2024 Tundra Engine Recall? - Oil Filter Inspection
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 มิ.ย. 2024
- I am opening and inspecting the oil filter of my 2024 Toyota Tundra.
Currently there is a recall for some of the 2022 and 2023 Tundra iForce engines due to metal debris left in the engine block during manufacturing.
Inspecting the oil filter for metal debris could tell me if my 2024 engine is affected. - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
Excellent video! Thanks for posting.
Great idea and execution - subbed, thank you!
Thanks for sharing! I had my 2024 tundra platinum oil changed at 5000 miles instead of waiting until the recommended 10,000. I have had no issues so far, knock on wood! They did include a 10 year 100,000 mile extended warranty and a free maintenance plan to 60,000. So I should be fine.
well done, I would never wait for 10k. Those are for perfect conditions and we never get that. I did by first 1k break-in oil change then after that every 5k or 6 months, whichever comes first!
I feel better after watching this! Bought my 2024 Tundra a month ago and it’s running smooth, I have 4k miles on it so far.
Only about one percent of 22s and 23s are actually failing. Domestic V8s have a failure rate of about four percent. Even though this is a major problem for Toyota, it’s still more reliable than any other truck. This will end up being a bulletproof engine in a couple years.
@@user-tb7rn1il3q Where did you find the 4% figure?
Daily Mail@@4wd4Life-xs3id
@@4wd4Life-xs3idThe failure rate on the V35A is 0.8% as of right now. Like 834 trucks out of the 102,000 engines recalled. I have a '24 Limited TRD-OR Hybrid with just over 1,000 miles on it. My truck was built in march 2024 and in January 2024, Toyota superseded the part numbers for the short block. I'm not worried about my truck anymore unless it starts running funny.
@stratochief99 That .8% seems low considering some owners have been through two engines in the same truck. Self reported numbers will always be low. The failure rates of GM engines (GM authority) is between 1-2%. Depending on where you measure, the failure rate of every engine is 100%.
You look good to go and I wouldn't worry about it from this point on. This is what ALL owners of new Toyota's with the new V6 TT should be doing.
You have no idea what you're talking about
@@bad_vaporizer You have your opinion, follow it.
@@RonRussell-sj1zf it's not about opinions. It's based on reports. Follow it.
Excellent example of how to check for a bearing issue. Great video! Thanks! PS: It's the front main bearing that is failing, not the rear. Cheers!
how do you know ? youtube schooler ? or legit source
@@fahhad17 Last updated info I had heard two days ago mentioned that most failures were on Main Bearing No 1, but some had failed on Main Bearing No 3. If you want to research it, you sound like you have plenty of time on that keyboard in your mom's basement. Piss off.
You should send a sample out for oil analysis. They can pick up bearing metal that won't be visible. I use Blackstone labs on all my vehicles oil changes and track it over time.
Good suggestion, thank you!
I just wanted to know if my Tundra had obvious signs of the reported machining debris left in some 2022 and 2023 engines.
I used to analyze aircraft jet engine oil in the Air Force. Spectrometric oil analysis.
I cut my filter on my 2023 TRD pro just a couple of days ago. Just like your filter only found small amounts of aluminum. This is completely normal for break in of engine. I found a lot more break in material in the filters of my airplane after 10 hours of flight. Tons of particles. I was freaking out! lol two 40k engines. On my next oil change almost nothing.
I see Toyota replacing all the engines because no one has x-ray vision to see in the engine. Toyota wants this problem to go away and bring confidence back to the tundra platform. If we don’t get new engines they never will. The owners will have no confidence in the truck and that you’re driving a ticking time bomb.
Great video!
That’s a pipe dream. Toyota will probably just offer an extended warranty and replace those that fail. It would be incredibly expensive to replace all these engines.
Will see in a month when the repair procedure is release from Toyota. It’s a drop in a bucket for Toyota to replace all the engines. The customers they will lose if they don’t replace them will be a way bigger problem for them. Look up THE CAR CARE NUT he just did a video on why they have to replace them. He was a master technician with Toyota for 20 years. He even talks about a Toyota that they did full long block replacement which they never do. Not worried at all Panama City Toyota hooked me up with a life time power train warranty!
From what insiders say they will take an oil sample on recalled vehicles and any that have high particulate in the oil will be repaired further. Any at normal levels will be good to go. It's 824 out of 400,000 effected so far, but that number will likely increase over time.
@@JimmyMakingitwork will see in a few weeks.
@@stevemorris6270 Ya I watched that video too. But there is no way Toyota is going to ship 100k+ engines and pay labor. They will simply fix the ones that break and as the car care nut pointed out, any new engines will have the superseded parts.
