Holy crap! I was scrolling through vids and saw my actual car in your thumbnail haha. It's the 93 hatch with the red seats. Here is some info on the car if anyone cares: 93 Civic CX with a b16a2 swap out of the 2000 Si. The thumbnail photo was taken at Barber Motorsports Park in front of the car museum. It had the old red Tenzo R (RECARO Replica) seats but was switched out with some Buddy Club fixed backs shortly after. Car had basic bolt-ons and a Spoon N1 exhaust. Koni adjustable struts with Hypercoil springs, Integra Type R RSB, Si Disk brake upgrade, Rota GT3 wheels running Hoosier A6 Slicks, Kirk Racing cage and gutted rear cabin interior. That was during the JDM trend so I had quite a few things imported from JPN (Vision Technica corner lights, JDM tails, Spoon radiator hoses, Spoon N1, JDM fogs I never installed and a bunch of other stuff I can't remember right off hand). It competed in SCCA from 2007-2014 where I finally won the SMF championship that final year. I still own the car but it has not been driven since 2015 and just been tucked away in the back of my shop. Just starting to restore it but in no rush. Here is a link to an old video of it on my other channel: th-cam.com/video/nE3oMNn9cL8/w-d-xo.html Enjoyed the video btw! My favorite Si was the 99-00 though I never owned one. I honestly never paid much attention to Civics past 2000. The years after went to a McPherson strut setup and ditched the fantastic double wishbone suspension of the 88-00s. Not sure if that means anything to the stance crowd but it was a deathblow to us racers.
Best way to sum up the difference between the 8th Gen Si and the 9th gen... 8th Gen: "VTEC just kicked in Yo!!!" 9th Gen: "Yo! Did VTEC just kick in??"
9th has ivtec and only kicks in above 5000 rpm which is a perfectly spaced powerband ive drove all of them and 9th is the best imo thanks to the CVT you can natural asperate tune them with a good bottom and top block mix from 9th and 8th gens and have the best of both worlds getting a red line of 8000 rpm and maintaining cvt and crazy like beginning to end horsepower around 260
My Civic Si is a 2013 9th gen, and I love it. The car drives and handles really well. The interior is great. It has the biggest engine, and it's the last NA car. I plan on keeping it for many years down the road.
@pashahillyard8763 I wish I did, but I totaled it about 3 years ago. I had just finished paying it off, then I crashed it into a ditch. I still miss it every day. Please drive safe out there.
I had a Kraftworks supercharged 2010 si coupe and honestly it was amazing. Stage 4 racing clutch, upgraded suspension, header, fuel pump, fuel injectors and exhaust. I got it up to 400 hp on the dyno. The thing killed mustangs. The extra 900 rpm from the 9th gens sets it apart tho. BEST SI GENERATION! 8th gen🥰
@@pashahillyard8763that’s the name of the part itself tho. most performance clutches for the 8th gen are made by exedy, and quite literally they make one for each “stage” as in what power level you’re at.
I don't know if I fully agree with this video, but still, good job on the vid, I'm a 9th fan myself but the way I see it, if it's a Honda, I'll drive it
It’s a generational thing. When you were exposed, when you bought your first civic, etc. If you fell in love with VTEC, you’ll always have a soft spot for it
The first USDM Civic Si was a Gen 3 Civic introduced in 1986. There was also a 4th gen Si which was amazing. It had the double wishbone suspension like the 5th gen. The 5th gen was the first USDM with VTEC...yes the 1992 Si had VTEC, even if the valve cover didn't say it. It was a single cam model though.
Just traded in my 9th gen 2015 si which i loved for a 10th gen 2019 si coupe. I absolutely love this thing for two reasons. In my opinion best body style yet for this day and age. And that turbo is legit. Plus sport mode 🔥🔥🔥
Before I got my 6th gen si, I was never a fan of the si I thought they were too common since everyone owned one. But after selling my rsx and buying my 2000 civic si, the car made me change my thought about it, it may not be the fastest but for its size the power and the torque was just enough and the handling was amazing too. Bought my 2000 fbp civic in 2015, now it’s 2019 and I still have it.
Sick video my guy! When I’m not working and driving my 2013 Chevy Silverado I drive a 2012 civic si with full bolt ons and cams. My wife drives a 2018 accord sport which is basically same engine as the 10th gen si and she can keep up with me when we ran them against each other. It’s amazing how far Honda has come!!
Rob Cameron - Car Vlogs Correction:the accord touring has the same platform as the type R which is the 2.0t but the sport comes with the 1.7t which is what the Si has. Sorry bro for correcting you.
Great overview, thank you. VTEC was special. You are right about the 8th gen. That said, as an all around car, I love my 10th gen SI. The chassis is amazing, brakes are insanely good, adaptive dampers, etc. Oh, and more midrange torque. Low redline sucks, and vtec was so cool, but the tradeoffs are there in spades. Now if only it had all this plus VTEC. Bone stock 10th gen is still a driver's car. Hard to argue with 0.97 g on a skidpad.
