Honor Killings In Pakistan: The Kohistan Case
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- In May 2012, a grainy cellphone video emerged in a remote and deeply conservative village in northern Pakistan. The video showed four young women singing and clapping in a room as two young men danced to the music. The village elders saw the celebration as a blatant defiance of strict tribal customs that separate men and women at gatherings, and a decree was issued for those in the video and their families to be killed as their actions were deemed 'dishonorable.'
The women and one of their sisters, aged just 12, were allegedly imprisoned for a month and tortured before being killed. The men went into hiding but three of their brothers were shot dead.
Every year, nearly a thousand people are known to be killed in the name of honor in Pakistan. Many more go unreported, considered a part of everyday life - but the killings in Kohistan became national news after the surviving brother of the victims made it his mission to seek justice. VICE News host Hani Taha travels to Pakistan to meet Afzal Kohistani to investigate one of the country's most perplexing honor killing cases, three years on.
Produced by Academy Award and Emmy Award-winning documentary filmmaker Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy, VICE News finds out some of the grimmest truths about the pervasive culture of so-called honor killings in the region.
This video was originally published on VICE in 2016.
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Stop calling it honour killings. Its not. Its murder
No killing is honor killing.
@@habiburrahaman4094 " hated persons to Allah" Why would you follow a Prophet who hates? Christian's hate, but their faith preaches against hate.
@@khadrtrudeau1662 There is no honor in killing period.
@@khadrtrudeau1662 i agree and my answer is idk why the govt. doesnt do more.
Khadr Trudeau you sound really uneducated on killing people you say the prophet teaches no hate but people are killing women for doing dishonorable things, so what’s bringing this dishonor? Women do something small and the hate built from others are the reason why they kill them, they call it honorable. It’s not honorable it’s the amount of hate you have from someone to make you kill them. You just use the word “honorable” to hide the fact that it’s a crime.
This man died. He was a voice for justice. For family. For women. For pakistan. We should put up an effing monument for this guy and resolve that case!
Ana Acapella can you show me a link reporting his death?
@@DogGran www.google.com/amp/s/beta.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/a-pakistani-man-told-me-feared-hed-be-killed-for-exposing-honor-killings-his-worst-fear-just-came-true/2019/03/07/fb19e4ba-40ed-11e9-85ad-779ef05fd9d8_story.html%3foutputType=amp
@@AnaAcapella Guess this proves it is one lie after another lie. Letting out of a small amount of blood is all that happens to the males. He was not even one of the dancers and that cleric said that they do not even look at cases like this and the most that would happen is a small trickle of blood. He did not even bother to complete the question of what would happen to the girls.
@@stacey4u2luv i dont understand what you mean. He died. Is that a small trickle of blood to you?
@@AnaAcapella He died? This is so sad. May his soul rest in Peace.
He was able to survive for 7 years and made sure his family is safe. He made a mistake by agreeing to do an interview for this "Oscar famed" documentary filmmaker and BOOM! 3 months later he is shot dead.Through out the video, they didn't even attempt to conceal the hiding location of Afzal or his family. The crew should be ashamed that they contributed to his death.
Can you tell me something more about Afzal getting killed or link any articles related to it.
OH MY God!NO
Shame on VICE. 👎
Make sure you compensate them properly, VICE. Their bloods are on your hands.
@@sbsb4995 Can you link the evidence that he was killed? And can link the evidence that vice had anything to do with it? For all we know, you are part of the people who WANT him dead.
Wtf, I knew VICE was shit generally, but I didn’t think they would be that awful.
I cried when afzal's son cried. And knowing that Afzal is no more shatters me. This documentary is the cause of afzal's death. RIP AFZAL
The cause of his death are the death cult (m*slim) lunatics who killed him, NOT this video.
Shame on you n others who only blame vice team n not the pathetic law police n the belief! More afzals would have got killed.. How long you morons will keep blaming others
He talked so bravely in front of the court. Such a brave and pure soul. Shame on Vice for revealing Afzal's location.
He's dead now
He died
After this he died😢😢😢😢
Yahi real islaam hai. Aur yahi islaam mein aurton ki empowerment or rights hai. 😃😃😃😃😃
@@o_0264 ha bhai yahi toh real islaam ki asli teaching hai.. Mai kahan mna kr rha hoon. Thoda sa naach gaana kya kr liya sar tan se juda... Yahi ISIS aur 98% terrorist organization in world jo islaam ke naam pe baney hai kr rha hai. 😄😞
Shame on this careless journalism to share his location. Don't you feel guilty of giving assistance in his murder
When did this happen
How did u got to know about this?
Can you please tell me?
He was murdered?
Rebecca Lane yes, they found him and he got murdered
I was thinking about that when watching this Video.
So terrible sad about his death!
Poor baby Son will never see his Father again in his life time!
Sick World with sick rules!
im wheezing it’s sick because these Americans who are in this video and behind the cameras probably COULD have done something to help these people or ya know...just not show where they’re hiding
How do you sleep now knowing you have a hand in the murder of this innocent man?!? Like HOW?!?
May he Rest In Peace and I really hope his family is safe.
Did you not understand the point of the entire show? They aren't innocent in the eyes of the killer thats why they were killed...
Thisisthebestnameever I’m talking about the journalist who revealed their hideout.
@@feruz7955 I don't really think they blame themselves he was giving his location and interviews since 2012 and was given multiple warnings it might of been this that caused his death but there was a long list of reasons they were trying to find him.
Francisco Pizarro first off what you jus said has nothing to do with my comment! That’s something you don’t have a control over! Ofc it’s not your fault! And second you are telling me it wasn’t their fault this man was murderd?! They led his killer to his hideout!!
@Francisco Pizarro are u stupid???? it’s their fault for literally revealing his hideout; ofc ur not to blame for ur ancestors owning slaves - that wasn’t YOU, but these people at VICE directly contributed to his death.... therefore YEAH they are somewhat responsible and should feel guilty!
Shame on VICE for not hiding AFZAL'S location and making it a limelight and that limelight on the internet took that men's life💔
Really is he no more?
@@khan-ue9xy Yup
@@muhammaddanialabbasi2990 how you know are you sure
Yep coz of vice they exposed the hiding place therefore he was killed
Bro this is westerns jobs to show pakistani or Muslims hate way the Don't care about there life or other problems the just want make propaganda against Muslims countries afzal made some good point but she must apply that point to judges or there area leaders not to media just because media he have been killed else maybe he will survive telling them point wrong and and request them forgiveness
Very irresponsible journalism. Knowing that an entire community is conspiring to get this man killed you reveled every bit information of him on camera.
The man was killed btw
Agreed.
Yeah it wasn't to smart of a choice by VICE but he's done a commendable job exposing what needs to be fixed. Denying it is just ignorance. RIP to him
@@shubendu7934 nobody is denying that. Cutting the video by 10-15 seconds would have been sufficient to maintain confidentiality but VICE chose not to.
