Battery degredation, maintenance costs and reliability of a high mileage Tesla Model 3 performance

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  • Our own car (called Clint Beastwood) now has over 103,000 miles on the clock. How is it?
    Wear and tear?
    Build quality?
    Battery degradation?
    Useable capacity?
    Range loss?
    Reliability?
    Maintenance and service costs?
    Tyre life?
    Original brake pads?
    Depreciation?
    Running costs?
    All these answered in our roundup of life with a 2019 Model 3 performance, a great EV Electric Vehicle with high mileage - over 100,000 miles (160,000km).
    Thanks for watching.
    Richard Symons
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  • @itsbilln2178
    @itsbilln2178 หลายเดือนก่อน +295

    Wiper sweeps when raining: 27
    Wiper sweeps when not raining: 7,673,474

    • @RSEV
      @RSEV  หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      😂 yep

    • @clxboxone
      @clxboxone หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@RSEV last update 2024 really improved wiper AUTO. no more random wipes on dry windshield, and ok to very good speed on rain.

    • @TeslaElonSpaceXFan
      @TeslaElonSpaceXFan หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@clxboxone True!

    • @andrewmee8136
      @andrewmee8136 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@clxboxoneDefinitely less random wipers but still happens which is annoying.

    • @davids.6671
      @davids.6671 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Reason i bought add in Hardware to Turn this shit Off and applied coating 🙈

  • @dyhppyx
    @dyhppyx หลายเดือนก่อน +231

    Richard I have a 2018 3 performance with 188,000 miles. All supercharging. My ownership experience is almost exactly the same as you. lifetime efficiency of 241 wh/mi. Around 10% degredation. Don't feel like I've seen any additional loss after 80k miles. The only advice I'll add is that unless you're tracking the car you can buy much cheaper tires for $70 that work fine for normal commuting.

    • @brettbradshaw3704
      @brettbradshaw3704 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Can I ask how are you getting 241wh/mi. My 2019 M3p gets 315-360wh/mi and I drive in chill and fairy smoothly. Admittedly some of my drive is on 70mph roads to and from work, but I'd say it's 50/50. I've tried to hypermile it, but I've rarely dipped below 300 unless I look at "last 30 miles" data then I can dip to 215ish

    • @roberts.wilson1848
      @roberts.wilson1848 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Kia, nissan from similar period have egregious battery degradation, a lot going into the 30% degradation and nissan leaf going 50% degradation and even over 66% degradation, abysmal values.

    • @PJWey
      @PJWey หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@roberts.wilson1848who knew thermal management and resilient chemistry was so important? Nissan suffered especially from Japanese First Gen Leaf battery chemistry suffering badly from degradation, especially heat related. Far from ideal for a passive cooled battery.

    • @niph670
      @niph670 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Nissan - yes
      Kia - no
      Only Kia that degrades is pre mid 2017 27kwh Soul
      30kwh (fan cooled)Soul Ev + 64kWh Soul / E-Niro batteries k would say have lower degradation

    • @jaxgeorge3088
      @jaxgeorge3088 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ⁠@@brettbradshaw3704my 2023 m3p has averaged 298w per mile at 10000 miles. Only about 20% in chill mode. I average about 75/80 mph on motorway use. It was at about 270w but winter has put a dint in the consumption.

  • @henvan8737
    @henvan8737 หลายเดือนก่อน +118

    I ran the Tesla battery health test on my M3 LR after two year of usage and 45,000km it reported battery health of 98%. This was with very little super charging and home charging from 100% solar, interesting my car reports 42% charging from regen braking. Hello from Australia.

    • @ObiePaddles
      @ObiePaddles หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How did you find out the 42% stat?

    • @therealjeffg
      @therealjeffg หลายเดือนก่อน

      Interesting info thanks Richard

    • @janvanrookhuijzen8309
      @janvanrookhuijzen8309 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ObiePaddlesyou can read it over obd2 + scan my Tesla app

    • @edc1569
      @edc1569 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Is the LR NMC chemistry?

    • @richardweyland116
      @richardweyland116 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And it depreciates faster than it does 0-60.

  • @douglaswatt1582
    @douglaswatt1582 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    Great review as usual Richard. Good to see you put the non-stop media disinformation and mythology about electric vehicles to rest with some actual real world experience and reporting. Invaluable. Speaking more personally, we have two of the very early 2018 Performance Model 3s. My wife, who is no Car Junkie, absolutely loves hers. And mine is the most fun to drive vehicle I've ever driven. We have done mostly supercharging because we have free unlimited supercharging and Battery degradation has been minimal since we stopped leaving the vehicles in more than 75% state of charge

    • @gerard1153
      @gerard1153 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Splendid Douglas ~ There is hope then still to put my frumpy...("Oh look at that cute Buick" - Wife) into a Model Y =- )

  • @VideosFromJason
    @VideosFromJason หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Done 20k miles on a Model 3 2022, 220wh/miles averaged over it's life. With Octopus it's 7.5p/kWh, so £330 to do 20k miles!

