Should you buy a Thinkpad T440p in 2019?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 มิ.ย. 2019
- Is buying a 6-year old laptop in 2019 a good idea? In this video I'm going to try to answer this question.
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💧Removing WiFi Whitelist on Thinkpad T440p - Tutorial: th-cam.com/video/eIQYJWcc_-k/w-d-xo.html
🔥macOS Mojave on Thinkpad T440p - Tutorial: th-cam.com/video/XcOFR3y1m2s/w-d-xo.html
❄️ My experience with Coreboot: th-cam.com/video/9sSbFufySJk/w-d-xo.html
🍉 Turning X220 into X230 - The Ultimate Frankenpad!: th-cam.com/video/g4lC1DVXtSg/w-d-xo.html
Bruh where you find 9 cell battery for 30 euro?
So you were a fat bearded guy once?
I don't get it...
"You can use it outside in the sun and still see your screen" a problem linux users have never faced before :p
Love your channel btw thank you for the quality content and all the stuff I have learnt:)
Can it play dota2 and nba2k20?
@@romzdelacerna5004 not that linux users would exactly care about gaming, otherwise they would have installed windows.
@@jeremybcenteno actually gaming on linux is progressing at an incredible rate, with proton you can play a very large amount of steam games on linux
thank you
I bought a X230 in great condition a few weeks ago and it is still a great machine for every day tasks and for playing older RTS-Games. It just depends what do you wanna do with older Thinkpads. I think the T440p is a great machine even in 2020 ;)
Hey, I became unemploy due to Covid19.I m very poor although. Wanna work online but have no Pc or Laptop.i have only 50-100$. can u help me to get a T450s please??
Love thiccpads. I have a P50, myself. Having the added heft in the base of the laptop does improve the typing experience because it feels more solid in your lap. I don't get the same stability when typing on an X1 Carbon 6th gen. Build quality is definitely better in the X1C, with keys that are more tactile, springy, and don't wobble like the P50, but P50 has superior weight and travel distance.
Got a perfect T440p with 8gb ram , 120gb SSD, and 92% battery health, with charger for $145
Very nice deal
where?
Wheree??!!!
@@noelvalencia4025 Ebay
Miguel C thanks!!
Very Professional Video ! ...you deserve way more subs....keep It up
I'd really like to see a video of you benchmarking this thing!
I love your videos and your humbleness about being afraid of some of the same things of ism I'll buy an t440p soon.. :)
Thanks for all of the detail and recommendations. I've got a T440p with a deluxe docking station and I'm super happy with it. I'm running Windows 10 [upgraded with the Insiders Program] and am able to power my Software Development tools with WSL2 [Windows Subsystem for Linux 2nd Edition] with Ubuntu LTS. There are videos available on this setup and I plan on making some when I get settled in on how to do so. I'm opting to keep Windows because I prefer much of Adobe software for my photography business, and just don't want to add complexity to my life with multiple OSs. I may switch my T420 with Windows 7 to a Linux Distro though as Windows 7 is no longer supported.
Louis Roussman once showed another benefit of a T440 over later models. Since the T450 the batteries cannot go beyond the back end, because of the hinges that make the laptop thinner. If you take a bigger battery it gives you something to hold the laptop while it's open and that way you can actually work on it while you are on a walk. Also the newer style of hinges seems to break more often, but that might only count for macbooks. Had I known that I can replace the clickpad, I would have gotten a T440. But I'm still happy with my T450s
Also I totally understand your pain in welding
My first laptop was a Thinkpad 600E, I loved her! Just bought a T440s, I needed a cheap laptop for school.
Then i gotta say youve made a really good decision. Beware of firmware problems though
Got a t440p today. Was not expecting it to be this good!
I am shocked at how this thing works so well... WTF
Mine works horribly
7:09 hurt me personally
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Congratulations, you have a good channel, very useful. I bought a t440p in 2019 (ho-ho-ho).Thank you very much for all the information.
