GPU Deshroud Mod - Mindblowing Thermal Improvement

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  • @optimumtech
    @optimumtech  3 ปีที่แล้ว +480

    For those asking - of course the "stock" measurement was done after fixing the mounting fault.
    Otherwise we'd have no idea how much of the thermal improvement was due to de-shrouding versus the tighter mounting.
    The footage you see from 3:29 was when I first realized how bad the problem was - so I fixed it, installed the original shroud and fans, and re-tested it to give us the "stock" / before de-shrouding measurement.

    • @ZangetzoMTSGameSpot
      @ZangetzoMTSGameSpot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks! You should add some EU links too sometime! ;P
      Keep up the good work love what you do around here! Cheers from Portugal!

    • @piotrkozowski4230
      @piotrkozowski4230 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      U should do a vid about deshrouding rx 5700xt red dragon in ghost s1 + 2 new slim noctua fans (sterrox 120mm ones)

    • @OugaBoogaShockwave
      @OugaBoogaShockwave 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i am running gtx 970 so this doesn't help me much BUT i think i can get away with doing a mod like it but i'll lose my SLi set up.
      Am running my rig longer then usual waiting to build a new PC but this may be a option when considering doing Some OC, i generally don't like to OC but having 2 cards & sli not being used much these days opens up possibilities.
      THX dude !

    • @ignaciojuarez2327
      @ignaciojuarez2327 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      please review the steck nouvolo, i really want a ghost s1 or a T1 but they are imposible to find.

    • @lazy5877
      @lazy5877 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I did this with my GTX 560Ti many years ago. On my current card there is a warranty sticker so I will do it when warranty ends.

  • @Arek_R.
    @Arek_R. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1451

    No wonder results are solid when every GPU manufacturer blocks all the heatsink with plastic and RGB...

    • @Arek_R.
      @Arek_R. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      Also one of the selling points for which I chose strix version of 2080Ti was that extra fan headers.
      But it's quite useless.
      It's 4 pin yet has DC control and no way to change it, so if you have RGB fans you get them turned off, also they have quite crappy control logic, by default it's something where it's off until temperature reaches 60*C and it goes right to 100%
      Theoretically you can change it in asus' GPU tweak software but it's garbage and it doesn't save profile on GPU, so if you restart the PC it goes away, even if you run the software on startup it still doesn't update those settings.

    • @gabo007x1
      @gabo007x1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      If you use shitty rgb fans for a deshroud mod you might as well not bother at all, though lmao

    • @ivchatov
      @ivchatov 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Arek R. Yeah, that’s why I just leave the GPU headers empty and control the fans under the GPU via motherboard. I use FanControl, very basic and doesn’t even have a startup at boot option, but it’s really intuitive and just works.

    • @Arek_R.
      @Arek_R. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@gabo007x1 I didn't deshroud it and I use blue led fans not RGB ones...

    • @heni63
      @heni63 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ivchatovyou need to make a desktop shortcut and put this shortcut into: win+R, type "shell: startup"

  • @Quazetiq
    @Quazetiq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +497

    I figured this video would be coming after the huge amount of de-shrouded systems in the last ITX systems showcase. Great work yet again, the quality of these videos never dissapoints.

    • @user-xm5to8dt6q
      @user-xm5to8dt6q 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, I just modified my asus strix 2080ti in my ncase m1 after watching this video

    • @ruslan_yefimov
      @ruslan_yefimov ปีที่แล้ว

      After seeing this, I've started doubting whether waterblock is even necessary at all :D

  • @robl5027
    @robl5027 3 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    A 4 dBA *and* 20°C drop is immense, that's a great approach to making a whisper quiet system.

  • @jsharp9735
    @jsharp9735 3 ปีที่แล้ว +641

    They need to start selling GPU with just heat sinks with no fans, so we can use our own.

    • @superbanana1784
      @superbanana1784 3 ปีที่แล้ว +129

      + provide normal fan headers 🥰

    • @SalvoDan
      @SalvoDan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Or with a socket for a AIO water cooler, like the NXZT G12, but covering the other components too.
      Why don’t NZXT make their own graphics cards? They make their own Motherboards.

    • @jsharp9735
      @jsharp9735 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@superbanana1784 Yes, but I used the pwm to mini pwm fan cable when I used my morpheus.

    • @NonsensicalSpudz
      @NonsensicalSpudz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Neiva71 making a product does not factor the people who work the line, into its cost to make

    • @daemonbyte
      @daemonbyte 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Or one of them could just do this themselves? They'd get the fans much cheaper and let's face it, plenty of people will pay and extra $30 if they can get this kind of performance boost

  • @albin3399
    @albin3399 3 ปีที่แล้ว +202

    GPU board partners really should be making a heatsink design that allows for customers to add their own fans. Similar to how the raijintek morpheus fans are attached.

    • @illietw
      @illietw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      or just partner with Noctua or Arctic and add some good fans to their design

    • @gabo007x1
      @gabo007x1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@illietw As if GPUs weren't epxensive enough already. Besides, if your airflow isn't complete ass and you buy a good model, temps and noise will be excellent. In my Inwin A1 I run two fans as intakes below my unmodded Strix 2070 Super and the GPU fans never turn on.