  • @iliastsiphlidis4607
    @iliastsiphlidis4607 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Watching all your vids from Melbourne, Australia. Your somber and factual approach on the matter is refreshing, many thanks for it all.

  • @TheTechOnline
    @TheTechOnline หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    My 2021 M3LR has just hit 100,000 miles. Deg is roughly 3%. Recently did 275 miles from Poole to near Liverpool from 100% - 0% on 60-70 speeds. Also, only 10% I have charged at Superchargers or other fast charging.
    Only repairs I've had done is front upper arms, new charge port (not needed just a bit of insulation broke off), and replaced the drivers seat pad.

    • @RSEV
      @RSEV  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Only 3% is super 👌

    • @akf2000
      @akf2000 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Is the seat pad when it doesn't recognise a driver and doesn't turn on? Seems quite common

    • @TheTechOnline
      @TheTechOnline หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@akf2000 nah I started to feel the base of the seat through the foam, so I swapped the foam out.

    • @tesla-spectre
      @tesla-spectre หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      My Model 3 LR has after 61000km in 2.5 yrs 5% degradation. about 30% SuC. It already hit 5% Deg after 40000, nothing since then really.

    • @mwahahaha
      @mwahahaha หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TheTechOnlinedid you do that yourself or did you get Tesla to do it? If Tesla do you know how much it was?

  • @Chaughan1
    @Chaughan1 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    If it is anything like the wipers on mine it will be 500k in perfect sunshine and zero when it is raining so hard you can’t see out. Still love my 50k miles 2021 M3P. Only cost I have has is replacing the glass roof when I dropped my bike on it. For some reason that wasn’t covered under warranty… bloody electric cars 😊

    • @v1nnyc
      @v1nnyc หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What was the cost for replacing the glass? Was it the front or rear piece?

    • @Chaughan1
      @Chaughan1 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@v1nnyc £1,181 including labour and VAT. It was the front piece. A peddle struck it.

    • @petrosnemardos
      @petrosnemardos หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Chaughan1ouch !

    • @brucebaum1458
      @brucebaum1458 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Should have been an insurance claim with $200 deductible.

  • @stricardo1
    @stricardo1 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Really enjoyed the information.
    You are a natural.

    • @RSEV
      @RSEV  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you so much!

  • @UKTeslaPicker
    @UKTeslaPicker หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    "You have to maintain your bush" - Could have been a suitable segue to a sponsored advert there 🤣

    • @jonevansauthor
      @jonevansauthor หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Manscaped get on practically every channel, don't they?

    • @jonevansauthor
      @jonevansauthor หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It was at this point I realised you could also have been referring to Flymo.

  • @robertfay7750
    @robertfay7750 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    great informative real world insight as always, one of the most interesting videos to date, great work

  • @lnby
    @lnby หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    I know a guy who has a Model S at currently at 415,000 miles, lived off of free Tesla Supercharging for most of its life and he still has it today. He is on his second battery pack as the first went below 80% but was replaced by Tesla under warranty. On this logic it seems roughly 10% loss per 100k miles? Great video by the way, I am hoping to take the plunge into an EV myself.

    • @HansKruse
      @HansKruse หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      My model S from 2014 has done 373.000km and lost about 13% on the original pack.

    • @waynerussell6401
      @waynerussell6401 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Extensive Dutch/Belgian data base shows 5% degradation in first 50k miles and 1% thereafter.
      docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1c3m9wqlxPBo8ziDYVm5cHRzNCHZbtI_2vVhlXksX9Jc/edit#gid=657708069

    • @mondotv4216
      @mondotv4216 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Those original Model S cars did have some battery issues that Tesla seems to have solved over the years.

    • @Dazza5007
      @Dazza5007 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah alright you woke up yet , living in a dream world u must work for Tesla

    • @MsMusicman56
      @MsMusicman56 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sounds impressive, but here in Ozz that's roughly 100k for this car. And would a cheaper non Tesla ev be as good? I'm not anti but just don't have the dough

  • @Salty1952
    @Salty1952 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Another great review, Richard. Thank you for all the insight to just how good the original Model 3 actually is.

  • @alexmatthews9536
    @alexmatthews9536 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    great vid, thanks for making this

  • @John-FourteenSix
    @John-FourteenSix หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Excellent report as usual.
    It would be reasonable to say for a 100K miles EV (with a 10% range loss) there are no performance issues whatsoever.

  • @MetalVII
    @MetalVII หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    My MS90D is currently on nearly 90k miles and 100% charge shows 258 miles.
    According to my Tessie App I’ve had 8.8% degradation and 91.2% battery health.
    I only use Supercharges when public charging (which is rare for me as I’ve no need to go outside my range) and have spent £185.19 total, in my ownership (7 months) and travelled 5,658 miles total.

