Thorzone Mjolnir Hybrid GPU Build + Fixes / Final Thoughts
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- Kickstarter and build below
Check it out here: bit.ly/2rpwLhw
ASUS Z390-I Strix: geni.us/Iwfnw5A
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Initial video + testing here! th-cam.com/video/teUaQpxIqow/w-d-xo.html
Feedback and fixes: www.reddit.com/r/sffpc/comments/e7xxtl/improvements_so_far_mjolnir/
I am glad you revisited this case. I am impressed by your work ethic.
What work ethic. He’s got the easiest job in the world.
New units for noise levels:
Not spinning -> ramping -> on fire
the entrance is dope!
putting that probe lens to good use
Was really well done!
3:13 with the heatsink fins arranged horizontally like this, there's probably almost nowhere for hot air to escape. One side is blocked by the RAM, and the other - by this massive I/O shield.
Yeah that's a bit of an oversight - rotate it 90 degrees!
Hey Ali, love the in depth content you make! :) Quick question, are you going to feature the vertical cases Sliger's been developing on your channel? I'm quite interested in them and your flawless testing is forever welcome.
I would love to! I'll get in contact with them and see if they have any available for sampling.
That opening shot is worth a like on it's own!!!!
Perfect build, perfect filming, perfect editing as usual. Cheers from France and congrats m8.
switching from phone to PC just to see the vid in 4k
same lol
What for? even 720p has more pixel density on a phone at 6" than 4k on a 27"...
@Andreas Yeah, I keep forgetting I see better, than most people with better eyesight.
@Andreas You can enjoy content regardless of screen, as long as the content is actually good. No need to go out of your way... If it was 20 minutes and longer, then I would understand, but when it is "Because 4K" Makes no sense to me.
@@WildStyle higher pixel density means nothing when the screen is so small.
Awesome review - however I think the best combo for this case would be full air cooling for both cpu / gpu and instead of that radiator add another slim fan - I think temps will be much more balanced that way all around - I would personally be really interested in another video exploring that possibility. Cheers
Dare I say this is better video footage of the case than the official source.
No doubt that it is! We can't match Ali's legendary B-roll skills ;)
Great video! I'd love to see a revisit of this case when the finished version ships. They also added an option front panel with a fan which would be cool to see too. Thanks!
I wish you’d share Air cooled CPU numbers. Last video CPU was watercooled and on this one you didn’t mention CPU temps.
For reference, Thorzone's own testing had a undevolted 8700 (non-K) hit 100 degrees on air, lol.
I’m aware... but it’s nice to hear the independent reviewer opinion.
The short answer is not to air cool your cpu in this case
Agreed, if the only way CPU thermals work in this case is via watercooling with an AIO, then there's no point exploring hybrid cooling for the GPU unless Thorzone decides to implement something that can extend the volume of the case to accommodate other hardware. Thorzone's last test didn't work out too well, but they've changed the panels to provide more airflow since so would be good to see revisited videos once the production units are out.
That intro shot🔥
Love your channel, camera work, lighting and focus on ITX / SFF. Do you do everything by yourself? Really great work.
Thank you and yes!
@@optimumtech Great work! Also gotta mention I like your thumbs + descriptive title. No cryptic clickbait bullshit title and silly face thumbs.
opening shot was dope af
Thx for another high quality review. Its so hard getting a Ghost or M1 in Germany.... :-(
Ich weiß 😔 Würde auch echt gerne eins kaufen
Are you going to review the Sliger Sv590? Also if you could get your hands on the sfftime P-ATX case, that would be amazing. It’s a 9L console shaped case that supports full ATX motherboards. There’s no video coverage of the P-ATX anywhere.
I would be glad to send him one P-ATX for review, thank you for mentioning :)
that opening shot though!
I'm still very excited for the Mjolnir. I've been basically expecting the results you posted regarding thermals. I'm planning an air-cooled build, with higher end hardware but no overclock. While a 120mm AIO can really help cool one component specifically, it seems to me it then becomes a bit of a choke point for the rest of the hardware as a whole. I'll be using two 120mm fans, likely as exhaust since the front of the case is vastly open. A glass panel on the CPU side, and depending on thermals when gaming, which ever side panel I'm comfortable with for the GPU side. The Thorzone team is really committed to making this case the best it can be and even now are making some last minute changes (but quality, well thought out ones) in time for what seems like before the shipping production batch begins. It's certainly not a beginner friendly case to build in, but then again, most SFF cases are not. I've got quite some experience with cases around this size, smaller and larger, and have confidence it'll suffice for my needs. I've always been interested in the Loque Ghost S1, but, always felt I was better off just going with an NCase M1 (as I too, would want a larger top hat.) Where as to make a good internally matched/aesthetically pleasing build, I've always felt the Dancase A4 was too limiting. I'd also like to say that your cinematography skills are quite good, and these videos were also quite good as well.