    • @silmupelaa6349
      @silmupelaa6349 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@gabo007x1 I gues you never play anything?

    • @GoetheNorris
      @GoetheNorris 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Morpheus II still best upgrade ever ! 2GHz 1080ti 80C max (edit. under 1000rpm avg. 500 w/ noctua nf-a12 and low noise adapters)

    • @HYDRAdude
      @HYDRAdude 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you are going through all the effort to buy an after market cooler for your GPU then why not get an AIO cooler?

  • @EnnTomi1
    @EnnTomi1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +494

    Now the last enemy in the mist: coil whine

    • @eSeniri
      @eSeniri 3 ปีที่แล้ว +110

      Man I will never understand coil whine. Modern Warfare: fans spin up and system is overall a little louder than most games I play, but no whine. World of Warcraft: fans near silent, but piercing coil whine.

    • @DJHEADPHONENINJA
      @DJHEADPHONENINJA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@eSeniri it's because WoW is pushing higher framerates. Higher framerates, more coilwhine.

    • @Caution40404
      @Caution40404 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@DJHEADPHONENINJA So wrong. I've had different games with the same high FPS, yet some of them produce way more coil whine. It cannot be explained.

    • @lagynas
      @lagynas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Vega 56 owner: what whine?

    • @Miguel-jm2pf
      @Miguel-jm2pf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I’m pretty sure it just directly correlates with how much wattage the card is using, could be wrong tho

  • @cityofplant
    @cityofplant 3 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    I wish all manufacturer uses 120mm fan. They could get away with a thinner heatsinks. Imagine a GPU that makes universal brackets for us to change the fan to any fans we want.

    • @Excal111
      @Excal111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Honestly I would love that. I'm running a PowerColor Red Dragon 5700XT and to keep the thermals in check (below 80C TJunc in my preference) I have a very aggressive fan curve meaning during games my GPU fans regularly reach 1800-2100rpm and can spike up to 2400. Fortunately I can have my PC a decent distance away, about 4 feet (~120cm), so the noise isn't terrible.

    • @NoAlias_
      @NoAlias_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There a Fan Clips that work with most gpu´s, adding 120mm fans is pretty easy

  • @MrMaxABuck
    @MrMaxABuck 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I did something similar to a GTX 1080 Strix while I waited for replacement stock fans. I was amazed at how much better 2x120mm case fans were vs stock fans. Of course, cable ties were used.

  • @jomac_ph
    @jomac_ph 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I hope that board partners can release deshroud friendly design for the upcoming GPUs. I'd be trying this on some old GPUs I have around for the mean time. Thanks for the upload!

  • @achilleaustin4477
    @achilleaustin4477 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Really can't believe you only have 342k subscribers, your production quality is insane and your videos are always great to watch. Plus, you're an Aussie not another American. Keep up the good work mate, you're one of the best tech youtubers I know of.

  • @crazyforcs
    @crazyforcs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +265

    Did you test the original Strix after you changed the long screws to short screws? I feel like some of the improvement is coming from that alone.

    • @optimumtech
      @optimumtech  3 ปีที่แล้ว +117

      Yes of course. The "Stock" measurement was after changing to the shorter screws.

    • @tylerm.9408
      @tylerm.9408 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@optimumtech Way to think ahead! That’s awesome 👏

  • @ajmatt
    @ajmatt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I would love to see the deshroud mod with other manufacturers like msi, zotac etc. and see a comparison. Been waiting for this video for a while, and thank you for the informative videos!

  • @KasperLidegaard
    @KasperLidegaard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm looking forward to part two of this video recommending cards for ncase m1 with deshroudimg in mind.
    Keep it up the good work!!

  • @WhatAThingThisIs
    @WhatAThingThisIs 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just wanted to say that your previous video with the NCase M1 + Accelero III mod helped my M1 build's thermals massively! Came back to check up on your channel and your improvements in the last 2 years with video quality and testing details is amazing. Subbed and looking forward to watching your channel grow. Much love from a fellow Aussie.

  • @stylist_bitter6194
    @stylist_bitter6194 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Entertaining and informative as always. Even when the topic doesn't remotely apply to me, the camera work alone is enough to make me watch.

  • @MrYamazaky
    @MrYamazaky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Lool the timing! I was just searching "how to gpu notcua mod" this morning for a possible NR200 bulid and now you upload this!

    • @khorajin8320
      @khorajin8320 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is it possible to do this in a N200?

    • @MrYamazaky
      @MrYamazaky 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@khorajin8320 I meant the NR200, ups fixed

    • @khorajin8320
      @khorajin8320 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      AlmostGenius no Problem i mean the same ;) looking forward to build me an itx Gaming pc, dont want a custom loop, but this Solution were awesome

    • @superbanana1784
      @superbanana1784 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Khorajin also curious! Mine gets here Wednesday.

    • @warmachine5835
      @warmachine5835 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He's been on a roll with these lately for me. The double radiator and IceMan pump-res combo videos came out right as I was finishing the CPU side of my double rad build and the same day as my IceMan came in the mail.

