And it is live! Wow. Do I sense an emotional trembling on the next to last chord? I would not wonder why. Yundi shows the whole range of emotions and must be inside those emotions to render them so well over a recording, years, TH-cam quality, Internet transport, and then a cheap computer with some medium quality speakers (which are actually quite good at exactly this kind of sounds.)
Playing this is God Level. Now imagine composing it! Damn! I wish Chopin could come back to life just to hear him tell Yundi, "yeah, you're almost good! Lemme show you the right way!" 😂 Chopin is a genius! ❤
@@sergei.scheen I mean, scherzos and ballades already really difficult, regardless of which you play. This piece is a nightmare in terms of clarity and speed
Usually when you think of being in a dark place in life, grief, rage, uncertainty, sadness, and anger are all kind of a huge rollercoaster and it is hard to make sense of the feelings since there are so many at once. I believe this piece of music is a perfect rendition of exactly that. The calmer and more reflective/ sad moments of the recurring passages can even be viewed as just being tired of the feelings and searching for a relief and not finding it. Then imagine the middle section as almost being asleep and forgetting some of it, but the feelings are still there and you can hear little bits of the melodic structures from the "a" section (possibly wrong terminology on the form) throughout the middle section. Theres tiny hints at the same tones of sadness or regret through out it. Then it goes back to the chaos when waking up from the dream. Ending with a climax that sounds almost creepy/scary. It puts one on edge almost. Let me know your thoughts on my interpretation! I'm curious if everyone feels more or less the same way, or if I'm extremely off on what Chopin was communicating on this. (Please don't flame me, I am just giving my initial reactions after reviewing the piece and working on it a little)
Imagine that you are 19 and have to leave you whole family and go abroad because it is dangerous in your country. Imagine that you will never know if you come back there, and you will not see your parents, siblings, friends for a very long time. Imagine that you have "friends" in the new country, who likes you just because you are a very talented pianist. Thats exactly how Chopin felt. Loneliness depression, sadness. The middle section is the polish carol motif, that probably reminds him of Poland.
@@lorian4366 I do know that scherzos were supposed to be a joke, but from what I've read in my studies it seems that most agree that Chopin didnt really follow that at all. I dont know how accurate it is though... I mean playing through and listening to his other scherzos its hard to find a lot of humor in them.
@@Ethan-jl1fj There is definitely a lot of drama in this scherzo, and I as well have heard that Chopin apparently makes some departures from the genre (though my knowledge of non-Chopin scherzos is not really extensive). But I think pianists would be well served to, aside from the passion and drama, incorporate the humour-like aspects of a scherzo - almost to show implacability and nonchalance in the face of adversity. Many of the short blurring passages are followed by rests - very unexpected and almost joking. Frequent mood swings. And I recommend again how Rubinstein bangs the same chord over and over effectively on the last page (the recording is on TH-cam).
Besides the violent and powerful fast phrases, I'm really amazed by his rubato in many slow phrases. For example, he made the first note of most bars longer in Molto più lento.
The tempo marking is 120 to the dotted half note, which is what Yundi plays. But yeah, Presto con fuoco is the marking and playing it slower takes away the fire.
That was incredible, never heard someone play that ending so crazy good. Sad that people will hear that one note despite the flawless performance though.
if you dont know the backstory heres an overview: basically chopin is sad because hes away from his family but in his home place there's a war so he cant spend christmas with his family or even come back to see them in fact, the middle part is actually a polish christmas carol
3:48 you can clearly hear the Polish carol "Lulajze Jezuniu" (Sleep little Jesus) th-cam.com/video/tPc20BS3hC8/w-d-xo.html This is a trace of his Polish childhood... While creating this music, he had to go through incredible emotional states...
Horvitz, comfortably in his front room, plays the chromatic double octave run version of the end of this work: check it out, it’s absolutely stunning ❤.