I'm not from Pakistan but based on this video even I could trace his location easily.
@@shreyabansal4086 read more of the other comments many people are calling him otherwise
Protect your interviewees privacy!!!! That is journalism 101. If they had been more careful with his location he might’ve been alive today. Vice needs to issue a statement addressing this immediately! If not I am going to make this an issue for them.
Wow, this video was originally published in 2016. Afzal was killed in 2019. How do you figure this film, shot 3 years earlier, exposed his location?
@@serendipity9649 maybe read an article about it. This isn’t the first time once of their interviewees safety had been jeopardized
@Sophie S I read quite a few, did you? Afzal spoke to a lot of local media besides Vice in the 3 years following the publication. Kohistani campaigned for over seven years to keep the case in the public eye. Java Films also released a video in 2016, called "Honor Killings Unveiled: The Kohistan Video Scandal"
"On July 31, 2018, a new case was registered at Palas police station on the Supreme Court's orders.
Four suspects namely Umar Khan, Saber, Mohammad Sarfraz and Saeed were arrested. Upon interrogation, the suspects confessed to killing three of the girls - Begum Jan, Sireen Jan and Bazeega - by firing, saying they had disposed of the bodies in Nala Chorh.
Afzal had been of the firm view that the suspects were lying. “They killed all five girls by severe torture and are not identifying graves as it will reveal their brutality,” he had said at the time.
Afzal had been receiving constant death threats, prompting the Supreme Court to direct the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa government to provide him security, but the orders were reportedly not followed.
In January this year, while talking to media representatives in Bisham, Afzal had said that during the last court hearing he was scared as his rivals had informed their group about his arrival at the civil court in Kolai-Palas Kohistan."
www.dawn.com/news/1467998
@@serendipity9649 whether vice was directly the cause of his death or not is not determinable, I’m just stating that I don’t think they did enough to protect his privacy. And PERHAPS if they had worked harder to protect his secrecy, he would have lived today. Regardless this is a repetitive issue from Vice that they do not do enough to protect the people in their videos. If you disagree than awesome for you but I’m not gonna entertain this anymore. We don’t all have to have the same opinion. If u wanna ride that hard for vice than that’s all you but myself and others believe that they failed to protect the privacy of this young man.
@@serendipity9649 False. He died only 4 months after this video was first posted.
Why did Vice expose Afzal 's location? How irresponsible!
he died because of them
joyce where’s the proof
@@muhammadabdel7440 www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-47480597
@@tawksick8190 what??? fuck vice!!
I am so mad right now
Tawksick Bruh thank you
I am so disappointed in this documentary, not because of the story but because how you guys failed to keep him safe. You guys literally showed his location, identity and whereabouts after years of him trying to run away. I believe that you guys are definitely apart of his murder even if you guys physically didn’t do it
Bro this is westerns jobs to show pakistani or Muslims hate way the Don't care about there life or other problems the just want make propaganda Muslims countries afzal made some good point but she must apply that point to judges our area leaders not to media just because media he have been killed else maybe he will survive telling them point wrong and and request them forgiveness
@@Abkb-.bigboss-PKB the main problem behind this misogyny is islam nothing else
@@azwadahsan8549 like how
TRUE
disappointed, but are you surprised.
Thank you for exposing this case of honor killing. However, I am absolutely devastated that you did not take enough measures to protect Afzal that led to his killing. Very sad.
Afzal was killed to keep his mouth shut once and for all. Sad, but that's the country he lives in.
@@Dynamatrix2000 Oh, c'mon. Stfu.
OMG
@Dan Cooper Islamic culture? Bangladesh isn't the only islamic country and there are definetly others where that doesn't happen as often. It's not "islamic" culture it's culture. just culture. Has nothing at all to do with islam in any way.
@@mrm3837 "only islamic culture" 💯.!! 😂!!!
Blur his face: No
Cover his voice: No
Black background: No
Dead: Yes
Need to report this channel
So f****** irresponsible!
He died???
Ikr I'm so angry 😡
Ikr I'm so angry 😡
Anjali Sharma Yea , the killers tracked his location because Vice exactly showed where he was hiding
7:22 "Future generations should not suffer like this." You were a brave man. Rest in Peace, brother.
He is died😢 because of this irresponsible journalism they show their location in video & then the mf found him & kill him
@@seby826 and?
@@seby826 be happy that you dont live with them
Rest in Paradise Afzal you brought this case to light and helped a lot of people.
@@seby826 this practice is not in religion
Its sad to see the only man who was brave enough to voice his struggles, yet he died in vain.
Bro this is westerns jobs to show pakistani or Muslims hate way the Don't care about there life or other problems the just want make propaganda Muslims countries afzal made some good point but she must apply that point to judges our area leaders not to media just because media he have been killed else maybe he will survive telling them point wrong and and request them forgiveness
This documentary exposed Afzal, his location and his family's location and he was murdered shortly after this. All the many levels of family/police/court/government/journalists seem to operate with greatly diminished capacity. No wonder that area of the world is a mess.
That area is more like Afghanistan than Pakistan. Islamabad's governance does not reach those parts.
Does he really dead??
😤🤬😡🤬
What about their families?
Man can you please tell me more about this? I'm writing something and it would be really helpful if you could tell something about this incident
19:55 Shattered my heart into pieces knowing he is dead now💔
And the journalist revealed his and the family's location in the stupidest way possible!...Shame on you for being a part of Afzal Kohistani's murder by giving away their hideout!😡
Its true he is dead
He's dead?????!!!! 😭
@@anushkalols yes he's dead
Who
@@chrisbii7567 "peaceful religion"
This makes me so sad and extremely angry at all those who were involved in making this Vice segment. They 100% could have kept things way more discrete and instead decided to show the mountains, the land, the hotel, and she even described what they were doing to get there.
Bro this is westerns jobs to show pakistani or Muslims hate way the Don't care about there life or other problems the just want make propaganda Muslims countries afzal made some good point but she must apply that point to judges our area leaders not to media just because media he have been killed else maybe he will survive telling them point wrong and and request them forgiveness
-Says Afzal is on the run, hiding for his life.
-Provides no help to Afzal.
-Shows his face and location in the same video.
Is VICE trynna help the perpetrators?
Read the other comments, he was found and killed. Extremely irresponsible on part of vice.
Maybe Vice wanted to shoot another video about inquiring how Afzal died...
He was already in the public eye, and his case had come to international attention, so sharing his face was justified. As for the secret location, a) he was murdered, but in public, not there b) there's about a half-day's journey, some of which was on foot through a remote area of the mountains that wasn't filmed on the way to their home. There didn't seem to be any important landmarks in the footage of his home, so I don't see any problem there.
@@aydanrangel6505 The people who killed him was not a bunch of people but more of a cult. They have connections all over. And there are people who sells information in exchange of money.