  • @funknugget6334
    @funknugget6334 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Ali, you should definitely do an SFF news series weekly or bi-weekly or even monthly. It would definitely be a good watch for beginners and enthusiasts alike.

  • @ThisRandomUsername
    @ThisRandomUsername 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very interesting. Thanks for doing the comparison with both the exhaust and intake config. I'm sure your other components appreciate you dumping the hot air right out of the case as well.
    One thing I've always wanted to do was to duct the exhausts from the GPU out to the back of my case, but it's a little too cramped to do that at the mainboard. This seems like a much better idea.

  • @mrethantheb
    @mrethantheb 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Dang going back and watching this, you've improved so much as a presenter. You seem far more confident in your more recent content. Here it's clear you weren't quite as comfortable. Your voice is actually different here too. Not that this was "bad", you've just become even better.

  • @Leonsimages
    @Leonsimages 3 ปีที่แล้ว +196

    If you use a dremel to remove those brackets *please* remove the cooler from the PCB before doing so, otherwise you'll risk cracking the die and killing your GPU!!!

    • @itIsI988
      @itIsI988 3 ปีที่แล้ว +89

      I'd be more worried about metal shavings getting on the PCB and shorting something.

    • @BatteryAz1z
      @BatteryAz1z 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      it's easier to just use a pipe wrench and bend them off.

    • @alabaska182
      @alabaska182 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@BatteryAz1z My side cutters cut through those brackets like butter, quick snip and you're done.

    • @PinataOblongata
      @PinataOblongata 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@alabaska182 I've even cut metal like that (to make a SSD mounting bay) with cheap kitchen chicken shears with great results, funnily enough. Started off using full-on angle-grinder then tried it and wished I had used them from the start.

    • @alabaska182
      @alabaska182 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PinataOblongata Lol yeah it doesn't take much that's for sure!

  • @DanielNavas1
    @DanielNavas1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +222

    When do we get an Optimum Tech upper body workout? I think that's what the people really want

    • @kickazzdrummer666
      @kickazzdrummer666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      gaaaaayyyy...

    • @Shieftain
      @Shieftain 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      @@kickazzdrummer666 Has it occurred to you that maybe he's just interested in Ali's routine so that he can make gains himself?

    • @cre8tivexchange
      @cre8tivexchange 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      @@kickazzdrummer666 A little insecure are we? Good blood flow helps the brain and other extremities.

    • @beanboy9029
      @beanboy9029 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kickazzdrummer666 hurr durr

    • @evertonc1448
      @evertonc1448 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kickazzdrummer666 MC Donald's, I'm loving it!

  • @rustho
    @rustho 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I watched you from the start...and I have to give you credit for evolving so beautifully..you are by far my favourite youtuber. Thank you for your humbleness and objectivity..keep it up. Greetings from Berlin

  • @Kippy8472
    @Kippy8472 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I honestly was not expecting such a dramatic difference. Good video Ali. Seriously eyeing off my gpu and contemplating doing the same thing.

  • @ariansanders5140
    @ariansanders5140 3 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Did you replace those screws before running the test with the shroud? if not that could play a big factor in the more extreme temp differences.

  • @jasper4574
    @jasper4574 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    love the noise level graphs compared to the temp graphs.... as someone very concious of noise this is very useful to see!

  • @carlosaloysiusaquino1482
    @carlosaloysiusaquino1482 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your videos have really been insightful. Especially these videos regarding thermals.
    Excited to try out this mod with the Silverstone RVZ01-E and the ROG Strix 2070 super. Going to be using a pair of Arctic P12s. The fans have a gap of a few cm between the heatsink, so it would be interesting to see the performance difference if any.

  • @Slamraptor
    @Slamraptor 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice clean look! I've been deshrouding my cards for a decade now. ^^
    I use a PCI bracket for fan mounting in my midi case.

  • @eender202
    @eender202 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video! One suggestion : I would love to see text in the video, this way it would be way easier to identify which fan/cooler or which items we are looking at.

  • @anthonycoffey816
    @anthonycoffey816 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is the kinda stuff I love, minimally evasive tinkering for sweet performance increases 😁

    • @PinataOblongata
      @PinataOblongata 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Minimally *invasive, not evasive.

  • @mattiaricci910
    @mattiaricci910 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm a new subscriber to the channel and i absolutely love the production quality of your videos man! I'm thinking about building my first PC as i feel inspired by your videos. Keep up the great work!

  • @SamZ
    @SamZ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dang, I had no idea this sort of thing was even possible but it makes perfect sense! Love this! Might do it someday!

  • @Hyper1555
    @Hyper1555 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Some adjustments to your video since I deshrouded my strix rx 5700xt myself:
    -Asus uses a strange 7 pin sort of fan splitting header. The mini 4 pin you mention is for the rgb on the shroud. I tried to figure out which wires I needed to make a 4 pin pwm signal for the fans, but the fans wouldn't spin. You have to use the Asus software, but that doesn't allow much of an undervolt. I settled on argus monitor and put the fans on the AIO pump header on the mobo. Perfect solution!
    - you HAVE to bend the tabs on the shroud and you have to bend them pretty far for certain fans in order to fit the fans and not get the tabs in the fan blades. Even if you do it carefully, you will damage the heatsink a bit and will probably void warranty if they need to take the shroud off.