A journey of self hatred and refuge in childhood memories, a mom's lullaby, only to realize that nothing is as pure anymore and that you cannot even trust your own thoughts. At least that's how I see it. edit: talking about composition, I haven't read about it tho. Just the way I saw it for the last 5 years. But hey, maybe I am projecting big time :D
If you know this piece well enough, from the beginning Yundi Li's playing is like not understanding what someone is saying. "What did you say?". Only the very best best musicians will understand what I mean.
i was always was hated on by my teachers because i taught my self chopin (btw i look like i could be in a biker gang) and when i was going to school it was mostly foreigners playing this type of music(and I had more common with them and we could barely communicate). Not sure where I'm going with this. But I love all music from pantera to howlin wolf and from chopin to otis redding. I was going to school for classical music. It is just way to up tight
206redrider it’s not uptight. Don’t think too much about it or I’ll mess you up. Just listen to and play what you like. It’s great that you enjoy such a wide range of music
I do not think the odd comments are worth reading,as a pianist I have to appreciate detail,some rubato, and taking a breath. Actually, after the lullaby Li did restrain the speed a bit.Who can play this the fastest? It is not a race, Agitato- Presto, I like to hear all the notes,a pedal makes it .worse. Ah yes clarity with passion.Enough said-keep practising & save it for the coda.
really no offense, but this is actually the easiest part in the whole piece...chromatic scales sound impressive, but literally everything else in this piece is harder to play :)
@@marshan1226 I have no idea... haven't seen his recent performance. But I think skill is not a problem for a pro pianist like him. What I care about is his musical taste. I missed his taste and interpretation in this video.
Is this what CHOPIN wanted ? Interpretation yes- listened to a lot of pianists,I see the score and the dynamics are plain to see. Too much speed and with the pedal detail is lost too. Presto,yes but let us here clarity. I learn a lot from these performers, I try to get the composers intention when I play. Known the piano 76 years.
@@piano_guy_handle According to my mood,I would go for Richter most times.Love to hear Chopin play it! And for him to give a master class including Sonata no 2.
Well played, as anyone would have to agree, but I feel it's overly fast. To lessen the speed somewhat would result in an increase of dramatic effect, not a diminishing of it. In this connection, think of how many times you've heard pianists barrel their way through the 1st movement of Chopin's 2nd sonata in the ill-conceived belief that the faster the tempo, the stronger the dramatic impact. Getting back to this scherzo, why does this pianist (and many others) feel it necessary to rush the final chords? This does nothing to "increase the tension," and shouldn't we credit the composer with having sufficient familiarity with musical terminology to be able to indicate "stretto" or "accelerando" if he wanted them sped up?
Lol you're right, we should've all caught that before his bigger fuck up in the concerto so he would've gotten more of that piano practice in by that time
Yes, he did, but you have to admit that he plays this piece better than most people and he gives it his own rare interpretation. Phenomenal even with that one second FU!!!!
The matchless, all-knowing glory of Chopin. What a transcendent, superhumanly poignant piece, and what an interpretation!
Incredible rendition. Really impressive. Honestly I haven’t heard a better version than this one.
And it is live! Wow. Do I sense an emotional trembling on the next to last chord? I would not wonder why. Yundi shows the whole range of emotions and must be inside those emotions to render them so well over a recording, years, TH-cam quality, Internet transport, and then a cheap computer with some medium quality speakers (which are actually quite good at exactly this kind of sounds.)
Playing this is God Level. Now imagine composing it! Damn! I wish Chopin could come back to life just to hear him tell Yundi, "yeah, you're almost good! Lemme show you the right way!" 😂 Chopin is a genius! ❤
it’s actually not that hard compared to the other scherzos or ballades
@@sergei.scheen I mean, scherzos and ballades already really difficult, regardless of which you play. This piece is a nightmare in terms of clarity and speed
"What's your favorite Chopin piece?"
"Probably the Scherzo No.1"
"Never heard it, how does the melody go?"
"....."
😂😂😂 Totally
Hhhhh made my day
That's true, haven't realised that, not much melody at all. Crazy
Usually when you think of being in a dark place in life, grief, rage, uncertainty, sadness, and anger are all kind of a huge rollercoaster and it is hard to make sense of the feelings since there are so many at once.
