man i have sooo much fun with this weapon, being a LS (longsword) user, its got the range, but the speed of dual blades, its great. and them jumpy attacks are just phenomenal
Just wanted to say that I really appreciate your tutorial videos. I main with the Charge Blade and your tutorial was instrumental in getting the hang of it. It's well put together, and the visual aid along with the written commentary allows me to easily stop and examine what's going on. The text is very concise and you bring up nuances in the weapons that could easily be dismissed at a cursory glance.
gaijin hunter It sounds much more atmospheric and less repetitive this time around, which is fantastic because you do spend a ton of time in the town while deciding what fight to do next or researching stuff. This wasn't even on my wishlist for improvements in this game, but I am super excited to know its there and makes me want it to release over here even more!
700+ hours of playing IG and I thought I knew everything about it. I decided to watch this video just to see how well I had been self-taught. 1 min in and Gaijinhunter already has me feeling like a complete doofus - I HAD NO IDEA YOU COULD CHARGE UP THE KINSECT LAUNCH! I would just like to add that draw attack can be done with X, you just have to be moving forward. Thank you for this and for all your amazing tutorials!
Awesome guide! Thanks very much. I had not bothered with the Insect Glaive ever because it sounded too complicated. I was giving it a go and not doing so well. Looked up this guide and it is such a strong/unique weapon! I've started a new game and I am doing great with it.
Amazingly useful guide. I'm going to try out the Glaive and the Charge Blade on the MH4U demo in anticipation of the game's release. Couldn't do it without your help, gaijin hunter!
I accidentally deleted my message trying to edit it. While holding R with the Glaive, a reticle comes up, and during that time you cannot evade, you can only shoot nectar or pole vault, so if you time it wrong you can leave yourself open to an attack. I found a way to cancel the reticle though, while holding R, press Start, let go of R, then press start again and you will cancel the nectar shot early. (This can be done almost instantly if you're quick enough) If anybody knows of a better method please let me know.
I don't know if someone else mentioned it already and I am absolutely no pro on kinsects (hit high rank some days ago but I use kinsect quite a bit)... but I think a high Stamina kinsect can be useful as well, not just speed. The kinsect will not always reach the target in time, especially true if you stand far away, but you can issue the attack command again and it will correct its flying path towards the marked target and with high stamina it you can command it a few times. But what I really love about a high stamina kinsect is, that you can send it through the monsters body multiple times before it runs out of stamina. Very useful if your kinsect has caught the wrong color, just let it fly through the enemy again, maybe it will have better luck now picking the right one. Also this makes much better use of the kinsects raw and elemental damage. You can let it do multiple hits. I usually do this up close to the monster, circling it while issuing the kinsect commands, till I have all colors I need. I had monster flinch from time to time just from kinsect hits, rarely even a kill by kinsect. :p I can imagine that speed kinsects are much more efficient just for color gathering, but I have a lot of fun feeling that the kinsect does its part of the battle too. :) But this is just the way I enjoy my kinsect right now and I just have very few glaives since I am still a newbie. I am curious to see a high power high stamina kinsect in much higher ranks.
thanks so much gaijin, after the tutorial mission for the glaive i was left with more questions than when i started, and put me off from using it. this vid was super helpful!
Many, many thanks for this guide man! I'm hoping to see one with some of the new features of the other weapons, especially the gunlance! Keep up the excellent work.
I started using the Galive more ofteb and I really like it a lot, specially since I upgraded my Gore Magala Glaive for a Shagaru Glaive, now I looking for stuff for eiteh Dios Rod or Fatalis Rod (My main weapon is still Gunlace though), but when I admit I havee more to leran about them, there are people who don´t even try. The other day I was playing with a Hunter named justing, and when fightimg he was just spaming the leap attack to mount mosters, no combos, no Kinsect, only leap and mount, he almost got fainted trhee time by a PINK RATHIAN! I decided to kick him because he was just next to useless while hunting.
Several things the video didn't mention: 1. Press R during any combo to side swing with the other end of the glaive, this will mark the monster part it hits with bug pheromone. It also does impact damage rather than cut. Very useful for marking the head of a downed monster which will be a lot harder to hit for your kinsect normally, like the Fatalis. Downside is this move will end your combo as you can't chain any other move after other than rolling. 2. Gaijin says he wouldn't rely on the kinsect to do a hunter's job of dealing damage, which is not entirely true. When upgraded to max power, especially with Power Up (L), the kinsect can deal a surprising amount of damage. It's most effectively demonstrated with the PowerUp + StaminaUp kinsect upgrade path, which also comes with ChargeTime Down. Charging a kinsect only takes 1 second and it can down/break a monster at the most unexpected moment, not to mention that the kinsect can easily catch up with monsters fleeing or when the monster is too dangerous to approach. 3. I strongly favour impact kinsects over cut kinsects. Cut kinsects can cut monster tails, but of course requires precise handling. Impact kinsects, on the other hand, can KO a monster when hit repeatedly. This is again best demonstrated with the ChargeTime Down kinsect with PowerUp + StaminaUp (you can still upgrade the kinsect speed to max regardless of upgrade path). If you can successfully topple a monster, stand in front of its head and charge your kinsect into it repeatedly, it's almost guaranteed that you can KO it before it stands back up (depends on the monster ofc, some monsters are harder to KO). 4. If you've read my point 3, go get the Paralyzing Vine (Najarala glaive) and get the PowerUp + StaminaUp kinsect and do these: mount and topple a monster -> get red juice -> combo the downed monster till it paralyzes -> charge attack monster head -> KO monster. Which gives a big window for your teammates to output massive damage with their favourite weapon (GS players will hug you to death).
I feel like its worth noting that a damage based kinsect is not unviable, but it is going to require G rank materials to make, like the effect extender kinsect. Either way, just throw everything into speed until then, unless you 100% know exactly what you are doing.
Something interesting to note that i didnt see pointed out is if you send your kinsect to attack three times without calling it back it will do the drill charge it does when you charge it in your glaive for a while before letting it go
My favourite guides out there. Thanks a lot for your hardwork ! I'm currently preparing for MH4U release here in europe and planning to main IG. What would be a good IG route to avoid wasting time and ressources upgrading unneeded stuff (apart from the fact that you stack speed only till Grank) ?