I feel like you are at a loss then because a ghost with both components cooled on air L12s and gpu stock cooler would be great in an XS config. The only real upgrade would be Ncase and everything on air.
@@Madhawk1995 I like the aesthetic of the Ghost but prefer it second to the NCase, and the Mjolnir most. I had a fully custom water-cooled M1 before and though it was perfectly sufficient I want something smaller because I like the idea of going as small as I can and keeping an aesthetic I like. I'm annoyingly particular.
I wish they would make it slightly taller so you can have a second 120mm radiator and fan under the mobo so you can either have two 120mm rads with fan for the cpu and the gpu or dual fan 240mm rad.
Please do a review of the Dice Cases Flow! The creator has been talking about sending you a review unit. The case should be up for pre-order the beginning of January. I can post the link to the forum post if needed!
For sure, they've been in contact. Really interesting case!
ow that hurts
Amazing as always, i don't miss any of the videos on this channel, because i love the quality, movements and how dynamic it goes..; Please i would like to know the the camera setting you use on your videos shots, i have a6500 with the same you have-Sigma 16mm f/1.4 & 30mm f/1.4 ... please if you don't mind writing down on the description --> ISO= Speed= & Aperture= will be appreciated... Thank you
Can you have cut outs in tempered glass? Maybe having similar holes in a tempered glass side panel might be a way to see your components and still have decent airflow.
Oh my god that noise level. Crazy. 😳
Loving the new Blackmagic 4k footage. Keep up the great work.
That was a very unbiased and logical review on a case that honestly just sucks 😕 🤷🏼♂️good job!
yea I thought it kinda did too :\
Check out the latest updates on Kickstarter - might address a lot of the problems shown in this video.
Regarding the AIO impact on the PSU, I have a slightly different than normal setup in my A4 that works well:
I flipped the PSU from the normal layout so my AIO in the GPU chamber intakes air, it goes through the rad, and the PSU directly takes that air and exhausts it out of the case.
While it does mean warmer air for the PSU, it also has basically 0 restrictions in the airflow path, so it's basically a non issue. Think that's worth consideration if possible in one's case.
wow very honest review.. you too good bro. keep it up
Hello I hope you can read this optimum tech. Can you do normal radiator cooling with expensive fan (noctua) vs a push pull cheap fans setup? Buying twice the number of cheap fans for push pull is still cheaper than 1 noctua. Which setup can get cooler?
You should've flipped it and made the fan as an exhaust out the top.
If you can't put in an L12 or similar, I suspect you need to use the water cooling for the CPU. It should still be exhausting air out the top, since as you know, you don't want hot air to hit other components.
Great video as always, very impressed
Did you get a probe lens? That intro was 👌
Nope :P My Sigma 18-35 just fits into the interior shell of the case!
You really need to swap out that PSU fan with a Noctua. I did it to my Corsair SF600 and the fan is inaudible over my relatively quiet AIO fans.
Jonsbo A4 case build video would be epic. Sandwich design, 2 intake fans, 240mm AIO on top, could be one of the best high performance itx-cases! Check it out!
How do you mount the noctua fan to the c7 ?
Great video as always Ali , editing quality is out of this world ! Do you have any planes to review the Nouvolo Steck ? It would be nice to see a fair comparison between it and the Ghost considering it's almost half the price of the Ghost .
Listen bro, if he's going to review a ghost knock off then he should review the formula x1. It is even better when it comes to 92mm aio, side panel tolerances and top hat tolerance. Bro, look at how clean this is. translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=www.chiphell.com/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D2015599%26extra%3D&xid=17259,15700002,15700021,15700186,15700191,15700256,15700259,15700262,15700265,15700271,15700283&usg=ALkJrhgo4X4NUABfsMyeBw7GyV_DdRRvPA link to buy: item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=594507653301
@@Madhawk1995Sure the X1 is a beautifull knock off but considering the price ( 212 USD ) one might aswell go for a true Ghost + doesn't seem to offer any better aircooling ( which the Steck does ) and im not even mentioning all the hassle that one has to go through to buy this case from Taobao ! All things considered the Steck is a much more interesting comparison .
Any plans to review some of the cheaper ITX cases like the Metalfish G5 Plus? Or is your focus primarily on the more premium stuff?
