8th generation is the standard by it which all civics measure themselves... Only one of them won motor trend car of the Year only one of them went North American car of the Year only one of them has an 8500 fuel cut off
You described the 9th gen perfectly imo. I want a new car, going for an SI. But I need it to be a comfy, daily as well. 9th gen has the feel along with the upgrade interior and tech.
@@ProjectRad Along with the "simple mods". I don't care to spend an enormous amount on my car. Just want it to be nice, so spending a good bit rather than a ton. I think the 9th is the perfect point.
2007 si is the reason I got a 2013 si. It was unfortunately not the same BUT I still loved it and still felt like the wheels were trying to escape the rest of the car when rippin thru the gears. Good day or bad day at work that car put a smile on my face going home
I have a 9th gen and never driven a 8th and I perfectly happy with it. I wouldn't sell it for a 8th gen but I can see why people think the 8th is better
I love that the commenters can all agree both cars have a place in the hearts of honda lovers. Both cars have pros and cons but at the end of the day the cars are brothers with pretty good performance
This is a great comparison, I drove several 9th gens before I bought my 2011 8th gen. The 9th gen is nice and looks pretty good, but it feels like it has no soul, the 8th gen is the most exciting NA engine I have ever driven. Launching it feels like everything happens so fast making it feel much faster than what it is.
9th is aging nicely while 8th starting to look like it's from 1990. The rear is the nicest design but the front still look ghetto. If you drive the 9th gen into a mall parking lot you would be less ghetto than a boxy 1990 car 8th gen.
Awesome video bro, the cat needs more screen time lol. I used to own a r18 8th gen. then bought the fa5. I’m super hyped with the performance, but I kinda miss the r18 fuel efficiency tho lol 😂
I bought a 9th gen sedan about a year ago, and I’ve recently started regretting it. I wish I had seen this video beforehand! 😂 The 8th gen suits me more. I love high revving Hondas and I’m pretty low maintenance, meaning I don’t really need all the commodities that the 9th gen interior comes with. Great video man
Whats interesting about the 9th gen is the prototype coupe had the same HDMI exhaust the 10th gen has and the 11th gen is back to bland. Honda purposely did what they did in the past to get us into turbo hence the K24 responding better with boost. Even the 10th gen tail lights resemble the 9th gen. Its interesting how Honda fixes something and comes back with it again that is much more improved.
I bought a 9th gen FB6 , and I also just purchased a FA5 as well. Love both cars but I'm a lil biased to the 9th due to getting 1st and having longer. But there is a noticeable difference in handling and the PowerBand. K24 is perfect for daily driving, k20 is a great weekend car, rev happy, track kind of car
My daily is an 8th gen si black , I already got the whole front end repainted and the rear repainted. I’m about to finish the doors next summer. Pretty much I brought the car back to life , engine swap will be tsx k24 which is also in route. I would have had it done sooner but I have a GTR and an f80m3 that I’m doing at the same time 😂. But now the 8th gen si gets my attention.
Got my 2010 Mazda RX-8 Gran Touring wrecked 2 years ago and I ended up getting a 2015 Honda Civic Si Coupe...I used to hate on FWD cars but the Si changed my mind...it handles and drives great, there is understeer since its front wheel drive, but not a lot and suprised how great suspension is tuned stock
It's hard to tell, based on your demonstration, considering your driving habits and what grade the road is at... but it sounds like the 9th gen struggles to get up to 7k RPM. The vtec is there, but it's not pushing it like it does with the 8th gen. I find it fun driving the 8th gen up hills with some bends. The LSD paired with 3rd gear at 4.5k-7.5k feels right to me. Great video.
I absolutely love the 2010 si coupe that I'm still rolling in here in 2024. Very reliable, and a blast to drive. The clear coat is peeling, as you said, but I call that the custom paint option "galaxy" and that includes the zip ties on the front bumper. I want to keep this car forever.
Great video bro ! I always felt like in simpler terms the 8th gen is more racecar and the si for younger people and the 9th gen si is the si for grown ups lol
They're basically the same exact car with a different engine homie and upgraded interior it took everything about the 8th gen and dolled it down a notch that's why they call it gen 8.5
Picking up a mint 50k mile 9th gen sedan tomorrow. Hard to find a all stock low mile one let alone a 8th gen like that even more. I decided on the 9th gen cause I want something more quiet comfy and refined and probably safer. Definitely not doing coil overs. Going to leave it stock and clean.
I had a 2014 Si coupe , but went back to a 2009 Si sedan , your comparison is very accurate, I loved the interior and tech on the 2014 Si including the torque and sound of the k24z7 , BUT the 8th gen Si is truly the last real Si , the seats definitely do hug you more around corners ! It does feel lighter compared to the 9th gen , the 9th gen has a lot more body roll around corners vs then 8th gen feels more planted , and there is a WORLD of modifications including interior !!!! You can swap out your steering wheel , dash , speedometer, seats , door inserts, front end / rear end with the jdm CTR FD2 parts !!! K24a2 and JDM K20A are direct swaps as well , and even though less torque, the TRUE VTEC is the whole point of the Si ! It’s an addicting sound and feeling ! Also the 8th gen looks wider than the 9th gen which is a plus for me ! 8th gen for the win !!!!
Appreciate it man!! I probably will make a video more in depth about them since my k20z3 is burning more oil then I would like. So a swap is in this channels future!