  • @mahargrekab
    @mahargrekab หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Great review! If only this could be in the mainstream media. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

  • @bshah4831
    @bshah4831 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Wow, brilliant video. Terrific data and comparisons.

  • @fihsak
    @fihsak หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Love you vids, mate. Brilliant

    • @RSEV
      @RSEV  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you like them!

  • @ejp1
    @ejp1 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Great video. I own a May 2018 RWD Model 3 with 91k miles, still drives like new! 248Wh/mi lifetime. No maintenance needed outside of consumables like tires, wipers, etc.

    • @benellis7427
      @benellis7427 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How’s the range holding up? I’m coming from an Ioniq of which I know is an inferior car in most ways but even after years of use does not show signs of degradation of the usable range.

    • @ejp1
      @ejp1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@benellis7427I have not seen any noticeable degradation in my daily driving, but I have not done any range tests from 100% to 0% to compare. As a point of reference the battery still says 306 miles at 100% (US Model 3), but I'm not sure how much useful data that number actually gives us.

    • @benellis7427
      @benellis7427 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ejp1Thanks that is good to know. I’m sure I will happy regardless. I do however wish it was a hatchback.

    • @ejp1
      @ejp1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@benellis7427me too! or en estate version would be nice someday

    • @hshshs889
      @hshshs889 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's great to hear, I have had a different experience, I own an October 2018 RWD Model 3 MidRange with 80,000 miles. Battery degradation is about 15%. I have had to replace the superbottle and the PCS which started failing this year. Spent about $3k in those repairs.

  • @3shockarmy74
    @3shockarmy74 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Fascinating stuff and reassuring. Thanks.

    • @RSEV
      @RSEV  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Glad you enjoyed it

  • @BrokenNinja
    @BrokenNinja หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Just had the matrix headlight update for my 2021 model 3!

  • @dang3254
    @dang3254 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Another great video Richard and team 👍👍👍
    Thank you
    Gives me confidence re my M3LR 2021 with 31500 miles
    Dan

  • @jpizel1070
    @jpizel1070 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video. Do you recommend keeping my M3LR after warranty is over? Aren't the battery packs around 20k to replace?

  • @hareshkaria8377
    @hareshkaria8377 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

    Richard - Tesla Ambassador - Elon give this man a CyberTruck foc!

    • @garyrooksby
      @garyrooksby หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Even Elon pays full price. So did Sandy Munro. However, Richard does deserve every one of his free supercharger miles!

    • @RSEV
      @RSEV  หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      🙏

    • @RogerOakwell
      @RogerOakwell หลายเดือนก่อน

      And why not Teslas are great.

    • @richardweyland116
      @richardweyland116 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Teslabot.

    • @RogerOakwell
      @RogerOakwell หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@richardweyland116fool

  • @karlwest437
    @karlwest437 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    This video is absolutely perfect timing for me, hoping to go test drive this exact model this weekend 😀

    • @RSEV
      @RSEV  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      We have a good one with FSD on our website… just saying 😉. Www.rsev.co.uk

  • @mickwhytee4
    @mickwhytee4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the video just a question should the oil pump not be covered by warranty? My understanding is 8 years battery & motors

  • @emran83
    @emran83 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great review mate. Thank you

  • @vcg507
    @vcg507 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great video, thanks

  • @williambaxendale7641
    @williambaxendale7641 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Helped me decide. Tempted to leave my 2019 (bought new), 50K 3LR and venture into the Highlands. With such potential longevity, why incur rapid depreciation in something without, for example, fsd? Unspent £30+K will help with insurance hikes and repair costs! First car I’ve had that, after four years, I’m happy to keep…in fact, since day 1, I’ve regained enjoyment in driving, without degradation!

    • @seanplace8192
      @seanplace8192 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You would also lose the enhanced autopilot features, since most of those don't work on Tesla Vision cars. I would wait until that has been worked out, plus the front bumper camera is going to be included on new Model 3's in the near future.

    • @thoos192
      @thoos192 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would buy an ICE that actually works as intended and has almost no value drop compared to BEV:s @@seanplace8192

  • @jondavies5885
    @jondavies5885 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video. It will have sw updates with new features and efficiency over those years too.

  • @stephenraftery3364
    @stephenraftery3364 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video. Is this cobalt battery as opposed to newer LFP batteries in Tesla's since 2021?

  • @paulwilson3759
    @paulwilson3759 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thanks Richard, really enjoyed that. I have a 69 plate too, absolutely love it, it only has 21k but you’ve given me the confidence to hang onto it for a few more years (like you say, there isn’t much that compare to these bad boys)

  • @SteA200sx
    @SteA200sx หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    We recently got a 2019 M3P, it really is superb and like new. I was indifferent with the purchase initially as I’ve always loved petrol performance cars, I didn’t expect to become a Tesla fan boy. But there you go, a few 1000 miles in and we are all loving it more every day.

