A MIXED BAG | Jujutsu Kaisen Season 2 Episode 7 Animation Breakdown
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The chase scene in the forest looks so good, it's really sad how badly affected it was by the ghosting.
Hopefully the bluray will fix the ghosting 🙏
That's true but honestly regardless of the ghosting the scene was ruined for me because of the sound. It was kinda nonexistant, it didn't match the insanity of action at all and unfitting, underwhelming sound will always make action seem ultra goofy to me
@@just2scare stuff like this usually is
@@slei4676yeah I think that’s a problem I have with Mappa’s actions, super well storyboarded and animated but the sound mixing makes it feel underwhelming
Sorry but whats ghosting?
Genuinely hope whoever's in charge hears all the fan complaints about the ghosting and dimming and sends a raw version to streaming services. It's such a shame to see great animation almost ruined by interference.
I thought I was going insane lol. I could tell that INSANE animation was happening but I just couldn't for the life of me follow what the hell was actually happening. It's a MAJOR hype/buzz kill.
@@Coolgame6812the biggest issue with it for me is that it makes it feel like I’m not even watching JJK, since the first season didn’t have ghosting or dimming.
Demanded by law. It is there for seizu
re prevention.
@@theanimerapper6351that’s a dumb argument.
@@theanimerapper6351 yea, just buy the bluray which doesn't even exist yet for like 1 year from now
Such a dumb comment
I cannot forgive Toho MBS for absolutely buthering Toshiyuki Sato's amazing sequence.
I'm ashamed that I blamed the new Director for that horrible effect.
But now I know
I absolutely ADORED the way this fight was adapted, especially the anime original stuff they added in the cockpit toward the end of the fight. Damn near jumped from my seat. ❤❤
Yeah it was sakuga but a low tier sakuga if that makes sense, like not at the level of ep 5, and that's weird because the episodes full of fighting are given to a beginner directors and episodes full of drama and character acting are given to strong names like gosso and others
@@DarkKing-z6bwhy are you always complaining bud?
@@DarkKing-z6bwtf do you mean by ''low-tier'' sakuga
Such an amazing ep, I'd rather have a team shoot for the stars and reach the moon, than having a one-to-one manga panel adaptation (although in this case they reached far and above the moon). Apart from the ridiculous amount of dimming and ghosting (which gave me more eye strain than in its absence) the only "flaws" I noticed were in Mahito's drawing in quite a lot of places. However, the sheer amount of strong character drawing in the latter half was really surprising after watching the fight.
It shows how dedicated the whole staff is, with the only thing holding them back being the awful schedule.
Same, I commented the same thing as well.
I know they are simplifying the designs , but some Mahito cuts didnt look that appealing to me.
like the way he sit in de right. personally, i loved it coz it made him look somewhat like a divine being or something. i knew it was imperfect tho.
I really hope they change the time slot for it so they can easy up on the ghosting but I have no clue how common it is for that to happen at TV studios in Japan. Still really hype to see the Blu Ray version once the season is out.
They don't need to ghost the copies they send to streaming websites. Toho is just being stupid.
I think it's intentional by mappa to make people want to buy the blue ray. More profit
@@re_striker3431 That's definitely not the case. First of all, Toho is the one handling the distribution so it can't be Mappa and blu ray sales aren't that good outside of Japan so it's probably them being lazy and stupid.
@@re_striker3431 It's literally the law
Mha and many recent shonen ghost a chunk of their action. Aot only does this sparingly though.
Can someone explain to me WHY streaming services can't get the unedited episodes for this season of JJK. Its a goddamn shame one of the most ambitious shows this year is getting nerfed by ghosting...
It’s Japan’s fault. They only provide the TV cut for western streaming services. Crunchyroll could push for it, but they would probably have to do it for every show which would be way too much of a hassle.
Coz TOHO is not providing the original version to the streaming services and seems like many ppl ain't complaining about it so crunchyroll also didn't care to ask the original version from them
@@userK894 So what you're saying is we probably need to make a lot of noise for them get on it?
@@atpr3241 right now it's the only way to get unedited version atleast for the remaining eps OR as many already said it u can just wait for some months for Blu-ray to actually watch the original version
@@atpr3241 We have to
For me personally, this was the best episode of JJK. I love animators using different styles and it was utilized perfectly this episode. The Gainax/Trigger esque animation of Mechamaru final stand was amazing and was perfect for that scene. Still pissed about ghosting but hopefully and this amount doesn’t happen again and the sakuga community did make a decent amount of uproar about it
Felt the same. This episode had everything.