So far as I've seen, a lot of large monsters have a green spot. I know Nerscylla has one and so does the Basarios. I think it's generally on their back though, so it can be tricky to get. I've hit green on accident a LOT on Nerscylla
There's no mention of this in the video, but the jump attack is capable of 3 hits, just... not sure how exactly. I get them every now and then on flying monsters if I jump up under them.
Just a minor correction; Glaive is not the only weapon for which the draw attack is the A attack. Switch Axe also does the A attack as its draw attack when drawing into axe mode.
gaijin hunter I'm not a native speaker. But I understand under the draw attack the unsheathing of the weapon with an attack at the same moment. But that's the X button, and not the A button, right?
HR 228 with lots of mixed sets and a deep knowledge of every weapon... except for Bug Staff, thanks for the upload, I tried learning on my own, but that upgrade screen is just to intimidating for me.
Hey, do you think you could cover some of the specifics of the kinsect, in terms of what the upgrade paths' different special skills will do? Also, being able to understand some of the damage/KO values and that sort of thing would be greatly appreciated. I know it's really not sensible to worry too much about the kinsect's damage, but hey - knowledge is power, right? I thirst for the knowledge.
I'll specify that I'm just sort of generally interested in how to calculate kinsect damage (presumably based on power rating) and how much KO damage it can do and how effective things like Extract Efficacy Up are and what the "Affinity Up" part of "Extract Extend & Affinity Up" actually does.
Yea my game Glitched out when I got a new glaive, having the same upgrades as the previous one, but the next time I went to upgrade it it was back to normal.
When do you start to be able to forge new Glaives? I used the starting one for a bit in the beginning, but then I switched over to the Long Sword because the upgrade path for the Glaive didn't seem to be going anywhere.
Ah, I remember asking the same question myself! If I remember quickly, there's only 3-5 glaives that are unlocked in low rank. Unfortunately, pretty much all of the glaives are unlocked later on in high rank and in G rank. Just be patient; you'll get there eventually. (Btw it's cool that you're using more than one type of weapon. I really need to start mastering other things...)
Jett Alquiza Thanks for the reply! I recently found the blueprint for the Stealth Glaive, and it seems pretty nice. I've recently finished the Gore Magala on the ship quest and the Nerscylla in Harth quest, so how far would I have to get to the bottom of high rank?
If you just got the Nerscylla glaive, then the next one unlocked should be Gore Magala's, followed by Kirin I think. It's really easy to get the first high rank glaive, seeing as it's just Kecha Wacha. For the meantime, I suggest upgrading the glaives you have and to research the IG weapon trees so you can plan what you want to get in the future. Happy hunting! 😄
hey just a quick thing i think you missed: you can do side attacks similar to the long sword when you have the red juice. like this: A+A (and a direction) you can do vertical spinning slashes forward, left or right. really nice for dodging
Just started using IG, and when i press R+X, tried to send the bug out straight, it always mistaken in shooting pheromone bullet...am i doing anything wrong? =( thanks for anybody who can help me with this...
The only thing I'm confused about is the Kinsect itself; do certain armor skills affect it or not? Ex: Partbreaker, KO King, Stamina Thief, Weakness Exploit, etc.. Does none of this apply to the Kinsect, because that makes it seem really obsolete if it doesn't.
for me, grabbing all 3 colors is difficult on a few monsters, rathian included due to the fact that orange is annoying to get. when i do get it, it feels more so like random chance than the fact that i aimed at the body. Her wings get in the way and always give me green, her tail always gives red except at the very base of it, hey legs even at the top of them still give white and any higher i get green from the wings, and of course the head is always red. on some monsters this entire system feels a bit un-polished but i suppose thats just me. Already g-rank and this is still the only weapon i have problems with, and only when i try to triple up
srry i dont know where to put this but, im having slight trouble with silver rathalos. i dont die directly to his attacks but to fire and poison. when i heal one i get the other and eventually die to both. i killed him but it took two tries and i carted once the second and took 25 min. i dont understand his claw attack. sometimes he completely misses others he hones in on me across the map, attacks, then goes back like teleportation, sometimes i think i dodge it only to get hit later when he turns during the swipe to where i am. i used 17 mega 11 antidotes 4 whetstones 3 firstaid/+ both traps and 2 large barrel bombs+. tl:dr whats wrong with me?
How do you know where the hit boxes for the effects are on the monsters? I fought the Rathian a few times and got all three pretty quickly each time. But I just fought her again and spent about 15 minutes trying to get the orange effect. The game seems to think all of her under side is her legs, and why is her tail attack too? Is there really a skill to pin pointing it? I think the first few times was luck, because I think the hit boxes are very finicky. Can anyone help? :)
Hey gaijin, is there anyway to tell when your insect is tired and you cant send him out? A lot of times I press R+X and instead of sending the insect out, i just shoot the glaive and mark the target not knowing when I can shoot it again. Thanks
Question im hoping someone can answer. I got all of this down but since speed seems to be necessary over the other two stats. Does this mean we should be going for lighter armor sets when used with the glaive? Because i know alot of armor sets can be a huge slow down. At this point i only have full tatsucarba but im open for making more sets if i need too.
I have a question. I'm currently running a Magala Insect Glaive, and I'm currently in G-1 Rank (I do have a G. Magala Guild Quest). Do you think I should keep on using the Magala IG, or should I switch to a different IG? If so, what IG might you recommend?
Gaijin hunter... I have a Hard trial for u. Are u capable to make an IG build set to use element on kinsect? Everyone says it is a bad ideal, but, I've tried very Hard and canot make it... I love elements, and certainly desired one build like that, Just to test its efficacy. I'll be trying forever...
Joel Munoz Lol I just got it a little bit ago... I just could not get a kirin quest. Even when someone gave me one, it turned out to be Oroshi Kirin :P
Oh srry thought we weretalking the first 1 he used and the 1 for most of the vid witch I now know is the dalamadur 1 srry don't think I watchess to that point yet
Question about my kinsect. I really love the weapon but god the kinsect leveling is tedious. Should I bother focusing on making a 'perfect kinsect', or should I just make what I like until I rank up enough to bother? I'm Hunter Rank 4 btw. I really just want to just play but the optimal set ups are too important to pass up. All this information has given me a headache even, ugh.