I think you got the best 9th gen. I like the black seats. I do like to spoiler on my 2012 a bit more but the exterior of that 13 is clean especially the black and carbon interior
That’s because you don’t own a 9th gen with the k20z3 head that’s on another level believe me and on top of that add the nicer interior and exterior of the 9th gen plus the new tech you can’t beat it not even the newer civic’s
when I worked for Honda we received the 9th gen Civic I drove it and compare to the 8th gen it felt soft like the chassis is bending at a corner at low speed honestly they should have released the prototype version will I buy a 9th gen Civic? not really I will buy the ILX instead for the extra nice video with your commentator!
I really like the 13-15’s but the 2012 even the sedan are little lighter than the coupe 8th gen,I have both but sold the 8th gen I do prefer the 9th gen in all the aspects true most of the things he mentioned but honestly the 12’s is by far my favorite no chrome no nothing like that simple and lighter miss the 8th gen but again both are great probably by personal preference but still way better 12’s I think with a supercharger will be a beast!! Greetings!! ✌🏻
You ever drive an ep3? They're fun dude. I have 5th, 7th and 8th gen si. I originally got into one because I wanted an si but on a budget and ended up loving it!
awesome collection. I just got a 7th gen 5 speed & 9th gen si. I was thinking of trying out an S2k at some point or possibly an Acura type S. Love the honda/acura world cause our options on manual transmissions.
@@dbzownz12345 my roommate has 2 rsx’s unfortunately she doesn’t drive stick so they are both auto base but what I can say after having the 8th gen as a daily for a little bit is that I enjoy the seating position and the more shallow dash if the rsx. Might be a chance of a type s in the future 👌
@@ProjectRad obviously the one drawback is the 160hp and sad vtec. Being in a band that requires me to haul big speaker cabs and rack units on occasion, having that hatch space is really nice. If you ever find yourself near Buffalo NY Reach out, you could take her for a spin!
I love my 2014 SI. The only thing that I would change would be to have the real physical buttons for the volume and all that because they actually don’t have that in the 2014. It’s distracting when you can’t feel a physical button and you’re feeling around to make sure you hit the right part of a touchscreen. I just bought it and it’s 10 years old obviously now and it is a magnificent car. So much fun to drive🎉🎉🎉.
Just got rid of my 2006 R18 5-speed sedan and picked up a 2006 FG2 Si 5-speed feels like rubber compared to the Si's 6-speed... The extra 10 ft/lbs of torque is very noticeable. Could be gearing as well, but no comparison. Love my Si 😊 Biggest difference is 9th gen doesn't have real Vtech, intake valves only... 32:34
@@ProjectRad Thx brother. I'm in Ontario Canada but it's a British Columbia car (just North of you) so bonus it's rust free, no accidents (all VIN matching on each panel,) and undercoated. Fully stock. Clean Carfax. Found a gem. 188,000km/114k $9000 CAD I lucked out 👍
Wish I could say the same, but the wingless trunk just kills it for me. I'm coming up from a 7th gen 5 speed & always had a spoiler so not having one throws me off. Made my choice easy with getting a 15' coupe. Kudos to you for loving it though as there's more 12,13's out there for you to use for purchase/parts.
Nice to see your Channel getting attention, bro 👍 By the way, comparing the 8th gen Si to lower trims (DX, LX, EX,) the audio/speakers are much more premium for the Si trim, which added a subwoofer, better ambient bass, surround sound, etc. I recently upgraded to the FA5 after an LX and its just better in every way except gas 😂
@@TGerhardt the base 06 5-speed Civic coupe with the stick can hit 60 in 7.7 with it's SOHC 1.8 ... the SI with dohc 2.0 hits 60 in 6.7 seconds it has 11 more pound-feet of torque and 57 more horsepower which equates to just a little over a second quicker to 60 stock which in my opinion is why they made the 2009 r18 models a lot slower after the facelift a little over a second and a half slower is the same 2009 as a 2006 base model r18 after they gave the Civic the facelift which made it uglier and made it slower
@@classybluev1139 oh, didn't know that. I still love the 2009 Si, what's nice is that 8,000 rpm with DOHC and it being a 6 speed. It doesn't have to be fast for me, it's the joy you get out of driving it
As a now 14 year owner of 8th Fa5 si, I test drove the 9th in2013 and thought it felt like a dull appliance from the softer suspension tune, boring 2.4, completely numb over assisted steering feel, numb clutch, and even the throttle pedal seemed less intuitive. My but dyno would swear it was lacking hp up top compared to my 8th with just intake. I loved the looks of the 9th going into the test drive but got out extremely disappointed. 2 completely different things. I felt like I was returning to a Porche. Im sure camber castor mods may have helped restore that nimble 8th feeling to the 9th
I had an 07 FA5 for a couple of years and I loved it while I had it, I will say the shifter was SUPER notchy and the syncros were not the best. I just recently got a 2015 FB6 and it is such a different feel, clutch is crazy smooth (almost so smooth that it doesnt feel sporty), and the Vtec is so quiet compared to the 8th gen.
@@sandyperez8020 Definitely does, I own a 2015 FB6 SI and it has Vtec on the intake side. Older models have Vtec on the intake and exhaust side. You are thinking of the 10 gen civic that went to turbocharged motors.
I traded my 1500 for the 8th gen civic. This video is so helpful, I’ve been googling what gen mine is 07 but kept finding different tail lights in the 8th gen? Super confusing to me
@@cliftonsargent1572 if you have a 2006-2011 Honda civic it’s an 8th gen. If you have a civic si sedan it’s called an FA5 if you have the coupe civic si it’s called an FG2. Chassis code. For the tail lights you’re either looking at the Japanese type r taillights that require a different trunk. Or just seeing the base model taillights versus the si or coupe/ sedan
Thanks man appreciate it! I'll always recommend bc racing like I have on my 8th gen. They're good quality and ride for a steeper price but not crazy crazy. You get what you pay for with car parts. And suspension is something very important.