@@Inert_. now at this point I'll believe this too
It's called a 'SECRET' location for a reason, you know?
Sahi kaha
Tell please
"it's gonna be a long drive, a couple hours up north." Chuckled the journalist...
It's not secret, everyone knows about it
A half-day of unfilmed journey through a remote area of the mountains is pretty good as far as secrecy goes, isn't it?
The video talks about an immensely serious issue, yet y'all are here talking about India vs Pakistan. It's quite ridiculous.
That's Bitter But a Serious Truth....Instead of fighting with Unhuman Acts and the Basic problem of A Poor peeson be fighting on Indian And pakistani stuff...
I would Request And Suggest u all Talk on Humanity instead of unworthy stuff...Don't come in talks of Politician they are making us fool and making money......
Yes, we read all cultures and books.But forgot to be HUMAN 🐵
Yes, instead fighting over boundaries fight over inhuman acts.
Armyyy *i had to say it*😂💦x
When I saw the journalist filming Afzal's location, I was afraid for him and immediately came to the comments section to find out that he was killed. Doesn't this journalist know basic etiquettes of journalism? Lack of common sense!
Afzal was murdered in March 2019. Just five months after this documentary was uploaded. I can’t help but think that a man who was able to evade murder for 7 years coincidentally died 5 months after this documentary. I’m glad I known their story. But at what cost?
Really?
@@toyirbasar3735 yeah sadly
The documentary was published in 2016.
source of your information???
@@JMalikZ well i am not that into this so i am not up for research thing .i was only curious
Vice should have been more careful, openly showing the surrounding area and the hideout like utter idiots. RIP Afzal.
When Afzal said he's the only one who working and support his family, now he died and I keep thinking who's gonna support his family. Ya Allah help his family😭😭😭😭.
Yes we will cuz we have faith in allah
Bro let me tell you a bitter truth there is no Allah and you have to review that which religion you are following that is based on fake perceptions
Speed Records how do you know there is no allah , you probably believe in science which is just a copy what the prophets have said
Bud Buck you people who don’t believe in Jim’s angels etc are the ones who are insane imagine believing that science created you scientists who don’t even know if there is life in the deepest waters those scientists who don’t even know if there is other life besides us why have we been created would you know the answer to that no ? How would all of a sudden a Big Bang be created it cnat be justified by saying it was there as atoms collided creating them , no there must be a reason and only god knows .To be fair idk why you decided to watch this video if you don’t believe in god
Bud Buck corona has nothing to with faith I’ don’t get how you make fals accusations without reading any of the Quran in it ,it says our life is a test we have to have faith that’s it and good will come but unlike u who doesn’t believe in it will just believe whatever is happening is cuz of our god no it isn’t there is soemthing called moral evil where humans have a choice of doing what they want but consequences come and that what all of this is all of those example you gave me is moral eveil
it took u half a day to afzal's family's secret hideout.... girl you're supposed to protect his location.
This is one example that journalism isn’t always a good thing. They weren’t discreet enough about his whereabouts.
They didn’t even try, assholes getting people murdered
@@SurfyStories He was shot dead 2019. It's really irresponsible of Vice to not even think about censoring out his (Afzal) and his family's location when they clearly knew they were in hiding.
@@monsoonchi y afzal was murdered?
Shame on VICE. 👎
Make sure you compensate them properly, VICE. Their bloods are on your hands.
@@sbsb4995 STOP SPREADING WRONG INFORMATION
I need to unsubscribe. Leaking personal infos when you know the man's in danger is unprofessional.
Oh it's more than unprofessional. It's unethical af, and they should know better!
The man in this video is dead in 2019...
he's dead now
These 'west' media wants content and reach aat the cost of people's lives
Disgraceful…
Vice is always so careless with sharing identities. They never have learned.
Absolutely right.. They're revealing the target and they think they are doing something right.. WTF VICE..
I feel like they do it on purpose, I feel sorry for the people they exploit who have no knowledge of the consequences from working with them. they are definitely very money hungry with no proper ethics.
@@floralbeautyful i agree, they can't be that stupid, they just don't care
@@floralbeautyful Everyone knows who that man on the run was, as they said, he was on international news. Vice is careful, they censor and delete stuff.
True, I saw another vice documentary where the voice of the person were altered but the face wasn't even blurred 🤣🤣🤣
RIP Afzal Kohistani, who died seeking justice in the country of anarchy
Not anarchy but lslam law
This is so ridiculous.. the person involved in this video is hiding for there lives and they are showing there location 🤦🏻♀️...
They killed him
OMG I’m feel sorry for the guy😥..
So sad...😥
I do respect each cultures. But if it’s causing death.. then it is inhuman
@Aarush Hecox I was like "it's the families hide out and your showing the roads and the families faces??.. maybe this VICE /reporters forget the BASICS just to have something interesting to post..
Vice: "he now lives on the run, with his family scattered across secret location"
Also vice: "couple of hours, up North" "even climbed a mountain on foot" and LITERALLY exposing his family's hideout and also their faces
Its like singing over the river and through the woods aloud and wondering how the wolf found grandma
Aghhrhhsjjebdb
Brown males..
As I was reading this the exact scene came on... my jaw dislocated with the shock! What the hell!
Shame on her
😞
This guy had a chance to start a new life and you filmed his location. Shame on Vice!
Rip Afzal!
Who is he what happened to him?
@@frankocean6676 he was killed by them
Before shaming vice, shame on Pakistani government for not protecting. He still would have been dead bcz lunatics are chasing him.
@@user-qz1dg3gh7d Pakistani government kia karay gi? Police ne krna hai
@@user-qz1dg3gh7d Pakistani government is shit.
Tears in my eyes. Afzal was a great human being. He was an inspiration.
Do you know Vice, you got Afzal Killed.
Do you know the shrewd mentality of the masses killed Afzal more than Vice.
@@jaidevtyagi1033 That's true but even Vice and BBC is responsible
@@krateproductions4872 Yeah they're but somewhat less than people are claiming them to be.
We as a society need to grow out of the authoritarian/conservative culture
Cases like these aren't even reported so without even knowing such things exist how can we fight it. So it's good Vice showed this but yes they should have been very careful.
But ask yourself should we really blame them(like people are blaming in comments)
Or should we show our anger/disgust to the shrewd mentality?
Jaidev Tyagi Of Course these extremists are to blame but if BBC took a little more care, the entire family would not have been wiped. The news channel should be both praised and blamed
@@krateproductions4872 these are not extremists, they're a community of people...
Their parents killed them!
That's the mentality we should change
I can't shake the thought of how you guys filmed his location, shared it on internet and played a role in his murder. Look at his family, his children, how can you sleep in peace knowing that because of you, Afzal Bhai is no more. He was raising his voice in favour of women, men and innocent people. You MURDERED HIM. May Allah grant him one of the highest ranks in Jannat-ul-Firdos. Ameen.