+ChaosxPaladin Upgrade the Kinsect enough so you can upgrade the glaive to the next weapon, but don't worry too much about trying to make the perfect one each time, its far too expensive and like with every other weapon you'll either trade it out for a better one or upgrade it into a better one. Once you get into G-rank and such, then you can focus on making more specialized kinsects.
What's the strongest single hit for this weapon? Like, say I'm using a sleep glaive and I'm out of bombs, what should I hit the monster with? Or on the other hand, if I DO still have bombs, is shooting the charged bug at them the best/most damaging way to do it?
The strongest hit I believe is the charged up Kinsect attack, so long as it has sufficient points in Power. That's often the most recommended way to wake up a monster at least here in Japan. Bombs would be more powerful of course.
gaijin hunter Thanks, I've been trying to find info on that forever. I know bombs would do more damage, but I love me some sleep weapons haha so for hunts where I want to conserve my bombs a bit I just wanted to know which weapon attack would be the best one in their place. I was thinking it'd be that attack (because why would there even be a charge if it wasn't to wind up for for a high damage attack, it'd be kinda pointless otherwise) but all the info/players online seem to only talk about gathering buffs with the kinsect and pretty much ignore it as a source of damage
dont ever use this weapon but i want to learn cause i found a relic ig thats a metal mauler and looks great with my rajang armor set. stats are 713 atk, 310 drag, -20 affn with 5 edgemaster points. i thought it was pretty sweet but some guy with an hr over 500 said it was bad. is it? oh and i can still up grade it looks like affinity will go to -15 not sure if ill be able to upgrade again.
Nice guide once again, and i was wondering at last when we would be able to see your HB set. Now i do agree, it looks great, design-wise. :p What next? Dual Blades? Bow? HBG/LBG?
I think I might have missed a few things in the video (there was quite a lot being said afterall), so I have a some questions. What are the minimum stat pre-requisites to get the effect extender path (I think you said at least 96 in speed, but is that all that is required?)? You mentioned that each individual stat of the kinsect can have a maximum of 150 points, but what is the total maximum stats the kinsect can have when fully upgraded and fully fed? Also, I hear that the kinsect does very little damage to monsters, so is it even worth it to boost the attack power stat at all? Thank you for your help in advance.
You need 96 in all 3 stats when you level it up to level LV10, which is much harder than it sounds (th-cam.com/video/uQdXcphlhmc/w-d-xo.html). As for max total, I'm not sure to be honest, sorry. The Kinsect if it's a power type can do pretty decent damage especially for a charged shot so after speed, it's worth giving it some Power. Stamina, after all, is pretty much useless.
gaijin hunter Oh I see. Thanks for you reply. I checked out that other video you linked me, and now I have a couple more questions lol (sorry about that). Would a kinsect with the speed up skill and 150 points in speed be faster than a kinsect with just 150 points in speed or is 150 speed already the maximum possible speed it can have (basically, I just wanted to know if the speed skills stack with the maxed out 150 speed stat)? And I also noticed like 5 other stats (they were always at 0) below the main 3 (power, stamina, and speed), what are those other 5 stats and what do they do?
Rising Tempo I'm not sure about the first question but the second one about those other 5 stats, those are elemental damage which you shouldn't really care about.
to be more precise: it is possible to do X combo, then finishing with A- slam and then follow with forward x by poking. rinse and repeat. i find x,x,a so incredibly dull.
Akaji Blubb also i didnt understood how did you mark the monsters? sure, your not using the R- pheromone and only using r+x toi send the bug off in a straight line but how did you actually hit the head with only that? it really wasnt cleart at all in your video :(
Is this weapon even playable without a Circle Pad Pro or a New 3DS? I didn't get into range weapons at MH3U because of this and I have a hard time handling the kinsect at all in the demo.
I've been using it pretty successfully. The only part that I mess up is accidentally tapping R instead of holding it and sending out the pheromone instead of the kinsect.
got a quiestion! how shall i upgrade my kinsect after i reach G rank still going full speed and then something else or shall i start another path (like atk or res) and at the end max out speed? :) thx u!
But if they release this game in the west instead of an ultimate version, then won't there also be Japanese and Chinese players in addition to the Spanish and French players playing with us already? Three different languages is already enough, because this will lead to even less team cooperation.
I'm in high rank and need a good set of armor for my insect glaive, Is there a certain type I should get? Or Certain skills to aim for to help with the insect glaive
There is no certain armor set you really need for HR, I would say go velocidrome S its really easy to make, but if you want you can jump to Tetsu S and that can last you till G-rank, but you can go for double gore after that if you want or go Azule rathalos.
I love to have one weapon focused for each element, is it really out of the question here? Is the element focused insects really that bad? .. I'm gonna experiment either way :D
TailBit the elemental damge comes with the glaive u use,not with the kinsect,the problem with using elemtal nectars is,that u wont be able to boost up the standard stats much and that for a unimportant elemental effect^^
I didn't name my Bilbobrix anything, So I just call it Bilbo, but I have a deep connection with that kinsect, ahhhh, The many Elder Dragons I've brutally killed with Bilbo.. Of course I don't just save the love for my IG, me and Dear Hecatelia are in love!
can someone help me out, so far im still in low rank with my insect glaive which doesn't seem to have any other path other than the bone one...ive been only able to upgrade it twice then the other materials require high rank, i think... are there any other paths or will i be using my bone glaive until high?
i am high rank now and i think that there is just this way to upgrade the bone insect glaive. U should be able to get the nerscylla glaive when u killed her. The second glaive u can build is the one from the gore magala and it's kinda strong for low rank imo ^.^ i hope that answers your question :)
+Kabegami The Great the glaive he was using had blast on it, he does i believe two vids one on blast and another on special statuses. But yes the explosion was just a weapon element effect.
its a status, which is similar to element but different, status has a build up. once every three hits roughly there is a status proc and that proc is the build up once it was reached the monsters resistance the status will activate, in this case it's an explosion
The Charge blade and the IG are new weapons so they don't have that many different types to make, I personally just waited till I got the Gore and stuck with that until later on in HR when I unlocked some more.