I used to have an 8th gen sedan 2010 with flashpro tuned, CAI, and header, straight pipe and now I own a 2014 9th gen with flash pro tuned, full 3” exhaust and CAI and I prefer the 9th gen I moved to Ohio and even here that there’s a bunch of country guys I receive a lot of looks and comments like I like your car or your car looks sick but my car is not stock on the outside either it have coilovers and stance wheels setup but even stock I think looks better than the 8th gen and on the interior is where it shines with those red seats etc… anyways my favorite still the Rsx is too sexy
my opinion might be biased because i just got a 8th Gen (i've been wanting a manual car for a while but finally found an Si with not bad miles for a decent price) but that's what i prefer more. the 9th gen seems a lot more stiff when it comes to actual driving and mods, having that option to mod in the future seems nice, to me anyway
@@douglasbussard3459 yeah mines has a full exhaust, down pipe and stock headers. It’s not tuned yet. Idk why it hits super early but I’ve never complained !!
i owned a 14 si and in cali u needa smog so i gotta keep it carb but i got test pipe, cai intake, and exhaust. thats basically all i got for the car. my buddy with the 8th gen got exhaust and intake. we raced and i pulled him on 2nd gear and keep rolling ahead but i did notice the top end on the 8th because he was slowly creeping up behind on 3rd to 4th. but i still took the dub. Moral of the story.... better driver will determine which one wins.
I've driven both and currently own a 9th gen with a slight tune. It is a great all arounder, but if you want pure ras driving the 8th gen is for sure the way to go (if you can find one)
I had both gens what i can say personally i love the vtec crossover on the 8th gen but tq wise 9th gen for sure n body wise 9th gen for sure but the 8th gen body was definitely satisfying even tho you can get a tsx/accord bottom end but same with 9th gen can use the z7 block with z3 head of course needs modification to work but isnt much but 9th gen coupe facelift all the way it definitely hits different
Have a chance to buy a really nice 08 si with low miles all stock one owner. Do you think the transmission is that bad that you wouldn’t buy one? I can live with the looks of the 08. But I don’t want to buy it if the transmission is problems. Any insight would be great thanks
I would take her for a spin or let the guy do it and make sure he or you shift it at high rpm from 2nd to 3rd and if it doesn’t grind I’d say you’ll be ok for a while. Just change your transmission fluid as soon as you can! And have some cash set aside just in case that trans goes. But for super low miles and all stock you should be ok.
@@ProjectRad I really appreciate the feedback thanks. I found a thread on Reddit of maybe ten years years ago were someone was asking basically the same question I asked and supposedly a Honda tech who also owned a 08 si claimed that the issue only affected the first like 1800 cars in 08. So he showed like vin xxx0001- vin xxx1890 or something and said if your last for numbers where anything past this you have an updated 08 and you shouldn’t have the issue. The one I’m looking at is like xxx3840 or something so according to the tech I’m fine. I don’t know if any of this is true it’s just something I found last night. Sweet videos tho!
@@ProjectRad also what fluid or also additive would you use when I change the fluid? The tech said he just uses the correct Honda brand where others had all these different ideas of what to use lol
@@areject17 oh that sounds like a good deal! I’d say you’re ok if you test drive it and see how it is! And for extra protection you could always get the hybrid racing clutch master cylinder they made and braided lines apparently it works well!
Traded my 11 fa5 with 215k miles for a 15 fb6 with 131k miles first off the 8th never gave me one single problem in the 3 years I had it other than the paint issues I have no complaints the 9th gen is a overall better car especially for daily and the tech you get 14/15 I do miss the crossover on the k20z3 and higher redline but to each they own everyone has they opinion
this aint no subaru!!! ive never heard of any SI models having headgasket issues. B and K series are rock solid motors. no other company can even compete with honda's NA 4 cyl motors.
I also was concerned I just pick up a 9th gen si coupe coming up from a 7th gen civic. I was like checking everything and super paranoid after my years of living in the 7th gen world.
Someone on reddit told me the stock wHP for an 8th gen was around 120. But you said 180. I thought the stock regular HP was 180ish. I have an 08 coupe Si but my paint is trash, im close to 165k miles on it. For someone like me who may never find time and or money to mod the 08 and get it painted do you think I’d enjoy selling it and getting a ‘13 sedan? 97k miles.
120 is way to low I may have said to high but it's probably around 170ish to wheel. At crank it's 197hp and with the 10-15% drive train loss. Definitely not the 120. It's definitely up to you and want you want. If you like the Vtec and high strung nature of the 8th keep it. But if you want torque go 9th.
the premium sound is lots better than the stock in the DX value package - the DX had standard stereo, no power locks, no center armrest, no power mirrors - basic basic basic
For having owned both, the 8th gen is a better drivers car, feels lighter, less tech and a bit more nimble. The 9th gen is great too because its still very analog while having just enough modern tech to add convenience. Id buy both again in a heartbeat, 8th gen for modifying and having fun, 9th gen for a daily that's more exciting to drive.
Don't feel bad. I also got a 15' coupe. It feels personal & sometimes we need that in todays world. Too many people in your shit that all you need is some time for yourself. Bring a coupe & people would rather not hop in & out constantly. Besides I got my coupe for the "lady", not to become an uber drive. I'll buy a cheap 8th gen or fit if that was my goal.
