, same fuel and ignition tunes, and then they just manipulate the power output with the ride by wire tables... Just like they give a different power profile for Rain, Road and Sport... those 3 modes can be one output on the RS, and then they just dial them back for the R model...
Hi Dave. I've watched your videos and own a 2019 Speed Twin 1200 I have adjusted the standard UK map from the tune ECU database and wonder if you would take a look at it for me to see if it looks ok. If you don't mind. Thanks
Yeah, you can send it on over and I can check it out
Thanks that's awesome can I attach it on here ? 😂
Hi did it come through.. thanks
@@theedge1266 Nothing yet, and I did check my spam folder.
I'm not quite sure how to attach it here do you have an email thanks
Does it work on triumph Tiger 1200 rally pro? I got speed limiter at 204 km/h and it's p.... Me off.
Year, country and VIN range of your bike?
Hi @SquireSCA. I have 2022 Tiger 850 Sport EU version. Find my last 6 digits of VIN: AZ0870
You have shared already hex file for US version. Can i use it with EU? if not can you prepare updated one for EU with tuned Road map?
I will pull that map up tomorrow and make an EU version of them...
@@SquireSCA HI. Any chance for Tiger 850 Sport EU version ?
Hey man, I've got a 2013 Speed Triple ABS. Am I able to change the maps via the TuneECU android software?
I am not sure if the 2013 is supported by Android, or the old discontinued Windows version. Will have to check with them and see
Thanks so much for this info Dave. Question, can you add an additional mode at all? I have the bonnie speedmaster with rain and road, if you edit a clean table like etv3 will it create an additional ride mode like sport? Cheers Brad
I don't know. I don't know that the dash would use it, as the dash shows what mode you are in, and on an LCD screen there would need to have those symbols already there to toggle on and off. My guess is no, but you can always try?
@@SquireSCA yeah that is a good point. Thanks Dave, I'll let you know what happens if I give it a go 👍
Hi Dave, thanks a lot for your video. I’ve searched for a custom map for the 2017 Tiger 800 XRx in your TuneECU Box link but it looks like it’s expired. Do you know if this procedure works also on my bike so I can gain some torque/hp?
Thank you!
What country and VIN range?
Italy, VIN 820190
Checking now.
drive.google.com/file/d/1iGT59c6TCFupCruau-UCmJmfOKrMOcnK/view?usp=drive_link
Ignition timing restored, Sport mode more aggressive with limiters removed at full throttle, AFR targets lowered to 13.25, some fuel added to the lean cruising range, cooling fan set to come on a little sooner, etc...
Thank you 🙏🏻
Hi Dave, very informative video...Do you think that this method is going to bring changes to Tiger Explorer '16?
Regards
I don't know, but if you let me know the specific model, country and last 6 digits of the VIN, I can pull the file and take a look at it and see what is in there.
Thank you in advance! Explorer 1200, 2016. 787932. I hope I got it right.
What country?
@@SquireSCA sorry...Greece
@@costaskatsieris6129 I looked and it doesn't appear to be ride by wire, so there aren't any restrictions in place other than a little ignition timing that was pulled. Nothing that will make that much difference.
It's ride by wire where they do all the restrictions, so older bikes aren't held back like the newer ones are.
Hi, I have an older 2007 Tiger 1050 and my Wife has a 2017 Street Cup. Neither bike shows an ETV table. In the case of the Tiger I guess its because it still has throttle cables. But the Street Cup which is essentially a Street Twin doesn't either. I've scrolled through all the tables and nothing shows the values for % of throttle open. Any idea why? Thanks, Cloudy
The Street Cup doesn't have ride modes, right? I had one but it was like 7 bikes ago, so I forget... I am pretty sure it's not ride by wire.
@@SquireSCA Definitely ride by wire. And yes no ride mode's but I'd have thought there would still be an ETV table unless you do get 100% throttle opening at full throttle by default. Further searching bought up a Street twin tune without ETV tables as well.
@@cloudymcleod I will have to look into this, because I thought the Street Cup was the last model without ride by wire... If it doesn't have an ETV table, I feel like it doesn't have ride by wire... How would it translate input voltage from the throttle sensor to convert to a given opening of the throttle body?
Let me see what I can dig up...
@@cloudymcleod Yeah, everything I am seeing is ride by wire... but with no ETV tables, no way to tweak the delivery. It's preset on some hidden menu somewhere and it is what it is I guess...
