Article by Patrick & Steve: www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3108-nzxt-h700i-case-review-better-if-it-were-dumber You might also like our H500P review: th-cam.com/video/HRsb4C5gLLc/w-d-xo.html
Nice someone with an indepth review. With the cable management bar can you said you can move it towards the front? If so Im assuming its only half an inch or so, but do you have an approximation?
u said it forces u to register and login for the software to work, so i actually get datamined if i want to use a case now? with nzxt selling or losing my data......? i definitely won't buy any of this "smart" stuff and also don't wanna support a company charging me for getting data mined.....
I feel really bad for the people who have too much money and too little interest in technology who are being sold this crap by their local PC shop. That's something only a bastard would sell to people; it's so dumb.
@iamezza - Which is why you should STOP FUCKING BUYING THEM. There's ZERO excuse not to have a 5.25" bay on any Micro-ATX case and larger. These full size towers are taking the absolute piss by removing practical features and replacing them with RGB bullshit. My Corsair 650D has an inbuilt hotswap bay and I use it all the time. On my next computer build I'm going to be recycling the 650D as a backup machine for clients computers with all 4 5.25" bays running multiple HDD hotswap backplanes.
T B No it is not. The algorithm is to ship your information to their servers to be averaged out with every other person in a similar boat. This is called a program. It doesn't learn anything except an additional data point to be averaged. A simple while loop can do that.
oh boy, sounds like this one is going to take way more explaining than I have energy for. Gamers Nexus, perhaps a video explaining machine learning is in order, given that this is a new technology implemented in your area of expertise. In the meantime I urge viewers/commenters to research it on their own.
You said it yourself, "smart" companies will do that, however, a real smart company wouldn't put out a non-working product or in this example of the case being reviewed, software that doesn't work. You can easily ignore the advanced fan controller in this case, but you are paying for the functionality or lack thereof.
Frank R smart companies do whatever makes the most money. Unfortunately stupid consumers lap up this kind of crap. Hopefully channels like this will force companies to improve attention to detail, but ti be perfectly honest, this channel alone doesn't have enough reach.
I wish my case fans could be set to gpu temps threw motherboard software :x that's one place where asus's bios are better then most. I tried using a Nzxt cam but the experience with some fans was not good
Remove all the electronics and include a puck. Then it will be my fave case... Maybe make the cable management bracket easier to remove (we need a sexy detach button). it should be reshaped a little too.
This video has earned my subscription. I’ve admired the in-depth review and deep dives for a long time but I feel like there was something missing. Now I see fantastic videos and I’m here for the long run.
Really? A computer case part that have to be online and have an account? Laughable. Why didn't they just make the (not particularity)smart device a simple temp / acoustic meter And completely skip the load% thing.
Just came here to say, I bought a puck a few days ago after watching your Nzxt case reviews and got it today and I'm loving it. Strong magnet holds my headphones and the puck splits to hold my cables... This is literally apples philosophy of "think different" except Nzxt idea is 11/10. Quality stuff. Much puck. So innovation. I just bought another one for my work case.
NO FLAKES HERE MEN. Steve tells it how it is! Love the blunt reviews lately. More TechTubers should learn from this instead of kissing companies assess
I've seen cases that crack the top panel/ open up etc when temperatures hit a certain degrees. Would've been much easier/cheaper to implement and probably a nicer gimmick to push that 200$ price tag. That being said sweet review and wow this case is really pretty
Hi Steve! I'm actually quite interested in the smart device. After you go through the painful setup, is it good at setting a fan curve? Like is it fairly quiet and does it set a fan curve better than the average user? Also is it PWM? THANK YOU!!!
Was set on getting the H700i, but couldn't justify spending £200 on a "smart" case, when the smart bit is essentially a fan curve. Went for the S340 Elite instead for £75 :) Have contacted NZXT to arrange the purchase of a spare front panel so I can mod the S340E for better air flow, as that was the only bad point in my opinion. 1:57 - I agree, the S340E definitely has airflow problems, but I really think that it being less than half the price of the H700i, it's still very much a strong option. Holes cut into the front panel would massive improve airflow to the case :) Great vid, as always.
Ratter have 5 pucks like Steve than the "Smart" Device, this case is gois to be ATROCIOUSLY expensive in Brazil... Steve, you have mastered the "ironically pissed off but i kinda like " type of review, very good work, keep up! You expressed exactly and perfectly how do i feel about the case, maybe at 120USD it will replace my S340.