Wish i can find a clean 8th gen si. Near impossible, especially in NY. almost all are rusted, beat up and shat on by ricers putting shit parts on it. Its real sad. I cant find anything unmolested. I'm considering getting a 9th gen but Ive wanted an 8th gen for so long now I don't wanna give up on it but at the same time its discouraging seeing all the beat up ones
Dang man sorry you're having such a hard time but sadly most states on the coast region are like that. It's same over here in west coast. If you go inward abit you'll find some good ones but it's tough. I'd say if you've wanted a 8th gen this whole time I wouldn't go with the 9th gen as a compromise. It's just probably not what you're looking for since you've been wanting with the 8th. So hang in there. I wish you luck!
8th generation is the standard by it which all civics measure themselves... Only one of them won motor trend car of the Year only one of them went North American car of the Year only one of them has an 8500 fuel cut off
no
I think you meant the EK9 Type-R.
There is no category the B series is better than the k20. I say this as the owner two b series cars. The k20 is the best na inline four ever.
What does 8500 fuel cut off mean? I’m new to civics I have the 07 I believe the 8th gen
Nope, it is the 6th gen as the Si measuring stick.
You described the 9th gen perfectly imo. I want a new car, going for an SI. But I need it to be a comfy, daily as well. 9th gen has the feel along with the upgrade interior and tech.
Absolutely it does! If you looking for a daily with simple mods, you can’t go wrong with the 9th gen.
@@ProjectRad Along with the "simple mods". I don't care to spend an enormous amount on my car. Just want it to be nice, so spending a good bit rather than a ton. I think the 9th is the perfect point.
Got a 2013 si sedan in march and like the car. Had a 02 Acura rsx in the past. And yeah my si is bone stock lol for now. Awesome Daly car for sure.
@@Strive117 I have an 02 rsx right now!😅
I agree just fyi 9th gen has no temp gauge so you may want to add one at some point
2007 si is the reason I got a 2013 si. It was unfortunately not the same BUT I still loved it and still felt like the wheels were trying to escape the rest of the car when rippin thru the gears. Good day or bad day at work that car put a smile on my face going home
Can you get into more detail why you got the 9th gen afterwards? Seems like you liked the first one more? I am currently deciding between the two.
K20 is better engine. If you go 9th gen you can do a head swap if your pockets are deep enough. It comes down to the k20 having true v tech
I have a 9th gen and never driven a 8th and I perfectly happy with it. I wouldn't sell it for a 8th gen but I can see why people think the 8th is better
I definitely prefer the 8th gen due to the more raw feel. I'm just naturally more predisposed to like light and raw. Probably why I own a GK5 Fit
I’m the exact same way! Grew up driving race karts. So the more similar my cars are to raw Motorsports feel, the more I like them!
i learned to drive in an 8th gen and i wanna buy one it’s so much fun
i think the 8th gen si is only 50ish lbs lighter. essentially the same weight
@@bananza9860 The feel as well.
I love that the commenters can all agree both cars have a place in the hearts of honda lovers. Both cars have pros and cons but at the end of the day the cars are brothers with pretty good performance
I agree! Got a pretty smart and passionate fanbase here!!
Nothing beats the 8th gen k20z3 its there where the true vtec roar its function with both intake n exhaust cam! Period!
Such a cool conversation and exactly the content that was needed, esp re: heads/blocks/headers
Glad I could help!
Came for the comparison, stayed for the cat 11/10
Im looking at getting a civic and this vid popped up, good timing!
Glad to help out!
9th gen looks perfect to me.
Agreed only thing I don't like about 9th gen is no temp gauge
Yeah the 9th Gen civics really looked as good as the 9th Gen Accords even the coupes in this Gen. And they've done it again with the FL5 perfect
Looking at 8-10th gen SIs and noticed you live in the same state. Checked out some videos and love the content! Keep it up
This is a great comparison, I drove several 9th gens before I bought my 2011 8th gen. The 9th gen is nice and looks pretty good, but it feels like it has no soul, the 8th gen is the most exciting NA engine I have ever driven. Launching it feels like everything happens so fast making it feel much faster than what it is.
Absolutely agree the 8th gen has so much going on all the time. Dopamine release at all times.
9th is aging nicely while 8th starting to look like it's from 1990. The rear is the nicest design but the front still look ghetto. If you drive the 9th gen into a mall parking lot you would be less ghetto than a boxy 1990 car 8th gen.
@Rumble Bumble the 9th gen looks good, maybe better. It's about the way it drives for me, and I think the 8th gen looks very good as well.
@@Ra47588th gen sedans are looking dated but the 2010/2011 fg2 with the HFP bodykit and wheels will be a the sought after ones that age well.
No soul??? Really??????
the kitten made this video 20x better. great video all around!
The kitten says thanks 😂
Awesome video bro, the cat needs more screen time lol. I used to own a r18 8th gen. then bought the fa5. I’m super hyped with the performance, but I kinda miss the r18 fuel efficiency tho lol 😂
I bought a 9th gen sedan about a year ago, and I’ve recently started regretting it. I wish I had seen this video beforehand! 😂 The 8th gen suits me more. I love high revving Hondas and I’m pretty low maintenance, meaning I don’t really need all the commodities that the 9th gen interior comes with. Great video man
Whats interesting about the 9th gen is the prototype coupe had the same HDMI exhaust the 10th gen has and the 11th gen is back to bland. Honda purposely did what they did in the past to get us into turbo hence the K24 responding better with boost. Even the 10th gen tail lights resemble the 9th gen. Its interesting how Honda fixes something and comes back with it again that is much more improved.
Very interesting take!
I bought a 9th gen FB6 , and I also just purchased a FA5 as well. Love both cars but I'm a lil biased to the 9th due to getting 1st and having longer. But there is a noticeable difference in handling and the PowerBand. K24 is perfect for daily driving, k20 is a great weekend car, rev happy, track kind of car
Absolutely agree!