Also lifetime powertrains are a scam 100% of the time. Read the fine print. They will wiggle out.
Looks excellent, nothing to be concerned about there. I'll be doing the same on mine and my sons at 500-1,000 miles also. Just for peace of mind but I hear they actually have changed things on the 24's and only very early ones might be affected if at all.
I just purchased a 2024 Limited in late March...which was built with a build date of early March. Yes I read the same thing that Toyota rectified the problem and complete changed engine assembly guidelines and procedures by production date early December 2023. At 600 miles on mine I also drained my oil, sent a Sample out for analysis and opened and inspected the oil filter. Everything looks perfect including the lab results....keeping my fingers crossed 🤞 I'm using pennzoil ultra platinum 5w20 full synthetic and Toyota oil filter...I'll change the oil again at 3000 miles
In all fairness, you're not even through the break in period yet. Some recommend changing the oil right after that too
*Great scientific video... your Tundra will be FINE* ❤
you could send it in for oil analysis. It's would be normal to have some metal in there. your premature for engine break-in but I get it! You want to be sure!
Best truck in the world guy
Yes .... 2007 to 2021 tundras!
I would change the oil at 1000 miles or for first oil change .
Agreed, I will do that.
So have any hybrids actually failed? Or is it the non hybrid versions only?
Not sure if any hybrids have failed, but the recall is only on the non hybrids. When I last checked there were 75 failures recorded out of 100000 affected recalls. I am really not concerned about by 05/2024 iforce max. I just thought it would be interesting to check the filter for debris.
Why do manufacturers put out such tiny oil filters? My 400cc motorcycle uses a filter this size, as well as two screens.
I completely agree, my motorcycles have bigger filters. It could be that this small filter is sufficient for the low viscosity oil used in modern engines. In this case 0W20 weight. I am sure Toyota engineers used data and science to specify the filter surface area needed to meet sufficient filtration needs.
the car care nut just bought a tundra, thats a plus
Yes, that is excellent news. He bought a Hybrid.
Guys with huge Toyota followings may be getting breaks or kickbacks from Toyota for these purchases. Their videos are a big positive for Toyota...think about it.
Okay, unless it’s a big piece of metal you won’t see the type of material that’s so small it gets between the bearing and crank! You need to do an oil analysis to determine the condition of the oil!
You can clearly see bearing material in an oil filter. Just gonna show you that it's already screwed.
I’m at almost 11k on my ‘23 1794 hybrid, not a single hiccup to mention. I had a ‘22 1794 that was so kindly hit head on, that had just hit 13k, again, with no issues. Both incredible to drive and own. It’s nice to see some reassuring remarks here but I’ve also had no doubt that Toyota would take care of its customers, plus the fact that the number of actual failed engines is tiny. Just don’t go over to Reddit or Facebook unless you want people who don’t even own the trucks to scream in your ear that you have a piece of junk. 🙄
I think this goes to show that all the online opinions about the demise of the Tundra need to be looked at in perspective. The facts are that we still do not know how many Tundra’s are going to be affected by the engine issues. It may be far less than the click baiters and Toyota haters have alluded to. Toyota will find a solution and make their customers confident about their vehicle’s once more of that you can be sure.
I would recommend examining the filter indoors and under a high intensity lights for a more complete picture of any possible metal flakes.
You had a great idea with the video content and I hope that other Tundra owners do the same. They might be surprised that the number of affected engines are much lower than initially reported.
Love your comment, thank you!
But it wouldn’t be the internet if they didn’t have something to complain about. After this channel the trolls are off to give bad restaurant reviews
I agree totally with everything that you stated. I Just purchased a just off the assembly line 2024 Limited...just changed oil at 600 miles...including opening and inspecting the oil filter and sent out oil sample to lab for analysis...everything looks perfect including lab results. I'm confident moving forward this engine situation is rectified now.
@@user-jd2sr5dc9k Great information, thank you! Mine was manufactured late May 2024. I think I will be fine.
Good video. I have an early 24 and hoping. Good indicator but not sure if a clean filter means anything in this problem
It means nothing .. these vehicles are ticking time bombs.. total junk.
@@mjuberianboohoo you cant even afford one LOL why you crying 😭 😂😂
My friend, you are squandering great opportunities here !!!!!! ! drain the oil
Take a sample, send it to Blackstone..
They will.
Tell you in their report if contaminants and metals are more than average. I'm not saying this is going to reveal everything but at least it's an opportunity to see what's going on in a brand new engine....