So is it true that the bug is attached permanently to the staff? IE you can't put your fully upgraded bug on a new staff? Dang. This weapon seems like a lot of effort to use. :\
The elements are kinda important. They make youre bug do elemental dmg. Mine is currently thunder/fire. It very useful against monsters since you can make youre bug an element.
Yes it makes your bug to elemental dmg, but you are giving up more speed, power, and stamina to do it and thats no worth it. I much rather have a bug have more raw damage, and be faster then do fire damage with its attacks. I am not saying elemental bugs aren't bad, but people prefer there bugs to be more general with there damage rather then be specific with elemental dmg.
Nathalie Mykløy Each time you put a point in an element, that's a point you can't use for the primary 3 stats. The neutral nectars (+2 in only one stat) can be purchased rather cheaply from the wycoon, just need to wait until the one you want is available and stock up on it. Once you get to end-game, you'll have to completely remake the staff from scratch if you don't like the stats on your kinsect; there is no way to reset the points.
When you start the game, your chest contains a basic version of every weapon, including the insect glaive. You can also buy weapons from the arms seller (which is a *different* shop from The Man who crafts equipment from the materials you bring him). Later, as you find more materials, you'll be able to craft new ones.
***** i dont know if they have any IG videos but try dadsuke i found them by watching gaijins hammer tutorial and then he had an annotation that sent you to their video which is amazing so they probably did IG
Ciwen Gao no, you get the food randomly when you complete a quest or you can buy some at the Wycoon. I dont recommend buying it though, you need the caravan points
TL;DR version tutorial:
1. Throw bug
2. Juice up
3. Je Suis Monte!
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Y'know I fell in love with this weapon from the first time I used it. I love it's maneuverability and multitasking requirements.
Despite the kinsect not doing much damage, on more then one occasion my kinsect has gotten the killing blow on a monster which i find pretty hilarious
man i have sooo much fun with this weapon, being a LS (longsword) user, its got the range, but the speed of dual blades, its great. and them jumpy attacks are just phenomenal
Just wanted to say that I really appreciate your tutorial videos. I main with the Charge Blade and your tutorial was instrumental in getting the hang of it. It's well put together, and the visual aid along with the written commentary allows me to easily stop and examine what's going on. The text is very concise and you bring up nuances in the weapons that could easily be dismissed at a cursory glance.
Holy crap the music in the town is absolutely stunningly gorgeous. Leagues better to listen to than 3U's ports.
You should hear the music in towns like Carth, it's amazing. All the music is top notch this time around!
gaijin hunter It sounds much more atmospheric and less repetitive this time around, which is fantastic because you do spend a ton of time in the town while deciding what fight to do next or researching stuff.
This wasn't even on my wishlist for improvements in this game, but I am super excited to know its there and makes me want it to release over here even more!
gaijin hunter I have a quick question, Is it always the same kinsect or does it change with the insect glaive
Meerkat Rodeo If you haven't learned already (unlikely) you evolve your kinsect and can pick as you go.
James Rutter Yea I learnt that xD It can be a huge pain when you have an insect glaive for each element, espicially when it gets to g rank
700+ hours of playing IG and I thought I knew everything about it. I decided to watch this video just to see how well I had been self-taught. 1 min in and Gaijinhunter already has me feeling like a complete doofus - I HAD NO IDEA YOU COULD CHARGE UP THE KINSECT LAUNCH!
I would just like to add that draw attack can be done with X, you just have to be moving forward.
Thank you for this and for all your amazing tutorials!
A small note: The "marking shot" (R and aim) can be used to detonate bombs safely from a distance.
Awesome guide! Thanks very much. I had not bothered with the Insect Glaive ever because it sounded too complicated. I was giving it a go and not doing so well. Looked up this guide and it is such a strong/unique weapon! I've started a new game and I am doing great with it.
Amazingly useful guide. I'm going to try out the Glaive and the Charge Blade on the MH4U demo in anticipation of the game's release. Couldn't do it without your help, gaijin hunter!
One thing I would like to point out: the juiced air attack actually hits three times, not twice.
I've been using it without using the bug juice buff, I only recently found out the mixed juice buff during Shagaru Magala fight.
this weapon can actually end being pretty fucking overpowered at times once you get the hang of it. And i love it.
I just realizes you can get 2 different essences from Remobras...
I accidentally deleted my message trying to edit it. While holding R with the Glaive, a reticle comes up, and during that time you cannot evade, you can only shoot nectar or pole vault, so if you time it wrong you can leave yourself open to an attack. I found a way to cancel the reticle though, while holding R, press Start, let go of R, then press start again and you will cancel the nectar shot early. (This can be done almost instantly if you're quick enough) If anybody knows of a better method please let me know.
i just got into the glavie yesterday and now ik more on how it works and how im going to use it. thanks for this turorial. :)
absolutely fantastic video, helped me out 1000%, and you make things easy-to-understand, liked and subbed and recommended to friends
I don't know if someone else mentioned it already and I am absolutely no pro on kinsects (hit high rank some days ago but I use kinsect quite a bit)... but I think a high Stamina kinsect can be useful as well, not just speed. The kinsect will not always reach the target in time, especially true if you stand far away, but you can issue the attack command again and it will correct its flying path towards the marked target and with high stamina it you can command it a few times. But what I really love about a high stamina kinsect is, that you can send it through the monsters body multiple times before it runs out of stamina. Very useful if your kinsect has caught the wrong color, just let it fly through the enemy again, maybe it will have better luck now picking the right one. Also this makes much better use of the kinsects raw and elemental damage. You can let it do multiple hits. I usually do this up close to the monster, circling it while issuing the kinsect commands, till I have all colors I need. I had monster flinch from time to time just from kinsect hits, rarely even a kill by kinsect. :p
I can imagine that speed kinsects are much more efficient just for color gathering, but I have a lot of fun feeling that the kinsect does its part of the battle too. :)
But this is just the way I enjoy my kinsect right now and I just have very few glaives since I am still a newbie. I am curious to see a high power high stamina kinsect in much higher ranks.
actually a little fact that you got wrong: the glaive's aerial attack on red juice actually does 3 hits if you're high enough in the air.
thanks so much gaijin, after the tutorial mission for the glaive i was left with more questions than when i started, and put me off from using it. this vid was super helpful!