I know ....it makes me angry.The way they were filming his location.It was on purpose for sure.
Afzal is dead??????
@@babybellamy4589 Yes, sadly he is.
Maulana was lying
allah is the reason this shit happens.
I’m heartbroken to know that this man who was brave enough to share his story with you, has died because of your carlessness, you should take accountabily for your actions. May he rest in peace
the original doc was filmed in 2016
afzal was killed in 2019, its not vices fault
@@segginetahiit's their fault. They must have got the trail of his location from here only. They must be following him.
@@pleasyplease5719 well, think what you want
@@pleasyplease5719He never stayed in one place. He was constantly on the move as he explained
Don't follow that belief system. that is the issue.
Wow… they knew he was hiding and still showed EXACTLY where he was at.. showed which way too. Like wow…. How could they….
Bad reporting VICE. This was horribly executed. Putting these people in danger and giving away so much information-Appalling. Try enrich Your reporters with the skills they need to handle such issues with care!
Yes the ******* VICE led Afzal to death that guy was murdered in March because of the VICE shittiest activities to expose the hidden den of Afzal..
The Unplaybox no way, he was? During the whole documentary I was surprised that they were showing this much.
Keneilwe Phofu My thoughts exactly! This was too hard to watch 😢
Well at least vice told the truth for once
They SHOWED his house
Irresponsible reporting, shame on all of you for not protecting him more. You knew the risks
MIRCHI LAGGI?
@@sachahindustani2013 wtf
@@muskanchaudhary6322 Kya ho gaya? hai.
@@sachahindustani2013 mirchi kis baat ki lagi literally ek bnda jo apni life bachane ki koshish kr rha hai uski jaan ek reporter ki glti ke karn hui h like its a big thing
@@muskanchaudhary6322 pakistani tha marra acha hua!!
It’s a secret hideout...for a reason. Very irresponsible journalism!
He's dead
@@jabranelahi9456 He was killed months after it had little to do with documentary
Vice play a big role..
" reveal the hide out, reveal the person's face.. For what? For those murderers to come after him.. What's next? New topic for Vice.."
I suggest, unfollow Vice, unsubscribe, then report...
I am watching this documentary after 5 years yet nothing has changed, pakistan is still in the same position and on the edge of destruction because of religious extremism, terrorism, and corrupt establishment.
THEY GOT KILLED FOR CLAPPING DANCING AND SINGING ? OH MY GOD THIS IS OUT OF CONTROL ! IT IS ALOT WORSE THAN I THOUGHT !
Even Afzal Kohistani is dead, who filed the complaint against the murderers. He was shot dead yesterday(7th, March 2019).
@@imanishv Don't generalize pakistanis
@@imanishv Don't judge an entire country by the actions of some of it's people. There are good people and bad people in every religion, society and culture. I'm not Pakistani but I've been living here for the past eight years and the people here wonderful. So don't call them terrorists.
See documentary on honour killings, th-cam.com/video/98JWUtdj_Vg/w-d-xo.html where they killed 2 eleven yr old girls for rejoicing the onset of rainy season outside their own house. Worst thing is they kill not only the errant boy but his entire family as well. Its a f**ked up religion
(eye for eye tooth for tooth system) all dictated in a book of 7th century.
actually my great grandfather was a dedicated businessman in India...they were friends. You are an ignorant little fuck.
@Madematician
Lord please save the innocent from this wretched so called traditions
@@violeteyes4966 not gonna happen.
@Zack Smith everyone knows that's not true.
@@lipokyanger7685 and people say the left generalized.geez
wasted words
Aren Ozukum if there would be a loving caring god than such disgusting people and horrible country's wouldn't exist but there is for thousands of people no help or a way out of there horrible life situation. So if there is actually a bigger force who waches and has the power to actually stop everything than that force is a sick sadistic creatur!
Vice Asia, you are responsible for afzal's killing how can u reckless, shameless media did it an innocent men lost his life, so sad for his family.
And my ex husband wanted me to go there with him? He was fucking crazy NO AND HELL NO!
I know
Where? Kohistan
Don't worry they know western women dress like Onlyfan models so they won't honour kill you.
this is only a minority in pakistan, most of pakistans chill.
honestly vice should have done a better job at protecting the location of the interview with Afzal kohistani.....he was just shot killed in abbotabad today ...the same place where the interview took place and like always as it is in my country all of thus will be swept under the rug...sad day for humanity
he was murdered? today?
Depressed Dude yes unfortunately
While seeing the Video I too had the same question in my mind that is it safe to film in that location 😐
whattt I just rewatch this again... and saw this, seriously???????
I am so sorry to hear this. It breaks my heart that he was hunted down like an animal for no reason. Yes, Vice should have been more responsible. The world does not take the nastiness of this culture seriously.
I think we should all report this channel for revealing afzals location
You think the channel is the problem?
Yes it is a type of idiotic journalism but I feel sorry for you. You don't think to destroy this type of bloody customs existing in the society other than reporting that channel . Women is not a toy😞. RIP to afsal the genuine man😣
Soul of Mystery you don’t need to feel sorry if you don’t know what i stand for. Its okay.
@@Familychannel.123 I know mam. Your point of view is correct this documentary is one of the reason behind afzals death. But You just think this channel is the only problem they are trying to bring out the truth.. clapping is a criminal offense
Soul of Mystery I never mentioned “only”
We don’t even realize how privileged we are.. I feel so bad for complaining about small things. And it makes me so mad that I can not do anything.
This is true. It’s very sad. We all live great lives and live freely in these countries and we are not grateful for it. These people live isolated lives and have nothing at all and then people complain about immigrants.. they are simply trying to get away from torture they are born with. Sad
@@pcherbert644 Crimes like this happen rarely in the major cities the mostly happen in very small cities (almost a village) and villages because the illitricay there is very high they donot know what to do they cant base it on islam because it isnt true it's just that their ego's are broken and this happens in some villages and it is wrong but the village council does have quite a big role in this and in places like this people donot think rationally
@@hammadhasan1966
Even if literacy increases, due to social/religious rituals some literate parents still don't allow to date, speaking to opposite sex in public.
@@kunalmahajan9489 personally i dont agree with dating but i do agree with talking but sort of formally not hugging holding hands etc
I feel the same way.
Afzal is a real man and a man of real values. I know that you are in a better place now my brother the world had not been kind to you, you were the strongest of the strong and the bravest of the brave. Rest in peace.
The person may have lost his life due to the irresponsible journalist attitude of Vice News. Because his whereabouts were shown in the video.
www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-47480597 He died long ago, shot.
@@sameedstien6118 that's really unfortunate, He had to pay his life to fight for justice. #rip
@@undeniablyundeniable2621 Religion is the root of all evil.
