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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 พ.ค. 2020
- This has been requested sooooo many times so here it is!! The T-GT review! I've been using this wheel for 2 years now so I think I have a good opinion on the good and the bad part of it. Especially as I spent my own money!!!!
Any additional feedback greatly appreciated in the comments!
...Enjoy :)
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Great honest review ! Thank you very much for all your details and opinions. 2 years ago you reviewed the Fanatec CSL Elite, at the time I was making a choice between the TGT and CSL. Well I already knew Thrustmaster had issues with reliability and I can now say I'm glad I went for Fanatec even if I had 2 issues (up shift paddle wont work and throttle gear potentiometer made of plastic wearing because metal-plastic is a silly combo). Thankfully Fanatec support team did a great job by sending me a brand new CSL Elite free (2 euros for packaging but that's fine), still have to sort out the potentiometer but it holds up okay at the moment with a few teaks.
I've also recently discovered the amazing Dirt Rally 2.0 so another good choice for Fanatec.
I'm still very curious to try the extras that the TGT can offer in GT Sport just as a comparison to the Fanatec. But I don't think it's worthy to spend 500 euros for a few extras in one game where Polyphony have done a good job supporting the Fanatec in the last few updates.
Cheers Tidgney again !
Thanks Tidge for the great video, from a die hard Gran Turismo fan and T-GT owner. No issues to report from me after 5 months (touch wood)
Thanks for the review, been having the T-GT since end of 2018, happy with it but yes i also have the problem with the rotating buttons, fuel map behaving the same, probably after less than 6 month in my possession.
Also like you said not easy to clean inside the pedals, i had to unscrew the thing and clean with WD-40 because there was dust in there and that was messing with the potentiometer of my throttle (couldn't get 100% throttle or it was all over the place...)
Since then no real problems.
Nice honest review. Thanks mate. T-GT is way over priced, If you can find one!
Glad you did the review mate.
I had a T300 in UK for 2 years no problem, moved to New York and got a T300 RS-GT mainly for the T3PA..
In 1 month of use it broke :/ it's in France being fixed and I thought about getting money back and getting the T-GT but think I'll hold off a bit 👍👍
Christopher Heath Same, had my T300 RS GT for 2 months. Now waiting for it to be picked up and shipped off for repair.
@@clinicalgt2406 when the official FIA races have started too. Annoyed with thrustmaster, I was emailing back and forth for a month before they even took it back.
Did yours start making a whirring sound from the base?
Christopher Heath Yeah sounds like the fan is grinding loudly. I had to send TM a video of start up, a video of the noise, a photo of the base label and invoice.
A quick fix for the stitching problem I did was to use some super glue to smooth over .
The conical brake mod is actually really useful as it goes some way to recreating the "pressure modulation" feel of a real brake pedal. It's not a load cell by any means, but it's a vast improvement over the standard linear braking. You just need to spend a couple of minutes in the game options calibrating the brake pedal.
at first i didn't like the brake mod but i had to use it to get rid of that "click click" when braking and now i really like it! shouldn't they calibrate themselves like how it's written in the user manual ? :O
@@ConniefriendfromGermany It does on PC, but I'm not sure about consoles.
@@slaphead90 it does on ps4, that's why i got confused when you said you have to go to game options to calibrate :D
It really isn't good for GT Sport which is my primary racer. So much so it was removed from the official competition!
i just went from a TGT to a fanatec CSW 2.5 and the fanatec is an eye opener.... the TGT is not smooth to turn at all in comparison, its a lot smoother than a logitech G29 but you certainly can feel every notch still when you turn it slowly, the T300 is actually smoother to turn but the TGT is better in every other way than a t300, certainly not smooth though when you compare it to a fanatec wheel though for absolute sure. other flaws that dont jump out to you until you try a more premium product are things like the build quality, on the surface of it the TGT seems very well made and in fact they improved on a lot of things over the T300 and its better cooled and uses better materials etc but again there are things that just seem poor next to the fanatec gear, for example the quick release system is not very quick release at all, the way you secure the rim to the hub aswell is really kind of stupid indeed, i ended up with more than one screw hole in my hub because over time i could tighten the rim on just a bit more than before which meant the screw down point changed, again fanatec stuff is just substantially better in this regard.
is it fair to compare to fanatec stuff, usually id say no ofcourse not, you do pay more for fanatec... in every which way be it rims, pedals or whatever but the TGT was not a cheap wheel, it has to be compared to at least entry level fanatec stuff because its RRP was real close on release.
enjoyed the review though, its interesting to see what others have to say and compare it to your own experience.
