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- The 2022 Honda Civic SI is built on the 11th generation of the Civic, and referencing decades of history and driver love. We take the brand new Si on a great Los Angeles back road to see if we can find the edges, while debating the style and usability. Join us.
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This car looks so much better than the last gen. Reminds me of the great 90s civics in some ways
Yeah the more you stare at this design, the more you see shades of old Honda, quirky as it may be.
From the front to the B pillar, yes. Anything after that, give me a freaking break...
This comment reminds of a TV reporter asking a kid at Apple Store Eaton Centre in line for the new iPhone 12, what so good about iPhone 12 and the kid replied saying oh I m just buying because I love the new green color 🤷🏽♂️
@@SINGH-ing Iol I never said I would buy it on its looks alone
100% agree. Personally the 10th gen SI design was a dealbreaker for me. As a mid 30s professional, it was far too "boy racer." 11th gen is a winner. I only wish the US version SI was based on the touring trim like in Canada, with heated seats/steering wheel, wireless CarPlay/charging, auto dimming mirror, and the SHIFT lights..so cool.
Disagree. This Si looks much better than the previous. An adult won't be embarrassed by being seen in this.
Disagree with you. I like the 10th gen style, and those cocky adults that just could not get it. They need to get over themselves. The new 11th models looks too much like a VW jetta.
I'm just happy they finally high fived when switching seats
They absolutely solve the styling. It doesn’t look like a crazy angry cricket or whatever kind of bug anymore. It’s more classic and calmer looking
Lmfao the angry cricket the back of old gen for sure
Totally agree. Looks like a car that an adult (like me) that would drive and not feel like I was a teenager. Honestly from the side it has a little BMW 3 look to me. Love that. Sub $30k is also amazing.
As a 20 year old who is getting one of these cars here sometime in December, I absolutely love the styling. Way better than the last gen imo.
And 37mpg on the highway is great for a car that won't bore you to death. Used to have an 07 wrx 5 speed and it was so much fun to drive everyday. Now I have an 18 4Runner SR5 and it is cool, but I don't go off-road like I thought I would and it gets 17mpg. I live at the gas station.
I love the new design
My friend is a nurse and daily drives a Honda Civic Si. His weekend car is Porsche 911. Everything makes sense
I'm not in the market for this type of car but I have to admit I really like it. For the price & features, it's hard to beat if you're looking for something in this segment.
I own an 09 Civic SI coupe in Orange Pearl and I think the 11th gen Si is the best looking Si yet.
that high 5 you guys gave each other when switching places brought a smile to my face.
I could not listen to that Paul dude go on about the design. This is better than any old Porsche he drives. This is a beautiful sedan. It is a winner in market. Nuff said.
He's always critical of Hondas.
Excellent review! I like that this civic has smoother rounded surfaces compared to the previous angry looking hard angles it had in previous versions. This civic reminds me of the 90 accord sedan I owned for years and had fun modifying and autocrossing and it had 345k miles on it and still going strong when I donated it.
Great runtime on this review, not too long or too short; perfect. Loved the exterior windshield view of the road and the interior view looking forward part the reviewers and out the windshield. I could feel the curves...felt like I was on that road with you guys. Engine / exhaust sound work was superb...the best on any channel.
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Not an over correction. It Looks elegant. A $28k car that looks great instead of gimmicky cheap👍 can't wait to drive it! Btw, I'm 49 & like it.
I just got mine on 3/1. It’s my first manual and was very easy to learn on. Watch some videos on manual driving, and you will love this car!
I really like how it looks. Im really excited to see the type R but I am really considering buying one of these.
Awesome review! The fact that the Si is so good portends good things for the Integra.
It never ceases to amaze me how far cars have come in the past 30 years. My 1991 Civic DX hatchback was so primitive, in almost everyway, compared to this Civic. It did however cost around $9k new, so there's that.
Thank you for the great video!🚗
Have they really come that far? Or have they just turned into mobile phones that you drive? Or ride around in more accurately
That rear seat shot is AMAZING!
Totally agree.
I agree w/ Paul about how the styling has made it look less like the previous Civic and more like other cars, but, strangely, i like that about this car. The early sporty Civics had this: clean but sedate styling yet hiding all the mechanical and dynamic goodness inside.
Great review on point
You 2 are hilarious but u already know that the best part u ain’t even trying.
Great video!! 👍
Great review and jives with a lot of other reviewer comments, except Eat Sleep Drive who was a bit negative about the steering. What bugs me is that the new Canadian Civic Si is a similar price but comes with more features.
y'all giving each other a high five when you switched seats was funny and something a lot of us have said you need to do when y'all switch drivers
What was "close" I rewound it and couldn't see it. I've always been enamored with the SI and they've been killing in SCCA autocross. This is the review I've been waiting for on this car. I missed having a wrap up on this versus the competitors it would be cross shopped against, so hopefully you have time for a more extensive review.
