This is a really cool series idea. Some things I thought of with this. If Splash had burst zip then Stamper may have never gotten the same kit which would drastically change a lot. If Crab was still good enough to be meta dualie and suction would be the target of nerfs, 45% bursts could possibly still be a thing drastically buffing every burst weapon. Dualie would prolly not get its 4 frame buff and end up a weaker class instead. As a side note maybe fizzy wail was changed because of how annoying the multi fizzy and wail combo would be for displacement, the instant refill would make its zones flips with old fizzy very strong while having a special close to old missiles that people hated.
i like the idea for this series! the changes in splatoon's development have always fascinated me and it's fun to look into how things could've gone differently
@@weewoo3023 I'm generally disappointed with splatoon 3's kits. no thirds kits, and a lack of creativity or consideration for the viability for a majority of the 2nd kits for many weapons.
@@sonicrunn3r895Most shooters are paint bots to spam a special, new weapons got kits with awful specials like reefslider while the meta ones always got the best thing possible, like how they made a backline with crab and splatbomb
@@guillermocervisalmeron2209 Oh boo hoo, a weapon gets a good kit and you still find ways to be mad. Maybe if you actually got good with the weapons in spite of their specials then you’d find a way to actually enjoy things. But I guess unless specifically your weapon gets torpedo and ruins everyone else’s fun of the game you’re not able to have fun, what a shame
@@sonicrunn3r895 Fun? Not if it's Neo Sploosh. I'm a long time sploosh fan, and that has to be the sorriest and lamest excuse for a sploosh kit in forever. I've never felt something this lacking in fun in a long time. You know what they could've brought back? Point + kraken, Splat bomb + zooka. Even if these kits weren't great competitive wise, they still would've been way more fun than what we ended up getting.
Great video! Really love the idea behind this series, hope you keep it going for a while. An idea for a What If scenario that interests me would be a “What if Trizooka never got its buffs?”. Curious to imagine how the staple cooler meta would function without it.
This was such an interesting video! Some what ifs I would love to see would be what if Splatoon 3 only had two idols and what if they never changed tricolor and always had the halftime winners defend
if splash zip existed instead of splash crab the meta would've been quad Vdualies or triple Vdualies + machine, 2 of them running QR builds and the other 2 running SCU builds, this might sound insane but that's how the early days of S3 would've been and the reason is that crab in the early days was soo good that there weren't really strong counters to it and the only tactic available was to spam crab tank, if splash didn't exist we would've faced stunction spam along side crab spam
Imagine an Undercover Brella with Ink Mines, Zipcaster, and then paired with a Ninja Squid kit. The thing I loved in Splatoon 2 about maining the Undercover Brella was being a stealth cryptid who could invisibly slip past people and repeatedly leave invisible bombs in key inconvenient places and messing with their heads. now imagine that, but with the ability to get just about anywhere quickly like the Zipcaster offers!😅
Since you mainly talked about splash and machine as having really good kit synergy made up up by three strong parts, I think it’d be cool to talk about weapons with really good kit synergy but fails do to some parts of its kit just being underpowered. Just like pencil on launch. The wellstrings come to mind first with their specials being bad but have good synergy. I’m biased but swig express is one of the best kits for it but isn’t good do to the main and sub being underpowered.
Not gonna lie I'm kinda happy we got this timeline partially because it resulted in burst bomb and fizzy bombs respective nerfs (burst 45%, the fizzy white ink frames and LDE nerf). It's fun to look at the what ifs and the what could've beens but I'm happy to live in the moment ultimately.
I think Sloshing Machine recieving a strong kit and getting nerfed thanks to it was a good thing overall. The main had too much overlap with Slosher and generally outclassed it in every way when they had nearly the same fire rate, now they have a similar dynamic to .52 and NZap- one is focused on power while the other is focused on mobility. Getting its inking nerfed also brought it in line with Slosher and the blasters that greatly struggle with inking.
Ok Gus I have a what if What if CDS got misslis Or What if vds got splat bomb and ink storm would it have been meta in s3 thanks if you see this great vid btw
Hey that's me. I'm not as sure Crab wouldn't have been meta without Splash having it, if only because vDualies was always that weapon that should be really good, but is undermined by Splash existing. Thinking in reverse, I've long suspected that part of the reason Stamper got that 30% efficiency nerf way back was mainly to stop Stamper from being a base painter. Even though we know the nerf was warranted now given how strong Stamper still is, I'm not sure if Stamper would have been hit that hard if it had a different special.