My daily is an 8th gen si black , I already got the whole front end repainted and the rear repainted. I’m about to finish the doors next summer. Pretty much I brought the car back to life , engine swap will be tsx k24 which is also in route. I would have had it done sooner but I have a GTR and an f80m3 that I’m doing at the same time 😂. But now the 8th gen si gets my attention.
I need my front end done so bad!!
I really love my 2012 Si. Almost 500k km and still going strong.
First engine?
@@Warun16 yes! Will have to replace the chain soon i guess..
8th generation for sure 👍
Bro got a Canadian hat, and an American flag hanging off his house. I love it.
😂 One if my favorite INDYCAR drivers is the hat. James Hinchcliffe
First off. 18 seconds in and I wanna say. Love the matching chairs hahahahha.
Thanks man😂😂
Got my 2010 Mazda RX-8 Gran Touring wrecked 2 years ago and I ended up getting a 2015 Honda Civic Si Coupe...I used to hate on FWD cars but the Si changed my mind...it handles and drives great, there is understeer since its front wheel drive, but not a lot and suprised how great suspension is tuned stock
I totally agree. Extremely fun and just raw feeling cars with good stock suspension honesty. But really come alive with aftermarket!
It's hard to tell, based on your demonstration, considering your driving habits and what grade the road is at... but it sounds like the 9th gen struggles to get up to 7k RPM. The vtec is there, but it's not pushing it like it does with the 8th gen. I find it fun driving the 8th gen up hills with some bends. The LSD paired with 3rd gear at 4.5k-7.5k feels right to me. Great video.
I absolutely love the 2010 si coupe that I'm still rolling in here in 2024. Very reliable, and a blast to drive. The clear coat is peeling, as you said, but I call that the custom paint option "galaxy" and that includes the zip ties on the front bumper. I want to keep this car forever.
Great video bro ! I always felt like in simpler terms the 8th gen is more racecar and the si for younger people and the 9th gen si is the si for grown ups lol
😂 exactly
They're basically the same exact car with a different engine homie and upgraded interior it took everything about the 8th gen and dolled it down a notch that's why they call it gen 8.5
Picking up a mint 50k mile 9th gen sedan tomorrow. Hard to find a all stock low mile one let alone a 8th gen like that even more. I decided on the 9th gen cause I want something more quiet comfy and refined and probably safer. Definitely not doing coil overs. Going to leave it stock and clean.
I wish you luck! It’s going to be great!
I had a 2014 Si coupe , but went back to a 2009 Si sedan , your comparison is very accurate, I loved the interior and tech on the 2014 Si including the torque and sound of the k24z7 , BUT the 8th gen Si is truly the last real Si , the seats definitely do hug you more around corners ! It does feel lighter compared to the 9th gen , the 9th gen has a lot more body roll around corners vs then 8th gen feels more planted , and there is a WORLD of modifications including interior !!!! You can swap out your steering wheel , dash , speedometer, seats , door inserts, front end / rear end with the jdm CTR FD2 parts !!! K24a2 and JDM K20A are direct swaps as well , and even though less torque, the TRUE VTEC is the whole point of the Si ! It’s an addicting sound and feeling ! Also the 8th gen looks wider than the 9th gen which is a plus for me ! 8th gen for the win !!!!
talk more about k24a2 and jdm k24a! keep up the vids bro they’re 🔥🔥
Appreciate it man!! I probably will make a video more in depth about them since my k20z3 is burning more oil then I would like. So a swap is in this channels future!
I think you got the best 9th gen. I like the black seats. I do like to spoiler on my 2012 a bit more but the exterior of that 13 is clean especially the black and carbon interior
I really enjoyed this video man, great comparison.
I appreciate it!!
Excellent video!
Great comparison for two outstanding vehicles.
I love them both, but , I’ll stick with my 8th gen.
Unique and much more fun to drive!
Thank you! Agreed! 😁
That’s because you don’t own a 9th gen with the k20z3 head that’s on another level believe me and on top of that add the nicer interior and exterior of the 9th gen plus the new tech you can’t beat it not even the newer civic’s
@@cl587so did you swap the z3 head straight onto your k24? i own a 9th gen
@@cl587 what does the k20 head do? More power? How much more?
when I worked for Honda we received the 9th gen Civic
I drove it and compare to the 8th gen it felt soft like the chassis is bending at a corner at low speed
honestly they should have released the prototype version
will I buy a 9th gen Civic? not really
I will buy the ILX instead for the extra
nice video with your commentator!
on paper the 9th looks "faster" than the 8th.
then the race happens and you realize numbers on paper dont always equate to driving experience.
Exactly! It’s pretty cool!
Do tell ...who makes your review mirror in the 9th gen ?
I really like the 13-15’s but the 2012 even the sedan are little lighter than the coupe 8th gen,I have both but sold the 8th gen I do prefer the 9th gen in all the aspects true most of the things he mentioned but honestly the 12’s is by far my favorite no chrome no nothing like that simple and lighter miss the 8th gen but again both are great probably by personal preference but still way better 12’s I think with a supercharger will be a beast!! Greetings!! ✌🏻
I have a ‘12 SI and am in love! Bought it this year
Same
Same. An absolute joy of a car
You ever drive an ep3? They're fun dude. I have 5th, 7th and 8th gen si. I originally got into one because I wanted an si but on a budget and ended up loving it!
I haven’t. But I’ve really wanted to try one out but sadly no one has given me the opportunity yet.