@@SquireSCA Thanks for the reply. Its no biggy just an interesting anomaly
Hmmm, so I just got a Tiger 850 sport, do I not need a flash from like tuneworks to get gains? Tune ecu has everything I need to get more out of the bike?
You can do everything that DNK can do, right from your phone. What year, country and specific model do you have? What's the last 6 digits of the VIN?
@@SquireSCA 2022 tiger sport 850. I’m here in the states…ky specifically.
@@mark_Hershey Here you go. Sport/Road mode was heavily restricted, its now full power. Rain mode I left alone. Added a little bit of fuel for the typical lean spots, set the AFR targets to 13.2 and it has the cooling fan coming on a bit sooner.
Flash the map, start the bike and let it warm up. If it idles a little high that will settle in as you ride it. Road mode, or Sport, whichever is your bike's more aggressive map, should feel a good bit more lively, especially above 5000rpm.
Install it, and go play. Get on it and rev it up and put it through its paces and report back!
drive.google.com/file/d/1GFFBjb3TEqBysxL2AqmJkk_oLZ15feAj/view?usp=share_link
@@SquireSCA ok,dang.. thanks. First i have to get tune ecu, everything i own is iOS. So tonight, been looking at what cheap android phone/tablet to get. Then learn how to download and install. Yea..I’m green on ecu tuning and android stuff. Thanks!
@@mark_Hershey Just get a cheap Android phone or tablet on Amazon, the Bluetooth adapter, the TuneECU app and you are good to go.
When I had an iPhone 13 Pro I got a Samsung Galaxy tablet for like $199. I now have a Pixel 7 and can do it from the phone as well...
Quick question, I see that you are using blue stacks. Is it better to buy a usb OBD2 and use bluestacks with my laptop or just get an android device and use bluetooth obd2? Thank you.
I use Bluestacks to be able to use a 42" monitor and keyboard and mouse just to edit maps, its easier that way. But to flash the ECU, you need the correct bluetooth adapter and an Android device. I would never risk flashing an ECU with an Android Emulator.
@@SquireSCA Sounds good thanks!
Is there a way to get rid of the speedo ratio with TuneECU? When it says I'm doing 60mph but the GPS says 55mph
Some bikes, you can recalibrate the speedo, but not on others. It's under Map>Parameters
Only a few bikes allow that though, don't recall which ones, so check and see if your Mao does?
Beautiful! I have a 2022 Rocket 3 I want to try this on. Hopefully they allow the speedo recalibration for it. It drives me nuts that the GPS and the speedo don't match.
I have a few videos of the bike on my channel. @@SquireSCA
@@SeadogSeven MOST bikes have speedo's that are off. My 2022 R1 was reading 6% high from the factory. Totally normal, albeit annoying...
Hi... so I've purchased TuneECU £25 in the uk, now I'm unsure which map to use for a Thruxton 1200 R with VIN 917360. Do i use the lower VIN for all countries 30041 or the higher that states Japanese Market 30263 ? Also I'm struggling to find an App that reads a Hex file? Brand new Samsung 23 Ultra and nothing is supported??
Many thanks in advance Matt
You need to find the map in the database that matches your model of bike, country and VIN range. 30041 is your map.
Now, why do you need a hex editor? You download and open the map IN the TuneECU app, and you can modify any of the tables to suit your needs, and then save it, and push it to the ECU.
Hi Dave...I realised after that tuneECU read the file for me😊.... thanks for getting back to me.... also despite what you initially thought the Thruxton is also restricted. 82% at 100% throttle. ... I have my Bluetooth adaptor coming tomorrow so looking forward to opening it up..
@@matthewhunt6083 Yeah, the new Thruxtons are restricted, just not as much. They have 100's in most of that column while the Speed Twin has 90.7%...
Hi Dave.... thanks again for the reply. Another question!.....where as your ETV3 is similar from 0 upto 60% the Thruxtons is wildly different pretty from much from 0%, any idea why? and would it make for a smoother delivery power if I changed the whole range to match its highest output in each column?? I've currently changed them all down to the 23.1% column. In 23.1% is now 25 but the next drop to 15.4% is at 8.5...seems like a big jump from 8.5 to 25?? I've saved it as a fresh map so nothing changed it.