Many come and go, but the ncase m1 is by far the best case out there
Already thought in the first build to flip the PSU.. And wouldn't it be possible to route the cables on the GPU side and then back to the other? I think that would improve cpu termals a lot. A pitty that a 240mm radiator doesnt fit in there.. Would be a beautiful case then!
You should review the nuovolo steck as a 'budget' option
Tek Everything has done a couple videos on it and used it for a while.
@@jonny727272 I've seen them, but they don't really cover the same things Optimum does :p
Did I miss something or was there no testing for a negative pressure setup? Wouldn't a case like this benefit the most by not dumping heat from the radiator directly into the system but rather exhausting that heat instead? It looks like they could add more ventilation vertically on the sides, at lest 6-8 more rows of those ventilation cutouts on each side would probably help a lot. With the tight tolerances I highly doubt anyone could fit dust filters on the interior of the sides to better facilitate a negative pressure setup though.
Liked just for that intro.
Yesterday buying z390 and black ridge. Fuck it!
They could have put holes in the glass for air circulation.
You should liquid cool your NCase M1 v6, im interested in doing a build with that case
Would it be possible to use the Aio MasterLiquid Maker 92 in this case? That could be interesting ... if it actually fits ofcourse
I think the whole concept of cramming all those components into a small space and either in- or exhale hot air from or to each other does not make sense. I like the general idea of those liquid coolers. Heat is transported away effectivly and space efficiently. But then it is transformed into hot air again, which is then blown on another component.
If you have to make a sandwich design work, maybe a sort of central air duct might help. Bring air in from one end. Maybe with a fan and an aggressively shaped nozzle. Collect the air into a flat ducting, which brings cold air to the inside of the sandwich. Then both sides (e.g. power supply and radiator) can use that air for cooling and exhaust it to the outside.
Otherwise, maybe a sort of external cooling would be very effective. Where air intake and exhaust are external.
Nice case but I prefer my sliger SM550. I still prefer beefy aircooled GPU. With Sliger SM560/580 you can use aftermarket gpu cooler like artic accelero. Even SM550/570 you can put 2.5slots gpu that can stay pretty quiet even on load (best case for aircooled gpu in your graph)..:D
Recently found your channel, instant fan. Looking to step away from standard ATX. Doing a new Ryzen 9 build but not replacing my GPU. What ITX case would you suggest that can safely fit a ASUS ROG STRIX 2070TI and an NZXT aio for the CPU (or corsair)? Again love your videos, production quality is great.
This case looks dope, but the amount of heat that throws and how expensive it is my wallet will be crying for a long time.
Thoughts on if a blower GPU in "stock" config would alleviate the GPU temp issues in that format?
why yoiu swop the fan noctua slim corored black? is that fan better performance than crayorig c7 g bundle fan?
i love itx thanks for a good video
So hopefully, we’ll see a liquid cooled setup tried in this soon? Also, did you delid your i9 9900ks in your personal ghost s1 setup?
Was his last vid on it water-cooled?
Do a video on the nuvolo steck
4 years and still waiting
Did you do the opening pan with a probe lens? Great video, as always. :)
Nope! Would have looked cool with the probe lens though. This is with the Sigma 18-35.
@@optimumtech Wow, you had me fooled. Good stuff.
Getting a bit of a PS2 boot sequence vibe from that opening
What an amazing case isn't?
I'm more a fan of picking low TDP, but powerful parts for ITX builds rather than shoving in the hottest parts you can find and THEN try to undervolt and cool.
Kristoffer Johnsen same, it’s a lot more practical
@@hitmanslayer3003 its also not practical to spend 100+ on a case :D the people buying this crap (sorry but its true) dont care, they just want it to look "good"
Please do a review of the Inwin a1 plus 😊👍
So when are you going to do a custom water cooled loop in this case?
Looks cool but if never build in this. Looks like a pain. The ghost was annoying enough lol
You know with direct airflow you prob dont even need a vrm heatsink like that. The Noctua is honestly prob quieter anyway tho.
what about the old SilverStone FTZ01, RVZ03 or Milo??
The built-in PSU cooler is not particularly good. I exchanged it for a 92mm Noctuah. After that it was quiet.
Dude. The intro zoom through the case... What camera and lens did you use for that???
Probably a stupid question, but is it possible to manufacture a perforated tempered glass side panel?
Any chance you could attempt to get ur hands on a Sunmilo T03? 10L and can fit a radiator and full size(ish) gpu.