    • @rolexrolex095
      @rolexrolex095 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I did the wiring on my 5700xt nitro+ with the help of this diagram imgur.com/jsaWdDj. Although he made some errors in the diagram.
      I know it is 8 pin instead of 7 pin that you have, but maybe it helps you.

  • @Pestilaence
    @Pestilaence 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I did this with my Zotac 1080Ti mini, forever ago, by rewiring the existing fan connector to add in two 90mm Noctua fans. I also swapped the thermal paste for Grizzly Conductonaut. The card is SUPER quiet now, and still performs great!

    • @heroictesticles6870
      @heroictesticles6870 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ''forever ago'' Are you a 15 year old girl? You type like one.

    • @Pestilaence
      @Pestilaence 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@heroictesticles6870 Is that the best comment you can come up with, as a keyboard warrior? Grow up.

    • @heroictesticles6870
      @heroictesticles6870 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Pestilaence Appears to be you who needs to grow up with your ''forever'' comments. How's your hair this morning, sweetie?

    • @lynx5327
      @lynx5327 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@heroictesticles6870 no need to insult someone for a miniscule thing

  • @BaezlEugene
    @BaezlEugene 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for simplifying the logo. It is a dream to look at now.

  • @RetroTinkerer
    @RetroTinkerer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I believe you are the first one I see doing these tests, that's exactly the kind of thing I do everytime my GPU fans stop working on my retro systems and is what I recommend my friends to lower the noise and improve temps.

  • @hughjazz44
    @hughjazz44 3 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    I'd still like to know why GPUs don't just come with 2 120mm fans clipped onto the heatsink. Why do they always use weird proprietary fans?

    • @matthewblu5725
      @matthewblu5725 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Style points bro

    • @krazyfrog
      @krazyfrog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Obviously because of case clearance issue. A graphics card with a 120mm fan would be too tall to fit inside most of the compact cases. If the graphics card used in this video came with a heat sink designed for 120mm fans, it would have never been able to fit inside this case. Any case that can't fit a 120mm CPU cooler won't be able to fit a graphics card with 120mm fans.

    • @hughjazz44
      @hughjazz44 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@krazyfrog A triple slot GPU would already not fit in most compact cases, so your argument is mostly irrelevant. Having more flexibility in normal ATX and mATX cases would be better and cover most use cases.

    • @LiveType
      @LiveType 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Cost, manufacturing efficiency, and size constraints. But mostly cost. A half decent 120mm fan would likely cost 4-5x as much as they pay for those flimsy excuses for cooling fans. I mean I would gladly pay an extra ~$30-40 if a manufacturer actually adopted them but only time will tell. Why would they spend more on the fans when they can just slap a bigger heatsink on? My guess is the best you'll get is that it becomes easier to mount your own 120mm fans in the future.
      Example: Have you seen the fans inside of the Mac Pro? Those are some ludicrously expensive fans in classic over-engineered apple fashion. They're there because the user base won't even bat an eye at the ~$150-200 spent on fans.

    • @krazyfrog
      @krazyfrog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hughjazz44 I wasn't talking about the thickness of the card. I specifically mentioned height and also gave a CPU cooler as an example.

  • @Sim2Real.
    @Sim2Real. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This is an awesome mod, specially if you blew your budget or are just saving for watercooling. I would rather do this than to watercool!

  • @edmundyung
    @edmundyung 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video, appreciate the VRM temperature bench!
    I've upgraded from 980Ti cooled by Acceelero Extreme III to a Strix 1080 Ti and had it deshroud on the first day. I don't need to flatten any tab for the 1080 Ti in my Ncase M1.

  • @MrLincoln87
    @MrLincoln87 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your fitment game is always on point, very tight

  • @boban250
    @boban250 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    With this 5700 deshrouding would also allow for a BIOS mod, getting you on par with a 5700XT since the OC would still be in good temps

  • @willb8343
    @willb8343 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    I assume this would work in the Cooler Master nr200, if so, I'm definitely gonna use this trick in my next build

    • @Erksah68
      @Erksah68 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      If he still has it on hand I'd acrually like him test it

    • @joebates640
      @joebates640 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i see

    • @radjafan
      @radjafan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Erksah68 me too

    • @Lee-lp9vg
      @Lee-lp9vg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Interested too tho thinking there might be too much clearance between gpu and fans since I have a 2.1 slot, if not then would use an Accelero Xtreme

    • @WakeSideLife
      @WakeSideLife 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's my plan. 2.7slot Asus card and 2 artic a12 pwms at the bottom.

  • @MrChow
    @MrChow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the video and info!!! I have always wonder about this. Now to go try it!