There definitely seems to be longevity issues with not only the TGT but the TM Load Cell pedals too and on top of that looking like they are becoming more expensive than other brands like Fanatec, i think this boost in price could be related to the demand with the amount of Sim racing going on and people spending more time at home in the current situation, regarding the stitching on my P1 Fanatec wheel iv'e yet to have any issues with mine and iv'e been using it regularly for about 18 months and none of the stitching has even begun to come adrift, the only issue i had once was one of the flappy paddles lost it's tactile click feel to it and they replaced it instantly and luckily still within it's 2 year warranty.
A video review / comparison performance test of potentiometer brakes Vs Load Cell brakes ( not TM LCs) would be good. :)
Cheers Tidge.
I picked up a T-GT as my first upgrade in a decade to the wheelbase (from a G27) a few months ago. Was considering a direct-drive, but wasn’t able to hold out with the exchange rate, so T-GT it was, as I could see the price jumping between stores. (I got it at AU$1100, definitely overpriced; but it’s now AU$1650. A ~50% price hike!) I’ve been rather happy with it so far, though I do feel a bit of positional notching while holding long turns - I hold one position, make a minor correction, and the wheel “slips” to the next notch on the belt. Though I haven’t had the issue with the stitching myself, when it’s an advertised feature that “The leather’s sewing pattern has been specially designed so as not to be felt by the driver” (from Thrustmaster’s own product page), having it be able to break away is simply unacceptable. Moreover, it’s not even true; I can certainly feel the stitching beneath my fingers when I’m resting them on a straight in top gear. Not good enough. Speaking of which, the included pedal set is also not good enough; I’ve already ordered a T-LCM set, since my main two games are GTS and iRacing. A travel-based brake at this level and cost should never have been on the table if TM wanted this to be taken seriously for any game other than GTS. To then have reports of the springs failing on top of that is ridiculous. Being a tech-head, I have a somewhat complex setup for my rig, including a USB KVM switch repurposed to allow me to hit a button to change which device the wheel (and shifter) is connected to. Using this, I was able on at least one occasion to get the special T-DFB to work on a PC… and play music through it. Because it is literally a speaker connected to an on-board audio device, that is disabled in “Other” mode. No, I’m not sure how I managed it that one time, but opening that functionality up would actually make it a better wheel in my opinion, by allowing it to work with more software. Another thing worth doing, if you never have, is updating the wheel and wheelbase firmware. I did this immediately upon receiving it, so I can’t comment on what the difference is, but it stands to reason that it’s an improvement over the stock firmware. However, you do need to plug the wheel into a PC for this; given the main target is PS4, this isn’t exactly intuitive, and for those without a PC near their rig, they may never think to do so. The analog sticks drifting seem to be a common problem amongst all products at the moment; not only the T-GT, but also DualShock 4 and Nintendo Switch analogs are notorious for drifting. I wouldn’t put this solely on TM, I think a supplier may have decided to cut costs all round. For the dials, the only thing I can complain about with them is that the push function for three of them is effectively unused in GTS. I ended up setting the right analog to manipulate the MFD, so that I can check the settings without immediately altering them. The way rotary encoders (which the dials are) work, it’s better to turn them slowly and methodically, rather than just rip them all the way in one direction; you need to allow time for the sensing to occur, otherwise you will often get false readings based on skipping intermediate steps (how it knows which direction you actually turned it). I generally haven’t had a problem with them based on this. In conclusion it’s overpriced, especially at the moment, but for GT players it is in a class of one at this point. I just hope it isn’t obsoleted soon…
Cheers for that detailed feedback, great to have for the review and for others to see!
Good honest review. I was seriously tempted to get this wheel, but with springs breaking like that I think I will stick with my trusty old t500 for now.
On a side note, what gt omega seat are you using? I have the rs9 evo seat and it kills my arse after a couple of hours. Can you fit any seat to it? Thanks
XL RS :). I believe you can fit any of the GT Omega seats to it, not sure about other seats mind you.
Simply put , I respect your review but in the end after trying other products like the fanatec ...... I am still in the preference of the Fanatec CLS and higher tier products .... that being said I did enjoy your review
And my spring has never had any problems but I have always used the break mod that probably helps
The G29 has dial issues on GT Sport. When spinning the red wheel on the G29 it often doesn't register when trying to move brake bias etc.