@@sameedstien6118 its not really its because of the muslims faith in that area is flawed and stupid here in asia no muslim will do such thing btw im a christian
@@borgir3451 The muslim faith is flawed to it's core. I am an athiest living in hiding, because Islam orders muslims to kill anyone who leaves their faith.
What happens when an irresponsible journalists does interview? They put lives at stake resulting to the death a voice for justice.
VICE paid him for his story.
@@Dynamatrix2000 How can you be certain they paid him? Even if they paid him, it would be unethical and unprofessional to reveal their location and not have a contingent plan prior to recording the interview 😑😑
Lives already at stake, don't blame the journalist blame the corrupt culture
And thanks to vice he was murdered months after this video
Why irresponsible? Because they expose the disgusting culture of killing women as if they are property which is easily disposed of? Get a life!
Killed for clapping
Horrible
This is pakistan my friend..That's why india always called pak the place of terror..
place of hell
That's Islam for ya.
Dream lover that is wrong information showed in the video don't believe these shits
This is Pakistan
As an Iraqi, this shitty Islamic tradition, is not only in Pakistan, it existsalso here in Iraq, all in the middle east, and basicly most Muslim countries without secular regimes, this is just dissgussting
This is not an islamic tradition. No where in the Qoran is this kind of behavior tolerated. This is cultural, so shame the people and not the religion.
"Whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely." (Quran 5:32)
@@Yesnoletsgo Don't give these sloppy excuses, Islam and qoran contradicts itself multiple times.
And It is all fault of rigid 7th century traditions.
I’m not Muslim just a person with two eyes and a brain. These are tribal laws not Islamic laws. The two contradict themselves and in tribal communities the tribal laws win because of societal norms in those areas. It has absolutely nothing to do with Islam and all to do with competing tribes and reputation.
@@Lebanon_dontrue it happens in india too. Hindu women get killed for honour if they marry outside of caste
@@Yesnoletsgo then why mostly countries with Islamic law women suffer as hell.till when you will be acting like blind people.
Now you're the killer...exposing all their location...shame on you
Rohlupuia Ralte he was shot dead on March !!!
Its shows security level at pakistan
Exactly my thought...how can u expose them when u know they will be hunted for sure..shame on u
Exposing whose location exactly
@@kitykity434 afzal location where he hide
I cried when I saw the family’s hideout. I can’t imagine how horrify they felt constantly living in fear. I’m so grateful for the little things in life
Afzal was killed in March.
hes dead
Hey. Just wanna tell you that you are sooo beautiful.
vice showed their hideout to cause exactly this reaction. Without caring about the safety of this family, one of the few that battles this harsh culture.
She literally said" a couple hours up North" anybody familiar with that area would've caught on; Sh!t is sad.
When she said that sentence..... I'm so mad. What the hell is coming to her head disclosing the location.....it just insane stupidity
they ended up finding him after this came up and killed him, this reporter is terrible
+ the scenery and the village, professional would have easily realised where it is
also, that could have been said as a misdirection to throw people off his whereabouts.
Think they’re tryna snitch
3 months after they published this video, Afzal was shot dead in abbottabad, i dont think it was a good idea to reveal his location like this
You basically killed Afzal by showing his location and I hope you are ashamed of yourself. R I P Afzal. He shouldve never done this interview he would probably still be here. Vice you were completely reckless about this mans life how could you .. R I P Afzal my condolences to his son and daughter and wife and family. 😟💔
Hayle Boutilier wait when did it say he died
@@fight_me_boo2401 He was killed soon after this interview...its been a couple of month or so
@@komalkhan4949 So incredibly sad! I was worried when they were filming the last segment that details could give away his location.
@@ceilconstante7813 Being a Pakistani Its even more sadder to me because there is this sense of helplessness I feel and I cant bear to see these injusstices...More of a sad thing is that Islam is potrayed as the reason for this conservativeness and is used to justify these murders which is completely wrong...Its just the fucked up mindset of these people.....Islam empowers women...I dont know why and when Islam turned into something that oppresses women justifies killing when its not so....I was blessed to be born in a city and in a family where empowering of women is considered honorable...I feel blessed that my parents have always allowed me to spread my wings and follow my heart and for me Islam has always empowered me more to do so.....These so callee mullahs are brainwashing people into making Islam as something atrocious where happiness of a person doesnt matter and I'm so sick of people telling us that we are going to hell for things that bring happiness.....The way those girls were killed is atrocious and these kind of people never deserved choldren to begin with.....Islam told us that God is so forgiving...He loves us more tham 70 mothers...I doubt He would like his people to be killed over these minor things......Our society is going all the wrong ways....At first our society was so accepting and loving of these powerful womens but now😔 Fatima Jinnah is considered Mother of our Nation....Benazir bhutto was first female muslim to be elected as prime Minister..a feat that even some modern western countries jave failed to achieve yet....And we on the other hand have started to move in the backward direction...Our Founder told us time and again that no society can progress without their women playing an active role in the society and things have gone in all the wrong ways ....I just hope with Imran khan as pM we can finally say good bye to these patriarchal values and move forward and I myself am all in to help the women in my country to break barriers
He was killed March 2019, and this documentary shoot wayback 2016. The viral videos spread 2012. The killing for the girls and 2 brothers happen 2013. Just for you to know 👍
This is savagery of the highest order. What kind of a civilized society would kill someone for clapping and singing?
Crimes like this happen rarely in the major cities the mostly happen in very small cities (almost a village) and villages because the illitricay there is very high they donot know what to do they cant base it on islam because it isnt true it's just that their ego's are broken and this happens in some villages and it is wrong but the village council does have quite a big role in this and in places like this people donot think rationally
Islamic society
You can't call this society civilized.
@@arshdhaliwal2630 Not Islamic. These actions are not Islamic.
@@TheLegendSpeaker but these type of things are common in muslim countries womens are not allowed do any thing in islam
btw they didnt say its because of religion they said its because of culture
Honor killing . Who is it that the honor goes to? ? ?
Islam creates this culture
it is what it is. it part of relgion.
if you disagree your comments wont change anything here on youtube. go to those countries that you feel exploit islam and take a stand there.
Swee Yong you’re saying that cause you’re an atheist so stfu
@Siyovaxsh En-sipad-zid-ana Name one non-islam country that has this so called "culture"
As a Pakistani, I had the privilege of living in the northern areas for quite some time, and I really appreciate this independent documentary, and investigation of this case by your channel. I hope our hardworking bureaucrats must bring amendments further and further, and I repeat further improve the law and enforcement to stop such violent acts of killing women and other people.
Why are these people so backward in the North and why do they opress women so much?
Can you please explain why the video was considered so shameful?? I don’t have the cultural context to understand what motivated so much anger
@@guyincognito9410 it wasn't shameful at all, but now the problem is due to some cultures. They are quite conservative here in Pakistan. Therefore they wouldn't want to see their women even with their cousins celebrating anything or whatsoever.