  • @JohnLovesSpain
    @JohnLovesSpain หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Good info, thank you

  • @gilesgoldsbro5816
    @gilesgoldsbro5816 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Richard, I want to fit the swivel mount for the screen in my model Y, but there are so many on the market. Which did you go for, and can you recommended it?

  • @goranstewart4726
    @goranstewart4726 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I’ve had a model Y LR for exactly two years and driven 61,000 miles without any issues or service requirements. The original tyres lasted an unbelievable 44,000 miles.

    • @nurbsenvi
      @nurbsenvi หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That’s what surprised me as well
      I have original Tyres after 50k km and still fine

    • @mickwhytee4
      @mickwhytee4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Probably due to driving style and the performance model torque is the biggest wear factor on a car especially if heavy right foot

    • @goranstewart4726
      @goranstewart4726 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@mickwhytee4A couple of years ago I had an AMG E63 and drove that the same way. Those tyres lasted less than 10,000 miles, I do think the car has an impact on the tyre wear.

    • @lukasz401
      @lukasz401 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I am also surprised how well my tyres fare after 25k miles. After all the FUD in the media about faster tyre wear in EVs I expected them to be finished already but looks like I will do another 20k on them. Also Model Y LR.

  • @chriskelsey2628
    @chriskelsey2628 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I’ve got a model 3 P 69 plate on 65k miles so good to hear it will keep going without major maintenance or battery decay! I’ve put kw v3 coilovers on and it is a complete weapon, as you say the performance vs running costs is unreal, have free work chargingand home charger. My problem is the GT4 doesn’t get used and not sure what to buy next, the Tesla is so useable, cheap to run, reliable and fun to drive. They may catch on one day!

  • @craigogden8708
    @craigogden8708 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Richard i may have missed it but on your roadtrips do you use autopilot and or cruise control? Would be interested in your thoughts/opinions. Do they benefit efficiency etc.

  • @chrisconner3346
    @chrisconner3346 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great review, enjoyed it. Lots of interesting information....Thank you.

  • @joepurple009
    @joepurple009 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    My 2019 M3 SR+ has done 135.000 miles and has 40 kwh remaining and a buffer of 3,5 kwh.
    So about 19% degradation. I got this info from the S3XY buttons app. I think it is pretty high but it still drives nicely and enough superchargers available in Holland when needed. I use it as my businesscar and it will stay in the family as our private car for sure.
    Now looking for a new one; maybe wait for the refresh MY

  • @safianyounas94
    @safianyounas94 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I have a Tesla model3 standard range , 22 model and I have done 37k miles so far and all supercharging everyday, so far there is no battery degradation. Hopefully it stays like that for atleast 150k .

  • @vladimiralexandrov5930
    @vladimiralexandrov5930 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How is your 2020 model S doing? Can you do an update review?

  • @flexmaniac
    @flexmaniac หลายเดือนก่อน

    Which OBD tool is good for looking at the battery health? What's the best way to do this?

  • @Jonathantuba
    @Jonathantuba หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I have a 2018 model x100D with 130k on clock. It has mostly been supercharged, as has the free unlimited supercharging, but still gives around 90% of original range on a charge. Only two major things have needed replacing, AC has failed twice (once while under warranty) and power steering once. Otherwise has been trouble free. Regularly take on business road trips going as far as the south of Spain, east to Poland and north to Sweden all charged by supercharger network. Tesla is the best for long distance driving.

    • @mariozwingmann6269
      @mariozwingmann6269 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How is Tesla the best for long travels? Do u have enough super charger if driving faster and in cold weather U gotta charge it every 150-200 miles. Good luck with a 500-600 miles journey. What's long travel for U ? LOL
      The US also charges more per charge and I guys got lucky without road tax. That's BS, those cars still use the road!

  • @martingruhn5342
    @martingruhn5342 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Great Video Richard. Whilst I enjoy reading other people’s views in the comments I cannot understand why some write utter nonsense to try to discredit your findings! Just ignore the haters Richard and keep posting informative videos.

    • @RSEV
      @RSEV  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah it’s amazing people just want to hate EVs, don’t believe any data, want to do nothing to change and yet take the time to type away negativity and make themselves look daft. 🤷‍♂️

    • @billmulvihill8452
      @billmulvihill8452 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RSEV 16:16
      So everyone who has posted their own Tesla horror stories are just making them up?🤔

  • @markrowland6494
    @markrowland6494 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great timing, with prices dropping I’ve been tempted to get a m3p as a weekend fun car

  • @Gaijin101
    @Gaijin101 หลายเดือนก่อน

    True, when you put the performance and running cost into account, its hard to beat.