I feel the same too
I’m normally on agreement with these sorts of things. Different styles of direction and animation are awesome, but at the same time I also kind of want a consistent JUJUTSU KAISEN style, y’know. Idk, the new art style combined with the ghosting just almost made it feel like I wasn’t even watching JJK this episode. I did like it, it just leaves me kind of worried for how much I PERSONALLY am gonna like the rest of this season, which sucks because JJK is legitimately my favorite series. The manga slaps too.
Yeah mahito chase scene without ghosting looked amazing
But still the animation for this ep was top notch
That ghosting what more seizure inducing than anything else
Yup, me too
I particularly loved the metallic compositing on Mechamaru! It wasn't overbearing and gave the drawings a lot of depth, even more so for when Mahito's domain was up and it was still.
But yeah, ghosting is going to make some high octane scenes in Shibuya fall flat... Especially if you combine it with a dark background.
Aren't you the "plot twist" guy😂
@@KNM_Piash ?
OPM season 3 video
Oh yeah, but I'm not sure if people got the idea that I was jokin' lmao. A four way studio project between groups that have near no connection would be impossible and unnecessary. @@KNM_Piash
I Hope
They release another raw version of those scenes cause the animation is just gorgeous
I love the post-One Year War style of the cockpit. Although I haven’t seen Gurren Lagann, so I can’t speak on how similar it is for that show.
To be fully honest, this episode was brilliant! I've already run into conversations with people stating how it wasn't very polished, and whenever I do, I willingly put on a mask and simply agree with their opinions because I'd rather they find out the truth themselves. It's much more fulfilling that way.
Though as a Visual Arts (Comic) undergrad student and an aspiring animator, I was desperately restraining the urge to not lose my mind whenever an ambitious cut made it's way onto the screen. It's even better knowing that newer entries were allowed to steer the episode. Gives me hope.
Having watched hundreds of hours worth of episodes, I was able to pick up on all the references, but it hit different seeing how well they were executed by a different group of people who look up to that style.
Great video 👍😃✨. I can almost always tell now what you'll be making a video on 😅
The only downside I felt was the lowering of contrasts in a few scenes and the excessive ghosting , rest of the episode felt fluid , the mahito fight in the reddish tone was over the top color scheme , the domain expansion also felt fluid, not too much mind blowing stuff yet but a good episode 😁
I felt like I was watching a gundam
Anime with that fight absolutely loved the animation
I was so disappointed by the Mahito chase because it would look absolutely AMAZING if it weren't for the ghosting.
Edit: I'm so glad you kept mentioning Gurren Lagaan so much (one of my favorite anime ever alongside JJK) because I outright said "Hold up, is this Gurren Lagaan now " multiple times during the fight.
I was just wanna say thank you for making this anime breakdown videos and your other videos, it really helps me understand more about animation
The ghosting in this episode was just insanity 💀
I love how you know every person and who did what.
Please keep doing these I don't care for what show.
I LOVE IT
I think the sukuna scene is gonna be dimmed and ghosted.
ofcourse it will
If you mean the fire one, I think ghosting only happens with sharp and sudden bright effects. Fire should be okay, I think. If you mean that OTHER scene, then the slashing and cleaving might be affected
I cant wait for the diversity of art styles the show will bring forth
also I like how everyone in the comments is an animation expert now
The music when Miwa lays out her simple domain was also top tier.
Now Shibuya will start
The ominous atmosphere was amazing,and they added a bit of narration 😭❤️
Where was the narration?
@@joebidenjr5902when the veil was cast in Shibuya.
I always wait for these videos, you really inform us very well with everything and everyone that worked!
This was my favourite video of your channel. Thank you for the work!
Ghosting is gonna be the real curse of jujutsu kaisen season 2
You gained a new sub from me bro😂🔥🔥🔥Love these breakdowns
I was too busy enjoying the rest of this episode to even think about the Ghosting, but yeah we’re in agreement on it being just overall bad for the animation.
I honestly saw the drawings looking unfinished as part of the fight because it was Mahito who had weird frames but it made sense for him due to him constantly changing his form
Its raw drawings, Its not "unfinished"
It lacks the composite
which they were going for if you have watched Eva and Gurren
6:19 I don't know why him pulling that Rope is so fascinating to me
Love the fuck ghosting at the end. Because honestly, same. I was able to follow for the most part but damn the ghosting was egregious this episode
You know that the Blu-Ray cut is gonna go crazy.
Thank you for doing so much research for us its really educating!