Maybe it used to be different, but the T300 RS GT version comes with those nicer T3PA's with the brushed or whatever metal pedals.
Same problems as you:
Broken spring. = After sales service ok replacement
Sewing break = After sales service ok replacement
but still the problem on the new steering wheel!
Now Big black scotch tape that I change from time to time !?
About 12 months ago I almost bought a T-GT used for about £400 and resisted because it felt a bit too high. Now I really want to upgrade and due to Covid-tax and everything being popular just now in the sim racing world I can't get a hold of it for less than £600. Then also adding on £180 for the T-LCMs - whenever they come back into stock as well. Considering looking at Fanatec, but I'd have to get extra rims to replace my TM Open wheel that I love and my 599XX wheel I use in GT racing.
What is the calibration of the thrustmaster TGT in Gt sport. You could make a video showing thanks.
I have used this for a while in GT Sport when Toyota made a competition for the Gazoo racing series in my place. Didn't know they were this expensive and coming from a person who have only practiced on Keyboard and mouse in Live For Speed, it feels hard to control and the car spuns out alot.
I had the same problem with the dials and joysticks. The left joystick was so bad I did a warranty claim for it. The amount of times I'd missed "do not refuel" because the cursor moved itself lol...
Its so random, I dont get it. It's actually the rim that's the problem. My old one had it, this doesn't :O!
Got a new T-GT for 300€ on Amazon Warehouse.. I'm exited :D
Anybody having a problem with their fan on the T300 just press the options button and mode button together for 3 to 4 seconds when the light flashes twice you have force fan feedback all the time. Have had no problems since.
Yup that's the solution, thanks for posting this :)!
The dial problem is the game! I had 3 G29 and the red dial was unreliable in GT Sport on all 3 of them but worked fine in other games again on all 3 of them. Its a shame but thats how it is. Rotor dials are unreliable in GT Sport x/ Nice review as always Tidge ty :)
I always thought my G29's dial was a factory defect...
@@gerardjoaquino8856 Yeah I did so with my first 2 wheels aswell but then I tried a friends T-GT at his place and it was exactly the same :/.. So there was nothing wrong with any of my G29s haha.. Try and map it in other games on the PC, you'll see it works as intended without any issues. It's really a shame cause having a rotor dial is such a big help but it's just urgh when it has to be so unreliable - _-
Eyo guys im a little confused, what steering wheel should i buy?
Thanks for that review! May I ask something about the dials? I'm a G29 user, and I find it... eh... sub-optimal ... that I need to use the up/down buttons to switch from brake bias to the fuel mixture (to radar) BEFORE I can change the setting via the large dial. How's this working on the T-GT? When e.g. the radar is displayed, does the display automatically "jump" to the fuel map, just by using the green (?) dial? I'm not sure if this would justify 500+ bucks for me...
Any help is highly appreciated, happy racing ~ Seven-Ten Cap!
It indeed jumps straight to the function you're changing. So if you're on radar and change fuel it will jump to fuel :).
@@tidgney Thanks a lot! Keep it coming and happy racing ~ Seven-Ten Cap!
How many hours did you put on the wheel to get the stitching loose??? I mean i know the leather on those wheels is really soft and thin but i have well over 1000 hours on my r383 playing DR2 (not going easy on the wheel) and its perfectly fine...
I'd argue less than 1000 hours, in fact I've just noticed it's coming loose on my 2nd wheel rim! Good job I've got a 3rd spare one!
This must be a game issue with the dials. I use a G29 and the dial on that doesn't work properly in game (sometimes overshoots, sometimes doesn't work at all). In the menus it works perfectly fine and it works fine in other racing games on the PC.
The issue with the g29 dial is that it doesnt work if the wheel is currently rotating. The tgt dials have varying quality. On my old tgt, only one dial worked. Now all do on my newer one. Definitely a hardware reliability issue
It seems surprising to me that you put the GT mode as a pro. I have a T300RS GT and it has a similar feature when you play in PS4 mode, but the "understeer feedback" is so much stronger than "normal" FFB it makes it hard to drive. That's why I have to play in PS3 mode and use a controller to navigate the PS4 menus.
All the GT mode does is turn on the woofer at the back to create vibration related to the road/grip and it feels good
Gt mode seems to be a pro. But it’s a t300 with extra features at this point. Yet they’re charging direct drive prices for a feature that only works on one game...