Many thanks in advance Matt
Did the reprogram without your advice, reprogram took about 3 minutes not the 18 minutes it took for yours, also didn't need to put the battery on charge whilst doing it.
Hi Dave, If I remap my new Triumph and have a programmer with the stock tune, can they tell if I reprogram it back to stock at the dealership? Will that potentially void my warranty?
Would it make sense to match throttle position to throttle output? ie 92.3 = 92.3 ?
You certainly can. This is one of those things where just getting rid of the restrictions are "good nuff"... But if you want to truly make it a 1:1 ratio, yeah, you can do that.
Now, I would be careful down low. Going truly linear all the way down to low throttle inputs might take away the smoothness at partial throttle openings. I seem to recall someone trying that on a Street Triple RS and they didn;t like how it felt.
Personally I feel like the bike is good down low and in the midrange, but I wanted full power up top so I did the mod.
@@SquireSCA makes sense. Has anyone looked into comparing the stock Rocket 3 maps vs the Rocket 3 TFC?
@@serialk.2144 I can look. Is there supposed to be a power difference on the TFC model?
Yes the TFC, per Triumph, makes 15 more HP and 3 ft lbs more of Torque
@@serialk.2144 just checked the maps, and it’s all in the etv tables. Same fuel and ignition, and the etv tables are the same until 6250rpm, and from there the TFC map stays about 15% higher than the other models.
Basically both models are restricted, but the TFC model is restricted a good bit less, hence why it makes more power. It’s all done in software, which means you can take your base model and unrestrict it entirely, and make it MORE than the stock TFC model…
I want to do this on my speed twin 1200 year 2023 but the Shouldn't the fuel and advance parameters be changed? Is the control unit able to adapt or is there a risk of detonation with the risk of break the pistons? Thanks
The ride by wire tables are independent of the fuel tables. You don't have to refuel if you unrestrict it. There is only one set of fuel tables, for all ride modes. Going from rain to sport does not make it lean, and neither will this.
Now, if you are installing exhaust and an air filter, than absolutely, you will want to alter the fueling and make sure its getting enough.
@@SquireSCAThanks for the reply, I'm happy now. then I prepare the map as you did in the video including the AFR values. the motorbike has oem filter and oem exhaust. in the future at the maintenance service I would like to fit a bmc or k&n panel filter and if necessary two more open exhaust terminals such as ixil ironhead. Will this necessarily lead to an adjustment of the fuel table? or just in case a decat is fitted? thank you so much for your answer
@@hybridjordan2511 Air filter won't change much, its more about the convenience of being able to wash it and re-use it. The mufflers might change the flow a little bit, and you can add a little fuel to compensate for that. Hit me up when you do the filter and mods, and I can help you with a map.
@@SquireSCA ok fantastic thank you so much
@@SquireSCAHi, I installed the modification to the etv3 sport map by changing the etc3 and afr table parameters. As you described. I reset the adjustments via tune ecu and everything seems to work fine.. I really hope that the complete opening of the throttle in sport mode does not unbalance the carburetion, creating fainting or a leaner air-petrol mixture.. because the petrol table is mapped for a throttle open to 70 let's say..
The TuneECU Box map database link is no longer available. Is there another location to view the available maps?
They are in the software itself. Map, open, download
The box map link isn't working. Can I get a map for the 2020 street acrambler? I have ahotgun slip-ons.
All the maps that were in the Box site, are now in the TuneECU map itself. Go to Maps, open, then Download, then Triumph and navigate to the appropriate folder.
Do you have a file for a 2020 STR in the USA that adds a bit of fueling so it's not so lean?
Thanks!
Do you want your R model also unlocked to get the top end power of the RS?
@@SquireSCA yeah that would be fantastic!
@@SquireSCA AA8153 are the last 6 of VIN
@@AJBortz Sport mode completely unrestricted, mild fuel trims added to typical lean areas, AFR targets reset to 13.2 and the cooling fan will come on a little sooner. I left Rain and Road mode alone, so Sport is the one that now delivers full top end power. Stock the R gives you 100% throttle opening until 7000rpm and then it closes down to 60% despite having the throttle pinned. In sport mode now, it will keep the plates open to 100% until redline. You should feel a significant difference up top in Sport mode now.
drive.google.com/file/d/1e6xdVuyZst57WRUepe525vqHUUHOwSxv/view?usp=drive_link
@@SquireSCA thanks! I was going to try just adding 5-10% in the ftrims and see how that felt, but it looks like you actually edited the fueling tables instead of adding to ftrims, better that way I think
Does this work on the 2008 Triumph America EFI which still has cable throttle???
