This is probably the best technique for getting a deep sharp color fill. For those without sanding equipment, you can hand sand the color off with a hard sanding block. It will take time and you can start at 120 grit since it won't remove material as quickly as a machine. For quick and dirty projects, I use the clear spray before lasering then apply shoe polish over the engraved area. Rubbing alcohol on a paper towel will take the polish and engraving soot off the clear, leaving it in the engraving. The problem with this technique is that the polish can bleed into the grain at the edge of the engraving.
I was looking for the group you linked the video in. I just tried it out. The results were decent. I need to run a second pass like you posted in the video.
Never seen it done this way. I’ve always put a coat or two of gloss polyurethane spray down and did carving, then used a contrasting stain to work in and wiped off. Now that I have an engraver I’ll try your method. Thanks!
I've tried the masking technique but was not able to get a consistent result due to the masking tape lifting after lasering. I like your approach better and will give it a try for sure, thanks for sharing!
I've used 3M Blue painters tape and applied before lasering but you must make sure to cover the all the joints between the tape strips thoroughly before painting. I've also trying spraying the wood with a light coat of laquer before engraving the wood too. Any of these three methods will work but but each has it's pros and cons. With real heavy grained woods like Oak all bets are off!! The paint will run into the grain even if sealed with laquer because of the the depth of the grain. I've never found a satisfactory way to do Oak or similar deep grained woods
Curious as to why you use the heavy body acrylic paint. I'm a beginner and have been using regular (non heavy body) acrylic paint. What advantages do you find in using the heavy body paint?
I'm not sure I understand. But this is for filling an engraving. You fill, then sand. If you want to paint a second color you'll need to practice dry brushing techniques.
could you do one for say an engraving on metal that has been engraved and base painted, with the relief/engraving being painted white on a black background? Would you use non-alchol resistant paint for the engraved areas and wipe away with a cotton alcohol wope?
Thanks Roger. I want to laser engrave some text on a white pine Adirondack chair. Can this method be used if a want paint the letters as you've done, but then stain/seal the wood slat? After applying the sealer to the wood and then sanding it, would 'that' slat accept the stain differently than the other planks of wood which haven't undergone this process. I obviously know nothing about woodworking. ;-0 Thanks!
Can be done easily enough. 1. Engrave the text, 2. Seal it 3-4 times (Pine is porous and needs to be sealed REALLY well to prevent bleeding) 3. Paint fill 4. Sand the top layers down to bare wood and clean the text (I use blown air). 5. Stain to color preference (being mindful not to let the stain dry until you've gotten the desired coloring AFTER cleaning) and then after the stain cures fully, apply your finish. Easy Peasy
One question I have is what if I want the wood stained prior so I could use different color paint? The video states stain after everything, I wonder if I stain, laser cut, lacquer/protective coat x2, paint, and then sand will my original stain be affected? I’ll have to check and try it but any helpful commend are welcomed. Thanks!
Thanks for this video. But this is probably a stupid question. Have you ever tried to use marking spray, the kind that is used on metal. Sorry for the dumb question, but I have a Nova 24 ordered and I do not know anything about lasers. Thanks again.
Hey there, I see you're still replying, thank you. Hopefully I can get some help. I have a board that I want to stain/paint blue. I want the engraved words/lines gold. How do I paint the backer blue? Do I paint then color the engraving gold. Do I color the engraving gold and then paint/stain blue? How do I not ruin my gold? The videos I have seen all finish to a natural wood so I don't know how to color the wood. Thank you again.
@@LifeWithRoger Thank you I had this same questions. I wanted to do this on stained boards, but wasn't sure how to apply it. Great video and very detailed!
Couldn't you just cover the complete board with the clear and seal it really good. Put your paint on and before it dries wipe off the excess leaving paint in the deep engraved areas?
For painting what is the recommended depth? I am very new to this process and i have found that a depth of 10 on my machine seems to be good enough on some of the wood i use. Do i need a deep cut in order to paint?
One of the most useful videos I have watched in a long time. Thanks!
I just starting using your techniques for making my engravings pop. It works. I prefer using lacquer cause it's more forgiving than any other coating.
Up to you. As long as it seals the grain it'll be fine.
Roger this is JUST WHAT I NEEDED! ❤️👍👏
Hope it helps!