@@shayanbalouch thank you for clarifying. This is so sad.
@@guyincognito9410 You're welcome, buddy, indeed it is.
Rest in peace young man 💔.
You have fought bravely for women's rights, but our judicial system has failed you yet again!
#RIP
Is he dead?
@@RAMIC-tv1ye yes 😓😥
@@seemakhalid8404 your government has let me him down
I just saw this video today. May his soul rest in peace. I am shocked to know that he is dead. Allah usey jannat de.
Barbaristan....
It broke my heart seeing Afzal's little son crying when he was leaving.
I wish i could help this family.
I hope for peole who kill others because of cultural and traditional reasons go to hell.
That's not very nice Nancy...
@@shak9558 It's not nice, but you could wish them to because of their own actions and twisted beliefs.
Honestly, the freaking honors that they are fighting for can't feed them.🙄🙄🙄
I've seen nothing wrong in the video.
And those youngsters were killed because of that.
So much punishments were done to them.
They were treated unjustly before they were killed.😭😭😭😭
Hi Nancy, I am also Pakistani and from the very same culture and traditions... And I swear I never liked a mouse in my life. These Kohistani ( Mountaineers) are here since 100s of years... Cruelty never lives last. This is illiteracy and nothing more than that... and unfortunately, the bloody Politicians don't want these peoples to be learned to know their civil rights and keep selling their dirty politics. It's the same as the one-eyed man in the land of blinds.
Thanks for the warning... I'll skip this emotional diaster
This guy was a good man vice needs to answer for revealing his location poor and unethical journalists
Jara un 5 k bare me bhi bol do jo faltu me mar di gyi aur vo bhi kisi ghatiya kitab me koch likh hone ki wjah se
@@singhparihar8530 bhai ap hindus ki geeta ko hum gaaliyan de tou kessa laage gaa aur jo millions fazool god or fiction stories hai cartoons ki? islam mai kahi bhi nahin likha ke yeh kaam karo yeh culture se nikla hai patriarchy misogyny se and islam buss as an excuse use karte hain 😐😐
Aena Mustafa hamre geeta par apko ek bhi verse nhi milegi marna kaata Innocent k upar.
Shame on vice for revealing his location and as a result he was shot after 5 months . The family should sue VICE .
@16:07 You guys took cameras, even recording the route leading to where his family was hiding wtf yo ♀🤦🏾
He was killed two days before your comment
@@neffelibatta7658 I know
@@PiscesSun_Capricornrising 😥
This is exactly what I thought. They basically helped the criminals reach the victims. How pathetic.
why anyone would even take an interview with these people is beyond me. They only care about the report that they want to write. Not about anyone's rights or lives.
This video told afzal's location and afzal got murdered shame on this channel
Noooooooooo
@@nailakofficial2026 yeah he is dead
MashAllah
Did he died😢😢💔💔💔💔💔💔
@@chechenboss1067 what is wrong with you? Why are you saying Mashallah?
It's disgusting to see these men treat women like crap to preserve their toxic masculine ego. Afzal you are very brave you did a great job. Only if there were more people like you, this would come to end.
Unfortunately he died five months after this documentary. Vice’s incompetence killed hom
These people are an inspiration for Western men living in today's disgusting Feminist society. They prove that is entirely possible to keep uppity whores in line in this modern day and age. The nonsense of Female equality could be stopped within 5 minutes if men in the West decided so. All those "strong and brave" Feminist women with their big mouth, all modern and emancipated, would shut up quickly if we started honor killings of Feminists in the West. No OnlyFans, no SlutWalks, no anti-male Feminist BS, just demure quiet.
@@urhunn7778 is this what your religion teaches you?
@@Anisa-wi5zj Religion? No. This is just common sense. As for my religion, unfortunately Christianity was infected with the Progressive virus long ago, before even I was born. It is such a sad state of affairs. I had to watch throughout all of my conscious life, how the leaders of all Christian churces are trying in vain to appease the Jewish, Progressive, Leftist intelligentsia. And the concept of Feminism and Female equality is in direct opposition with the teachings of God, in all religions.
women and men suffers both almost just as much in a country like pakistan and Iran. everybody is forced to live a life adgusted to the groups needs. if they don't, they died. over houndreds of years where simple acts of innocence had lead to death, forcing the people to adapt strict rules and social praxis that will keep them safe, all though loosing their freedom. that's why it's so brave for teenagers nowadays to mark their human selves dancing on tiktok for the world to see, protest against murders that would end up overlooked, craving change. people like Afzal and Fadime Sahindal are the bravest people we have had in a long time, loosing their lives protesting against the unfairness
Documentaries like these should be blurred for safety reasons...if you beleive that u uploaded this video for awareness then u must consider the safety of those ppl too especially when you're aware of how disgusting those so called leaders can be
Wtf vice? Literally revealing his location like that? And now he's dead? Why should you do that
I cant helieve this
@@lolaispure4296 how do you know that he's dead
How do u know he is dead
@@senjahoring2008 www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/a-pakistani-man-told-me-feared-hed-be-killed-for-exposing-honor-killings-his-worst-fear-just-came-true/2019/03/07/fb19e4ba-40ed-11e9-85ad-779ef05fd9d8_story.html?outputType=amp
@@aryan_kumar www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/a-pakistani-man-told-me-feared-hed-be-killed-for-exposing-honor-killings-his-worst-fear-just-came-true/2019/03/07/fb19e4ba-40ed-11e9-85ad-779ef05fd9d8_story.html?outputType=amp
Very bad thinking of these people
Pakistan is full of these people
Thank god. I am born in India🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
They are sick bastards
@@realprovider you think india is better 🐕
@Chaotic Amar Simply put,They don't.
I haven't heard about anything related to "Honour Killings" in india.
A girl who went to my high school was killed by her father shorty after we graduated. She was living with her boyfriend, but her father had not consented. She was out in the store I think and her father ran her over. He turned himself in, but afterwards her brother was interviewed by the news and he said he was sad but implied that she shouldn’t have disobeyed their father. She was such a pretty and kind girl. Such a shame. And this happened in the US, btw. The family was middle Eastern
Murders like this happen in Germany all the time....a lot of people from Turkey, the Middle East etc live here but don't adapt to western/german culture at all, they have created their own parallel societies....but if you point that out in public, you're considered a "nazi" by many 😒😒
@@lavish_1717 I'm not a politician thank you.
Your username tho 😂😂😂😂
Liyanna De Lioncourt but what u said is totally resist😒
you are a shia kaafir?@@lavish_1717
The westerners showing sympathy. Where's thier tears when it comes to attacks on Palestinian kids
My heart goes out to Afzal and his family. may Afzal rest in peace.
Who was he?