Would a asus rog strix b450i + Alpenföhn Black Ridge + 92mm noctua fit?
The Ghost S1 may occasionally be available on Amazon but I've *never* seen the top hats for sale and it's kind of useless without them...
The top hats are on Amazon too man.
Will you be revisiting this case now that it’s hit its final release?
I did a build video in this case and its a pain...lol
Are you going to review the nouvolo steck case?
Please review the In Win A1 plus.
They could just use a quality acrylic for the side window and have the same cutouts as the metal side panel for both airflow and looks.
Can this be used as a eGPU when not using the PC side of it.
Could you review the Custom_Mod mini ITX cases like the FX stl 4.7?
That intro tho
Isn't the radiator at the bottom flush with the desk? And aren't those liquid cooling tubing obstructing the airflow too?
I would raise the case from the desk at least 5mm
The case has a feet that raises it exactly 5mm, they just designed it so that it looks like it is sitting flat for a clean look.
@@jm8080ful wow, but if the feet extends all the frame, where does the air come in/out? 😣?
Would people buy a mid tower version if ever they make one?
plz make a test about sg13
hes so swole, whats your juice stack?
probe lens are useful for these kind of impressive b rolls, aren't they? nice intro ;)
Qhen will this come out?
Sandwich layout cases are long gone option for me now that I've bought the impact dtx, but I don't see how this case at $300 would be an option when the ncase m1 and ghost s1 exist for less.
It may say $300 for the case, but on the kickstarter it's closer to $400 because shipping costs and tax rates are insane. For a case that hit 100C on an 8700k on air.
thank you for this. i have a dan a4 sfx v3 with asetek 545lc and ryzen 7 1800x and vega 64 reference. i was able to tame the vega 64 reference cooler with undervolting and custom fan curve. but im toying with the idea of using the 545lc aio to cool the vega 64 with a modified nzxt g12 to fit vega 64 die . dan a4 case layout is almost the same as mjolnir minus that i cant flip the internals. do you think its worth it? ill just air cool the 1800x i have a spare c7 and noctua 92mm slim.
Do you prefer the "Thorzone Mjolnir" over the ghost or which one is currently your ITX pc @Optimum Tech?
Kent Jensen sidearm T1 currently.
Hello everyone! what do you think of the in win a1 plus?
Some question about case. i have a ghost with 2070 super, but it picked maximum 80 degree when i play games using qhd monitor.
Because of this reason, i am wondering to buy mjornir. But i will not use aio on mjolnir.
Is it worth for me? How about your ophinion?
First off I just want to say I love the channel and you always have a well thought out opinion on everything you review/explore.
I bought a Ghost S1 based on your feedback and recommendations. Now I am in no way saying you have any responsibility to the quality of their products but I think it may be prudent for you to look into issues people are reporting around products. The colour mismatches, the poor customer service and the quality control are three things anyone buying a Louqe Ghost S1 needs to be aware of. I would advise anyone about to spend their money on any of the more high end cases to go look on the SFF redit\discord. You will find some very helpful folk who have gone through it all before.
My personal experience; There are clear bends in the bottom plate and the circle piece of threaded metal has come out of the SSD caddy so you can’t actually remove it. Top hats are rarely available and are in most cases a different shade. It’s such a shame as the case really is beautiful. I hope they get their customer service and quality issues under control.
Sorry for the rant!
Will a RTX 3090 founders Edition fit in that case?
No it wouldn’t 😞. Triple slot gpus aren’t supported
Did you try flipping the radiator fan?
Are you sponsored by intel ? Never see you build with Ryzen. But complaining just curious.. keep up the fantastic videos
Absolutely not sponsored.
You'll struggle to even find a pre-roll ad on my content.
Hey guys! Anyone have idea about cooling 3700X with a 120mm AIO cooler? Under voltage is accpeptable.
Is it fine to leave these small form factor PCs always on?
Shouldn't be an issue if having a high quality PSU and good overall cooling
i was happy to see the "fixes" part but i didnt notice any case volume fixes in the first video you said under 10l in this video you called it 10l
how about going to the middle and actually start saying 9.7? remember the balance of the universe
Louqe Ghost s1, Thorzone Mjolnir... Odin something next year??
Diaz Aryagung Yes
Is it possible to use the 92mm AIO from the Dan A4 in the Ghost S1 without modifying the Case?
Thinking about cramming a 3700x with an 2070 Super in the Ghost S1 without Tophats once the case is in Stock on Amazon de.
I'm pretty sure the ghost can fit a 120mm AIO under the PSU.
why would someone put a card that size anyway