Really interesting video, and I love the intro. It never occurred to me that the Splash and Machine kits would have replaced their vanilla ones. I always thought they'd just be alts instead, for some reason. This video made me realize that Splash Crab and Booyah Mahine almost never happened, and my god what a bomb to drop. Second bomb was the Stringer kit, I never knew about that. Man, Splat Bomb Trizooka changed to Toxic Mist Killer Wail? ...do you think the devs switched subs and specials around? Tri-Stringer got Mahcine's Wail, and maybe Splash's Mist? Splash has had Mist before, and I'm not sure how good a Mist Zipcaster kit would have fared in comparison to Crab. So which weapon did the Splat Bomb and Zooka go to?
Splat Bomb & Trizooka went to Clash Blaster. In the 2nd trailer for S3, Clash was seen with crab tank. There a couple of beta kits that were switched up. Even things from the direct, which I show in this video, undercover as ink Storm & it was changed by launch.
Here's an interesting idea: What if Splatoon 3 never got any new main weapons? Pencil and Edit are the two most dominant cooler weapons, so I would imagine it would be some form of Nzap meta, but would the midrange meta we have now have even happened? Also, I think its so weird that Crab was originally mostly the color of the opposing team, every time I see that trailer it bugs me.
I wish. I don't think Zipcaster would be the hardest special to use if it were on a Shooter. Shooters are the basics, so they help when learning new specials, I think.
They made Splatoon 3 more chaotic and to me it feels much more fast paced than previous games. Illogically they made bubble a stationary special. So I wonder... what if there was Bubbler or Baller in splatoon 3?
I say it just in case to avoid the: “Actually, it’s not killer wail. Killer wail is from Splatoon 1. That’s Killer Wail 5.1 🤓” One person was pressed that I said machine Neo has zooka because I didn’t specify inkzooka or trizooka.
What if Hammers Hitboxes worked at the start of the game (not that they work now but they were a lot worse before) would weapons like vWiper be top tier? Would L3d be viable??
if splash kept zip scorch gorge and elltail would actually be solid maps. lol jokes aside... now that neo splash is getting popular... this is actually a bigger question now. i hope we get a third kit for splash that will finally feature zip caster. however i don't think that zip would actually be viable for splash in comp. we got squiffer zip caster and still even if that gun is amazing with zip is still not really viable...
I think you're likely wrong that crab meta wouldnt exist. Instead of the meta being too slow for dualies, dualies would *be* the early meta as the best crab weapon. The meta would certainly be different with dualies over Splash and without burst bomb I dont think double crab would be as viable. A very interesting possibility Excellent video concept and execution though! Well met!
Splash with Zipcaster would have been better overall since we got burst and crab it wasn't that useful but if it kept burst and zipcaster it would have been better, machine with fizzy and killer wail 5.1 is better (half) Undercover Brella would have been better with Ink Storm, Its Ink Mine and Inkstorm would have been better than Ink Mine and Reefslider
I have a what if thats pretty far fetched, what if splatoon 3 didn’t do seasonal updates? What if instead it went with splatoon 1’s update model instead and had a slow burn of kits released with a new map every month? I’d figure that the launch weapons would be all of the weapons we saw in the trailers as well along with splatana stamper since thats the only splatana in alterna. How would that have impacted the game and its meta?
What if the old beta map layouts and map design decisions didn't get butchered in the final release? The game would be 20x better, and nobody even thinks about complaining about the seasonal structure because the new maps are so fire
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This is a really cool series idea. Some things I thought of with this.
If Splash had burst zip then Stamper may have never gotten the same kit which would drastically change a lot.
If Crab was still good enough to be meta dualie and suction would be the target of nerfs, 45% bursts could possibly still be a thing drastically buffing every burst weapon. Dualie would prolly not get its 4 frame buff and end up a weaker class instead.
As a side note maybe fizzy wail was changed because of how annoying the multi fizzy and wail combo would be for displacement, the instant refill would make its zones flips with old fizzy very strong while having a special close to old missiles that people hated.
Slosher studios is crazy
Studios is off center 😢
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i like the idea for this series! the changes in splatoon's development have always fascinated me and it's fun to look into how things could've gone differently
I wonder if pencil would still become meta in a timeline where missiles were never nerfed
Not Pencil but Edit maybe
Zip on splash couldve been a really nice entry weapon for the already difficult special. But noooo we got ttek part 2.
@@weewoo3023 I'm generally disappointed with splatoon 3's kits. no thirds kits, and a lack of creativity or consideration for the viability for a majority of the 2nd kits for many weapons.
@@VGF80 Hey, at least they're fun though.
@@sonicrunn3r895Most shooters are paint bots to spam a special, new weapons got kits with awful specials like reefslider while the meta ones always got the best thing possible, like how they made a backline with crab and splatbomb
@@guillermocervisalmeron2209 Oh boo hoo, a weapon gets a good kit and you still find ways to be mad. Maybe if you actually got good with the weapons in spite of their specials then you’d find a way to actually enjoy things. But I guess unless specifically your weapon gets torpedo and ruins everyone else’s fun of the game you’re not able to have fun, what a shame
@@sonicrunn3r895 Fun? Not if it's Neo Sploosh. I'm a long time sploosh fan, and that has to be the sorriest and lamest excuse for a sploosh kit in forever. I've never felt something this lacking in fun in a long time.