Sergio Aguirre it’s a different version of the same engine... lol. You think they built a brand new 2.4? Don’t be silly. It’s brand new but boasts the same exact specs? That seems pointless... no?
Sergio Aguirre lol. I have been driving Honda’s since before you were born I bet. 😄😄😄 sorry you thought your new Acura had some exclusive engine... it’s recycled.
I’ve had the 7th gen, 8th gen and now have a turbo 9th gen si. All of them being tafetta white. I have to say even though I’ve only had the 9th gen for about 9 months my favorite is definitely the 8th gen si
Frank Liked your video and I agree 8th gen was great as well as 9th gen but the added low- mid range torque of the 2017 is really great. Hard to beat. But I do miss Vtec. Hopefully it will return with future Si.
My Favorite the 8gen si.. not only that its the last of the k20z3 with the hi rev of 8rpm, it was also the first introduction of mugen in the US. and came with the first 4 doors.. ❤
Heard him say the 6th generation was "more practical because of having 4 doors" . Doubt any North America civic sis aside from maybe a Canadian Si(usdm ex) came in a 4 door as a gen 6. Just got my 8th gen fully road worth *thank GOD*
I’ve owned a 8thgen coupe stanced and everything . Honestly the 8thgen platform is amazing. Such a true Honda Civic to me. And it was in my opinion the last true Honda Civic they made.
Going to have to agree with you on the 8th gen. Last Civic to have the true heart and soul of Vtec. but like you said, the 10th gen is the future. And most likely the car I buy next.
I had an 8th Gen, traded it in for a 10th Gen - I am VERY happy with my purchase BUT am looking for a daily 8th gen bc there is nothing like that high revving NA engine....The 10th gen is better in every way though! the 8th was just amazing! Wish I never traded it in!
I own an Ep3 with a K20a2 (simple Cai, exhaust, header setup) na tuned to about 223hp and I love it, but I can understand why it wasn't popular at all, If anything , the 8th gen and the EK9 were the reason I fell in love with Si's and Honda overall
So far to me my 9th gen k24z is so much powerful then my wife's 10th gen. Yah it has turbo but turbo will cause problems really fast especially on a 1.5L lol. Compared to a k24 no turbo vtech revving 4 banging monster! I still love the 10th gen especially the exterior and interior design. K24 with k20 heads is the best setup when it comes to vtech high performance street fun. Thanks for the video
I think the main problem on that 1.5 liter more so than turbo is that direct fuel injection. The intake cams are gonna get carbon deposits overtime with no gas cleaning them. Oil catch can is a must on direct injection
In Canada we had the 4th generation civic si. It started in 1988 with the CRX Si then in 1989 with the Civic Si. The Si came with Honda's carryover D-series SOHC 1.6-liter inline-four producing 108 horsepower. The 1989-1991 Civic Si included air conditioning and fog lights. The Si made do with manual steering without power assist. If you didn't live through this era, you'll have to take our word for it as to how vastly far ahead of the competition Honda was in 1991. Line up the Civic of that era against any domestic small car, and things weren't even close: The Hondas were built to a higher standard, with consistent fits and panel gaps, and the cars drove with a sophistication American economy cars couldn't touch. Sure, the Honda cost a little more, but you are also more likely to come across one of these Civics today than, say, a Ford Escort of the same vintage. This was and remains a key appeal of Honda products. "Courtesy of Motor Trend"
I just ditched my 2017 WRX for a 2009 Si 8th gen with 44k miles. Couldn’t be happier! I don’t ever want to get rid of this thing! Great video BTW with loads of detail on all of the North American Si’s!
You shouldn't be disappointed with the 10th gen. A simple tune and cai I'm making 250whp and around 300wtrq. 35.5mpg city and its $23k out the door price Its beautiful and the interior is nice. I miss the vtec but the turbo L15b is bae Prl is making 600whp and 10 second 1/4mile with a huge after market support. The 10th gen is the best
The 8th generation Civic Si also got helical type limited slip differential, in which the "acura rsx -usdm" did not nor did the previous generation Civic sis
I absolutely love my 10th gen Si (2019). For me it strikes the perfect balance between practicality, power, and comfort. It gets excellent mileage when I'm toting the family around and is still fun to drive when I want to put my foot down.
8th gen si is best because it's the last one with dual cam profile VTEC and a engine that can rev up to 8000rpm and to 8600rpm with a reflash. The 9th gen is good, but it's missing exhaust side VTEC so when doing a NA setup you can't make as much easily as the K20Z3. I feel like they should of put the K24A2 in the 9th gen instead if that was possible.
I use to get 56mpgs out of my ej2 automatic highway. And 58mpgs after I swapped the d15b7 for a b18b1 manual transmission S80 with Type R internals, P06 ecu manual transmission converted. But with the b18b1 140 bhp and 127 lb⋅ft. compared with the 102 hp and 98 lb·ft. Is a big improvement..
All Tim The first generation CRX is a Civic and still had a Civic badge on the back. The second generation was also still a Civic. Both cars share parts with Civics. Both Civic and CRX models had Si trims. I’m not sure what your point is. Source: I own a 1985 CRX Si, the very first model year of the Si trim.