  • @steveyoung8376
    @steveyoung8376 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    James from cLEVERLY and James and Kate channel did a review of a model 3 performance taxi and I think that had 200000 miles and he drove it and said it drove like new

    • @chargeheadsuk
      @chargeheadsuk หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Its now done 220k video on my channel 😉

  • @g2024_
    @g2024_ หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    My Tesla model Y LR, that you replaced the dash & put the swivel mount in for me on the day I got it, has done almost 45k, & it’s still brilliant, & yes I don’t get as many miles shown @ 100% as I did when I got it
    Plus I convinced a friend to also get one end of 2022, he’s done almost 100k in his and again might’ve lost 10% of shown range @ 100%, but he loves it.
    Never going back to diesel or petrol & hope to continue with my current car, although might be tempted if the model Y juniper comes out, mainly for the vented seats 🥶

  • @blusox78
    @blusox78 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd be more interested in how many times those wiper blades have swept the windscreen
    a. When it's raining.
    b. When it randomly feels like it.
    😉

  • @phobos7176
    @phobos7176 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Love it, had mine as a company car now for a year and will be approaching 100k miles by the time my lease is over on it, not seen any real noticeable battery degradation in the first year, probably around 98% AC charging from home/work so running costs almost negligible! Interested to see what will be available in 3 years time when i have to hand this back (or possibly keep it!!)

  • @rockykropp
    @rockykropp หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    You have a great channel and enjoy you and the content. 100,000 miles….. WOW! I only have 99,810 to go :))

  • @Areku06
    @Areku06 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Brilliant video, my model 3 dual motor with acceleration is the best daily and fun car that I can track. Can’t beat the performance, lots of people still not idea how well these model 3s drive. I was bmw 3 series fan before getting model 3. Fuel saving alone is worth it.

  • @chrisdicko1683
    @chrisdicko1683 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just wondered what the temperature was when the first test of the battery range was? Because when my Kia eniro was sat on the drive the range changed by about 5 mile just sat on the driveway for the day once the sun got on it

  • @kevinjourneau8645
    @kevinjourneau8645 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Richard. Really enjoying all of your videos. Visiting the Uk 🇬🇧 in may from Canada as was wondering what application can I use for charging. I am use to having my Tesla for the last 4 years
    Thanks

  • @neilp2441
    @neilp2441 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Superb review 😊 Great to put all the myths to rest, finally. Loving my dual motor Y after 2 years of owning. Keep up the good work. Great channel 👏

  • @jonathansmith5850
    @jonathansmith5850 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Tesla really are the best. The new ones are getting better, and the older ones are still brilliant and unique with no real rivals……..

    • @twisted_panties
      @twisted_panties หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Don't kid yourself, plenty of excellent (and better) rivals.

    • @piff1988
      @piff1988 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@twisted_panties Like?

    • @alittlebitmoore
      @alittlebitmoore หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not sure about the deletion of the Indicator stalks though not tried one yet. Love our S and 3 but was thinking about a Y for rear leg room. They work and drive beautifully and have done for years (5 years on the S 100D)

    • @piff1988
      @piff1988 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@twisted_panties Like?

    • @johnmansfield3317
      @johnmansfield3317 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Deluded. Nothing in Tesla really works well, feels like the car is constantly in beta. Legacy manufacturers produce far superior cars where everything “just works”.

  • @MultiSoly
    @MultiSoly หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for the information

  • @cliveburks
    @cliveburks หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks very informative

  • @e-trippingwithadamgebbett8024
    @e-trippingwithadamgebbett8024 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Brilliant video. All the negative FUD about used electric vehicles. I own a 2018 e-golf, done over 78000 miles and have a battery state of health of 92% with limited battery conditioning. Love it and was only going to keep it for a few years and still own it. Thanks Richard 👍

  • @simonreeves2017
    @simonreeves2017 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Hi Richard, greetings from Oxford. Love the work you do on this channel dispelling the FUD about EVs. In 2019 I bought a brand new BMW i3, my first EV. I still have it, still love it. I was a bit anxious about my decision at the time because of FUD, nearly 5 years later I have no regrets at all. My only expense has been 4 new tyres at 37k miles, I don’t get it serviced, because this is pointless in my opinion; even BMW say the service is to change the cabin filter and bleed the brakes.

    • @adriancoelho306
      @adriancoelho306 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The fact that you think bleeding the brakes is unnecessary is troubling.

    • @simonreeves2017
      @simonreeves2017 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@adriancoelho306 Hi Adrian, I do think bleeding the brakes every 2 years is unnecessary. Brake fluid is hygroscopic, meaning it absorbs moisture over time, this can result in ‘spongy’ brakes and corrosion in the brake lines and system. However modern brake systems are not very vulnerable to this, and modern brake fluid is better formulated to resist this. Changing the brake fluid every 5 years is a good idea, but not every 2 years. This is just my opinion based on my 58 years of age, and 40 years maintaining cars.

    • @adriancoelho306
      @adriancoelho306 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@simonreeves2017 and my 58 years and 41 years of car ownership tells me (like the majority of car owners) I'm not interested in getting my hands dirty. I have neither the time, the space or the inclination for it. And, I would rather not wait for strange noises to get things fixed.

  • @jimrandall1739
    @jimrandall1739 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did you calculate the energy cost by using the AC/DC Kwh numnbers on the app, leaving out the regen numbers. Which maybe gave you 6000+ kwh of free energy?