My 1st ep3 is what made me into a Honda freak it’s simple and fun
awesome collection. I just got a 7th gen 5 speed & 9th gen si. I was thinking of trying out an S2k at some point or possibly an Acura type S. Love the honda/acura world cause our options on manual transmissions.
@@dbzownz12345 my roommate has 2 rsx’s unfortunately she doesn’t drive stick so they are both auto base but what I can say after having the 8th gen as a daily for a little bit is that I enjoy the seating position and the more shallow dash if the rsx. Might be a chance of a type s in the future 👌
@@ProjectRad obviously the one drawback is the 160hp and sad vtec. Being in a band that requires me to haul big speaker cabs and rack units on occasion, having that hatch space is really nice. If you ever find yourself near Buffalo NY Reach out, you could take her for a spin!
I love my 2014 SI. The only thing that I would change would be to have the real physical buttons for the volume and all that because they actually don’t have that in the 2014. It’s distracting when you can’t feel a physical button and you’re feeling around to make sure you hit the right part of a touchscreen. I just bought it and it’s 10 years old obviously now and it is a magnificent car. So much fun to drive🎉🎉🎉.
8 gen was the rreal sporty sudspension and high revving engine
Just got rid of my 2006 R18 5-speed sedan and picked up a 2006 FG2 Si
5-speed feels like rubber compared to the Si's 6-speed...
The extra 10 ft/lbs of torque is very noticeable. Could be gearing as well, but no comparison.
Love my Si 😊
Biggest difference is 9th gen doesn't have real Vtech, intake valves only... 32:34
Congratulations man!! Have a great time!!
@@ProjectRad Thx brother.
I'm in Ontario Canada but it's a British Columbia car (just North of you) so bonus it's rust free, no accidents (all VIN matching on each panel,) and undercoated.
Fully stock.
Clean Carfax.
Found a gem.
188,000km/114k
$9000 CAD
I lucked out 👍
Guess I'm the odd guy but I have the 2012 si I prefer it to the facelift, only thing I've done to it, I did a k20 head swap is a fun daily.
Same i have a 2012 si also prefer it just because not many people have it and its also 300 pounds lighter stock
I have 2013 fb6. I really like the 2012 sedan front. Looking for one to swap on my fb6.
Wish I could say the same, but the wingless trunk just kills it for me. I'm coming up from a 7th gen 5 speed & always had a spoiler so not having one throws me off. Made my choice easy with getting a 15' coupe. Kudos to you for loving it though as there's more 12,13's out there for you to use for purchase/parts.
Nice to see your Channel getting attention, bro 👍 By the way, comparing the 8th gen Si to lower trims (DX, LX, EX,) the audio/speakers are much more premium for the Si trim, which added a subwoofer, better ambient bass, surround sound, etc. I recently upgraded to the FA5 after an LX and its just better in every way except gas 😂
That’s awesome! I do miss gas mileage 😭😂
But it's a hundred percent more fun than the base trims, and that makes it worth it
@@TGerhardt the base 06 5-speed Civic coupe with the stick can hit 60 in 7.7 with it's SOHC 1.8 ... the SI with dohc 2.0 hits 60 in 6.7 seconds it has 11 more pound-feet of torque and 57 more horsepower which equates to just a little over a second quicker to 60 stock which in my opinion is why they made the 2009 r18 models a lot slower after the facelift a little over a second and a half slower is the same 2009 as a 2006 base model r18 after they gave the Civic the facelift which made it uglier and made it slower
@@classybluev1139 oh, didn't know that. I still love the 2009 Si, what's nice is that 8,000 rpm with DOHC and it being a 6 speed. It doesn't have to be fast for me, it's the joy you get out of driving it
@@TGerhardt fuel don't cut off till 8300/8500
im in Oregon too, been juggling whether to buy the 8th or 9th..
Which one did you get?
As a now 14 year owner of 8th Fa5 si, I test drove the 9th in2013 and thought it felt like a dull appliance from the softer suspension tune, boring 2.4, completely numb over assisted steering feel, numb clutch, and even the throttle pedal seemed less intuitive. My but dyno would swear it was lacking hp up top compared to my 8th with just intake. I loved the looks of the 9th going into the test drive but got out extremely disappointed. 2 completely different things. I felt like I was returning to a Porche. Im sure camber castor mods may have helped restore that nimble 8th feeling to the 9th
Just sad Scarlett lost. I know why, but still. Great video. Love both these cars. Great input on both. ❤
I appreciate it!
9th gen does look more modern but 8th gen still looks great and feels more old school feeling idk hard to exlain
I had an 07 FA5 for a couple of years and I loved it while I had it, I will say the shifter was SUPER notchy and the syncros were not the best. I just recently got a 2015 FB6 and it is such a different feel, clutch is crazy smooth (almost so smooth that it doesnt feel sporty), and the Vtec is so quiet compared to the 8th gen.
9th gen doesn’t have vtec buddy
@@sandyperez8020 Definitely does, I own a 2015 FB6 SI and it has Vtec on the intake side. Older models have Vtec on the intake and exhaust side. You are thinking of the 10 gen civic that went to turbocharged motors.
@@phantom6799older civic 8th gen?
I traded my 1500 for the 8th gen civic. This video is so helpful, I’ve been googling what gen mine is 07 but kept finding different tail lights in the 8th gen? Super confusing to me
@@cliftonsargent1572 if you have a 2006-2011 Honda civic it’s an 8th gen. If you have a civic si sedan it’s called an FA5 if you have the coupe civic si it’s called an FG2. Chassis code. For the tail lights you’re either looking at the Japanese type r taillights that require a different trunk. Or just seeing the base model taillights versus the si or coupe/ sedan
@@nicksknives2852 good god I’m screen shooting this. I would of never understood this
@@nicksknives2852 so I have a civic Si that’s a sedan so it’s a FA5
Great content bro! Just got my 2015 with 11k miles. What coilover kit do you recommend? Thank you I subbed ❤
Thanks man appreciate it! I'll always recommend bc racing like I have on my 8th gen. They're good quality and ride for a steeper price but not crazy crazy. You get what you pay for with car parts. And suspension is something very important.