I declare myself with envy! :D
Congratulations!
Thank you :)
Now, august 2022, my T440p is still my main machine, and still really happy with it.
Bought used laptop & followed pretty much you guide, upgraded LCD to 1080p, mem to 2x8GB 1866, CPU to i7-4900MQ, 450 trackpad, SSD, whitelisted the BIOS.
Working with my T440p is a pleasure
Thx again for posting your research 3 years ago.
👍👍👍
Wait so can the processor be upgraded?
@@et3rnal_pain YES!
Here's the list of CPU's (and hardware) that it can use. :www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T440p
Enjoy
@@claudews529 thanks bro
Absolutely!!! Just got mine!
OH BOY THIS TITLE OMG U GUYS LOVE IT DEEP
What do you mean 'deep'? Are you referring to what I think you are referring to? ~//~
I would love to see x200 project! That laptop looks good. I am still rocking on i7 x230 with coreboot. I actually got excited about coreboot through your videos. I am very grateful for finding that option for BIOS. Thank you and have fun with new laptop.
Thank you for the support :)
I’ve owned a couple of these over a couple of years now. The first one I had, I accidentally snapped one of the latches for the touchpad ribbon, preventing me from connecting one to the main board. I decided to pick up another and found one on eBay for £130! This had an i3 CPU, but the beauty of this laptop is the socketed CPU. Upgraded to an i7 with 16GB RAM, 480GB ssd and a 1080p IPS display for less than £200. If you look at the build quality and specs of a modern laptop at £330 (the most I would have payed the the laptop + upgrades) they don’t come close. I’ve not used a brand new laptop that feels this solid in years. They just don’t make them like this any more. Most of the things you’d want to upgrade are under the bottom cover which takes 2 screws to remove. I’d take a half inch extra thickness for this any day. Its better than having to use a spudger to pop snaps out of place to upgrade your ram, risking affecting the way the case fits together permanently. This hardware plays nicely with linux out of the box too, a massive bonus. I hope in the future lenovo can appreciate why people like these older models and what makes them the “engineers” laptop, and wake up to the fact that its the product which is truly great, not the aesthetic and brand
Gutes Video Wolfgang, danke dir.
Love my T440p.... got it a couple of years ago for $200, 500GB HD, 8G of Ram... running Win 7. Now 500g SSD, 18G of Ram. I have an Ideapad 720, an X201, X240, and a new T470, but my T440p (running Fedora... or Kali) is my daily driver. :) Combined with a docking station, it is pretty much all I need. The 40A1 Pro dock is compatible with the T440 and the X240, and quite a few others. I got mine for #20 USD off fleaBay.
Went for a T550 a couple of months ago, really happy with it (except for the display, i gotta change that).
Watching from my T440s. ^.^
How do you love you T440s?
@@dorsey4t Not the OP, but I'm using a 440s, too, and it's great EXCEPT the screen. The screen sucks, it's glossy has weird ghosting issues.
@@dorsey4t I love mine. I am running Linux Mint on it. My Screen does not have any ghosting issues.
@@ThePressurizer I think the first batch of the T440s had LG panels, which are appearently way worse than the AUO panels most T440s have. Maybe you're unlucky and have an LG panel (or you just got randomly got a bad panel). The FHD IPS on my T440S is fine
I have a T440s and love it. Mine is FHD with the matte screen.
excellent! FYI, this has been added to the coreboot supported ones, which makes it a really good option
Watching this on my T440s :)
Rocking the ThinkPad T480 from the T410.
if you are still using bspwm i'd love to see a video about you config/workflow
Great video!
Hi Wolfgang, Goodness me, what a wealth of knowledge you are sending out to us participating TH-camr's and Lenovo enthusiasts. Time for me to replace my T440s and currently looking at the P53. Could you perhaps advise me on the display options? I am torn between the 500nits panel and the OLED display. Thanks Wolf.