Hey, great video, as always. One question - why don't you ever review Phateks cases? Enthoo Evolve for instance, would be great to hear your opinion on such an advertised and popular case.
Now that newegg sells the h700 that excludes the smart devices, what would you say about h700 vs h500?? Would you recommend the 700 (w/ out smart device) over the h500? Starting my first build and like the h500 however if the h700 has notable better performance, I don't mind spending a little extra. Anybody with their thoughts would be greatly appreciated!
Hey Steve, I've been checking your case reviews and I haven't found a single one for a Phanteks case. Is there a grudge between GN and this company or is it just a coincidence?
Hey Steve I love all your reviews. Would you consider this H700 (dumb version) or H500 for a Threadripper 1920x (Multi GPU 2x 1070) workstation build? I heard on your review that the H500 might suffocate on SLI but I won't be doing SLI so I'm not sure.
Hey I love your content and have been watching for a while and your comment on the Cam software temp notifications Triggered me! I have an I7-700k and Every time I oc it using the Asus m/board settings I get warnings the temps are over between 80-90... Is that fine? its just short random spikes never constant. This is my first computer that I built recently, so Im not to sure on these things. I have been running it at standard clock because of this. Is there better software you recommend? Thanks
i just routed the cable under the bar and it REALLY cleans up the look of the case im not sure why you chose to force the 24 pin over the top of the cable bar? just go directly behind it and then flatten out the bowing cables with combs
I built my own PC and sometimes when under load my 7700K reaches over 80 degrees and I have the NZXT Kraken X52 to cool it, CAM throws the same notification saying that it’s too hot and will reduce the lifespan of the CPU? I have mine only overclocked to 4.6 GHz because I didn’t wanna push it too much, is it safe to run it that way? Any help would be awesome!
This is an actual critical review, and it points out the flaws. Thats how its done right! No shilling, no apologizing no bullsh!t! The product manufacturer can watch this, and improve his product very easily. Good work Steve.
So just so I'm understanding this correctly. It's completely fine to use the fans without the CAM linked controller right? You can just hook the fans up how you normally would any other chassis instead?
"The rest of the case is fantastic, I wish it wasn't $200." That's exactly how I feel about it. Such a nice case, would have been on my short list of cases I'd move from the P400 for. Looks like I'm still waiting for a white Meshify C.
Is this case worth it now that they made the H700(non smart version), which is around $150? Or is there a better case to be had at that price still? Trying to upgrade from my s340 elite.
Good to see I'm not the only one who threw the "smart" device away. Didn't need the adressable 5v rgb (or white led?) stripes and additional fan connectors either ( *plonk*).
Can you use the smart device only as a hue substitute for the LED strips and use your mobo for cooling control? And if so: In my country, the difference between h700 and h700i is about 30 €, do you think aesthetically the LED strips are worth the 30 bucks?
If you don’t use the Hue+ that control fans and rgb leds, will those leds plug into a supported motherboard? Or do the led have to run through the hue+ which will also force you to use the built in crappy fan controls?
Best review I've seen on this case! I thoroughly agree with you. NZXT should offer this with or without the 2 devices. I already own a Hue+ and I like setting my own fan curves. Price the case slightly above the S340 Elite and I'll definitely buy it and post a build video in it!
Great review! Could you not have routed the main power connector in front of the blue cover bar and then into the cutout behind it? Not ideal but it would have looked better than squeezing and bending the cable behind it.
would the NZXT H700 CA-H700B-B1 be a better version if you dont want the smart feature and extra lighting? Its less than 200 and looks exactly the same as the h700i
I have this case and I completely agree with you. The smart device doesn't work at all. I've been running it for a week in hopes it might figure itself out and no luck. I will be removing it and plugging everything into the motherboard. Great review!
I have a H700i and I love the case. Only downside is that Smart Device and the Cable management bar. It interferes with any EATX motherboard and any right angled 24Pin. Also if you plan to custom loop. It isn't too friendly with larger graphic cards since you won't have space to place a reservoir unless you mount it ontop of the PSU shroud so you lose 2 2.5 inch mounts.