@@ProjectRad thanks I always hear good things about those to
@@ProjectRad which series? Thanks
@@mrslapside any is good I went br
@@ProjectRad 🙏 thank you
Do you have to tune it to run the rbc on the k24? Which throttle body?
@@vicburt6001 I absolutely would tune it! I believe he used the stock throttle body. But I don't remember
I used to have an 8th gen sedan 2010 with flashpro tuned, CAI, and header, straight pipe and now I own a 2014 9th gen with flash pro tuned, full 3” exhaust and CAI and I prefer the 9th gen I moved to Ohio and even here that there’s a bunch of country guys I receive a lot of looks and comments like I like your car or your car looks sick but my car is not stock on the outside either it have coilovers and stance wheels setup but even stock I think looks better than the 8th gen and on the interior is where it shines with those red seats etc… anyways my favorite still the Rsx is too sexy
A lot of knowledge in this video new sub here,great content
Orange 9th gen owner here,love it
Currently looking into a 8th gen for my first car any issues I should keep a eye out for
I actually have a complete buyers guide to buying a 8th gen si on my channel that should tell you all you need to know!!
@@ProjectRad k thx I check it out
my opinion might be biased because i just got a 8th Gen (i've been wanting a manual car for a while but finally found an Si with not bad miles for a decent price) but that's what i prefer more. the 9th gen seems a lot more stiff when it comes to actual driving and mods, having that option to mod in the future seems nice, to me anyway
I had a 2014 si. Fun car and good daily. I now drive 2018 si. Much better in all departments.
Glad you like it! I would like more time with the 10th gen
How does an Rsx type S stack against the 8th gen?
@@s2rtracing792 good question! It's insanely close! They both have pros and cons. But a big pro to the type s is the better oil pump!
Got an 8th gen as a track car. Even stock it’s great.
My 2007 Vtec goes off at 4700 RPM and I’ve only got an intake and a K-Tuned muffler.
5600
@@douglasbussard3459 mines doesn’t go off at 5600. It goes off at 4700.
My stock 08 goes off at 5600
@@douglasbussard3459 yeah mines has a full exhaust, down pipe and stock headers. It’s not tuned yet. Idk why it hits super early but I’ve never complained !!
Great video man
Appreciate it!
Only thing the 8th came out in a type r version wich makes it nicer when putting some aftermarket parts
i owned a 14 si and in cali u needa smog so i gotta keep it carb but i got test pipe, cai intake, and exhaust. thats basically all i got for the car. my buddy with the 8th gen got exhaust and intake. we raced and i pulled him on 2nd gear and keep rolling ahead but i did notice the top end on the 8th because he was slowly creeping up behind on 3rd to 4th. but i still took the dub. Moral of the story.... better driver will determine which one wins.
What exhaust you running and are you on a e tune? I’m in cali too and gotta tune if I wanna run not like shit lol
@@nicolasm8615did you upgrade yours I’m in Cali as well. I wanna do Honda flash with cold air
@@mrslapside yea you’re gonna need flash for cai
@@nicolasm8615 cal will I pass smog if reflash back to stock for it? Thanks
@@mrslapside yes as long as you reflash the computer back to stock you’ll be find
I've driven both and currently own a 9th gen with a slight tune. It is a great all arounder, but if you want pure ras driving the 8th gen is for sure the way to go (if you can find one)
I like this guy. Seems very genuine
I had both gens what i can say personally i love the vtec crossover on the 8th gen but tq wise 9th gen for sure n body wise 9th gen for sure but the 8th gen body was definitely satisfying even tho you can get a tsx/accord bottom end but same with 9th gen can use the z7 block with z3 head of course needs modification to work but isnt much but 9th gen coupe facelift all the way it definitely hits different
2015 9th gen owner its dope :)
Can you swap one of the heads to make it "true vtech"?
@@tyleradams6990 I do believe so
Have a chance to buy a really nice 08 si with low miles all stock one owner. Do you think the transmission is that bad that you wouldn’t buy one? I can live with the looks of the 08. But I don’t want to buy it if the transmission is problems. Any insight would be great thanks
And i REALLY enjoyed the video, thank you soo much!
I would take her for a spin or let the guy do it and make sure he or you shift it at high rpm from 2nd to 3rd and if it doesn’t grind I’d say you’ll be ok for a while. Just change your transmission fluid as soon as you can! And have some cash set aside just in case that trans goes. But for super low miles and all stock you should be ok.
@@ProjectRad I really appreciate the feedback thanks. I found a thread on Reddit of maybe ten years years ago were someone was asking basically the same question I asked and supposedly a Honda tech who also owned a 08 si claimed that the issue only affected the first like 1800 cars in 08. So he showed like vin xxx0001- vin xxx1890 or something and said if your last for numbers where anything past this you have an updated 08 and you shouldn’t have the issue. The one I’m looking at is like xxx3840 or something so according to the tech I’m fine. I don’t know if any of this is true it’s just something I found last night. Sweet videos tho!
@@ProjectRad also what fluid or also additive would you use when I change the fluid? The tech said he just uses the correct Honda brand where others had all these different ideas of what to use lol
@@areject17 oh that sounds like a good deal! I’d say you’re ok if you test drive it and see how it is! And for extra protection you could always get the hybrid racing clutch master cylinder they made and braided lines apparently it works well!
