"What would Mom think" hit me harder than expected. The whole show Eren keeps his thoughts of revenge based on his Mom. Her death was a robbery of the few forms of kindness and love he had. She died, meaning her gentleness was never corrupted in his mind and ours. He realizes the atrocities he's about to commit. And also realizes his kind Mom would be appalled at the thought her child would become so cruel.
@@remphz3321 Eren’s mom would be disappointed because she would keep telling eren to stay but eren will still do the rumbling, she would blame herself thinking on what she did wrong and if she rises her son right or not
Best Eren scene in the whole series. After seeing how ruthless he is leading up to the rumbling, here's Eren some months or years prior having seen the future, knowing he can do nothing to stop it, and he's horrified of himself. Pretty similarly by how his dad was compelled to do things he was horrified of. This is actually probably the best character moment in the series, and it is so thoroughly earned. Impeccable.
He doesn't do rumbling, because he can't stop the future. He even contemplates other options here, but decides, that he "can't accept things ending this way"
There's a book series that deals with this same type of concept. Dune by Frank Herbert, it got a movie adaptation recently. Well, a NEW adaptation. Anyway, main character in that story learns of a future that he can not avoid no matter what, so he decides to take the rains to bring it to the most optimal out come where the least amount of people will die. And still billions die in HIS, the main character, his name.
@@АлинаКостылева-ф2ч The curse of Ymir is also a big problem. Eren only have 4 years to live, he can't wait for Armin to think about some diplomacy stuff.
You got it wrong, it's not that he cant stop the future, and so he does it anyway. It's that he WANTS to do it anyway and the future tells him just that, that no matter what he wil do it bc it's what he wants
It was really surreal when ramzi and Halil died. There was no plot armor. No intervention. No one coming to help. No power of friendship or anything just conveniently stopping the titans right before ramzi dies. They died. And nothing can change that. Theyre gone. Most shows or movies at least fluff it up enough to where the most dreadful crescendo isnt realized. But thats not the case here. Just a cruel cruel world.
HOLY SHIT I COMPLETELY ABOUT THAT LYRICS and learning that it was related to some future event happening during the rumbling, all the way back in the first part of the final season. When I realized, I literally yelled out, "HHHOOOOOLLLYYYY SSSHHIITTT!"
canonically its incorrect many other countries speak eldian and even have it as an official language bc of the spread and influence of the eldian empire
@@ID_Playz that makes sense. The Eldians were the first empire to conquer the world using the power of the Titans, before the Marleyans (whom they also conquered) did. Probably even the present-day Marleyan Empire speaks Eldian.
i was rewatching the anime not long ago (dub) and realising that eren sees everything that's about to happen from the moment he touches historia's ring when she's queen makes the following season so painful, and so much less confusing. no wonder he's so apathetic about everything the rest of the world has to offer. no wonder he sits down so casually with reiner and barely even remembers the threat he made.
@@Shiruvioh he remembers what he said. He only said to forget about it to lower reiner's guard. His speech of empathy and understanding was both true and a tactic. He was about to follow through with that threat but he needed to break the armor titan down first so he can't interfere.
Love this scene to bits! The way they made Halil drop his money after establishing their dreams earlier and then making Ramzi watch Halil's still warm dead body, to the contorting features of his teeth and nose as he gets crushed slowly and his wide, innocent eyes screaming "what's going on??? Why am I dying like this???" It's so unfair and soul shattering. Truly a beautiful scene ❤
Not gonna lie, after watching this scene the first time, I went to go give my little brother a hug. I have read the manga but seeing it animated hit even harder.
@@musfikinsan3423 The world in which the stoy takes place is not exactly OUR world (it doesnt have the same countries or cultures) but is pretty much the same with a different History and set in the early 40s (even the world map is the same but upside down). So yeah, this people are, in a way, turk refugees. Eren on the other hand, is Eldian, which are the jews of this lore. He basically found out that their ethnicity was about to be wiped out in a holocaust, so he decided to unleash an apocalypse, killing all of humanity except a tiny country of free eldians. He is crying because he feels guilt and he also knows how it feels to be a war refugee, since he was one during his childhood. He also grew up not knowing anything about the outside world, because their people thought that there were no more humans beyond their borders. So he always dreamed of exploring it. ...but discovering what the world was really like (full humans who hate their race) truly broke him. This show starts as a generic shonen but evolves into a really smart take on militar propagand and hate between cultures. Plus, that guy is an anazing and tragic villain.
Imagine meeting the people you swore you would kill face to face and realizing not all of them were evil. That hatred and revenge can only blind you for so long before you can't lie to yourself anymore, that you aren’t the avenger anymore, but someone else's monster, someone else's colossal titan, someone else's Attack titan.
@@lackzzz_786 Yeah, he is a bad person, but the moment you start labeling people (especially groups of people) as evil, people start picking sides and that is what lead to the rumbling. I prefer to think of actions as evil and not the person themself. Feeding her to dogs was evil, but the person is more than one action. Sure that probably was not the only time he did that. Do I feel sorry for him when he died? No. Still i would rather not label people such. Ideas and actions can be evil. People are more complex.
@@djco8919 Do you think he should have been punished? That's the real question here. If you had the power to punish him, would you? What if people wanted to protect him? Would you go through them to get to him? If so, how many? This was where Eren's mindstate was, and to all of the above he answered yes. And to be honest, with that much power, it would be hard not to punish people who've done wrong. Not that I'm cool with genocide, I just like to talk perspective.
The rumbling is literally unstoppable. In any way apart from the other remaining intelligent titans. If you somehow manage to dodge the feet of the 500,000 colossal titans the heat generated will turn you to ash. Escape by air and you’ll be shot down through his control of the beast. You would think the only way is very very deep bunkers. Even then the weight of the thousands of colossal titans would collapse them, or the entrances to make it impossible to get out of, thus eventually starving you or suffocating you. So frightening
Also even if by some impossible miracle someone on the ground survived both the trampling and the heat, they would die fairly quickly after because there’s no food left and no water, just scorched ash. Even if you survive you die in the aftermath
@@anatoldenevers237In the ending of the manga I think it says that over 80% or 90% of the human population outside of Pardis island died. There were survivors but they were most likely reduced to the Stone Age, survivors if you will, probably killing each other over the laces on each others shoes and scraps of food, I don’t know how they’d get drinking water. There must have been skeptics who would have predicted that the rumbling could have happened, the world takes place in the modern era, the machine age or whatever you want to call it, it’s about 25 years or so before American style nuclear fallout shelters were made. Maybe there was good underground subway structures in major capitals or areas the titans somehow omitted. We don’t need closure, all we know is that Eldia won, it became free and the greatest nation in the world of AOT for generations to come.
@@deemedlight3647 yeah but these guys were talking about rumbling in general not just those specific people al you would really need to do is have people sent to deep natural systems with food or water supplies the titans are massive sure but compared actual weight of the land they wouldn't really be making a dent besides the surface level anything 100 metres and below wouldn't be affected much if at all
I like to think that when Ramzi initially heard Eren speaking while sobbing, it sounded like gibberish (because of the language barrier) but during his final moments while Eren is speaking throughout the events of his death here, his words echoed in his head again and finally understood what he was saying through some unexplained freaky deaky Eldia powers (since he saw Ymir while dying)
"When I learned that humanity lived outside the walls I was...so disappointed" Idc what anyone says, Eren is my favorite Anti Villian of all time and this line makes him stand out from 99% of protagonist in media, it has SO MUCH depth that it's insane
Imagine being told from when you were born that the people inside the walls were the last of humanity, and then found out that there are far more people outside the walls, and eventually found out that those people were the reason why your entire society has to live in fear of being eaten alive or killed horribly. even Armin was the one who put the dream into Eren's head that they would be free from Titans and fear when they reclaim their "outside world". This whole show was a self-inflicted tragedy from starts to finish and I absolutely love it.
@@dannyzero692to add into that, it's not like the world's peace was bought by the sacrifice of Paradise Island. There are still lots of war between Marley and other countries. If I were Eren I would've thought "what the fuck have you guys been doing out there?? What were we even suffering for for these thousands of years??? If you weren't going to achieve world peace then why the fuck did you even trap us inside a hellish island???"
@@dannyzero692 “your entire society has to live in fear of being eaten alive or killed horribly”, you’re talking about the world, right? Because the ones k1ll1ng and r4p1ng the world for 2000 years straight were Eldians. Karl Fritz was the only one, out of millions of Eldians, sane enough to stop all of this and confine the founding titan in the walls. He also wiped Eldians’ memories so they wouldn’t be the same barbaric bunch of demons they’ve been for the past 2000 years.
@@PeeweePlug Of course it is fiction, but some scenarios and ideas are obviously inspired from real world events. Just the idea of imagining mass genocide is a lot of fiction or no fiction. I was also being slightly hyperbolic although it did make me a little sick when I read this scene in the manga.
This is when I truly started believing Eren is the antagonist. Despite him being the "protagonist" This scene never fails to sincerely piss me off and make me cry
When I watch it in the anime I say "meh can't be that scary". Then I walk outside and find a 6+ meter tall building towering over me and say "imagine the height of this building times 2.2 being a titan" and say "uh oh". Then I go to a bigger city, find a 50 meter building and say "oh crap..."