In the specs it sais it has room for 2+1 3,5" drives. I can't figure out where the +1 is. Do you also think one could easely fit custom watercooling without drilling holes? I might buy this to relpace my Corsair 800D
H700i looks decent compared to recent cases but the Define R5 is still my favorite. R5 has support for a 420mm radiator on the top and still has room for eight 3.5" drives with two SSD mounts behind the motherboard, all without being a massive full tower. And doesn't hurt that can find the R5 for under $100 while the H700i is $200 with no 5.25" support, weaker fan/radiator support and minuscule 3.5" support. But I guess it looks kinda cool?
soo... the bugs and issues aside though, when that "machine learning" fan controller finally DOES work, does it actually do anything useful? how does it compare with letting your mainboard manage the fans or just having the fans always run at the same speed?
CAM software allows you to customize the temperature threshold for notification to a higher level(see settings/notifications). You are referencing the default value. You may rethink doing a bit more research on these products before making definitive assertions, but I do get that sometimes things just get past us.
Interesting review. I'd like to see a lineup of all the cases you've tested with a temp vs dbA analysis and graph. If you've done this already my apologies and where is the vid/link?
You could take a longer route with that 24 pin and go over the bar and then behind so that it doesn't look so crappy. Not everything has to be as short of a route as possible especially with cable extensions.
Man, i seriously hope NZXT takes all this in good spirit again. This is an insane amount of pretty priceless critique and evaluation for practically no cost. Like, no joke, without the smart devices, I'd probably snatch it, because it's one of the few solid front panel cases with some actual ventilation. Thanks Steve n' Co. excellent work as always.
The 85°c temp warning is an all around temp warning. Ice gotten that for both my 980ti and my 5930k when I was tweaking some fan curve settings and then stress testing an oc. Ice since stopped using cam, for what should be obvious reasons. At this point I just use CPUID HWMonitor. Frankly it better utilizes the sensors in my hardware than even say corsair's own software.
Wait a minute. So with the ncxt software my fan settings stop working without internet connection? What sort of crap is that? So if i let my PC run over night do finish some job, and my internet connection dies, it will potentially let it run into emergency shutdown? Thats really good to know, now i have one more company on my NoBuy list.
I saw about 3 other reviews on this case, not a single one mentioned anything about the fan controller let alone that it didn’t work properly, rather the software didn’t work properly. Makes me seriously question their reviews especially when they also reviewed the Cooler master one recently and again mentioned nothing about the build quality
I suspect that nobody actually tries to break it (or push it) like Steve surely does. And yeah, in that case they're worse than the consumer going to the store and looking at the damn thing themselves.
I wish I saw this video before pulling the trigger on the Phanteks Enthoo Pro M TG. I read your review of it on the website and the noise levels on the chart threw me off, but I didn't see it mentioned anywhere that you were running the fans at max. That means the case could be relatively quiet and still cool well with better fans at lower RPMs.
I love reviews like this. Love it Steve good job again with this honest review. I want this case, but knowing the CAM is shit I’ll wait until NZXT take it out the case.
Would be cool to see a review of the H200i. You mentioned the perforation in the PSU shroud doesn't help much with cooling. I'd be curious to see if it makes a difference with an mITX build.
Article by Patrick & Steve: www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3108-nzxt-h700i-case-review-better-if-it-were-dumber
You might also like our H500P review: th-cam.com/video/HRsb4C5gLLc/w-d-xo.html
What a pucked up case!
Nice someone with an indepth review. With the cable management bar can you said you can move it towards the front? If so Im assuming its only half an inch or so, but do you have an approximation?
It's about ~1.25cm of movement in either direction.
Gamers Nexus Thanks so much!
u said it forces u to register and login for the software to work, so i actually get datamined if i want to use a case now? with nzxt selling or losing my data......?
i definitely won't buy any of this "smart" stuff and also don't wanna support a company charging me for getting data mined.....
"At that price point, your competition is the H500P" 23:53
HAHAHA You're hilarious, caught me off guard.
I was looking for this comment. If there wasn't one, I was gonna make it!
*H500P proceeds to fall apart with minimal force*
such a short moment, but the best moment of the entire video (considering the video was great already)
LMAOOO
>Sees new NZXT case
>$200
>Me: why?
>NZXT: M A C H I N E L E A R N I N G
OUT OF THE BOX LEARNING
Berenger Christy bruh that's my profile picture lol
T H I C C
Berenger Christy lmao
I feel really bad for the people who have too much money and too little interest in technology who are being sold this crap by their local PC shop. That's something only a bastard would sell to people; it's so dumb.