Many, many thanks for this guide man! I'm hoping to see one with some of the new features of the other weapons, especially the gunlance! Keep up the excellent work.
I started using the Galive more ofteb and I really like it a lot, specially since I upgraded my Gore Magala Glaive for a Shagaru Glaive, now I looking for stuff for eiteh Dios Rod or Fatalis Rod (My main weapon is still Gunlace though), but when I admit I havee more to leran about them, there are people who don´t even try. The other day I was playing with a Hunter named justing, and when fightimg he was just spaming the leap attack to mount mosters, no combos, no Kinsect, only leap and mount, he almost got fainted trhee time by a PINK RATHIAN! I decided to kick him because he was just next to useless while hunting.
There's just something so great and eccentric about this weapon, it's perfect for me.
I remember 12 year old me not knowing how to use the kinsect at all. I struggled so much until magala 😂
Several things the video didn't mention:
1. Press R during any combo to side swing with the other end of the glaive, this will mark the monster part it hits with bug pheromone. It also does impact damage rather than cut. Very useful for marking the head of a downed monster which will be a lot harder to hit for your kinsect normally, like the Fatalis. Downside is this move will end your combo as you can't chain any other move after other than rolling.
2. Gaijin says he wouldn't rely on the kinsect to do a hunter's job of dealing damage, which is not entirely true. When upgraded to max power, especially with Power Up (L), the kinsect can deal a surprising amount of damage. It's most effectively demonstrated with the PowerUp + StaminaUp kinsect upgrade path, which also comes with ChargeTime Down. Charging a kinsect only takes 1 second and it can down/break a monster at the most unexpected moment, not to mention that the kinsect can easily catch up with monsters fleeing or when the monster is too dangerous to approach.
3. I strongly favour impact kinsects over cut kinsects. Cut kinsects can cut monster tails, but of course requires precise handling. Impact kinsects, on the other hand, can KO a monster when hit repeatedly. This is again best demonstrated with the ChargeTime Down kinsect with PowerUp + StaminaUp (you can still upgrade the kinsect speed to max regardless of upgrade path). If you can successfully topple a monster, stand in front of its head and charge your kinsect into it repeatedly, it's almost guaranteed that you can KO it before it stands back up (depends on the monster ofc, some monsters are harder to KO).
4. If you've read my point 3, go get the Paralyzing Vine (Najarala glaive) and get the PowerUp + StaminaUp kinsect and do these: mount and topple a monster -> get red juice -> combo the downed monster till it paralyzes -> charge attack monster head -> KO monster. Which gives a big window for your teammates to output massive damage with their favourite weapon (GS players will hug you to death).
I feel like its worth noting that a damage based kinsect is not unviable, but it is going to require G rank materials to make, like the effect extender kinsect. Either way, just throw everything into speed until then, unless you 100% know exactly what you are doing.
Something interesting to note that i didnt see pointed out is if you send your kinsect to attack three times without calling it back it will do the drill charge it does when you charge it in your glaive for a while before letting it go
My favourite guides out there. Thanks a lot for your hardwork !
I'm currently preparing for MH4U release here in europe and planning to main IG. What would be a good IG route to avoid wasting time and ressources upgrading unneeded stuff (apart from the fact that you stack speed only till Grank) ?
In the beginning you said that there are 4 juices, but watching the video, there are only: red, white, and orange. What's the 4th one?
Sorry I never covered green. It recovers a very minute amount of hp. Not all monsters have a green part if I'm not mistaken
Yeah, in the demo I extracted green from a Kelbi. Probably only small, non-aggressive monsters that have it?
Buttered Funnybiscuit You can get it from some large monsters as well I recall getting it from Gore a couple of times in the demo.
Laharl Krichevskoy Yea, plus with a balance bug you get green (L) but idk how much it increases the health gain by.
So far as I've seen, a lot of large monsters have a green spot. I know Nerscylla has one and so does the Basarios. I think it's generally on their back though, so it can be tricky to get. I've hit green on accident a LOT on Nerscylla
There's no mention of this in the video, but the jump attack is capable of 3 hits, just... not sure how exactly. I get them every now and then on flying monsters if I jump up under them.
This video is worth the nearly 20 minutes. SO... MUCH... KNOWLEDGE
Just a minor correction; Glaive is not the only weapon for which the draw attack is the A attack. Switch Axe also does the A attack as its draw attack when drawing into axe mode.
Thanks for the note! I added an annotation ^^
gaijin hunter I'm not a native speaker. But I understand under the draw attack the unsheathing of the weapon with an attack at the same moment. But that's the X button, and not the A button, right?
I had been wondering how this weapon worked. Thanks a lot for the video, making me even more hyped for MH4U though. XD
Three questions:
1. What armor are you using?
2. What's a good high rank armor to use?
3. What do you think of Clockwork?
Your videos are really helpful. I'm very exited to finally use this weapon type myself once the game launches outside of japan.
HR 228 with lots of mixed sets and a deep knowledge of every weapon... except for Bug Staff, thanks for the upload, I tried learning on my own, but that upgrade screen is just to intimidating for me.
Hey, do you think you could cover some of the specifics of the kinsect, in terms of what the upgrade paths' different special skills will do? Also, being able to understand some of the damage/KO values and that sort of thing would be greatly appreciated.
I know it's really not sensible to worry too much about the kinsect's damage, but hey - knowledge is power, right? I thirst for the knowledge.
I'll specify that I'm just sort of generally interested in how to calculate kinsect damage (presumably based on power rating) and how much KO damage it can do and how effective things like Extract Efficacy Up are and what the "Affinity Up" part of "Extract Extend & Affinity Up" actually does.