I'm gonna be real. I headcanon that the second half of the flashback (Eren explaining everything and apologising) was Ramzi remembering it. And what makes it sad is that he doesn't even know why he's even remembering that of all time (Sorta like back in season 2 when Sasha was saving Kaya and she had a flashback with Historia and Ymir and she had no idea why she remembered that of all times) why, as he's about to get crushed, did he remembered that man who saved him months ago only to cry and he can't even understand what he's saying? Why did that memory popped up instead of a happy memory? And he dies not knowing why that was the last memory he remembered. The reality is that man who saved him would end up killing him.
Friendly reminder that right after this, Ramzi’s grandfather invited the scouts for a party. It strikes me as odd. Ramzi sees this man help him get away from local merchants, all of a sudden starts crying and apologizing for some weird thing, and then invited him and his friends over for dinner.
@oneeyedking9697 when Mikasa approached Eren on the hill overlooking the refugee camp, you can see Ramzi running from Eren, and Eren is wiping tears from his eyes before talking to Mikasa.
@@waves2378 Thank you. My original comment was wrong. I’ve researched this a bit though and can tell you that Ramzi couldn’t understand what Eren was saying so could only understand that Eren was crying, which can be interpreted anyway by a child.
most of the fanbase supports Eren for what he did, and even seem to glorify the rumbling. Ramzi and Halil offered perspectives on 99% of the people Eren killed. the lives of men, women, children, plants, animals, etc. were all wiped out, but it’s easier to not care since we watched through Eren’s eyes. you can never justify those actions, and saying that he didn’t have a choice isn’t true. we all have a choice when it comes to difficult situations, and we often have to choose under the worst circumstances. but Eren selfishly decimated the world for the people he loved, but deeply hurt those people. Ramzi couldn’t understand what Eren was saying, and most of the world couldn’t understand what was happening. i’m glad the show created a real sense of terror, horror, gruesomeness, despair, and a sense of urgency to take Eren down. it’s so important for people to understand that “choosing a side,” even if it’s Eren’s, is what ultimately creates problems like this. before Eren, the Eldians killed the world population 3x over for 2000 years, and the rest of the world was free for 100 years, but with the looming threat of doom. you cant blame them for wanting to prevent that. i personally think the euthanization plan was the best option for everyone.
I still think it's better to do the rumbling and have a shared fate with the whole world, why should some innocent people die for the whims of the others?
So eren just killed all the kids, newborns, babies and all the refugees suffering under Marley who actually never cared about Paradis or Marley and were actually victims of both eldian warrior unit and Marley colonisers.
Just like Bertholt killed all the innocents in Shiganshina who didn't deserve it. The cycle of hatred and violence is all consuming and self-sufficient
@@dragonlord3376 let me ask you a thing dragon, what if in the war of Russia and ukraine, Your parents or your kids get killed, even though you haven't done anything to both countries. Eren had a right to beat up Marley but there were also nations who weren't siding with Marley. That incel psycho killed them too
@@marathiboi96 oh no, literally everyone sided with marley; even the people who hated marley sided with them against Paradis. They saw a sleeping bear and all teamed up to take it out before it woke up, unfortunatley for them, they didn't do it fast enough. Make no mistake, I'm not justifying the deaths of innocent people who've never seen the battlefield before, but it's safe to say everyone was against Paradis
@@marathiboi96 Everyone sided with Marley. There were no nations that didn't side with Marley. If there were, they weren't big enough players to matter anyway. Hizuru wouldn't have sided with Paradis, the Akumabito was one clan. Also, you're misusing the word incel. That term doesn't apply. Eren's hatred of the world has exactly zero to do with not getting laid. In fact, I'd say Eren can get laid whenever he wanted by this time in the story. Psycho also doesn't apply, he's perfectly rational here. What he became, is a genocidal horror. The situation is not analogous with Russia and Ukraine. It would be if every major world power allied and decided to destroy completely either all Russians or all Ukrainians. That is every nation that has a military, including yours. Eren is monstrous, absolutely. It is thorough evil that he decided deliberately to embrace, and to give into. But it is not without reason. If the rest of the world no longer exists, any external threat against Paradis would be neutralized in perpetuam. He is thinking completely rote mixed with wrath. Rattlesnake poison can kill you. What if there are no more rattlesnakes, anywhere and everywhere?
@@dragonlord3376 most of the world was colonized by Marley thanx to warrior unit, so if eren ever killed anyone, it was refugees who lost their homes in war against Marley. He's no different than Marley at that point then.
I can't help but view a part of AoT's story as the doomsday clock. The rumbling reminds me an awful lot of WMD like nuclear warheads. At that point in history everyone was afraid of it, though they didn't believe they'd actually be used. Eventually, they poked the hornet's nest and got what was coming to them.
Many things could have stopped the rumbling: Marley accepting their faults and promoting peace, the common people letting go of their hate, the Azumabito being less greedy and offering a more compassionate deal to Paradis, etc. Even the actions of individuals may have changed fate: Grisha showing more love to his son, Reiner's mother truly loving him, Mikasa confessing her true feelings... All the problems in Attack on Titan could have been avoided if more people decided to be courageous and chosen love. Just like in real life. Our lack of virtue, our lack of love, can and WILL turn the world into hell. No matter how hopeless or fantastic it seems, we need to have faith in love, because without that we have nothing. I hope all of humanity realize that before it is too late... before it is OUR judgement day. Because just like you implied, it IS coming.
@@JavierGomezX Yeah, but that requires a lot of people to do something, which is somewhat unreasonable to expect. However, one man, IMO, could have stopped all of it was King Ftriz who, rather than running away from it all and giving up, actually ruled and solved the problems he saw. He had all the power, he could literally compel the world's most powerful country to do anything he desired, and he chose to just run away to an island and blind himself to the outside world after creating world ending weapons for a man capable of moving forward to commit genocide with.
This is the reason why paradis Island gets bombarded in the future. Who in the world would forget this horror? Many who weren't involved with the beef ended up dying.
As if there's anything resembling a functional government after killing 95% of the population, Eren just sent the world outside paradis back to the dark ages.
Only because his friends was able to stop him If it was really up to Eren the only ones left would be the Eldians of Paradis. So in the end he was right and Armin was wrong.
Well, his friends did have a happy life in 50+ years later before bombardment happened but the rest? Not so much. And the cycle begins. It's like both sides poking a sleeping giant
@@Ayanovah Only because they stopped Eren from his mission. Eren didn't just want 80%. If they just let Eren do what he was set to do, they would have peace for much much longer.
Some of these giants, like time stamp 02:17... they have an expression of horror. And the one on the right, a stare of resignation. Are their minds are self-aware but trapped in these bodies? So they are aware of the destruction they are causing but they simply cannot stop because they have no control what so ever. If so, that is outright monstrous!
It is an interesting theory, but yk im guessing its just pure titans, or pure colossal titans, since pure titans can have pretty....expressive? Faces. Like there are some that show their teeth so it looks like they are grinning (example: the dina fritz titan? The titan thats erens half mom who also ate his illegitimate mom....), or ones whos face looks neutral or expressionless, and some that looks angry or serious, though most titans have the "grinning" expression its more common to see pure titans in that facial expression, there still are other pure titans with different types of expressions...if you understand me But yk if its canon that they are "sentient" in a way, then thats just brutal..well for the colossal titans that is, and the people getting crushed too obv
It puzzles me how some people see Eren showing regret, apologizing, and disgust towards himself, watch global genocide of innocent people, and say that Eren is “morally correct.” Even Eren knows what he’s doing is horrifying and wrong. He just doesn’t have a choice.
He told Armin that no matter how many times he altered his actions, his visions stayed the same. Sasha died, Ramzi died, Halil died, Hange died, 80 percent of humanity died, and Eren himself died. I imagine that when he pulled off the attack on Liberio, he tried to alter his actions one last time to see if anything would change. When Sasha still died, he knew that nothing was going to stop the Rumbling and he gave up.
There were definitely other options besides killing all humanity. The one he took would give the highest probability that his friends would survive. That whole cycle of hatred/revenge thing was always more of a Naruto thing. What AOT is known for is people becoming monsters to achieve a good goal. Reiner, Bertholth, Annie, Zeke, Erwin and now Eren.
You forgot that Eren had the Attack Titan's FUTURE SIGHT ability. THIS may have been the BEST possible option. Now imagine the horrors that Eren saw if this is his best option. I'm amazed that he was THIS functional.
Or go with the original ending the writer had. Everyone dies but after seeing Guardians of the Galaxy and another movie he completely changed the ending. Even Sasha was supposed to die earlier but due to an editor crying reading her death he pushed her death back.
@@BradleyChan-t6t I don't think his power is like Doctor Strange magic which allows him to see all possible outcomes. The power of the Attack Titan is to see the memories of future and past inheritors. In other words, he knew the result that he would reach Zeke and start the rumbling but he doesn't know the result if he had taken a different route. He made a choice for the good of the island.
Which is why he's one of the best villain protagonists. The terrifying part, is that us the audience can see parts of ourselves in him and his darkest most monstrous and insane desires. Wanting to kill-them-all, if anyone's ever been bullied or abused, you'd understand this sentiment thoroughly. It's what makes him relatable and harrowing, almost like a mirror to our demons.