Bought a second-hand 4th gen Thinkpad and using it for a week now. Upgraded the RAM and still no issues. Superfast laptop.
I needed a laptop for school for dev purposes so I knew I didn't need anything very fancy or powerful. Saw that I could nab one of these on ebay for $80 without a hard drive. Popped an SSD in there and installed Manjaro and I'm very happy with it as is. I don't really get your problems with the trackpad, not the greatest in the world but it's fine, it's functional. Honestly, while you say this is for the tinkerer I think it's just great for more casual users as well or people who just need a cheap, solid machine.
the trackpad is only garbage if you try to use the trackpoint, the older models had dedicated buttons for the trackpoint, bow you have to use the top of the trackpad for those buttons, so it becomes a frustrating experience where you constantly misclick
Sounds awesome. Thank you. I will defoe look at it and consider it for my next series on TH-cam.
Very nice now have to find one
Hello Wolfgang, I consider changing the screen of my X200S ThinkPad and would appreciate your thoughts on this. Do you think it makes sense? The reason why I haven't done it already is because I don't know where to buy a proper screen. There are offers from China on eBay but I don't know what to expect from those screens.
Thank you for your ideas in advance! Pat
2:37 E X T R A T H I C C 👌
I got the larger T530 and I am quite happy with it. I was a bit unsure about the chicklet keyboard but I was pleasantly surprised. Not as nice as the old IBM style ones but much much better then other chicklet keyboards. Just because the keyboard now looks the same as other brands it is still better and has very good feedback. Unlike my old mac keyboard which has zero travel.
ty for your vids, they are awesome
You're welcome!
I have I5 t440p amazing performance and I can even play games like GTAV and fifa 17 etc. Just upgraded the ram.
Good one! Congratulation! I got one!
I have some questions:
. Do you know a good configuration in parameter to undervolt one i7-4810MQ? Or any link?
. Do you know if it possible to undervolt RAM?
Thank you for sharing and really good job.
Yeah sure i will buy it in 2020.. i've already had t420.. it is great.. but after watching your video i think i will buy it.. thanks bro.. great job..
Good information. Thank you, Irish David Spade.
B-but I'm not Irish...
I bought a used one off ebay for $90. Upgraded ram, screen, processor and trackpad. It was a fun project and have been using it for a year now. Love this thing. I went with the i7-4710MQ
Wait so the processor on the LENOVO THINKPAD T440P can be upgraded?
@@et3rnal_pain yup. Do the research. Typing from a t440p.
@@et3rnal_painWait, you haven't watched the video?
Watching on my T 430s which I love.
Same here
can it run minecraft java
We are still running multiple ones at work, because of how modular and serviceable they are, and I myself work on a T560. (That one has the ventilation on the other side of the control thingy of the docking station). I think you can actually still use external GPUs by taking out the LTE card
This is so good!! :)
I have had a Thinkpad x230 from 2012 running Debian as my daily driver throughout university and beyond, ran me $80 plus a $90 new battery. Sold my 2015 MacBook Pro afterwards, kept the $600 and haven't reconsidered
I got the I7 4870hq, it worked out of the box and the Intel Iris is really nice. :)
That one from taobao ?
@@seva809 Yep, there are several sellers on taobao.
Don't tempt me hahahaha
Link, please.
@@levi990e Can you please get a link ?
For me that never click on the trackpad, just tap to click the track pad on this pc is a fantastic idea and I love it.
I got X1 Carbon with an i5 5200u for about 300€ on eBay. Honestly, it's the best laptop I've ever had wich 3 years prior cost like 1500+€. The screen is glossy and the colours aren't accurate, but 1440p res, 8gb of ram and solid 4-7 hours of battery life. I only use my notebook when being on the go and therefore I don't need much power and a thick&heavy wouldn't fit in my backpack as well. But if weight and size aren't a problem I'd pick up one as well.