Just saw this and I must say that as years go by, the 8th gen holds its position as the GOAT, making it it’s last hashtag, 8th gen, FG2 and now The Si GOAT, it’s the last and top dog of it’s class, simple yet advanced tech, awesome audio sound straight from factory and not to mention we got a MUGEN colab on the 8th gen.
It’s actually why I clicked the video to begin with. Was hoping to see somebody talk about it since it never gets light. Sadly, nothing was mentioned about it, and the 5th gen civic started the lineup. That’s when I clicked off a little disappointed to say the least. Was excited since I really liked the video up to that point
1986 si was my first car in the early 90's ... loved it .1600 twin cam , the reason I clicked on this video too ... and stopped 1 minute and 50 seconds into it...
Am I the only one who prefers the 6th gen the most to this day?? One word: visibility. Also a very forgiving clutch, really nice balance, and an incredible aftermarket. Had mine for 4 years/70k miles before it was stolen and scrapped about 5 years ago. You’re turning me on to the 8th gen a little though! 9th gen does have nicer interior that would be the only deciding factor between the 2 imo.
i’m impressed with the 9th gen civic. i got hit head on by a 2015 si while i was in my 2015 jeep and while i limped away i thought si guy was toast but nope he just broke his foot. at 90+mph combined speeds this dude in a civic coupe lived to tell the tale of him eating the grille of my jeep
I owned a 2 em1’s and loved it, but now I bought a FA5 and it is rite up there with my AP2.Honda has always had a special place in my heart all the fun memories, all the dumb things I did in them when I was younger now I’m pushing 40 and just wanna enjoy the classic Honda. Although I do have a type r on my radar if we’re talking new new. Good job on the video 👍
I love my 8th gen and hate it at the same time but every friend I’ve made in the car community that has or has had an 8th gen all day they love and miss it. I upgraded from a 98 civic ex coupe to a 2010 Honda Civic si and I love it. My dad as well has a 2007 8th gen si and we both love it. Only part that sucks is the space you have with working behind the motor. Other than that it’s a great car.
If I still had my Ep3, I would probably Turbo it, Or Super charge it. If any car is Underpowered with not enough Torque and needs Boost, Its Definitely the Ep3
Swap the RSX Type S head (K20A2) on then boost it. Would also need ECU swap and tune. The K20A3 was a fuel efficiency targeted engine. VTEC was only on the intake side instead of both exhaust and intake side which made VTEC engage lower than normal but only produced 160hp which is relative to the 99/00 Si. I miss my 03 Si as it was fun to drive. You could have also done the VTEC killer setup which locks the VTEC cam lobes to be fully engaged at all times. Only problem is that the engine bay was WAY too cramped and hard to work on unless you deleted a lot of things like A.C. PS etc. If I could find another one in good condition I would totally buy one and modify it again. The obvious best swap for it would be the JDM K20A swap producing over 200hp that this generation Civic was given in Japan which was the Civic Type R not Si. (Specs on that are different per source but it was the best K20 variant with the most power 220hp*) *could be wrong on power number but I know it's higher than the K20Z3 and K20A2.
@@adamhinojos123 lol i know i was just saying cause i watched people tripping out on this other video about RWD conversions like it aint even real. most people just don't bother too costly i guess.
10th Gen is the 1st turbo with DI engine Honda is manufacturing. I have read DI egineers have issue with carbon buildup in the intake valves due to where the injectors are located. DI engines inject fuel directly into the cylinders where combustion takes place. Because of this the valves can get very dirty with carbon buildup and will affect the engine's performance over time. The carbon buildup is a result of oil blowby. Whereas the PI engines inject fuel above the valves and in a way cleans them prior to reaching the the cylinders.I heard a catch can can be a solution to prevent the oil blowby to re-circulation back into the intake valves via pvc valve. The reason for me to bring this up is because I purchased a 2018 Civic si. Great to drive until I found out about potential issues with DI engines.
Really all you need to bring the performance to life is a nice downpipe, coilovers and a solid set of wheels(I choose motegis), and your pretty much set for the streets and the track 👐👌🔥
@@Bran.s2k I can confirm that I own a 9th gen 2014 its 205 NA but im thinking about doing a 8th and 9th gen block mix to get around 260 NA and 8000 rpm redline best part I get to keep CVT and iVtec
Robert Chavez ik i might sound dumb but... didn’t only the 2014 civics (205 hp increase model) and up get the cvt? And I thought cvt was for the automatics, how tf are they cvt manual? I’m confused man
What's your favorite generation Si?!
I agree with you about the 8th gen and it being the last pure Si, but I think the purest is the 92. Love that thing. Great video
I like the 99-2000
9th
EK4 Civic Ferio Si
8th
This dude looks mad at us while he’s talking
I am.
its those brows
Hahaha!
I thought the same haha
@Bryce Czirr try hard deep voice wtf lol
Holy crap! I was scrolling through vids and saw my actual car in your thumbnail haha. It's the 93 hatch with the red seats. Here is some info on the car if anyone cares:
93 Civic CX with a b16a2 swap out of the 2000 Si. The thumbnail photo was taken at Barber Motorsports Park in front of the car museum. It had the old red Tenzo R (RECARO Replica) seats but was switched out with some Buddy Club fixed backs shortly after.