The Attack Titan has to be one of the cruelest powers I've ever seen. All of the immortality, madness and crap can stand aside. Being able to see into the past and future, figuring out that not only were you, from years into the future, responsible for the greatest atrocities the world would ever see, but responsible for the very things that fueled your rage and caused you to unlock that power, years ago, is terrifying on a different level. Eren saw that he decided to let his mother die. He saw that he mentally broke his dad and gave himself this power. He saw that he would kill all these people, and that he, in the grand scheme of things, would contribute to the cycle. He couldn't break it, he couldn't change it, the only thing he could do was look at all the innocent people around him and wonder, "I turn out to be someone who could give the order to kill all these people?" it's so absolutely gut wrenching because while Eren did kill all those people, he wouldn't in a million years have done it on his own. Only someone so incredibly spiteful could have done that, and the horror was realising he'd turn out to be that someone.
I'd like to tell you Ramzi and his brother escaped with the money they stashed away over the years and made their way to an isolated island far away where they were taken in by a kind couple that owned a farm where they lived out the rest of their lives.... *But this isn't that kind of story >:)*
These scenes probably hit the hardest of the series. It was a horror of a sight in the manga and then the anime was soul crushing. Even the other scenes where people were running and the gate to symbolize how futile it was.
I think its insane that people see this scene and think to themselves Eren did nothing wrong, he deadass admits that doing nothing is the right choice but he doesnt want to make it
His people will be genocided if he does nothing. Put yourself in his shoes, would you do nothing even if you had the power to prevent the genocide against your people?
he never said doing nothing is the right choice he just meant that he dont know if it’s better that he let the world geni**de his people or he genoc**de the world it was only up to him to make this choice which is obv a hard one
@@glocen Eh i just didnt like the message of the show i guess. It basically says - races cant coegzist, conflict is inevitable only thing to do is be no more than an animal killing anyone diffrent. Wchich is not true look at USA you have people of all races living alongside. It is possible to coegzist and be more than a gene driven animal. The message is wrong.
The 3rd guy in the back looks a striking amount like Reiner's Marleyan father from Season 4 Episode 3. Racist deadbeat looks to have gotten fat and bald, and bashing kids is real classy too. I imagine if he had stuck around to parent Reiner he would have been physically abusive to him too.
it wasn't but there was basically no other choice, it's either fight back or let everyone you love die. Eren knew it was wrong, but he choose his people first
@@SirToaster9330 a smaller scale rumbling would have been a better option. Like Eren could have arranged the colossal titans in smaller groups and have them attack marlyan military outposts and bases. With this plan a lot of innocents would die but not 80% of humanity.
Eren is the reason why his mom died in the first, it was all his doing, using the attack titans power to descend into the past and pulling all the strings from the future, setting all things in place.
While i am team Eren, his hatred makes little sense when you know he could change the past, i know they say that he sees all possible futures but it really makes me wonder if there really was no other choice, couldnt he give them time to evacuate? he could destroy the cities and all they built and while that still would create lots of suffering i assume at the very least it would be better for his mental health than crushing innocents
This is where i cant forgive these actions. He literally could have created a path fir certain people to be safe at least. I've been neglected and abused. I wouldn't do the same yo someone like that. I always thought highly of him but after this video, hes no better than them. Even worse because he has self awareness of it all
This scene is fucking amazing. It was amazing in the manga, too. I was really looking forward to finally seeing it in the anime. This is the scene that reminds us all that Eren, while committing absolutely horrendous actions, still has a conscience and feels extreme remorse and self-loathing similar to Reiner. And yet, he goes through with it anyway. It's all so beautifully tragic. I don't usually gush over anime like this y'all, but holy shit.
How could the world be at peace with Eldia & Eldia be at peace with the world?? To be honest the only way is forgiveness but neither side is strong enough to do so. This is the result of two parties not coming into forgiveness; one side would eventually fear the other and said fear would lead to them thinking the only option is us or them. Both sides are not innocent; I really think Erwin would’ve been more impactful in a situation like this. Once he died the structure just went downhill.
That's why as an Eldian, Eren is in the right. Its us or them. If he doesn't hit a hard reset and wipe everyone out, then Paradis Island is 100% going to be destroyed. The fact that we're even HERE after the first Rumbling proves that sparing them is wrong. (Unless you go euthanasia plan ofc)
@@wasdwasd609 do you hear yourself? Not being able to forgive justifies killing someone else? No one delegated that authority to Eren to do what he did, he did that own his own. You really supporting a genocidal teenager.
Erwin is just a wise commander. He’s much more useful in battlefield. Pixis’ death is the point of no return of this series. Man is a capable politician
@@wasdwasd609 No he's not right. This sets a horrible precedent that would realistically result in the death of millions if not billions of innocent people every time some war breaks out between different parties. Eren's logic would be akin to Russians and Polish peoples exterminating the German people during the WWII or the Chinese and Koreans exterminating the Japanese people during WWII. Eren had more than enough power to simply crush the militaries of the world, get an immediate unconditional surrender, and establish terms that would allow for healing and reconciliation. If your country declared a war of extermination today, is it really fair for the opposing side to kill innocent civilians such as yourself after they annihilated your military?
I just know that Eren didn’t turn to Titan just to beat those guys. He didn’t have a ODM gear either. He probably puck/kick them to death. Elite Growth💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
Buds a veteran fighter at this point plus he doesn't have to worry about injuring his muscles so he can afford to use more power in base than most people
For me Eren was always destined to be a genocide, he fulfilled his threat to exterminate all his enemies on earth. Obviously he knew there would be innocents, but in Ramzi's case he is a bit of both, he is a child who needs to steal in order to live. But he doesn't stop being bad, he reminds me of Aladdin that no matter how much he does it for survival, he hurts others for his own purposes. I'm not saying that he deserves what happened to him because no one ever deserves a genocide of that magnitude. As Sasha's dad said, one death causes more deaths, the death of Eren's mom caused all this, I largely understand Eren to carry out his threat because the ones who threw the first stone were the Marleyans. But a thousand times I am against a worldwide genocide, they will say that Zeke's plan was better, but it was a crime and with a more painful death. the best option was to remove the powers of the titans and cut the connection with Ymir so they could be normal people.
Problem with him removing the Titan powers is that Paradis would have no way to defend themselves from the rest of the world, as most of the other countries are more technologically advanced than paradis
@@toydiggeronly 1 clan (not a whole country) gave them that new tech, and that clan knew that if word got out that they were secretly helping paradis, they would be finished. The whole world are enemies of paradis. They would certainly attack paradis at some point. Without titans, paradis knows it is severely ill-equipped to defend itself from the might of the tech advanced rest of the world.
It’s not that terrifying from up high. It is a very abstract thing of which you can’t see many details. Go down to street level, though, and everything changes.
Only the refugees of the Mid-East deserved my tears. The Marleyans, however, had the Rumbling coming for being hateful racists instead of trying to be better. Also, the Marley Mid-East War was a wasted opportunity. Paradis could have join the Allies and turn the tide of the war in the Allies' favor and defeat Marley together.
The Middle East people were more racist than Marley. Did you not hear what that one kid in Gaby and Falco’s group said? There are worse places for eldians outside of Marley. Marley at least had a use for them.
@@djco8919 Let me ask you this. Why can't there be two more people like those two gate guards who cared about Gabi out there in the Mid-East Eyalets or even the rest of the world? As for what the Mid-East Eyalets can used them for, they can be moneybags who paid jizya to live and eunuchs in the harems of the Beys and the Pashas.
@@lerneanlion There can be, but your original comment asked Paradis to help the Middle East alliance fight Marley. The Middle East alliance probably hate Paradis more than Marley. That was that point of my comment. Also I have no idea what jizya, Beys, eunuchs, or Pashas are. So those words do not mean anything to me. I am not insults you just incase. Feel free to enlighten me if you want.
@@djco8919 Jizya is a tax for non-Muslims. They have to pay yearly in exchange of being allowed to live peacefully with security of property and autonomy of their own communities under the Muslim rule. As for eunuchs, they are men who have their "little men" chopped off so they won't be able to knock up the women in the harems of the rulers they served. As for Bey, the title means chief or governor in Turkish language. As for Pasha, it is a general term applied to all civil and military ranks within the Ottoman Empire. And clearly, you do not know what "an enemy of my enemy is my friend" is like at all. I've read history of many countries and have seen some unlikely alliances happened all the times ever since the Middle Ages ended.
It's honestly amazing that you can get goosebumps, cry, make your jaw drop, and irritation from this specific anime, definitely the best anime ever, The OST, Story, Plot Twist And Lore, EVERYTHING! But it's quite dissapointing that it wasn't in the top 3 best anime of all time.
To be fair, being beaten to death would probably hurt a whole lot more than being crushed in an instant. Sure, the latter would be terrifying too, but at least it would be over a lot sooner.