I like the new trend of SAVAGE intros.
YES.
It certainly was a necessary change to the channel.
Hell Yeah. I know I will like this before even watching it.
Gamers Nexus reviews are the best.
Agree!
lmao
totally agree with you !
Remember fan controllers with knobs? THOSE WORKED
Yeah I have a nice black brushed aluminium one with 6 knobs. Can't use it on most new cases though because they don't have any 5.25" bays any more.
Same.
NZXT even has one with sliders
Mind = blown
Yup, I would still be using my old Lamptron controller if my case had a 5.25" bay.
@iamezza - Which is why you should STOP FUCKING BUYING THEM.
There's ZERO excuse not to have a 5.25" bay on any Micro-ATX case and larger. These full size towers are taking the absolute piss by removing practical features and replacing them with RGB bullshit.
My Corsair 650D has an inbuilt hotswap bay and I use it all the time. On my next computer build I'm going to be recycling the 650D as a backup machine for clients computers with all 4 5.25" bays running multiple HDD hotswap backplanes.
You know that they put that cable routing puk in just for you. I would almost bet on it. Watch retail versions of the case not actually having it.
Nate You are just pulling my leg, aren't you?
Hardware Canucks' had one in it.
Good shit Steve. I'm kind of annoyed that this is called machine learning. It is literally false advertising and potentially unwanted data mining.
I also feel like it's an insult to professional people that are actually creating machine learning devices.
I was thinking the exact same thing. This is just them grabbing info so they can more efficiently produce their own fans or sell the info to someone.
This IS machine learning. And some of you underestimate the value of the data being collected.
T B No it is not. The algorithm is to ship your information to their servers to be averaged out with every other person in a similar boat. This is called a program. It doesn't learn anything except an additional data point to be averaged. A simple while loop can do that.
oh boy, sounds like this one is going to take way more explaining than I have energy for. Gamers Nexus, perhaps a video explaining machine learning is in order, given that this is a new technology implemented in your area of expertise. In the meantime I urge viewers/commenters to research it on their own.
23:50
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SAVAGE NEXUS at it again
That h500P cameo made me spit my drink out!
You are literally going to become the bane of these companies' existence . Thank you for being one of the very few in our corner, Steve!!!
Doubtful. Smart companies may chafe at his delivery, but will take the feedback.
You said it yourself, "smart" companies will do that, however, a real smart company wouldn't put out a non-working product or in this example of the case being reviewed, software that doesn't work. You can easily ignore the advanced fan controller in this case, but you are paying for the functionality or lack thereof.
Frank R smart companies do whatever makes the most money. Unfortunately stupid consumers lap up this kind of crap. Hopefully channels like this will force companies to improve attention to detail, but ti be perfectly honest, this channel alone doesn't have enough reach.
If he says its bad its a guarantee you need to get it, in my experiences with the 100's of builds we do.
Maybe im weird but I set my own fan curves. Actually I feel like this is the channel where I might not be the only person.
Bryce Jonathan yeah baby. We love our fan curves
I just set a static fan speed and I leave it
Bryce Jonathan I love my fan curves lol
Yea, 6 fans?
I wish my case fans could be set to gpu temps threw motherboard software :x that's one place where asus's bios are better then most. I tried using a Nzxt cam but the experience with some fans was not good
Remove all the electronics and include a puck. Then it will be my fave case... Maybe make the cable management bracket easier to remove (we need a sexy detach button). it should be reshaped a little too.
Agreed!
"An extra half inch would have gone a long way" -Every girl that I've slept with
Dustin I can believe that it would have tripled your performance!
two in , one to go
you mean both of them? Wow!
lololol I love your content and opinion more every single day. So much fun, so much data, SO MUCH TRUTH!
There's actually a third screw behind the cable routing path you'll need to mind when removing the cable shroud.
Science Studio Hello my handsome man
Yeah. Clearly this changes everything.
how wude
hi Greg
smart
23:52 fucking jump scare, dude!!!
This video has earned my subscription. I’ve admired the in-depth review and deep dives for a long time but I feel like there was something missing. Now I see fantastic videos and I’m here for the long run.
Really? A computer case part that have to be online and have an account? Laughable.