So the kinsect is need to be upgraded in every glaive? that sounds like a ton of bug meal and items to upgrade if you want to have 4 or 5 of them :S
It reminds me of how Bowguns used to have to be leveled up to rank 5 and didnt change into other bowguns.
Nope, your kindest pal stays the same, mines a beetle :)
MC kraken no every glaive has its own kinsect
Yea my game Glitched out when I got a new glaive, having the same upgrades as the previous one, but the next time I went to upgrade it it was back to normal.
MC kraken Mine will always be Dragon Flies. "More juice NOW!"
When do you start to be able to forge new Glaives? I used the starting one for a bit in the beginning, but then I switched over to the Long Sword because the upgrade path for the Glaive didn't seem to be going anywhere.
Ah, I remember asking the same question myself! If I remember quickly, there's only 3-5 glaives that are unlocked in low rank. Unfortunately, pretty much all of the glaives are unlocked later on in high rank and in G rank. Just be patient; you'll get there eventually. (Btw it's cool that you're using more than one type of weapon. I really need to start mastering other things...)
Jett Alquiza Thanks for the reply! I recently found the blueprint for the Stealth Glaive, and it seems pretty nice. I've recently finished the Gore Magala on the ship quest and the Nerscylla in Harth quest, so how far would I have to get to the bottom of high rank?
If you just got the Nerscylla glaive, then the next one unlocked should be Gore Magala's, followed by Kirin I think. It's really easy to get the first high rank glaive, seeing as it's just Kecha Wacha. For the meantime, I suggest upgrading the glaives you have and to research the IG weapon trees so you can plan what you want to get in the future. Happy hunting! 😄
Oh the good old days
hey just a quick thing i think you missed: you can do side attacks similar to the long sword when you have the red juice.
like this: A+A (and a direction)
you can do vertical spinning slashes forward, left or right. really nice for dodging
This guide was just AWESOME ! Now I just can't wait to use it ^^
Your tutorials are the best!
Just started using IG, and when i press R+X, tried to send the bug out straight, it always mistaken in shooting pheromone bullet...am i doing anything wrong? =( thanks for anybody who can help me with this...
The only thing I'm confused about is the Kinsect itself; do certain armor skills affect it or not? Ex: Partbreaker, KO King, Stamina Thief, Weakness Exploit, etc..
Does none of this apply to the Kinsect, because that makes it seem really obsolete if it doesn't.
Your tutorials are super coherent and informative. Keep it up!
Wait, "Once you evolve a kinsect it starts to gain skills like boosted speed, stamina, and
SPEED. Does that mean no power bonuses?
for me, grabbing all 3 colors is difficult on a few monsters, rathian included due to the fact that orange is annoying to get. when i do get it, it feels more so like random chance than the fact that i aimed at the body. Her wings get in the way and always give me green, her tail always gives red except at the very base of it, hey legs even at the top of them still give white and any higher i get green from the wings, and of course the head is always red. on some monsters this entire system feels a bit un-polished but i suppose thats just me. Already g-rank and this is still the only weapon i have problems with, and only when i try to triple up
srry i dont know where to put this but, im having slight trouble with silver rathalos. i dont die directly to his attacks but to fire and poison. when i heal one i get the other and eventually die to both. i killed him but it took two tries and i carted once the second and took 25 min. i dont understand his claw attack. sometimes he completely misses others he hones in on me across the map, attacks, then goes back like teleportation, sometimes i think i dodge it only to get hit later when he turns during the swipe to where i am. i used 17 mega 11 antidotes 4 whetstones 3 firstaid/+ both traps and 2 large barrel bombs+.
tl:dr whats wrong with me?
How do you know where the hit boxes for the effects are on the monsters?
I fought the Rathian a few times and got all three pretty quickly each time.
But I just fought her again and spent about 15 minutes trying to get the orange effect. The game seems to think all of her under side is her legs, and why is her tail attack too?
Is there really a skill to pin pointing it? I think the first few times was luck, because I think the hit boxes are very finicky.
Can anyone help? :)
Hey gaijin, is there anyway to tell when your insect is tired and you cant send him out? A lot of times I press R+X and instead of sending the insect out, i just shoot the glaive and mark the target not knowing when I can shoot it again.
Thanks
I didn't know that I could grab color from dead monster!!! Thanks for this point!!
Question im hoping someone can answer. I got all of this down but since speed seems to be necessary over the other two stats. Does this mean we should be going for lighter armor sets when used with the glaive? Because i know alot of armor sets can be a huge slow down. At this point i only have full tatsucarba but im open for making more sets if i need too.
I have a question. I'm currently running a Magala Insect Glaive, and I'm currently in G-1 Rank (I do have a G. Magala Guild Quest). Do you think I should keep on using the Magala IG, or should I switch to a different IG? If so, what IG might you recommend?
If the kinsect is weak, why are we bothering to charge it to do wakeups?
Gaijin hunter... I have a Hard trial for u. Are u capable to make an IG build set to use element on kinsect? Everyone says it is a bad ideal, but, I've tried very Hard and canot make it... I love elements, and certainly desired one build like that, Just to test its efficacy. I'll be trying forever...
13:11 what glaive is that? I'm g1 and i dont have that as an option. Not that I would want a rare 4 weapon, but still.
DethHydra kirin insect glaive
Joel Munoz ik this is a dead thing by now but prettu sure that is a scylla seeing how its red and white and looks nothing like my glave
Xder Rodecki nah at 13:11 thats totally the kirin glaive
Joel Munoz Lol I just got it a little bit ago... I just could not get a kirin quest. Even when someone gave me one, it turned out to be Oroshi Kirin :P
Oh srry thought we weretalking the first 1 he used and the 1 for most of the vid witch I now know is the dalamadur 1 srry don't think I watchess to that point yet
Is there any reason to use the 3rd string of the X > X > X combo or just spam the infinite combo?
Can you tell me the name of the 1st glaive u were using and the last one? Which monsters gave u the materials?
Question about my kinsect. I really love the weapon but god the kinsect leveling is tedious. Should I bother focusing on making a 'perfect kinsect', or should I just make what I like until I rank up enough to bother? I'm Hunter Rank 4 btw. I really just want to just play but the optimal set ups are too important to pass up. All this information has given me a headache even, ugh.