Car had basic bolt-ons and a Spoon N1 exhaust. Koni adjustable struts with Hypercoil springs, Integra Type R RSB, Si Disk brake upgrade, Rota GT3 wheels running Hoosier A6 Slicks, Kirk Racing cage and gutted rear cabin interior. That was during the JDM trend so I had quite a few things imported from JPN (Vision Technica corner lights, JDM tails, Spoon radiator hoses, Spoon N1, JDM fogs I never installed and a bunch of other stuff I can't remember right off hand).
It competed in SCCA from 2007-2014 where I finally won the SMF championship that final year. I still own the car but it has not been driven since 2015 and just been tucked away in the back of my shop. Just starting to restore it but in no rush.
Here is a link to an old video of it on my other channel:
th-cam.com/video/nE3oMNn9cL8/w-d-xo.html
Enjoyed the video btw! My favorite Si was the 99-00 though I never owned one. I honestly never paid much attention to Civics past 2000. The years after went to a McPherson strut setup and ditched the fantastic double wishbone suspension of the 88-00s. Not sure if that means anything to the stance crowd but it was a deathblow to us racers.
Best way to sum up the difference between the 8th Gen Si and the 9th gen...
8th Gen: "VTEC just kicked in Yo!!!"
9th Gen: "Yo! Did VTEC just kick in??"
9th has ivtec and only kicks in above 5000 rpm which is a perfectly spaced powerband ive drove all of them and 9th is the best imo thanks to the CVT you can natural asperate tune them with a good bottom and top block mix from 9th and 8th gens and have the best of both worlds getting a red line of 8000 rpm and maintaining cvt and crazy like beginning to end horsepower around 260
9th gen:ivtec kicked in yo
8th gen:what is ivtec
Great video, but you should really sit a little further away from the camera.
Yeah
Tarik Sonmez hahaha
I kept thinking he was going to spit while he was talking!
... or just show more cars! 🚗
Yea gotta keep that social distance amirite
Ill get my hands on the new 10th gen Si but my 8th gen Si is not going anywhere its staying with me. #TrueVtec
Same here brother!
did you end up getting the 10th gen yet?
U still got ur 8th?
Gen X is the way to go. 2020 new decade
Still have your 8th gen?
My Civic Si is a 2013 9th gen, and I love it. The car drives and handles really well. The interior is great. It has the biggest engine, and it's the last NA car. I plan on keeping it for many years down the road.
I have the same car. I have a few gripes with the video. The 9th gen SI has 205 hp and red lines at 7250 rpm stock.
Hope you still have it! Best car in the world, for a HUGE demographic.
@pashahillyard8763 I wish I did, but I totaled it about 3 years ago. I had just finished paying it off, then I crashed it into a ditch.
I still miss it every day. Please drive safe out there.
In 2014 the 9th gen si's got an increase of 4 hp and 4 tq so instead of 201hp 170tq they had 205hp 174tq
I had a Kraftworks supercharged 2010 si coupe and honestly it was amazing. Stage 4 racing clutch, upgraded suspension, header, fuel pump, fuel injectors and exhaust. I got it up to 400 hp on the dyno. The thing killed mustangs. The extra 900 rpm from the 9th gens sets it apart tho. BEST SI GENERATION! 8th gen🥰
Nolan Conley I need to upgrade my SI 😫👌🏽
"Stage 4" lol
@@pashahillyard8763that’s the name of the part itself tho. most performance clutches for the 8th gen are made by exedy, and quite literally they make one for each “stage” as in what power level you’re at.
I don't know if I fully agree with this video, but still, good job on the vid, I'm a 9th fan myself but the way I see it, if it's a Honda, I'll drive it
and that's fine man, respect!
I prefer 9th across the board on the civics. I love my 2014 si coupe!
@@b_nast19 I agree with you, looks & Chassis-wise, but that Rev hang is a turn off.
Video mustve taken a long time because he grew facial hair😂😂
Glad someone finally noticed
@@robdog9265 I Honestly thought my eyes played a trick on me I was like “did he have facial hair the whole time?”
It’s a generational thing. When you were exposed, when you bought your first civic, etc. If you fell in love with VTEC, you’ll always have a soft spot for it
My favorite is the 8th gen, it is my first car that I worked for months to buy and I’m never letting her go.
How many miles
when people say Si you think EM1 nuff said lol
John Gotti yup
John Gotti YUP
Yupppp !
Indeed
Hell yeah
The first USDM Civic Si was a Gen 3 Civic introduced in 1986. There was also a 4th gen Si which was amazing. It had the double wishbone suspension like the 5th gen. The 5th gen was the first USDM with VTEC...yes the 1992 Si had VTEC, even if the valve cover didn't say it. It was a single cam model though.
Yeah he missed a couple of the best SI models.
9th Gen is my favorite
Maybe because you own one? I do. I love the torque from the 2.4 non-turbo.