Afzal Kohistani was a man on a mission, a mission that he believed in and eventually sacrificed his life for. His struggle started in 2012 when he brought the Kohistan video scandal to our attention.
@@browntrash69 The Guy in the video, Who was On the Run.
Was Killed 5 Days back, by his Nephew, who shot him dead near abbottabad!
RIP
He was shots dead on 7 march2019
Afzal is killed by other people
Vice should be so ashamed. Such a disgrace you are for exposing his hideout and his family's hideout. Thanks to you he got murdered too. Is that want you wanted? Well then congrats Vice. RIP Afzal 🙏🏻
lmao its not just VICE. all journalists and i mean ALL journalists are selfish bastards. i laugh every time one of them gets killed while reporting in a secluded nation. journalists arent human
Sanpreet TH-cam videos are for watching not commenting #disgrace
meow Rockzzz WOW could u possibly b any denser? I’m simply wondering bcuz see there’s this little thing on YT that’s ALLOWS A VIEWER TO COMMENT on the videos they watch it’s kinda the whole point hell the clue is in the name ya no SOCIAL MEDIA?! 🤦♀️ I’m thinking u were not being serious because it would take an EXCEPTIONALLY LOW IQ to tell the girl that started this thread that YT IS FOR WATCHING NOT COMMENTING considering you had to have found the comment button or YOU WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO RESPOND!
So very sad that Vice would show them ANIMALS any clues to the innocent DANCERS whereabouts! This lack of responsibility is y I don’t watch Vice anymore heck I’m only on this video bcuz I accidentally hit it while scrolling by! But I saw ur comment & had to tell u how right you are! Vice shouldn’t be so irresponsible!
Sanpreet Kaur..you are absolutely right..Afzal wanted justice for all the victims and sadly he was killed because too much of his information was made public by Vice and also other videos made about this crime..RIP Afzal 🙏
I'm unliking and unsubscribing VICE just for revealing his location and being responsible for the Injustice that happened in any way.🖕
I did the same! Vice has to apologize for this
@@vawexa123 Appologize? More like pay his family or something. They lost their main source of income as well.
Please don't put up your middle finger, please be kind💘😄💕💙.
they lead them to his place and he was killed
same
Pakistan sach a hell country how did they kills girls and boys. This child also killed his father. How much pain will Afzal's family have.
If clapping while fully covered and seated is offensive, I’d hate to see their reaction to a twerking video 👀😳😮👀
gypsynikki yoooooooo 🙀😂
😂😂😱😱😱
You WILL get tortured...
Gurpreet Bhamra that’s the thing... they were already tortured for the clapping man 😥. I genuinely think the entire family would have to eradicate itself.. the shame levels would be too much for them to bare..
@@gurpreetbhamra9752
Not if we capture and skin them alive first
This woman has balls the size of basketballs. Like damn. Brave to go do that, seems like a lot of these men hate women on some level. Being a mans property would suck. I cant even begin to imagine how scary it would be to be killed by a family that should love you.
Tigress. These people are dangerous.
Ahhhhh... and what about those two guys who were killed or what about the guy who has been fighting for justice for nearly 3 years....?????? So screw you woman...
Seems like she isn't the one that's tiggered
Zahim Khan feminism also protects abused and hurt men, if you’d take the time to learn about true feminism you’d know this. just because it has the word feminine in it doesn’t mean its only for women, yes the main focus is women but not just women.
Challenger4Gaming “toxic masculinity” are you kidding me
Y’all this made me cry knowing that he got killed and he told his son he’d be back soon 😭💔
A whole lot of talk and no help whatsoever! RIP Afzal. You fought for justice till the end.
RIP Afzal 🙏🌸
This video is the proof of how irresponsible vice is in journalism smh 😞
Not just to you VICE, it is my humble request to all media people. Please don't film critical locations and faces in such sensitive issues.
Sorry to hear that Afzal was shot dead just few months after this documentary was released. I wish if we can take some lessons from such inspirational people and also demolish such barbaric traditions as soon as possible.
Vice just wanted the story. They don't care about anything else.
Country of NOT "men" but Spineless Cavemen COWARDS !!!!! AFRAID of Change, AFRAID of losing Control !!!! Uneducated COWARDS !!!!!
Pankaj gahalyan go and save ur own sisters first
@@jayedakhtar3188 Qur'an 3:28 MusIims must not take the infidels as friends.
Qur'an 9:5 When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them.
Qur'an 2:191- Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them.
Qur'an 3:85- Any religion other than IsIam is not acceptable.
Qur'an 5:33- Maim and crucify infidels if they criticize IsIam.
Qur'an 8:12- Cast horror into the hearts of disbelievers and strike them from their necks and every fingertip
Qur'an 8:60- MusIims must muster all weapons to terrorize the infidels.
Qur'an 8:65- The unbelievers are stupid; urge the MusIims to fight them.
Qur'an 9:30 The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them.
Qur'an 9:123- Make war on the infidels living in your neighborhood.
Qur'an 22:19 Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies.
Qur'an 47:4- Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them.
Qur'an 4:34- if you sense ill-conduct from your women, advise them first, if they persist, do not share their beds, but if they still persist, then BEAT them gently
@@jayedakhtar3188 u don't have humanity?
*Irresponsible vice Asia,they caused the killing of afzal*
G G clearly u didn’t even watch the video
@@Leon_arto They revealed his location and he was killed some months back. That's why they are responsible.
@@adityajoon5581 I was responding to a different commenter who deleted it. Ik Vice fucked up. The commenter had said “who is afzal”
@@Leon_arto that's so so sad there is really literally people like this in both india and pakistan, and the channel revealed his location
@Jack Daniels yeah😖
I’m 4 years late but I was just about to come to the comments & ask why are y’all exposing his location like that. Only to find out he was murdered due to his location being leaked thanks to this video…honestly shame on y’all
Scrolling through the comments, I learned that Afzal Kohistani has since been killed and many people here are blaming Vice for irresponsibly publicizing his identity and whereabouts. While I agree that more should have been done to protect him and others cooperating, if this video was originally published in 2016 and he was shot in March of 2019, he may not have been in the same place. Given his public protests, his identity (and image) were already known to those seeking him out and anyone could have followed him after he left a court appearance. They may have waited to lull him into a false sense of security to catch him unaware. Vice was obviously irresponsible, but the connection between that and his tragic killing is at best, correlated, not directly causal. This entire story is maddening and sad. We need journalists to tell these stories, however. Between the recent travel vlogs and the fact that this country has had a female Prime Minister, I'm so surprised that this is happening in Pakistan. It seems so uncharacteristic of a nation whose population is uniformly regarded as kind and hospitable. I guess this is the epitome of charity needing to start at home.