Thank for this wonderful tutorial, I will be giving it a go as soon as I can!
How did it work out?
Good Tutorial. Direct and descriptive. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks!
This is probably the best technique for getting a deep sharp color fill. For those without sanding equipment, you can hand sand the color off with a hard sanding block. It will take time and you can start at 120 grit since it won't remove material as quickly as a machine. For quick and dirty projects, I use the clear spray before lasering then apply shoe polish over the engraved area. Rubbing alcohol on a paper towel will take the polish and engraving soot off the clear, leaving it in the engraving. The problem with this technique is that the polish can bleed into the grain at the edge of the engraving.
Liked your technique
Nice work. Looks great.
Super cool technique. I'd never seen seal, then paint, then sand, then seal again. Really nice turnout!
Thanks. It's quick, easy and pretty.
I have had success with this technique on most woods. Good walk through
Looks good! Thanks for the tips
No problem!
I was looking for the group you linked the video in. I just tried it out. The results were decent. I need to run a second pass like you posted in the video.
Awesome video and what if I want to stain after then clear coat will wood stain and clear coat affect the black part.?
No the black is paint
Is there a way to refreshen an engraving that is on a painted metal surface without messing up the painted metal surface adjacent to the engraving?
Some of the newer lasers have camera assist. That's the best way i can think
Never seen it done this way. I’ve always put a coat or two of gloss polyurethane spray down and did carving, then used a contrasting stain to work in and wiped off. Now that I have an engraver I’ll try your method. Thanks!
No worries. There are lots of different techniques out there. This is just one of em. Hope it helps
how long would you recommend letting the sealant dry for? and the paint?
Depends. Follow instructions on the label
I've tried the masking technique but was not able to get a consistent result due to the masking tape lifting after lasering. I like your approach better and will give it a try for sure, thanks for sharing!
I've used 3M Blue painters tape and applied before lasering but you must make sure to cover the all the joints between the tape strips thoroughly before painting. I've also trying spraying the wood with a light coat of laquer before engraving the wood too. Any of these three methods will work but but each has it's pros and cons. With real heavy grained woods like Oak all bets are off!! The paint will run into the grain even if sealed with laquer because of the the depth of the grain. I've never found a satisfactory way to do Oak or similar deep grained woods
So for the second run are you staying at same height or moving down any at all ?
Same height
Curious as to why you use the heavy body acrylic paint. I'm a beginner and have been using regular (non heavy body) acrylic paint. What advantages do you find in using the heavy body paint?
It's thicker and fills better.
Great but that won’t work on day a black background with white in design as you’ll sand off the black. So how do you do it in that situation?
I'm not sure I understand. But this is for filling an engraving. You fill, then sand. If you want to paint a second color you'll need to practice dry brushing techniques.
Great technique, thank you!
I stained my wood with oil based stain prior to engraving, do I still need to apply lacquer or shellac?
Stain doesn't seal the wood
could you do one for say an engraving on metal that has been engraved and base painted, with the relief/engraving being painted white on a black background?
Would you use non-alchol resistant paint for the engraved areas and wipe away with a cotton alcohol wope?
Any idea if this would work with a bamboo cutting board? Great video! Thanks for the info!
It will for sure
great simple tutorial. thank you!
Will this technique work if you have already stained your piece but not applied any finish?
You'll have to sand it back down after filling and stain again before finishing
Thanks Roger. I want to laser engrave some text on a white pine Adirondack chair. Can this method be used if a want paint the letters as you've done, but then stain/seal the wood slat? After applying the sealer to the wood and then sanding it, would 'that' slat accept the stain differently than the other planks of wood which haven't undergone this process. I obviously know nothing about woodworking. ;-0 Thanks!
Can be done easily enough. 1. Engrave the text, 2. Seal it 3-4 times (Pine is porous and needs to be sealed REALLY well to prevent bleeding) 3. Paint fill 4. Sand the top layers down to bare wood and clean the text (I use blown air). 5. Stain to color preference (being mindful not to let the stain dry until you've gotten the desired coloring AFTER cleaning) and then after the stain cures fully, apply your finish. Easy Peasy
@@LifeWithRoger Thank you Sir!!
Will this work for engravings done with a dremel too?