Just traded in my 9th gen 2015 si which i loved for a 10th gen 2019 si coupe. I absolutely love this thing for two reasons. In my opinion best body style yet for this day and age. And that turbo is legit. Plus sport mode 🔥🔥🔥
Before I got my 6th gen si, I was never a fan of the si I thought they were too common since everyone owned one. But after selling my rsx and buying my 2000 civic si, the car made me change my thought about it, it may not be the fastest but for its size the power and the torque was just enough and the handling was amazing too. Bought my 2000 fbp civic in 2015, now it’s 2019 and I still have it.
My favorite generation si will always be the em1...when someone mentions a Honda Civic si I automatically think of an em1
Sick video my guy! When I’m not working and driving my 2013 Chevy Silverado I drive a 2012 civic si with full bolt ons and cams. My wife drives a 2018 accord sport which is basically same engine as the 10th gen si and she can keep up with me when we ran them against each other. It’s amazing how far Honda has come!!
Even better actually, the new Accord sport shares the same platform as the Type R 👍
Rob Cameron - Car Vlogs Correction:the accord touring has the same platform as the type R which is the 2.0t but the sport comes with the 1.7t which is what the Si has. Sorry bro for correcting you.
@@shaunanthony9421 Ahhh gotcha! Good to know.
@@shaunanthony9421 The Si has a 1.5t
1999 and 2000 Civic Si's are the best, hands down.
The mighty B16A2 💪
💯💯🏎
Great overview, thank you. VTEC was special. You are right about the 8th gen. That said, as an all around car, I love my 10th gen SI. The chassis is amazing, brakes are insanely good, adaptive dampers, etc. Oh, and more midrange torque. Low redline sucks, and vtec was so cool, but the tradeoffs are there in spades. Now if only it had all this plus VTEC. Bone stock 10th gen is still a driver's car. Hard to argue with 0.97 g on a skidpad.
I like the 7th gen because nobody else does. In Canada our Si was your EX
yea the em2 si is the most beautiful civic in my opinion
2015 civic si - last year of n/a - 2.4 litre TSX motor all souped from factory. Best si ever built!!
S T i G Z I just picked up 9Th gen Civic Si about 3 months ago in love with it slapping a new camber kit on today😍😍😍
Tekkengodjets 😍😍😍😍😍😍
Sergio Aguirre it’s a different version of the same engine... lol. You think they built a brand new 2.4? Don’t be silly. It’s brand new but boasts the same exact specs? That seems pointless... no?
Sergio Aguirre lol. I have been driving Honda’s since before you were born I bet. 😄😄😄 sorry you thought your new Acura had some exclusive engine... it’s recycled.
Sergio Aguirre not entirely
Yoooo. The 7th gen Si has a 5 speed transmission. Not a 6 speed. That didnt come till the 8th gen.
The ep3 weighed 2667 the eighth gen was 2822 .
I’ve had the 7th gen, 8th gen and now have a turbo 9th gen si. All of them being tafetta white. I have to say even though I’ve only had the 9th gen for about 9 months my favorite is definitely the 8th gen si
How come the 8th gen is your favorite
Frank Liked your video and I agree 8th gen was great as well as 9th gen but the added low- mid range torque of the 2017 is really great. Hard to beat. But I do miss Vtec. Hopefully it will return with future Si.
Yep I totally agree!
My Favorite the 8gen si.. not only that its the last of the k20z3 with the hi rev of 8rpm, it was also the first introduction of mugen in the US. and came with the first 4 doors.. ❤
Heard him say the 6th generation was "more practical because of having 4 doors" . Doubt any North America civic sis aside from maybe a Canadian Si(usdm ex) came in a 4 door as a gen 6. Just got my 8th gen fully road worth *thank GOD*
The best Si is a 9th gen bottom end K24 with the head from the K20 8th gen
I have a civic 8gen and it has a k24a2 engine and I am as factory, I did it because I like that model among all the SI
personally, the 6th gen si - best aftermarket support, the 9th gen - best to turbo, the 10th gen best practically and potential.
I’ve owned a 8thgen coupe stanced and everything .
Honestly the 8thgen platform is amazing.
Such a true Honda Civic to me. And it was in my opinion the last true Honda Civic they made.
EP3 Si had a 5 speed. The 6 speed was reserved for the Type R
Going to have to agree with you on the 8th gen. Last Civic to have the true heart and soul of Vtec. but like you said, the 10th gen is the future. And most likely the car I buy next.
definitely!
I had an 8th Gen, traded it in for a 10th Gen - I am VERY happy with my purchase BUT am looking for a daily 8th gen bc there is nothing like that high revving NA engine....The 10th gen is better in every way though! the 8th was just amazing! Wish I never traded it in!
@@mikenormandy9250 I'm a 10th gen owner and I completely agree. The 8th gen is just soo much fun and well set up.
Agreed! I'm never selling my 2008 SI!
I’m thinking of buying a 10th gen either 4 door si or a touring hatch. But I’m also curious if I can swap a engine in the 10th gen non si civic 🤔
Had a 6th gen civic lx back when I was in high school in 2009. Sold it in 2013 and miss it. 5-6th gen was my favorite.