You know what they could've brought back? Point + kraken, Splat bomb + zooka. Even if these kits weren't great competitive wise, they still would've been way more fun than what we ended up getting.
Good video!
Great video! Really love the idea behind this series, hope you keep it going for a while.
An idea for a What If scenario that interests me would be a “What if Trizooka never got its buffs?”. Curious to imagine how the staple cooler meta would function without it.
If 3rd kits return and all weapons get one I really hope that splash-o-matic 9 (a sheldon's pick variant) gets zip :D
what would happen if they switched Vanilla Wiper and Stamper’s specials?
Haha this is great, that intro is 🔥
Love this concept, can’t wait to see more. Maybe do a What if Concept on how MPU in Splatoon 2 changed Splatoon 3
Just a thought, what if sword and splash were swapped last minute
This was great!
That marvel what if intro is crazy
This was such an interesting video! Some what ifs I would love to see would be what if Splatoon 3 only had two idols and what if they never changed tricolor and always had the halftime winners defend
if splash zip existed instead of splash crab the meta would've been quad Vdualies or triple Vdualies + machine, 2 of them running QR builds and the other 2 running SCU builds, this might sound insane but that's how the early days of S3 would've been and the reason is that crab in the early days was soo good that there weren't really strong counters to it and the only tactic available was to spam crab tank, if splash didn't exist we would've faced stunction spam along side crab spam
Imagine an Undercover Brella with Ink Mines, Zipcaster, and then paired with a Ninja Squid kit.
The thing I loved in Splatoon 2 about maining the Undercover Brella was being a stealth cryptid who could invisibly slip past people and repeatedly leave invisible bombs in key inconvenient places and messing with their heads.
now imagine that, but with the ability to get just about anywhere quickly like the Zipcaster offers!😅
Since you mainly talked about splash and machine as having really good kit synergy made up up by three strong parts, I think it’d be cool to talk about weapons with really good kit synergy but fails do to some parts of its kit just being underpowered. Just like pencil on launch.
The wellstrings come to mind first with their specials being bad but have good synergy. I’m biased but swig express is one of the best kits for it but isn’t good do to the main and sub being underpowered.
Another good example is the vanilla clash. Amazing kit synergy but a horrible main.
@@GUSplatooncan’t believe I forgot that one. It’s kit is probably one of the best for anything
Not gonna lie I'm kinda happy we got this timeline partially because it resulted in burst bomb and fizzy bombs respective nerfs (burst 45%, the fizzy white ink frames and LDE nerf). It's fun to look at the what ifs and the what could've beens but I'm happy to live in the moment ultimately.
I think Sloshing Machine recieving a strong kit and getting nerfed thanks to it was a good thing overall. The main had too much overlap with Slosher and generally outclassed it in every way when they had nearly the same fire rate, now they have a similar dynamic to .52 and NZap- one is focused on power while the other is focused on mobility. Getting its inking nerfed also brought it in line with Slosher and the blasters that greatly struggle with inking.
It's like we never get a fully developed game until it's over
I find it interesting how they literally just gave splashes original kit to stamp, I wonder what stamp would get had splash gotten zip and burst bomb
Ok Gus I have a what if
What if CDS got misslis
Or
What if vds got splat bomb and ink storm would it have been meta in s3 thanks if you see this great vid btw
they would probably not be meta because there's no MPU
We need a million episodes for this
Hey that's me.
I'm not as sure Crab wouldn't have been meta without Splash having it, if only because vDualies was always that weapon that should be really good, but is undermined by Splash existing.
Thinking in reverse, I've long suspected that part of the reason Stamper got that 30% efficiency nerf way back was mainly to stop Stamper from being a base painter. Even though we know the nerf was warranted now given how strong Stamper still is, I'm not sure if Stamper would have been hit that hard if it had a different special.
This is awesome please make a part 2
I wonder if there's a timeline where tri stringer had Zipcaster
What if neo Sploosh had point + kraken or splat bomb + zooka instead of whatever poor excuse for a kit it ended up getting.
Ain't those Heavy Splatling deco and vanilla Clash?
@@AnotherTrixieFan repeat kits eg. Mini and L-3 D aren't unheard of but sssshhhhhhh
@@lies_zip_80085 Mini and L3D are a particularly egregious case, because the mains are so similar.
Idea: What if Missiles did not get a cooldown?