No, throttle restrictions on the Triumphs are limited to ride by wire models. There are some other brands that use cable throttle, that also have secondary throttlebody valves that are controlled by the ECU, that can be unrestricted, but Triumph is not one of them to my knowledge...
@@SquireSCA Ok thanks for that. I did though get a Dynotune download from Triumph Twin Performance that removed the o2 sensor and added a unristricted air intake and filter so I thought it might be possible. It gave me from standard 53BHP to 57BHP and Torque from 48 to 55
@@SquireSCA Ok but should I not be able to get into the ECU and take a look at it? I did get a Dyno tune from Triumph Twin Power were the BHP went from standard 53BHP to 57Bhp and torque increase from 48 to 55. o2 sensors removed and high flow air filter installed.
@@martindekker8203 I believe that the bike you have requires the old Windows version of TuneECU, which I have not used in over a decade...
@@SquireSCA Yeh thats correct thats how I uploaded the Triumph Twin Power Dyno Tune. Just not sure were to find one to check the ECU.
How can I register? Cuz I got the tuneecu app but at the top it says not registered
Trying to recall, because I registered many years ago and it might have changed. But click on the 3 dots on the far right, and then license, then register and it should walk you through it.
@@SquireSCA just pay with paypal and that’s it?
@@ivanli882 I believe so. That sounds like how I did it years ago. You pay with PayPal, and then you enter in the email that you used for PayPal, into the app, it checks to make sure that it matches, and that unlocks it
Hi I have just put a Akrapovic slip on onto my Daytona 675 and the bike is struggling to idle and when revved will not return to idle and stalls. I think it may be a tuning issue and I have downloaded the map from TuneECU. It has the following tables F1, F2, F3, L1, L2, L3, I(1st), l(2nd), l(3-6th, l(N), AFR, Idle, Exhaust Valve, F-L Switch. Do I need to install all of these? Also I thought TuneECU was free, is this no longer the case as it is asking for a license fee. Thanks in advance
Yeah, when the writer of TuneECU moved it from Windows to Android, he started charging for it a few years back. But you pay once, and you use it forever with all the updates included.
As for what map to use... for the Daytona 675, there used to be an "Arrow" or "TOR" map for slipons for that bike. Try and find a copy of that and flash the ECU with it, if you can find one for that model, country and VIN range. Let me see if TuneECU has it... What year, model, country and VIN range is your bike?
Thanks for getting back to, the bike is a uk 2006 model, The VIN is up to 294377, the map I have chosen is 20400, hopefully you come to the same conclusion.
@@jamesbye6251 That's the right map, but let me tweak it a bit...
drive.google.com/file/d/15ZnXIPByVG-HEYLgr7N5aEbBlHxpXRr_/view?usp=share_link
That's the Arrow map with some ignition advance, and lowered the AFR tables to 13.25
Left the rev limiter alone, lowered the cooling fan temp, and if you did a sprocket swap, you can go into Map>Parameters and slide the "Speed Adjust" to account for the sprockets. If you need help figuring out what to slide it to, let me know what size front and rear sprockets you are running.
Hi, I’m not looking to change any other parts, I just want the bike to work with the increased performance promised by Akrapovic, the spec clearly stated that there is no re-map required, I have spent allot on the exhaust as it is for a 2006 bike due to the secondhand market being poor. If I could just get a map to unlock the performance promised then that would be good. The 20400 map states arrow or high aftermarket silencer, is this tailored too much towards the arrow?
@@jamesbye6251 The increased performance, needs a tune. Every maker of mufflers claims that it makes 5hp more with no fueling required. It's largely BS. You might get 1hp with no tuning.
If the muffler changes the flow enough to give a significant increase in power, then it changes the flow enough that it will need some fueling changes. That's what the 20400 map, and the one I sent you is for.
Arrow, Akra, M4, etc... Makes no difference. A 3" hole is a 3" hole, one slipon doesn't make more power than another if they are roughly the same size and length. Where they differ is sound, weight and looks, that's it.