Yep
One question I have is what if I want the wood stained prior so I could use different color paint? The video states stain after everything, I wonder if I stain, laser cut, lacquer/protective coat x2, paint, and then sand will my original stain be affected? I’ll have to check and try it but any helpful commend are welcomed. Thanks!
Yes the original stain will be partially sanded off.
nice very useful
Good technique!
My 20watt laser already does this once I am done with the engraving
Good idea, I've always tried to wipe off but that looks great
Great technique, just curious why not put the lacquer on before engraving, so the the acrylic will adhere directly to the wood within the text?
Lacquer is a finishing step. Putting it on early means you would still have to seal after the engraving or risk paint bleed in the grain.
Thanks for this video. But this is probably a stupid question. Have you ever tried to use marking spray, the kind that is used on metal. Sorry for the dumb question, but I have a Nova 24 ordered and I do not know anything about lasers. Thanks again.
You mean for marking metal? I don't use it but I've seen it done. There are plenty of videos for it.
@@LifeWithRoger thank you, yes the spray probably wouldn't work on wood.
@@joeep46 no need to spray wood. Lasers mark wood directly
Hey there, I see you're still replying, thank you. Hopefully I can get some help. I have a board that I want to stain/paint blue. I want the engraved words/lines gold. How do I paint the backer blue? Do I paint then color the engraving gold. Do I color the engraving gold and then paint/stain blue? How do I not ruin my gold? The videos I have seen all finish to a natural wood so I don't know how to color the wood. Thank you again.
Paint the board blue, then apply masking tape to the whole face, then engrave, carefully paint the engraving, remove tape, apply finish.
@@LifeWithRoger Great reply. That's how's it done
@@LifeWithRoger Thank you I had this same questions. I wanted to do this on stained boards, but wasn't sure how to apply it. Great video and very detailed!
Question? When and where do you apply the Tung oil?
Final step, exterior
I'm working with a porous wood (pine). What would be the final grit sandpaper you would recommend be used before spraying the lacquer on to wood?
240
Great video - thx for sharing. Have you ever tried doing this with end grain - I'm thinking about trying this with a end grain cutting board?
I haven't, but it'll be fine as long as you seal the heck outta the ends to prevent bleed.
Thank you!
Great results. Looks like the laser engraver link is broken. Is it still available on And or anywhere else?
FYI, the cheapest Epilog Laser is listed at eight grand (!) on the company's web site.
Why not cover the board with blue tape, then engrave, rattle can it, than peel?
Too much paint bleed into the fibers. I use blue tape, engrave, then seal before I paint. Less clean up and works great.
remembers me Bob??? Bob Ross?? :-) Nice Video
Tried this. Without a good table sander like you have, this is so slow using a palm sander 🥺 took ages......
Thanks for the video 🙌
Cabinet scraper works a bit faster
Just curious, why don't you seal the wood before you engrave it?
No reason to
Thank you!
Really good idea! Thanks! :) Shame all the items are always American links :( UK based user here
Couldn't you just cover the complete board with the clear and seal it really good. Put your paint on and before it dries wipe off the excess leaving paint in the deep engraved areas?
It won't be as clean unless you fully seal all the grain before you engrave. Even then it may run
I wonder how that would look using acrylic substrate, painting the acrylic sheet first, then engraving and paint fill
With acrylic, engrave, paint, squeegee
Why do you have to spray laquer first instead of just painting it then sanding it
to seal the wood and prevent paint from seeping into the grain.
For painting what is the recommended depth? I am very new to this process and i have found that a depth of 10 on my machine seems to be good enough on some of the wood i use. Do i need a deep cut in order to paint?
Your scale isn't one i use
I find it is easier to cut a little deeper then run through a planer. Smooth and crisp results.
Sounds like Woody Harrelson
Thanks?
@@LifeWithRoger I'm a woody Harrelson fan, so you got me hooked. Good video too ☺️🙏👍
Thank you for the video, very useful...But, the music on the background is also great! Does anybody know title, artist etc? Thank you!
No idea
A J-roller on the paper towel might be better than your hand and let you get even more paint off.
why do you need the first step of the wax why don't just paint directly and then send it??
Because wood has grain and paint will seep into the grain if you don't seal it first.
I'll take mine dabbed, not wiped.
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