A common misunderstanding in AOT, thinking that eren activated the rumbling to protect his loved ones. While it is one of the reasons, it just isn’t the primary! This scene explores a side of eren’s character that was there from episode 1, only we the audience chose to ignore because he is our protagonist. Eren activated the rumbling because “he was very disappointed that humans outside the wall existed, that the world outside isn’t what he imagined it would be”, eren says that he is just like reiner, even worse! In the attack on marley arc, he asked reiner in the basement why did he attack paradis and caused the death of his mother, to which reiner admits that although marcel died and things did NOT go as planned and him realizing that there are a lot of innocent people inside the walls, he still chose to continue to attack paradis and caused causalities Because he wanted to! he wanted to be a hero, he wanted people’s respect! Not because he cared about “saving the world”. And so eren is the same and even worse, he activated the rumbling because he wanted to see the world just like in armin’s book! A world that’s free of other humans! While that’s childish, it is the same eren who promised to kill and wipe every titan outside the walls, he was ruthless from the beginning, he just channeled it into titans which is why it was hard to catch this side in early seasons. In his perspective the mere “existence” of people outside whether they are good or evil makes him feel that he’s not free. So he wanted to feel “freedom” be wiping everyone outside the wall
Seeing those titans walking over mountains miles away would be horrifying. Just the existential dread alone of seeing such a massive threat that's not even close to you... but you know it will be soon enough. Those people must have been running for hours before the titans eventually caught up. Imagine the adrenaline and absolute terror you'd feel the entire time.
Idk why you people are surprised Eren didn't beat 4 guys he destroyed Marely and fuc#ed Reiner many times Annie War Hammer idk you making it sound like he never had a fight in his life or this is a random dude, YES he beat 4 guys who have no skills nothing just 3 fat dudes beating up a kid whats big of a deal that he won that fight bruh
0:33 2:15 3:27 The colossal titans did not have any human at their necks to control them, none of them were independent. Eren had to control them all, see, hear and feel them all.
I love how the one person who knows Eren’s real plan, is some random kid he saved who he knows won’t understand him and will eventually kill. Eren isn’t doing this because he wants too. He’s doing this because it’s the only option left that will save his friends.
He literally says there’s more to it than just saving Eldia. He was disappointed that he found humanity outside the walls and even though he feels guilt that ppl like Ramzi will die he still wanted to start the rumbling.
@@zemo586 ¿?,there was only two options,eldian people getting wipe out of the world or him starting rumbling, anything aside is just eren's personal feelings
There is no way that you think this is the best option, we were told that eren doesn't wannabe doing what he's doing here, but the ending ruins it all, we never got a real justification of what he did, and he achieved nothing in the end
Basically there are two characters like this..after thought, see, experience how corrupted people, rules, world they live in..a just, kind, honest man can become..one is dr manhattan, sadly he has the power to obliviate all rotted things, but he didnt, just because silly argumen..and eren, though not has the power like dr manhattan, but he did try to obliviate/give lesson to the rotted..it didnt matter one know nothing at all (e.g child or baby), because eren previously has in that kind of condition too, so he knew best..humanity has given up from a long time ago..better just get rid of the rotted..because whether they live, only just bring chaos and useless to any good deeds
Eren apologizes to ramzi before he could unleashed something so terrifying. He knows he can do nothing to stop the rumbling and kill countless innocents people. Including this kid.
"What would Mom think" hit me harder than expected. The whole show Eren keeps his thoughts of revenge based on his Mom. Her death was a robbery of the few forms of kindness and love he had. She died, meaning her gentleness was never corrupted in his mind and ours. He realizes the atrocities he's about to commit. And also realizes his kind Mom would be appalled at the thought her child would become so cruel.
it's also a throwback to what Historia asked him before he went to Marley.
@@remphz3321 Eren’s mom would be disappointed because she would keep telling eren to stay but eren will still do the rumbling, she would blame herself thinking on what she did wrong and if she rises her son right or not
I think if his mother wasn't killed he wouldn't have done the Rumbling, he'd be angry sure, but not angry enough to wipe out the world
@@SirToaster9330 yea… you wouldnt like how his mom REALLY died
@@angkhoa1216 it's a paradox point what do you expect?
Eren: You don´t seem to understand. Ramzi is not yours to kill
Nice one Omniman
@@renmontalvan1665 I think Omniman can one shot the Rumbling
@@The_NPC20 Not to be mean... But no shit? The floor is made put of floor.
@@The_NPC20 modern day weapons can handle the rumbling just fine, let alone omniman
@@gil_11 not the navy or artilleries tho
Best Eren scene in the whole series. After seeing how ruthless he is leading up to the rumbling, here's Eren some months or years prior having seen the future, knowing he can do nothing to stop it, and he's horrified of himself. Pretty similarly by how his dad was compelled to do things he was horrified of. This is actually probably the best character moment in the series, and it is so thoroughly earned. Impeccable.
He doesn't do rumbling, because he can't stop the future. He even contemplates other options here, but decides, that he "can't accept things ending this way"
There's a book series that deals with this same type of concept. Dune by Frank Herbert, it got a movie adaptation recently. Well, a NEW adaptation. Anyway, main character in that story learns of a future that he can not avoid no matter what, so he decides to take the rains to bring it to the most optimal out come where the least amount of people will die. And still billions die in HIS, the main character, his name.
He wanted to do this either way. He even said so in 3:45.
@@АлинаКостылева-ф2ч The curse of Ymir is also a big problem. Eren only have 4 years to live, he can't wait for Armin to think about some diplomacy stuff.
You got it wrong, it's not that he cant stop the future, and so he does it anyway. It's that he WANTS to do it anyway and the future tells him just that, that no matter what he wil do it bc it's what he wants
It was really surreal when ramzi and Halil died. There was no plot armor. No intervention. No one coming to help. No power of friendship or anything just conveniently stopping the titans right before ramzi dies.
They died. And nothing can change that. Theyre gone.
Most shows or movies at least fluff it up enough to where the most dreadful crescendo isnt realized. But thats not the case here. Just a cruel cruel world.
The final episode will be full of power of friendship and plot armour tho
@@uzairahmed4197 Yeah, like Game of Thrones, they introduce a merciless world at the start then it becomes shit at the end.
Not everyone has plot armor in stories. That's the point of plot armor. Only some specific people have it. 🤦🏻♂️
@@uzairahmed4197 lol no, that because you don't understand that
The plot armor exclusive for the Plot armor titan and his friend
Damn, a young man came up to me a week ago on the street, crying and it looked like he was apologizing for something..
uh oh lol
Where do you live? we want to know which city will he start rumbling
He lives in liberia
That young man was later killed by colossal titans
he's not replying guys.. oh no 😱
after watching those children die I just remembered the lyrics from S4 part 1 opening: "Children cling to their coins squeezing out their wisdom"
That was the entire point of that lyric. Foreshadowing this exact scene
The foreshadowing is clearly on point like a bullseye.
Damn
@phoenixalldayy5775they weren't going to outrun it
HOLY SHIT I COMPLETELY ABOUT THAT LYRICS and learning that it was related to some future event happening during the rumbling, all the way back in the first part of the final season. When I realized, I literally yelled out, "HHHOOOOOLLLYYYY SSSHHIITTT!"
Eren: Crying and explaining his plans
Ramzi: Tf are you crying and saying I don’t speak Eldian/Marleyan
Was exactly like that in the manga, lol. The Kid did not understand a thing.
canonically its incorrect many other countries speak eldian and even have it as an official language bc of the spread and influence of the eldian empire
@@ID_Playz that makes sense. The Eldians were the first empire to conquer the world using the power of the Titans, before the Marleyans (whom they also conquered) did. Probably even the present-day Marleyan Empire speaks Eldian.
@@ennui9745 yeah rhey do official language of Marley is Eldian
Wait Ramzi speaks another language
Wow. Eren was actually losing his mind man. I don’t even know how he got a minute of sleep.
That's what the booze was for
Fr
i was rewatching the anime not long ago (dub) and realising that eren sees everything that's about to happen from the moment he touches historia's ring when she's queen makes the following season so painful, and so much less confusing. no wonder he's so apathetic about everything the rest of the world has to offer. no wonder he sits down so casually with reiner and barely even remembers the threat he made.
@@Shiruvioh he remembers what he said. He only said to forget about it to lower reiner's guard. His speech of empathy and understanding was both true and a tactic. He was about to follow through with that threat but he needed to break the armor titan down first so he can't interfere.
Love this scene to bits! The way they made Halil drop his money after establishing their dreams earlier and then making Ramzi watch Halil's still warm dead body, to the contorting features of his teeth and nose as he gets crushed slowly and his wide, innocent eyes screaming "what's going on??? Why am I dying like this???" It's so unfair and soul shattering.
Truly a beautiful scene ❤
holup...beautiful..?
Ah yes beautiful seeing this 2 kids dying. Is this really beautiful? Huh?
@@ThreeDings I think they mean it did it’s job to such a good degree that it could be called “beautiful.” But in a really tragic way.
I get it but please don’t describe it as beautiful….
@@Neofung87 It is art, it provokes emotion. Therefor it is, in it's own twisted way, beautiful.
He beat up three grown men without even messing up his suit or his hair.
well he is a soldier after all
@@alifdoll6372 Not just a soldier, a survey corps member.
Just remember how effortlessly he beat up Armin
As a soldier and top 5 best in his batch on hand to hand combat.