I used to have a T500 with 2, maybe 3 hours of battery life max. I used it for school and couldn't really use it all day due to the battery life. It was also super heavy and the screen was awful. The T440 might have a much better screen and maybe better battery life but it's still heavy and new Laptops are honestly better for a lot of things.
Fun fact: You only have to go up slightly in price to match the Haswell quad cores and those are at half the TDP and you get a way slimmer machine. Not every new Laptop is a Macbook.
me and my daily driver T430 always love to see some thinkpad fans
I just bought a T440p for 50USD. Excited!
woah, nice!
Where? I was hunting for t440p on ebay and got one three days ago for $50, but I didn't see anything that low 6 days ago.
@@gaylord7327 got one for 30 bucks, with broken screen and no SSD. But was planning to change those anyway so was a bargain.
Check best offers for cheaper prices
@@araa5184 nice! If I saw that one I would've snagged
$50 HOW
Bought this laptop when this video came out. I really like it, a very good laptop, I smell the quality and the solidity of the product.
i5-4300m, I upgraded ram, now I have 16gb of ram, I run minecraft bedrock edition on max settings even with 8g of ram without any drop in fps.
I got a W510 with i7 920XM and want to upgrade(in a budget) this is a great video T440p sounds amazing what do you think about T540?
just got a used T460s and enjoy it ;)
thank you for all inf
Hi Wolfgang, what do you think about the i7 P51? I want to get something for music production, +30 channels 44.1 24bit
I currently have the W530 but it is kind of getting a bit old and I have problems with some apps not running correctly, mostly visually, however the W530 is i7 2,6ghz
Please do a tutorial on how to upgrade the trackpad! I've heard a lot of stuff about how messy it is (driver wise).
Also, to anyone here dealing with slow 1080p60fps youtube videos or suffering from framedrops, use the h264ify plug-in on chrome or firefox, saddly, the I5 that comes with the t440p is not supported by the newer codec youtube is using (vp9) and does not support propper hardware acceleration.
solution: use the trackpoint, bozo
I bought the T440P in 2021 :c
i love my t440p , recently it gained coreboot support so thats pretty good
I.came here Cuz I buy it for 120€ yesterday and.... wow. Now im in hackintosh part hehe. You have a new.subscriber here man. Congratulations
Hi, I am thinking to change the trackpad for my t440p, but I've read from a lot of places saying that never get an Alps trackpad, do u have any issue with your trackpad? P.S. I am using Linux as well, thanks
Is it possible to replace the keyboard with a t420 keyboard? I know that it works with a t430 and it would be nice to know if this works on the t440p
New lap tops are pretty good for compiling a lot of code, or doing a lot of video production. Sometimes that’s worth more than new ports.
I'm leaning towards the E595 because I need a decent CPU and lots of storage, for music production.
Nice content, first time seeing your channel and gonna stay.
One question though: why didn't you place your LEDs under an angle?
Direct light is terrible!
Thanks! Took them down since
Short answer: Yes, T420-T440 are awesome!!!
T420 vs T430: which one would you choose?
is there a way to make the mouse pad less sensitive ?
@@JS-mn5ro T430, like the new design keyboard with backlighting more
@@ivwoc windows setting is your friend
I would love to have a t540p instead, because lack of the ten keys is a big bummer for me and I don't really mind the extra heft that would bring. They are more expensive though and I wonder how much worse battery life I would be looking at with one.
running linux Debian and mint on a T460 (got off e-bay) love it
I have e440 with i7 4702mq, nice but not robust as 440p
Love me a vintage ThinkPad - still have an x220 - but you can get at T480 for increasingly good prices these days
Posting this from my T440p with all upgrades: i7-4702MQ, FHD panel, and 3 buttons trackpad. Awesome notebook, best money spent ever. Thanks to your channel, Sebi's channel and this guide octoperf.com/blog/2018/11/07/thinkpad-t440p-buyers-guide/ I've managed to have my own Thinkpad.