Hey Tigney how are you ? I just bought a t'gt-1 and on your review i think you said the 4 silver rotary encoders work in all games is that right?
Hello, they do indeed :)!
G29 user here pc2/gt/ac on console. Looks like a great wheel just unsupported. Add the price it’s a no from me tbh.
Did you try the TS-PC racer option in PC2? The wheel has the same internals as the T-GT so most likely to be best unless something prevents you selecting it.
I think all the feedback suggested using the T300 from memory, was awhile ago so not 100% sure!
@@tidgney Thanks for replying. Admire your balls of steel taking an R8 to the one make GTR race at Suzuka recently and no issues with any of your other valid criticism of the T-GT, however claiming potential poor compatabilty with some PC games at about 15:45 is IMO slightly unfair T-GT is internally the same as TS-PC only with a butt kicka bolted to the outside thats sadly only used by GT Sport. Looking forward to you doing a video on the about to release rotary Mazda grp3 car if you have time.
@@adriangarnham6084 It's all good we're all allowed our own opinions, that's the beauty of the internet :)! I personally think it's fair from my perspective because PCars2 the other main game I played didn't support it which would mean other games that potentially people might want to play won't work it either.
As I say it's all good opinions can differ, it's why I love comments like yours because it allows people to read them after the review :)!
Haha ye I didn't do any practice so R8 it was. I could have got pole if I'd have practised with it, although I'd have still gone backwards due to the OP speed of the GTR :(
Love my tgt and mod after the disastrous t300
My TGT has been in backorder since February; ended up purchasing the Elite (Plus other goodies also in back order) and got those a week ago. I’m a Playstation / GT hardcore fan, but after all the reviews and feedback going around Im kinda deflated. The only reason why I heave not cancelled the order is because Fanatec said they cant guarantee their products will work with PS5... 🤷🏻♂️
No wheel manufacturer at this moment in time can guarantee any of their wheels to be supported on the PS5. All has to be programmed etc
I think that a simple USB A to USB C converter is in order, the data leads are backward compatible.
If you are only a GT fan go with the T-GT, what Tidgney didn’t explain to well is that the wheel inputs are really smooth, and is comparing a T300 to a T-GT they are worlds apart. I would personally love to test a Fanatic for a month for a comparison.
You got me scared to order one lol my t80 just came and for my first wheel since ps2 no feedback just a rubber band 😅 really resistant but nothing compared to any force feed back I've felt from racing sims inside arcades and such .
Good review Tidge, I've used the wheel a lot on iracing and it's a decent wheel for it. On ACC (PC) the FFB is really impressive, quite similar sensations to GTS in my opinion (minus the rumble feature of course.)
I find the issues with the rotating dials is present on all games, it's not just a GTS thing, IMO the notches on the dials input are too close together, other than that I've really enjoyed using it (and still do).
Stevie! Been awhile! Good to hear it works well on other games if I venture over :P! Interesting to hear that the dials are still dubious on other games to!
Thrustmaster seems to forget quality and long term reliability in their products unfortunately. Great product for a little while. My Logitech g29 still going strong years later with no issues. “Less Force feedback and mandatory brake load cell mod”
Reflecting on this now, would you say the new Fanatec DD pro is on par, better, worse for the quality/price?
I suspect it'll be better than the T-GT. We'll have to see though to be sure.
2 months rolled in Dirt 2.0. Now it's time for my T-Gt to landfill
The brake mod isn’t needed because it’s impossible to lock up in GTS.
I assumed they had stopped making these, harder to find than hens teeth !
IKR! It's so damn rare
Have you tried a Direct Drive wheel? I'd love to know how the FF compares in GT Sport with this and say a Fanatec DD1. I don't know anyone that has a DD wheel so can't just go test one anywhere.
DD wheels are a different class and cant be compared. I had a TS-PC and switched to a DD1. FFB is much stronger (ofc), (more) consintent and it is much smoother because there is no belt. You just feel all the game is able to offer.
I haven't tried one yet. Fanatec did invite me awhile back to go out to the test but it was a BIG fia weekend so I couldn't go. Maybe in the future :).
like to know why yours is smooth to turn. When I turn mine, i can feel the cogs in the back turning
Hmmmm, I don't actually know the answer to that!
Mine is smooth as silk. Maybe You got a dud?!