Eren is basically a demi-god
Not gonna lie, after watching this scene the first time, I went to go give my little brother a hug. I have read the manga but seeing it animated hit even harder.
Dude hug your little brother more often.
I didn't watch anime.Those people are Turk?Their names(Ramzi ,Halil ,Eren) and clothes belong to Turks.
@@musfikinsan3423 The world in which the stoy takes place is not exactly OUR world (it doesnt have the same countries or cultures) but is pretty much the same with a different History and set in the early 40s (even the world map is the same but upside down).
So yeah, this people are, in a way, turk refugees.
Eren on the other hand, is Eldian, which are the jews of this lore.
He basically found out that their ethnicity was about to be wiped out in a holocaust, so he decided to unleash an apocalypse, killing all of humanity except a tiny country of free eldians.
He is crying because he feels guilt and he also knows how it feels to be a war refugee, since he was one during his childhood.
He also grew up not knowing anything about the outside world, because their people thought that there were no more humans beyond their borders. So he always dreamed of exploring it.
...but discovering what the world was really like (full humans who hate their race) truly broke him.
This show starts as a generic shonen but evolves into a really smart take on militar propagand and hate between cultures.
Plus, that guy is an anazing and tragic villain.
@@asturianix9820 Thanks for information.İt looks interesting.I 'll watch .
im sure you hugged him after that falco scene too
Imagine meeting the people you swore you would kill face to face and realizing not all of them were evil. That hatred and revenge can only blind you for so long before you can't lie to yourself anymore, that you aren’t the avenger anymore, but someone else's monster, someone else's colossal titan, someone else's Attack titan.
(Edit) manga spoilers in the replies:
I wish people would remember this scene when they think Eren is doing this just to save the island.
Nah but the entire world is evil and eren is simply sigma
@@sekiro_the_one-armed_wolf no one is evil in AOT.
@@djco8919 what about the guy that fed grishas sister to the dogs for sport idk about you man but that sounds pretty evil.
@@lackzzz_786 Yeah, he is a bad person, but the moment you start labeling people (especially groups of people) as evil, people start picking sides and that is what lead to the rumbling. I prefer to think of actions as evil and not the person themself. Feeding her to dogs was evil, but the person is more than one action. Sure that probably was not the only time he did that. Do I feel sorry for him when he died? No. Still i would rather not label people such. Ideas and actions can be evil. People are more complex.
@@djco8919 Do you think he should have been punished? That's the real question here. If you had the power to punish him, would you? What if people wanted to protect him? Would you go through them to get to him? If so, how many? This was where Eren's mindstate was, and to all of the above he answered yes.
And to be honest, with that much power, it would be hard not to punish people who've done wrong. Not that I'm cool with genocide, I just like to talk perspective.
The rumbling is literally unstoppable. In any way apart from the other remaining intelligent titans. If you somehow manage to dodge the feet of the 500,000 colossal titans the heat generated will turn you to ash. Escape by air and you’ll be shot down through his control of the beast. You would think the only way is very very deep bunkers. Even then the weight of the thousands of colossal titans would collapse them, or the entrances to make it impossible to get out of, thus eventually starving you or suffocating you. So frightening
Also even if by some impossible miracle someone on the ground survived both the trampling and the heat, they would die fairly quickly after because there’s no food left and no water, just scorched ash. Even if you survive you die in the aftermath
@@anatoldenevers237In the ending of the manga I think it says that over 80% or 90% of the human population outside of Pardis island died. There were survivors but they were most likely reduced to the Stone Age, survivors if you will, probably killing each other over the laces on each others shoes and scraps of food, I don’t know how they’d get drinking water. There must have been skeptics who would have predicted that the rumbling could have happened, the world takes place in the modern era, the machine age or whatever you want to call it, it’s about 25 years or so before American style nuclear fallout shelters were made. Maybe there was good underground subway structures in major capitals or areas the titans somehow omitted. We don’t need closure, all we know is that Eldia won, it became free and the greatest nation in the world of AOT for generations to come.
@@anatoldenevers237there is plenty of water the titans swam to Marley and we see water still being there after they arrive
@@andriusas90yes but we people were when it happened there would not be water close enough for them to get to before succumbing.
@@deemedlight3647 yeah but these guys were talking about rumbling in general not just those specific people al you would really need to do is have people sent to deep natural systems with food or water supplies the titans are massive sure but compared actual weight of the land they wouldn't really be making a dent besides the surface level anything 100 metres and below wouldn't be affected much if at all
really wish ramzi had some secret plot armor, he was just a kid, a poor poor kid.
@@gabadinasabashilloy8529 yo wife left you stfu lmao
it was showing no one has plot armor from the rumbling. not even poor little kids.
@@adangonzalez1436 dam
bruh
Oh well. Shit happens 🤷
You know what's more worse about the whole ramzi's death scene? Is that the last thing he saw was his brother destroyed head
Its even worse in the manga. He literally saw his brother's head being smashed in half, in the anime they censored it with debris
@@HWDragonborn Yes i know i read the manga,but i honestly thought they were gonna censor it more but they show enough gore
@@HWDragonbornthe Bluray will probably show it
It was his friend, not brother
I like to think that when Ramzi initially heard Eren speaking while sobbing, it sounded like gibberish (because of the language barrier) but during his final moments while Eren is speaking throughout the events of his death here, his words echoed in his head again and finally understood what he was saying through some unexplained freaky deaky Eldia powers (since he saw Ymir while dying)
"When I learned that humanity lived outside the walls I was...so disappointed"
Idc what anyone says, Eren is my favorite Anti Villian of all time and this line makes him stand out from 99% of protagonist in media, it has SO MUCH depth that it's insane
Imagine being told from when you were born that the people inside the walls were the last of humanity, and then found out that there are far more people outside the walls, and eventually found out that those people were the reason why your entire society has to live in fear of being eaten alive or killed horribly.
even Armin was the one who put the dream into Eren's head that they would be free from Titans and fear when they reclaim their "outside world". This whole show was a self-inflicted tragedy from starts to finish and I absolutely love it.
No matter cares what you say either tool.
@@dannyzero692to add into that, it's not like the world's peace was bought by the sacrifice of Paradise Island. There are still lots of war between Marley and other countries. If I were Eren I would've thought "what the fuck have you guys been doing out there?? What were we even suffering for for these thousands of years??? If you weren't going to achieve world peace then why the fuck did you even trap us inside a hellish island???"
@@dannyzero692 “your entire society has to live in fear of being eaten alive or killed horribly”, you’re talking about the world, right? Because the ones k1ll1ng and r4p1ng the world for 2000 years straight were Eldians. Karl Fritz was the only one, out of millions of Eldians, sane enough to stop all of this and confine the founding titan in the walls. He also wiped Eldians’ memories so they wouldn’t be the same barbaric bunch of demons they’ve been for the past 2000 years.
Terrorist logic. Of course people are empathic to it. But its still wrong.
Normal series: Hero rescues kid
Rare series: Hero lets kid get beaten up and later regrets it.
AoT: Hero murders the kid and says he is sorry 😂
Hahahaahah
You got it reversed. He actually says sorry and then murders the kid
Bully maguire: I wonder if I should help. That kid wont stand a change againts 4 of us
@@paulr.9029 For eren there is probably no present. His future, past and present is the same.
Hero?
Scenes that still keep me awake and haunt me.
Bro its a cartoon chill😂
@@gearup3027 Listen up you lol
Just to make sure. This is only fiction its not real....
@@PeeweePlug Of course it is fiction, but some scenarios and ideas are obviously inspired from real world events. Just the idea of imagining mass genocide is a lot of fiction or no fiction. I was also being slightly hyperbolic although it did make me a little sick when I read this scene in the manga.
@@PeeweePlug well we watch fiction to feel something. If fiction makes you feel no emotion then what's the point in watching or reading
This is when I truly started believing Eren is the antagonist. Despite him being the "protagonist" This scene never fails to sincerely piss me off and make me cry
Yuki Kaji's voice acting and the sadness/guilt he conveys in this clip is unbelievable.
When I watch it in the anime I say "meh can't be that scary". Then I walk outside and find a 6+ meter tall building towering over me and say "imagine the height of this building times 2.2 being a titan" and say "uh oh". Then I go to a bigger city, find a 50 meter building and say "oh crap..."
I'm gonna be real. I headcanon that the second half of the flashback (Eren explaining everything and apologising) was Ramzi remembering it. And what makes it sad is that he doesn't even know why he's even remembering that of all time (Sorta like back in season 2 when Sasha was saving Kaya and she had a flashback with Historia and Ymir and she had no idea why she remembered that of all times) why, as he's about to get crushed, did he remembered that man who saved him months ago only to cry and he can't even understand what he's saying? Why did that memory popped up instead of a happy memory? And he dies not knowing why that was the last memory he remembered. The reality is that man who saved him would end up killing him.
I feel like it's a kind of epiphany, their brain drawing a connection between the two events even if they don't know the why or how they are related.
Friendly reminder that right after this, Ramzi’s grandfather invited the scouts for a party. It strikes me as odd. Ramzi sees this man help him get away from local merchants, all of a sudden starts crying and apologizing for some weird thing, and then invited him and his friends over for dinner.