  • @chriss.3335
    @chriss.3335 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey mate, thanks for the video. Just a couple of days before this video, I did a deshroud of the Saphire Pulse 5700XT for my newest NCASE M1 v6.1 build. It was super easy and super effective. I could take off the shroud with only 5 screws and it was just the almost flat heat pipe uncovered. I have the NCASE M1, i9-10900k, AiO Arctic Freezer 240mm II, AsRock Phantom Gaming Z490 ITX/TB3, 2x Noctua NF-A12x25 Bottom Fans, 1x Noctua AF-9 PWM Chromax Intake Fan and 2x Noctua NF-F12 Chromax as exhaust in the side panel replacing the Arctic P12 fans on the AiO. Super happy with this setup. Idle 33db, Load 37db. The GPU is set to Automatic-Undervolt and fans spinning at 1500rpm max. It is so silent, that I don't even consider to put the GPU on water-cooling as well. See pictures here: imgur.com/gallery/MkenaZv

  • @din3832
    @din3832 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What about that noctua cooler? You never showed us how this one does on the Ncase M1! Cheers mate, great content as ever.

  • @Smoozable
    @Smoozable 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I did this mod with my 5700xt
    Do not expect much in case of temp reduction maybe 3 to 4 °c
    But noise reduction was a huge improvement even with fans at 100% barely audible

  • @constantinosschinas4503
    @constantinosschinas4503 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    wonderful build, exluding psu and case (looks). those fams go so well with copper. big fan of air coolling ;)

  • @blueridge8992
    @blueridge8992 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man you are pushing the SFF space (and PC building in general) forward with every other video these days. Really appreciate what you’re doing. Did you come up with this particular idea?

  • @R0B711
    @R0B711 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    4:03 Which toolkit is it? Seems like the link is missing. Heard the iFixit bits are a little soft. You had any problems with them?

    • @otroe
      @otroe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’ve had an iFixit for about two years now and the only ones that are worn down are the p5 and y000, the regular size ones have held up to my 3D printers pretty fine

  • @jjoke5014
    @jjoke5014 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    For the few who read this: You can totally use this in any case! You just need to either use zip ties or bent wire to secure the fans directly to the card.
    Perhaps not the most elegant solution, but we’ll worth it in my opinion!

    • @archer9338
      @archer9338 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Looks like a great project for a 3D printer.

    • @Gigaamped
      @Gigaamped 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Other than virtually every sandwhich layout case I can think of but correct me if I'm wrong. For example, there's not enough space for a 25mm thick fan on a gpu in the Dan A4 from the looks of it.

    • @jerrytrainer5086
      @jerrytrainer5086 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can also use things like PCIE slot fan bracket mounts and just mount it a slot below the card

  • @sdleasia
    @sdleasia 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just literally built a white NR200 partially based on this video. Placing my power supply on the side, like here, made everything fit much better. (NR200, C14S bottom fan, 5600x, CM-V750 SFX, 1080 ti). Your build videos are awesome!

  • @giannistsakiris5408
    @giannistsakiris5408 ปีที่แล้ว

    you are an absolute professional. I have no fear recommending you as the go-to pc hardware channel.

  • @MrSouthSioux
    @MrSouthSioux 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Building in a NR200 Wed. Hoping to try something similar with my current 1080 which I've mounted a morpheus 2 on. Most likely not going to fit with 120/25 since that makes the card almost 4 slots but I'm hoping with slim 120/15 it will fit. With this and Fuma 2 for the cpu I should have a nice small air cooled silent little ninja of a pc.

    • @Camina.Drummer
      @Camina.Drummer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I saw a thread on reddit where NR200 + Morpheus II + 25mm works, just barely. The NR200 looks to have a bit more room than the Ncase.

  • @TehPandaShogun
    @TehPandaShogun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Well of course it's good, it's turning it into a 4-slot cooler. :^U
    But yeah, definitely going to try this in my next build. Now if only there was a place where people could share which cards need minimal work to make this work.
    Or we can ask the board partners to provide DIY variants with thicc, flat heatsinks.

  • @true_BOT
    @true_BOT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great work!
    btw, i liked you previous logo and intro more.

  • @livog2045
    @livog2045 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love this channel, great video, thank you for this! Can you do a part 2 with the compatible 3080 + 3090?

  • @VelcroSnake93
    @VelcroSnake93 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I do this with my NCASE M1 v6.1, Strix 1080 Ti and NF-A12x25's. Works fantastic. My concern is when I want to upgrade my GPU to one of the new ones coming out, making sure I can find one that I can do the same thing with.

    • @un-for-given
      @un-for-given 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a 2080 Ti STRIX. How can I make sure my 4 pin connectors work?

  • @obfuscurity
    @obfuscurity 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Was the stock measurement taken before or after your stock mounting fix?

    • @popori7928
      @popori7928 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Probably not, since he used the screws from the deshrouding to fix the mounting problem?

    • @optimumtech
      @optimumtech  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@popori7928 I realised just how bad the problem was after deshrouding, but then went back, installed the shorter screws, and re-tested with the original shroud and fans. This gave us the "Stock" result on the chart.
      I borrowed two screws from the shroud to fix the issue, you can still mount the original shroud with 2 screws missing.

  • @alistairblaire6001
    @alistairblaire6001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing results. Honestly I would snip those metal shroud mounting tabs off to do it.