Could have something to do with belt tension. I know my ts pc racer has become smoother over time until i noticed the ffb had become a lot less precise. i opened up the wheel and the belts had loads of slob. Tightened them and fixed the issue but the coggy feeling came back.
your not alone, the TGT is not as smooth as the t300rs, i went from a t300 to a TGT and its 100 percent not as smooth, its faster, stronger and better in every other way but you can certainly feel cogging, its not cogging like logitech g29 cogging though its smoother than that.
@@jinx20001 Also my ts pc runs smooth af when unplugged 😅
Please do a review on T500RS and the ADD On. There's barely any on internet probably because it's such an old wheel (PS3 days). i found out after i bought it. Should have bought T300 but i love the T500 pedals.
I now understand the menu input behaving odd and moving left. i thought it was my PS4 controller. Thanks.
I don't have a T500RS, unless I can grab one for free I can't do a review on it unfortunately :(!
@@tidgney no issues man.thanks for the reply.
Hi! Thanks for the video. I have a problem with my t-gt in gt sport. When I use the wheel for about 20 minutes I loose the force feedback and the feeling is the tyres burn way faster than other cars.What could be the reason? Thanks and sorry for my english
Hello! Sounds like it's overheating, is the fan working, you should be able to hear it? May be best to contact customer support!
@@tidgney thank you!
I am not joking. In the span of a few days after this review, two of the tiny screws on my T-GT had fallen out. Then, my brake spring snapped in half. The only reason I bought the T-GT was to better prepare for the World Tours. That's it. Yes, it's an upgrade over my old G29 but I kept it because I was aware Thrustmaster reliability was suspect.
If you insist on buying a T-GT, expect something to fail within the first three years of ownership.
It's like it heard the review lol.
My T300 wheel base loses feedback force if I play for longer than 30 minutes. I tried adding an extra fan and it does help but does not eliminate the problem. I wait for the motor to cool down and it's back to full strength until it gets hot.
I covered that in my T300 one. They need an upgraded fan in the T300. Something you can do if you haven't already is make sure the fan instantly starts as its originally programmed only to come on when hot. If it starts straight off should give you longer playing time.
Has a function to run fan as soon as you turn it on. Hold down option button and at the same time pressing mode button for 3 to 4 secs once light flashes twice it will be in forced fan mode and will run all the time. Have had no issues since.
Turn down the ffb until you don’t get heat. You should be able to race hours with no heat or fade. GT sport won’t tell you when you’re clipping if that’s what you’re playing.
No problems with buttons/dials "not behaving" after one year of intense use over here, however, my T-GT wheel gets stuck on the left side when self calibrating after turning it on (I have to push it in order to complete the process, it seems to be a misalignment of the internal sensor) and the break pedal makes some "click" noise when pressing hard. I wrote on these issues to Thrustmasters last week, no response yet.
Updating the firmware will fix the stuck wheel.
@@bigredracingteam9642 OK, I'll try that, thanks!
Well you want a heavy break because not all games require you to go to 100% break. Like when I use it for iracing if I hit more than 80% in a gte car I will lock all 4 tyres. Driving without abs with a soft break is super hard to be consistent :p
I mentioned in another comment that does depend on the person though. I much prefer to judge distance over pressure. I think the perfect pedals would be FFB pedals though with Pressure :).
Thanks for the 2 year review! I've had my T-GT for 2.5 years now. The front screws started coming off in a relatively short time of use (I lost one of the screws!) - In a race last night it kept juping to the screenshot menu. changing views on its own... a mess! - One big issue that my wheel now has a very bad wobble issue. I removed it from the servo and not sure how I can remove the back of it. I heard and it seems that is just glued to the wheel. - I tried to read some of the comments but did not find similar issues... anyone knows how I can remove the back of the wheel that attaches to the servo motor? ... Thanks
I'm not to sure how to remove that bit. I suspect you'd need to remove all the screws on the front and then it would get you in maybe? Not something I've tried though :( and be really careful about doing that!