Why didn't they just make the (not particularity)smart device a simple temp / acoustic meter And completely skip the load% thing.
Mined information is expensive. NZXT wants a piece of the pie.
Just came here to say, I bought a puck a few days ago after watching your Nzxt case reviews and got it today and I'm loving it. Strong magnet holds my headphones and the puck splits to hold my cables... This is literally apples philosophy of "think different" except Nzxt idea is 11/10. Quality stuff. Much puck. So innovation. I just bought another one for my work case.
Lmao- I can't believe this case has literal cable trays in the back to route along.
NO FLAKES HERE MEN. Steve tells it how it is! Love the blunt reviews lately. More TechTubers should learn from this instead of kissing companies assess
I've seen cases that crack the top panel/ open up etc when temperatures hit a certain degrees. Would've been much easier/cheaper to implement and probably a nicer gimmick to push that 200$ price tag.
That being said sweet review and wow this case is really pretty
Hi Steve! I'm actually quite interested in the smart device. After you go through the painful setup, is it good at setting a fan curve? Like is it fairly quiet and does it set a fan curve better than the average user? Also is it PWM? THANK YOU!!!
Was set on getting the H700i, but couldn't justify spending £200 on a "smart" case, when the smart bit is essentially a fan curve. Went for the S340 Elite instead for £75 :) Have contacted NZXT to arrange the purchase of a spare front panel so I can mod the S340E for better air flow, as that was the only bad point in my opinion.
1:57 - I agree, the S340E definitely has airflow problems, but I really think that it being less than half the price of the H700i, it's still very much a strong option. Holes cut into the front panel would massive improve airflow to the case :) Great vid, as always.
You can move the bar closer to the front by a little bit aswell it has a second lot of screw holes.
Your videos are getting funnier and funnier each time. I love the scathing sarcasm nestled in between your clinical professionalism. Great combo.
Ratter have 5 pucks like Steve than the "Smart" Device, this case is gois to be ATROCIOUSLY expensive in Brazil...
Steve, you have mastered the "ironically pissed off but i kinda like " type of review, very good work, keep up! You expressed exactly and perfectly how do i feel about the case, maybe at 120USD it will replace my S340.
R$1820 right now and only with the red color...wait....pq eu to falando inglês com um br ?
Another great review Steve! Do you wish they would included the puck with the case as well?
I was waiting for your review... the wait was worth! :P
I'd happily buy one of these for 150 without the fan controller & a free puck instead
Have you checked the H700?
@@user-kk4bq7mb8u by that time the H700 wasn't a thing, the only case available was the H700i
This is one of the best if not the best PC hardware channels. Great work! - btw what LED light panel was that (in the solo case shot)?
Hey, great video, as always. One question - why don't you ever review Phateks cases? Enthoo Evolve for instance, would be great to hear your opinion on such an advertised and popular case.
Now that newegg sells the h700 that excludes the smart devices, what would you say about h700 vs h500?? Would you recommend the 700 (w/ out smart device) over the h500? Starting my first build and like the h500 however if the h700 has notable better performance, I don't mind spending a little extra. Anybody with their thoughts would be greatly appreciated!
@gamers nexus what is the cable extension kit you used for the 24 pin cable for that corsair rm650? X been looking but not sure what to be looking for
Gamers Nexus 4 LIFE
Hey Steve, I've been checking your case reviews and I haven't found a single one for a Phanteks case. Is there a grudge between GN and this company or is it just a coincidence?
Hey Steve I love all your reviews.
Would you consider this H700 (dumb version) or H500 for a Threadripper 1920x (Multi GPU 2x 1070) workstation build? I heard on your review that the H500 might suffocate on SLI but I won't be doing SLI so I'm not sure.
Excellent review GN once again absolutely enjoyed it, learned a lot.
Hey I love your content and have been watching for a while and your comment on the Cam software temp notifications Triggered me!
I have an I7-700k and Every time I oc it using the Asus m/board settings I get warnings the temps are over between 80-90... Is that fine? its just short random spikes never constant. This is my first computer that I built recently, so Im not to sure on these things. I have been running it at standard clock because of this. Is there better software you recommend? Thanks
13:20 it doesn't need a computer inside of it. NOW HOLD ON FOR A SECOND STEVE!
Great work with this video !