I believe this piece of music is a perfect rendition of exactly that. The calmer and more reflective/ sad moments of the recurring passages can even be viewed as just being tired of the feelings and searching for a relief and not finding it. Then imagine the middle section as almost being asleep and forgetting some of it, but the feelings are still there and you can hear little bits of the melodic structures from the "a" section (possibly wrong terminology on the form) throughout the middle section. Theres tiny hints at the same tones of sadness or regret through out it.
Then it goes back to the chaos when waking up from the dream.
Ending with a climax that sounds almost creepy/scary. It puts one on edge almost.
Let me know your thoughts on my interpretation! I'm curious if everyone feels more or less the same way, or if I'm extremely off on what Chopin was communicating on this. (Please don't flame me, I am just giving my initial reactions after reviewing the piece and working on it a little)
Imagine that you are 19 and have to leave you whole family and go abroad because it is dangerous in your country. Imagine that you will never know if you come back there, and you will not see your parents, siblings, friends for a very long time. Imagine that you have "friends" in the new country, who likes you just because you are a very talented pianist. Thats exactly how Chopin felt. Loneliness depression, sadness. The middle section is the polish carol motif, that probably reminds him of Poland.
Remember a Scherzo is supposed to be a joke. I think Rubinstein brings out the humour well, especially his interpretation of the last page.
@@lorian4366 I do know that scherzos were supposed to be a joke, but from what I've read in my studies it seems that most agree that Chopin didnt really follow that at all. I dont know how accurate it is though... I mean playing through and listening to his other scherzos its hard to find a lot of humor in them.
@@Ethan-jl1fj There is definitely a lot of drama in this scherzo, and I as well have heard that Chopin apparently makes some departures from the genre (though my knowledge of non-Chopin scherzos is not really extensive).
But I think pianists would be well served to, aside from the passion and drama, incorporate the humour-like aspects of a scherzo - almost to show implacability and nonchalance in the face of adversity.
Many of the short blurring passages are followed by rests - very unexpected and almost joking. Frequent mood swings. And I recommend again how Rubinstein bangs the same chord over and over effectively on the last page (the recording is on TH-cam).
@@Ethan-jl1fj:: Agree, they are not "Scherzo" like Beethoven's or Haydn's, this Chopin Scherzo is rage and nostalgy.
Amazing Best Scherzo
HE'S PLAYING LIKE STORMMMMM
Incredible playing and sound, search no more
This is great!!! Yundi really had the best Chopin! Great technique!!!
Yundi is certainly amazing!
Bravo!
Forever my favourite recording of this piece 🎹
I think Yundi has the best interpretation of this piece.
Oh, 100%. In my opinion, there's not even a close second.
forbidinjustice I really like carteen’s versión on youtube
forbidinjustice *cateen
Besides the violent and powerful fast phrases, I'm really amazed by his rubato in many slow phrases. For example, he made the first note of most bars longer in Molto più lento.
Arthur Rubinstein is simply way better imo
A unique interpretation... especially for the cantabile B major section in the middle👍
Best Interpretation Ever
Period
I dont care who you recommend
Interesting voicing of the melody, throughout the trio section.
다시 이런 멋진 연주해주세요 윤디리~! 돌아와~~ㅜㅜ
Wow very fantastic!
1:22 my favorite part for sure
역시 클라스가 다르네요...쨩!
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화질은 필요 없다! 음질에 몰빵했다!
A piece that really benefits from speed
Yeah. Try to play it slow and it doesn't make any sense :D
@@Chopin1995 Makes you think how did Chopin even compose this???
@@roshaanbhabra5611 Yeah, I'd love to see how this piece came about. I wonder what was people's reaction to this in 1830s.
The tempo marking is 120 to the dotted half note, which is what Yundi plays. But yeah, Presto con fuoco is the marking and playing it slower takes away the fire.
It doesn't sound like just one person- awe-inspiring voicing
That was incredible, never heard someone play that ending so crazy good. Sad that people will hear that one note despite the flawless performance though.