@@waves2378No, timeline wrong, The scouts were invited earlier and this is when Eren already had left the scouts.
@oneeyedking9697 when Mikasa approached Eren on the hill overlooking the refugee camp, you can see Ramzi running from Eren, and Eren is wiping tears from his eyes before talking to Mikasa.
@@waves2378 Thank you. My original comment was wrong. I’ve researched this a bit though and can tell you that Ramzi couldn’t understand what Eren was saying so could only understand that Eren was crying, which can be interpreted anyway by a child.
This could have all been avoided if Ramzi used duolingo
But it does not exist in aot universe
@@Unknown-3455gamerwait really?
@@angartaker yes plus it wasn’t developed yet bc it between the 1815
@@Unknown-3455gamerits actually 1940s for aot
@@Defence69104 ok thanks
God watching his face squish and his teeth pop out is horrifying, this is truly one of the most awful ways to go. Poor kids
It was worse in the manga..
most of the fanbase supports Eren for what he did, and even seem to glorify the rumbling. Ramzi and Halil offered perspectives on 99% of the people Eren killed. the lives of men, women, children, plants, animals, etc. were all wiped out, but it’s easier to not care since we watched through Eren’s eyes. you can never justify those actions, and saying that he didn’t have a choice isn’t true. we all have a choice when it comes to difficult situations, and we often have to choose under the worst circumstances. but Eren selfishly decimated the world for the people he loved, but deeply hurt those people.
Ramzi couldn’t understand what Eren was saying, and most of the world couldn’t understand what was happening. i’m glad the show created a real sense of terror, horror, gruesomeness, despair, and a sense of urgency to take Eren down. it’s so important for people to understand that “choosing a side,” even if it’s Eren’s, is what ultimately creates problems like this. before Eren, the Eldians killed the world population 3x over for 2000 years, and the rest of the world was free for 100 years, but with the looming threat of doom. you cant blame them for wanting to prevent that. i personally think the euthanization plan was the best option for everyone.
absolutely
I still think it's better to do the rumbling and have a shared fate with the whole world, why should some innocent people die for the whims of the others?
Agreed it’s like the hole world was poking a sleeping bare and got mauled.
Y'all seem to forget that years later the island got nuked either way lmfao
Ah yes plant perspective
4:20 Even you can see Ramzi's teeth being crush. Scary and horrifying sight😮😮😮
It's a work of heart ❤
even I didn't notice it
It makes me feel like im watching something i shouldnt it feels wierd to see
Get rumbled stay humbled
WTF XD
That's what happens when you fumble your goals
hahahaha
@@crackinglyyou'll tumble, slip and fall, you will never be the same
@@YuTEM You crumble away
So eren just killed all the kids, newborns, babies and all the refugees suffering under Marley who actually never cared about Paradis or Marley and were actually victims of both eldian warrior unit and Marley colonisers.
Just like Bertholt killed all the innocents in Shiganshina who didn't deserve it. The cycle of hatred and violence is all consuming and self-sufficient
@@dragonlord3376 let me ask you a thing dragon, what if in the war of Russia and ukraine, Your parents or your kids get killed, even though you haven't done anything to both countries. Eren had a right to beat up Marley but there were also nations who weren't siding with Marley. That incel psycho killed them too
@@marathiboi96 oh no, literally everyone sided with marley; even the people who hated marley sided with them against Paradis. They saw a sleeping bear and all teamed up to take it out before it woke up, unfortunatley for them, they didn't do it fast enough.
Make no mistake, I'm not justifying the deaths of innocent people who've never seen the battlefield before, but it's safe to say everyone was against Paradis
@@marathiboi96 Everyone sided with Marley. There were no nations that didn't side with Marley. If there were, they weren't big enough players to matter anyway. Hizuru wouldn't have sided with Paradis, the Akumabito was one clan. Also, you're misusing the word incel. That term doesn't apply. Eren's hatred of the world has exactly zero to do with not getting laid. In fact, I'd say Eren can get laid whenever he wanted by this time in the story. Psycho also doesn't apply, he's perfectly rational here. What he became, is a genocidal horror. The situation is not analogous with Russia and Ukraine. It would be if every major world power allied and decided to destroy completely either all Russians or all Ukrainians. That is every nation that has a military, including yours. Eren is monstrous, absolutely. It is thorough evil that he decided deliberately to embrace, and to give into. But it is not without reason. If the rest of the world no longer exists, any external threat against Paradis would be neutralized in perpetuam. He is thinking completely rote mixed with wrath. Rattlesnake poison can kill you. What if there are no more rattlesnakes, anywhere and everywhere?
@@dragonlord3376 most of the world was colonized by Marley thanx to warrior unit, so if eren ever killed anyone, it was refugees who lost their homes in war against Marley. He's no different than Marley at that point then.
I can't help but view a part of AoT's story as the doomsday clock. The rumbling reminds me an awful lot of WMD like nuclear warheads. At that point in history everyone was afraid of it, though they didn't believe they'd actually be used. Eventually, they poked the hornet's nest and got what was coming to them.
Many things could have stopped the rumbling: Marley accepting their faults and promoting peace, the common people letting go of their hate, the Azumabito being less greedy and offering a more compassionate deal to Paradis, etc. Even the actions of individuals may have changed fate: Grisha showing more love to his son, Reiner's mother truly loving him, Mikasa confessing her true feelings...
All the problems in Attack on Titan could have been avoided if more people decided to be courageous and chosen love. Just like in real life. Our lack of virtue, our lack of love, can and WILL turn the world into hell. No matter how hopeless or fantastic it seems, we need to have faith in love, because without that we have nothing. I hope all of humanity realize that before it is too late... before it is OUR judgement day. Because just like you implied, it IS coming.
@@JavierGomezX lmao
@@NachtAsile Yeah, it sounds cliche, but most cliches a are cliches because there is truth in them.
@@JavierGomezX No no, not cliche. Just stupid
@@JavierGomezX Yeah, but that requires a lot of people to do something, which is somewhat unreasonable to expect. However, one man, IMO, could have stopped all of it was King Ftriz who, rather than running away from it all and giving up, actually ruled and solved the problems he saw. He had all the power, he could literally compel the world's most powerful country to do anything he desired, and he chose to just run away to an island and blind himself to the outside world after creating world ending weapons for a man capable of moving forward to commit genocide with.
4:14 Ymir suddenly appearing in his vision gave me serious Alma (F.E.A.R.) vibes 💀
This is extraordinarily fucked up. Don't let yourself become desensitized to the plain truth that this is extraordinarily fucked up.
I'd normally say something like "move around their feet..." but they also exude such heat that you'd burst into flame
This is the reason why paradis Island gets bombarded in the future. Who in the world would forget this horror? Many who weren't involved with the beef ended up dying.
*Paradis island
As if there's anything resembling a functional government after killing 95% of the population, Eren just sent the world outside paradis back to the dark ages.
Only because his friends was able to stop him If it was really up to Eren the only ones left would be the Eldians of Paradis. So in the end he was right and Armin was wrong.
Well, his friends did have a happy life in 50+ years later before bombardment happened but the rest? Not so much. And the cycle begins. It's like both sides poking a sleeping giant
@@Ayanovah Only because they stopped Eren from his mission. Eren didn't just want 80%. If they just let Eren do what he was set to do, they would have peace for much much longer.
This scene is all I need to know Eren is wrong
*the world
If all it takes is one child dying a horrible death to let your entire country die then jesus christ my guy.
Actually he was right, the end of the manga show us just how wrong Armin and his friends were.
No shit.
@@haroldcruz8550 Nah, Zeke was right.
Some of these giants, like time stamp 02:17... they have an expression of horror. And the one on the right, a stare of resignation. Are their minds are self-aware but trapped in these bodies? So they are aware of the destruction they are causing but they simply cannot stop because they have no control what so ever.
If so, that is outright monstrous!
The one in the back got that troll face meanwhile the one on the left is just🗿
Keep in mind these “humans” were also trapped in the wall for 100 years.
Annie said she could still hear faint conversations when she was frozen.
It is an interesting theory, but yk im guessing its just pure titans, or pure colossal titans, since pure titans can have pretty....expressive? Faces. Like there are some that show their teeth so it looks like they are grinning (example: the dina fritz titan? The titan thats erens half mom who also ate his illegitimate mom....), or ones whos face looks neutral or expressionless, and some that looks angry or serious, though most titans have the "grinning" expression its more common to see pure titans in that facial expression, there still are other pure titans with different types of expressions...if you understand me
But yk if its canon that they are "sentient" in a way, then thats just brutal..well for the colossal titans that is, and the people getting crushed too obv
It puzzles me how some people see Eren showing regret, apologizing, and disgust towards himself, watch global genocide of innocent people, and say that Eren is “morally correct.”
Even Eren knows what he’s doing is horrifying and wrong. He just doesn’t have a choice.
They're pure Consequentialists and the far future war shown in the end credits was "out-of-scope" lol. That's how they say he is morally correct.