  • @mrmawson2438
    @mrmawson2438 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Cheers guys

  • @intothemultiverse1033
    @intothemultiverse1033 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    How many times have the wind screen wipers wiped?
    Is that intended wipes or unintended wipes? 😂

  • @rickeaston8963
    @rickeaston8963 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    How's the insurance pricing been, compared to ICE of a similar group?

    • @RSEV
      @RSEV  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Previous video: th-cam.com/video/IPnUf5uigvs/w-d-xo.htmlsi=0IMW-h8z1fxImGKR

  • @volcanoclub
    @volcanoclub หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’ve got a 2022 model Y LR that I bought in October last year. It’s interesting to see just how much more efficient it has become as the weather has warmed up. Love the over the air updates (matrix headlights now working as they should). The car has only done 13k miles, so there’s probably not a lot of deg to talk about. Cost of ownership (depreciation notwithstanding) is really excellent. Totally sold on Tesla as a brand and wouldn’t consider moving away to another. It’s great to hear of people who have many hundreds of thousands of miles on their cars without issue. Bodes well for the future!

  • @benw1985
    @benw1985 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good information as going to test drive a 2020 facelift SR+ with 34k miles on the weekend..would you recommend a facelift over the pre facelift?

    • @gkcars6032
      @gkcars6032 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Take the Facelift. Big improvements

  • @darrentaylordigital
    @darrentaylordigital หลายเดือนก่อน +61

    Great job fighting the MASSIVE amount of propaganda here on TH-cam.
    Thanks for informing everyone of the truth!

    • @maxhugen
      @maxhugen หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Propaganda? On what?

    • @darrentaylordigital
      @darrentaylordigital หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@maxhugen there is a lot of anti EV propaganda on TH-cam, with creators with little to no knowledge spouting nonsense. This video is a great debunk on some of the points these propagandists make

    • @jpizel1070
      @jpizel1070 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      💯

    • @thoos192
      @thoos192 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Fanboys call all legitimate critique propaganda, hate and false claims. In fact, most claims you see from the "haters" are true. BEV:s are fire bombs with a big dose of range anxiety added on top. You need to adapt and plan your entire life around your BEV to be able to use it for even the simplest travels. Simply not worth it

    • @darrentaylordigital
      @darrentaylordigital หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thoos192 amazing, a real life example of propaganda in comments. OK, simple question. As a percentage, which type of car catches fire more often? There is a factual answer to this question.
      As a second note. Go to Google, do a search for "car fire", click "news". There are cars right this second on fire on motorways up and down the country. They'll all be ICE.
      As a percentage, 1 in every 41 car fires should be an EV, as 1 of every 41 cars on the road is an EV. Do this exercise often, you'll notice none of these fires are EVs
      Now finally, ask yourself, why do you think EVs catch fire more than ICE cars?
      Answer, because you fell for propaganda. Thanks for playing

  • @callumcurtis15
    @callumcurtis15 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Honestly I'm a little disappointed that the oil pump wasn't under warranty or at least a good will replacement with it not really in my eyes being considered a typical wear and tear item .

    • @RSEV
      @RSEV  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Me too, but ultimately nothing too expensive

  • @julswils890
    @julswils890 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You spoke of 3rd party battery warranty options once the car goes out of the original Tesla warranty. Would anyone have any good examples or recommendations?

  • @davidhancock91
    @davidhancock91 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Looks like it has been very well looked after. How come most of the others fall apart?

  • @Jaw0lf
    @Jaw0lf หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    When we have BEV's that are 15+ years old, they will also have a higher value than any ICE car due to the value of the battery, wether for storage, repairs or recycling. So maybe the end of the sub £1,000 car will arrive?
    Great to hear how well the Tesla has held up as I am looking at the new Highland!

    • @Jonas-gg1yz
      @Jonas-gg1yz หลายเดือนก่อน

      Question - do you have a buyer of used ev-batteries? Otherwise your comment is kind of meaningless. As it stands today an ev with a depleted/non-functioning battery is worth nothing. I currently lease an ev but feel reluctant to buy one.

    • @Jaw0lf
      @Jaw0lf หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Jonas-gg1yz Check out Electric Classic cars on youtube and various other channels show how second hand batteries have a use. Fully charged have also shown a leaf being upgraded with a larger battery. So yes plenty of places want them and a damaged one could be used to repair another. Other people use them for energy storage and even in business for large scale.

    • @richardcorns8553
      @richardcorns8553 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      End of life batteries are not coming back into the market quick enough. Recycling companies are under subscribed at present. In the future when old batteries are available in large enough quantities Recycling will be big business. Why mine for materials if they are already neatly packaged in a battery. For this reason I believe it will be difficult to buy a super cheap used ev as the battery will always have value to it.

    • @Jaw0lf
      @Jaw0lf หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@richardcorns8553 Agreed!