+ChaosxPaladin Upgrade the Kinsect enough so you can upgrade the glaive to the next weapon, but don't worry too much about trying to make the perfect one each time, its far too expensive and like with every other weapon you'll either trade it out for a better one or upgrade it into a better one. Once you get into G-rank and such, then you can focus on making more specialized kinsects.
What's the strongest single hit for this weapon? Like, say I'm using a sleep glaive and I'm out of bombs, what should I hit the monster with? Or on the other hand, if I DO still have bombs, is shooting the charged bug at them the best/most damaging way to do it?
The strongest hit I believe is the charged up Kinsect attack, so long as it has sufficient points in Power. That's often the most recommended way to wake up a monster at least here in Japan. Bombs would be more powerful of course.
gaijin hunter Thanks, I've been trying to find info on that forever. I know bombs would do more damage, but I love me some sleep weapons haha so for hunts where I want to conserve my bombs a bit I just wanted to know which weapon attack would be the best one in their place. I was thinking it'd be that attack (because why would there even be a charge if it wasn't to wind up for for a high damage attack, it'd be kinda pointless otherwise) but all the info/players online seem to only talk about gathering buffs with the kinsect and pretty much ignore it as a source of damage
And that green buff too, but I guess that's because the heal is too small to even bother looking for
How can I get Brown buff easilly? Is a real pain in the back to get that buff, but it can be something I'm doing wrong so please some help.
target a monsters belly and back, these parts mostly have it
dont ever use this weapon but i want to learn cause i found a relic ig thats a metal mauler and looks great with my rajang armor set. stats are 713 atk, 310 drag, -20 affn with 5 edgemaster points. i thought it was pretty sweet but some guy with an hr over 500 said it was bad. is it? oh and i can still up grade it looks like affinity will go to -15 not sure if ill be able to upgrade again.
Nice guide once again, and i was wondering at last when we would be able to see your HB set. Now i do agree, it looks great, design-wise. :p
What next? Dual Blades? Bow? HBG/LBG?
Is there some pro with the insect glaive like Chris with CB or Efenbaum with hammer, etc?
I think I might have missed a few things in the video (there was quite a lot being said afterall), so I have a some questions. What are the minimum stat pre-requisites to get the effect extender path (I think you said at least 96 in speed, but is that all that is required?)? You mentioned that each individual stat of the kinsect can have a maximum of 150 points, but what is the total maximum stats the kinsect can have when fully upgraded and fully fed? Also, I hear that the kinsect does very little damage to monsters, so is it even worth it to boost the attack power stat at all? Thank you for your help in advance.
You need 96 in all 3 stats when you level it up to level LV10, which is much harder than it sounds (th-cam.com/video/uQdXcphlhmc/w-d-xo.html). As for max total, I'm not sure to be honest, sorry. The Kinsect if it's a power type can do pretty decent damage especially for a charged shot so after speed, it's worth giving it some Power. Stamina, after all, is pretty much useless.
gaijin hunter Oh I see. Thanks for you reply. I checked out that other video you linked me, and now I have a couple more questions lol (sorry about that). Would a kinsect with the speed up skill and 150 points in speed be faster than a kinsect with just 150 points in speed or is 150 speed already the maximum possible speed it can have (basically, I just wanted to know if the speed skills stack with the maxed out 150 speed stat)? And I also noticed like 5 other stats (they were always at 0) below the main 3 (power, stamina, and speed), what are those other 5 stats and what do they do?
Rising Tempo I'm not sure about the first question but the second one about those other 5 stats, those are elemental damage which you shouldn't really care about.
hey Gajin hunter, what are the best glaives in the game or can any glaive be awesome if you upgrade the bug right?
good video, but why is X,X,A the main combo? i can chain other infinite combos too (mh4u demo as of today)
to be more precise: it is possible to do X combo, then finishing with A- slam and then follow with forward x by poking. rinse and repeat. i find x,x,a so incredibly dull.
Akaji Blubb also i didnt understood how did you mark the monsters? sure, your not using the R- pheromone and only using r+x toi send the bug off in a straight line but how did you actually hit the head with only that? it really wasnt cleart at all in your video :(
Akaji Blubb also do you use the CCP? is this staff playable without it?
I don't use marking I just aim well ^^
gaijin hunter but how do you aim? holding R and then with cpp aiming for the head? what about my mentioned combos? why is it X,X,A?
Is this weapon even playable without a Circle Pad Pro or a New 3DS?
I didn't get into range weapons at MH3U because of this and I have a hard time handling the kinsect at all in the demo.
I've been using it pretty successfully. The only part that I mess up is accidentally tapping R instead of holding it and sending out the pheromone instead of the kinsect.
nice guide, i just have a question;
how did you get the dara sub staff? i thought Grank dara parts were not available yet
You can make the dalamadur sub staff, we are waiting for G rank regular Dala though so you cannot complete it yet.
gaijin hunter Wait, so G-rank subspecies is already in the game, but G-rank regular is coming from DLC, I assume? That's so strange.
Derek Cox I know, bizzare isn't it?
Hey Gaijin,
when the U.S version comes out can you translate the bug or show us how to get it too?
Which glaive are you using in this video? It looks cool and I want it
got a quiestion! how shall i upgrade my kinsect after i reach G rank still going full speed and then something else or shall i start another path (like atk or res) and at the end max out speed? :) thx u!
I don't get it, Does the kinsect keep its level if you change insect glaive or is it more complicated?
But if they release this game in the west instead of an ultimate version, then won't there also be Japanese and Chinese players in addition to the Spanish and French players playing with us already? Three different languages is already enough, because this will lead to even less team cooperation.
i don't press R+X+A to make the bug come back only R+A
I'm in high rank and need a good set of armor for my insect glaive, Is there a certain type I should get? Or Certain skills to aim for to help with the insect glaive
There is no certain armor set you really need for HR, I would say go velocidrome S its really easy to make, but if you want you can jump to Tetsu S and that can last you till G-rank, but you can go for double gore after that if you want or go Azule rathalos.
Rogue Cheney Thanks man!
Roflcopter Whishwhishwhish NP.