Really interesting video, and I love the intro. It never occurred to me that the Splash and Machine kits would have replaced their vanilla ones. I always thought they'd just be alts instead, for some reason. This video made me realize that Splash Crab and Booyah Mahine almost never happened, and my god what a bomb to drop. Second bomb was the Stringer kit, I never knew about that. Man, Splat Bomb Trizooka changed to Toxic Mist Killer Wail? ...do you think the devs switched subs and specials around? Tri-Stringer got Mahcine's Wail, and maybe Splash's Mist? Splash has had Mist before, and I'm not sure how good a Mist Zipcaster kit would have fared in comparison to Crab.
So which weapon did the Splat Bomb and Zooka go to?
Splat Bomb & Trizooka went to Clash Blaster.
In the 2nd trailer for S3, Clash was seen with crab tank.
There a couple of beta kits that were switched up. Even things from the direct, which I show in this video, undercover as ink Storm & it was changed by launch.
Here's an interesting idea: What if Splatoon 3 never got any new main weapons? Pencil and Edit are the two most dominant cooler weapons, so I would imagine it would be some form of Nzap meta, but would the midrange meta we have now have even happened?
Also, I think its so weird that Crab was originally mostly the color of the opposing team, every time I see that trailer it bugs me.
I actualy got a good what if scenario... what if Splatoon 3 Weapons... were just in splatsville... So just splatoon 3 Specials on The Weapons!
I wish. I don't think Zipcaster would be the hardest special to use if it were on a Shooter. Shooters are the basics, so they help when learning new specials, I think.
What if brella got the bug fix earlier b4 inkjet meta ended
awesome series, now what if the maps we’re open like in the beta
Next episode. What if we didn't wait a year+ for gold dynamo
I NEED MORE
what if scorch, eeltail and museum kept their designs in the trailer?
They made Splatoon 3 more chaotic and to me it feels much more fast paced than previous games. Illogically they made bubble a stationary special.
So I wonder... what if there was Bubbler or Baller in splatoon 3?
Honestly they should've kept bow's kit and charge hold
What if every weapon kept their S2 kits, including the S2 special?
What if enpery splat Dualies got ink jet. Glugas fizzy and most importantly!!! What if dread wringer d got the Kit announced on Twitter!
I forgot that killer wail has 5.1 in the name
I say it just in case to avoid the:
“Actually, it’s not killer wail. Killer wail is from Splatoon 1. That’s Killer Wail 5.1 🤓”
One person was pressed that I said machine Neo has zooka because I didn’t specify inkzooka or trizooka.
What if: Big swig didn’t get wall. And got burst bomb instead 😂😂
What if gold dynamo was released on time? 🤔
That would've been amazing for the game.
It would need burst bomb or it wouldnt be good tbh it wouldnt have anything to help it fight, maybe splat bomb
What if Missiles would have never got nerfed
What if Hammers Hitboxes worked at the start of the game (not that they work now but they were a lot worse before) would weapons like vWiper be top tier? Would L3d be viable??
Yup
pls do episode 2 about brellas
if splash kept zip scorch gorge and elltail would actually be solid maps. lol
jokes aside... now that neo splash is getting popular... this is actually a bigger question now. i hope we get a third kit for splash that will finally feature zip caster. however i don't think that zip would actually be viable for splash in comp. we got squiffer zip caster and still even if that gun is amazing with zip is still not really viable...
What if order won final fest?
What if team Order won?
Episode 2 when?
I think you're likely wrong that crab meta wouldnt exist. Instead of the meta being too slow for dualies, dualies would *be* the early meta as the best crab weapon. The meta would certainly be different with dualies over Splash and without burst bomb I dont think double crab would be as viable. A very interesting possibility
Excellent video concept and execution though! Well met!
Splash with Zipcaster would have been better overall since we got burst and crab it wasn't that useful but if it kept burst and zipcaster it would have been better, machine with fizzy and killer wail 5.1 is better (half) Undercover Brella would have been better with Ink Storm, Its Ink Mine and Inkstorm would have been better than Ink Mine and Reefslider
what if reeflux had incredibly bad paint but insane splatting potential
I have a what if thats pretty far fetched, what if splatoon 3 didn’t do seasonal updates? What if instead it went with splatoon 1’s update model instead and had a slow burn of kits released with a new map every month? I’d figure that the launch weapons would be all of the weapons we saw in the trailers as well along with splatana stamper since thats the only splatana in alterna. How would that have impacted the game and its meta?
What if the old beta map layouts and map design decisions didn't get butchered in the final release?
The game would be 20x better, and nobody even thinks about complaining about the seasonal structure because the new maps are so fire
NOW!!!!!
Make splatershot pro the zipcaster weapon instead of a paint bot Nintendo 😈
bro is not marvel
cool vid tho
What if inkjet never got nerfed