He told Armin that no matter how many times he altered his actions, his visions stayed the same. Sasha died, Ramzi died, Halil died, Hange died, 80 percent of humanity died, and Eren himself died. I imagine that when he pulled off the attack on Liberio, he tried to alter his actions one last time to see if anything would change. When Sasha still died, he knew that nothing was going to stop the Rumbling and he gave up.
4:30 has the similar scenes when the butterfly got trampled by a herd of horses
Butterfly effect? 🤷♂️
There were definitely other options besides killing all humanity. The one he took would give the highest probability that his friends would survive. That whole cycle of hatred/revenge thing was always more of a Naruto thing. What AOT is known for is people becoming monsters to achieve a good goal. Reiner, Bertholth, Annie, Zeke, Erwin and now Eren.
What other options are there when peace talks are off the table and everyone wants you dead?
There were only 2 options. Either Rumbing or Zekes Plan
You forgot that Eren had the Attack Titan's FUTURE SIGHT ability. THIS may have been the BEST possible option. Now imagine the horrors that Eren saw if this is his best option. I'm amazed that he was THIS functional.
Or go with the original ending the writer had. Everyone dies but after seeing Guardians of the Galaxy and another movie he completely changed the ending. Even Sasha was supposed to die earlier but due to an editor crying reading her death he pushed her death back.
@@BradleyChan-t6t I don't think his power is like Doctor Strange magic which allows him to see all possible outcomes. The power of the Attack Titan is to see the memories of future and past inheritors. In other words, he knew the result that he would reach Zeke and start the rumbling but he doesn't know the result if he had taken a different route. He made a choice for the good of the island.
Eren truly became a monster. His death was earned. Even those who loved him had to put him down.
Which is why he's one of the best villain protagonists. The terrifying part, is that us the audience can see parts of ourselves in him and his darkest most monstrous and insane desires. Wanting to kill-them-all, if anyone's ever been bullied or abused, you'd understand this sentiment thoroughly. It's what makes him relatable and harrowing, almost like a mirror to our demons.
@@Fear_the_Nog The revelation that he was the one who made the smiling Titan eat his own mother. He was completely unhinged.
It's so heartbreaking that the fate is sealed seeing these two kids
Damn this scene really hit hard
Did Ramzi being able to see Ymir indicate that he was a subject of Ymir too?
Yes. Also the fact the he WAS IN THE PATHS
Wait when was he in the paths?
The fact that Eren relates to Reiner is so satisfying
The Attack Titan has to be one of the cruelest powers I've ever seen. All of the immortality, madness and crap can stand aside. Being able to see into the past and future, figuring out that not only were you, from years into the future, responsible for the greatest atrocities the world would ever see, but responsible for the very things that fueled your rage and caused you to unlock that power, years ago, is terrifying on a different level. Eren saw that he decided to let his mother die. He saw that he mentally broke his dad and gave himself this power. He saw that he would kill all these people, and that he, in the grand scheme of things, would contribute to the cycle. He couldn't break it, he couldn't change it, the only thing he could do was look at all the innocent people around him and wonder, "I turn out to be someone who could give the order to kill all these people?" it's so absolutely gut wrenching because while Eren did kill all those people, he wouldn't in a million years have done it on his own. Only someone so incredibly spiteful could have done that, and the horror was realising he'd turn out to be that someone.
I'd like to tell you Ramzi and his brother escaped with the money they stashed away over the years and made their way to an isolated island far away where they were taken in by a kind couple that owned a farm where they lived out the rest of their lives....
*But this isn't that kind of story >:)*
Nice reference to series of unfortunate events lol
These scenes probably hit the hardest of the series. It was a horror of a sight in the manga and then the anime was soul crushing. Even the other scenes where people were running and the gate to symbolize how futile it was.
Eren was going through a canon event this whole time
His birth was a canon event to humanity
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4:19 the most realistic and gory animation I've seen
3:44 the music mannnn so damn epiccccc!!!
I think its insane that people see this scene and think to themselves Eren did nothing wrong, he deadass admits that doing nothing is the right choice but he doesnt want to make it
His people will be genocided if he does nothing. Put yourself in his shoes, would you do nothing even if you had the power to prevent the genocide against your people?
@@kaiblade760 His people geonocided everyone in the past. Idk how everyone forgets they, it was the paradis that started it.
@@OkrotnaGlistait was 100% because of king fritz who decided by himself to make ymir & titan power commit geno*de
he never said doing nothing is the right choice
he just meant that he dont know if it’s better that he let the world geni**de his people or he genoc**de the world it was only up to him to make this choice which is obv a hard one
@@glocen Eh i just didnt like the message of the show i guess. It basically says - races cant coegzist, conflict is inevitable only thing to do is be no more than an animal killing anyone diffrent. Wchich is not true look at USA you have people of all races living alongside. It is possible to coegzist and be more than a gene driven animal. The message is wrong.
Its so heavy to watch
Ramzi knows how heavy it felt too
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@@hessiankyojin 😂
@@hessiankyojin LMAO!!!
get rumbled stay humbled
The 3rd guy in the back looks a striking amount like Reiner's Marleyan father from Season 4 Episode 3. Racist deadbeat looks to have gotten fat and bald, and bashing kids is real classy too. I imagine if he had stuck around to parent Reiner he would have been physically abusive to him too.
No one can convince me that the rumbling was justified no one
It was, get used to reality.
@@gustavabensberg4260 give me one good reason one
it wasn't but there was basically no other choice, it's either fight back or let everyone you love die. Eren knew it was wrong, but he choose his people first
@@SirToaster9330 a smaller scale rumbling would have been a better option. Like Eren could have arranged the colossal titans in smaller groups and have them attack marlyan military outposts and bases. With this plan a lot of innocents would die but not 80% of humanity.
@@purpleperson5791 Eren's plan anyway was more world peace, when 20% of humanity is forced to survive they would have to unite with Paradis
Eren is the reason why his mom died in the first, it was all his doing, using the attack titans power to descend into the past and pulling all the strings from the future, setting all things in place.
While i am team Eren, his hatred makes little sense when you know he could change the past, i know they say that he sees all possible futures but it really makes me wonder if there really was no other choice, couldnt he give them time to evacuate? he could destroy the cities and all they built and while that still would create lots of suffering i assume at the very least it would be better for his mental health than crushing innocents
UNFORGETTABLE.
ONE OF THE MOST GRIEFIEST THING EVER SEEN.
Poor Ramzi didn’t deserve this fate. Eren forgot to have realized that what he’s doing is going too far.
when i rewatched this scene for the first time and saw how eren's shadow didn't have a head that was craazy
This is where i cant forgive these actions. He literally could have created a path fir certain people to be safe at least. I've been neglected and abused. I wouldn't do the same yo someone like that. I always thought highly of him but after this video, hes no better than them. Even worse because he has self awareness of it all
Marley deserved the rumbling,but Ramzi and Halil didn't deserve to die,if only they were born in a better world...
There were many like Ramzi and halil who weren't involved in the whole conflict just like those who died in paradis.
Damn that was disturbing. And I read the manga over a year ago. I knew this was coming. It didn’t change how awful it was to watch.
This scene is fucking amazing. It was amazing in the manga, too. I was really looking forward to finally seeing it in the anime. This is the scene that reminds us all that Eren, while committing absolutely horrendous actions, still has a conscience and feels extreme remorse and self-loathing similar to Reiner. And yet, he goes through with it anyway. It's all so beautifully tragic. I don't usually gush over anime like this y'all, but holy shit.
How could the world be at peace with Eldia & Eldia be at peace with the world?? To be honest the only way is forgiveness but neither side is strong enough to do so. This is the result of two parties not coming into forgiveness; one side would eventually fear the other and said fear would lead to them thinking the only option is us or them. Both sides are not innocent; I really think Erwin would’ve been more impactful in a situation like this. Once he died the structure just went downhill.
The world just got a hard reset.
That's why as an Eldian, Eren is in the right. Its us or them. If he doesn't hit a hard reset and wipe everyone out, then Paradis Island is 100% going to be destroyed. The fact that we're even HERE after the first Rumbling proves that sparing them is wrong. (Unless you go euthanasia plan ofc)
@@wasdwasd609 do you hear yourself? Not being able to forgive justifies killing someone else? No one delegated that authority to Eren to do what he did, he did that own his own. You really supporting a genocidal teenager.
Erwin is just a wise commander. He’s much more useful in battlefield. Pixis’ death is the point of no return of this series. Man is a capable politician
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No he's not right. This sets a horrible precedent that would realistically result in the death of millions if not billions of innocent people every time some war breaks out between different parties.
Eren's logic would be akin to Russians and Polish peoples
exterminating the German people during the WWII or the Chinese and Koreans exterminating the Japanese people during WWII.
Eren had more than enough power to simply crush the militaries of the world, get an immediate unconditional surrender, and establish terms that would allow for healing and reconciliation.
If your country declared a war of extermination today, is it really fair for the opposing side to kill innocent civilians such as yourself after they annihilated your military?
after the end aired... seeing this hits even harder.
Attack on Titan, jujutsu kaisen, berserk, and goblin slayer just says "IDC about your innocent characters"
I just know that Eren didn’t turn to Titan just to beat those guys. He didn’t have a ODM gear either.
He probably puck/kick them to death.