Started with X200s, then X220, X230 and now T440p.
I have a HP Probook with the core i7-4702MQ and it's a beast. 4600 single core and 12k multi core on Geekbench.
If you want the CPU for cheap there are seller on eBay selling them used.
But it sure is expensive compared to other options
I got myself a x270 and put a 1080 IPS screen in it with a 512 GB SSD and it's been my daily driver for a while now.
Great Buy in 2019!
i just bought a 440s (reused) and its very nice notebook
I got asus n53sv (i5-2410m, 4gb, 500gb ssd, 1366x768) from 2011 (9 y.o.) running linux. If there where a decent battery.. or just leave it like portable desktop or server.
Thinking about an ultrabook like x395 thinkpad.
“Chinese cartoons”
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IS JAPANEEEESE! >:O
.. baka
@@Fiskie666 r/wooooooosh
@@dr.s.b.3461 woodshed hard
U R being a provocateur...
I'm offended tbh
Wow I have this same exact laptop but with lots of upgraded parts
your vids are great! love to see your opening bumper
i have a question:
i planned to buy between x230 or t440p for my daily task as i worked as a football writer which mainly working outdoor or coffeshop to coffeeshop. but i'm doubt with t440p heaviness.
the main cons of t440p are upgradable cpu and newer intel hd as i play light games such football manager 19 for my daily recreational purpose lol
i just curious with your experience so far with t440p comparable to your ex franken x230
and what your suggestion for me (if u would help)
thanks! danke
t440p is by no means thin and light, but I don't have any problems carrying it around (and i'm definitely not a ripped alpha chad lol). Wouldn't want to take it to a vacation or a weekend-Ausflug, though.
@@WolfgangsChannel after 1 month intense search of x230 and t430, i'm finally cop a t440p after watching your video lol
it priced about 190 euro (converted to Indonesian Rupiah), and i'm very happy because that's under usual price for t440p here (mostly above than 200 euros) and i got one with mint condition
it's still feel solid, rugged, and the most important..... it's very thin and light compared to my broken, heavy and crap lenovo g50 lol
keep doin' t440p videos! (i still waiting for my t450 touchpad and samsung ssd to arrive and looking for 1080p display in couple months)
I have a 2012 lenovo thinkpad w520. Its a power house. 4 core I7 2.2ghz turboboost to 3.4ghz, 16gb ram, 240gb SSD, 2 gigs VRAM and has the 9 cell battery that lasts for a LONG time. Running Parrot OS and never had a problem. Thinkpad for life!
I can confirm that this laptop is still very solid in 2019. Bought mine from a small refurbished store about 9 months ago with an i7 4700MQ, 8GB RAM, 240GB SSD, 9-cell battery and 1080p screen for 400 euros. Should I wanted to get a new laptop with similar specs I'd probably pay 2-3 times the amount. I'm so happy with my thicc baby !
P.S The touchpad is trash so I suggest using a mouse.
thicc baby...
How would you say the graphics are? How would simulations or games load?
Just picked up a T450 with i5-5300u, 16GB RAM, and 512GB SSD for $175. The batteries were a bit worn down, but I've replaced the internal and upgraded the external to an 48WH one, now it runs beautifully.
Very nice! How'd you get that deal?
@@WolfgangsChannel Found it on eBay. The exterior case certainly shows signs of wear with some scratches here and there and the finish being worn in the corners, but it was very clean inside and out when it arrived and the SSD still has more than 90% of it's write endurance left (I forget the exact number). Not bad at all in my opinion for a 3-4 year old computer. It even had a clean install of Windows 10 Pro which activated once I connected to the internet, though according to the sticker on the bottom it came with Windows 8, so I guess it was upgraded at some point. I'm planning to buy an m.2 sata SSD next month and put Linux on the second drive.
Good video, sadly you talked me out of buying it, i love the specs but i need something thinner for travel, recommendations?