  • @Ruiso7
    @Ruiso7 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did the same with the node 202 using the amd Fury card from saphire back in the day. Loved it

  • @DocteurMolotov
    @DocteurMolotov 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Since I installed an accelero III on my 5700xt mech, I wish I could buy my next GPU card bare and on the cheap instead of paying for noisy and bad stock cooling solutions (that I will be swapping anyway)
    Great vid tho m8

    • @brenlouissurio2404
      @brenlouissurio2404 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Max.Sc. Yeah, I don't know why he bought the MSI when he's replacing it.

    • @DocteurMolotov
      @DocteurMolotov 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Max.Sc. blower coolers does not comes cheap to produce : case, vapor chamber, fan,... All I ask is a bare pcb with the chips :P

    • @DocteurMolotov
      @DocteurMolotov 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brenlouissurio2404 it was a cheap (320usd) refurbished GPU. I thought that the bad cooler was fixable with thermal grizzly pads but oh boy I was wrong... the thing is as doomed as noisy and hot

    • @maximroberts9674
      @maximroberts9674 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brenlouissurio2404 hmm ' cause he bought the bad msi card. Gaming x is great

    • @LPMusicON
      @LPMusicON 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Max.Sc. Blower will not work with this mod as it pushes air through the heatstink outside of the case (top of the heatsink is sealed off). You need axial style card.

  • @Pabula
    @Pabula 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I see you using NH-C14S and in the past you used to run a Noctua NH-D9L (i think), which of the two nets you better temps and noise?

    • @ffwast
      @ffwast 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Probably the c14s depending on case configuration

    • @GettingAroundToIt
      @GettingAroundToIt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'd love to see a video comparing the NH-C14S to the NH-U9S in the NCASE M1 v 6.1.

  • @Alienking01
    @Alienking01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have done the same with my Gigabyte RTX 2060 Super Gaming OC,
    worked wonders in terms of noise.
    The original fans would always cycle on/off and the min fan speed was quite high.
    The de-shrouding was very easy and no extra work was necessary.

  • @Aldenco99
    @Aldenco99 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really interesting concept. Glad the algorithm suggested it.

  • @eritulizx
    @eritulizx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You should make a deshroud video with the 3080 cards.

  • @ThePckupelan
    @ThePckupelan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Was deshrouding my 285gtx long time ago and strap case fan with cable ties, excellent result.

  • @edwardnoble9897
    @edwardnoble9897 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Badass! Thanks so much for these videos. Starting to plan my next build. Just bought the NCase M1 and planning a 5950x + Strix 3080, so curious if deshrouding will work there.

  • @drink__more__water
    @drink__more__water 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Fractal Design Era can also benefit from this sort of mod. The clearance is a _lot_ tighter, but the airflow boost for that case in particular is incredible.

  • @meledyne5059
    @meledyne5059 3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Omg so basically gpu board partners are screwing us over 🤣

    • @t4iga121
      @t4iga121 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      no, they just aren't fan experts and currently refrain from building 4+ slot cooler designs, which this is.

    • @funkagenocide
      @funkagenocide 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@t4iga121 if you're doing design work on thermal solutions for silicon components you most assuredly are a "fan expert," in the professional sense. Modeling Air flow through such a system is a pretty basic engineering task that any junior level mechanical engineering student could undertake. All this is to say that, yes, the only reason the thermals on your gpu are lackluster and the noise is too high is because the engineers working on them are operating within market parameters defined by what the consumer will put up with, not what provides the best absolute performance.

    • @lucastonoli3256
      @lucastonoli3256 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@t4iga121 This mostly comes down to marketing. People demand fancy shrouds, lights and pretty shit, not going past the 3 slot height makes it more compatible with every case. Plus, if the thing still achieves the right FPS, they ensure the sale regardless of whether the cooling design is optimal or not.
      Ideal PC would have a horizontal layout to avoid piling up heat sources and major components would have tower-like heatsinks on top (pretty much like CPU cooling).

    • @TheKb117
      @TheKb117 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lucastonoli3256 much like the original desktop cases/layout design or the abandoned BTX form factor by Intel.

    • @TheRealFobican
      @TheRealFobican 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      But it leaves a lot of potential for creativity and imagination to play around with.

  • @chepaco3290
    @chepaco3290 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    So why don't gpu's come with universal mounts for us to mount our own 120's to? Why isnt that a thing yet?

    • @zoomzabba452
      @zoomzabba452 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It's probably part of where they make their slim profit margins.

    • @yohanes2034
      @yohanes2034 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I imagine that would be ideal. They cut cost by not providing the fans and shroud, and we as enthusiasts can put any kind of fans that we like onto the GPU.

    • @MelvinKhosa
      @MelvinKhosa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It is a thing. Buy a reference card, go to Raijintek or Arctic who will gladly sell you a heatsink, and go to Noctua for some fans.

    • @chepaco3290
      @chepaco3290 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@MelvinKhosa this isn't the same thing. I feel like you're just flexing some random enthusiast knowledge. I don't want to disassemble a gpu, repaste it, and install a new heatsink just to connect some fans. I want to go to Newegg, buy an EVGA gpu and slap on 2 fans. 5 seconds, done.

    • @yohanes2034
      @yohanes2034 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is still a mod. Would be better if the board manufacturers acknowledge their design shortcomings and just put standard fan bracket for easier installation. They have put water block preinstalled before so finger crossed.