Elite Growth💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
Buds a veteran fighter at this point plus he doesn't have to worry about injuring his muscles so he can afford to use more power in base than most people
No shit
Eren on that grindset
For me Eren was always destined to be a genocide, he fulfilled his threat to exterminate all his enemies on earth. Obviously he knew there would be innocents, but in Ramzi's case he is a bit of both, he is a child who needs to steal in order to live. But he doesn't stop being bad, he reminds me of Aladdin that no matter how much he does it for survival, he hurts others for his own purposes. I'm not saying that he deserves what happened to him because no one ever deserves a genocide of that magnitude. As Sasha's dad said, one death causes more deaths, the death of Eren's mom caused all this, I largely understand Eren to carry out his threat because the ones who threw the first stone were the Marleyans. But a thousand times I am against a worldwide genocide, they will say that Zeke's plan was better, but it was a crime and with a more painful death. the best option was to remove the powers of the titans and cut the connection with Ymir so they could be normal people.
Clearly you have a herd mentality, fix your life
Problem with him removing the Titan powers is that Paradis would have no way to defend themselves from the rest of the world, as most of the other countries are more technologically advanced than paradis
@juliomenendez9458 They would get support from the countries that gave them new technology
@@toydiggeronly 1 clan (not a whole country) gave them that new tech, and that clan knew that if word got out that they were secretly helping paradis, they would be finished.
The whole world are enemies of paradis. They would certainly attack paradis at some point. Without titans, paradis knows it is severely ill-equipped to defend itself from the might of the tech advanced rest of the world.
Marleyans were not the ones to throw the first stone. Eldians were. And now they are proving everyone right.
I like how the fight was probably so one-sided that they didn't bother to show it
It's weird even tho they're collasal titans just them walking doesn't seem terrifying yet it is.
It’s not that terrifying from up high. It is a very abstract thing of which you can’t see many details.
Go down to street level, though, and everything changes.
You know the anime is serious when they kill off a kid in such brutal way
That scene gave me the chills!!!
Children cling to their coin...
Attack on titan really draws a lot of inspiration from turkish culture its actually really interesting to see
Even if you regret it keep moving forward
Only the refugees of the Mid-East deserved my tears. The Marleyans, however, had the Rumbling coming for being hateful racists instead of trying to be better.
Also, the Marley Mid-East War was a wasted opportunity. Paradis could have join the Allies and turn the tide of the war in the Allies' favor and defeat Marley together.
true, they only regret what they've done when it already happens
The Middle East people were more racist than Marley. Did you not hear what that one kid in Gaby and Falco’s group said? There are worse places for eldians outside of Marley. Marley at least had a use for them.
@@djco8919 Let me ask you this. Why can't there be two more people like those two gate guards who cared about Gabi out there in the Mid-East Eyalets or even the rest of the world?
As for what the Mid-East Eyalets can used them for, they can be moneybags who paid jizya to live and eunuchs in the harems of the Beys and the Pashas.
@@lerneanlion There can be, but your original comment asked Paradis to help the Middle East alliance fight Marley. The Middle East alliance probably hate Paradis more than Marley. That was that point of my comment.
Also I have no idea what jizya, Beys, eunuchs, or Pashas are. So those words do not mean anything to me. I am not insults you just incase. Feel free to enlighten me if you want.
@@djco8919 Jizya is a tax for non-Muslims. They have to pay yearly in exchange of being allowed to live peacefully with security of property and autonomy of their own communities under the Muslim rule. As for eunuchs, they are men who have their "little men" chopped off so they won't be able to knock up the women in the harems of the rulers they served. As for Bey, the title means chief or governor in Turkish language. As for Pasha, it is a general term applied to all civil and military ranks within the Ottoman Empire.
And clearly, you do not know what "an enemy of my enemy is my friend" is like at all. I've read history of many countries and have seen some unlikely alliances happened all the times ever since the Middle Ages ended.
It's honestly amazing that you can get goosebumps, cry, make your jaw drop, and irritation from this specific anime, definitely the best anime ever, The OST, Story, Plot Twist And Lore, EVERYTHING! But it's quite dissapointing that it wasn't in the top 3 best anime of all time.
Everyone in this comment defending Eren until they’re faced with certain death themselves because their governments decided to declare war
Eren is only human after all. Don't put your blame on him./s
If this was real life I would support Eren if I was on Paradis but if I was on anywhere apart Paradis I would hate him and the island
@@mrreyes5004 nobody argues like that
The rest of the world was already at war with each other
@@Sernival hes only human tho, dont put the blame on him.
4:23 bro... that broke me 😭
They care about money than surviving 💀🙏
And not just the men, but the women... and the children, too.
To be fair, being beaten to death would probably hurt a whole lot more than being crushed in an instant. Sure, the latter would be terrifying too, but at least it would be over a lot sooner.
"Escolhas difíceis requerem determinação forte" - Thanos.
A common misunderstanding in AOT, thinking that eren activated the rumbling to protect his loved ones. While it is one of the reasons, it just isn’t the primary! This scene explores a side of eren’s character that was there from episode 1, only we the audience chose to ignore because he is our protagonist. Eren activated the rumbling because “he was very disappointed that humans outside the wall existed, that the world outside isn’t what he imagined it would be”, eren says that he is just like reiner, even worse! In the attack on marley arc, he asked reiner in the basement why did he attack paradis and caused the death of his mother, to which reiner admits that although marcel died and things did NOT go as planned and him realizing that there are a lot of innocent people inside the walls, he still chose to continue to attack paradis and caused causalities Because he wanted to! he wanted to be a hero, he wanted people’s respect! Not because he cared about “saving the world”. And so eren is the same and even worse, he activated the rumbling because he wanted to see the world just like in armin’s book! A world that’s free of other humans! While that’s childish, it is the same eren who promised to kill and wipe every titan outside the walls, he was ruthless from the beginning, he just channeled it into titans which is why it was hard to catch this side in early seasons. In his perspective the mere “existence” of people outside whether they are good or evil makes him feel that he’s not free. So he wanted to feel “freedom” be wiping everyone outside the wall
Eren is the incarnation of extremity, violence, hatred, and radicalism
Jep. He is a terrible, violent and selfish person. But people are blind to it because he has been the protagonist for such a long time
and he is so based for that
Seeing those titans walking over mountains miles away would be horrifying. Just the existential dread alone of seeing such a massive threat that's not even close to you... but you know it will be soon enough. Those people must have been running for hours before the titans eventually caught up. Imagine the adrenaline and absolute terror you'd feel the entire time.
Oh no that boys are going be crushed by Titan for getting about the money 💰 your life is more important than money
I wanted to wipe everything away like this whenever my supervisor started lecturing on me at work.
Did eren really beat 4 guys? Damn boy
He is a soldier and has Titan powers after all
Idk why you people are surprised Eren didn't beat 4 guys he destroyed Marely and fuc#ed Reiner many times Annie War Hammer idk you making it sound like he never had a fight in his life or this is a random dude, YES he beat 4 guys who have no skills nothing just 3 fat dudes beating up a kid whats big of a deal that he won that fight bruh
He didn’t just beat them, he slaughtered them lmao
Legend says there was a bolt of lightning above that area when Eren decided to fight them.
The same dude manages to take down the collosal titan with his blade. It's stranger if he can't beat mere humans in a fight
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The colossal titans did not have any human at their necks to control them, none of them were independent. Eren had to control them all, see, hear and feel them all.
maybe the titans expressions are based on how he feels
ラムジとハリルが死んだ時は本当に悲しい
I love how the one person who knows Eren’s real plan, is some random kid he saved who he knows won’t understand him and will eventually kill. Eren isn’t doing this because he wants too. He’s doing this because it’s the only option left that will save his friends.
He literally says there’s more to it than just saving Eldia. He was disappointed that he found humanity outside the walls and even though he feels guilt that ppl like Ramzi will die he still wanted to start the rumbling.
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¿?,there was only two options,eldian people getting wipe out of the world or him starting rumbling, anything aside is just eren's personal feelings
There is no way that you think this is the best option, we were told that eren doesn't wannabe doing what he's doing here, but the ending ruins it all, we never got a real justification of what he did, and he achieved nothing in the end
This scene is scary and depressing 😢
Pure titan: I will eat you!~~~
A lesson to world governments. "Don't write a check your ass can't cash."
Poor baby, rip ramzi
Rest in peace Ramzi
Basically there are two characters like this..after thought, see, experience how corrupted people, rules, world they live in..a just, kind, honest man can become..one is dr manhattan, sadly he has the power to obliviate all rotted things, but he didnt, just because silly argumen..and eren, though not has the power like dr manhattan, but he did try to obliviate/give lesson to the rotted..it didnt matter one know nothing at all (e.g child or baby), because eren previously has in that kind of condition too, so he knew best..humanity has given up from a long time ago..better just get rid of the rotted..because whether they live, only just bring chaos and useless to any good deeds
Eren apologizes to ramzi before he could unleashed something so terrifying. He knows he can do nothing to stop the rumbling and kill countless innocents people. Including this kid.
i known he committed worldwide genocide but guys its for content
And they had that nice night drinking with that old man earlier.
This scene messed me up, I cried for like the entire episode after this part. Everything else just added on