I read the manga but I didn't understand that much whats happening except for the key moments, I didn't even knew it was night time😂the anime did a better job handling it atleast for me.
agreed
The manga is weekly,there's only so much you can do with black and white pages 😅
It wasn't night time it was dark bcoz getos veil
JJK is an anime with great story with great production by MAPPA ,it is next big THING after The big3 and AOT
Interesting. For me I always thought Gege makes things pretty clear with his drawings and explanations (except for the limitless technique).
I might actually buy the Blu-ray if it gets rid of the ghosting
Yes it won't have any ghosting and dimming
I can see reactors saying ohh that's not what jujutsu kaisen looked like before.
the dimming for the broadcast was unbearable this episode
Turn your brightness up a bit.
Cuts to mechamrus brightness(miwa)
Again W editing
Oddly enough I was really reminded of "Superjail" during this episode.
In my opinion MAPPA or whoever is distributing the episodes to broadcasters like crunchyroll should send the non ghosted/dimmed blu ray ver cause lets be honest no one outside japan gives af and just want to see the animators hard work in all its glory shame to both the fans and animators how much the dimming nerfs their work
Blame TOHO or Crunchyroll.We have to spam CR to ask for the raw version at this point tbh.
Tbh, they should’ve just put a warning or uploaded both versions.
Only problem is the damn ghosting
Not a fan of mecha fights but the domain expansion was so beautiful.
I really wished they won't make mechamaru cgi, didn't dissapointment
Can't escape the jjk episode breakdowns lol. Can't complain tho i love these
i just started reading shibuya incident in my free time and man its crazy can't believe its all going to get animated in a few months
EP 7 felt like watching a different anime
All of my thoughts, hopes, and concerned: The animation overall was very good. Some of the sequences seemed more average compared to what were used to with this show, and some of the animation was a bit less fluent and sort of choppy I guess. The faces went sort of off model like once or twice maybe? Some of the art felt a little weird here and there. Overall, the quality was very good.
I think that this is because of three things. One, this is probably a low quality episode. Considering everything that came before this episode and will come after it this season, this is one of the least important things they would need to animate. Two, mechanistic was probably hard as heck to draw, and even mahito is only human shaped some of the time. Three, there’s just so much that they’re going to have to animate after this that no doubt took a lot of the “manpower” away from this episode.
I am somewhat worried that the lackluster schedule for this season could result in a lot of lackluster/inconsistent/borderline silly looking art that could ruin the serious tone that this arc HAS to have.
Lastly, of course, the ghosting is gonna be brutal. With that being said, there was a lot of bright flashing colors in this fight, so I’m hoping that this is as bad as the ghosting will get. Anything even close to this level of ghosting is going to basically ruin the first time viewing of all of the episode for EVERYONE, both manga readers and anime only’s alike. That’s the most important viewing obviously, because it’s everyone’s first time witnessing it, and hype is at its highest because you’re watching each episode as they come out, and it’s the next big episode you’ve been waiting a week for.
Also, there’s gonna be some really difficult to animate stuff coming up and I am concerned that we could see some very un-jujutsu Kaisen like quality in the near future, which would hurt my soul.
Overall, I’d say that there were some lackluster portions of this episode that would be unnoticed in most other shows, but stands out in comparison to the quality that we’ve had for all 29 episodes before this. I hope that this episodes (still above average) quality is the anomaly for this season. The Shibuya arc would be a TERRIBLE time to for MAPPA to drop the ball on this show.
Also look forward to the blu ray release. F ghosting.
im so glad they didnt make him cgi
He has a far less detailed mecha design than the average (70s excluded, because that era had generally one of least detailed mecha designs ever) so of course it was made in 2d.
Probably ultimate mechamaru just take a few extra minutes to draw than the base one.
Remember : not every mecha is time consuming only be it's a robot.
Hi, where did you find the storyboards for animation?
Hopefully when the bluray version releases, there's no ghosting and dimming.
Is there a way to get acces to the non ghosted version ?
When the bluray version comes out Ig
I agree that dimming can reduce the effect, but can anyone explain how ghosting can reduce the strobe effect?
Do you think the ghosting will any other episodes?
One day you'll be big, I love to watch your videos, whenever i click on them im always shocked to remember you have only 8K subs.
I guess to enjoy the anime i have to wait for bluray
Very good breakdown pf the episode animation 👌Thubs up from me bro 👍
Debut kaisen is REAL
K1ro as a ED/SB would be great if possible
That Mitani's crowd scene was really fascinating to me it's like I'm watching a completely different show
Character designs of the crowd there reminds me of character designs in some animated music videos like Brittle Bones Nicky or DyE - Fantasy. Which isn't a bad thing cuz I fucking love the aesthetics of the designs.