  • @OugaBoogaShockwave
    @OugaBoogaShockwave 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i like this channel, you don't seem over the top or full of yourself being popular like some do once they hit a certain amount of followers !

  • @NicholaiKM
    @NicholaiKM 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bruh, gotta respect your videos aesthetic. Its so clean

  • @johnsun7939
    @johnsun7939 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video, I have a question for the CPU cooling though. Is the fan set as intake or exhaust?

    • @Arif-nr4mt
      @Arif-nr4mt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think it is used as intake

  • @KhaledAlfaris
    @KhaledAlfaris 3 ปีที่แล้ว +144

    I like your new channel logo. The one before was a jumbled mess.

    • @Numeriwar
      @Numeriwar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Its still bad. I have no idea what it is... a box filled with water?

    • @atespeach5672
      @atespeach5672 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Numeriwar A minecraft chest in two colours. I'm not kidding btw.

    • @laurihulikkala3976
      @laurihulikkala3976 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      yeh it seriously wasnt optimum

    • @kenshiku
      @kenshiku 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Numeriwar "i don't understand it so it's bad and a mess" You guys are something else, calling you idiots might be too good for you all.

  • @clarklindsay2902
    @clarklindsay2902 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a deshrouded 1080ti in my NCASE M1 with 25x120mm Noctuas, like the build in the video. Huge improvement over stock, and very easy to execute. Would absolutely recommend it

  • @mpeugeot
    @mpeugeot 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done, it's impressive.
    My 1080ti's with water blocks are dead silent, never exceed 50 degrees Celsius, and overclock like mad as a result. Having enjoyed custom loop water cooled systems, I can't imagine doing it differently just because of how quiet it runs with a big radiator.

  •  3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    For years I'm running RX 580 deshrouded
    2x120mm artic 1200RPM fan
    3D printed bracket
    And noise is gone

    • @gkeegan2676
      @gkeegan2676 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have a Radeon RX580, 3 fan, and I was interested in doing the same thing. Any chance I can purchase a bracket from you?

    • @matthewgegg3835
      @matthewgegg3835 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Care to link to that file? Thanks

  • @johnli4754
    @johnli4754 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I wonder which of the new 3000 series you can easily deshroud mod with?

    • @TheRealFobican
      @TheRealFobican 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Basically you can deshroud every single gpu.

  • @tommytwotone5627
    @tommytwotone5627 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great idea, only problem I see is are the bottoms fans getting enough breathing room. Your clearance looks adequate, but I wonder how well that would work if the fans had more of a free flow into the gpu heatsink, along side with adding higher cfm fans as well.

  • @leroyj9044
    @leroyj9044 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would really love to see a video where you go one by one and show how low you can get GPU temperatures through combinations of different mods, such as better thermal pads and paste, undervolting, deshrouding and so on.

  • @Kekeripo
    @Kekeripo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wait, hows "exhaust" cooler than "intake"? Exhaust as in the fans blow down out of the case?

    • @antisniper70
      @antisniper70 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes the exhaust fans blow down onto the table out of the case. The reason it’s cooler is because there is much more space to bring air from within the case than intaking from the small area under the case, this also takes out warm air from the case

    • @gutterg0d
      @gutterg0d 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No clue, but it's the same with my Lian Li TU150 case. I got a 10 degrees C difference (under load) when I flipped my bottom fans to exhaust.

    • @mikfhan
      @mikfhan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah I'd imagine it's because after 20min or so the small case is otherwise saturated with ambient heat from all the intakes. Having one of them as exhaust alleviates this; perhaps even lay the case on its side so it can exhaust the hot air unobstructed.

  • @harrison2899
    @harrison2899 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Wouldn't this work on any case if you just zip tied the fans to the graphics card heatsink? I would love to see a video on that.

    • @harrison2899
      @harrison2899 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Nephid I probably saw it when it came out and forgot about it. I am very interested to see this channel do it as this channel has a lot of focus on fans and cooling in SFF Cases when LTT is more of a fun LOL type channel.

  • @blueckaym
    @blueckaym 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Impressive results!
    This mod would be less exotic (and case dependent) if one mounts the fans directly to the heatsink, instead of to the case and try to match the space in between.
    I guess one can use the very modern tool, known as zip-ties :) (there are also a metal kind). Also these Noctua fans have rubber anti-vibration pads in the corners so it should help with reducing noise from imperfect mount.

  • @tom_zanna
    @tom_zanna 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is my dream build! Silent and compact

  • @VlrGuitarWorld
    @VlrGuitarWorld 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Perforated desk for further decrease in temps...lol

  • @looxx1z
    @looxx1z 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How come, that when i went for deshrouding, i have higher temps on my gpu when set as exhaust? Did it with a 2080ti black from evga and had around 5-6 degrees hotter. Was very similar to the fusion 3 with the kraken for a 9900k that is limited to 95w...