    • @marczakian3511
      @marczakian3511 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ⁠@@Jonas-gg1yz used Tesla motors go for 2,000 on eBay. Battery cells 500 quid each, used battery about 7,000. There is probably about 12k of salvage in a Tesla.

  • @tomb5552
    @tomb5552 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I’ve owned a lot of cars, and I remember when you could expect a new ICE car to last 3 years or 36k miles before major problems.

    • @memecat57
      @memecat57 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My father told me that alot of the really old trucks like 50s era had odometers that only had 5 digits

    • @davidbrayshaw3529
      @davidbrayshaw3529 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      How old are you and what sort of cars do you buy? I'm 53 and I've also owned a lot of cars and most of them have had 5 times that on the odometer before I've got rid of them.
      And in 35 years of driving, the ONLY major failure that I've ever had was a head gasket in an '04 C class Kompressor.

    • @tomb5552
      @tomb5552 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@davidbrayshaw3529 I’m 80 and have owned over dozen cars. My first was a 60 Corvair and now I’m waiting for my Tesla delivery. Plus I drove a Tank in the 60’s.

  • @garyrooksby
    @garyrooksby หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great vid, Richard

  • @peakproofuk
    @peakproofuk หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Really interesting, thorough, nerdy video.

  • @JurassicJungle
    @JurassicJungle หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    My 21 M3 needed the same arms and bushes at 34k miles and £800 I was glad it was covered by Tesla but never had suspension issues so early in a cars life.
    Otherwise all is good.

    • @iambenmitchell
      @iambenmitchell หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Was trying to work out why Tesla would fix your BMW M3 🤦‍♂️

  • @JimT-RCT
    @JimT-RCT หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    0:44 If you do decide to chuck it away, there is some space on my drive 😍

    • @RSEV
      @RSEV  หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂

  • @gerard1153
    @gerard1153 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As you say...Brilliant! I'm going to look for a mileaged variant just like yours. Thank the depreciation and just plain enjoy it for the "performance" and the value ~ As you say - Thank you Mate!!

  • @andapen
    @andapen หลายเดือนก่อน

    Have you ever used the Tessie app? My 23 M3P with 24k showing 3.6% degradation. 305miles new, 297 on dash at 100%

  • @jandejong2430
    @jandejong2430 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I'm more interested in 15 to 20 year old cars with another good 10 or 15 years of life in them..

    • @mugerzane
      @mugerzane 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Ouff can only get that with Toyota

  • @zarodkiewicz
    @zarodkiewicz หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The reg bumps up the value of this car by at least 20% 🤣🤣🤣

  • @ianjames3078
    @ianjames3078 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cracking video yet again Richard. Talking of warranty why do you think my M3 LR RWD battery has the same warranty as the LFP rather than the LR DM or Performance?

    • @johnmckay1423
      @johnmckay1423 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      My guess is they front load it. When we had our 2020 M3P*, list price was £10k more than the long range and that was about £10k more than the SR+ (before LFP batteries were released). Pay off it was the pricing model, i.e. the highest they could get away with, but last of it is to take account of how much Tesla expected to pay in warranty costs through differing use.
      *Bizarre leasing costs: the P was less/month than the LR and only £15/month more than the SR+ and I couldn't resist. I wouldn't have paid £20k for the speed and big wheels though...

  • @Jonas-gg1yz
    @Jonas-gg1yz หลายเดือนก่อน

    A question! A thought I have is how second hand buyers will react as time goes by? Depreciationwise I think that there will be a poont where it could be difficult to sell a used ev due to the cost of replacing the battery. With a petrol engine there is the possibility of getting a cheap used one but with an ev your only option (as far as I know) is to buy a new battery - probably at a cost way superseeding what the car is worth?
    I am currently leasing an ev but I'm not sure I'd be willing to buy one.

    • @benellis7427
      @benellis7427 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Degradation doesn’t happen overnight so it will likely not quickly decline even multiple owners later. I think your concern is having a cell or two go bad which is repairable and doesn’t require a whole pack usually.

  • @steveyoung8376
    @steveyoung8376 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    well done richard for fighting for the EV 's!!!!

  • @ben7413
    @ben7413 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Hi have a 2020 M3LR and its had its problems. Paint came off the whole car. Needed repainting 3 times. Charge port door needed replacing, charge port cable needed replacing, paint came off bonnet again, new door handle and new check straps. However i still love driving the car. all the issues fixed under warranty and in a timely manner. Im definitely ordering a highland ludicrous when they are released. Just thought i should point out all manufacturers have there issues. I obviously just got a car built on a Friday afternoon.

  • @chargeheadsuk
    @chargeheadsuk หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Mine is 2k off 100k going to do a similar vid soon. Great vid 👍👍

  • @paulbi2008
    @paulbi2008 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video, thanks for putting it all together for us. Great car as well....I'm now seriously tempted by the new 2024 Model 3 performance!

  • @nicolasmontule4022
    @nicolasmontule4022 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    EV haters wont like this video...