Traded my 11 fa5 with 215k miles for a 15 fb6 with 131k miles first off the 8th never gave me one single problem in the 3 years I had it other than the paint issues I have no complaints the 9th gen is a overall better car especially for daily and the tech you get 14/15 I do miss the crossover on the k20z3 and higher redline but to each they own everyone has they opinion
Any head gasket issues with 9th gen? Also how is the seat comfort for long trips in the eighth GEN? Thanks
No head gasket issues. And it’s perfect!
this aint no subaru!!!
ive never heard of any SI models having headgasket issues. B and K series are rock solid motors. no other company can even compete with honda's NA 4 cyl motors.
I also was concerned I just pick up a 9th gen si coupe coming up from a 7th gen civic. I was like checking everything and super paranoid after my years of living in the 7th gen world.
@@LeeVai666 no they can't
4piston makes a race head for the z7 now that let's you run k20 cams
I just saw this right after filming and editing this video! And they have z7 drop in cams for preorder right now. But still the options aren’t high.
Someone on reddit told me the stock wHP for an 8th gen was around 120. But you said 180. I thought the stock regular HP was 180ish. I have an 08 coupe Si but my paint is trash, im close to 165k miles on it. For someone like me who may never find time and or money to mod the 08 and get it painted do you think I’d enjoy selling it and getting a ‘13 sedan? 97k miles.
120 is way to low I may have said to high but it's probably around 170ish to wheel. At crank it's 197hp and with the 10-15% drive train loss. Definitely not the 120. It's definitely up to you and want you want. If you like the Vtec and high strung nature of the 8th keep it. But if you want torque go 9th.
I have a 9th gen si I fuck with it heavy but would I really have to engine swap it if I’d like to see at least 800+ to 1k horsepower????
the premium sound is lots better than the stock in the DX value package - the DX had standard stereo, no power locks, no center armrest, no power mirrors - basic basic basic
That’s a rip! Got brand new speakers now!
The honda civic 2015 is on whole different level, intem of luxury and driving quality and interior,
2015 is another level
KITTY IS SOO CUTEEEE
Personally I own a 9th gen wouldn’t trade it for a 8th gen I just think it looks better
Very cool man! Hope you continue to enjoy it!
For having owned both, the 8th gen is a better drivers car, feels lighter, less tech and a bit more nimble. The 9th gen is great too because its still very analog while having just enough modern tech to add convenience. Id buy both again in a heartbeat, 8th gen for modifying and having fun, 9th gen for a daily that's more exciting to drive.
I have owned both still have my Fb6 miss my Fa5
Grass is always greener
What’s the name of those headlights on the 9th gen?
Honestly don't know. Sorry man
That cat is so cute
8th gen sedans all day
The 9th gen refresh is a much more handsome car IMO. I own an 8h gen Si sedan.
I have the 9th gen 2013 Si...wish I went with sedan. Best looking gen
Pretty good looking car for sure!
Don't feel bad. I also got a 15' coupe. It feels personal & sometimes we need that in todays world. Too many people in your shit that all you need is some time for yourself. Bring a coupe & people would rather not hop in & out constantly. Besides I got my coupe for the "lady", not to become an uber drive. I'll buy a cheap 8th gen or fit if that was my goal.
@@dbzownz12345 Engines never die
8th gen civic si= vtec just kicked in yo!
@@outdooradventures1361 😂😂
Do you have a video on painting the grill of the 8th gen black?
Once that kitten popped up I was locked in
Always the helper 😂
The 9th gen motor is specifically made for touge running
I can agree to this!
The eighth generation was the last fun raw high revving Honda Civic
Isntthat an easy fix with a k20 head swap onto the k24 9th gen ?
@@ZZ-ed6wp it's a fix yes but it sure as hell ain't an easy one unless you're a mechanic and I'm sure you'd have to switch out something else
W civic compare , love u homie
Thanks bud!
There wasn’t CarPlay till the 10th gen sir.
k24z7 with k20 head makes 240 ish on pump...so
Rear sway bar and bigger end links makes these cars rotate way… easier
I bet it does!!
Both of them are solid cars!
Don’t think a 2015 came with CarPlay but it’s conflicting for sure
The SI coupe fits the girls perfectly fine, but the Sedan is AOK for guys.
I subscribed because of the kitten.
Cool cars as well.
The kitten appreciates it😂😂
Wish i can find a clean 8th gen si. Near impossible, especially in NY. almost all are rusted, beat up and shat on by ricers putting shit parts on it. Its real sad. I cant find anything unmolested. I'm considering getting a 9th gen but Ive wanted an 8th gen for so long now I don't wanna give up on it but at the same time its discouraging seeing all the beat up ones
Dang man sorry you're having such a hard time but sadly most states on the coast region are like that. It's same over here in west coast. If you go inward abit you'll find some good ones but it's tough. I'd say if you've wanted a 8th gen this whole time I wouldn't go with the 9th gen as a compromise. It's just probably not what you're looking for since you've been wanting with the 8th. So hang in there. I wish you luck!
Putting an android headunit in the 8th makes it feel much more modern. I personally have a 7 inch double din
Absolutely! I really do want one for sure! I want to be able to put Hondata on it so I can see what’s going on with my car at all times.
9th gen is smaller than 8th gen?
Not that I know of. If it is it’s barely noticeable.
@@ProjectRad yup but based on dimensions 9th gen narrower and shorter than 8th
Cough DA cough 😂😂😂 nice video dude