And an opportunity for you to put fresh oil during the break in period
Post the results ....
thank you
Cutting the paper filter media and laying it out flat would have been more definitive than just peeking between the pleats. I’m not sure I would call this a good / unaffected truck just yet but time will tell.
Who was not doing their job on machining debris on those engines?
Don't worry, the 2024s had a part sucession vs the 2023s so they don't have the same mid block with the machining debris, I hope that offers some reassurance.
You are not supposed to tow before 500 miles is reached , read the break in period in manual
It could be a design issue hard for me to believe it’s just shavings
The small amount of metal in the filter is completely normal for a brand new engine during break in period. I will look at it again at 1000 miles.
If they are telling the truth that it is actually metal shavings and not a design flaw.
Great video! The reason I bought my 2017 Tundra new was so I could drive decades without any worries and this far I can sleep like a baby. It was not the same with my 2 Chevy vans and my new Avalanche I bought years ago.
The Tundra is a worst in class pile of shit, they are oil leaking gas guzzling pigs and received a POOR in crash testing. It's a japanese tin can, congrats on buying the worst truck on the market!
I said this is wut Toyota was gonna do for the rescll... other makes have done this... then do an Lil change check for metal.and beat run
Watch car care nut
In April2024 TOYOTA a changed the part number of the block ( different block) and they discontinued the number 1 and 4 bearing
New bearing yet to be determined
SAD TO SAY bad bottom end
This all day long^^^^. It's unconscionable that Toyota is still selling trucks in this window.
Selling these trucks is conspiracy to defraud
Maybe you,should watch the video, lol. Honestly dude.
Watch the video again...Toyota DID NOT change or supersede the block or any other short block components.
@@user-jd2sr5dc9kgo to the car care nuts video. Absolutely some new parts. He did an in depth part number analysis.
Pictures of failed engines show main bearing damage on all bearings not just one. Hybrid trucks are not recalled as they still have motive power after the engine fails so they can be driven to a safe spot.
The Car Care Nut, who is a certified master Toyota tech, has a really good video on it. It actually puts my mind at ease with my Tundra.
Same here. I was freaking out until I saw his vid. It's nice to listen to someone who actually knows what they're talking about vs all the youtube doomsday hype about the recall. My mind is at ease for now.
I second that...same here. I just purchased a 2024 Limited
I have a '24 Tundra with 7600 miles on it. And I've owned 5 Toyota pickups over the last 40 years (with zero problems). Naturally, I'm a bit concerned about this issue. But, based on my experience so far, the 2024 is the best pickup I've ever owned.
I have a 2023 did the same thing 3 times zero metal 😅
“It’s a really small oil filter” 🥴
Yes it is. My theory is that the size (surface area) is sufficient for the very thin oil (0W20). I do trust Toyota to size it correctly. This filter is used in a lot of other cars and trucks.
My oil looks cleaner on my 2024 sequoia with 2500 miles.
I think they changed the manufacturing process in march of 23
Yes...that is correct. However some of those engines that were built right at or just prior til that time may have been installed in very early production 2024 models. Remember there were 2024 Tundra's hitting the Dealership lots in mid to late summer 2023...just something to think about!...hence of reports of a very few 2024 with this issue
@@user-jd2sr5dc9k have you read the toyota investigation report? I made a video about it.
Good job. From what I understand they corrected the issue in 2023 so your 2024 may be ok. I sure hope so that’s a really nice truck.
Toyota will take care of business.
Yes they will. I am not worried about that : )
I know he's doing all he can, and I appreciate that, but the issue would be what the metal does while it's inside the engine. If it made it into the filter, that's good news, but the damage would happen before the filter had a chance to do it's job.
The oil goes through the filter PRIOR to going into the engine. You are right, it is a good thing if the filter catches it. However, that is happening before it is pumped to the engine. If the filter is catching everything, then nothing gets in there. I hope these particles are big enough for the filter to stop them, but who knows.
You're not going to see anything until it fails. The "metal debris" is a scapegoat toyota is using to cover up for the real issue, which is the bottom end design. They used cast iron main caps on an aluminum engine block, the two metals expand and contract at different rates. The bearing goes out of round and then it spins and the engine loses oil pressure, resulting in failure.
interesting point
I have a 2022 Toyota Tundra SR5 TRD Off Road with more than 26K miles ... no issues! My truck is my DAILY driver ....
Watch CarCareNut review few days ago. He did some in depth analysis. They quietly modified short block and long block parts (old part# has been discontinued. They also changed few main bearings in April 2024.
Who knows what else they changed!?