돌아와 윤디리ㅜ
I have not found anyone who played this better on youtube. and yes, Pogorelich is really good as well
Claudio arrau
Benjamin Grosvenor plays it at the original tempo incredibly (120=dotted half note)
nah i think aimi kobayashi has better interpretation
Truth
m.th-cam.com/video/PcXCdDqlCNU/w-d-xo.html
No one ever plays scherzo 1 given it's darkness and anger. I love how Yundi blasts this.
Yes! That's rght! This is perfect music:)
Darkness and anger? I hear anger with hints of sadness.
It's all a big joke. Especially the last page
@@lorian4366 It's a very angsty joke! And the last two pages are especially... funny? No, the joke is that this piece is called a "scherzo." :P
@@VyvienneEaux indeed, I find it funny that all of Chopin's scherzos were called scherzos...except for the last one😆
My favorite part is in the ending 9:17 is holy great
if you dont know the backstory heres an overview:
basically chopin is sad because hes away from his family but in his home place there's a war so he cant spend christmas with his family or even come back to see them
in fact, the middle part is actually a polish christmas carol
Thank you!
3:48 you can clearly hear the Polish carol "Lulajze Jezuniu" (Sleep little Jesus)
th-cam.com/video/tPc20BS3hC8/w-d-xo.html
This is a trace of his Polish childhood... While creating this music, he had to go through incredible emotional states...
8:58 don't mind me this is just a personal timestamp
Reynand R.W. 😂😂😂😂🤝
Very good interpretation execution...!!!
Very good interpretation execution
HAHAHA
still not as “good” as Lang Lang 😏
Marvelous!
5:30 wtf was that.
somebody dropped an umbrella?
I think I have this on recording. I remember a Big Bang(something falling) on my cd.
its lung cancer
Horvitz, comfortably in his front room, plays the chromatic double octave run version of the end of this work: check it out, it’s absolutely stunning ❤.
미친 사람인줄 ㅠㅠ
너무 잘쳐서...ㅠㅠ
A journey of self hatred and refuge in childhood memories, a mom's lullaby, only to realize that nothing is as pure anymore and that you cannot even trust your own thoughts.
At least that's how I see it. edit: talking about composition, I haven't read about it tho. Just the way I saw it for the last 5 years. But hey, maybe I am projecting big time :D
Wait by that you are talking about the composition or the interpretation?
Thats deep...
practice makes perfect
저도 이거하는데 너무 어려워요😢😢
-------------->Perfect!
맞아용...ㄷㄷ
이렇게 잘치면서.... 왜..
Triumphant conclusion with an Amen at the end...
이광석 it’s not triumphant.
@@ryacoli The last 2 cords says Po-land/ Pol-sky-he was leaving his country of birth.
Pure genius!
If you know this piece well enough, from the beginning Yundi Li's playing is like not understanding what someone is saying. "What did you say?". Only the very best best musicians will understand what I mean.
What 😂
i also play this piece so yeah i know what you're talking about
Shut Up Dimwit
😲👍👍👏👏👏
9:10 finale
Mega
Bravo!
i was always was hated on by my teachers because i taught my self chopin (btw i look like i could be in a biker gang) and when i was going to school it was mostly foreigners playing this type of music(and I had more common with them and we could barely communicate). Not sure where I'm going with this. But I love all music from pantera to howlin wolf and from chopin to otis redding. I was going to school for classical music. It is just way to up tight
206redrider it’s not uptight. Don’t think too much about it or I’ll mess you up. Just listen to and play what you like. It’s great that you enjoy such a wide range of music
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
🎹🎹Great perpomance....🇨🇳
9:24 HIS FACE
6:53
great performance
👏
오오 윤디 리 전성기...
Lee min jae 지그믄...
@@br_arba 나중에는 못쳐요?
@@christinalee8016 뉴스보시면 아시듯이..한국연주 망했...😣
@@christinalee8016 윤디리 실수라고 검색하면 나와요ㅠ
@@가나다-z7k 아 그렇군용!알려주셔서 감사합니댜♡
아 이거다
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IT'S ПОТРЯСАЮЩЕ, -- Your PlayING , -- БРАВИССИМО ❤❤❤ !