    • @swingbag12
      @swingbag12 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don’t think there is “ev haters” I just think ev’s don’t work for everyone. Me included

    • @jacobheinz8236
      @jacobheinz8236 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      It’s hard for people to be called out especially those whom have been misled by frantic media negativity. Mass hysteria sells papers as they say. There’s comfort in being part of a majority, even tho the majority is later found to be wrong. Just blame anyone and anything, it’s much easier in life as a coping mechanism- it’s harder to be responsible for yourself and lack of ability to think and evaluate new challenges. To have to think can be a painful experience, it’s much easier to latch on to thinking done by others.
      Whether it’s EVs or Hydrogen cells or anything other than petrol/gas or diesel, most of us will not accept it, even at the cost of destroying planet earth. Climate warming? What’s that?

    • @Trust_but_Verify
      @Trust_but_Verify 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@swingbag12 Plenty of EV haters out there. They basically lists all the faults an EV might have, and none of the good qualities of EV, while how certain ICE features are better, and none of the ICE problems. These people never sat/drove EV before.

  • @paulfisher5501
    @paulfisher5501 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Sounds OK for me, perhaps there is some hearing aid battery degradation going on.

  • @unomilan
    @unomilan หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Really interesting as always. Thank you. One thing. Can you provide more info on remote battery testing. I would like to get that done on my model 3. Thanks again.

    • @_beccaszn
      @_beccaszn หลายเดือนก่อน

      When did you get your model 3?

    • @RSEV
      @RSEV  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can do a self test via the service menu. Couple of TH-cam guides out there. Warning through, start it with as low to 0% as you can because it spends ages draining battery and then has to do a full charge.
      Or have it remotely done - ask Cleevely EV

  • @EddieGriffith2802
    @EddieGriffith2802 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have a 69 plate Model 3 Performance too (also white with black interior). I've only done 15,000 miles in mine up to now though! It's also been as good as gold. Still on its original tyres with quite a bit of meat left on them. 21% DC to AC charging ratio. Try to look after the battery as best I can. For general day to day use only usually charge it up to 65% and then plug it in when it drops below 30%. Obviously will go to 100% on the odd occasion I start a long journey and then run it down low before supercharging it. The only attention it's needed is for a broken granny charger, passenger door panel realignment, rubber boot seal replacement and carbon fibre spoiler replacement all of which were rectified under warranty. Fully intend to keep it long term.

  • @Wilkooo
    @Wilkooo หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great car! I've had mine for over 4 years now and driven more than 135000km (approximately 83,885 miles). This generation still has the low regen mode, which makes this car feel more relaxed to drive in traffic compared to the newer models without it. You don't sacrifice much efficiency, but it coasts much better. I do an alignment every year, and I'm running KW suspension, and have kept repair costs under €500. Still on my second set of Michelin tires (35000km+) and with only two winter tires needing replacement on my winterset over this period of time.

  • @antoinepageau8336
    @antoinepageau8336 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    According to Jeff Dahn, supercharging Lithium batteries doesn't affect their longevity. Charging above 70% and keeping them below 20% SOC is what causes damage.

    • @douglaswatt1582
      @douglaswatt1582 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not quite what Jeff said. In cold weather you don't want to let it go below 15% and in hot weather you don't want to store it above 75%. But charging above 75% is fine as long as you're going to drive immediately and then the car is not going to be stored above 75%. This become particularly critical in warm weather.

  • @bsaxman2012
    @bsaxman2012 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very good and interesting video. I have a 2023 Model Y LR (Austin, TX-built) and hope it does as well. I drove it from Dallas, TX to Colorado Rocky Mountains to Yellowstone Wyoming last summer (about 3,200 miles round trip) and the car did great.

  • @Knott1701
    @Knott1701 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've not heard of or seen any 3rd party Tesla battery replacement companies in the UK, might be worth a visit for future contet?

  • @roberts.wilson1848
    @roberts.wilson1848 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Don;t compare a model 3 performance to some weak ass diesel/petrol econobox....Compare it with a BMW M3 or whatever other similar size sport sedan) that has 500hp. And do the calculations there, including range.
    And don't calculate just the long trips, because those are once or twice per year, most of the time, the cars are used in heavy congested city driving, and that is where the m3p shines while the combustion cars will suck.

  • @nottmfunguy
    @nottmfunguy หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    So why are second dealers not wanting EV's? you don't answer what you said you would. Range is still crap and deprecation is a nightmare.

    • @RSEV
      @RSEV  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Range is great, depreciation in line with most other similar cars, and I love stocking EVs. Doing very well out of it. Their loss, my gain 🤷‍♂️

    • @lumicolour1
      @lumicolour1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      £500 fossil car anyone?

  • @yaseenahmed7320
    @yaseenahmed7320 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love you videos absolutely amazing data. I would appreciate it if at the end if the video you could display all the data in one sheet so we can pause the video and take a closer look.

  • @dizzyspells6403
    @dizzyspells6403 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great vid!