I own an Ep3 with a K20a2 (simple Cai, exhaust, header setup) na tuned to about 223hp and I love it, but I can understand why it wasn't popular at all,
If anything , the 8th gen and the EK9 were the reason I fell in love with Si's and Honda overall
EP3's with the right motor are extremely fun for sure. i have a K24A2 in mine and love it inside and out more than the k20a3
So far to me my 9th gen k24z is so much powerful then my wife's 10th gen. Yah it has turbo but turbo will cause problems really fast especially on a 1.5L lol. Compared to a k24 no turbo vtech revving 4 banging monster! I still love the 10th gen especially the exterior and interior design. K24 with k20 heads is the best setup when it comes to vtech high performance street fun. Thanks for the video
I think the main problem on that 1.5 liter more so than turbo is that direct fuel injection. The intake cams are gonna get carbon deposits overtime with no gas cleaning them. Oil catch can is a must on direct injection
i like the 9th gen Si.
In Canada we had the 4th generation civic si. It started in 1988 with the CRX Si then in 1989 with the Civic Si. The Si came with Honda's carryover D-series SOHC 1.6-liter inline-four producing 108 horsepower. The 1989-1991 Civic Si included air conditioning and fog lights. The Si made do with manual steering without power assist. If you didn't live through this era, you'll have to take our word for it as to how vastly far ahead of the competition Honda was in 1991. Line up the Civic of that era against any domestic small car, and things weren't even close: The Hondas were built to a higher standard, with consistent fits and panel gaps, and the cars drove with a sophistication American economy cars couldn't touch. Sure, the Honda cost a little more, but you are also more likely to come across one of these Civics today than, say, a Ford Escort of the same vintage. This was and remains a key appeal of Honda products. "Courtesy of Motor Trend"
2009 8 Gen Si V tec . I got one in my garage w 12000 miles. It’s my weekend car.
I just ditched my 2017 WRX for a 2009 Si 8th gen with 44k miles. Couldn’t be happier! I don’t ever want to get rid of this thing! Great video BTW with loads of detail on all of the North American Si’s!
That’s quite a downgrade. What made you switch?
I own a 9th gen and wanted a 2017 wrx,wat make u wanna downgrade?
That’s not a down grade that’s an up grade
EM1 99-00 Civic Si-R of course the blue one 🙄
I have a blk one, I love it
Black always look amazing 😎🔥🤷♂️
They never made a civic SIR for the states
those are classic
Donny P. Si-r in the us was sold as the Si
I have the 8th and 9th gen, and I absolutely love my 8th gen. All day, everyday!
You shouldn't be disappointed with the 10th gen. A simple tune and cai I'm making 250whp and around 300wtrq. 35.5mpg city and its $23k out the door price
Its beautiful and the interior is nice. I miss the vtec but the turbo L15b is bae
Prl is making 600whp and 10 second 1/4mile with a huge after market support. The 10th gen is the best
@Bryce Czirr no it's not
Civic for jdm fanboys, gti for autobahn and German fanboy...
@Bryce Czirr I'm sure si gets better gas mileage
And reliability
@@tinzillah depends what were talking about. Gti is iron block. Overall though, yeah, it should he more reliable
I bought a 99 Si in March of 1999. Had many others since and that 99 is still my favorite of all. I’ve had two RSX Type S 02 and 06 as well.
9th gen and 8th gen
Same here
@@Soicy_Tre oh cool
@@Soicy_Tre si or non si
@@ruinedcivic420 Si
@@Soicy_Tre same!
6:17 - "I enjoy the 92 (5th generation) hatchback more". Shows a picture of a 1996-1998 Civic 6th generation.
Yes you are correct
Also kept referring to the EM1 as a 4 door sedan. Quite a few errors.
8th I'd say, second choice would be 6th. 7th gen was a let down with the weak k20 and no LSD.
I agree! 👍
O love the 7th gen, but when people talk about an Si, I only think of 6th gen. Period.
Really ? Only 6th gen?
I frequently average 32 mpg on my 2012 Si. Driving in the mountains I can be in 6th and not find it necessary to downshift. I enjoy the torque.
8th gen is the most raw power and 9th gen is the Perfect daily and race car and the 10th gen is the perfect daily
1991 Hatchback SI It was great car and very sporty
2000 model Si is my favorite
The 8th generation Civic Si also got helical type limited slip differential, in which the "acura rsx -usdm" did not nor did the previous generation Civic sis
Si started in like 85 in North America, both in hatch and CRX. They also had ef's. The best stock si is probably the em1, or the 2nd gen CRX
Civic Si* wanted to keep the video more consistent
@@robdog9265 the 85 civic si exists and was sold here. My dad bought an 86 si when I was 9
2nd gen crx si without a doubt
@@robdog9265 more consistent wtf lol if anything u made it less so
@@octaviusvonmoondust6401 yes man I goofed and forgot the 89 somehow. But consitent as in not including the CRX and Del Sol Si, etc..