Im torn between his ability to play and his appreciation to slow the fuck down where necessary.
Beutiful nonetheless.
exactly 216,000 views!
this piece reminds me of ysaye sonata 3 for sone reason
진짜로 너무 어렵지만 하고있어요😅😅😅😅😢😢
He is Asian Chopin
Reminds me a bit of moonlight sonata 3rd movement at times
except this is like GOD level in comparison
Best scherzo ever. I prefer to listen his recording version than this one.
I do not think the odd comments are worth reading,as a pianist I have to appreciate detail,some rubato, and taking a breath. Actually, after the lullaby Li did restrain the speed a bit.Who can play this the fastest? It is not a race, Agitato- Presto, I like to hear all the notes,a pedal makes it .worse. Ah yes clarity with passion.Enough said-keep practising & save it for the coda.
No. The tempo is literally 120 to the dotted half note and if you play slower, it lacks fire and energy.
9:30... holy sockkuking shucking fit...
really no offense, but this is actually the easiest part in the whole piece...chromatic scales sound impressive, but literally everything else in this piece is harder to play :)
why...?
AkidNamedJascha He/she might be talking about the part right before the chromatic scales at 9:34. 9:30
Who recorded with an android?
Perhaps No one, it was recorded with a carrot
Shame on the camera operator who decided against that left-hand view at 9:10
He was an amazing performer. What happened to him I wonder 😔
I was suppose to go see his concert this February but due to the virus, it was on hold until next year.
I wonder too...
Daniel Martinez did his piano skills worsen?
WU YI ?
@@marshan1226 I have no idea... haven't seen his recent performance. But I think skill is not a problem for a pro pianist like him. What I care about is his musical taste. I missed his taste and interpretation in this video.
Is this what CHOPIN wanted ? Interpretation yes- listened to a lot of pianists,I see the score and the dynamics are plain to see. Too much speed and with the pedal detail is lost too. Presto,yes but let us here clarity. I learn a lot from these performers, I try to get the composers intention when I play. Known the piano 76 years.
What’s your favourite version?
@@piano_guy_handle According to my mood,I would go for Richter most times.Love to hear Chopin play it! And for him to give a master class including Sonata no 2.
Cool
The clarity is there. The speed is great because any slower means it loses character.
Sbagliato il primo accordo?
bJARki
No sabia que fernanfloo era pianista
Chistoso eres?
國興保全公司Shutdown!
Well played, as anyone would have to agree, but I feel it's overly fast. To lessen the speed somewhat would result in an increase of dramatic effect, not a diminishing of it. In this connection, think of how many times you've heard pianists barrel their way through the 1st movement of Chopin's 2nd sonata in the ill-conceived belief that the faster the tempo, the stronger the dramatic impact. Getting back to this scherzo, why does this pianist (and many others) feel it necessary to rush the final chords? This does nothing to "increase the tension," and shouldn't we credit the composer with having sufficient familiarity with musical terminology to be able to indicate "stretto" or "accelerando" if he wanted them sped up?
good
I'm also learning this song (:
Jen Zhang It’s not a song.
Song???
@@elsaesteves Song. The middle part takes the melody of a Polish Christmas carol, a lullaby for baby Jesus.
Oh,I learning this music too>
@@daniely.poonsyverson2603 shut up
7:59
HE FUCKED UP HE FUCKED UP
Honestly if I get to the level where I could play this piece and that's my only fuckup, I'd be pretty happy
Lol you're right, we should've all caught that before his bigger fuck up in the concerto so he would've gotten more of that piano practice in by that time
So unnecessarily cheap and vulgar. No class.
@@Annie-ep6fh shutup
Yes, he did, but you have to admit that he plays this piece better than most people and he gives it his own rare interpretation. Phenomenal even with that one second FU!!!!
this piece= chopin trying to "out liszt" liszt. that being said, chopin was bar none a more original and innovative musician (in MY opinion)
Bravo si ma meglio interpretazione noo
7:00
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