I love to have one weapon focused for each element, is it really out of the question here? Is the element focused insects really that bad? .. I'm gonna experiment either way :D
TailBit the elemental damge comes with the glaive u use,not with the kinsect,the problem with using elemtal nectars is,that u wont be able to boost up the standard stats much and that for a unimportant elemental effect^^
Does anyone else have a sentimental attachment to their
Kinsect?
My Bilbobrix on my Hazy Caster's (Chameleos Glaive) name is Airyx (///▽///)
I was originally gonna name her Brixy, but then I thought, since she has 150 speed, why not combine her name with air (fast) and thus Airyx XD
Cyan Azurae Im not very good at names but sometimes I imagine my kinsect is voiced by Patrick Warburton
***** AHAHAHHAHA
I didn't name my Bilbobrix anything, So I just call it Bilbo, but I have a deep connection with that kinsect, ahhhh, The many Elder Dragons I've brutally killed with Bilbo..
Of course I don't just save the love for my IG, me and Dear Hecatelia are in love!
My first 'sect was named, and I quote off a post-it note, is bob the big bad beetle who beats up bigger badder beasts.
can someone help me out, so far im still in low rank with my insect glaive which doesn't seem to have any other path other than the bone one...ive been only able to upgrade it twice then the other materials require high rank, i think... are there any other paths or will i be using my bone glaive until high?
i am high rank now and i think that there is just this way to upgrade the bone insect glaive. U should be able to get the nerscylla glaive when u killed her. The second glaive u can build is the one from the gore magala and it's kinda strong for low rank imo ^.^ i hope that answers your question :)
Hendrik Loth ok thank you very much
No problem, I'm glad that I could help you :)
I'm using the gore insect glaive that thing is beastly looking.
It sure is ^^
How do you do that forward roll and uppercut=explosion? Is it just a weapon element effect?
+Kabegami The Great the glaive he was using had blast on it, he does i believe two vids one on blast and another on special statuses. But yes the explosion was just a weapon element effect.
XMrCoolWhipX so its not a special combo exclusive to that glaive?
+Kabegami The Great nope
XMrCoolWhipX is blast an element or?
its a status, which is similar to element but different, status has a build up. once every three hits roughly there is a status proc and that proc is the build up once it was reached the monsters resistance the status will activate, in this case it's an explosion
So, should I get Kushala IG, or should I wait till Chameleos, or maybe even Crimson Fatalis?
Alex Bjelich id go with any IG with cutting then get the crimson fatty cause blast is awesome
+Delta Astrea i approve, HRG Omen best besides Hazy Caster imo
Every day I learn some new moves from your tutorial XD
would love to use this weapon but i'm just too comfortable with great sword and lazy to learn it
So I have a bone kinsey only. Do I upgrade it and feed it then I get new glaives?
Just upgrade it, full speed, u will see new ones later on
The Charge blade and the IG are new weapons so they don't have that many different types to make, I personally just waited till I got the Gore and stuck with that until later on in HR when I unlocked some more.
I see why this and the charge blade are so OP. It's because they require so much work.
Way too much work.
So is it true that the bug is attached permanently to the staff? IE you can't put your fully upgraded bug on a new staff?
Dang. This weapon seems like a lot of effort to use. :\
The elements are kinda important. They make youre bug do elemental dmg. Mine is currently thunder/fire. It very useful against monsters since you can make youre bug an element.
Yes it makes your bug to elemental dmg, but you are giving up more speed, power, and stamina to do it and thats no worth it. I much rather have a bug have more raw damage, and be faster then do fire damage with its attacks. I am not saying elemental bugs aren't bad, but people prefer there bugs to be more general with there damage rather then be specific with elemental dmg.
yeah, i have not nearly enough resousrces to make the super kinsect so ill just use the nectar i feel are needed.
Nathalie Mykløy Each time you put a point in an element, that's a point you can't use for the primary 3 stats. The neutral nectars (+2 in only one stat) can be purchased rather cheaply from the wycoon, just need to wait until the one you want is available and stock up on it. Once you get to end-game, you'll have to completely remake the staff from scratch if you don't like the stats on your kinsect; there is no way to reset the points.
can someone link me on how to get this weapon? I'm new to this and have found nothing.
When you start the game, your chest contains a basic version of every weapon, including the insect glaive. You can also buy weapons from the arms seller (which is a *different* shop from The Man who crafts equipment from the materials you bring him). Later, as you find more materials, you'll be able to craft new ones.
Quick question, what version of the 3DS do you play on?
Hi,
is the Insect Glaive an element weapon or a row damage weapon?
Thanks
If red essences are the best, can you just get 3 reds and just ignore the other colors?
They don't stack. Each consecutive red will just reset timer, making it last longer.
Each color has a specific slot so red can only take up one spot. If you get white/orange it boosts the effects of red as well.
they should make a kinsect game for kinnect
You're doing great work, this is awesome.
うぽつです！
What's his weapon called I can't find it on the wiki
Cool video! What are some good 'pro' glaive players that I can watch on youtube? I really want to see if I can learn more from their gameplay style.
***** i dont know if they have any IG videos but try dadsuke i found them by watching gaijins hammer tutorial and then he had an annotation that sent you to their video which is amazing so they probably did IG
Delta Astrea Alrighty, I'll see if I check em out.
***** k glad i could help (if he has one but if not sorry)
I main the insect glaive, AND I NEVER KNEW ABOUT THAT BUSTED INFINITE. Also I never knew about marking
Cephalos are small Monsters too, but they'll give alle 3 juices.
question here.. do i need to lv up the kinsect all over again if I want to make a new glaive?
Yes the kinsect belongs to that specific Glaive
gaijin hunter thanks. 1 more though, do you have a specific place to farm nectar? attributes nectar.. Speed, Power, Stamina..
Ciwen Gao no, you get the food randomly when you complete a quest or you can buy some at the Wycoon. I dont recommend buying it though, you need the caravan points
imacookie12 i just bought from wycoon.. lol..
99 power, 99 stamina, 198 speed.. no need to worry for a few glaive I want to make for now.. :D
what HR are you? im Hr 3 and i dont have the speed or power