I absolutely love my 10th gen Si (2019). For me it strikes the perfect balance between practicality, power, and comfort. It gets excellent mileage when I'm toting the family around and is still fun to drive when I want to put my foot down.
Get a ktuner or hondata flashpro and it'll be even funner!
8th gen si is best because it's the last one with dual cam profile VTEC and a engine that can rev up to 8000rpm and to 8600rpm with a reflash. The 9th gen is good, but it's missing exhaust side VTEC so when doing a NA setup you can't make as much easily as the K20Z3. I feel like they should of put the K24A2 in the 9th gen instead if that was possible.
i love the look of the 9th gen, but my favorite is also the 8th gen because the motor is a beauty'
My favorite is a 7th gen with a 8th gen motor!!
Wow, you completely forgot about the 4th gen Si, and yes, it was available in Canada. The 3rd gen wasn't sold in Canada, but it WAS sold in the U.S.
Right? I have a 1987 Si in black ... also have a 2015 Si 4 door .... beyond that cool video.
@@dvlpup03 cool! Keep the '87 as long as you can, they are amazing cars 👍
I use to get 56mpgs out of my ej2 automatic highway.
And 58mpgs after I swapped the d15b7 for a b18b1 manual transmission S80 with Type R internals, P06 ecu manual transmission converted.
But with the b18b1 140 bhp and 127 lb⋅ft.
compared with the 102 hp and 98 lb·ft.
Is a big improvement..
No mention of the 3rd or 4th gen si?
I dont think those were available in the us, he said that hed only talk about us ones
@@williamruiz9186 yes they were available my dad got a 78 civic and I had a 85 1500 S and 91 si
Did you forget the CRX? The 3rd generation Civic and 1st gen CRX was the first with the Si trim in 1985.
Alex Nelson he’s talking about civics
All Tim The first generation CRX is a Civic and still had a Civic badge on the back. The second generation was also still a Civic. Both cars share parts with Civics. Both Civic and CRX models had Si trims. I’m not sure what your point is.
Source: I own a 1985 CRX Si, the very first model year of the Si trim.
@@alltim2527 lmao the CR-X is a civic you plebe
@@SkittyDoogle ty
i love my 2015.
But the real point... is that everybody knows somebody that loves a honda. lol
Just saw this and I must say that as years go by, the 8th gen holds its position as the GOAT, making it it’s last hashtag, 8th gen, FG2 and now The Si GOAT, it’s the last and top dog of it’s class, simple yet advanced tech, awesome audio sound straight from factory and not to mention we got a MUGEN colab on the 8th gen.
ep3 7th gen si were just 5 speeds same engine and trans combo as base rsx
You completely forgot the best civic to ever exist. The 1986 civic si
Yep, and that's also my personal favorite Si
It’s actually why I clicked the video to begin with. Was hoping to see somebody talk about it since it never gets light.
Sadly, nothing was mentioned about it, and the 5th gen civic started the lineup. That’s when I clicked off a little disappointed to say the least. Was excited since I really liked the video up to that point
Yeah that was very disappointing not to see the 1st 2 civic Sis
1986 si was my first car in the early 90's ... loved it .1600 twin cam , the reason I clicked on this video too ... and stopped 1 minute and 50 seconds into it...
I agree with you on the 8th gen being the best, I owned 1, loved it miss it. now I have a 10th gen which is awesome IMO!!
Dude. How long did this video take to make?? By the end; you have a goatee
Am I the only one who prefers the 6th gen the most to this day?? One word: visibility. Also a very forgiving clutch, really nice balance, and an incredible aftermarket. Had mine for 4 years/70k miles before it was stolen and scrapped about 5 years ago. You’re turning me on to the 8th gen a little though! 9th gen does have nicer interior that would be the only deciding factor between the 2 imo.
Awesome video. I have a 8 gen 2011... love it.
Also please don't eat us. Thanks!
I loved all the info you provided in this video, helped me learn more about the EG and EK generations of the Civic Si.
Thanks bro! I appreciate it.
9th gen hands down.
Why is that bro.
i’m impressed with the 9th gen civic. i got hit head on by a 2015 si while i was in my 2015 jeep and while i limped away i thought si guy was toast but nope he just broke his foot. at 90+mph combined speeds this dude in a civic coupe lived to tell the tale of him eating the grille of my jeep
The Civic si came out way earlier than 92 get it right
GARRY OAK facts
Yup it came out in 84
Y’all need DMT
@@wizardt115 ok Joe Rogan
He’s talking about US Si’s not from Japan
I owned a 2 em1’s and loved it, but now I bought a FA5 and it is rite up there with my AP2.Honda has always had a special place in my heart all the fun memories, all the dumb things I did in them when I was younger now I’m pushing 40 and just wanna enjoy the classic Honda. Although I do have a type r on my radar if we’re talking new new. Good job on the video 👍
I got a 2014 9th Gen it’s my fav
This video pretty much sums it up. I love my fa5.