Basically. I am hoping for a complete engine replacement. New engine in, old engine out.
Also, replace turbines, Vince their bearings could have been damaged too.
Finally, give us all 200,000 km/miles extended warranty.
Go try to trade it and you will see.
See what?
@@TwinTurboToyota that there indeed is a problem. The manufacturer and dealers KNOW there is a major underlying design issue and these turbo engines are defective.
They will grossly low ball you on the trade or not accept a trade at all and reveal the truth of the matter.
@@tanthony3895 dealerships are taking these on trade, a guy contacted 10 in one video and they all offered to trade or buy the truck
Well, that’s because the oil the Toyota oil filters aren’t that great of a filter to catch particles now they are a good filter for flow. They allow a lot of flow to go through them. A lot of boil, but they’re not that great at catching the little particles so the best way to do it is just drain the oil and the oil pan clean the oil pan before you start and then drain the oil and then the oil pan, I think 24 are also gonna be recalled and the hybrids aren’t being recalled only because they have an alternative alternative motor to get them out of harms away. This is a safety recall, and the hybrid can still move under battery operated power and that’s why it’s not on the recall, but it’s definitely the same motor. It’s gonna have the same issues.
I will keep my 5.7 v8. I am no fans of turbos. BMW and FORD have prooved that beyond a doubt. NA engines are way more reliable
I agree with your comment. Unfortunately EPA regulations are driving manufacturers to these smaller displacement turbo engines to meet emissions and fuel efficiency standards. This is my first turbo charged vehicle and I do like the torque it makes at low RPM. The electric motor may help this, but it is only rated at 48HP.
@@offgridsimplicity I have seen claims by some YT CHANNELS that the demise of the V8 is a mission by the WEF and evil nazi Klaus Schwab. Thankfully evil Santa Klaus is no more. The fuel economy of the v8 is marginally worse than the ttv6 if it even is. I see 12 to 14 litres per 100 kms with my Tundra on the hiway. That isn't really that bad. What is more environmentally freindly...replacing a v6 way prematurely or having a long lived v8 or any NA engine?
@@offgridsimplicitythe EPA regulations were not approved and voted on by the Congress. They may be revoked by an executive order aft November. Neither imposing EV nor cutting V8 will save the planet. That’s biggest fairy tale to date! 😂 thx for the video.
If the debris is in fact in the oil galley of the crank., ,, machinig debris,, it is beyond the filter straight to the main bearings. 😂
Don’t you think it would go through the bearings with the oil and end up in the filter?
You cannot trust what Toyota says. There might a different reason for the current Tundra problem
I would have drained the oil and add fresh, if it were me.
It would have been a good opportunity, but there is nothing wrong with the oil. I will change it early in a couple of months.
@@offgridsimplicityU didn't send it Blackstone labs....jus visual on the filter which I think I saw some flecks....isn't good enough....good vid but still...take a sample send it out asap and make a vid of that
I'm glad I didn't trade in my '16 tundra.
All praise to the 4.7 look like Toyota fix something that was not broken
I never believed Toyotas excuse for these engines failing " debris left over from machining " b.s ! . If you research you will notice Toyota changed/updated the part number for #1 connecting rod bearing . A coincidence?? I think not .... Common sense says that there was a flaw in the design of that specific bearing being used from 2022 to 2023 . They are now building new trucks with the updated bearing ...
So all in all you checking for debris in the filter is a waste of time 🤷
Stay away 3.4 duel turbo won’t last
It will last longer than a Ford Ecobomb trust 😢
Why do people continue buying these vehicles? You just can’t make this stuff up? Not logical.
What we going to buy because gmc ford ram are any better
Exactly, Toyota can't show the problems they're saying. Engineering failure
Trade that crap in
Potential $70k paperweight 🤦
I can't believe how paranoic people are now in days about issues on their cars. If you can afford a $70K brand new truck why you worry so much about recalls or issues on new cars? that is why you have warranty and/or money to buy another truck if you want. Don't be so cheap and enjoy more life. Focus all the time you are spending on thinking the issues your new truck has on how to generate more money and add more business to your life so you don't have to be worry about all these things. Waste of time spending your time on this 😎✌🏻
amen 🙏 🙏 🙏
If you would ever have build only a single engine in your life, you would understand 🫡
There isn't a recall on the hybrid *yet* because the hybrid system lets the truck limp to the side of the road when the engine fails. 2024 is not recalled yet to avoid a stop sale. Depending on when yours was made, it might need a new engine. The crankshaft end bearings are bad on all of the engines up until early 2024.