Prime minister of Pakistan is a puppet of military, elections are joke
She was shot
Because this country had a female PM in the past you’re “surprised” this is happening in Pakistan? Have you been living under a rock? Honour killings are rampant
Right? That’s like saying there’s no racism in America bc Obama was elected as president twice.
sis this documentary came out in 2018
Irony of the society...the culprits are living normally and the innocents have to hide...wow
Also, he (Afzal) was recently murdered
@@seilenthanglupho8919 are you serious?
@@seilenthanglupho8919 just checked...you are right...Afzal kohistani shot dead..... can't express the feelings right now :(
@@royalflight8860 let's just hope this will bring about some change for the better.
@@royalflight8860 some people even feel vice is indirectly responsible for the murder because he was shot in a location near where this interview took place and that vice should've concealed his identity. I don't agree with this, but I just hope nobody else shares his fate
Why they showed his face and location very irresponsible journalism.
Actually his face was fine he was already a public figure in national headlines.
Also they met in a hotel so obviously he lives somewhere else.
May be they never seen videos. They don't seems to have computer or smartphone. The word 3G 4G mighthave never heard in a place like that.
His family knows his face...but i guess someone could snitch
sad hes dead after few month of this video. rip
Im shocked to see this is happening in Pakistan..No women is allowed on road. This is very sad condition. I dont know whether India can play any role for raising their voices .
Indian hindus are raising the voice in support of afzal in the comments more then the pakistanis, humanity should be the first. RIP afzal you were too brave for justice.
The white saviour complex of Vice in this documentary is awful. The journalists cover this case and go back to living their comfortable western lives, leaving Afzal and his family to fend for themselves. You had the power to get his family out of there if weren't so concerned about racking up views from privileged "woke" kids. Absolutely selfish you, Vice.
100% agreed. Fuck Vice for this greed and negligence. They murdered this man.
Vice is evil what else is new
They disclosed his location and gave more details about him in the video and sad to know he got killed.
Vice has no power to put citizens of a foreign country on a plane and take them back to America or some other country. That’s not how it works. There not CIA...idk what POWER you think vice has, but its nothing but power of the press
@Itsjusta Hellcat Based
So every move that a woman does can bring them shame. Cool.
it doesn't even have to be fact. Anyone can just claim that someone did something "offensive" out of malice like the Salem Witch trials and the whole village will be after them.
It's called islam
@Francesca Buonanno Crimes like this happen rarely in the major cities the mostly happen in very small cities (almost a village) and villages because the illitricay there is very high they donot know what to do they cant base it on islam because it isnt true it's just that their ego's are broken and this happens in some villages and it is wrong but the village council does have quite a big role in this and in places like this people donot think rationally
And people putting this on islam please educate yourself
@Francesca Buonanno it shouldnt happen i agree and for the arranged marriages the marriage succes rate us very high while the marriages in the us end up having 52 percent divorce rate and arranged marriages are done with consent of the female and male it's not like their parents force them and if the woman says even once that she doesnt want to do it the imam (similar to priest) would stop the marriage right there i dissagree on arranged marriage thing but i agree in the honour killing point with you
@Francesca Buonanno don't blame the religion, blame the people in charge of the countries, Saudi is meant to be one of the most Islamic counties but the princes are taking over everything
Came back to this video and read some comments that Afzal has been killed due to vice showing his hideout. 🥺
Yes Afzal is dead now
And your sad the killer is dead?? Hes human how does he have the right to say when to kill someone ? Is he God? becoz God made us and god will take our lives when it's time not when he thinks it's time but you are brainwashed believing that's a way of life it's very sad nothing but hatred and murder and to top it off yall poor you dont get rewards for that ?what a wonderful God you have sounds like hes one hateful God I think he wants you all dead to tell you the truth and when you die your going to be surprise you were living a lie and you were deceived the whole time .
So sad , pta nhi kb wo din aaega job ndia aur pak dono me har ek insaan k jaan keemat samjhi jaegi, sabko apna political ullu seedha karna hai
@@Takeshwarsahu-m2c do h speak English?
@@marmarquez2250 Deepak is saying he wishes there comes a day in India and Pakistan when collectively we understand the value of every life, and not just blindly support political ideas without thinking of the repercussions.
where is Al jazeera , TRT now..... blinded by religion
Islam doesnt teach this, they are uneducated people, If this would have been the case in ancient times, Khadija RA would have never been able to marry Prophet Mohammad. Shame on these uneducated people who mislead the world about islam.
Education, the only solution.
Unfortunately educated people are supporting honor killings. I had heard about honor killings but didn't knew this Barbaric practice still happens.
@Meena Raju tf does that even mean?
i think he was trying to say the path where women aren't killed for no reason...
@Meena Raju what's a pedophile? Clearly you are unaware of the definition. Prophet Muhammad had many enemies during his lifetime we can agree? Why did not one ever make an issue of him being a so called paedophilia? Also why among his 9 some say 14 wives of his only one is questioned of being of young age?
Paedophilia is a condition where someone exclusively seeks younger mates. Cut the bull shit don't be a dummy in public,
One thing worse than being an idiot is proving to a billion people on youtube your an idiot smdh
you didn't even watch the full video
Do u mean halal education bro ...?
Damn this was in my recommendations, and I'm reading a lot of comments about this man being killed because of this... damn if y'all knew he was being hunted down, why wouldn't you guys be more private about such thing.... i know this is a year old video but still, be more careful next time, blur shit out, change the voice, or don't show unnecessary footage that can put these people in danger. Horrible, just horrible.
_Jojo Mar_ they should be out of jobs and replaced by responsible journalists
The people in the comment section are talking out of their asses. Yes the man got killed, but you dont know why. Do you seriously think these people sit on youtube and watch vice documentaries? You dont know if he got killed because of vice. They just assume it
He was a public figure already and was killed months after and I would be willing to bet my house that the village idiots watch Vice
_Jojo Mar_ Vice is always so fucking reckless.
Afzal got killed ? really ?
Love and support from India 🇮🇳 hope one day Afzal will get justice and everything will be alright. Hats off to the host & journalist.
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lol he'll never get justice, people are brainwashed with Islam and as long as Islam exists, Pakistan will remain a shit hole.
If Pakistan is going through the same thing indi a is going ( even though indi a is a growing econm y ) then Hinduism is also a brainwashing terrorist raping religion when it is not your statement is invalid.
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RIP Afzal. I am sure you are in Jannat. Brother you did whatever you could. Respect.
how so? the girls were prostituting themselves.
You cannot claim if his in jannah as he know what he did was wrong, he made the girls clap while he danced. This is against their culture. If you play with fire your going to get major burned
The above comments represent the worst of humanity and cruelty. These were innocent young people. How can you even think for a second their murders were justified!? They could have been a child of yours or a member of your family. Or perhaps you’re the sort of animal who WOULD murder your own so called loved ones.
Love, not hate
@the last Jedi bara nayek aman
But some man njoyed watching ladies dancing also..Wow ...