You can use 20400 as it is from TuneECU, or use the one that I sent, that just tweaks a couple things. I would use mine, if it were my bike. I didn't change the fueling, but my tweaks will help, as they pulled ignition timing on that motor up top. I put it back it.
Hey is there a way to tune the bike with a wide band?
I mean, you can out Wideband sensors in the bungs and put it on the dyno and get readings if the sensors are plugged into the dyno, and then make your fuel edits in TuneECU... but there is no way for the ECU to use a Wideband sensor and auto tune the bike. There is an aftermarket system that does that, called RapidBike Evo. It tunes to an AFR though, not necessarily for best power. There is no magical AFR for any motor. Tuning to an AFR, will get you "good enough"...
Appreciate the response. I’m just trying to get it to make decent power and also smooth out the throttle on/off.
@@generaljakefilms What bike? The on/off throttle is because of the fuel cut feature that the EU requires... No way to disable that, so just learn to ride around it.
Can't get into the BOX directory: This shared file or folder link has been removed or is unavailable to you.
Think it's a mistake? No worries: Just email the owner or get in touch with Box support. We're here to help.
Also How do I get the File I need into Tune ECU? I'm wanting to upload a MAP already created but can't get my Amazon FIRE to load the MAP
You download the map for your bike through the TuneECU app. Goto Map, Open, then download, select Triumph and then continue to navigate to the model and year bike you have...
From there, you can edit the map, and then push it to the bike. You can't pull the map directly out of the bike, it only lets you push a map TO a bike.
Hi,
Did you have to let the engine run at idle for 15 min after the reprogram on your speed twin? I'm about to do it on mine
You can, but you don't have to. The 15 minutes things is just to reset adaptives, which I just do in TuneECU so its instant. The bike isn't really "tuning" anything, so just go take it for a ride and let it do its thing.
@@SquireSCA alright, thanks!
in another channel you shared the hex file, for instance Trident only has two modes Rain and Road mode, that tune you shared, it has additional mode called "Sport" along with two other modes?
Some bikes only have two ride modes, while others have 3 or 4
@@SquireSCA Understood 👍
Can you use an android laptop PC for the APP and subsequent tuning?
I do a lot of my edits on a PC running an Android emulator(BLueStacks) because it's easier working with a mouse, keyboard and a 42" 4K monitor... But for the actual flashing, I would only do it through a legit Android device. Doesn't matter if it is a phone or a tablet, but you want it to be actually a normal Android device... Otherwise you could risk bricking your ECU.
@@SquireSCAThank you kindly for the reply - I would of thought you should be able to flash direct from PC to ECU being an normal android device? But I know little on this matter and appreciate your experience. Thanks again.
When you say from a PC... you mean Windows? Like a normal PC?
@@SquireSCAYes, sorry should have been more specific. PC with Windows OS.
@@pod-puretone The new bikes have to be flashed from Android. The Windows app is like 15 years old and doesn't work with most of the new bikes.
Sir Dave, I have a t120 2018 with short predator exhaust, k&n and xpipe. I saw your feedback with dnk and decided not to get their product. Do you sell a map for my triumph sir?
I can take a look tomorrow, if I don't have one, I can make you one. I don't charge for it, I do it for free.
@@SquireSCA wow thank you sir! If you have any detailing needs let me know. I’m a pro Detailer! 🙏🙏🙏
@@jerimiahaltamirano1286 What country, and last 6 digits of the VIN so I can make sure to pull the right base map?
Been running the bike with the booster plug but it sounds like there’s a back fire on low rpms and low gears 😞
@@jerimiahaltamirano1286 Booster Plug is crap. It just tricks the ECU into dumping more fuel everywhere. it has no way to only add fuel where it needs it. Remove that crap and lets tweak you a map that works.
Have you removed the rubber intake snorkel on your airbox?
Hello, will this also makes the throttle response better? I'm getting a triumph trident 660 tomorrow, I will need a tune for it.
Yes it can, depending on the bike. What bike are you getting?
@@SquireSCA The Trident 660, 2021 model, I realised I didn't put it in my original post. Thanks for the fast response!
@@user-zp6gb8mf8i Yeah, there are some tweaks you can do to that bike
@@SquireSCA as long as they have a map for that bike in the database that can do that, then I will buy this equipment and file.
@@user-zp6gb8mf8i They have the stock base map, and then you take that and modify it, and push it to the bike.