Todd got pretty close to the wall on one spec and Paul commented. Also - we have this verses the GTI as part of Season 10. Thanks for watching!
Coming from a skeptical owner of a 10th gen si, I actually like the styling of the 11th generation and I love to hear that you guys are enjoying the car overall. Now I need to go drive one!!
Finally a 10th owner who isn’t hating on the 11th lol
Wouldn’t be a huge upgrade over the 10th I’d hang onto the 10th and use that money in mods
@@SIIKAP1 Former 10th gen owner here. The 11th doesn't seem like a big upgrade on paper, and in some ways its a downgrade, but I'm hoping they made improvement to the fun to drive aspect. I think the styling is less wild but will age better. I kind of want to drive one now
@@maximus9401 yeah, not much of an upgrade overall. But will still be nice either way. I really like the styling. I’ve heard it’s really fun to drive too
In my humble opinion the Accord is a gorgeous car especially at night with all the LEDs lit up in the front. For the life of me I don’t understand why the civic design team just won’t admit defeat and make the civic look like a small accord
Not sure what people are complaining about, this civic looks nice. Inoffensive, but thankfully less gaudy than the previous gen
If the headlights looked more like the Accord, that would be nice. Otherwise, the Civic looks better than the Accord for the most part.
Insight already looks like a small accord, and it looks gorgeous and better than both accord and civic imo, if they just just gave that this interior then it would be perfect.
Two different cars in suspension and transmission
Nice job guys and Hondas 38 mph isn’t too bad either!
I checked and here in Canada, this car is the exact same price on a Lease then a Mazda 3 Turbo. I think they are both good cars with the best fit and finish in this class, but value for money, the Mazda has more of everything. 250hp, AWD, Leather, ect...
It still cracks me up that Honda in the last gen initially removed the volume knob and out that slider on the steering wheel, people complained and the volume knob came back. VW in the new GTI decided to take it even further and thinks it’ll be a success…
Regarding the looks of the new civic. Looks are subjective and I personally like it. It’s more conservative that I like. I thought the last gen was way over styled. The only thing I don’t like is the overhang of the “upper bumper” as you call it in the video.
great review! Curious of its level of fun factor compared to the Gr86.
I’m waiting for mine to get delivered in blue!
clean dash like that is excellent, very pleasing to look at......many new cars now have too busy dash that can give you migraine LOL
The rear window and all of the things you are talking about are the reasons I'm here.. i love it.. its looks like a BMW to me.The old one suuucks.. it look's like an autobot or a decepticon.
I still really dig the last body style. It was cool in its own way. Just like with this one. I really like the sedan variant.
6:17 it’s like the amazing cents from the 99-06 saab 9-5
so sick
One of the reasons for handling is that it has some suspension bits from the Type R on the front.
What road were you driving on?
Would you buy a Mazda 3 turbo or the Civic si?
This car is beautiful
They keep bragging about the affordable price mean while dealers marking up $2,000-$7000 over
I just recently found out that all of the turbo civics are sandbagged on power numbers.
The mid- level “170 hp” model actually makes over 190 hp, and the si makes about 220 WHEEL horsepower. I’ll never understand why companies do this, but it definitely explains the extra ‘feeling’ of power ha ha.
The high five that everyone wanted.
I just reserved what will likely be a 2024 Si. I couldn't believe it when I learned the weight is only 150 lbs more than the S2000. That's amazing for a modern sedan.
Great car, but Honda definitely didnt "TRY" to keep the price down for America when the Si with more options cost less in Canada. I want to drive it.
how does the driving compare to GR86?
This is nice overall, but I think the 10th gen hatchback was an ambitious design and held nothing back. It just went all out and did not apologize for it.
There's actual buttons on the steering wheel??? Is that something new??? Did I miss something?
This is the Honda Civic I wanted when I got my driver license. 🥺
My wife is going to hate you guys...because now I really, really want one. I had a 2008 Civic Si Coupe and loved it. This is the first non-high revving engine Si I really want to get.
8th gen Si sedan or coupe > 11th gen Si
@@leospaceman2976I loved my coupe. But this car appears to be faster. I don't know though as I haven't driven one.
@@tomf3335 i had both at the same time and 11 is def punchier but so much more numb.
Just because something is different doesnt make it good. You can applaud the design team of the 10th gen for taking a risk but I dont know many people who werent very young that liked the styling. If you dont want your car to look like a gundam the design is a huge step up for me.