Unfortunately if you want the same level of performance, you'll have to shell out more money for something newer. U-series processors only recently started to catch up with M-series Haswell CPUs, I would look into the 8th gen Thinkpads in particular.
Try the x series... X250 is great
Nice Channel, greetings from a IBM Lenovo Technican 👍👍😎
Dennis Reitinger nice, I’m currently in 8th grade could you direct me to a thinkpad that is good for school on a budget?
Dennis Reitinger I hear the t440 is good but I was wondering if it would last a long time
You could use an T560 , very stable, enough Power for your use, everythings Changeable easy👌So in your case , you can buy one from a refurber, its way cheaper and its still good! Greetings Dennis
Dennis Reitinger what would be the difference of a refurbished laptop and a regular one I mean they are both from the same company right?
I will do anything for subscribers refurbish means, its a used one. The refurbish center make it optical and software new, thats called refurbish. Im Internet gives a lot of stores Wehre you can buy good Machines for every budget.
Late-gen 2013 MB Pro, still kicking and super awesome, I did pay $3K for it though :(
I used a T440p at work for almost 2 years and it was fantastic, so I bought a used T440s with new battery for $300 and it's just as good, 8GB ram, 240GB SSD, 4th gen i5 cpu etc
Awesome...am on the lookout for a good unit T440p-T470. where can i get a great unit at a god price?
Please share this beautiful wallpaper with us, with the purple mountains one
You can get a used P50 with a serious load out for under 1K. Great for heavy software development and CUDA. Otherwise I would go with a X220 with an i7 that can address 16G (4-6hr battery too). They regularly sell for under $400 and beat the pants off of any modern chrome book. You can get a micro docking station for $15, add a nice monitor and you have a powerful desktop until it dies or you get sick of it. Since they're unkillable it'll probably be the later.
I see you are a man of culture as well..
I used the i7 4910MQ CPU. It works great too. I can play some recent games.
Hi,Ive got one with i5, 16 GB RAM, 256 GB SSD, 1 TB HDD in optical mech. WIN10 Pro,90% battery life, brand new Lenovo charger. Thats for 250 EURO.Its fast like soaped lightning.Very nice physical condition. Im fully satisfied:-) Plan to set i7 and also SSD M.2 :-)
So if the WiFi doesn’t work as a hackintosh can you use a usb WiFi dongle instead?
4:45 For the X1 Carbon.
I love mine it works so well and is easy to upgrade and clean I would not change it but would like to change the screen as mine is a TN display and my wife has a Lenovo T500
i bought it today, yay🤪
Congrats!
It’s December of 2022 and I wanna get one now
You can connect an eGPU to the laptop if it is equipped with a mini pcie slot, like where you would find the wifi card. My t450 actually has an extra one right next to the wifi card. The companies that made eGPU adapters that connected via express card decided to go a different route when the industry stopped making laptops with express card.
This would be somewhat inconvenient since you would either need to drill a hole in the bottom case, or just take it off every time you want to connect an eGPU. Also you'll need to choose between Wi-Fi or eGPU
@@WolfgangsChannel would you rather have it a little inconvenient or rely on intel Hd graphics? Of course, the eGPU would not be a mobile option. As for choosing between WIFI and eGPU, mine has two mini pcie slots, but for the ones that don't, you could use a usb wifi adapter or even ethernet. Good video!
@@criticallycheesycaleb6681 I've only found a few forum threads with no one reporting success. One guy said that he went as far as buying all the equipment, but it didn't work
@@WolfgangsChannel No one reporting success with an eGPU? There are a few TH-cam videos of people successfully connecting an eGPU and playing games with it. I'll link one in a moment.
@@WolfgangsChannel th-cam.com/video/jFWnOJSbHiU/w-d-xo.html
Watching this from my librebooted, Debian T60 (T7200 upgrade) :)
Any stability issues?