@@tidgney thank you!
should've serviced it regularly
@@EazyDuz18 sounds like you never had to deal with Thrustmaster tech support
@@odiesback in the UK they're great, depends on location
You would think with how much people hate the logo on the wheel they would of changed it for the tgt2 but they didn't but they are selling the base by itself and I will be buying it and yes the ffb is very strong so idk what you are saying? Mabye open the back and check the wires wires have a habbit of popping out a little losing a bit of power your wheel should be very strong it's absolutely the strongest base they sell and it has damn good force feedback lol the tgt1 that is and the tgt2 will also I mean its over 6 nm the cswv2.5 is only 7.1nm and imo the tgt felt as strong when I used it snd yes that's strong considering the new dd wheel by fnastec is 5nm and 8 nm with the boost lol plenty strong enough also I wouldn't use the wheel rim it comes with which I won't be worried about how the rim is lol
My T-GT steering wheel stopped doing the initial check and the control panel doesn't recognize any of the buttons. The steering wheel does not rotate and moves by itself only a few degrees from side to side. I have already performed all the procedures on the support page but the problem has not been resolved. This has happened before and I just restarted the computer twice and the steering wheel returned to normal operation. But now I did several reboots, uninstalled the driver, reinstalled again, without a solution. does anyone know a solution to this problem?
Can you contact Thrustmaster? Support is usually helpful :D!
About it being supported by other titles, I guess it being an official gran turismo wheel base, competitors like projects cars wouldn't like that I guess. So yeah better off using a t300
Regarding the brake mod, BBJ Racing released a newer version of their own one called the 'Universal Brake Mod' and it's fantastic for just £15, gives real progression to the brake, rather than just a shorter brake travel distance or 'throw', which is all the Thrustmaster version does really.
Worth knowing that they don't work on GT Sport which is really annoying...PD should have patched this in ages ago.
Brilliant comment thanks for posting this, may help for PC users!
It is my beleif that the t3pa peddals recalibrate everytime.they are turned back on. Turn them on and hit the peddal really hard and acheiving 100% braking will be hard the rest of the day. Turn them on and use less braking for a few seconds and 100% braking will be eaiser for the rest of the day. I used the rubber mod and would just barely press the brake into the mod and it would register full after a few seconds. Then 100% braking was easy. Was hard for me to come out slowly thouhg. Dropping progressively to 80% then 60percent then 40 was difficult. It would just drop to 40% and i would get understeere as the front would rise to fast. So i had to brake earlier. I have the tlcm now and i have shaved .1%- 1.1% spa was a hard one for me cuz that track amplified my provlem for 2+ minutes. Got a 2.41.5 recently in the supra. Astounding gain for me
4:45 as far as I'm aware you can only use those dials in gt sport, so not sure what other games your referring to as they shouldn't work?
They definitely do work, I use them in ACC and iRacing :)!
gobshite xD
@@tidgney on ps5?
**disclaimer** no cats were harmed in the making of this video 😂
Only for the gt superstars. Got the t300rs gt myself for half the price (339€) combined with a playseat alcantara. Problem with that combination is that right in front of the brake pedal there's a stand for your wheel. My solution for that is combining the clutch and brake with a piece of wood and left foot braking. My wheel also has ps3 support but its terrible compared to my g25. Just like your t-gt is crappy on other games. Big question is will ps5 support older wheels. Yes and no, playable but not that great. New console generation, new wheel.
Just a note: i recently got a T300 GT Edition and the pedals look like your new T-GT ones. Maybe they just changed the design over the years.
There is diffrent kits for T300. Depends what you buy you get diffrent pedals.
Thats the t300rs gt
I've had a thurstmaster t150 for 3 years use it nearly every day 0 problems
That's good going that is! Never used the T150 so not fully sure what it's like to be honest!
I had a T150 before moving to the TGT and it is a major step up. Especially in GT Sport.
Has any got a T-gt 2 and had any issues with that
I don't have the T-GT2 so can't say, I suspect it will be similar though.
I’m sure this will be the same with all products, but the T-GT leather is soft and wear badly.
What Thrustmaster does not explain in the manual is (but on the phone and emails,they recommend leather milk), the wheel needs conditioning with leather cleaner (my cleaner of choice was Turtle wax lux leather conditioner £5), and yes I can report that my wheel is in the same condition as first opened, after 14 months of use. Just apply when finished the game, this is my second wheel, as I complained that my car wheel does not wear after 11months and got a replacement.
Tidgney is correct £500 is the ceiling price, but In my opinion the CSL fanatic should be this price as well. If you tier the prices lower end wheels avg, low 200, mid 500, high 1000.
If I was doing it all again, it would be a toss of a coin between the T-GT and Fanatic. But only at my price structure is applied.