    • @Duncan23
      @Duncan23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      When it comes to PC cooling there are so many variables its almost impossible to compare temperatures unless every component is the same. Even then there are variables like mounting pressure etc which will also effect things

    • @rocketracer111
      @rocketracer111 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      When you post your build with pics somewhere like pcpartpicker oder builds gg than maybe we can comment on it :) do t forget to share the link to your build

    • @Rose.Of.Hizaki
      @Rose.Of.Hizaki 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Maybe your case isnt high enough off the desk for the air to flow easily. Either that or its your choice of fan.

    • @niter43
      @niter43 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      EVGA Black Edition is 2-slot card? Are you using different case, thicker fans or made shrouds for fans? Because otherwise you should have a gap bellow fans and M1 bottom -- fans don't blow all of the air outside of the case.
      Also even with shrouds/proper spacing it's reasonable to think that slim heatsinks work worse with exhaust -- as with such configuration fans pull air through the heatsink from it's sides (and there is less area from side profile).

    • @DClaville
      @DClaville 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      where are you exhausting to ? sucking air from the heat sink will very rarely be better it only works in the case in the video where the fans can blow the air out the case directly. in a normal case and GPU placement you will want to have it blowing into the heat sinks. . i also thing the VRM temps where higher in the exhaust setup in the video but might not have been monitored in that part of the test.

  • @jalapaeno
    @jalapaeno 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been looking forward to someone doing this!

  • @gurshair
    @gurshair 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just bought a Lian LI tu150 and used noctua fans with the goal of quietness. I pretty sure this will work on my case and would like to thank you for the great idea.

  • @aisdhgaoi3qea
    @aisdhgaoi3qea 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Anyone tried this in an NZXT H1? Is this even possible in the H1?

    • @TheGaspacho21
      @TheGaspacho21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes it is possible, I am going to actually be doing it later today. Look up nzxt h1 mods on the itx subreddit

    • @aisdhgaoi3qea
      @aisdhgaoi3qea 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheGaspacho21 Let me know how it goes :) Which GPU will you be using? I have preordered my H1 and am waiting for it to arrive before i buy parts. I am mostly interested in making the H1 as quiet as possible.

    • @jamesbarnett
      @jamesbarnett 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've got a deshrouded Gigabyte 2070 super in my H1 and it made a huge difference to noise/ thermals. I have two noctua NF-A12x15s attached; no issues with protruding brackets but you do have to get creative with zip ties to attach the fans. Felt very crude whilst I was building it but actually I think the end result looks better than stock.
      If reducing noise is in your interests I'd also recommend swapping the stock psu for an SF750 or similar - the stock psu isn't loud, but I found the stop start switching in and out of passive mode a little intrusive. Basically do all this :
      www.reddit.com/r/sffpc/comments/g579s1/not_your_average_h1_post/

    • @aisdhgaoi3qea
      @aisdhgaoi3qea 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      James Barnett awesome! Do you have pics? Did you zip tie the fans to the GPU?

    • @jamesbarnett
      @jamesbarnett 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Forgot that I repasted the cooler as well. No idea if it helped but figured I may as well whilst it was apart, but by no means necessary for the fan mod.

  • @apostolosgkatzogias6706
    @apostolosgkatzogias6706 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    What about Coolermaster's NR200 ??

  • @kennethfang1262
    @kennethfang1262 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video! I would love to see how de-shrouding compares with aftermarket VGA coolers like the Arctic Accelero, Raijintek Morpheus, or NZXT Kraken G12 in a performance/price comparison video.

  • @gnshp8167
    @gnshp8167 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your video quality is insane. I will probably try this because my 1080ti mini is running pretty hot

  • @placeholder7054
    @placeholder7054 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This isn't a deshrouding mod....this is a cold air intake mod.

    • @roebbiej
      @roebbiej 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol you must be a car guy

  • @OfficialRedTeamReview
    @OfficialRedTeamReview 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Does having two fans blow air towards the GPU like that actually help with its temps?

  • @bracket2710
    @bracket2710 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wish there were simple clips for regular fans to hook into most heatsinks to make this more widely useful. It'd be interesting to know how much of the benefit is simply due to better fans vs the duct effect created in the M1 where the fans have flush access to both the outside and the heatsink.

  • @francis10203
    @francis10203 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This will be my next build. Thanks.

  • @Lordosvk
    @Lordosvk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    20c Ambient temp is too cool for real tests. not every one has AC and coooling room to 20c is not recommend ideal temp is 25-26c for siting.

    • @niter43
      @niter43 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      People live in different regions, you know. There's plenty of places where you have to actively ~heat~ your room for the most of the year to have it at 20c.
      Also that shouldn't change much -- assume results would change linearly with ambient higher than tested (so add 5-6 dergrees to all shown results)

    • @Lordosvk
      @Lordosvk 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@niter43 yes.

  • @Ta5.
    @Ta5. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    okay, ravepriest1 copy
    just kidding

  • @malafob
    @malafob 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As always Ali ... Top quality stuff!! Thx for your hard Work. Im waiting on my NR200P. Seems not that easy to get one in germanY...

    • @michael_rauen
      @michael_rauen 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi again :-) (foobyte from Reddit) Luckily our NR200P's are on the way now. It's still stuck in France but it should get here by Monday, or Tuesday by the latest.

  • @pipoviola
    @pipoviola 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing job, man! Congratulations.