Yep the 10th gen’s were one of the ugliest cars on the road
Australian Honda Customers only get a choice of the top of the line model at a fixed price of $47 200 (similar to the SI here).
Awesome review, and I love the new Civic Si. Is there anything you guys can do to help with dealer mark-ups and price gouging? The problem is getting out of hand, to the point that I almost think you should've said under 30 grand if you're lucky enough not to get raked over the coals by bottom feeding dealerships.
This problem enrages us, but short of calling it out regularly on our Podcast, and encouraging buyers to never pay a mark-up, there's little we can do. It would be great if manufacturers restricted the flow of cars to those dealers, but that's beyond our control. Thanks for watching!
@@TestDriveVideos Thanks for the reply, and I think I understand where you're coming from. At least you're on what I consider the good side, the one that knows this stuff is wrong. I still think if we collectively talk about the problem loudly enough something might get done. Maybe someday automakers will facilitate direct ordering a lot more.
Market adjustment pricing has these at $36k. For a 200hp car without power seats, that's a different propostiion entirely. Great video as always, but I think this very handsome car ultimately offers too little for the actual price you'll pay to bring one home.
The interior is the gem in this generation civic SI. The weakest link is that anemic 1.5L turbo motor. I wish this came with the N/A K20 from the past SI. This could have been sold with a detuned CTR motor but then no one would buy the actual CTR when it goes for sale next year. Those are facts.
Would love to see a test between the Civic SI, Kia Forte GT, Elanta N-Line, and VW Jetta GLI.
Out of those cars, I've driven the Si and forte. I'd say the si blows the forte out of the water. Maybe it's cuz I didn't have it in sport mode. I currently have an 8th gen si and would love to get an 11th gen
@TestDrive Do the GTI vs. Si vs. Elantra N vs. WRX!
We have a GTI vs SI episode in our upcoming TV season. It will be on Amazon Prime and here on TH-cam after that. (Will be on our other channel, though).
I went to go put a deposit down on one, and they were asking $2500 over MSRP. Not a good value at that point
Does a drive like the GR86 but Fwd
He really said the last gen looks better and then criticized the "extra" flourishes on the current gen. The entire design of the last gen is extra flourishes.
I love the new design I don't know what they are talking about
They did solve the styling.
I understand a lot of guys want space (hence the civic getting bigger) but I just like a small car dimension. That and the weight gain makes me a bit nervous. But maybe I just need to drive it and judge then.
The hood got a LITTLE bit longer and it gained 45 lbs. It’s not going to be noticeable or an issue.
@@SIIKAP1 At least it is aluminum in this Si.
Under 29k MSRP
..when it hits the dealership it's 40k
Does it have auto stop/start? How does that work with a manual?
It does, and its fkn annoying. Brake or clutch in turns engine back on. Theres a button to turn it off though
While it's much better looking, it needs a major diet. The best one imo was the 2000 with the b16a2 that weighed 2200lbs with 160hp was a blast to drive..
Ergonomics wise how does this Si compare to the 2021+ TLX? Considering selling my TLX as it's too mature [for me] and the headroom for the driver is not enough.
Better space front and rear compared to the TLX
@@TestDriveVideos how tall are you two?
Wheelbase nearly as long as a 04-08 Acura TL. (107.7 vs 107.9).
Cars have been getting longer, time to accept the reality my man
loving my 2022 Civic SI especially since the tune, check it out!
I thought I remembered hearing that the previous car had a lot of rev hang. If that's true, is that something they fixed with this new model?
it has a lighter flywheel so it wont be as noticeable
Nice review scaled down mouse😅
Does it drive like the GR86 but Fwd 🤔 I’m also thinking of the GR86 Rwd or Fwd - I’m going to test the Civic first but I can’t go hard like you guys it just came of the truck on Wednesday…So I have to be gentle 😏 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
Any update on this? Which one did u like more?
I'm conflicted... I've seen videos saying this is one of the best cars to learn to drive stick on... also that the Si seats are very comfortable. This video says the opposite on both. Guess I'll eventually get to decide for myself.
The new SI would be a great car to learn stick on, as the transmission is excellent. But many of the cars that are easiest to learn on actually have softer and less rewarding transmissions that accept mistakes. In the long run you’d be happier in the SI. And seats are totally personal. We hope you get to drive one. Thanks for watching!
Could well be my next and last car
Finally a reviewer who is honest about the exterior. I thought I was the only one who thought the taillights were too big for the car and that they went too conservative with the design. I think it would have been perfect if Honda blended this design with the previous one. Keep some of the more aggressive elements from the previous while fixing the design flaws. I also think the car is too big to be a civic.