@@bold9291yeh it was really good and now that mitani has become inhouse hopefully we will get more scenes from him
I honestly perfer him as an animator (like imai, although his sb were Really good)
@@A1000-b9s I think he can SB action part of a ep like yooto did for part A of this ep
I wonder if the producers or the distributors can do something to reduce the ghosting... atleast the ott version should not have ghosting
the idea of using ghosting is very stupid in general. that pikachu episode had insane level of flashing lights, literally gave me a headache when i decided to check it, none of the modern anime would make a scene THAT flashy and the ghosting was used for everything that moved. japanese television is dumb
Can anyone be bothered and explain whats kanada?
A style of animation named after the legendary Yoshinori Kanada, it's features include everything I talked about in this video
Choppy style of animation
@@ProbablyPretentious thank you (PP)
Yoshinori Kanada
he's an animator.
@@neoparmar2169choppy... Yes! But only if we are talking about kanada during the 70s and early 80s. From the mid 80s onward he also used a larger number of frames per second, like everyone else. Especially in the golden age of Japan animation : the 90s (and imo also early 2000s).
Kosuke Kato uses kanada style, yes, but not the "perfected one "
outside of the ghosting and dimming, i wish they didnt choose to use soft shading for the comp on mechamaru's mech (minor nitpick)
Soft shading is the future of color correction in Anime. More and more Dop have started using it (mostly the newbies, but also the veterans like the one of blue lock) like it or not.
It's an extremely good way of making drawings look more detailed despite them being not, giving a sort of "detailed hand painted key frame /background feeling.
looks great
@@lorenzorizzi864 when done with intent, i think it can look solid like that new studio ponoc movie, but i really hate how it looks when it is clearly used to cut corners. Shows like Boruto and Vinland Saga devolved from having beautiful cel shaded drawings earlier on to an almost overuse of the soft-shading by the end which simply just looks ugly imo.
@@chapri_from_chapra5443 glad you liked it lol
@@plumedeneko 😘😘
Can someone explain why they had to add ghosting?
It's a Japanese television rule. A measure against inducing seizures due to fast changing cuts with contrast and flashing colors.
We need a part 2 for the other half of the episode.
Why don't you talk about My hero academia's animation.
I am really waiting for it.
Please can you breakdown one piece episode 1074 in your perspective
I know that they simplified the character designs for the ease of animation, but sometimes I cannot be helped but be bothered by it.
The artwork in the hidden inventory is amazing, but in this episode some of Mahitos cuts looked off.
Maybe it is just me. 🤷♀️
Not only you
I feel the same too
That's what bothered me watching the episode
Its a choice for the animation
ironically HI had even simpler drawings
Looked straight from the 2000s
The style they were going for
If it really bothers you Blud you haven't seen much anime
@@chapri_from_chapra5443 You are right, I dont watch a lot of anime just a couple of them.
I was only bothered by the way some Mahito cuts were drawn in this episode particularly.
@@oz9220 well you will be more in the later episodes
@@oz9220because they move a lot. Don't Pause at The moving cuts Please
Dimming and ghosting ruined the whole experience.
the blu ray version will not have ghosting
Post 13 of asking PP to review Shigurui
I don't know why the fight looks similar to me to the naruto fights especially naruto vs pain
the scenes which are good are butchered by Ghosting. and then people will say MAPPA is trash
nah what you really need to talk about is 1074
I need opm s3 already😭😭
Ghosting paired with some janky scenes and drawings bring this ep down a bit, but it was still crazy fun.
Those janky scenes were the style of animators
@@JustAsh001 I kno what's style and what's rushed.
How that was a mixed bag❤❤
Incredibly ambitious episode, really good action but multiple cuts lack polish, some of the movement wasn't well done. Of course we also have the copious amounts of dimming and ghosting (ik the studio isn't responsible for that, but it is an issue that I have to consider)
It was a mixed bag sometimes it was really hard to follow specially the forest one and 2 words F**K GHOSTING
It's not probably pretentious if he doesn't see "moles" where there aren't "moles".
Dimming and ghosting excluded of course
@@ProbablyPretentious I find it funny that you actually had to answer this despite the video itself being a fully detailed answer.
@@MugiwaranoTonyDStark i really liked the explanation
Hello I’m for Saudi Arabia and when I saw this Seen I was hurt 1:36
😂😂😂I apologise for his mistake😂
It was the best ep man just wait for blue ray
Strong in terms of the animation? Brother, what are you talking about? JJK never looked this bad. And I noticed a decline in the art and animation department from this episode all the way to the newest one, which is 10 at the time of me writing this. This is bad and I am concerned about the future of this season.