EP3 7th gen came with a 5 speed btw
I love my 8th gen and hate it at the same time but every friend I’ve made in the car community that has or has had an 8th gen all day they love and miss it. I upgraded from a 98 civic ex coupe to a 2010 Honda Civic si and I love it. My dad as well has a 2007 8th gen si and we both love it. Only part that sucks is the space you have with working behind the motor. Other than that it’s a great car.
If I still had my Ep3, I would probably Turbo it, Or Super charge it. If any car is Underpowered with not enough Torque and needs Boost, Its Definitely the Ep3
Swap the RSX Type S head (K20A2) on then boost it. Would also need ECU swap and tune. The K20A3 was a fuel efficiency targeted engine. VTEC was only on the intake side instead of both exhaust and intake side which made VTEC engage lower than normal but only produced 160hp which is relative to the 99/00 Si. I miss my 03 Si as it was fun to drive. You could have also done the VTEC killer setup which locks the VTEC cam lobes to be fully engaged at all times. Only problem is that the engine bay was WAY too cramped and hard to work on unless you deleted a lot of things like A.C. PS etc. If I could find another one in good condition I would totally buy one and modify it again. The obvious best swap for it would be the JDM K20A swap producing over 200hp that this generation Civic was given in Japan which was the Civic Type R not Si. (Specs on that are different per source but it was the best K20 variant with the most power 220hp*)
*could be wrong on power number but I know it's higher than the K20Z3 and K20A2.
@@hotdropknockdndc681 That would be really fun. It would be fun Kanjo style it. The visibility in the Ep3 was awesome too
I'm glad you showed the interior of a 10th Gen non SI car...Si dont come in Automatic guy..
you can always convert. just like converting fwd to rwd anything is possible for a price
@@Celbrise i enjoyed the video just givin you a hard time....i have a 10th gen only reason i new..
@@adamhinojos123 lol i know i was just saying cause i watched people tripping out on this other video about RWD conversions like it aint even real. most people just don't bother too costly i guess.
When you talk it feels like your getting angry... move back a little , it would help!
I also agree with the 8th gen, thats what I want for my first car.
Good video bro but damn back up from the camera lol
Thanks bro. Soon though haha. My current setup is in my closet. Setting up an office soon 🤙🏻
The ep3 never had a 6spd. and the redline is 6800rpm on the k20a3. Where did you get this info from?
rev limit is 7500* on the k20A3
GAS * yeah i know. I said redline not rev limiter.
9th gen is the best!
In your eyes..
I had an 8th, now I have a 9th. I’m waiting out the 10th gen to see what 11 brings.
9th gen is 7100 rpm red line.
07 si 8gen 8700
Got myself a 9th gen. I love it, curious as to how the other gens feel.
3rd and 4th gen civics also have si models
Yep completely ruined the video up for me.
Left out the 3rd and 4th gens. Both were in offered in an SI trim in the US. Owned 2 4th gen SI's such fun cars.
2000 Honda civic si... even better with a k swap / 6 speed
Just picked up a 9th gen. It’s a pretty good balance with more modern features and DD ability but still has VTAAAACcCcCcc!
8TH Gen FA5 ALL DAY!
10th Gen is the 1st turbo with DI engine Honda is manufacturing. I have read DI egineers have issue with carbon buildup in the intake valves due to where the injectors are located. DI engines inject fuel directly into the cylinders where combustion takes place. Because of this the valves can get very dirty with carbon buildup and will affect the engine's performance over time. The carbon buildup is a result of oil blowby. Whereas the PI engines inject fuel above the valves and in a way cleans them prior to reaching the the cylinders.I heard a catch can can be a solution to prevent the oil blowby to re-circulation back into the intake valves via pvc valve.
The reason for me to bring this up is because I purchased a 2018 Civic si. Great to drive until I found out about potential issues with DI engines.
10th gen shit lol
Em1 gang
I got a 2012 9th gen myself and there's a few catches to it but overall I'm just glad I got one of the last pure vtec lineage
Yep I agree. Makes me want one instead of the 10th gen. Gonna miss vtec:/
What he said,Exactly what Ari said real rap👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾🙌🏾😍 just picked up 9th gen Si black coupe few months ago
Really all you need to bring the performance to life is a nice downpipe, coilovers and a solid set of wheels(I choose motegis), and your pretty much set for the streets and the track 👐👌🔥
@Sergio Aguirre besides the K20z3 can you really argue base power numbers with the k24 block, I don't think so chief
@Sergio Aguirre power mods the K24 responds better but as far overall customization and nostalgia the b16 has it all day
I thought my 9th gen had 205 hp
YogiCeballos honestly that’s what i thoughts too 🤔 but turns out he’s only only looking at the hp from the 2012-13 models. 2014-15 has 205 hp
@@Bran.s2k I can confirm that I own a 9th gen 2014 its 205 NA but im thinking about doing a 8th and 9th gen block mix to get around 260 NA and 8000 rpm redline best part I get to keep CVT and iVtec
Robert Chavez ik i might sound dumb but... didn’t only the 2014 civics (205 hp increase model) and up get the cvt? And I thought cvt was for the automatics, how tf are they cvt manual? I’m confused man
Dude thank you for this video. Thank you.
9th gen all the way