Keep up good work guys !!
i just routed the cable under the bar and it REALLY cleans up the look of the case im not sure why you chose to force the 24 pin over the top of the cable bar? just go directly behind it and then flatten out the bowing cables with combs
Glad they took your advice on doing a non smart version of this case . Now I can’t decide between the black/blue version or the all black
I built my own PC and sometimes when under load my 7700K reaches over 80 degrees and I have the NZXT Kraken X52 to cool it, CAM throws the same notification saying that it’s too hot and will reduce the lifespan of the CPU? I have mine only overclocked to 4.6 GHz because I didn’t wanna push it too much, is it safe to run it that way? Any help would be awesome!
This is an actual critical review, and it points out the flaws. Thats how its done right! No shilling, no apologizing no bullsh!t!
The product manufacturer can watch this, and improve his product very easily. Good work Steve.
So just so I'm understanding this correctly. It's completely fine to use the fans without the CAM linked controller right? You can just hook the fans up how you normally would any other chassis instead?
"The rest of the case is fantastic, I wish it wasn't $200." That's exactly how I feel about it. Such a nice case, would have been on my short list of cases I'd move from the P400 for. Looks like I'm still waiting for a white Meshify C.
White Meshify C is here, along with the H700 for $150 without smart devices.
So tell me, fortune teller, what will next year bring?
Brock q
Liked after 5 seconds. Always coming with the heat with the video intros!
Your rants are the most enjoyable and entertaining ever
YES I was waiting for you to do this review
Urgh, bullshit parts on an actually awesome looking case
Pietro Crespi Its their standard case test rig, that's why it's always the same.
I meant the "Machine learning" stuff
Is this case worth it now that they made the H700(non smart version), which is around $150? Or is there a better case to be had at that price still? Trying to upgrade from my s340 elite.
Good to see I'm not the only one who threw the "smart" device away. Didn't need the adressable 5v rgb (or white led?) stripes and additional fan connectors either ( *plonk*).
Great Review Steve and Patrick, are you gonna review any phanteks any time soon?
Can you use the smart device only as a hue substitute for the LED strips and use your mobo for cooling control? And if so: In my country, the difference between h700 and h700i is about 30 €, do you think aesthetically the LED strips are worth the 30 bucks?
If you don’t use the Hue+ that control fans and rgb leds, will those leds plug into a supported motherboard? Or do the led have to run through the hue+ which will also force you to use the built in crappy fan controls?
I am loving this "mini sarcastic start", its great and even though they are intended to be humorous, they are still on point.
Best review I've seen on this case! I thoroughly agree with you. NZXT should offer this with or without the 2 devices. I already own a Hue+ and I like setting my own fan curves. Price the case slightly above the S340 Elite and I'll definitely buy it and post a build video in it!
Great review! Could you not have routed the main power connector in front of the blue cover bar and then into the cutout behind it? Not ideal but it would have looked better than squeezing and bending the cable behind it.
So, the SSD brackets can come off from the back, and be mounted on top of the grilled power supply shroud?
Hi Mr. Burke, could you recommend a monitoring software that you can have on display all the time and doesn't consume a lot of resources?
When steve lets his wings open up he unleashes hell fire on companies. I love it.
Nice to see a real review by the best pc hardware tester. Thx.
would the NZXT H700 CA-H700B-B1 be a better version if you dont want the smart feature and extra lighting? Its less than 200 and looks exactly the same as the h700i
I have this case and I completely agree with you. The smart device doesn't work at all. I've been running it for a week in hopes it might figure itself out and no luck. I will be removing it and plugging everything into the motherboard. Great review!
I can't believe they don't have more subs. This is one of the best tech channels.
u can change cam software's notifications in the settings... cpu temp warnings can be adjusted to whatever temp u want
I have a H700i and I love the case. Only downside is that Smart Device and the Cable management bar. It interferes with any EATX motherboard and any right angled 24Pin. Also if you plan to custom loop. It isn't too friendly with larger graphic cards since you won't have space to place a reservoir unless you mount it ontop of the PSU shroud so you lose 2 2.5 inch mounts.
That was an amazing review and I laughed so hard! Great work Steve & Patrick.