This is objectively good animation, go watch any trigger anime and you will get the type of artstyle this episode had
I liked it when they referenced a gainax mecha anime(the entire episode)
I didn't even care lol I had fun
wdym japanese laws? then every anime would have ghosting right?
yes the problem is that jujutsu kaisen air at midnight so there is more ghosting and dimming because is night so bright color hit more.
Now i know what to call it. GHOSTING. i hate it so much. JC staff use it a lot and its one of the reasons why i hated opm s2
We should be lucky that pokemons don’t exist because if i saw porygon irl i would be animal abuse
It wasnt even porgon's faults it was pikachu's thunder attack that caused seizures if i remember correctly,poor porygon got short end of the stick LMAO
It goood
After seeing this episode I want mappa to really animate one punch man 😅
nah not yet or just not at all
@@antsinmypantsallday they will get rid of one main stream anime AOT this year so they can in collaboration with Madhouse Studios possibly animate one punch man. Or maybe studio bones who knows?
I don’t understand why the ghosting is mentioned so much, it has almost no effect on the end product. The animation is truly a masterpiece.
Is it just me or anyone else thinks that the amount of work is insane but just doesn't feels as good as say Chainsawman. Maybe because of the complexity of the actions I was unable to follow or the style which looked kinda unpolished.
CSM uses completely different approach and the sheer amounts of detailed drawings and character acting is still unmatched. Also most of the CSM was heavily corrected to look as close and consistent to the character designs. JJK is going for a completely opposite approach, i.e sacrificing detailed designs for more fluidity.
@@abhiii3333 You're right. I also knew that. It's just CSM felt better or maybe it's style appealed me more.
@@sumitsikderfilms Yeah I also prefer CSM a bit more just wish it wasn't that heavily corrected, maybe it's also because I prefer CSM's writing way more than JJK, so I just enjoy it more in general 🙃
Mappa b like Unlimited Budget expension
It's not budget it's the mappa sla** I mean animators
@@saitama53034this is not also accurate
Huh, strong in terms of animation, wth are you even saying, it was horrible this episode the whole season
You just don't like the artstyle lol, this is objectively good animation
You are absolutely right, the ghosting made the fight scene unwatchable, i can’t see the sakuga clearly and fluidly. But also want to mention one thing, the sudden change in style of animation at the last mahito vs mechamaru fight scene is kinda choppy and sus, my monkey brain just cannot comprehend on the first look.
Its not a mixed bag. The animation quality is top tier.
Please stop complaining about the dimming and ghosting. It really isnt that noticeable and doesnt take away from the quality.
I feel people are just nitpicking this to sound smart and contrarian. Just stop.
??? I think it is now crime to say things they don't like about something. You act as if criticisms is not part of media viewing. If that's the case why critics are there to tell what they liked and not like. Just because you didn't find any problem in animation you want others not to even mention the thing that they can tell is wrong or could have been better or good. And the person who made the analysis isn't even a lunatic fan he is simply giving analysis on a animation that is his expertise?
Personally the varying styles of animation throughout the fight and the directing/story boarding felt incoherent and chaotic at times. Add on the ghosting and dimming and I think calling it a mixed bag is a fair assessment. The animation quality itself was good though
Yeah it was sakuga but a low tier sakuga if that makes sense, like not at the level of ep 5, and that's weird because the episodes full of fighting are given to a beginner directors and episodes full of drama and character acting are given to strong names like gosso and others
Same as everybody else in the comments, the ghosting... its a real shame ghosting is gonna ruin the enjoyment of this whole season's animation for me :(
@@antsinmypantsallday i mean for me the animation is gonna be way less enjoyable because of it :(
Jujutsu kaisen literally carrying his channel 😭
felt a bit slow at the start for some reason
It was hard to understand and bad, hoping the fights to come are better
it’s mostly due to the ghosting, which is still going to be affected with the other future fights
I hate myself for not liking mecha characters...I just couldn't whatch that part! And it annoys me coz I love the series I just don't like when mecha come to the screens and I literally have the need to skip the part
Don't hate on me guys plz
the first half of this fight was underwhelming till Mechamaru used Viola, cuz that chase sequence was insane n set the tone for the 2nd half
Damn
Because of ghosting or high standards on your part?
I no this is a animation channel but everyone keeps singing this episodes praises because its a jujutsu kaisen episode I want to say the episode was not entertaining except at the end 😢😢
Tf are u taking about jjk is battle Shonen and it showed one of the best animated fights this year and also I enjoyed it a lot. don't know about ur preferences or what kinda stuff did u enjoy