Too bad it doesn't come with a spare tire. I don't even see a dealer option to get one.
Been waiting for a 2 door si since….
Question civic si or accord Sport?
Or GTI
Civic Si
The Si haven't been a hatch like a while now.
Honda needs to make type R as AWD.
The ideal car would be the Si in the hatchback body style.
And for God’s sake, make the rear seats match the front seats.
Swapping my 10th gen for the 11th.. Already ordered... Orange pearl... Btw... The horsepower is underated.. Dyno shows 222hp 234torque
In Canada the Si car has all the touring features..
The 10th gen was a bit of a disappointment to me. It completed the task of a capable, affordable, and comfortable commuter car pretty well. But it really lacked a soul. Hope they made the 11th gen better in that department
Soooo, since most places you drive are a mix of smooth, good pavement and bumpy, fractured crappy pavement, this car, as a commuter, is overall WORSE than the 10th Gen. I don't know if I would want one of these. The 10th Gen had a great, stiff chassis, and a ride quality that was actually pretty pleasant most of the time. The ride quality was not one of the things that I complained about when I owned that car. What was, was the lack of torque in first and second gear, and the increase in stupid piped in engine noise in second gear in sport mode. Not bad around town, but on a twisty mountain road, the fake engine noise was so bad on second gear curves, that after awhile, I much preferred normal mode over sport. The ride was more compliant, it handled just as well, and you got rid of a lot of the noise. Did Honda make the current 11th gen ride quality too stiff? Let me know.
I think the Sport or Sport Touring hatchback with a manual transmission would be almost as much fun and much better ride quality.
I agree we need to see the sport touring hatchback manual review.
I found one in production but dealer wants $32k - Touring Manual in black
It has Audi A4 vibes for me
Love it... except for the red door panels and seats in front and black door panels and seats in back. Come on Honda, glaring cost cutting can ruin a car.
Still not good enough to leave my 2020 SI, plus no heated seats
Looks good & looks fun.
For some odd reason, the Canadian Si gets a lot more content standard (and is more expensive too, even in USD). Keep in mind if you go for the summer tire option ("Only $ 200") that if you live in a cold climate and want to drive year around, summer tires are not recommended for near freezing and below temperatures. (Some suggest switching over to all-season tires when you get below the mid-40's.) So, if you need a second set of wheels and tires, this "only $ 200" upgrade to summer tires from the factory, could necessitate you spend another $1200-1600 for winter wheels and tires. (I' had to do this for my BRZ. Bought some Sparco wheels and Blizzaks.) If you want the extra slice of performance from the summer tires, go for it. But just beware that you may have to spring for a winter set. Better to understand that before you check the "summer tires" option box. BTW, I had an '02 Si (yeah, the one everyone hates, but due to its unpopularity, I got it in early '03, new, off the lot, for 14,999!), and with Blizzaks it was really good in snow. Only issue I had was on a slow approach steep driveway with about 8" of snow. Other than that, it was like a mule. Happy shopping and driving!
I just got it in black. I disagree with most of this review. I actually prefer it looking less sporty..because its NOT a type R. Handles amazing and is comfortable. My literal only complaint is the hond Bluetooth audio lag is complete trash.
Sounds like you agree with a lot of the review but disagree on the styling. Congrats on a great car and thanks for watching.
Couldn't disagree with you guys more on the styling. To my eye its more mature and less embarrassing to drive as a mid 30 something lol, especially the hatchback.
Todd likes this generation much more than the last. Paul is mixed. Glad to have you watching, thank you.
I actually like the more conservative styling. It has a more mature look.
Need to add back heated seats. Rides well but looks bland. Shoulda been a hatchback.
Is it me or is the si better than brz?
Let's see. Economy FWD sedan with tiny turbocharged engine vs genuine RWD sports car with bigger, more powerful normal aspirated engine. Hmm....
To sum it up yes Billy is a daisy picker
I think this car is great to learn stick .. easy clutch perfect shifts .. best car to learn on …. Not sure
He knows what he’s talking about even his passenger was like yeah sure … it’s made for people to learn .. ease of use
Definitely think Honda improved the looks. The 10th gen was to over styled for my taste.
10th gen coupe=best looking
8th gen=best sounding
11th gen=nice TRD Camry
It drives nothing like the TRD Camry
I think this car looks pretty decent, but I agree with everything you criticize about the styling and yes, the biggest gripe is the tail lights are too enormous.
yes that vertical face is ugly....its very similar to the accord..... and i think that is the only reason why camry beat accord in sales
Honda lied ! If you dyno it’s got 222 hp not 200 hp