In all honesty. Don’t buy a leather item if you can’t care for it.
Like taking your car to a mechanic having never changed the oil
@@dylanzrim1011 it would be nice to say about wheel rim care in the manual.
i know when buying a car "ref oil", servicing is stated within the manual.
What FFB settings do you use on GT?
3 and 4 are my settings :).
This video makes me want to spend my money I'm still on controller I do enjoy it with a controller but have brought 4 in 2 years that's 200 quid maybe soon
TGL Vegas45 thrustmaster TMX or T150 Pro will do you for years. 100% recommend it.
Can the dials be assigned in games other than gran turismo?
Yes!
Interesting, as f1 has loads of stuff to tinker… many thanks
I'm totally confused by the brake mod. Yeah, it's stiffer, but there is travel before you hit the mod. So it's like nothing and weak, and then bang, you hit the mod. I much prefer a squash ball. It feels more like a real brake than any other mod I've found. Regardless, the T3PA's are the weak link in this kit. The T-GT with the new T-LCM load cell pedals would be a nice combo.
The mod is adjustable. You can bump it up against the pedal and then some for zero pedal travel play.
@@pwsmanowar ahh right ok. but then how do you brake accurately? I've never driven a race car, but no car I've ever driven has basically zero travel in the brakes. It seems like that would be hard to race with.
@@spizzlo Braking accurately depends on the car. With the conical brake mod, you can set the distance to when it engages. If you're simulating F1 style brakes, you set it right up against the brake. Real F1 brakes barely move at all and need extreme pressure from the driver to actuate. If you're not reaching 100% in calibration on a flimsy rig, back of the distance. Having zero resistance is as inaccurate to real life as you can get - and it makes it harder to drive the car.
@@pwsmanowar Right ok. So it sounds like a good solution for F1 style cars. When you say that having zero resistance is inaccurate, do you mean just the standard brake with no mod? If so, that's why I like the squash ball. You get travel and it feels much more like a real brake. Not F1 brakes, but brakes as I know them.
@@spizzlo id say the squash ball is better than nothing. Does it get progressively harder to push the brake as you increase travel distance? That's the benefit of the brake mod.
I'd have thought TS-PC or TS-XW settings would've been better for the T-GT on PC2. They are much more similar internally with the T-GT than T300 or T500. T-GT is an upgraded TS-PC, not T300.
T300rs instructions say that ps3 will recognise as a 500.
TGT, is basically t300 with a few extra steps
@@dylanzrim1011 it's actually more like a TS-PC. It's more powerful than T300.
Shame really, because i want to stay with thrustmaster but there isn't really an upgrade from the t300 atm (i use pc and ps4 and play acc not gt on ps4) so is a waste given tgt price. I really don't want to change to fanatec because i am used to this, i love my tlcm pedals and i love my open wheel add on, i just need thrusmaster to realise a better base that works with all the wheels and sell it on it's own! I can dream! Until then i'll the t300 isn't so bad...
What is that open wheel add-on? Are you still happy with T-300 and is it working well?
Do you know if the t500rs wheel would fit on the tgt wheel base .
Good question, don't know the answer either :O!
@@tidgney ok thanks dude ,might give it a bash and see if it works ?
It is possible but makes no sense, because the T500RS has it's shift pedals mounted on the base. So u can use the T500RS wheel on the t-gt base, but u can't shift
(Sorry for my bad english)
@@lombabeidl9656 oh yeah forgot about that ,Doh.
Damn I didn’t realise how expensive wheels were 😖😖😖.
Mike Walker depends on if you're the kind of person who buys brand new sealed box or the kind who buys still brand new used box for a fraction on price. My favorite deals are the parents selling their piece of shit child's electronics because they are brats and don't use it. Just picked up a brand new Nintendo switch for $100
600 800$
All this money spent and they still don’t add a shifter
csl elite it is then
I just want the wheel for the joy sticks and nobs...🙄 Too bad there aren't any other options with this many buttons for Playstation.
my TGT isnt that smooth when compared directly to a t300... its smoother than any logitech wheel but certainly not as smooth as a t300, you can certainly feel the cogs and you can hear them aswell, when you steer left to right quickly. i can only imagine the reason being they used different belts with larger teeth in order to deal with the increase in torque feedback you get over a t300rs. its certainly not an issue when the wheel is in use but its noticeable coming from a t300rs.... certainly a whole lot smoother than logitech wheels which are very notchy.