In the specs it sais it has room for 2+1 3,5" drives. I can't figure out where the +1 is. Do you also think one could easely fit custom watercooling without drilling holes? I might buy this to relpace my Corsair 800D
H700i looks decent compared to recent cases but the Define R5 is still my favorite. R5 has support for a 420mm radiator on the top and still has room for eight 3.5" drives with two SSD mounts behind the motherboard, all without being a massive full tower.
And doesn't hurt that can find the R5 for under $100 while the H700i is $200 with no 5.25" support, weaker fan/radiator support and minuscule 3.5" support. But I guess it looks kinda cool?
soo... the bugs and issues aside though, when that "machine learning" fan controller finally DOES work, does it actually do anything useful? how does it compare with letting your mainboard manage the fans or just having the fans always run at the same speed?
i was considering buying this case. thanks for the great review and saving me money on stuff i don't need
This is how politely ripping a new one looks like.
CAM software allows you to customize the temperature threshold for notification to a higher level(see settings/notifications). You are referencing the default value. You may rethink doing a bit more research on these products before making definitive assertions, but I do get that sometimes things just get past us.
Interesting review. I'd like to see a lineup of all the cases you've tested with a temp vs dbA analysis and graph. If you've done this already my apologies and where is the vid/link?
its my i7 7700k cool at 68 degree and 4,8 ghz with an scythe ninja 4 cooler ?
Love the intro, sir. Well done.
Holy shit I miss watching you guys @ Gamer's Nexus. Been waaaaaaaaay too busy at work these past 2 months.
I hope they release a just case version, it looks amazing.
What do you guys think of changing the front fans to corsair hd120 ones? Will cam still try to control them?
You could take a longer route with that 24 pin and go over the bar and then behind so that it doesn't look so crappy. Not everything has to be as short of a route as possible especially with cable extensions.
agreed...would like to see you do a video on NZXT's cam software and how bad/buggy it is and why they cannot seem to fix it
Man, i seriously hope NZXT takes all this in good spirit again. This is an insane amount of pretty priceless critique and evaluation for practically no cost. Like, no joke, without the smart devices, I'd probably snatch it, because it's one of the few solid front panel cases with some actual ventilation.
Thanks Steve n' Co. excellent work as always.
I've watched this a few times, that intro is sooo good.
Is it bad having this smart device in my pc if i didnt download anything for it, or do i have to throw it out?
The 85°c temp warning is an all around temp warning. Ice gotten that for both my 980ti and my 5930k when I was tweaking some fan curve settings and then stress testing an oc. Ice since stopped using cam, for what should be obvious reasons. At this point I just use CPUID HWMonitor. Frankly it better utilizes the sensors in my hardware than even say corsair's own software.
Wait a minute.
So with the ncxt software my fan settings stop working without internet connection?
What sort of crap is that? So if i let my PC run over night do finish some job, and my internet connection dies, it will potentially let it run into emergency shutdown?
Thats really good to know, now i have one more company on my NoBuy list.
1) lmao @ 23:53
2) wouldn’t think twice for a i700d @ $150
3) great stuff as always!
H700 is here now for $150, I believe.
I saw about 3 other reviews on this case, not a single one mentioned anything about the fan controller let alone that it didn’t work properly, rather the software didn’t work properly. Makes me seriously question their reviews especially when they also reviewed the Cooler master one recently and again mentioned nothing about the build quality
I suspect that nobody actually tries to break it (or push it) like Steve surely does. And yeah, in that case they're worse than the consumer going to the store and looking at the damn thing themselves.
I wish I saw this video before pulling the trigger on the Phanteks Enthoo Pro M TG. I read your review of it on the website and the noise levels on the chart threw me off, but I didn't see it mentioned anywhere that you were running the fans at max. That means the case could be relatively quiet and still cool well with better fans at lower RPMs.
I love reviews like this. Love it Steve good job again with this honest review. I want this case, but knowing the CAM is shit I’ll wait until NZXT take it out the case.
steve youre on a savage rampage this month.
A very solid review. I hate when companies use stupid marketing buzz words to try and sell us on gimmicks.
Would be cool to see a review of the H200i. You mentioned the perforation in the PSU shroud doesn't help much with cooling. I'd be curious to see if it makes a difference with an mITX build.
Hi
Is it possible to move trays to the motherboard from the left to the right side? can be done the same with the window?
Regards
Your content recently has been on fleek. I am loving the sass. "Once you retrieve it from the garage"
23:47
I think I've just now realized that this is my favorite tech review group ever.