That's really weird as mine is much smoother than any t300. Pretty bizarre to be honest, maybe something in quality control or maybe parts changed over time I'm not 100% sure.
@@tidgney yeh that is super weird, its so weird in fact I feel like I should return it for another but I have been into a local shop of mine called the box where they have one on display to test and it feels exactly like mine so im inclined to think its pretty normal that theres some notchiness.
I will have to dig deeper now because my tgt isn't as smooth as my t300 was for certain.
Never had a single issue with my T-GT to be honest No grindy feelings, no dial issues, no leather stiching coming loose, nothing.
I can't say anything about the pedals as never used the ones that come with the wheel. But, just from a wheel/servo perspective I've been very happy with it.
I do agree it's pricey though. This is probably the biggest downside to it. Like you I paid £500. I feel if it was around £100 cheaper it would be more appealing.
Bingo, I think £400 they'd have had a lot more sales!
What a rip off! You cant have fundamental design and quality issues like that at the price. Good review.
£500 for tgt wtf . It’s there flagship wheel right ? I have one and love it
Ye it's their flagship, minus the pedals of course as they do have better ones.
why don't you tell us the name of the game you were playing in the review ?
It's a Gran Turismo wheel, and at the time I was competing in the live events. At the time everyone knew what game it was.
No sim racing rigs available right now and the price to TGT is way overpriced now wait till after covid19 is over
Fanatec have kept their prices steady though stock is a bit all over the shop
Moi j'ai changé le volant trop vilain
Hey Tidgney if you'd like to sell one, I'm in the market for one. Going to treat myself for making DR A. I'm not far from you.
I'm not allowed to sell the Thrustmaster one they sent me. If I ever get another I can sell I'll let you know :).
@@tidgney No worries bud. Was worth a punt.
€700+ for a wheel where the stichting will come loose... nah I'll stick with my G29...
The human body does a better job at remembering pressure than distance. Most sims you aren’t braking at 100% as in a formula or prototype you’d lock your brakes as soon as aero load decreased. I’m typically braking no more than 35-70%. Guess it’s just way easier to 100% brake everywhere in GT Sport.
That depends, there's some people who much prefer distance (Few iRacing pros use distance pedals over load cells). I'm one of those poeple to be fair but as I say it varies from person to person. But the human body is usually better at remembering pressure yes :).
idk why you would buy this wheel when you could get a fanatec csl elite wheel, base and lc pedal kit for a few hundred bucks less.... a better base and pedals and still a good wheel for less. hMmMmmmMMMmMmm
Sorry to differ with you sir but in the uk at the moment, you can get a tgt, pedals and th8a shifter (which would be a must for me) for €900 or less on amazon/e bay. The equivalent fanatec clubsport set up is €2600! And the cheaper elite is around €1700. Where do people get the impression that fanatec is cheaper? According to various sources, the tgt is as powerful as a clubsport if not as smooth but the transducer that makes your wheelstand rumble in gts psvr sounds interesting. As an upgrade from my g29 the tgt is financially feasible (although still a rip off given the current circumstances)and the pedals and shifter can be modified relatively cheaply to give a satisfactory performance. The fanatec equipment is, unfortunately, way out of most peoples price range.
kevin harkness kevin harkness oh wow, that price different is insane. I guess I was a bit closed minded thinking that all the prices were the same all around the world. Now hearing that and the incredible price difference, I must have been looking at either a massive sale or a really dodgy website haha. I apologise for being a little arrogant. Cheers for telling me.
@@fastandunstable6378 No problem man. I got a shock when i checked the fanatec prices online! I thought i could buy an elite cheaper than the tgt due to people on the utube comments sections saying that it was a real bargain. The price fluctuations are crazy at the moment as i recently saw that the cheapest tgt on amazon is now €999! I spotted a used, refurbished and tested tgt on ebay yesterday for €459 by a respected seller which means i can get the wheel, pedals and th8a shifter for a little over €600. I'm taking a helluva chance but its time to upgrade from my trusty g29 and get better lap times in mario carts! Cheers.
If they sent you one, there's still bias. Like, your logic is kinda shaky there, dude
700, got a g920 for Xbox and pc it’s perfect and about 500 quid cheaper lol
12:00 How much this was abused to get to that state?? Anyway I owned T-GT II for 2.7 years and it just died. Rarelly used but still died!
It's not really abused, and I've had 3 of them now